*The "Kyle is Wrong!" FAQ* Hey! Thanks for watching. The vlog this week doesn't cover this video, so here are some answers to your corrections: 1. I am of course aware that blind individuals can navigate the world and live normal lives! But I think you'd have a hard time arguing that their experience is a "superpowered" one, as we understand it. 2. Many people are misunderstanding my proprioception argument. I believe that we underestimate just how much visual information adds to our "movement sense." Knowing how to grasp objects, walk among obstacles, etc. (think of how hard it would be if you couldn't see where your body was) involves visual cues you don't even notice. 3. Yes, you can type without looking at your fingers, but that's not what I said. Without being able to FEEL where your fingers are -- with proprioception -- you would have to look at them. 4. The WHOLE POINT isn't that invisibility is impossible or impossible to live with, the point is that it has enough drawbacks that I wouldn't consider many versions of it "super," in that it wouldn't make you a superhero in the way you think. -- KH
As per my comments earlier, I had made an experiment to prove that point 2 is not so much of a drawback. In the video, you ask us to imagine how to interact object with zero visual input. As a matter of fact, we don't have to imagine, we can replicate that process in VR. In case you miss my comments, here are my experiments. I recreated an identical room in the virtual world based on a physical room. Every object is also replicated in that room. The only thing that is missing in the virtual world, is your own body. I can easily grab anything with no problem. The longer I am in it, the more comfortable it becomes. Do note that, the difference between the physical and virtual world is around 2-3cm. A wall that is supposed to be 10cm away in the real world could be 7-13cm in the virtual world. Even with this layer of error, I still have no problem navigating. I do have other subjects on the experiment and it takes them a short moment to adjust to it. Now imagine having this power since birth, you will adapt to it like learning how to walk.
Points 1-4 make perfect sense, Kyle. These drawbacks hardly make for a "super" ability at all. That's why, as I previously commented, the only method/means of invisibility to others that makes sense is a phase-shift out of our 3 dimensional space where you can still walk around and see and hear everything, but perhaps not interact with it (much, if at all). Frodo and Bilbo's Ring of Power; Phase shifting a la the later Stargate SG-1 episodes with Merlin's workshop- out of phase and invisible to the rest of us, but technically "still there".
I am SOOOO glad someone answered the 'are you blind if invisible' question. I just thought about this the other week because I almost read the Invisible Man, and it has been bugging me ever since for the first time in my ENTIRE life, and now, this video.
Honestly, being a floating pair of glowing eyes sounds fine. It's small enough to make most people think they're just seeing things but just big enough to creep the shit out of someone.
interestingly, in the invisible man novel, the invisible man says that the cat he turned invisible still had visible retinas, as the invis juice didn't bleach them clean
The story of an spy who retires after being blinded, goes through an intensive training regimen to use echolocation and the natural sounds around him, and then is chosen to be an invisible superhero is fantastic and I now need it in my life.
@@HassanAhmed-rf9xr if you're invisible it means every part of you is invisible, even to yourself, can't see your hands, feet or any body part, that includes your eye lids.
It’s already been proven. We see about 120 FPS. It’s capped at something otherwise we would be able to see tires spinning and helicopter blades spinning more clearly.
Please keep in mind that this video refers to classic invisibility. With the exception of the 'no spatial awareness' rule and the thermal imaging mentioned in this video, projecting photons that are on either side of oneself could easily combat that whole 'unable to see' argument. Although he's right, you still wouldn't be able to rob banks/ steal anything because a floating bag of cash or a Chanel handbag would be a dead giveaway. The most you could do with this would be to avoid social interaction. Which in my opinion is sooo fucking worth it.
If people can hear you breathing, there is something wrong. Even if that were the case, you'd be the ultimate prankster. That also sounds like a win in my book.
As any serious nerd can tell you, there are far easier ways to become invisible socially. Just pull out a Magic the Gathering deck, and nobody will acknowledge your presence in any way.
Proposition; What if we made a nano fiber optic mesh that collects photons and sends them from about the same location from any angle. Routing the light around you? You could place magnetic coils around the fibers to collect data from the sympathetic charge and make a 360° line of sight. The thermal energy of your body could be regulated and the excess heat could be filtered through a cascade lens making random wave lengths of light. that light could then be used to boost the output light so there is no preceivable heat or dimming. Only a randomly oscillating polarization lens would be able to see the shimmer of light at the wrong angle.
Thor's just making videos to discredit all the other superheroes so that he can prove he's the best. Up next: Why You Don't Want To Turn Into An Angry Green Monster
Yeah I like the "invisibility" where it's you just cropping yourself out from people perceptions and they just subconsciously ignore you. Like you walk up and take a coffee and the world fills in that someone bought it in everyone's head that sees the coffee disappear, but there would still be a physical record of it being stolen
He needs sounds to see so he needs to make TOO much sound if he wants to be able to see himself and you can't sneak into anywhere if there is a someone because free sound you make wakes up everyone
That’s what they say if you had a “permeation quirk” (passing through solid objects). In MHA they explained that you couldn’t see, breathe or hear when that power was activated. I’d love to see that power explored in a future video
@@twistedyogertwhich is a move that the character with the Permeation quirk uses in combat. Sinking into the ground and then popping up to strike his opponents.
I like how the vampires from World of Darkness utilize invisibility. That's because they don't turn invisible. Instead, they influence the minds of people around them to not notice them and to make them rationalise why they shouldn't bump into you. Of course, there are plenty of creatures who are immune or highly resistant to this, but that makes the power a lot more interesting IMO.
Similar to the SEP Field in Douglas Adams’ “Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy” series. Basically, it’s a device that creates a field around an object rendering it “somebody else’s problem.” It’s not that the spaceship on the cricket pitch can’t be seen, it’s that anyone who sees it subconsciously tells themselves “How odd, I’m glad that isn’t my concern,” and they happily ignore it.
Sith and Jedi can do this too. Basically mind trick the person into not perceiving them. The cool thing about this power vs Sue storm invisibility is that it can apply to sounds or objects or even other people. Arguably it's more imperceptibility than invisibility though.
Have you read The Physics of Superheroes by James Kakalios? I’ll quote then explain it as I understand. Chapter 23, section What Color are Invisible Woman’s Eyes? “When [she] becomes invisible, she still absorbs and reflects light in the UV region of the spectrum... Special UV glasses (like the ones Doctor Doom installed in his armored mask) could [shift her visible].” “This also explains how IW is able to see. ... her eyes... become sensitive to the scattered UV light that bounces off us, and is ignored by our eyes. ... Windows appear transparent to us... However, when Sue is invisible a window will appear as a dark space while other objects appear transparent to her. This mechanism... was suggested in Fantastic Four #62, vol.3.” Basically, if you can shift your entire body up the color spectrum, your vision shifts with it. If you shift above UltraViolet (hey, that’s why the Incredibles daughter is named that!), you can see people and objects by their bounced UV rays, likely the same way we can see Cinderella’s glass slippers by the slight bounced colors we can see. Also, she can see herself because her pupils shifted up to match her body. Edit: Question. If infrared reads body temperature, but Sue shifted all her bodily color to be in the UV spectrum INCLUDING her IR, what will that mean for both her bodily temperature and what the IR camera sees?
Dubzy FTW I quoted a book. Then gave a layman interpretation. If you really want to hear how researched-smart I can be, I have a video on my channel disproving ALL of MatPat’s Film Theories on Frozen, using only canon lore/interviews and real life subjects MatPat found acceptable for other theories.
Actually, having power of invisibility with blindness as a drawback could make for an interesting story. Imagine, a man who you can't see and he cannot see you, yet he remembers every smell, every sound, every touch, etc.
@@tamatebako_yt ... It's not supposed to be fun for the person being watched. Ideally, the person being watched wouldn't know their being watched. That said, it's still fucked up, I just think your argument is bad.
@@ianwalker1182 Well, the way it likely works on regular humans is with some kind of magnetism or radio-wave-like ability that makes peoples eyes inherently avoid you and your brain avoid perception, these radio waves could disrupt cctv signal, and magnetism would break the camera/footage.
well you can have invisibility by hoping in the 4d and you probobly could just see the inside of anything boxs animals and more or you will just freeze to death
One cool thing about the original Predator movie (I don't remember if they do this in the sequels) is his eyes will occasionally flash yellow while he was invisible. I always interpreted this as his suit taking a picture of his surroundings and using it to make a 3d space for him to navigate. Just a personal headcanon of mine.
Here's my solution to 'most' of the problems. The way my brand invisibility works is that photons with a frequency below ultraviolet pass through your body, but your eyes are mutated to only see ultraviolet light instead of visible. So you can see yourself since you absorb ultraviolet, and your invisibe to half the EM spectrum.
Interesting hero, would this result in the side effect of being more vulnerable to UV, if so that could make things interesting with a hero who fights at night, not because of the aesthetic, but because being invisible in broad daylight will give sun burn and risk cancer.
Fun fact: I actually have invisibility already. I have to say, it sucks being invisible. Being ignored 24/7 sure does suck Edit: Chill everyone just regular dark humor joke 😂
I once bought a new pair of shoes that had oddly shaped and wide soles, kept tripping on stuff because I wasn't used to moving my feet in them. So I could see how this would apply. It would be like trying to grab a glass of water while wearing a blinder (like the ones used on horses) on one side. Tactile maneuvering only. Most people never consider these things. This is why I love this channel.
What if instead of turning yourself invisible, you could just turn off people's perception of you. It's less invisibility and more psychic pushing, but I feel like that could be better (as long as you can turn it on and off)
I'm amazed by how close your presentation skills come to that scary "over-the-top" range without actually stepping over the last hair-thin boundary. Just hovering inside the "keepin' it real, but with humour" range. Nice. Also, I appreciate that the science you quote generally appears well researched and there's nothing that looks amped, skewed or outright messed up. Finally, being able to watch an entire video through WITHOUT seeing a single typo, spelling gaffe or otherwise annoying punctuation or grammar screw-up is not only a relief, but now stands out as something peculiarly unique in the world of RUclips and elsewhere. And again, much appreciated!
Besides, when you're trying to see, only your pupils need to be visible. Good luck to whoever's trying to spot a pair of tiny black dots that flicker out of existance when they get close to looking directly into them... especially at night.
Taco Cat I didn't say I'd be in public (in the event of a home invasion I'd appreciate being able to hide in plainsite). Also, you don't have to be naked if your source of invisibility (and temporary blindness) comes in the form of a cloak that you wear and can be taken off
I’d want time control. It’s invisibility but better. Stopping time you can do anything you could while invisible but you can return where you where without people noticing you moved.
I believe most interpretations take into account that snow and water can play an effect and give you away, its how in some shows/movies they track someone invisible. As far as being naked, most shows/movies tend to go over this as well, and design special suits that can allow them to go invisible and the special clothing turns invisible as well.
Or you know, you can simply decide that worn and held items also turn invisible, since you're the writer, and can decide the power works however you want it to.
Has he made one of these about shape-shifting? I'm talking something like Alex Mercer from the game PROTOTYPE. Grow armor, claws, blades, whips, hammer fists, etc. Even the ability to fly/glide by growing wings or just turning into something that has wings, whether it be a bird or something mythicalogical like a dragon. Would the power of shape-shifting do something to the human mind?
The mind will most likely be fine as octopus and cuttlefish have amazing camouflage that can mimic surface textures to hide in sand corral or rock...... Or are octopus and cuttlefish secretly insane....
Exactly he just explained how Proprioception works and it has nothing to do with being able to see one's body Sure it could probably be annoying at times but I still don't look at my feet when I walk on stairs so why would I suddenly not be able to walk on stairs?
Anduril came here to say this. Blind people manage all the time. Not to mention how your senses don't descend into chaos if you have to navigate a dark bedroom or get soap in your eyes.
It wouldn't be a huge problem, but I imagine reaching for a glass or trying to catch a ball would be a bit more difficult without visual stimulus. Of course we could test this by placing your arm under a board and reaching for a glass - see how hard it is.
Answer to problem: buy a magical invisibility cloak. Or inherit it from your long family line were your many great grandpa got one from building a bridge to cheat death. Simple.
@@luciussalcedo3731 Why can't you be seen then,? Since we can change skins to make anything be anything, i think we don't even have features like eyes. We just .. see?
Perhaps having your consciousness/soul on another level renders you invisible to those without spiritual perception. Similar to that of Paranormal mechanics or smth
You'd have to eat and digest too if you didn't have a transparent food option. So...a pair of floaty eye bois that look like hummingbirds and a stomach that looks like a cute doggo filled with the remains of your victims? :)
The best kind Of invisibility is the power make people unable to acknowledge your existence. You are not invisible physically, but no one will be able to see, hear, smell or acknowledge any traces you leave behind. You will stop existing to them.
So it'd be better to be "imperceptible" rather than "invisible". The power to not be perceived would probably mean some sort of memory manipulation of anyone who sees you (both directly and indirectly). That'd be cool.
Well, I guess that you've just explained (however inadvertently) WHY the Predator relied on both "light-bending invisibility" and thermal vision: the former because it was safer, and the latter because it would let him see through his own kind of invisibility (as it did, in at least one scene). So, let's hear it for Predator! But in that vein of examples, these kinds of objections to "classic invisibility" have been considered before in popular culture and sci-fi. For instance, the "blind-while-invisible" trope was used in Star Wars legends as early as the 90's, and also in at least one RPG that I once played. (That same game also suggested that the power of intangibility would, similarly, cause deafness.) And also, the "invisible blurry field around you" concept was prominently used in "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock," when Kirk detects the Bird-of-Prey. Overall, this video begs the question of how to evaluate "non-classic" invisibilities, as a follow-up feature. Not only does this include the Predator's approach, but if you really want a challenge, let's hear your view on the Shadow's classic power to "cloud men's minds so that they cannot see him," from back in the old days! How would it work? And what would be its strengths and weaknesses?
And the "stuff settling around you will give away your position" is used in The Undiscovered Country to spot the perma-cloaked bird of prey. As I recall.
Worm had someone have a power of invisibility by literally making people forget about her while the power was active. She could reappear and their memories would be restored. That said, I think any super power is too easy to corrupt a person for us to want. As you mentioned, invisibility would probably have people more willing to try spying on or stealing from others. As fun as it could be to be 'naughty,' one would likely loose some of their morals. I know I'd probably be too tempted to go where I'm not supposed to go.
The last part about is actually not very true. Unable to see your own body doesn't make it super difficult to manipulate or grab objects. In fact, it is quite easy. You can recreate this feeling through VR. I am a researcher in VR and I had a program which doesn't generate your body at all, but I can still easily interact with object around me. Also, the longer you are in that state, the more comfortable it becomes.
As someone who coded and wore VR lenses, let me offer a rebuke to your argument: That's because you (or any subjet) can always and easily "re-calibrate" by blinking, taking the helmet off for a brief period of time, and re-assessing your surroundings with other senses (such as proprioception or basic equilibrium). Find a way to remove those, and I can GARANTEE you your subjects will be throughoutly disoriented after only a few moments with sights that don't quite match what they are "seeing". For example, numbness (lack of adequate sanguine circulation, elbow shock, or pain in general), being "high" from medication (even from something as mild as aspirin) or anything else such as alcool, being drowsy, etc... Also, some medical conditions that are common, such as water-sickness or epilepsy, can manage to be triggered. Even simple anxiety can be massively boosted by a VR experience. All those are examples of how simple sense-altering experience can have consequences (albeit mild ones in most cases). Being humans, sight is one of our most developped sense, and losing it (relative to our own bodies) can have unforessen consequences on many people. Now, TRAINING can alleviate this. Blind people are an example. But on-the-spot-absent visual impairement? It will be a shocking discovery for most.
I can offer a rebuke to your rebuke, VR Chat, the game in which people can upload their own avatars. There are many that don't have arms, are invisible, or don't have legs, etc. yet are able to move and manipulate objects without trouble. Proprioception and equilibrium exist without you having to see yourself, that's the whole purpose of them, it doesn't go away just because you can't see yourself. Taking them away doesn't make sense. I think this idea of being invisible is something we don't fully understand yet because we've never had any reason or ability to study it. I'd be rather interested in tests with users in VR and invisible avatars.
I can rebuke all of your rebukes by saying, as an average customer, one with little experience in VR, and no experience regarding coding (I did make a computer though!) you can account for everything accountable except for the unexpected. For example, the other day in my 5 by 7 foot room, I swung my arms as I battled against another in a Tron Light Disk sort of game, and for a solid three minutes, we dueled like madmen. I ducked, dodged, hell even spun all while on invisible feet. Then at the height of our battle, my hand smashed against something hard. I had moved one foot off the center of my room by accident. Now I have a big booboo and no one to kiss it. I hope you both can learn something from an absolute authority on this matter, genius, me! 😀😂
Look, the obvious "cheat" answer here is the superpower of perception manipulation. Not that you're literally becoming invisible, but that you can psychically fool people into not seeing you. There are plenty of fictional characters whose superpower is based on a psychic ability, just a very specific one that doesn't allow them to do anything else with their psychic powers. Pyrokinesis, for example. Basically what I'm saying is that you don't have to literally be invisible to keep people from realizing you're standing right in front of them. Naked. And yes, I realize this wouldn't work on technology - motion sensors, cameras, thermal sensors. But I'm pretty sure just like there have been comic characters with the above power, there have been others that can hide themselves from electronic detection. You're awesome, Kyle.
For example, the main antagonist of Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex is a cyborg that hacks the eyes of all other cyborgs around him so that they cannot see his presence. Or even better, his iconic Laughing Man censorship sticker
JoeNasr123 That is precisly what Jane does in the Apocalypse movie but considering the amount of technology that we have and is to come we would probably need to figure out another way
My OC for Marvel Heroes has a power of invisibility, inaudibility and odourlessness that doesn't work on cameras. The sheet doesn't specify whether it works on electronic noses and microphones, but I'm guessing it's "only works on beings, not on machinery." It wouldn't be much good for robbing a bank, but it's awfully handy for strolling up behind a mugger and swinging a bar stool at his head.
I'm glad the first thing you brought up was that you would be blind. A comic with an invisible character did approach this was "Planetary". Loving your videos
If you could distort light, why would you only be able to distort visible light? Also, you claim that you wouldn't want to have the power of invisibility because you say that being invisible makes it very weird and difficult to go around. However, you don't have to be invisible all the time, right? You could move to a tactical position and then hide out in the same spot completely unseen. Lastly I wanted to mention that you say that being invisible in the rain is completely useless, as your shape will be seen as a human-shaped void in the rain, but that does not mean that you are still as easily detected as when you were visible. It's not like people are on the lookout for human-shaped voids in precipitation, thus they may easily overlook it.
As you yourself send the infrared light, where do you distort it to? Hm, maybe straight up or down would be possible. In the rain I would say you are seen by the shape of the water clinging to you, not the missing rain.
I basically said that distorting light thing in my comment and added uv gamma and other high frequency wavelengths into the mix. Now invisible people can create cancer inducing lightsabers! :D
The problem with distorting infrared light is that you need to direct it _somewhere._ Otherwise, you'd slowly cook yourself as the heat built up. And the directed infrared light would be noticeable to an infrared camera, not as a human, but still as an usual heat patch
Yeah and they could have a dialogue that goes like Villain: "How can I hit him if I cant see him?!" Hero: "I seem to manage just fine." *proceeds to kick villains butt* Or something along those lines
The only character I ever gave invisibility to they also had space/time powers of awareness of what was around them (basically, they had that first option you talked about but they didn't need to have their eyes open to see things around them). I feel like that would work but that also includes a whole other set of powers to have to go with it.....
My wife is blind, and she walks just fine, but its not super either... She has to walk slower than a "normal" person and even doing that isn't enough, she's always bumping into stuff and have hard time doing things for the first time.. Not impossible to functional without vision... But not super either
I wanted to point this point out too, that a blind people can walk and do stuff too, just that it might be slower and harder and that they may bump into stuff, but it is possible.
Ambjørn read “a world without you” it’s a really good fictional story about a teen named Bo who can stop and travel time. It actually uses logic and it’s pretty good.
You would stop fotons to, so you wouldnt be able to see because the fotons wouldnt get into your eyes. That kinda sucks, but you could just make time run extremely low so the time difference is irrisory, but light can still moves I dont know if the word irrisory exist and have the same meaning in english, but in portuguese it means something that you can just ignore, doesn't make any difference
Wouldn’t you be flung off the earth? The earth is moving thousands of miles per hour but we as humans are moving at the same speeds. If we stopped time the earth would freeze but we would still have that speed and just get flung off. So even if we could stop time we would need a way to instantly speed up and slow down so we don’t go flying.
Well, the people using cameras would have to be out of your range of telepathy, or you'd just convince them that their cameras aren't picking anything up. It's a bit trickier than "cameras win xd", but yes, cameras and people looking at you from long range would be a problem.
May XXXTentacion Rest Forever In Peace ik he did but I don’t count that because getting a fake eye doesn’t count as having your eye back. I still count it as only having 1
You forgot an important version of invisibility. Removing yourself from the perception of others, sure it probably won't work on electronics, but what if your very image was also affected, say when someone looked at you in a recording of a motion detector, they wouldn't "see" you because your power works through any and all images of you including recorded, both still and motion images. Just another concept to think about.
The best part is that is kinda plausible. There is a part in the brain dedicated to select what of all the information perceived is important and then transport that to other parts of the brain so you can do something with it. The information considered as not important is discarded. That way you don't get overwelmed all the time. Imagine invisibility as the capacity to mess with that part of people's minds especifically. At least is interesting enough to deserve it's own video.
As many others have already mentioned with examples from other fandoms, you don't need real invisibility - only a telepathic suggestion. I'd like to add another fandom on the list, and that's Star Wars, where (at least in some of the extended universe) Jedi can do a 'don't see me' mental suggestion/trick, so they slip by undetected. It's more difficult the more people are involved, but it does make for a more convenient premise.
That would be a lot more useful form of invisibility that would be actually good to have. But you could still be seen on a camera afterwards if something happen to record you. Not a downside so big you wouldn't want it, just something you would need to keep in mind. Dogs sniffing out your smell could become a problem too
Yeah, at first I didn't really care about all the sciencey 'oh but you couldn't see/things would look weird/eyes visible/being naked' stuff. Superpowers aren't supposed to be 'scientifically explainable', they're fictional. And so, all the possible benefits and drawbacks are also governed by fiction, so long as it remains within our suspension of belief. But What I did find to be interesting points of discussion is the thermals and the impact on your mind from not being able to see your own body. While I'll straight up say, he definitely over-exaggerates on how screwed you'd be to thermal sensing, it's definitely something that would still be an issue if someone were to sense thermals. Even if you could stop the thermals from your own body, you'd still be causing irregularities to nearby objects. But then again. Show of hands if you or your workplace use any sort of thermal imaging and would be pointing it at nothing in particular. The inability to see yourself though, is definitely a real problem. This is something you can already experience in VR games. While almost every game will have your hands readily visible, many of them do not show anything else on your body. Regardless of full body tracking or not, you'd still be able to know where you actually stand if you could see your own body, just by using proprioception, in relation to where your in-game body's legs were, as they're typically straight down from your head, a little bit behind, then with proprioception, you figure out how much you're displaced from that body. But without that, you have no reference. This /could/ be amended by more fictional description of the invisibility. By allowing one to see oneself, only being invisible to others. But that sort of falls back to the suspension of belief point.
nul You're 100% right about superpowers being fictional and not realistic, but sciencing this stuff out is what determines whether it is possible or not. If we did all this science and figured out, hey, we can totally do this somehow! then boom we've got real superpowers
In Lord of the Ring one can assume there is a sort of additional dimension that mirror our own. I like how its portrayed in grey in the movies ;) Otherwise great presentation applicable to the Fantastic four, The Incredibles, Star Trek and so on... :) Its similar to the ghost problem where they walk on the floor yet pass through walls. Oh and last thing... for the same reason mentionned in this video you don't want Thor glowing eyes or any glowing eyes for that matters. If your eyes emits light then it the only thing you will see. (evil red glowing eyes are blind)
Even with all of this stuff, even with the problems that he described, if you could easily turn it on and off as you want, I think it could be useful. Not to rob a bank or something, but more like to do other little shenanigans. Magic tricks? Sit in a corner and turn invisible for a couple of seconds to avoid eye contact with someone? lol
5:12 Now that is genius. I hadn't considered dust particles. I guess what it means for a solution is - the classic invisibility. If something touches you, it too turns invisible.
Being not able to see yourself wouldn't have much of an issue with your ability to tell where your body is because if that was the case, blind people wouldn't be able to walk around or do anything at all. But blind people not only can walk and get around just fine, some can use echolocation instead to see and not bump into things! Echolocation wouldn't work very well at seeing your own body but it works just find in making sure they don't walk into things around them.
The way this video describes it literally jumps from a clear explanation of exactly why this *WOULDN'T* be an issue to saying it would be an issue anyway. Because definitely not science...
That doesn't mean being blind isn't a hinderance... the point he's making is that it's not really a superpower.... as it is more of a disability, sure you COULD get used to it and learn to adapt... but it'd still be more difficult then if you were just a normally visible person... just like it would be easier to be able to see as opposed to having to learn to deal with being blind
newquinken except he makes it see much larger a problem then it would actually be. You wouldn't have trouble walking or running, you also wouldn't be bumping into objects.
Depending on what part of your eyes show up, yes it could be gross. For example, what if the red muscle thingy showed up? (The thing that connects the eyes to the brain0
starting at 4:39 if you could bend photons instead of making yourself invisible, you can alter other people's site or bend photons away from other people's eyes, making them believe that they just went blind I hope I said that correctly
Invisibility is nothing compared to mind manipulation Think about it, just say to the person that he can't see you And you can just ask for cash from the bank
AIYt It would be DANGEROUS to have that power. Lets be honest. We could ALL get carried away over time. We could get anyone to do or believe anything we wanted. We would just cross lines until we got so bored we'd either stop doing it, or destroy the world or something just for fun. :(
Honestly, I think is better to have a invisible suit instead because you wouldn't admit a heat signature through the suit. You also can have a mask where you could see your outline to help you move around easier.
But if you wouldn't have a heat signature in the suit, you would be seeable as a negative to the environment, similar to as someone who would not emit any photons would appear as a completely black figure
@@cyberishere_2937 well, you have to think of UV light as basically normal light. So you could just extend your suit to that, and leave the eyes out, so on UV cameras you would look like a pair of floating eyes, which would likely just be seen as inaccuracy by human personal
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 Or.. just get a suit that actively copies the terrain and temperatures around you to fit into the closest surrounding so you end up vanishing when stopped, or another way which was hinted at, make your electric signature passthrough everything meanwhile the base of your feet do not so you can stand on anything and under anything with a permanent gravity down still, just have to figure out how to get someone or something to pass through everything else but not their own gear, essentially you take off your shoes you die.
The Boss That sounds like it needs "specific type of teleportation" attached. But Zero Punctuation criticizes teleporting powers in video games like Dishonor for being inaccurate and editing you into trouble.
I guess its something about being at one place and then suddenly appearing somewhere else, all of your surroundings changing and your brain not being able to handle it or something like that...idk.
The best way I could understand the theory of being invisible and the comparison of not have the mobility thing in your brain is the same feeling of have absolutely no blood circulation in all of your nerves. You when your: arm, hand, leg, and/or foot are so numb to the point you can’t feel what your: stepping on, holding, or touching anything, is what I think is would be like to be invisible based on how he described with the brains mobility thing. (I’m sorry if my explanation doesn’t make sense, not really good at explaining or describing things)
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*The "Kyle is Wrong!" FAQ*
Hey! Thanks for watching. The vlog this week doesn't cover this video, so here are some answers to your corrections:
1. I am of course aware that blind individuals can navigate the world and live normal lives! But I think you'd have a hard time arguing that their experience is a "superpowered" one, as we understand it.
2. Many people are misunderstanding my proprioception argument. I believe that we underestimate just how much visual information adds to our "movement sense." Knowing how to grasp objects, walk among obstacles, etc. (think of how hard it would be if you couldn't see where your body was) involves visual cues you don't even notice.
3. Yes, you can type without looking at your fingers, but that's not what I said. Without being able to FEEL where your fingers are -- with proprioception -- you would have to look at them.
4. The WHOLE POINT isn't that invisibility is impossible or impossible to live with, the point is that it has enough drawbacks that I wouldn't consider many versions of it "super," in that it wouldn't make you a superhero in the way you think. -- KH
As per my comments earlier, I had made an experiment to prove that point 2 is not so much of a drawback.
In the video, you ask us to imagine how to interact object with zero visual input. As a matter of fact, we don't have to imagine, we can replicate that process in VR.
In case you miss my comments, here are my experiments.
I recreated an identical room in the virtual world based on a physical room. Every object is also replicated in that room. The only thing that is missing in the virtual world, is your own body. I can easily grab anything with no problem. The longer I am in it, the more comfortable it becomes.
Do note that, the difference between the physical and virtual world is around 2-3cm. A wall that is supposed to be 10cm away in the real world could be 7-13cm in the virtual world. Even with this layer of error, I still have no problem navigating.
I do have other subjects on the experiment and it takes them a short moment to adjust to it. Now imagine having this power since birth, you will adapt to it like learning how to walk.
Points 1-4 make perfect sense, Kyle. These drawbacks hardly make for a "super" ability at all. That's why, as I previously commented, the only method/means of invisibility to others that makes sense is a phase-shift out of our 3 dimensional space where you can still walk around and see and hear everything, but perhaps not interact with it (much, if at all). Frodo and Bilbo's Ring of Power; Phase shifting a la the later Stargate SG-1 episodes with Merlin's workshop- out of phase and invisible to the rest of us, but technically "still there".
Hi Kyle !
I am SOOOO glad someone answered the 'are you blind if invisible' question. I just thought about this the other week because I almost read the Invisible Man, and it has been bugging me ever since for the first time in my ENTIRE life, and now, this video.
I think people want to be TRANSPARENT (Not Translucent
Honestly, being a floating pair of glowing eyes sounds fine. It's small enough to make most people think they're just seeing things but just big enough to creep the shit out of someone.
Yup
Do you have any idea how big a whole single eye is right?
Since i saw a real human eye and it is pretty big.
@@stonkermcstonkerface4531 wouldnt u only see the front of the eyes that are exposed normally to other people?
interestingly, in the invisible man novel, the invisible man says that the cat he turned invisible still had visible retinas, as the invis juice didn't bleach them clean
@@eg_manifest510 u can't use logic from a fictional novel to prove this
"911, what's your emergency?"
"Yeah, uh, I see a pair of floating eyes outside my window."
@@incognito9292 I'll probably be seeing that in my sleep now. Fun.
Just poke em
SneakySneaky Snake
yeah, with a knife
911 says, quit taking drugs dumbass.....
now im wondering, what if you just made the very top layer of your eyes visible then kept everything else invisible, wouldn't that work?
Being invisible with visible eyes is exactly what I want.
That would be a little freaky
Just cover them with glasses
@@thedude8457 then you can cover the glasses with a mask
@@ddvmian and then make the mask and glasses invisible
@@ddvmian then you can cover the mask with a scarf.
As someone who has experience being invisible to the ladies, it ain't all that fun.
But I see you 👀
Fr
🤣🤣
It can be plenty fun if you take advantage of it. You need to know how to use the cards you've been dealt.
Lol I have that problem too!
The story of an spy who retires after being blinded, goes through an intensive training regimen to use echolocation and the natural sounds around him, and then is chosen to be an invisible superhero is fantastic and I now need it in my life.
Re: When Daredevil gained the power of Invisibility suit, of ThermOptic Camouflage.
Fantastic idea
This gives me some ideas
sounds like alot of marvel movies but with a twist
yo quick! Think of a name for him!
"Close your eyes, itll be fine, close your eyes"
Me, listening to this while driving : "yeah I dont think that would be fine"
Well as long as it's not texting.
(Sarcasm)
In theory you wouldn't be able to close your eyes because your eyelids would be invisible too.
@@Jamac007 you're not wrong
@@Jamac007 wait why not canr your eye lids close like normal?
@@HassanAhmed-rf9xr if you're invisible it means every part of you is invisible, even to yourself, can't see your hands, feet or any body part, that includes your eye lids.
Shut up I'm already invisible to other people
Yeah your right .
Anyone else hear that? Sounds like an invisible comment.
I know u from jacksfilms
😁
The harsh reality
This guy just proved people have frame rates
If my eyes had the fps of my laptop, I'm only seeing one frame.
More accurate would be describing it as latency and image persistence.
@@theholypeanut8193 shame i can do 90fps
@@rajeshbedi 😂😂😂😂
It’s already been proven. We see about 120 FPS. It’s capped at something otherwise we would be able to see tires spinning and helicopter blades spinning more clearly.
Please keep in mind that this video refers to classic invisibility. With the exception of the 'no spatial awareness' rule and the thermal imaging mentioned in this video, projecting photons that are on either side of oneself could easily combat that whole 'unable to see' argument. Although he's right, you still wouldn't be able to rob banks/ steal anything because a floating bag of cash or a Chanel handbag would be a dead giveaway. The most you could do with this would be to avoid social interaction. Which in my opinion is sooo fucking worth it.
"avoid social interaction" People around you would still hear you breathing and now they think the place is haunted
If people can hear you breathing, there is something wrong. Even if that were the case, you'd be the ultimate prankster. That also sounds like a win in my book.
As any serious nerd can tell you, there are far easier ways to become invisible socially. Just pull out a Magic the Gathering deck, and nobody will acknowledge your presence in any way.
Chen Sun play pranks?
anlumo1 not always true. I had a really hot friend and she dated a guy big into MtG. But mostly true
Sounds exactly like something someone with invisibility would say
I was watching this with my four-year-old nephew and he was like "How does he know that I would sneak into the movies?!"
How did he know
How?
How did he know tho
Yeah how did he know
How does he know this?
Proposition;
What if we made a nano fiber optic mesh that collects photons and sends them from about the same location from any angle. Routing the light around you?
You could place magnetic coils around the fibers to collect data from the sympathetic charge and make a 360° line of sight.
The thermal energy of your body could be regulated and the excess heat could be filtered through a cascade lens making random wave lengths of light. that light could then be used to boost the output light so there is no preceivable heat or dimming.
Only a randomly oscillating polarization lens would be able to see the shimmer of light at the wrong angle.
That's kind of how Translucent from The Boys turns invisible.
This mf did not just figure out invisibility
Crysis symbiotic suit much?
@@03luigi14 And we all know how that worked out for him
Poungue
*reads title*
*reads channel name*
Oh ok. That explains it.
*because science*
Sam Hurley yep
Lol
You don't want invisibility
Because Science
Sam Hurley lllooooolll
Drax knows how to be truly invisible 😁
The key is to avoid eating Zarg-Nuts. Typical giveaway when you do that.
I love you for that comment😂
So does Hawkeye
Kris Anticknap noted
So true lol
Thanks Thor now I understand
exactly my thoughts xdd
HAHAHA
Holsp 😂😂😂
Jackscepticeye thor
Thor's just making videos to discredit all the other superheroes so that he can prove he's the best. Up next: Why You Don't Want To Turn Into An Angry Green Monster
Yeah I like the "invisibility" where it's you just cropping yourself out from people perceptions and they just subconsciously ignore you. Like you walk up and take a coffee and the world fills in that someone bought it in everyone's head that sees the coffee disappear, but there would still be a physical record of it being stolen
Who's sitting here thinking about how good Daredevil would do he had invisibility
The moment he mentioned being blind as a side effect, I thought 'Murdock would be awesome at invisibility'
Exactly
This brings up interesting points in regards to the power in comics. Being blind while invisible would encourage skills that the blind use.
@@jyoder1 it’s been a year sense I’ve watched this guy wow
that's exactly hat I was thinking, like he's already blind
this proves that “if i can’t see you, you can’t see me”
No u can just cover your eyes
Stand in the shadows
Simpler, the person is behind you.
No not really.
StakingBloom 442 security camera
Daredevil doesn't need to see. So I think he would be the best at being invisible. :P
Whoaa
Good point
Technically daredevil can see.. just not like a normal person
He needs sounds to see so he needs to make TOO much sound if he wants to be able to see himself and you can't sneak into anywhere if there is a someone because free sound you make wakes up everyone
@@baranjan6969 he uses sound, touch, taste, AND smell. Hed probably use echolocation, which would probably need silent tongue clicking
That’s what they say if you had a “permeation quirk” (passing through solid objects). In MHA they explained that you couldn’t see, breathe or hear when that power was activated. I’d love to see that power explored in a future video
You'd still go through the floor.
@@twistedyogertwhich is a move that the character with the Permeation quirk uses in combat.
Sinking into the ground and then popping up to strike his opponents.
I like how the vampires from World of Darkness utilize invisibility.
That's because they don't turn invisible. Instead, they influence the minds of people around them to not notice them and to make them rationalise why they shouldn't bump into you. Of course, there are plenty of creatures who are immune or highly resistant to this, but that makes the power a lot more interesting IMO.
Yes
VTM is a fun game, I do live how half of the abilities are just forms of ultra persuasion
Similar to the SEP Field in Douglas Adams’ “Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy” series. Basically, it’s a device that creates a field around an object rendering it “somebody else’s problem.” It’s not that the spaceship on the cricket pitch can’t be seen, it’s that anyone who sees it subconsciously tells themselves “How odd, I’m glad that isn’t my concern,” and they happily ignore it.
I feel like this is a pretty common ability in fiction
Sith and Jedi can do this too. Basically mind trick the person into not perceiving them. The cool thing about this power vs Sue storm invisibility is that it can apply to sounds or objects or even other people. Arguably it's more imperceptibility than invisibility though.
Have you read The Physics of Superheroes by James Kakalios? I’ll quote then explain it as I understand.
Chapter 23, section What Color are Invisible Woman’s Eyes?
“When [she] becomes invisible, she still absorbs and reflects light in the UV region of the spectrum... Special UV glasses (like the ones Doctor Doom installed in his armored mask) could [shift her visible].”
“This also explains how IW is able to see. ... her eyes... become sensitive to the scattered UV light that bounces off us, and is ignored by our eyes. ... Windows appear transparent to us... However, when Sue is invisible a window will appear as a dark space while other objects appear transparent to her. This mechanism... was suggested in Fantastic Four #62, vol.3.”
Basically, if you can shift your entire body up the color spectrum, your vision shifts with it. If you shift above UltraViolet (hey, that’s why the Incredibles daughter is named that!), you can see people and objects by their bounced UV rays, likely the same way we can see Cinderella’s glass slippers by the slight bounced colors we can see. Also, she can see herself because her pupils shifted up to match her body.
Edit: Question. If infrared reads body temperature, but Sue shifted all her bodily color to be in the UV spectrum INCLUDING her IR, what will that mean for both her bodily temperature and what the IR camera sees?
Local Maple I have the same book, good point to bring up!
Local Maple you sound really smart
Yeah invisibility in the relative human sense. She had a few feats too where she could also bend EM with her force shields as well.
Dubzy FTW I quoted a book. Then gave a layman interpretation.
If you really want to hear how researched-smart I can be, I have a video on my channel disproving ALL of MatPat’s Film Theories on Frozen, using only canon lore/interviews and real life subjects MatPat found acceptable for other theories.
Local Maple thank you for the matpat shit i dislike him but austin is cool on because science. I wish he was still on shoddycast.
He looks like Thor and sounds like VSauce3.
+
If Thor did the fusion dance with Vsauce you would get this dude.
Weston Oler the best combo
The perfect human
Facts
Actually, having power of invisibility with blindness as a drawback could make for an interesting story. Imagine, a man who you can't see and he cannot see you, yet he remembers every smell, every sound, every touch, etc.
You told me to close my eyes. I didn’t think it was a good idea. You said “it will be fine.” I was driving Kyle. It was not fine.
Harrison Tarabella why were you driving while watching this video?
Alec Smith he might of been just listening to it,I do it often.
Nukebros 0205 yes i do to but just in footnotes
Alec Smith yeah a lot of times I just listen to the audio of shows like this like it’s a podcast
You’re killing the fantasies of every teenager with strong hormones
His argument is 14.5 minutes long, but the counter argument is literally just "boobs" lol.
@@ObeyCamp no it's "cock"
Thats concerning thats a fantasy consent is vital.
I know it's supposed to be joke but I've had people watching me without my consent before and if I can tell you one thing it's not fun. At all.
@@tamatebako_yt ... It's not supposed to be fun for the person being watched. Ideally, the person being watched wouldn't know their being watched. That said, it's still fucked up, I just think your argument is bad.
Can I just have Drax's ability to stand so still that I become unnoticeable?
You already do🤯
@@jtwheeler5985 holy fuck
I like the concept of interfering with thoughts to basically remove your presence from their mind
Same here
That's basically gaslighting people into thinking you don't exist. Check out the "false hydra" dnd homebrew monster, you might like it
How would that work with CCTV?
@@ianwalker1182 typically the power allows you to show up on camera
@@ianwalker1182 Well, the way it likely works on regular humans is with some kind of magnetism or radio-wave-like ability that makes peoples eyes inherently avoid you and your brain avoid perception, these radio waves could disrupt cctv signal, and magnetism would break the camera/footage.
Ask this question to John Cena
kirby march Barcena how are you gonna find him?
Davin Williams We can't see him.
This need more like lmao
Ask drax the destroyer, or should i say, Drax the invisible
ruclips.net/video/MdVOAfXRcjI/видео.html
Me at 8: if I had super Powers it would be teleportation, super strength, and invisibility!
Because science: Hold up..
> Because science: Hold up..
Because Science: "Hold my Erlenmeyer flask..."
When I was younger I had that same list except just replace strength with forcefields.
well you can have invisibility by hoping in the 4d and you probobly could just see the inside of anything boxs animals and more or you will just freeze to death
I want to be a saiyan
Lol 😂
One cool thing about the original Predator movie (I don't remember if they do this in the sequels) is his eyes will occasionally flash yellow while he was invisible. I always interpreted this as his suit taking a picture of his surroundings and using it to make a 3d space for him to navigate. Just a personal headcanon of mine.
Here's my solution to 'most' of the problems.
The way my brand invisibility works is that photons with a frequency below ultraviolet pass through your body, but your eyes are mutated to only see ultraviolet light instead of visible. So you can see yourself since you absorb ultraviolet, and your invisibe to half the EM spectrum.
Ok mr "Im very smart and have a lot of knowledge and i am prolly very good looking as well"
@@UserFriendlyArtist wish I looked good
@@pleaseletmehavemyprivacy3450 same 😪
Interesting hero, would this result in the side effect of being more vulnerable to UV, if so that could make things interesting with a hero who fights at night, not because of the aesthetic, but because being invisible in broad daylight will give sun burn and risk cancer.
@@stm7810 his hero doesn’t need to be vulnerable to UV light. But being so would indeed make things more interesting.
Nobody:
This channel: "Why You don't want to breath oxygen."
Cause it forms radical species in our bodies leading to cancer and agging
dragonballz naruto I like how you spelt it wrong both times
they are the same comment bro
dragonballz naruto you made two comments
You don’t because of free radicals
Fun fact: I actually have invisibility already. I have to say, it sucks being invisible. Being ignored 24/7 sure does suck
Edit: Chill everyone just regular dark humor joke 😂
No, you're just ignored. There's a difference.
Anti Riku
He knows he's not invisible, just saying she's an outcast, like me .-.
FunnyVids? Nah You called that person a he then a she.
Anti Riku I think the joke just flew like 30 miles above ur head
Ruthless Ironnick247 r/woooosh
I once bought a new pair of shoes that had oddly shaped and wide soles, kept tripping on stuff because I wasn't used to moving my feet in them. So I could see how this would apply. It would be like trying to grab a glass of water while wearing a blinder (like the ones used on horses) on one side. Tactile maneuvering only.
Most people never consider these things. This is why I love this channel.
Tip: to make you invisible to everyone, just make them blind!
No all you have to do is walk around with a blindfold on. And then they can't see you.
Just poison the local water supply with a toxin that affects vision
@@sneakysnake7695 wow, that is just the sort of thing a very sneaky, sneaky snake would say.
The Triffid defense.
'In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king'
What if instead of turning yourself invisible, you could just turn off people's perception of you. It's less invisibility and more psychic pushing, but I feel like that could be better (as long as you can turn it on and off)
HxH
oooo this is a cool ideas
Jesus loves you 😊
Jesus loves you
Vampires from World of Darkness
Drax showed it to us...you just have to stand still for a short period of time
I don't know... Blind people can't see themselves but they navigate fine. They are still conscious of their bodies in space.
I'm amazed by how close your presentation skills come to that scary "over-the-top" range without actually stepping over the last hair-thin boundary. Just hovering inside the "keepin' it real, but with humour" range. Nice.
Also, I appreciate that the science you quote generally appears well researched and there's nothing that looks amped, skewed or outright messed up.
Finally, being able to watch an entire video through WITHOUT seeing a single typo, spelling gaffe or otherwise annoying punctuation or grammar screw-up is not only a relief, but now stands out as something peculiarly unique in the world of RUclips and elsewhere. And again, much appreciated!
Don't most people assume that you want invisibility that can be toggled?
I'd hide from people, whenever useful.
So in public when you wanted to hide you’d have to strip off your clothing and turn invisible? That’s sorta weird man
Don't you understand OP's point?
Besides, when you're trying to see, only your pupils need to be visible. Good luck to whoever's trying to spot a pair of tiny black dots that flicker out of existance when they get close to looking directly into them... especially at night.
Taco Cat I didn't say I'd be in public (in the event of a home invasion I'd appreciate being able to hide in plainsite).
Also, you don't have to be naked if your source of invisibility (and temporary blindness) comes in the form of a cloak that you wear and can be taken off
I think I've seen this guy from a Thor porn parody.
I thought he reminds me of another Watch
telephony yes you do
telephony
No need to advertise it where it isn't relevant either
telephony wow dude thats gay
telephony lmao you pissed off a few butthurt people
I’d want time control. It’s invisibility but better. Stopping time you can do anything you could while invisible but you can return where you where without people noticing you moved.
I didn't know Thor started making RUclips videos.
Isa Pudiyapura XD literally the reason I clicked on this vid.
Fucking ruthless 😂😂
Not fucking close to the real thor
Isa Pudiyapura
Lol
You must be new around here
Im invisible to girls...
Yep thats my superpower
suicide by words much?
Self destructive:100
i would like that super power wink wink
TwelvN yeah
Mine too
I believe most interpretations take into account that snow and water can play an effect and give you away, its how in some shows/movies they track someone invisible. As far as being naked, most shows/movies tend to go over this as well, and design special suits that can allow them to go invisible and the special clothing turns invisible as well.
or they have invisibility that acts as a field near the skin that turns other stuff invisible like clothes and whatever else is near your skin.
the boys 😎
@@stm7810 Bonus AV point for that field to effectively eliminate another person's clothing when in touch😎
Or you know, you can simply decide that worn and held items also turn invisible, since you're the writer, and can decide the power works however you want it to.
Jesus loves you
Has he made one of these about shape-shifting? I'm talking something like Alex Mercer from the game PROTOTYPE. Grow armor, claws, blades, whips, hammer fists, etc. Even the ability to fly/glide by growing wings or just turning into something that has wings, whether it be a bird or something mythicalogical like a dragon. Would the power of shape-shifting do something to the human mind?
I'm also really curious, I've always liked shapeshifting, always one of my top power choices. Especially recently when thinking about symbiotes.
fellow prototype gamer
The mind will most likely be fine as octopus and cuttlefish have amazing camouflage that can mimic surface textures to hide in sand corral or rock......
Or are octopus and cuttlefish secretly insane....
I think you kind of oversold the problem with not being able to see yourself. I mean people go blind and they manage to walk around.
Normally with a white-cane-stick thing.
The cane is more to deal with the fact that they cannot see their environment, not as much to deal with not being able to see themselves.
Exactly he just explained how Proprioception works and it has nothing to do with being able to see one's body
Sure it could probably be annoying at times but I still don't look at my feet when I walk on stairs so why would I suddenly not be able to walk on stairs?
Anduril came here to say this. Blind people manage all the time. Not to mention how your senses don't descend into chaos if you have to navigate a dark bedroom or get soap in your eyes.
It wouldn't be a huge problem, but I imagine reaching for a glass or trying to catch a ball would be a bit more difficult without visual stimulus. Of course we could test this by placing your arm under a board and reaching for a glass - see how hard it is.
Answer to problem: buy a magical invisibility cloak. Or inherit it from your long family line were your many great grandpa got one from building a bridge to cheat death. Simple.
I see what you did there but let's not spoil the refrance
Harry Potter and The Case of the Girls Locker Room
@@haymaker710 you spoiled it! The reference!
@Rachel Liu obvs 😉
@@haymaker710 girls locker room?
It's one of the three deathly hallows
This explains why endermens eyes can be seen with invisibility potion
Yes. It does
I spiders too, they sometimes spawn with potion effects!
Yee, although it would also make any creature's eyes visible too, not just them
maybe Minecraft logic isn't that unlogical
@@luciussalcedo3731
Why can't you be seen then,?
Since we can change skins to make anything be anything, i think we don't even have features like eyes. We just
.. see?
I mean illusion creation will make you invisible, so that whole argumant about "how bad invisiblility is" just got nullified by illusion creation
Okay,... but instead of turning yourself invisible you block your presence from others consciousness. An illusion of you not being there.
Being anti-memetic would be cool
there's actually a character with that power I think he was called forgetmenot or whatever
Perhaps having your consciousness/soul on another level renders you invisible to those without spiritual perception.
Similar to that of Paranormal mechanics or smth
Add in the ability to disrupt video devices and presto. Even IR cameras can’t see you.
@@foxzo9356 Jace Beleren from Magic The Gathering
I just want to be a pair of floaty eye bois.
You'd have to eat and digest too if you didn't have a transparent food option.
So...a pair of floaty eye bois that look like hummingbirds and a stomach that looks like a cute doggo filled with the remains of your victims? :)
Will Holz time to walk around and scare people >:D
who would win
Thermal Camera
vs
F l o a t y E y e B o i s
no you're not transparent. You have the light bed AROUND your body. Just your eyes would need to absorb light.
Can I just be a floating skeleton? Because then I can fulfill my dream to be a spooky scary skeleton.
Inisii SPOOPY!! 😂
Sannneessss ddaaannnccceee
Doot doot
Freeky do you know something we dont
Lilly Phillips would you send shivers down my spine?
i feel like the floating eyes part wouldn't be that bad. your eyes are small, you could crouch and hide them behind cover
Dont want to the ability to be invisble? Just want the ability to make everyone blind.
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shit i'd kill myself if you did that to me lol
I didn't know Thor had a RUclips channel😂😂
Desto Hup I didn't even know he new how to use a camera especially since he doesn't know what pop tarts are
Desto Hup , IKR
XD but where is his gf now!
xD I thought I was the only one who thought he looked like an off-brand Thor
Is this seriously Thor ?
*Turns invisible*
"Does this outfit make me look fat?"
Tries to scratch my head, but can't cause of my helmet. Shrugs.
Lmao, Ms Appear
Emmm
No
No honey
Your so thin I can't even see you
You aren't fat in the first place... I think
The best kind Of invisibility is the power make people unable to acknowledge your existence.
You are not invisible physically, but no one will be able to see, hear, smell or acknowledge any traces you leave behind.
You will stop existing to them.
Ha! Jokes on you! I'm already invisible to other people
Healt Desimal *OOF*
Ha
This is deep. I'm gonna go commit not alive now
*clap*clap*
Nice joke Cplee
*clap*clap*
Lol im just invisible to girls
Close your eyes, and suddenly you're listening to Jake Roper from Vsauce3
timmy delorian Haha, screw you, I can't unhear it now
FECK HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME
I ve only noticed this recently as well but very much agree.
Kinda looks like him too...FABIO ROPER 😂
More like Fake Roper
I have figured out how to be invisible!! All you have to do is be an introvert in High School.
Sixty9Cuda Won’t work, teachers would still talk to you or school counselors
Sixty9Cuda
#lolz
Lol sometime teacher or one of my class mate talk to me because they think I am "lonely".
or have a coc profile picture?😂
My name is every person in middle and high school I am a introvert and almost every kid interacted with me
The video's title is incorrect, a lot of people who saw the title want invisibility.
How does John Cena do it so well then??
Ali S It's JHON CENA!
@Omar G how did u know it was a person and not a thing?
Idk. Ask the first guy who commented this
So it'd be better to be "imperceptible" rather than "invisible". The power to not be perceived would probably mean some sort of memory manipulation of anyone who sees you (both directly and indirectly). That'd be cool.
That was essentially what the Shadow does when he "clouds the minds of men"
Professor x
Like the chameleon chimera ant from hunter x hunter that when he hold his breath he doesn't exist to anyone around.
Cars would run into you and shit
Like Invisible Boy from Mystery Men? Ish
Well, I guess that you've just explained (however inadvertently) WHY the Predator relied on both "light-bending invisibility" and thermal vision: the former because it was safer, and the latter because it would let him see through his own kind of invisibility (as it did, in at least one scene). So, let's hear it for Predator!
But in that vein of examples, these kinds of objections to "classic invisibility" have been considered before in popular culture and sci-fi. For instance, the "blind-while-invisible" trope was used in Star Wars legends as early as the 90's, and also in at least one RPG that I once played. (That same game also suggested that the power of intangibility would, similarly, cause deafness.) And also, the "invisible blurry field around you" concept was prominently used in "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock," when Kirk detects the Bird-of-Prey.
Overall, this video begs the question of how to evaluate "non-classic" invisibilities, as a follow-up feature. Not only does this include the Predator's approach, but if you really want a challenge, let's hear your view on the Shadow's classic power to "cloud men's minds so that they cannot see him," from back in the old days! How would it work? And what would be its strengths and weaknesses?
And the "stuff settling around you will give away your position" is used in The Undiscovered Country to spot the perma-cloaked bird of prey. As I recall.
More specifically, they tracked the ship's exhaust emissions: PLASMA.
Worm had someone have a power of invisibility by literally making people forget about her while the power was active. She could reappear and their memories would be restored.
That said, I think any super power is too easy to corrupt a person for us to want. As you mentioned, invisibility would probably have people more willing to try spying on or stealing from others. As fun as it could be to be 'naughty,' one would likely loose some of their morals. I know I'd probably be too tempted to go where I'm not supposed to go.
The last part about is actually not very true. Unable to see your own body doesn't make it super difficult to manipulate or grab objects. In fact, it is quite easy.
You can recreate this feeling through VR. I am a researcher in VR and I had a program which doesn't generate your body at all, but I can still easily interact with object around me.
Also, the longer you are in that state, the more comfortable it becomes.
As someone who coded and wore VR lenses, let me offer a rebuke to your argument:
That's because you (or any subjet) can always and easily "re-calibrate" by blinking, taking the helmet off for a brief period of time, and re-assessing your surroundings with other senses (such as proprioception or basic equilibrium).
Find a way to remove those, and I can GARANTEE you your subjects will be throughoutly disoriented after only a few moments with sights that don't quite match what they are "seeing". For example, numbness (lack of adequate sanguine circulation, elbow shock, or pain in general), being "high" from medication (even from something as mild as aspirin) or anything else such as alcool, being drowsy, etc...
Also, some medical conditions that are common, such as water-sickness or epilepsy, can manage to be triggered. Even simple anxiety can be massively boosted by a VR experience.
All those are examples of how simple sense-altering experience can have consequences (albeit mild ones in most cases). Being humans, sight is one of our most developped sense, and losing it (relative to our own bodies) can have unforessen consequences on many people.
Now, TRAINING can alleviate this. Blind people are an example. But on-the-spot-absent visual impairement? It will be a shocking discovery for most.
I can offer a rebuke to your rebuke, VR Chat, the game in which people can upload their own avatars. There are many that don't have arms, are invisible, or don't have legs, etc. yet are able to move and manipulate objects without trouble. Proprioception and equilibrium exist without you having to see yourself, that's the whole purpose of them, it doesn't go away just because you can't see yourself. Taking them away doesn't make sense. I think this idea of being invisible is something we don't fully understand yet because we've never had any reason or ability to study it. I'd be rather interested in tests with users in VR and invisible avatars.
I can rebuke all of your rebukes by saying, as an average customer, one with little experience in VR, and no experience regarding coding (I did make a computer though!) you can account for everything accountable except for the unexpected.
For example, the other day in my 5 by 7 foot room, I swung my arms as I battled against another in a Tron Light Disk sort of game, and for a solid three minutes, we dueled like madmen. I ducked, dodged, hell even spun all while on invisible feet. Then at the height of our battle, my hand smashed against something hard. I had moved one foot off the center of my room by accident. Now I have a big booboo and no one to kiss it.
I hope you both can learn something from an absolute authority on this matter, genius, me! 😀😂
Travis Storm that is spatial awareness, in other words, knowing where you are in space. A co lately different subject
Dawson Williams FAK! Time to hang up the coat I guess..
Jake from Vsauce3 just stole Thor's body
Yeah, he reminds me a lot of Jake, how he talks, how he looks...
Mr.M En Español more like fabio's body
More like Thor's hair
Mr.M En Español I was just going to type that word for word hahah I seen you beat me too it hahahahah😂😂😂
More like Because Science
Look, the obvious "cheat" answer here is the superpower of perception manipulation. Not that you're literally becoming invisible, but that you can psychically fool people into not seeing you. There are plenty of fictional characters whose superpower is based on a psychic ability, just a very specific one that doesn't allow them to do anything else with their psychic powers. Pyrokinesis, for example. Basically what I'm saying is that you don't have to literally be invisible to keep people from realizing you're standing right in front of them. Naked.
And yes, I realize this wouldn't work on technology - motion sensors, cameras, thermal sensors. But I'm pretty sure just like there have been comic characters with the above power, there have been others that can hide themselves from electronic detection.
You're awesome, Kyle.
Psychic powers need not be ineffective against technology
All you need is antimemetics, invisible to absolutely everything and probably yourself too
For example, the main antagonist of Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex is a cyborg that hacks the eyes of all other cyborgs around him so that they cannot see his presence. Or even better, his iconic Laughing Man censorship sticker
JoeNasr123 That is precisly what Jane does in the Apocalypse movie but considering the amount of technology that we have and is to come we would probably need to figure out another way
My OC for Marvel Heroes has a power of invisibility, inaudibility and odourlessness that doesn't work on cameras. The sheet doesn't specify whether it works on electronic noses and microphones, but I'm guessing it's "only works on beings, not on machinery." It wouldn't be much good for robbing a bank, but it's awfully handy for strolling up behind a mugger and swinging a bar stool at his head.
I'm glad the first thing you brought up was that you would be blind. A comic with an invisible character did approach this was "Planetary". Loving your videos
This guy is ruining all our dreams. Next : Immortality, pyrokinesis, magic...
The Boss ted-ed already did that XD
Antagonists fuck ted-ed ? Why lol
Antagonists its okay *hugs*
I mean, immortality has some very obvious drawbacks which makes it so I wouldn't even want it myself.
You can't ruin Immortality it comes in far to many shapes and forms to ruin the concept as a whole
If you could distort light, why would you only be able to distort visible light?
Also, you claim that you wouldn't want to have the power of invisibility because you say that being invisible makes it very weird and difficult to go around. However, you don't have to be invisible all the time, right? You could move to a tactical position and then hide out in the same spot completely unseen.
Lastly I wanted to mention that you say that being invisible in the rain is completely useless, as your shape will be seen as a human-shaped void in the rain, but that does not mean that you are still as easily detected as when you were visible. It's not like people are on the lookout for human-shaped voids in precipitation, thus they may easily overlook it.
As you yourself send the infrared light, where do you distort it to? Hm, maybe straight up or down would be possible.
In the rain I would say you are seen by the shape of the water clinging to you, not the missing rain.
I basically said that distorting light thing in my comment and added uv gamma and other high frequency wavelengths into the mix. Now invisible people can create cancer inducing lightsabers! :D
The problem with distorting infrared light is that you need to direct it _somewhere._ Otherwise, you'd slowly cook yourself as the heat built up. And the directed infrared light would be noticeable to an infrared camera, not as a human, but still as an usual heat patch
Thesaurus Rex direct it towards the infrared cameras, if you could find them, to blind them and potentially destroy them
Thesaurus Rex it wouldn't be noticeable to an infrared camera if the light never hits the lens, ie directing it straight up
To be honest, I would like to see an invisible but blind superhero.
Like Daredevil but invisible. That’d be nuts.
Remy Jones DAMMIT you beat me to it
Emerald Apple basically an invisible Dare devil
Yeah and they could have a dialogue that goes like
Villain: "How can I hit him if I cant see him?!"
Hero: "I seem to manage just fine."
*proceeds to kick villains butt*
Or something along those lines
Remy Jones
Exactly!
The only character I ever gave invisibility to they also had space/time powers of awareness of what was around them (basically, they had that first option you talked about but they didn't need to have their eyes open to see things around them). I feel like that would work but that also includes a whole other set of powers to have to go with it.....
My wife is blind, and she walks just fine, but its not super either... She has to walk slower than a "normal" person and even doing that isn't enough, she's always bumping into stuff and have hard time doing things for the first time.. Not impossible to functional without vision... But not super either
The Last Show huh?
Eighter?
Either?
Ate her?
Your wife can't see anything but invisible man can see stuff. So even better than your wife.
I wanted to point this point out too, that a blind people can walk and do stuff too, just that it might be slower and harder and that they may bump into stuff, but it is possible.
I'm from Brazil .. Sorry for the words I got wrong !
What about the ability to stop time?
Ambjørn read “a world without you” it’s a really good fictional story about a teen named Bo who can stop and travel time. It actually uses logic and it’s pretty good.
You would stop fotons to, so you wouldnt be able to see because the fotons wouldnt get into your eyes. That kinda sucks, but you could just make time run extremely low so the time difference is irrisory, but light can still moves
I dont know if the word irrisory exist and have the same meaning in english, but in portuguese it means something that you can just ignore, doesn't make any difference
Davi Gurgel fotons?
What Is This photons, sorry
Wouldn’t you be flung off the earth? The earth is moving thousands of miles per hour but we as humans are moving at the same speeds. If we stopped time the earth would freeze but we would still have that speed and just get flung off. So even if we could stop time we would need a way to instantly speed up and slow down so we don’t go flying.
Still wanna be invisible sorry
Same
Sadist
masochist. de wae sadism is enjoying other peoples pain. masochism is where you like pain.
My Channel Sucks ah, i see
Thank you for teaching me a lesson
Why wouldn't I want invisibility?
Because science.
The perfect invisibility is telepathic. Think of it! You can persuade to the other people brain that you are not there. How cool that will be. :)
Tisza András Cameras tho.
Its like proffesor X
It's ya boy, Chips Ahoy. Telepathic invisibility... Defeated by every smartphone in the world.
Tisza András
Telepathy does not equal invisibility
Well, the people using cameras would have to be out of your range of telepathy, or you'd just convince them that their cameras aren't picking anything up. It's a bit trickier than "cameras win xd", but yes, cameras and people looking at you from long range would be a problem.
I don't need THOR telling me what super power I'm not allowed to have 🙃
Thor lost an eye and has short hair
Dual Wielded
finally someone with common sense. btw he got his eye back from rocket in infinity war
May XXXTentacion Rest Forever In Peace ik he did but I don’t count that because getting a fake eye doesn’t count as having your eye back. I still count it as only having 1
May XXXTentacion Rest Forever In Peace he hot when he have long hair 😭😭
Dual Wielded hes talking about norse mytholigy i think
You forgot an important version of invisibility. Removing yourself from the perception of others, sure it probably won't work on electronics, but what if your very image was also affected, say when someone looked at you in a recording of a motion detector, they wouldn't "see" you because your power works through any and all images of you including recorded, both still and motion images. Just another concept to think about.
Cha-Khia Blankenship that's one of my favorites. Not you dont see me, but you dont notice me
that would be really powerful the power would be called Placation.
Is also how invisibility works in the Elder Scrolls games.
The best part is that is kinda plausible. There is a part in the brain dedicated to select what of all the information perceived is important and then transport that to other parts of the brain so you can do something with it. The information considered as not important is discarded. That way you don't get overwelmed all the time.
Imagine invisibility as the capacity to mess with that part of people's minds especifically. At least is interesting enough to deserve it's own video.
Is that anything like the TARDIS's perception filter from Doctor Who?
As many others have already mentioned with examples from other fandoms, you don't need real invisibility - only a telepathic suggestion. I'd like to add another fandom on the list, and that's Star Wars, where (at least in some of the extended universe) Jedi can do a 'don't see me' mental suggestion/trick, so they slip by undetected. It's more difficult the more people are involved, but it does make for a more convenient premise.
That would be a lot more useful form of invisibility that would be actually good to have. But you could still be seen on a camera afterwards if something happen to record you. Not a downside so big you wouldn't want it, just something you would need to keep in mind. Dogs sniffing out your smell could become a problem too
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Classic Invisibility without any disabilities: Yes
Invisibility how science describes it: No
But only if I could decide when I am invisible.
Yeah, at first I didn't really care about all the sciencey 'oh but you couldn't see/things would look weird/eyes visible/being naked' stuff. Superpowers aren't supposed to be 'scientifically explainable', they're fictional. And so, all the possible benefits and drawbacks are also governed by fiction, so long as it remains within our suspension of belief. But What I did find to be interesting points of discussion is the thermals and the impact on your mind from not being able to see your own body. While I'll straight up say, he definitely over-exaggerates on how screwed you'd be to thermal sensing, it's definitely something that would still be an issue if someone were to sense thermals. Even if you could stop the thermals from your own body, you'd still be causing irregularities to nearby objects. But then again. Show of hands if you or your workplace use any sort of thermal imaging and would be pointing it at nothing in particular.
The inability to see yourself though, is definitely a real problem. This is something you can already experience in VR games. While almost every game will have your hands readily visible, many of them do not show anything else on your body. Regardless of full body tracking or not, you'd still be able to know where you actually stand if you could see your own body, just by using proprioception, in relation to where your in-game body's legs were, as they're typically straight down from your head, a little bit behind, then with proprioception, you figure out how much you're displaced from that body. But without that, you have no reference.
This /could/ be amended by more fictional description of the invisibility. By allowing one to see oneself, only being invisible to others. But that sort of falls back to the suspension of belief point.
nul You're 100% right about superpowers being fictional and not realistic, but sciencing this stuff out is what determines whether it is possible or not. If we did all this science and figured out, hey, we can totally do this somehow! then boom we've got real superpowers
In Lord of the Ring one can assume there is a sort of additional dimension that mirror our own. I like how its portrayed in grey in the movies ;)
Otherwise great presentation applicable to the Fantastic four, The Incredibles, Star Trek and so on... :)
Its similar to the ghost problem where they walk on the floor yet pass through walls.
Oh and last thing... for the same reason mentionned in this video you don't want Thor glowing eyes or any glowing eyes for that matters. If your eyes emits light then it the only thing you will see. (evil red glowing eyes are blind)
Even with all of this stuff, even with the problems that he described, if you could easily turn it on and off as you want, I think it could be useful. Not to rob a bank or something, but more like to do other little shenanigans. Magic tricks? Sit in a corner and turn invisible for a couple of seconds to avoid eye contact with someone? lol
If I have invisibility... I will steal neighbour's highspeed wifi.
TotallySpoon this is the second time you complained about your wifi
TotallySpoon whats your wifi ?
I think they will notice a flying phone in their house
TotallySpoon omg good one.
DM me, I can help you with that.
5:12 Now that is genius. I hadn't considered dust particles. I guess what it means for a solution is - the classic invisibility. If something touches you, it too turns invisible.
Being not able to see yourself wouldn't have much of an issue with your ability to tell where your body is because if that was the case, blind people wouldn't be able to walk around or do anything at all. But blind people not only can walk and get around just fine, some can use echolocation instead to see and not bump into things! Echolocation wouldn't work very well at seeing your own body but it works just find in making sure they don't walk into things around them.
quantum6 - My thought as well. People who go blind learn to operate without seeing their body.
The way this video describes it literally jumps from a clear explanation of exactly why this *WOULDN'T* be an issue to saying it would be an issue anyway. Because definitely not science...
That doesn't mean being blind isn't a hinderance... the point he's making is that it's not really a superpower.... as it is more of a disability, sure you COULD get used to it and learn to adapt... but it'd still be more difficult then if you were just a normally visible person... just like it would be easier to be able to see as opposed to having to learn to deal with being blind
newquinken except he makes it see much larger a problem then it would actually be.
You wouldn't have trouble walking or running, you also wouldn't be bumping into objects.
TheOnismithcreations You would have trouble walking if you couldn't see
It wouldn't be gross to see floating eyes, just creepy
CamoSquid21YT proven by the yuri eye scene in ddlc
Depending on what part of your eyes show up, yes it could be gross.
For example, what if the red muscle thingy showed up? (The thing that connects the eyes to the brain0
Bobface 1212 oh boi andross
Bobface 1212 ok, I guess I never thought of that, I was just thinking the eyeball, because that's where the protons would be hitting
Imagine tho
You're with some people showing off what they can do and then you do your thing
Just imagine their scarred for life faces
When I first saw this video in my recommended it was like:
*Why You Don’t Want Invisibility*
Because Science
since half his videos start with why its like that to all people who watch any videos on his channel
starting at 4:39 if you could bend photons instead of making yourself invisible, you can alter other people's site or bend photons away from other people's eyes, making them believe that they just went blind
I hope I said that correctly
*Naked and afraid*
The Thor teaser trailer with invisibility man got me so excited!
loool
me too :(
Thor and Drax, awesome!!!
Invisibility is nothing compared to mind manipulation
Think about it, just say to the person that he can't see you
And you can just ask for cash from the bank
Genevieve17 yeah sometimes having too strong of a superpower would make everything way too easy, boring and unfulfilling
AIYt It would be DANGEROUS to have that power. Lets be honest. We could ALL get carried away over time. We could get anyone to do or believe anything we wanted. We would just cross lines until we got so bored we'd either stop doing it, or destroy the world or something just for fun. :(
Genevieve17 not a problem for me, I'd like it to be easy
Genevieve17 you could just make yourself think you earned everything. Problem solved.
I'd want that
that would be terrifying, just being a pair of floating eyes.
Perfection.
Will we ever get an episode on Why You Don't Want the Ability to Stop Time?
Kyle will say you'll get older faster than usual lol. But honestly i want to have an episode like this.
Because it's be *Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless Useless!!!*
Yeah it would suck you would stop time and because time stopped your stopped which mean you can’t u freeze it and so your just stuck there
you'd also be flung off of the earth because it would be frozen in space
*stops time*
since time is stopped, you cant unstop it
-the end of time arrived-
Honestly, I think is better to have a invisible suit instead because you wouldn't admit a heat signature through the suit. You also can have a mask where you could see your outline to help you move around easier.
But if you wouldn't have a heat signature in the suit, you would be seeable as a negative to the environment, similar to as someone who would not emit any photons would appear as a completely black figure
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 huh. Interesting. Soooo, is there something that combats or counters it?
@@cyberishere_2937 well, you have to think of UV light as basically normal light. So you could just extend your suit to that, and leave the eyes out, so on UV cameras you would look like a pair of floating eyes, which would likely just be seen as inaccuracy by human personal
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 hmm. Ill keep note of that.
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 Or.. just get a suit that actively copies the terrain and temperatures around you to fit into the closest surrounding so you end up vanishing when stopped, or another way which was hinted at, make your electric signature passthrough everything meanwhile the base of your feet do not so you can stand on anything and under anything with a permanent gravity down still, just have to figure out how to get someone or something to pass through everything else but not their own gear, essentially you take off your shoes you die.
Why you don't want teleportation
The Boss That sounds like it needs "specific type of teleportation" attached. But Zero Punctuation criticizes teleporting powers in video games like Dishonor for being inaccurate and editing you into trouble.
Woke up and end up in a sewer
I guess its something about being at one place and then suddenly appearing somewhere else, all of your surroundings changing and your brain not being able to handle it or something like that...idk.
that's like changing channels in a television. Doesn't seem to be bad
go defect to the soviet union
The best way I could understand the theory of being invisible and the comparison of not have the mobility thing in your brain is the same feeling of have absolutely no blood circulation in all of your nerves. You when your: arm, hand, leg, and/or foot are so numb to the point you can’t feel what your: stepping on, holding, or touching anything, is what I think is would be like to be invisible based on how he described with the brains mobility thing. (I’m sorry if my explanation doesn’t make sense, not really good at explaining or describing things)