Vikings sitting pretty with Darnold as starter for another one or two years (tagged or short term deal) and see how JJ develops. They can do whatever they want afterwards. No point letting go of either one yet.
Dam it hard to be a nfl fan… somebody needs to tell Murray that only Cheech Martin in “Up in smoke” is the only one that can pull off the krofttop tang top! 🤦🏻♂️
I am a Raiders fan but AP has to coach to win and the players have to play to win even though I wanted a top 3 pick. If you would have said last year we could have one of the QBs in the first round and Bowers I would have been happy.
As a fan who hoped we'd lose the remainder of our games, I was under no delusion that any professional coach (AP) or players would lose games on purpose. I love being part of Raider Nation, but we're delusional as a fanbase as the Raiders are dysfunctional as a franchise. Make it make sense. I trust Telesco to pull another Brock Bowers and JPJ out of his hat this upcoming draft with the best player(s) available.
I just hope he does better in free agency and actually fill in holes and not just sign one of the biggest names and think it’s a win while letting some of our top talent walk out the door.
@ although he overpaid, the one name is the issue. His other signings were either bad or meh. Then you get to who he didn’t resign. He has to learn that free agency isn’t just about the big names.
@xguudaxcoax4560 I don't think we lost much or gained much during FA. I like some of the depth we added to our DL. Overpaid or not, Wilkins was much needed to help take pressure off of Maxx. Choosing Minshew over Russ or Fields is a head scratcher. I understand Penix was the target in the draft, and we missed out, but I'd been willing to make a play for Russ because 1) he's a proven winner 2) he could be a bridge QB for us a d 3) the Donks would still be taking the brunt of thar ridiculous contract. Either way, we'll just have to wait and see what unfolds.
@ I agree with that. Should of opted for a better vet QB. I was okay with the draft, it’s just important to keep certain pieces like DL depth and homegrown talent.
@@justinshively9530 Eli gets in b/c the writers love his surname, but in reality he was an below average long term starter and the Int king of his era... Plunkett came off the bench twice, there is a reason for that. Both are no legit HoFers.
Swap firsts and throw in our second for JJ. He’d be the #1 pick this year and he’s super young. Use our two thirds to get a RB and WR. Sign the best RT in free agency. Bring back our own, bring back AP with an actual qb. Keep Aidan to compete w JJ. Let’s roll. We aren’t out any future draft capital and we have our franchise qb on a rookie contract. Davante is in tears hahahahah.
Raiders fan that like losing...turn in your "Just Win Baby" card. Fine a new team. As far as the draft best player available. Roll withe Adain and deal for now.
Thank you. Tanking is not an actual thing, teams either suck or don't. So the Raiders steing together some wins finally and Raider fans are pissed. Irratates me.
@@theroachden6195 Yes it sure does, they'd be upset if they were in three Super bowls in a row and losing one. Losing for what an unproven rookie qb? What?
@@xguudaxcoax4560 Hate to be cruel to the other side of Raiders fans but grow up (them) I watched the last SB win and have been frustrated ever since. I'll enjoy every win.
The Vikings aren’t dealing JJ because Darnold had one good season finally. JJ is the future, and he’s a much better prospect than Kyler anyways. Tall, fast, canon arm, mature, non video game player. Also, guys like Gardner are ideal backup QBs but not starters. A guy that you hope can win 2 of 4 if the starter has to miss some.
@ he does not have a stronger arm lmao. Have you watched them both throw? JJ would be having as good or a better year if not for the injury. Sam wasn’t starting before the injury. Sam needs to prove more for longer otherwise this will be a Dan Jones all over again.
Tell the players that work there butts off all year and have lost almost every week that they should just throw these games away to get better players. Not me losing is for losers and there is no such thing as a shure fire draft pick as many will be bust as superstars. Cam Ward is the only QB in this class that should even be considered in rd 1.
🤢🤮 he'll no might as well start AOC if that's the plan. We can't settle for mediocrity in this division. We have to find the right combination of QB coach
@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om he's thrown touchdowns when up or to go up. You just keep over compensating though. I'm not a Williams fan, but he may turn out to be a good NFL Quarterback. I hate to say it, but better than Fields.
@@chrissinclair4442 no better than Fields. All receivers had better efficiency with Fields. The OL ranked a respactable 14th per PFN, but CW was next to last in the all important efficiency rating (yards per pass play that is). The eye test and sidearm delivery did the rest... He will bust. No doubt about it since his April antics.
We have our QB, but people refuse to admit because he isn't a losing running QB, I think He is hated for same reason as Carr, personal attacks and bashing, because they are Christians.
Ward and Sanders are only spoken about kn round cuz this class is so weak at qb. Last year both of those guys would have been very kate round 1 or round 2 guys. Rodgers is cooked. Beyond even his current ability at his age why would any team wanna bring him anyway? His attitude sucks. Hes a coach, coordiator and general manager and killer. You'd have to be stupid to sign him now.
if i were the Raiders, Id tank this upcoming season and grab a QB in next years draft, not this years. Better QBs will be available, build up the trenches this year.
@@Godaboveall24_7 Yeah I know, i feel for you guys, you guys have been screwed since Gruden was forced out but I still contend the smart course of action would be to wait until you're certain with the QB instead of wasting the pick just because you need a QB. I mean if you do come up with one in this draft that you guys love, great but if next year is better in that category, then it's worth being bad for another year so you get a franchise guy thatll last you 15.
Only losers are complaining about the fact the team won. The fact they are complaining shows 2 things 1. They never played any type of sports and have no pride. 2. The fans want to tank and the Players are pros and they get paid to win. Plus it's illegal for them to take a dive.
No, it is NOT illegal to tank because tanking is a rule, not a law. That's laughable. I was playing sports long before you were born, and I think what the Raiders are doing is idiotic. And get out of here with that professional stuff. A great many of them these days are pros only in the sense they are paid to play. Too many do not behave like professionals. If you think they're all out there giving it their all very game for "pride," and you can sit here with a straight face and say you've never seen players or entire teams quit then I will question how much sports you've actually played.
@@MarkMay-cr6bvdon’t care how long you’ve been a fan, as a Raiders fan we don’t support tanking so you can move along. I don’t care what teams do what, to lose on purpose for something not promised is truly idiotic and moral less. RN4L
Raider fans pissed off that they're winning games because it messes up the draft postion are fuckin dumb. But JJ will sit behind Darnold one more year and develop because he's been injured. That would be best for him and the Vikings.
Geno Smith is one of those QBs who looks better on paper than he actually does live. If I'm the Raiders, I'm going for Aaron Rodgers on a one-year plan.
Too bad, The Raiders are just too clueless to have anything work out for them. Ive been a fan my whole life but i think the Democrats are 10 times more organized than this franchise
Thanks for Watching!
I am expecting the Vikings to keep McCarthy and re sign Darnold
The only way they think about trading JJ is if it's for a 1st round pick maybe more
@@Forestwidow maybe they can fool the browns for a haul like the texans did
@@Forestwidowyou could almost certainly get one this year with the garbage QB class
Vikings sitting pretty with Darnold as starter for another one or two years (tagged or short term deal) and see how JJ develops. They can do whatever they want afterwards. No point letting go of either one yet.
"Kyler or J.J"
Neither
Jaxson Dart to the Raiders.
Yes
I had to go to the internet immediately to see if that halter top photo was real. Wow man sucks 2 B a Cardinal fan right now
Haha, me too... Those overpaid clowns are something else, but certainly no legit NFL QBs (Caleb Williams being the other).
With Kyler Murray you already know what's not, at least with JJ you still have expectations!!
Winning those two games was the best thing they could’ve done. Saved them from having to draft either one of those mediocre qb’s
Facts!!!!!
Problem is having the 1st pick impacts every round of the draft. Those wins cost us higher draft picks in each round. Gotta think outside the box
@@BlackHoleVet✅
@@BlackHoleVet we picked up three starters with our first three picks. Picks 13. 44, and 77.
Those QBs won't get drafted in the 1st round. Watch.
Dam it hard to be a nfl fan… somebody needs to tell Murray that only Cheech Martin in “Up in smoke” is the only one that can pull off the krofttop tang top! 🤦🏻♂️
Tang.... yes it is tangy. Leave it😅
No no Kyler
The people saying the vikings will trade Mccarthy are the same ones saying the vikings would trade Jefferson.... how'd that work out?!
Idk why people think the Vikings would trade out a rookie QB on a rookie contract until after his contract is about to expire 😅
So where's your big insight? Mocking people when you got nothing is not smart.
I'll take JJ McCarthy every day of the week All year long
Get another wr and OL and Aidan will be fine, plus still on a rookie contract frees up funds to build the team
Any "fan" that rooted for the tank is not a real fan. They are delusional.
The Raiders can’t even lose correctly. The Raiders are cursed.
There's no such thing as sports curses. Only incompetent owners and perpetually-mismanaged teams.
MD iz don't know what he's doing
JJ tore his meniscus. It wasn’t an ACL.
Stay in your own lane, like the WNBA.😂
That's a sweet bra Kyler is wearing. 😂 What a beta
I am a Raiders fan but AP has to coach to win and the players have to play to win even though I wanted a top 3 pick. If you would have said last year we could have one of the QBs in the first round and Bowers I would have been happy.
Kyler lookin zesty
Always. smh
Watching the NFL is just like watching college football
The raiders will do 2 things.Keep the drama going and do something stupid
No to Kyler
Raider fan here. I really want to get McCarthy. Wanted him last year too. I'd give up a 1st and 2nd (or 2-3rd's which they have).
You'd give up that much for an unproven injured QB? You're fired.
I remember watching him play in that pre season game and I was thoroughly impressed. He was borderline electric.
The Vikings have to re sign Darnold but if the price is right JJ will be gone.
As a fan who hoped we'd lose the remainder of our games, I was under no delusion that any professional coach (AP) or players would lose games on purpose.
I love being part of Raider Nation, but we're delusional as a fanbase as the Raiders are dysfunctional as a franchise. Make it make sense.
I trust Telesco to pull another Brock Bowers and JPJ out of his hat this upcoming draft with the best player(s) available.
I just hope he does better in free agency and actually fill in holes and not just sign one of the biggest names and think it’s a win while letting some of our top talent walk out the door.
@xguudaxcoax4560 Christian Wilkins was a great acquisition. Otherwise, I agree.
@ although he overpaid, the one name is the issue. His other signings were either bad or meh. Then you get to who he didn’t resign. He has to learn that free agency isn’t just about the big names.
@xguudaxcoax4560 I don't think we lost much or gained much during FA. I like some of the depth we added to our DL. Overpaid or not, Wilkins was much needed to help take pressure off of Maxx. Choosing Minshew over Russ or Fields is a head scratcher. I understand Penix was the target in the draft, and we missed out, but I'd been willing to make a play for Russ because 1) he's a proven winner 2) he could be a bridge QB for us a d 3) the Donks would still be taking the brunt of thar ridiculous contract. Either way, we'll just have to wait and see what unfolds.
@ I agree with that. Should of opted for a better vet QB. I was okay with the draft, it’s just important to keep certain pieces like DL depth and homegrown talent.
How about my 'Birds "Mormon Missle"?
Nope Seattle isn’t trading Geno
Why would anybody want Gino Smith?
Draft Jaxson Dart! Literally having a non injured JJ and we don’t need to give up a first and pick him up as high as our second.
Jj McCarthy all day. Yhe last yhing we need next year is an old veteran stop gap QB. JJ McCarthy or draft one.
Need to hire Todd Monken Baltimore OC as HC. And get a duel threat qb in the second round like Jaxon Dart
What did "dual threat" "QBs" ever win (outside of legion of boom + Lynch backed Wilson)? Exactly.
Poor JJ, Jim Plunkett didn't get into HOF because he was a raider.
He wasn’t a hall of fame QB
@deacongowan117 He won two super bowls, pretty sure Eli will get in before Plunkett for doing the same thing.
@@justinshively9530 Eli gets in b/c the writers love his surname, but in reality he was an below average long term starter and the Int king of his era... Plunkett came off the bench twice, there is a reason for that.
Both are no legit HoFers.
I'm a Raider fan, and those who wanna tank are delusional..the QB class sucks this year..our motto is just win
.not just lose..FO
Swap firsts and throw in our second for JJ. He’d be the #1 pick this year and he’s super young. Use our two thirds to get a RB and WR. Sign the best RT in free agency. Bring back our own, bring back AP with an actual qb. Keep Aidan to compete w JJ. Let’s roll. We aren’t out any future draft capital and we have our franchise qb on a rookie contract. Davante is in tears hahahahah.
JJ
Raiders fan that like losing...turn in your "Just Win Baby" card. Fine a new team. As far as the draft best player available. Roll withe Adain and deal for now.
Thank you. Tanking is not an actual thing, teams either suck or don't. So the Raiders steing together some wins finally and Raider fans are pissed. Irratates me.
@@theroachden6195 Yes it sure does, they'd be upset if they were in three Super bowls in a row and losing one. Losing for what an unproven rookie qb? What?
Exactly. Tired of BS narratives supporting tanking.
@@xguudaxcoax4560 Hate to be cruel to the other side of Raiders fans but grow up (them) I watched the last SB win and have been frustrated ever since. I'll enjoy every win.
*find 😂
LaJoke
Pierce is a good coach he needs a qb
Pierce is trash
He’s the worst coach in the league
The Vikings aren’t dealing JJ because Darnold had one good season finally.
JJ is the future, and he’s a much better prospect than Kyler anyways. Tall, fast, canon arm, mature, non video game player.
Also, guys like Gardner are ideal backup QBs but not starters. A guy that you hope can win 2 of 4 if the starter has to miss some.
Darnold will win a super bowl in Minnesota. He's got a stronger arm and more accurate than McCarthy and he can actually read defenses.
@ he does not have a stronger arm lmao. Have you watched them both throw? JJ would be having as good or a better year if not for the injury. Sam wasn’t starting before the injury.
Sam needs to prove more for longer otherwise this will be a Dan Jones all over again.
Tell the players that work there butts off all year and have lost almost every week that they should just throw these games away to get better players. Not me losing is for losers and there is no such thing as a shure fire draft pick as many will be bust as superstars. Cam Ward is the only QB in this class that should even be considered in rd 1.
Geno Smith aint the answer. We need a young QB to lead us into the future. Just keep AOC and if you can not get JJ draft Dart or someone in rd 2 or 3.
I been a life long Raider Fan , they're only hope is Mark Davis sell the team. He's no AL JS
I’m trolling, but Rhodes here tried to say Jordan was more important than Magic and Bird. Ah yeah I’m trolling…
JJ is not for sale
Get JJ
Hire Gruden back !
Grudens offense is tooo predictable
Sheepdip Sanders, Colo, looks to be useless as a NFL QB.......another Cabal Williams...all hype
Milroe, Ala, also looks totally useless.
All right man I like you. But the woke NFL. I do not like them. So thumbs down to them. And thumbs up to you.😊
raiders want McCarthy we want 3 full drafts 1-7 3 straight years
Lol not happening, you can keep him.
Daniel Jones under Tom Brady's tutelage will destroy in the NFL
Bring back Derek Carr
If the Saints make him available he would be the top QB on the market.
🤢🤮 he'll no might as well start AOC if that's the plan. We can't settle for mediocrity in this division. We have to find the right combination of QB coach
Williams can throw some touchdowns. He may be the real deal.
Yeah, in trash time when they're down by 3 touchdowns.😂
@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om he's thrown touchdowns when up or to go up. You just keep over compensating though. I'm not a Williams fan, but he may turn out to be a good NFL Quarterback. I hate to say it, but better than Fields.
@@chrissinclair4442 no better than Fields. All receivers had better efficiency with Fields. The OL ranked a respactable 14th per PFN, but CW was next to last in the all important efficiency rating (yards per pass play that is). The eye test and sidearm delivery did the rest... He will bust. No doubt about it since his April antics.
Geno Smith = Jameis Winston; no thanks - At least Smith isn't an A##
WHAT
We have our QB, but people refuse to admit because he isn't a losing running QB, I think He is hated for same reason as Carr, personal attacks and bashing, because they are Christians.
They need to bring Jimmy G back
Ward and Sanders are only spoken about kn round cuz this class is so weak at qb.
Last year both of those guys would have been very kate round 1 or round 2 guys.
Rodgers is cooked. Beyond even his current ability at his age why would any team wanna bring him anyway? His attitude sucks. Hes a coach, coordiator and general manager and killer. You'd have to be stupid to sign him now.
So every black coach gets ripped apart here
If they’re terrible like Pierce is. Why are you people so fascinated with color?
If they’re terrible
Go cry into your pillow.😂
6'5 or taller please
if i were the Raiders, Id tank this upcoming season and grab a QB in next years draft, not this years. Better QBs will be available, build up the trenches this year.
Raider fans will not take ANOTHER tank year. Heads would roll
@@Godaboveall24_7 Yeah I know, i feel for you guys, you guys have been screwed since Gruden was forced out but I still contend the smart course of action would be to wait until you're certain with the QB instead of wasting the pick just because you need a QB. I mean if you do come up with one in this draft that you guys love, great but if next year is better in that category, then it's worth being bad for another year so you get a franchise guy thatll last you 15.
Kyler with this offense would be sick but we need to hit on a new offensive HC or hit on a good OC
Kyler would be good with the Raiders. He has just though weapons at TE and WR to help. Only need a solid RB to carry the work load.
IF I WAS THE JETS HE WOULD HAVE THE JOB ALREADY
Only losers are complaining about the fact the team won. The fact they are complaining shows 2 things 1. They never played any type of sports and have no pride. 2. The fans want to tank and the Players are pros and they get paid to win. Plus it's illegal for them to take a dive.
No, it is NOT illegal to tank because tanking is a rule, not a law. That's laughable. I was playing sports long before you were born, and I think what the Raiders are doing is idiotic. And get out of here with that professional stuff. A great many of them these days are pros only in the sense they are paid to play. Too many do not behave like professionals. If you think they're all out there giving it their all very game for "pride," and you can sit here with a straight face and say you've never seen players or entire teams quit then I will question how much sports you've actually played.
I'm a Raiders fan of 50 years and the fans wanting to tank are pathetic.
@@MarkMay-cr6bvdon’t care how long you’ve been a fan, as a Raiders fan we don’t support tanking so you can move along. I don’t care what teams do what, to lose on purpose for something not promised is truly idiotic and moral less. RN4L
Dude the fact is you don’t know the facts. The fact don’t make me L😆L bullet point your facts up your a..
@@raygotammo9939. Agreed id rather trade 3 firsts to get a guy we like. Most of our first rd picks suck anyways hahahaha.
Raider fans pissed off that they're winning games because it messes up the draft postion are fuckin dumb.
But JJ will sit behind Darnold one more year and develop because he's been injured. That would be best for him and the Vikings.
Geno Smith is one of those QBs who looks better on paper than he actually does live. If I'm the Raiders, I'm going for Aaron Rodgers on a one-year plan.
Why is the guy wearing a bra?
IT'S NOT ALL HIS FAULT
I would take Kyle Murray & keep OC ,Bradley from .Bradley hasn't played to show what he has to offer the Raiders
Geno suck
Too bad, The Raiders are just too clueless to have anything work out for them. Ive been a fan my whole life but i think the Democrats are 10 times more organized than this franchise
We dont what Kyler or JJ