I've finally heard someone say what I've always thought - more control is not the answer - I've been criticized for giving my horses more freedom - yet that freedom makes calmer, safer, happier horses! Thank you!
I think it’s a give and take when many people don’t want to give them trust. It’s like raising kids, you can’t make them great by managing everything they do, you have to set them up to succeed on their own.
As a fellow introvert, can confirm that when an introvert has had enough, there's no warning, just an explosion. Beautiful animal. I don't know anything about horses, but the training seemed gentle and fair, and even I could see the horse was thinking about things.
I love when you say, we have a responsibility of helping them feel ok too. It’s not just about us feeling like we are in control. It’s all a balance. Thank you Ryan, love that!!
I am neurodivergent and this two part video really helped me connect with how to pay attention to my disabled body and tension that I'm reacting to without knowing it. This is amazing stuff
@@Cwgrlupno need to be nasty about this. Shame. What a horrible world we live in with nasty comments like this to a person that can't help the situation they are in. 😢
In the beginning I noticed that Cisco had his head held very high with pricked ears and eye large. Working in the circle his head was turned away from you, looking out and body stiff. Now his head is lower and he is watching you as he circles. When you were sitting on him his head was lower, standing three legged, chwwing and licking lips, now and then. At one time his eyes were closed and bottom lip hanging limply. Different completely to when you started with him. Thanks for sharing.I live in South Africa and am 83 years old, a granny and have lived with horses on and off through my lifetime.My mounts were even a jersey bull and a marvelous little donkey, named Silver, who always wanted to be in front of my friends on horseback. I have never had a problem horse and all of them seemed to be connected to my thoughts and even predicted where i was wanting to go. I am not one of the horsey club who just use my horse in jumping, showing etc and have no personal relationship with them. My greatest pleasure was to be out in the veld with my horse and my dog, enjoying nature on a quiet outride. They were created by a loving Father, to be part of our lives and to bring us pleasure and love. Great watching your video. IShalom and maranatha!
@@thywordistruth3546 There is always a position offered for a frien, even though it may only be on the ether waves. Just think how perfect God's timing is, to allow the knowledge to increase at this critical time, where he destroyed all knowledge at the Tower of Babylon, as it was not the right time yet.How would we ever know each other , personally as friends, without internet. Shalom and maranatha!
I’ve been riding since I was 4. I’m now 68. Still riding. I’ve always believed being kind and allowing the horse to tell me what they need. Soft slow and build trust is the only way. Your method is right on!!
I love riding horses and owned one for 8 years. However, I never really learned to “speak” horse. Luckily my horse was very patient and a wonderful teacher for me even though he was very young. Watching you really shows me how much my horse was understanding me rather than the other way around. Really interesting video. A study in psychology, not just horsemanship.
I love how you really spent a lot of time just figuring this guy out and trying to really understand what is going on inside his head. I also love that you emphasized that this horse will need a very special rider who is very skilled at reading this guy, catching the subtle signs he gives before he triggers and always having a plan B to prevent him from literally “ flipping out”. I also love that you emphasized this will always be a part of his make up and should always be in back of any rider’s mind. I would love to know how this works out for this cute guy and his owner. Please keep us updated.
And I guarantee at some point, that when this guy flipped over, at some point he was punished for it. Not saying his current owner did that, but someone at some point more than likely did.
Ryan , with each video I watch , I am more impressed with your horsemanship. Thank you for showing people there are positive ways to teach. I contacted you through email asking for help with my horse Hawk who had been in the slaughter pipeline, then starved at a rescue , then scheduled for death the day after I took him. Hawk was terrified of humans , rightfully so . I’ve owned him 3 and a half years now allowing him to feel like he truly has a home . You referred me to McKensey in Mt. Juliet , Tn. I look forward to working with her and will continue to respect and enjoy watching your excellent horsemanship . Please keep up the good work , many horseman no longer stay humble and horses and teaching becomes dollar signs , you are doing great work , thank you ! Maybe one day we can get you to come to Nashville Tn. My husband and I think you are amazing ! Thank you ! Peggy Larimore
Ryan, I wanna thank you for the work you’re doing with all these horses and the way you’re teaching things. You helped me a lot with my own horses and the way I look at them, work with them and see them as a whole. Your perspective on horses is empathetic but very rational at the same time, keep up the great work!
I agree, great balance/understanding but also was super smart by never putting his feet fully into the stirrups on a horse you might need to bail out on.
I love that you film in real time for the most part. I like watching you and the horse’s processes. I am training a horse that can be volatile and I’m always on the lookout for tips from good trainers like you. I like your patience. I’m learning how valuable that is.
Introverts need patience and understanding. Well done Ryan, I understand what you’re doing as I have one and learned so much from developing a partnership with her.
I appreciate how you really get into his head and read him, also you're very gentle with him he seems like a really responsive very nice horse, I would love to see how he gets along with Jake and what the results are.
Thanks for doing these videos Ryan. He’s such a sweet horse. Although, it seems like every horse you work with has this response, of connection & inquisitiveness, because you speak their language. I will never tire of watching you work with horses.
This makes me feel good about my relationship with my horse, he’s far from perfect but we are definitely a team and he trusts me to make good decisions. I trust him to be part of my family. We try not too let each other down.
Really interesting! I also thought he seems rather pleasant on the ground. What I got from your explanation is that the horse would be fairly fine to be ridden by a person who is sensitive enough to geht him (and experienced). So it's not really the horse that is the problem, but it is tricky finding a good human match for him.
It's basically the same as saying more often than not we forget to give the reward or we don't notice it and we don't give the to the pressure that the horse is seeking therefore imposing it negative reinforcement instead of positive
Funny I went out and adopted this mustang for my 10 yr old daughter and as I told everyone ..they said I was crazy that the horse went through many trainers and was incorrigible that the horse hurt people and that I shouldn't do it. Horrible story after story ...Our first day with her she tested me pulled back on cros ties that 1st day and was in my space. But after working with her about 10 days in ...my daughter and her had their first horse show placed high point and everyone thought I was this amazing trainer and wanted me to work with thr horses but I didn't do anything. I just took my time with her and after the first day I made it clear as to what she could not do and she never did it again. like people horses just click more with some thn w others. She and my daughter just got eachother. So it's true sometimes it's about finding the right good human to match.
I had a horse whose default was to rear after going through some trauma at one point in his life. I kept him for 8 years but never knew the tools, nor the people to help me get through it so I finally rehomed him, which felt like a mistake because he bounced around to 6 different places in 9 months before landing at his current place. And for whatever reason, I keep landing these highly introverted horses (maybe it’s my own introversive personality 😆), so finding your channel has been such a helpful and enlightening platform. Gives me the confidence to actually be able to correctly train my current horse and achieve lots of possibilities now. So thank you for being willing and open to having a platform that we can consume and put to use 💙 at some point I’d love to join your patreon.
I love this so much, and I loved to see this Part 2 and that you were able to show that this horse wasn’t “bad”. Kudos to this lady for knowing this horse, reaching out to you and letting/having you show that this horse is worth having and can be a great partner. Makes my heart happy!!
Fabulous episode. I especially loved when you said...its about having a partnership or having a slave. So many people don't understand how beautiful it is to have a partnership with a horse. I see this in my Mustang mare. She would never tolerate being a slave. Neither does this gelding. These are the horses we can learn a ton from, if we take the time. Loved watching all your techniques with him. He's a super lucky horse to have an owner who is willing to expand her horsemanship.
I had an OTTB that blew up bucking on me all the time,and everyone told me to dump him and get a bombproof quarter horse. I loved that horse and never gave up on him. Turned him into a great cutting horse and enjoyed many wonderful adventures including trail rides with him until he passed away. Never give up on a horse- but DO get a qualified trainer to help you when you need help.
I wouldn’t use stirrups! That extra second of getting loose can help you survive! I had a cold cocked mare flip on me, landed on my right ankle. Thank God he healed it for me and I could work the next day in Dallas as a nurse!
I’m from South Africa and spend years on the most wonderful trail rides! Then moved to UK with less opportunity, then I met my dear friend in Farmington Missouri who runs an Arabian Horse school and stables on their farm. A beautiful friendship grew around these horses and we spent many delightful rides and hunts in Missouri. She often rides in other parts like Florida as well. Loved this, your calm and intuitive work the horse is wonderful to see. Thank you!
Thankyou for showing everyone that it takes as long as it takes And recognizing Sisco’s actual emotional state Everything you did was thought provoking and really good learning
Nice evaluation of the situation! Nice care and concern about him (and your safety) :) This is a smart horse! Imagination is the key :) Let's find what's driving him. It would be beautifull to see him getting out of his bubble with Spontaneous movements, Ryhthm, Motivation and Engagement while playing some interesting Puzzled Funny Games/TeamWorks. Will you please do some updates video about him?
I loved how you made a connection with the horse. He is smart and responsive on the ground when it didn't involve moving. When you first moved off with him under saddle,, I couldn't help but notice his reluctance to properly engage his hind legs and he looked thoroughly miserable 80% of the time. I hope the owner will follow your advice. ❤🌹🐴
Agree. Maybe check for lyme disease. He also seems like he isn't processing visual or audio stimuli very easily. He seems to be more assured with touch than anything else.
Professional trainer. The horse was connected to the trainer. The horse is very smart & will need an advanced rider. Really liked watching this trainer. Will watch him again.
11:55 this is so cool. I love literally everything about the method and perfect balance between firm-and softness, pressure & release, the whole psychology. love it.
That was an interesting statement about how different horses handled being bothered and the ones that do nothing are the kid horses. The little mare who taught me to ride changed that behaviour based on who was with her. By the time I was 10ish and getting to be experienced, she let herself be bothered. She made sure I had her head and knew how to sit a pop. My little sister who was 6 at the time? Peanut pusher quiet, same afternoon. Precious cargo onboard.
Thank you for teaching us how to read, communicate and understand better. You are so patient, calm, gentle and intune and I think the horse understood you were interested in him and what he wanted (needed). You being respectful and responsive seemed to help him trust you and want to cooperate. What a smart horse. It was just beautiful and fascinating! I never knew horses could be introverted. That explained so much about the communication breakdown. ❤️
VICKY don’t give up. He’s a beautiful great horse. I don’t remember how long you’ve had him but the more you get him working with you trusting you the better he’ll ride everywhere. After training I would try to make that connection so that he responds lightly to your hands. If he’s comfortable riding outside your round pen or pasture just ride him a little further each time until starts to look uncomfortable then bring him back to comfort. My thought is he may be stressed by new environment. Maybe ride with others where your sure he’s comfortable. Maybe in a round pen or your pasture but as a lesson to see if he can be light and responsive. If he can’t then ride where you feel safe, make sure he will stop and back. I’m 53. I started over with horses after 15 years and it took a good while to learn my horse and trust her and her trust me. Patients is key. You can build this horse into a trail horse or buy one that rides better. I chose to train mine and we grew to like each other. Best wishes!
This illustrates an important point: a horse can be soft and willing on the ground, you can do a lot of ground work with them to get them "perfect", but it doesn't mean they wont be dangerous under saddle. Of course, ground work helps with many things, and is often a great indicator of problems, but its not a guarantee. Some issues are under saddle issues.
I think building a solid relationship on the ground with this horse is key, also. I'd think getting one of those big balls and playing with him would be great for him. I think he feels alone in his head. He needs to be able to trust his people. Just my random opinion. Great job with this fellow. He could have easily ended up in the pipeline.
Wj zijn onder de indruk! Ryan je bent in het observeren en het toepassen van het individu gevoelsmatig en open voor het paard en de eigenaar. Het is een talent van je te herkennen hoe het paard gestrikt is en de eigenaar weer het vertrouwen te kunnen geven in het paard weer te vertrouwen .😇 Te herkennen dat wij willen communiceren met het paard en het zien als partner is mogelijk voor veel ruiters. Wij zijn indoktriniert een paard als gebruiksdier te zien en hebben met jouw nu de mogelijkheid ons tegenover het paard anders te gedragen. Bedankt voor je bezondere manier van inzicht en daarmee dichter bij het paard te komen.
Very good lesson here. I totally agree with what he's saying. We had a grand champion show horse that was so easy to ride but if you tied him & he yanked on it & couldnt move, he would go nuts. We cured him of it by putting a halter with a lead on him but running it in a circle around his back/neck base, up under his arm pits forward & tied to the hitching post. He reared, leaned back with all his might like he was sitting on his haunches. He broke a few leather halters & stretched some nylon halters that he pulled out of. then we found one that worked. He reared up, sat back, & pulled hard. Looked like He couldnt breathe. It broke my heart but we had to leave him until he made up his mind to get up & move forward. It took so long I thot he wld die. But, he gave in, wen he made up his mind to move foward & stop the nonsense, he was cured. He never reared wen tied him after that. Its not always the horse's fault. We bot a buckskin that threw everyone at the ranch it was at. We noticed wen they entered her stall to saddle her up for us, that she kept moving so her butt was facing them. They rode her with a martingale. I told my dtr that the horse didnt like those people. Gorgeous horse. their story how they got her seemed fishy. They wldnt let us take her till my dtr rode her 3 separate occassions in their arena. We took her home and as soon as we walked her thru the gate of our horse area, her head dropped, shoulders relaxed & she was a different horse, very calm. Best horse we EVER had. Never had an issue of ANY kind with her! She would winnie wen an unknown vehicle came on our property same as the dogs were barking. Our "watch horse." So, sometimes you dont kno whats in a horse's past & you really have to pay close attention to the signs they throw.
The minute that she said that the previous owner had been working with him for barrel racing, I suspected as much. Unfortunately, I see a lot of young horses especially in the barrel racing world get rushed. They have a end goal of winning, and not always an end goal of a well balanced horse that is mentally OK. Most of the horses that are bred for barrel racing are very sensitive individuals.
I can't ride anymore because of health issues. My Arabian spooked and bucked one day because another horse spooked and bucked over a mountain lion. I always used Voice commands with her along with cues. When I told her to woah and stand, I couldn't believe she stopped bucking and stood there for me to get off of her. She is a very intelligent Arabian and over the years became a great trail horse. I always believe in getting the bucks out before riding, and have Voice commands in case your bridle breaks, saddle slips, or their foot gets caught in a grape vine. They can panic sometimes under new circumstances and it was a safety net for me to give Voice commands. You have a way with horses by reading them and knowing what they need. Great work!! I enjoyed watching this video!!! Anytime I started a new horse on the trail, I got off and walked them through things too or got off and ran along side them. I think it's a way to connect and bond out there on the trail too. You never know when you have to walk for miles to get back home. The rider should be in just as good of shape as the horse.
I have to disagree with you. But that doesn’t mean that dismounting can be a solution for some horses. I just trained a spooky horses that was always dismounted. As a result the horse associated dismounting with there is an issue.
@@shelm-b8p True! I had to think fast because I had a rider with me on a horse that was not a good match for him. I needed to dismount fast to help him. Sometimes conditions are not always right for riding. I tried to tell them it wasn't a good day to ride. We had wind and leaves blowing along with a mountain lion to deal with. He was a green rider on a horse that was green. A great combination for a fail.
I'm always surprised when horse trainers (particularly men, but also many women) never think to communicate directly with the horse via their minds. It is so so easy! And the results can be amazing. Communication happens within seconds and you can find out whatever you want to know about what issues they have, what they do and don't like, what scares them and if they have any painful health problems that maybe cause them spasms in their muscles, stiffness, sudden nerve pain etc, all of which could result in them bucking, rearing or jinxing. Stand quietly with the horse, ask them to communicate with your mind, put your hand on them and calmly ask silent questions. The first reply you get in your mind is what the horse is telling you. Keep asking questions calmly and kindly. The horse will tell you what they want to tell you. Then continue the conversation while in the saddle. Think what you would like to do with the horse, request him to do it and give gentle signals towards it. Praise him and say he got it right, or explain that's not what you wanted and show him a mental picture to go with the signals you are giving. Then try again. Repeat a few times until he gets the connection. Give it a try before doing anything else. I promise you won't regret it.
I love this video series Ryan. I truly wish the best for this horse and his rider i would love to know they worked this out. Beautiful boy just misunderdtood. Thank you Ryan.
RYAN I LOST MY SISTER TO CANCER IN JULY & THERE WAS EVEN WORSE. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HEAL MYSELF TIL BY NO COINCIDENCE A LONG TIME NEIGHBOR TOLD ME ABOUT A PLACE WITH HORSES & OTHER FARM ANIMALS.. MY LOVES SINCE I WAS ABOUT 5YRS OLD. NOT A TRAINER BY NO MEANS BUT ANIMALS DO TAKE TO ME, THESE HORSES ARE DOING THINGS FOR ME THAT ARE AMAZING BY JUST ASKING. ONE WILL STICK HIS TOUNGE OUT, ONE PUTS HIS HEAD DOWN IF ASHAMED LOL, ONE SHAKES HIS HEAD YES IF HE WANTS A TREAT...& I GOT FOLLOWED FROM ONE PASTURE TO ANOTHER, ALL BY HIMSELF JUST TO GIVE AFFECTION WHILE I WAS BY A MINI BULL & PONIES B4 I WENT HOME. I BRING A BUCKET WITH WATER WHEN THEIR SOURCES CHANGED & NOW THEY FIGURED THOSE OUT BUT THIS IS STILL A BONDING THING NOW. I LEAVE FAR BETTER THAN WHEN I CAME, HEART FULL & THE INFAMOUS HORSE SMELL MY DOG IS HAPPY ABOUT WHEN I GET HOME TOO. I CAN READ THEIR PERSONALITIES NOW & SENSED A CHANGE IN ONE, ISOLATED & LOOKING SO SAD. TURNS OUT HIS OWNER HAD A STROKE & HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE HIM. SHE HAD TOLD ME HE DIDN'T CARE FOR ANY TREATS BUT TAKES THEM FROM ME & LET ME GET HIS LEG OUT OF TWO LINES OF FENCE. I WISH YOU COULD SEE MY PICTURES & VIDEOS. I'M IN WI AS WELL. ALL I KNOW IS I'M AWARE OF THEIR SIZE & DANGERS & DON'T FORGET THAT. I HAD BRUSHED ONE MARE THAT LIFTED HER LEG, EYES CLOSING & THOUGH SHE WAS GONNA GO FURTHER IN THE HAY BIN. I GET LOTS OF BLOW OUTS LOL & I COULDN'T BE HEALING LIKE I AM IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM. 🐴
She seems like a wonderful horse owner. I really hope the two of them can learn to understand one another, so they can end up going on safe rides together in the future. It's a very beautiful horse, with an interesting personality. Glad there's men like you and Jake to help her and the horse learn ways to communicate well with each other. Happy trails!!
You are a great trainer. You do a wonderful job of improving what ever someone brings you. My comment is for the owner. Cut your loses and get a horse that you can enjoy. one that wants to be around you and every day is a joy. You will have to tip toe around this horse the rest of his life. I'm sorry to be so blunt.
That might be good advice for this rider, but on the other hand, we have no information on how experienced and skillful she is. She may be fine with this horse. But even is she isn't, and chooses to sell, horse's fate will be much better if training resolves this issue.
Thank you so much fo this video and hopefully a lot of people with similar horses see it. 30 years ago a friend of mine bought a mare who used to flip over with the previous owner. Taking herself a lot of time, she found out her horse had back problems, a very sensible mouth, hated most of the men and wouldn't accept riders which she didn't personally like. So she did flips as the fastest way to get rid of unsecure or unjust riders, when they treated her harsh or with too much pressure, especially in the mouth. She was very beautiful, had a lot of go and could move around and speed up incredibly fast. Finally we were 4 women who could ride her without ever having rearing problems, always light in the back and with "two fingers" on the reins. Unfortunately the friend sold her for nearly no money as a non rideable company horse. She suddenly had urgent money and other troubles, and in panic, with an emergency decision she wanted to find a good place but had no time to search or control the new place. The guy (😭) told her she would will be companion for a breeding mare he has and she will never have to carry a rider again, just be horse on the pastures with other horses - sounded (too) perfect ... After half a year the girl who also rode her finally had the strength and wanted to visit her, but she found out the horse got slaughtered within 6 weeks😭. The guy was a trader and of course wanted to sell this nice mare for much more money. But his money making dream died , after 2 of his trainers ended up with with broken bones and the second even in hospital with severe injuries in the back, because of the little beauty flipping over... It broke my heart, I couldn't afford another horse as I already had my own two horses (already one too much for my budget 🙈) and the mare was always my big boy's favourite girl...
I love this horse! I have one like him. An absolute angel on the ground but he does like to rear when he gets stressed under saddle. I found it interesting when you mentioned the thresholds and how the horse marches down the trail. Mine is easily the fastest walker on trails. He really marches and he's very sensitive. You don't have to ask him to go. He hasn't flipped (thankfully) but I still consider him too dangerous to place into another home. He'll stay with me for the rest of his days. Great video!
That is cool Ryan. I have ridden and broke many horses myself. Flippers need a rider who can control the situation. I agree with how you are teaching the owner.
Such a beautiful horse. I wish l had this knowledge when I was working with my horse ( from years ago). I like your approach in working with horses with various behavioral problems and addressing the issues and working with the horse and not trying to just control the horse.
I’d love to see a part 3, where another horse walks away and he has to stand still. I have the same problem. As long as we’re alone we’re good, but if she cant go with others I’m with, she rears. I’ve learned a lot today. Thank you!
I would have never thought of a horse being an introvert...... you completely blew me away with that. But your so right! Wow Thanks Ryan. Your truly amazing!
This sweet boy just needs a big dose of confidence. Lots and lots of groundwork including "play" activities and perhaps some trick training, in-hand obstacles, and liberty work. Get that real trust and connection going. Right now it looks mostly, like Ryan said, "obedience". He's even insecure with his stress releases... those "subtle" lick and chews.
I have just started watching your videos and I really like what you do with them. I like the figuring out part of what might be going on with them. You are so patient with them.
I really enjoyed this video. I've had problems with horses riding fine and then suddenly bucking hard enough to get me off.in each instance after pulling blood work on the horse and there was a vitamin E and selenium deficiency. After giving a supplement and changing to an excruded feed the problem was solved. I live in PA and our soil is deficient in those things.
Maybe check for lyme disease. He does seem like he may be in some pain. He also seems like he isn't processing visual or audio stimuli very easily. He seems to be more assured with physical touch than anything else, even if it's just a rope while working on the ground (once he figures out what you want)..
It probably wouldn't hurt to use a loose martingale with this horse for safety's sake. I had a horse, years ago that reared quite often in the early years, although he never toppled over on me. Initially, I used the martingale to keep his head down to a point, since he was so much stronger than I was/am. Once he learned to keep his front feet on the ground, I traded the bit and saddle for a hackamore and bear back pads and we spent the last 10 years of our riding days together with minimal gear, riding the trails with or without other riders. We probably put 10,000 miles on each other, throughout our adventures together. My sweet horse turned out to be a kitten in disguise. It takes time, patience, and trust to bring out the qualities of a fine horse. I absolutely love the gentle techniques that Ryan uses and the respect that he shows for the horse ... the makings of an excellent horse trainer, for sure!
Horses rear and go over for different reasons. I'm curious to know the rider's and other trainer's response to him rearing. Did they continue to hang on the reins? Did they lean back? Why did the horse go over backwards? How did they respond to the rearing? Where was the rider's weight? I was working for someone who ran a summer camp and had a large pony who was rearing in response to the 18 year old son viciously jerking/yanking on the mare's mouth and then leaning back, worsening the problem. After observing this a few times, it was easy to see the problem and I got on to see how she'd respond to removing the pressure off her mouth and leaning forward. She immediately quit rearing when she found I wouldn't jerk on her mouth and trotted off just fine. I explained to the son what he needed to stop doing - mainly stop yanking on her mouth. If he never yanked on her mouth, she wouldn't rear. There was really nothing wrong with the poor pony except the pain he inflicted on her. She was a good, well broke trustworthy pony, would follow in a trail ride and stop and start; no spooking or running off - but the son seemed to enjoy making a "rearing trick pony" out of her - dangerous for everyone who didn't know how to ride. The problem probably could have been fixed with a hackamore or bosal, too, but if he'd have continued to jerk on her like that, I think there still would have been a problem. Not sure if they kept her. She would have been fantastic for a small adult who knew how to ride. I hope she ended up with better owners and not at the glue factory. It never ceases to amaze me how a young adult, raised with horses, and supposedly learned how to train all of their ponies, can pick up such bad habits and create their own nightmare problems. He had to know at some level he was training that pony to rear when he did it a number of times in a row. *SMH*. I'm glad you and your horse finally got the "kinks" worked out and were able to enjoy each other's company for so long. This little pony could have made someone the same wonderful companion.
No. Martingales are just crutches and give a false sense of security. They don't teach the horse anything other than that you are trying to control them, through pain, rather than work with them. And a horse needs to be able to use it's head to assess it's surroundings. And a horse that can flip with their head bent, as the owner said happened, can flip with a martingale just as easy.
@@Fuzzybudget I was also wondering that. Wondered if the same bitting arrangement was used for both that first trainer and the rider. She said that she rode with a snaffle, but not clear if that was what was used the first time she tried him.
You give the horse a reason to trust you. I love that. Trainers who only want control, don't have trust, the horse won't trust them and the rider can never trust the horse.
So exciting to see the owner and you taking the time with this really good horse! I have one who not only looks just like him but has in the past, acted in a similar manner. The nervous introverted ness. Even tho I was told to get rid of him, he was dangerous, I persisted and we are really good riding buddies now. Love him to pieces.
He needs to learn to move out with confidence, and a trainer who can establish the channels of communication and trust, on the ground and in the saddle. When the owner said putting the halter on was like putting one on a giraffe I knew she's not experienced in establishing good, safe, working behaviors with this horse. Can only imagine what the last trainer did since the horse has obviously not been worked on lateral lunging and off line in the round pen which when done well, teaches a horse to move his feet and read and trust the trainer. This is a sensitive and wary horse. Ryan, you did a good job getting a feel on him and opening up communication and trust. It's such a beautiful thing to see the communication and trust established. So sad that so many people just don't know. And God knows I've made plenty of mistakes with my horses. It's an education for human and animal.
This really hits home with me.! Years ago I road a newly acquired ranch horse. I road the horse all day but went slow and he did great. When jumping a ditch he lunged in an over jump. . This horse would rear and throw itself anytime the men tried to ride him. I’ve seen this in loco horses and he may have been. I did not see signs of this in the horse you are working with but I did detect a bit of fear at the start.
When he's going clockwise he's looking away from where you are. But when he goes counter clockwise he looks at you. He seems focused elsewhere. I love buckskins.
When I had a horse that reared, she put me in the hospital for two nights. Then I taught her to rear on command. You know, rearing 10 times in a row just isn't as fun as it looks like it would be. I think your method would have helped her get through the intervening years. But it wasn't all bad, she was my daughter's babysitter. Sometimes the toughest ones are the best in the long run, but I'm too old to do that over again!
I particularly enjoyed the mention of horses who stop at a creek, then make the surprising decision that it's a lava flow and make a spectacular leap to keep us both safe from that churning fire below. 😆At 14, that's how I learned to ride on my green mustang's head and neck. Regardless of what the other riders said, if you can work your way back into your seat without touching the ground, you should get full credit for a jump as far as I'm concerned. (If anyone has a thought about why a horse that crosses a creek several times a day in it's own pasture suddenly views that creek as something that needs to be jumped when a rider climbs aboard, I'm all ears.)
I agree w all the comments ‼️ He's a great 🐎, just gotta find out why he's so into his head ❣️ I hope u don't give up on him but I would understand. A back 🐎💫out of nowhere is scary. Best of luck ❣️✌️
I've finally heard someone say what I've always thought - more control is not the answer - I've been criticized for giving my horses more freedom - yet that freedom makes calmer, safer, happier horses! Thank you!
100%!
I think it’s a give and take when many people don’t want to give them trust. It’s like raising kids, you can’t make them great by managing everything they do, you have to set them up to succeed on their own.
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Oh absolutely.
Yes and persons too
As a fellow introvert, can confirm that when an introvert has had enough, there's no warning, just an explosion. Beautiful animal. I don't know anything about horses, but the training seemed gentle and fair, and even I could see the horse was thinking about things.
Hmm... introverted or not, that behaviour sounds more like anxiety. Not confident to communicate wishes and then they find a way to come out...
I love when you say, we have a responsibility of helping them feel ok too. It’s not just about us feeling like we are in control. It’s all a balance. Thank you Ryan, love that!!
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That's what life is about balance....✌️💗
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I am neurodivergent and this two part video really helped me connect with how to pay attention to my disabled body and tension that I'm reacting to without knowing it. This is amazing stuff
This has zero to do with horse training.
@@Cwgrlupummmm….it’s all “behaviour”, surely, and behaviour within an environment ? So IMHO, this person’s comment is completely valid.
@@lizarutherford2477 I totally agree with you on this.
@@Cwgrlupno need to be nasty about this. Shame. What a horrible world we live in with nasty comments like this to a person that can't help the situation they are in. 😢
@@CwgrlupIt has a lot to do with horse training. It’s called empathy. Unfortunately for you it’s not something that can be taught.
In the beginning I noticed that Cisco had his head held very high with pricked ears and eye large. Working in the circle his head was turned away from you, looking out and body stiff. Now his head is lower and he is watching you as he circles. When you were sitting on him his head was lower, standing three legged, chwwing and licking lips, now and then. At one time his eyes were closed and bottom lip hanging limply. Different completely to when you started with him. Thanks for sharing.I live in South Africa and am 83 years old, a granny and have lived with horses on and off through my lifetime.My mounts were even a jersey bull and a marvelous little donkey, named Silver, who always wanted to be in front of my friends on horseback. I have never had a problem horse and all of them seemed to be connected to my thoughts and even predicted where i was wanting to go. I am not one of the horsey club who just use my horse in jumping, showing etc and have no personal relationship with them. My greatest pleasure was to be out in the veld with my horse and my dog, enjoying nature on a quiet outride. They were created by a loving Father, to be part of our lives and to bring us pleasure and love. Great watching your video. IShalom and maranatha!
I so “connect” with you in the spirit!! Wish I had a friend like you!
@@thywordistruth3546 There is always a position offered for a frien, even though it may only be on the ether waves. Just think how perfect God's timing is, to allow the knowledge to increase at this critical time, where he destroyed all knowledge at the Tower of Babylon, as it was not the right time yet.How would we ever know each other , personally as friends, without internet. Shalom and maranatha!
And to you.
I’ve been riding since I was 4. I’m now 68. Still riding. I’ve always believed being kind and allowing the horse to tell me what they need. Soft slow and build trust is the only way. Your method is right on!!
I love riding horses and owned one for 8 years. However, I never really learned to “speak” horse. Luckily my horse was very patient and a wonderful teacher for me even though he was very young. Watching you really shows me how much my horse was understanding me rather than the other way around. Really interesting video. A study in psychology, not just horsemanship.
The care and compassion you have with horses is awesome. I’m sure this horse will be a better horse because of you.
Thanks for helping this poor misunderstood guy. Would love to see an update on his progress
Update please!
I love how you really spent a lot of time just figuring this guy out and trying to really understand what is going on inside his head. I also love that you emphasized that this horse will need a very special rider who is very skilled at reading this guy, catching the subtle signs he gives before he triggers and always having a plan B to prevent him from literally “ flipping out”. I also love that you emphasized this will always be a part of his make up and should always be in back of any rider’s mind. I would love to know how this works out for this cute guy and his owner. Please keep us updated.
Same here!! Echo everything you just said. And this guy is so worth saving!
And I guarantee at some point, that when this guy flipped over, at some point he was punished for it. Not saying his current owner did that, but someone at some point more than likely did.
My name is Jasmine I love
Ryan , with each video I watch , I am more impressed with your horsemanship.
Thank you for showing people there are positive ways to teach.
I contacted you through email asking for help with my horse Hawk who had been in the slaughter pipeline, then starved at a rescue , then scheduled for death the day after I took him. Hawk was terrified of humans , rightfully so .
I’ve owned him 3 and a half years now allowing him to feel like he truly has a home .
You referred me to McKensey in Mt. Juliet , Tn. I look forward to working with her and will continue to respect and enjoy watching your excellent horsemanship . Please keep up the good work , many horseman no longer stay humble and horses and teaching becomes dollar signs , you are doing great work , thank you !
Maybe one day we can get you to come to Nashville Tn.
My husband and I think you are amazing !
Thank you !
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I can hear this horse saying, “At last! Someone understands me!”
Ryan, I wanna thank you for the work you’re doing with all these horses and the way you’re teaching things. You helped me a lot with my own horses and the way I look at them, work with them and see them as a whole. Your perspective on horses is empathetic but very rational at the same time, keep up the great work!
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I agree, great balance/understanding but also was super smart by never putting his feet fully into the stirrups on a horse you might need to bail out on.
I love that you film in real time for the most part. I like watching you and the horse’s processes. I am training a horse that can be volatile and I’m always on the lookout for tips from good trainers like you. I like your patience. I’m learning how valuable that is.
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You know you honored the horse when there’s no dirt on your shirt at the end of your session. Ryan did a great job of keeping his shirt clean 😜👍
This horse has the cutest little introverted lick and chew. I totally adore him!
I had a horse like him when I was a teenager. She ended up being one of the best horses I ever had. She passed away of old age; I still miss her.
Introverts need patience and understanding. Well done Ryan, I understand what you’re doing as I have one and learned so much from developing a partnership with her.
I have not met a introverted horse, that’s just me, so yes I agree it takes a seasoned horseman to home in on this guy 😊🥰
Not sure I’d recognize introversion in a horse, since I am so introverted myself.
I appreciate how you really get into his head and read him, also you're very gentle with him he seems like a really responsive very nice horse, I would love to see how he gets along with Jake and what the results are.
Thanks for doing these videos Ryan.
He’s such a sweet horse.
Although, it seems like every horse you work with has this response, of connection & inquisitiveness, because you speak their language.
I will never tire of watching you work with horses.
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SO good, Ryan. I love what you're doing for "problem horses," and their humans. So savvy, so empathic, just so so good.
Beautiful horse. The tone of this trainer is so calming I found myself relax too!!
Great video and content! He’s a beautiful horse indeed & I love the fact that she’s willing to work more with her horse and get him more training.
This makes me feel good about my relationship with my horse, he’s far from perfect but we are definitely a team and he trusts me to make good decisions. I trust him to be part of my family. We try not too let each other down.
You make hard work look easy. I'm glad you are putting yourself out there to help others help their equines to be safe and safe to be around
This horse has stolen my heart.... He is so gently training you 🥰
Ryan, your gentle kindness is so comforting,❣️
Really interesting! I also thought he seems rather pleasant on the ground. What I got from your explanation is that the horse would be fairly fine to be ridden by a person who is sensitive enough to geht him (and experienced). So it's not really the horse that is the problem, but it is tricky finding a good human match for him.
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It's basically the same as saying more often than not we forget to give the reward or we don't notice it and we don't give the to the pressure that the horse is seeking therefore imposing it negative reinforcement instead of positive
Funny I went out and adopted this mustang for my 10 yr old daughter and as I told everyone ..they said I was crazy that the horse went through many trainers and was incorrigible that the horse hurt people and that I shouldn't do it. Horrible story after story ...Our first day with her she tested me pulled back on cros ties that 1st day and was in my space. But after working with her about 10 days in ...my daughter and her had their first horse show placed high point and everyone thought I was this amazing trainer and wanted me to work with thr horses but I didn't do anything. I just took my time with her and after the first day I made it clear as to what she could not do and she never did it again. like people horses just click more with some thn w others. She and my daughter just got eachother. So it's true sometimes it's about finding the right good human to match.
I had a horse whose default was to rear after going through some trauma at one point in his life. I kept him for 8 years but never knew the tools, nor the people to help me get through it so I finally rehomed him, which felt like a mistake because he bounced around to 6 different places in 9 months before landing at his current place. And for whatever reason, I keep landing these highly introverted horses (maybe it’s my own introversive personality 😆), so finding your channel has been such a helpful and enlightening platform. Gives me the confidence to actually be able to correctly train my current horse and achieve lots of possibilities now. So thank you for being willing and open to having a platform that we can consume and put to use 💙 at some point I’d love to join your patreon.
It is the owners responsibility to make your horse feel safe ! Show him you love him and will protect him. Give him a lot of pets ,hugs and kisses .
It’s just wonderful to watch the communication start to take place between you both. Patiently, calmly and slowly the language develops.
I love this so much, and I loved to see this Part 2 and that you were able to show that this horse wasn’t “bad”. Kudos to this lady for knowing this horse, reaching out to you and letting/having you show that this horse is worth having and can be a great partner. Makes my heart happy!!
Fabulous episode. I especially loved when you said...its about having a partnership or having a slave. So many people don't understand how beautiful it is to have a partnership with a horse. I see this in my Mustang mare. She would never tolerate being a slave. Neither does this gelding. These are the horses we can learn a ton from, if we take the time. Loved watching all your techniques with him. He's a super lucky horse to have an owner who is willing to expand her horsemanship.
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I had an OTTB that blew up bucking on me all the time,and everyone told me to dump him and get a bombproof quarter horse. I loved that horse and never gave up on him. Turned him into a great cutting horse and enjoyed many wonderful adventures including trail rides with him until he passed away. Never give up on a horse- but DO get a qualified trainer to help you when you need help.
I’ve been waiting for this 2nd part!
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I wouldn’t use stirrups! That extra second of getting loose can help you survive! I had a cold cocked mare flip on me, landed on my right ankle. Thank God he healed it for me and I could work the next day in Dallas as a nurse!
It is so heart warming to see someone demonstrate that horses talk/communicate to us and with us, if we just pay attention and listen.
I’m from South Africa and spend years on the most wonderful trail rides! Then moved to UK with less opportunity, then I met my dear friend in Farmington Missouri who runs an Arabian Horse school and stables on their farm. A beautiful friendship grew around these horses and we spent many delightful rides and hunts in Missouri. She often rides in other parts like Florida as well. Loved this, your calm and intuitive work the horse is wonderful to see. Thank you!
Thankyou for showing everyone that it takes as long as it takes
And recognizing Sisco’s actual emotional state
Everything you did was thought provoking and really good learning
I feel horses like this are such amazing learning opportunities. They can teach us so much.
Nice evaluation of the situation! Nice care and concern about him (and your safety) :)
This is a smart horse!
Imagination is the key :) Let's find what's driving him.
It would be beautifull to see him getting out of his bubble with Spontaneous movements, Ryhthm, Motivation and Engagement while playing some interesting Puzzled Funny Games/TeamWorks.
Will you please do some updates video about him?
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As long as he has one ear on the trainer even while he's relaxing means he is still listening and waiting for the trainer to ask him to do something.
I loved how you made a connection with the horse. He is smart and responsive on the ground when it didn't involve moving. When you first moved off with him under saddle,, I couldn't help but notice his reluctance to properly engage his hind legs and he looked thoroughly miserable 80% of the time. I hope the owner will follow your advice. ❤🌹🐴
I agree. He seems in pain.
Agree. Maybe check for lyme disease. He also seems like he isn't processing visual or audio stimuli very easily. He seems to be more assured with touch than anything else.
Professional trainer. The horse was connected to the trainer. The horse is very smart & will need an advanced rider. Really liked watching this trainer. Will watch him again.
11:55 this is so cool. I love literally everything about the method and perfect balance between firm-and softness, pressure & release, the whole psychology. love it.
That was an interesting statement about how different horses handled being bothered and the ones that do nothing are the kid horses. The little mare who taught me to ride changed that behaviour based on who was with her. By the time I was 10ish and getting to be experienced, she let herself be bothered. She made sure I had her head and knew how to sit a pop. My little sister who was 6 at the time? Peanut pusher quiet, same afternoon. Precious cargo onboard.
Thank you for teaching us how to read, communicate and understand better. You are so patient, calm, gentle and intune and I think the horse understood you were interested in him and what he wanted (needed). You being respectful and responsive seemed to help him trust you and want to cooperate. What a smart horse. It was just beautiful and fascinating! I never knew horses could be introverted. That explained so much about the communication breakdown. ❤️
“Do you want a slave or so you want a partner?” Exactly.
I love that you went slow and were able to help him.
VICKY don’t give up. He’s a beautiful great horse. I don’t remember how long you’ve had him but the more you get him working with you trusting you the better he’ll ride everywhere. After training I would try to make that connection so that he responds lightly to your hands. If he’s comfortable riding outside your round pen or pasture just ride him a little further each time until starts to look uncomfortable then bring him back to comfort. My thought is he may be stressed by new environment. Maybe ride with others where your sure he’s comfortable. Maybe in a round pen or your pasture but as a lesson to see if he can be light and responsive. If he can’t then ride where you feel safe, make sure he will stop and back. I’m 53. I started over with horses after 15 years and it took a good while to learn my horse and trust her and her trust me. Patients is key. You can build this horse into a trail horse or buy one that rides better. I chose to train mine and we grew to like each other. Best wishes!
This illustrates an important point: a horse can be soft and willing on the ground, you can do a lot of ground work with them to get them "perfect", but it doesn't mean they wont be dangerous under saddle. Of course, ground work helps with many things, and is often a great indicator of problems, but its not a guarantee. Some issues are under saddle issues.
I have not had horses since I was a kid. But I can see the horse get so relaxed when you are getting him to understand what you want.
Ryan, what nice, soft, educated hands you have. It's a pleasure watching you work.
I think building a solid relationship on the ground with this horse is key, also. I'd think getting one of those big balls and playing with him would be great for him. I think he feels alone in his head. He needs to be able to trust his people. Just my random opinion. Great job with this fellow. He could have easily ended up in the pipeline.
Agree he’s in his head. I would do the same thing :)
I agree, I use a big green Ball and big tall cone, with my horses, the relationship is very important. To build trust
I think that's a great idea!
I agree. Getting him to play w/the ball w/or w/out you will help him relax & gain his trust.
By pipeline you mean glue factory
Wj zijn onder de indruk! Ryan je bent in het observeren en het toepassen van het individu gevoelsmatig en open voor het paard en de eigenaar. Het is een talent van je te herkennen hoe het paard gestrikt is en de eigenaar weer het vertrouwen te kunnen geven in het paard weer te vertrouwen .😇 Te herkennen dat wij willen communiceren met het paard en het zien als partner is mogelijk voor veel ruiters.
Wij zijn indoktriniert een paard als gebruiksdier te zien en hebben met jouw nu de mogelijkheid
ons tegenover het paard anders te gedragen. Bedankt voor je bezondere manier van inzicht en daarmee dichter bij het paard te komen.
Very good lesson here. I totally agree with what he's saying. We had a grand champion show horse that was so easy to ride but if you tied him & he yanked on it & couldnt move, he would go nuts. We cured him of it by putting a halter with a lead on him but running it in a circle around his back/neck base, up under his arm pits forward & tied to the hitching post. He reared, leaned back with all his might like he was sitting on his haunches. He broke a few leather halters & stretched some nylon halters that he pulled out of. then we found one that worked. He reared up, sat back, & pulled hard. Looked like He couldnt breathe. It broke my heart but we had to leave him until he made up his mind to get up & move forward. It took so long I thot he wld die. But, he gave in, wen he made up his mind to move foward & stop the nonsense, he was cured. He never reared wen tied him after that. Its not always the horse's fault. We bot a buckskin that threw everyone at the ranch it was at. We noticed wen they entered her stall to saddle her up for us, that she kept moving so her butt was facing them. They rode her with a martingale. I told my dtr that the horse didnt like those people. Gorgeous horse. their story how they got her seemed fishy. They wldnt let us take her till my dtr rode her 3 separate occassions in their arena. We took her home and as soon as we walked her thru the gate of our horse area, her head dropped, shoulders relaxed & she was a different horse, very calm. Best horse we EVER had. Never had an issue of ANY kind with her! She would winnie wen an unknown vehicle came on our property same as the dogs were barking. Our "watch horse." So, sometimes you dont kno whats in a horse's past & you really have to pay close attention to the signs they throw.
Discharge of stressors... sigh, shaking, blowing air, big or little is it safe for him to communicate/say.
He's a different horse, Ryan. He was rushed as a colt with too much pressure. He's completely into you!
The minute that she said that the previous owner had been working with him for barrel racing, I suspected as much. Unfortunately, I see a lot of young horses especially in the barrel racing world get rushed. They have a end goal of winning, and not always an end goal of a well balanced horse that is mentally OK. Most of the horses that are bred for barrel racing are very sensitive individuals.
I can't ride anymore because of health issues. My Arabian spooked and bucked one day because another horse spooked and bucked over a mountain lion. I always used Voice commands with her along with cues. When I told her to woah and stand, I couldn't believe she stopped bucking and stood there for me to get off of her. She is a very intelligent Arabian and over the years became a great trail horse. I always believe in getting the bucks out before riding, and have Voice commands in case your bridle breaks, saddle slips, or their foot gets caught in a grape vine. They can panic sometimes under new circumstances and it was a safety net for me to give Voice commands. You have a way with horses by reading them and knowing what they need. Great work!! I enjoyed watching this video!!! Anytime I started a new horse on the trail, I got off and walked them through things too or got off and ran along side them. I think it's a way to connect and bond out there on the trail too. You never know when you have to walk for miles to get back home. The rider should be in just as good of shape as the horse.
I have to disagree with you. But that doesn’t mean that dismounting can be a solution for some horses. I just trained a spooky horses that was always dismounted. As a result the horse associated dismounting with there is an issue.
@@shelm-b8p True! I had to think fast because I had a rider with me on a horse that was not a good match for him. I needed to dismount fast to help him. Sometimes conditions are not always right for riding. I tried to tell them it wasn't a good day to ride. We had wind and leaves blowing along with a mountain lion to deal with. He was a green rider on a horse that was green. A great combination for a fail.
I'm always surprised when horse trainers (particularly men, but also many women) never think to communicate directly with the horse via their minds. It is so so easy! And the results can be amazing. Communication happens within seconds and you can find out whatever you want to know about what issues they have, what they do and don't like, what scares them and if they have any painful health problems that maybe cause them spasms in their muscles, stiffness, sudden nerve pain etc, all of which could result in them bucking, rearing or jinxing.
Stand quietly with the horse, ask them to communicate with your mind, put your hand on them and calmly ask silent questions. The first reply you get in your mind is what the horse is telling you. Keep asking questions calmly and kindly. The horse will tell you what they want to tell you.
Then continue the conversation while in the saddle. Think what you would like to do with the horse, request him to do it and give gentle signals towards it. Praise him and say he got it right, or explain that's not what you wanted and show him a mental picture to go with the signals you are giving. Then try again. Repeat a few times until he gets the connection.
Give it a try before doing anything else. I promise you won't regret it.
Loved watching part 1 & 2! Excellent horsemanship, amazing to watch and learn. Thank you! Subscribed and looking forward to watching more videos
I always called my emergency dismounts “my osteoporosis check for the year”.
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I too have osteoporosis
Hey horse hasn’t tested my bones
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Testing myself!😂
Horses know you have listened many times to their kind. They know you are asking them politely and that you have a sure plan for them. Just beautiful.
I love this video series Ryan. I truly wish the best for this horse and his rider i would love to know they worked this out. Beautiful boy just misunderdtood. Thank you Ryan.
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RYAN I LOST MY SISTER TO CANCER IN JULY & THERE WAS EVEN WORSE. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HEAL MYSELF TIL BY NO COINCIDENCE A LONG TIME NEIGHBOR TOLD ME ABOUT A PLACE WITH HORSES & OTHER FARM ANIMALS.. MY LOVES SINCE I WAS ABOUT 5YRS OLD. NOT A TRAINER BY NO MEANS BUT ANIMALS DO TAKE TO ME, THESE HORSES ARE DOING THINGS FOR ME THAT ARE AMAZING BY JUST ASKING. ONE WILL STICK HIS TOUNGE OUT, ONE PUTS HIS HEAD DOWN IF ASHAMED LOL, ONE SHAKES HIS HEAD YES IF HE WANTS A TREAT...& I GOT FOLLOWED FROM ONE PASTURE TO ANOTHER, ALL BY HIMSELF JUST TO GIVE AFFECTION WHILE I WAS BY A MINI BULL & PONIES B4 I WENT HOME. I BRING A BUCKET WITH WATER WHEN THEIR SOURCES CHANGED & NOW THEY FIGURED THOSE OUT BUT THIS IS STILL A BONDING THING NOW. I LEAVE FAR BETTER THAN WHEN I CAME, HEART FULL & THE INFAMOUS HORSE SMELL MY DOG IS HAPPY ABOUT WHEN I GET HOME TOO. I CAN READ THEIR PERSONALITIES NOW & SENSED A CHANGE IN ONE, ISOLATED & LOOKING SO SAD. TURNS OUT HIS OWNER HAD A STROKE & HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE HIM. SHE HAD TOLD ME HE DIDN'T CARE FOR ANY TREATS BUT TAKES THEM FROM ME & LET ME GET HIS LEG OUT OF TWO LINES OF FENCE. I WISH YOU COULD SEE MY PICTURES & VIDEOS. I'M IN WI AS WELL. ALL I KNOW IS I'M AWARE OF THEIR SIZE & DANGERS & DON'T FORGET THAT. I HAD BRUSHED ONE MARE THAT LIFTED HER LEG, EYES CLOSING & THOUGH SHE WAS GONNA GO FURTHER IN THE HAY BIN. I GET LOTS OF BLOW OUTS LOL & I COULDN'T BE HEALING LIKE I AM IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM. 🐴
She seems like a wonderful horse owner. I really hope the two of them can learn to understand one another, so they can end up going on safe rides together in the future. It's a very beautiful horse, with an interesting personality. Glad there's men like you and Jake to help her and the horse learn ways to communicate well with each other. Happy trails!!
Huh? She seems a lousy owner - she's the problem, not the horse.
Sisco seems like such a beautiful horse. 💗 Great work Ryan 👏 👍 teaching him and us! 🙂
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You are a great trainer. You do a wonderful job of improving what ever someone brings you. My comment is for the owner. Cut your loses and get a horse that you can enjoy. one that wants to be around you and every day is a joy. You will have to tip toe around this horse the rest of his life. I'm sorry to be so blunt.
That might be good advice for this rider, but on the other hand, we have no information on how experienced and skillful she is. She may be fine with this horse. But even is she isn't, and chooses to sell, horse's fate will be much better if training resolves this issue.
New to your channel! Back in horse country after many years. Love your intuitive nature with these horses,. Much needed info, thank you!✌️💗
Thank you so much fo this video and hopefully a lot of people with similar horses see it. 30 years ago a friend of mine bought a mare who used to flip over with the previous owner. Taking herself a lot of time, she found out her horse had back problems, a very sensible mouth, hated most of the men and wouldn't accept riders which she didn't personally like. So she did flips as the fastest way to get rid of unsecure or unjust riders, when they treated her harsh or with too much pressure, especially in the mouth. She was very beautiful, had a lot of go and could move around and speed up incredibly fast.
Finally we were 4 women who could ride her without ever having rearing problems, always light in the back and with "two fingers" on the reins.
Unfortunately the friend sold her for nearly no money as a non rideable company horse. She suddenly had urgent money and other troubles, and in panic, with an emergency decision she wanted to find a good place but had no time to search or control the new place. The guy (😭) told her she would will be companion for a breeding mare he has and she will never have to carry a rider again, just be horse on the pastures with other horses - sounded (too) perfect ...
After half a year the girl who also rode her finally had the strength and wanted to visit her, but she found out the horse got slaughtered within 6 weeks😭. The guy was a trader and of course wanted to sell this nice mare for much more money. But his money making dream died , after 2 of his trainers ended up with with broken bones and the second even in hospital with severe injuries in the back, because of the little beauty flipping over... It broke my heart, I couldn't afford another horse as I already had my own two horses (already one too much for my budget 🙈) and the mare was always my big boy's favourite girl...
I love this horse! I have one like him. An absolute angel on the ground but he does like to rear when he gets stressed under saddle. I found it interesting when you mentioned the thresholds and how the horse marches down the trail. Mine is easily the fastest walker on trails. He really marches and he's very sensitive. You don't have to ask him to go. He hasn't flipped (thankfully) but I still consider him too dangerous to place into another home. He'll stay with me for the rest of his days. Great video!
Kudos to you for feeling responsible for the horse, his future and for the safety of others. Huge props to you and I hope your life is very blessed 😊
That is cool Ryan. I have ridden and broke many horses myself. Flippers need a rider who can control the situation. I agree with how you are teaching the owner.
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He's a great horse and you have a wonderful read on him...hell end up a great horse with the right training
Such a beautiful horse. I wish l had this knowledge when I was working with my horse ( from years ago). I like your approach in working with horses with various behavioral problems and addressing the issues and working with the horse and not trying to just control the horse.
I’d love to see a part 3, where another horse walks away and he has to stand still. I have the same problem. As long as we’re alone we’re good, but if she cant go with others I’m with, she rears. I’ve learned a lot today. Thank you!
This horse needs a nap...he's tired. That's a beautiful star on his forehead. I enjoyed your patience in training him.
I would have never thought of a horse being an introvert...... you completely blew me away with that. But your so right! Wow Thanks Ryan. Your truly amazing!
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Thank you for letting us follow these steps to understanding the thought process to solve this problem.
Excellent read on this guy and handling! Mr. Rose what a pleasure to have found your channel :)
This sweet boy just needs a big dose of confidence. Lots and lots of groundwork including "play" activities and perhaps some trick training, in-hand obstacles, and liberty work. Get that real trust and connection going. Right now it looks mostly, like Ryan said, "obedience". He's even insecure with his stress releases... those "subtle" lick and chews.
The head up game was so interesting to watch, we'll done
At one point, after you released the rein, he licked and chewed, and shook his head. That was great.
I have just started watching your videos and I really like what you do with them. I like the figuring out part of what might be going on with them. You are so patient with them.
Ryan has a wonderful combination of common sense and inspiration. Marvellous to watch.
Thank you for taking time with the horse.
I really enjoyed this video. I've had problems with horses riding fine and then suddenly bucking hard enough to get me off.in each instance after pulling blood work on the horse and there was a vitamin E and selenium deficiency. After giving a supplement and changing to an excruded feed the problem was solved. I live in PA and our soil is deficient in those things.
I was holding my breath the whole time
😳 no worries I’m a professional 😂
Maybe check for lyme disease. He does seem like he may be in some pain. He also seems like he isn't processing visual or audio stimuli very easily. He seems to be more assured with physical touch than anything else, even if it's just a rope while working on the ground (once he figures out what you want)..
I agree...possibly in pain.
It probably wouldn't hurt to use a loose martingale with this horse for safety's sake. I had a horse, years ago that reared quite often in the early years, although he never toppled over on me. Initially, I used the martingale to keep his head down to a point, since he was so much stronger than I was/am. Once he learned to keep his front feet on the ground, I traded the bit and saddle for a hackamore and bear back pads and we spent the last 10 years of our riding days together with minimal gear, riding the trails with or without other riders. We probably put 10,000 miles on each other, throughout our adventures together. My sweet horse turned out to be a kitten in disguise. It takes time, patience, and trust to bring out the qualities of a fine horse. I absolutely love the gentle techniques that Ryan uses and the respect that he shows for the horse ... the makings of an excellent horse trainer, for sure!
Horses rear and go over for different reasons. I'm curious to know the rider's and other trainer's response to him rearing. Did they continue to hang on the reins? Did they lean back? Why did the horse go over backwards? How did they respond to the rearing? Where was the rider's weight?
I was working for someone who ran a summer camp and had a large pony who was rearing in response to the 18 year old son viciously jerking/yanking on the mare's mouth and then leaning back, worsening the problem. After observing this a few times, it was easy to see the problem and I got on to see how she'd respond to removing the pressure off her mouth and leaning forward. She immediately quit rearing when she found I wouldn't jerk on her mouth and trotted off just fine. I explained to the son what he needed to stop doing - mainly stop yanking on her mouth. If he never yanked on her mouth, she wouldn't rear. There was really nothing wrong with the poor pony except the pain he inflicted on her. She was a good, well broke trustworthy pony, would follow in a trail ride and stop and start; no spooking or running off - but the son seemed to enjoy making a "rearing trick pony" out of her - dangerous for everyone who didn't know how to ride. The problem probably could have been fixed with a hackamore or bosal, too, but if he'd have continued to jerk on her like that, I think there still would have been a problem. Not sure if they kept her. She would have been fantastic for a small adult who knew how to ride. I hope she ended up with better owners and not at the glue factory. It never ceases to amaze me how a young adult, raised with horses, and supposedly learned how to train all of their ponies, can pick up such bad habits and create their own nightmare problems. He had to know at some level he was training that pony to rear when he did it a number of times in a row. *SMH*. I'm glad you and your horse finally got the "kinks" worked out and were able to enjoy each other's company for so long. This little pony could have made someone the same wonderful companion.
No. Martingales are just crutches and give a false sense of security.
They don't teach the horse anything other than that you are trying to control them, through pain, rather than work with them.
And a horse needs to be able to use it's head to assess it's surroundings.
And a horse that can flip with their head bent, as the owner said happened, can flip with a martingale just as easy.
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She said he did it once on loose rein and the other times with his head bent to the side.
@@Fuzzybudget I was also wondering that. Wondered if the same bitting arrangement was used for both that first trainer and the rider. She said that she rode with a snaffle, but not clear if that was what was used the first time she tried him.
@@notadumbblond3 Thanks - I missed that.
You give the horse a reason to trust you. I love that. Trainers who only want control, don't have trust, the horse won't trust them and the rider can never trust the horse.
So exciting to see the owner and you taking the time with this really good horse! I have one who not only looks just like him but has in the past, acted in a similar manner. The nervous introverted ness. Even tho I was told to get rid of him, he was dangerous, I persisted and we are really good riding buddies now. Love him to pieces.
He needs to learn to move out with confidence, and a trainer who can establish the channels of communication and trust, on the ground and in the saddle. When the owner said putting the halter on was like putting one on a giraffe I knew she's not experienced in establishing good, safe, working behaviors with this horse. Can only imagine what the last trainer did since the horse has obviously not been worked on lateral lunging and off line in the round pen which when done well, teaches a horse to move his feet and read and trust the trainer. This is a sensitive and wary horse.
Ryan, you did a good job getting a feel on him and opening up communication and trust. It's such a beautiful thing to see the communication and trust established. So sad that so many people just don't know. And God knows I've made plenty of mistakes with my horses. It's an education for human and animal.
What a nice little horse. He’s a lucky dude you’ve figured him out. Hope I can find his next video and that he’s doing ok.
This really hits home with me.! Years ago I road a newly acquired ranch horse. I road the horse all day but went slow and he did great. When jumping a ditch he lunged in an over jump. . This horse would rear and throw itself anytime the men tried to ride him. I’ve seen this in loco horses and he may have been. I did not see signs of this in the horse you are working with but I did detect a bit of fear at the start.
Beautiful Horse And Acted well to You it must have been His Sorrouding to do what he done Has Great responses Ryan ❤❤
He is such a beautiful beautiful horse
Wow!! This was great! He seems to like you! Thanks for the video!
When he's going clockwise he's looking away from where you are. But when he goes counter clockwise he looks at you. He seems focused elsewhere. I love buckskins.
How are you
I love ❤️ the way you think❣️
I think you’re a wonderful trainer very patient and Certainly knows what you’re doing. Beautiful horse I would take him in a heartbeat
When I had a horse that reared, she put me in the hospital for two nights. Then I taught her to rear on command. You know, rearing 10 times in a row just isn't as fun as it looks like it would be. I think your method would have helped her get through the intervening years. But it wasn't all bad, she was my daughter's babysitter. Sometimes the toughest ones are the best in the long run, but I'm too old to do that over again!
A good trainer and a good common Sense person you'll have a smart horse
I particularly enjoyed the mention of horses who stop at a creek, then make the surprising decision that it's a lava flow and make a spectacular leap to keep us both safe from that churning fire below. 😆At 14, that's how I learned to ride on my green mustang's head and neck. Regardless of what the other riders said, if you can work your way back into your seat without touching the ground, you should get full credit for a jump as far as I'm concerned. (If anyone has a thought about why a horse that crosses a creek several times a day in it's own pasture suddenly views that creek as something that needs to be jumped when a rider climbs aboard, I'm all ears.)
I agree w all the comments ‼️ He's a great 🐎, just gotta find out why he's so into his head ❣️ I hope u don't give up on him but I would understand. A back 🐎💫out of nowhere is scary. Best of luck ❣️✌️