I went on an off road excursion (which required locking difs) in my Jeep Rubicon Gladiator and with my automotive journalist son and his friend driving a new Grenadier.........got to drive the Grenadier and liked it very much.
I have had my Grenadier since April and I absolutely love it more every day. It doesn’t drive as good as a Cybertruck, it doesn’t have the top off capability of my Jeeps, but there is just something intangible that draws me to it whenever I go to my garage and it is always my first choice to go anywhere.
Oh god the travesty of having to turn a key without a button. With all due respect, im so happy i grew up in the 90s right before the internet really took off. People continue to remove interactions from their lives. No block buster with the family, just click some buttons. No playing games with friends, just get online. Its like a quest to remove as much attention and 'inconvenience ', so that you have that much more time to use the internet. Living in the moment and appreciating little things is outdated apparently
@@ZACH_95_ I'd take it a layer deeper that cars don't feel as connected as they used to with all the decomposing rubber on all of the joints and input points of information for a human to interface eith cars. It started in the 90s if you ever drove a 1960-1990 manual trans in the mid 90s+ you cant "feel" syncros and gates in a shifter. You cant "feel" a rock you drove over through the steering wheel. And now, you can't feel that rock through the seat or floor. If you want that sensation, drive a sim. Ineos represents people sick of screens, menus, and subscriptions for a car. I am personally pretty much done with the new stuff being made and sticking to powertrain swaps keeping old, but good cars on the road. Best of both worlds. 😂
People these days want to be the passenger. That's what all the conveniences and assists are about. If you want to be the driver, vehicles like the Grenadier are a god send.
Also Ben, I have been watching you for a while now and though I don't always agree with your opinion, I can't imagine how you do this. You are probably the hardest working RUclipsr I have ever seen. May goodness. Your video production is great but your content is relentless. Congrats on the beautiful family. Your daughter is going to see your work ethic and emulate it. That's a gift she will appreciate when she takes on the working world. Just giving you your flowers bro. Great work.
Glad to hear you like it! The B58 engine must keep it so smooth. I’m generally a GX man, but the Grenadier truly has me debating…. Very different car obviously, but the Grenadiers cool factor is better than anything my price range 60-100k
Nice summation of the concept. I too get bored with modern vehicles and that is exactly why I ordered my own Grenadier after getting use of a loaner for a few days. Thanks for the confirmation of my thoughts!
Test drove one today and it was fun. The fact that you can get a check engine light in the first 5000 miles is completely unacceptable. I don't care what they say about a "software glitch." It is wild looking at you drive this beautiful new car with the check engine light shining in the center of the screen.
Hi, weirdly I own both a grenadier and a bmw motor bike and as you know there’s a lot of bmw in the grenadier . Both came up with error codes at similar times . Took them both into respective dealers and they carried out full software updates , both now perfect . REMEMBER TAKE BOTH KEYS TO ALLOW DEALERS TO FO FULL FACTORY RESET. You’ll need to tweak a few of the settings inc klm / mph and litre / imp gallons or US gallons of technician forget . But then you’ll be sorted Ben. I’ve had mine since June 23 and I’m amazed by the build quality . You can definitely tell its design / engineering comes from Magna (they build the G wagon for Merc ) love it to bits. You’ll also find they are pro active in improving every fine detail and you’ll no doubt have a few more service bulletins that they’ll upgrade in the background . All Grenadier owners should check fuel recording set up ,bizarrely I had a 1st edition Merc ML 270 in 2001/2 and it’s set up in US gallons not UK gallons.
Your are fortunate to have a dealership in your area. In my case, 5 hours a way was a deal killer for me. You may know this but in case you don't, you can clear the check engine light with a cheap code reader and it won't come back (for a while). The voodoo around keeping it from coming back seems to be removing the key from the ignition when refueling and not topping off. It only happened to me once in 2500 miles. The wheels were a nice edition.
Folks complaining that it doesn’t have a push button start is incredibly petty. It was designed to be an off-road beast out of the box. If you want mall crawler created comforts, get a friggin mall crawler, lol. 🙄😂
Tire and wheel setup dramatically improved the look of that thing. Love the B58 BMW engine, but it's anemic for that big heavy beast. Especially with Falken Wildpeak bricks on for shoes.
Just went to look them up and see how much they go for. Not bad really. I like it. Never heard of this vehicle before. Thanks very much for sharing. Might be looking into wanting to buy one now.
I have been looking at reviews from owner drivers. I was surprised how positive they have been after extensive use. This is the first vehicle from an entirely knew brand. These owners seem to really understand what the Grenadier designed for.
Love my Grenadier too. Added a few extras such as the steps from Black Sheep (excellent fit to the rock sliders) oder the Bison Gear luggage compartment pieces(also excellent fit)
I just got that dreaded "check engine" light. Currenly have 4400 miles; light turned 5 minutes after getting gas. Read in the forums that you shouldn't top off, which I did. I'm not assuming that is my issue, setup an appointment but the dealer requires me to get a loaner, which is available in 2 weeks.
@@BenHardyCars have the Innova 3100 but error detected. No new firmware available even after owning this for more than 6 years. I guess I could just go to autozone.
This man just wants to share his thoughts on an awesome car, and everyone wants to talk about his hair/ beard… weird, thanks Ben for sharing your thoughts, I love the Grenadier personally and may end up getting one after your input regarding it :)
I like the Grenadier, it's old school in the right way. The only real downside is that BMW shifter. LOL. I like that it makes you use the keys in the old school way and I like the push button to ope the door. I have had keyless entry and push button start forever now and I still hate it.
A few people have changed the shifter for a Toyota Supra model which looks great and matches the utilitarian transfer shifter better. It's a DIY job if you're handy. ruclips.net/video/BOPxAzcPjNc/видео.html
I have been driving a Prius since 2008. Having a push button made sense for this application. Any car now that does the push button is just following the trend. I prefer a key ignition car. I do not like my 4Runner with a push button. It does not feel natural for this vehicle.
I hate that you're making me start to really like that truck. It looks amazing and super capable. I'm sure it won't last like a Land Cruiser but it looks like a lot of fun.
Seriously, it will laaaaast. The ladder chassis is galvanised and potentially will resist rust for 40 years or more. Most of the panelling is aluminium (again, so that it will stand the test of time). All the components have longevity in mind, even the rubbers are designed to outlast others.
Do you regret getting rid of the bronco raptor? Do you miss it in the comfort/fun factor? I like the Grenadier I am waiting for them to do a few improvements on it just recently sat in one we had a dealer open about 40 miles away and I like them sitting in one I felt right at home and my comparison is to owning many jeeps including the 392 also owning the bronco raptor which I really enjoy, But in the back of my mind I’m very curious about the Grenadier I will be test driving one soon and if I love it I may purchase one
A vehicle tracking straight is not about luxury. My lady’s 2024, $28k, honda acord tracks straight. Anybody can get used to anything if they have to, but you don’t have to. Not for the price of that vehicle. Buttons sometimes work and sometimes they don’t. I’m paying that much for a vehicle, i’d expect a more uniform experience than the negatives you describe. But to each their own. If you love it kudos to you, enjoy
Toyota is scamming the US a little by simply branding that “Land Cruiser” and creating the impression that the legend is returning to your market. THE current Land Cruiser is the LC300. 20 years or so ago, Toyota nailed a strategy to develop a smaller, cheaper, more everyday model from the previous generation Land Cruiser platform and called it a Prado. The Prado strategy has been brilliant and it has been a damn good vehicle and sold really well into a true crossover market with excellent road manners, genuine off-road ability. However, if you want the larger size and capability, the LC300 costs about 50% more (for the off-road version but more again if you want even more luxury levels) the Grenadier is more in line with LC300 or, if you’re really hard core, a 70 series Land Cruiser that was the pinnacle in the 80’s but still sells well. It costs about the same as the higher spec Prados but you’ll spend a lot more on it to be truly comparable to Grenadier or LC300. In a market that sells all three Toyotas , nobody calls Prados Land Cruisers. If you did you’d be shouted down with responses like “Mall Crawler”, “Shopping Trolley”, “School Bus” by people who will even concede that they are very good off road. The Prado should sell really well in the US because it is really good but it’s not an LC300 and 50% more dollars for a Grenadier is about right.
Not sure where you’re getting that figure. Comparing equivalent trims and options, the Grenadier is maybe 14% more. Plus solid axles, and built on a drivetrain platform that is well proven. The new Toyotas are already facing some real issues.
No way - a First Edition is the comparable trim - my Toyota dealer said with their markup and mods to get more clearance, wheels and plates would put me over $100k on the LC - the Grenadier is comparable, if not less
Ben, I love the look and capabilities of these vehicles. Have come very close to purchasing one as well. However, the nagging thought that they may not be around long is very concerning. The company recently announced that their manufacturing plant is closed indefinitely. Would very much like to hear your thoughts on whether they will be around for long.
like it , ineos put utility back into sport utility vehicle , not a 3row luxury family school bus with add wt of every power, tilt,fold luxury car bits
Good review but you couldn’t give me one of those grenadier’s. Also did you make the mistake of comparing a new vehicle against a 29 year old defender and you were surprised the defender drove like crap.
Ben, I have a hard time understanding your pronunciation of the first word of the first ???LandCruiser of the two cars you like the best. Could you, please, write it out here for me? TIA
@BenHardyCars - Not sure what's going on, but I've been subscribed to your channel for a long time. Stopped getting your videos and I just noticed that I was somehow unsubscribed. Has this happened to anyone else?
Big problem with these sort of vehicles At the end of the day one is just driving to the store or whatever When the novelty wears off then one just doesn’t want to deal with the nonsense and the lousy gas mileage That is why the 4Runner is so successful it will do most of what this does but still functions as grocery getter and no need to wonder when the check engine light will come knocking again Enjoy😅
@@magnoliap5824 not really terrible for a naturally aspirated V6 truck For example the Toyota Highlander V6 with 8 speed wasn’t that much better The point is it operates a normal “car” every day while still being capable The ineos puts off-road capability first like an old defender so all this compromise is baked into it
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I went on an off road excursion (which required locking difs) in my Jeep Rubicon Gladiator and with my automotive journalist son and his friend driving a new Grenadier.........got to drive the Grenadier and liked it very much.
I have had my Grenadier since April and I absolutely love it more every day. It doesn’t drive as good as a Cybertruck, it doesn’t have the top off capability of my Jeeps, but there is just something intangible that draws me to it whenever I go to my garage and it is always my first choice to go anywhere.
They look awesome.
It is great to have options.
Oh god the travesty of having to turn a key without a button. With all due respect, im so happy i grew up in the 90s right before the internet really took off. People continue to remove interactions from their lives. No block buster with the family, just click some buttons. No playing games with friends, just get online. Its like a quest to remove as much attention and 'inconvenience ', so that you have that much more time to use the internet. Living in the moment and appreciating little things is outdated apparently
What’s any of that have to do with having a key or a push button. 🤣🤣
@@ZACH_95_ I'd take it a layer deeper that cars don't feel as connected as they used to with all the decomposing rubber on all of the joints and input points of information for a human to interface eith cars. It started in the 90s if you ever drove a 1960-1990 manual trans in the mid 90s+ you cant "feel" syncros and gates in a shifter. You cant "feel" a rock you drove over through the steering wheel. And now, you can't feel that rock through the seat or floor. If you want that sensation, drive a sim. Ineos represents people sick of screens, menus, and subscriptions for a car. I am personally pretty much done with the new stuff being made and sticking to powertrain swaps keeping old, but good cars on the road. Best of both worlds. 😂
People these days want to be the passenger. That's what all the conveniences and assists are about. If you want to be the driver, vehicles like the Grenadier are a god send.
I despise push button start.
@@ZACH_95_ 😂 Wow, your question is the best confirmation of how true his statement is!
Also Ben, I have been watching you for a while now and though I don't always agree with your opinion, I can't imagine how you do this. You are probably the hardest working RUclipsr I have ever seen. May goodness. Your video production is great but your content is relentless. Congrats on the beautiful family. Your daughter is going to see your work ethic and emulate it. That's a gift she will appreciate when she takes on the working world. Just giving you your flowers bro. Great work.
We have about 6,000 miles on ours now and it has just been perfect no issues The thing is a tank
Glad to hear you like it! The B58 engine must keep it so smooth. I’m generally a GX man, but the Grenadier truly has me debating…. Very different car obviously, but the Grenadiers cool factor is better than anything my price range 60-100k
@@dzonin.8403 Yes it really is a very high quality vehicle there are no shortcuts everything underneath looks like an F-350
Nice summation of the concept. I too get bored with modern vehicles and that is exactly why I ordered my own Grenadier after getting use of a loaner for a few days. Thanks for the confirmation of my thoughts!
Test drove one today and it was fun. The fact that you can get a check engine light in the first 5000 miles is completely unacceptable. I don't care what they say about a "software glitch." It is wild looking at you drive this beautiful new car with the check engine light shining in the center of the screen.
Hi, weirdly I own both a grenadier and a bmw motor bike and as you know there’s a lot of bmw in the grenadier . Both came up with error codes at similar times . Took them both into respective dealers and they carried out full software updates , both now perfect .
REMEMBER TAKE BOTH KEYS TO ALLOW DEALERS TO FO FULL FACTORY RESET. You’ll need to tweak a few of the settings inc klm / mph and litre / imp gallons or US gallons of technician forget . But then you’ll be sorted Ben.
I’ve had mine since June 23 and I’m amazed by the build quality . You can definitely tell its design / engineering comes from Magna (they build the G wagon for Merc ) love it to bits. You’ll also find they are pro active in improving every fine detail and you’ll no doubt have a few more service bulletins that they’ll upgrade in the background .
All Grenadier owners should check fuel recording set up ,bizarrely I had a 1st edition Merc ML 270 in 2001/2 and it’s set up in US gallons not UK gallons.
Your are fortunate to have a dealership in your area. In my case, 5 hours a way was a deal killer for me. You may know this but in case you don't, you can clear the check engine light with a cheap code reader and it won't come back (for a while). The voodoo around keeping it from coming back seems to be removing the key from the ignition when refueling and not topping off. It only happened to me once in 2500 miles. The wheels were a nice edition.
Not topping off is silly, I’ll just bask in the glow of the light
Folks complaining that it doesn’t have a push button start is incredibly petty. It was designed to be an off-road beast out of the box. If you want mall crawler created comforts, get a friggin mall crawler, lol. 🙄😂
I do love it. Such a great 4x4 market with the New LandCruiser, Bronco, in addition to the Ineos
Tire and wheel setup dramatically improved the look of that thing. Love the B58 BMW engine, but it's anemic for that big heavy beast. Especially with Falken Wildpeak bricks on for shoes.
Feels quick enough
The B58 can easily be tuned for power, solely by software changes.
You are right on the Saddle Leather package... pricey but dead sexy and super lux look and feel.
Agreed Ben! After short ownership it’s fun and amazing. Next step for me is converting into camper!
Just went to look them up and see how much they go for. Not bad really. I like it. Never heard of this vehicle before. Thanks very much for sharing. Might be looking into wanting to buy one now.
I saw one today where I live. I didn't know what it was It definitely made me turn my head.
I have been looking at reviews from owner drivers. I was surprised how positive they have been after extensive use. This is the first vehicle from an entirely knew brand. These owners seem to really understand what the Grenadier designed for.
I love the the way the Grenadier looks but best off-road vehicle ever I think that title belongs to Jeep Wrangler.
Thank you for the review! I really like this car.
What about the gas mileage?
In 1965, our Pontiac tempest had exactly the same door handles… no inconvenience at all
Love my Grenadier too. Added a few extras such as the steps from Black Sheep (excellent fit to the rock sliders) oder the Bison Gear luggage compartment pieces(also excellent fit)
Very unique looking. Like the Bronco.
I would buy this vehicle, just because it is analogy in such a crazy digital world, I love having a car to turn, yes I’m old school.
Gandalf Hardy Reviews 😅
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I about said the same thing, or an 80s porn director
The more I see these, the more I like them. Could be a fun second car, but wouldnt daily drive it
I just got a granny as well! Dealing with some hvac issues - poor heat… and loud steering pump .. otherwise, it has been a fun car
Hey this is actually very cool looking. I like this vehicle how it looks.
I just got that dreaded "check engine" light. Currenly have 4400 miles; light turned 5 minutes after getting gas. Read in the forums that you shouldn't top off, which I did. I'm not assuming that is my issue, setup an appointment but the dealer requires me to get a loaner, which is available in 2 weeks.
You can just get an OB and reset it yourself I think
@@BenHardyCars have the Innova 3100 but error detected. No new firmware available even after owning this for more than 6 years. I guess I could just go to autozone.
Known issue with MY23.5 and MY23 which is fixed with a software update (over sensitive sensor setting)
@@DD-tc8nd hoping that's the only issue and update will be available soon. I will know more on Monday.
This man just wants to share his thoughts on an awesome car, and everyone wants to talk about his hair/ beard… weird, thanks Ben for sharing your thoughts, I love the Grenadier personally and may end up getting one after your input regarding it :)
Yea i dont get it 😂 wtf does that have to do with the car or its merits or his opinions on his experience? So odd...
Question Ben, would you rather drive this cross country, or the LC250? Which would be more comfortable and less fatiguing?
I like the Grenadier, it's old school in the right way. The only real downside is that BMW shifter. LOL. I like that it makes you use the keys in the old school way and I like the push button to ope the door. I have had keyless entry and push button start forever now and I still hate it.
A few people have changed the shifter for a Toyota Supra model which looks great and matches the utilitarian transfer shifter better. It's a DIY job if you're handy. ruclips.net/video/BOPxAzcPjNc/видео.html
I have been driving a Prius since 2008. Having a push button made sense for this application. Any car now that does the push button is just following the trend. I prefer a key ignition car. I do not like my 4Runner with a push button. It does not feel natural for this vehicle.
“Jesus” thanks for the review
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I was expecting John the Evangelist to make an appearance.
I hate that you're making me start to really like that truck. It looks amazing and super capable. I'm sure it won't last like a Land Cruiser but it looks like a lot of fun.
Seriously, it will laaaaast. The ladder chassis is galvanised and potentially will resist rust for 40 years or more. Most of the panelling is aluminium (again, so that it will stand the test of time). All the components have longevity in mind, even the rubbers are designed to outlast others.
Like my 78 Jeep Cherokee Wagon or my 88 Saab 900s, there are juat some vehiclea that make you giddy. I pick up my Grennie tomorrow and am über giddy!
I would love to own one. Only question I have is who can service it? I think my local bmw dealer mentioned they could service Ineos?
Good keep considering the production has halted for a while. These will be hard to get !!
I’ve only seen 1 here in all black. I recognized it right away. 😂
Do you regret getting rid of the bronco raptor? Do you miss it in the comfort/fun factor? I like the Grenadier I am waiting for them to do a few improvements on it just recently sat in one we had a dealer open about 40 miles away and I like them sitting in one I felt right at home and my comparison is to owning many jeeps including the 392 also owning the bronco raptor which I really enjoy, But in the back of my mind I’m very curious about the Grenadier I will be test driving one soon and if I love it I may purchase one
I don’t miss the Braptor. It’s a cool rig, but super unbalanced.
A lot of you get use to it on this video haha
I’m not into SUVs but this car is very cool
A vehicle tracking straight is not about luxury. My lady’s 2024, $28k, honda acord tracks straight.
Anybody can get used to anything if they have to, but you don’t have to. Not for the price of that vehicle.
Buttons sometimes work and sometimes they don’t. I’m paying that much for a vehicle, i’d expect a more uniform experience than the negatives you describe.
But to each their own. If you love it kudos to you, enjoy
Let us know after you have put 200,000 miles on it. Cost is about 50% higher than new Land Cruiser.
Toyota is scamming the US a little by simply branding that “Land Cruiser” and creating the impression that the legend is returning to your market. THE current Land Cruiser is the LC300.
20 years or so ago, Toyota nailed a strategy to develop a smaller, cheaper, more everyday model from the previous generation Land Cruiser platform and called it a Prado. The Prado strategy has been brilliant and it has been a damn good vehicle and sold really well into a true crossover market with excellent road manners, genuine off-road ability.
However, if you want the larger size and capability, the LC300 costs about 50% more (for the off-road version but more again if you want even more luxury levels) the Grenadier is more in line with LC300 or, if you’re really hard core, a 70 series Land Cruiser that was the pinnacle in the 80’s but still sells well. It costs about the same as the higher spec Prados but you’ll spend a lot more on it to be truly comparable to Grenadier or LC300.
In a market that sells all three Toyotas , nobody calls Prados Land Cruisers. If you did you’d be shouted down with responses like “Mall Crawler”, “Shopping Trolley”, “School Bus” by people who will even concede that they are very good off road.
The Prado should sell really well in the US because it is really good but it’s not an LC300 and 50% more dollars for a Grenadier is about right.
Not sure where you’re getting that figure. Comparing equivalent trims and options, the Grenadier is maybe 14% more. Plus solid axles, and built on a drivetrain platform that is well proven. The new Toyotas are already facing some real issues.
No way - a First Edition is the comparable trim - my Toyota dealer said with their markup and mods to get more clearance, wheels and plates would put me over $100k on the LC - the Grenadier is comparable, if not less
Dood those wheels/tires look awesome! I would keep it exactly like that and not lift it. Is the spare wheel/tire also updated?
No, but the spare tire is larger
I always enjoy watching your videos Ben! Do you finance your vehicles or do you pay cash for them?
I used to finance them, but everything is paid off now.
Grenadier is a cute suv love the Grenadier fun to drive
Wow hand brake huge fan of that😊
Best looking truck
What happened to the Dodge truck you'd bought 3 years ago? I just watched that video and came to this one.
How do you find the legroom inthe back seat? I'm under 6 fe3t and I found it very cramped.
Ben, I love the look and capabilities of these vehicles. Have come very close to purchasing one as well. However, the nagging thought that they may not be around long is very concerning. The company recently announced that their manufacturing plant is closed indefinitely.
Would very much like to hear your thoughts on whether they will be around for long.
The release said they are closed because of a supplier going under. They are fine for now.
How’s the steering compare to the Jeep wrangler?
Grenadier production halted last week. How will they recover from that is still in question
Supply issue
Does it have poor MPG, especially for daily driving? And is there a diesel version? Isn't diesel grenadier cheaper for refueling?
Is get 17mpg with 33s and got almost 20 on the stock tires
I’m approaching 6500miles & have averaged 16mpg. No better or worse. Gulf coast.
Diesel (BMW B57) available in all markets except North America - too bad
The engine warning light/miles issue doesn't exist on MY24. It was an MY23 or MY23.5 issue.
Looks like an old Land Cruiser, or one of the range rovers from Daktari
like it , ineos put utility back into sport utility vehicle , not a 3row luxury family school bus with add wt of every power, tilt,fold luxury car bits
Good review but you couldn’t give me one of those grenadier’s.
Also did you make the mistake of comparing a new vehicle against a 29 year old defender and you were surprised the defender drove like crap.
How do you pass inspection with check engine light in ny
Bumper mount spare tire option to save the door hinges?
Ben, I have a hard time understanding your pronunciation of the first word of the first ???LandCruiser of the two cars you like the best. Could you, please, write it out here for me? TIA
Nice license plate!
Bro needs a stylist. 29 looking like a grandpa wtf lol
I’m not 29 and I have my hair tied back
Claims he doesn’t speed but uses a radar detector.
Snitch
@BenHardyCars - Not sure what's going on, but I've been subscribed to your channel for a long time. Stopped getting your videos and I just noticed that I was somehow unsubscribed. Has this happened to anyone else?
Weird
Hands down this is the coolest looking SUV out there! I wish I could afford one of those!!!
Basically it’s an Isuzu trooper!!!!
my god man this car is cool but an absolute waste
Never heard of one of those.........
Ben how do you miss that edit dawg
I don’t even know
@@BenHardyCars it's ok I still love you
Gettin comfy
The fact you need constant steering input would drive me nuts. Makes for a tiring drive. No thanks.
Steering looks vague af.
You get used to it very quickly
Big problem with these sort of vehicles
At the end of the day one is just driving to the store or whatever
When the novelty wears off then one just doesn’t want to deal with the nonsense and the lousy gas mileage
That is why the 4Runner is so successful it will do most of what this does but still functions as grocery getter and no need to wonder when the check engine light will come knocking again
Enjoy😅
On stock tires I got almost 20mpg
@@magnoliap5824 not really terrible for a naturally aspirated V6 truck
For example the Toyota Highlander V6 with 8 speed wasn’t that much better
The point is it operates a normal “car” every day while still being capable
The ineos puts off-road capability first like an old defender so all this compromise is baked into it
@@joeblack1052 I drive an older Highlander with the v6. Best car I’ve owned.
@@magnoliap5824 the V6 doesn’t get great mpg but they are not terrible like people keep saying
4Runner can do 23 on the highway
you could have used a better example of "better mpg" than the 4runner. It's not clear what you think the nonsense is? The software bug?
You are used to the look, any one seeing it for the first few times are blown away.
Look like a wrangler
The snorkel looks like shit.
I like it
With every video, this dude looks more and more like a homeless guy.
LOL
Things super cool I love them
#millennialcarhandleproblems
Not a fan of the Defender wannabe.
$80K…. And no keyless entry…. 👎
Cool but no thanks.
Grenadier’s are collecting dust on the dealer lot where I live. I hope you didn’t buy an orphan if Ineos goes under.