The Real Difference Between Indica and Sativa Plants
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- The Real Difference Between Indica and Sativa Plants
Many people think the difference between an Indica and a Sativa is the effects each can give, however this is a common misconception. The only true distinction between these two is the morphological appearance and has nothing to do with the compounds produced. The connection most people are making is based on limited early varieties and this does not hold true, what is a consistency is the way the plants look as can be seen in this video.
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The basic differences between Indica and Sativa are where they originated from.
Sativa's were originally from low latitude tropical regions such as Columbia, Thailand,Laos, Jamaica,India,Mexico.
0 degrees to 25 degrees north of the equator.
While Indica's developed further north from the equator, 25 degrees to 40 degrees. The Indica's were developed for hashish production, thus the larger trichomes, however that adaption also had to do with the protection of the plant from the extreme desert heat of those latitudes.
Because of these adaptions to their respective latitudes from the equator, is the reason why Sativas take longer to mature than Indica's. In a temperate northern climate, a Columbian or Thai strain won't mature until late December if at all.
While conversely an Indica plant when planted in a low latitude tropical climate, such as Jamaica(plenty of videos on youtube) will act like an auto flower and mature immediately reacting to the even day and night cycles to the proximity of the equator.
So its a little more than wider leaves and narrow leaves.Even though these are adaptions to their respective environments of origin as well.
People have lost touch with these basics, because ,for the last 25 years these disembodied hybrids have mostly been grown indoors, far away from their original climates of origin.
But probably the most basic way to identify, is how long flowering takes to maturity, the more Sativa in a hybrid, the longer it will take to finish.
That's why Sativas (full season grow) can yield much more product than indica strains (90-day wonder buds) I've seen sativas that were 30 years old with trunks so big that you could't wrap your arms around them. You could swing from their lower branches...I live in Hawaii...
Great summary... "The basic differences between Indica and Sativa are where they originated from."
and then even further north we have the Ruderalis which doesn't rely on light to flower because of the long hours of light during northern summers, from which the autoflowering strains are bred.
@@lorrinrodrigueshs-bcp192 contrary to what many people believe cannabis is not a seasonal plant, if you keep them at 18 hours of light they will have a 50 year lifecycle. Which gives some credit to the Dogon tribe's version of cannabis origin on earth.
Also wild indica plants are either male or female . Wild sativa females in the absence of a male plant can grow male pods and self pollinate to produce seed.
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@@robertallen5422 I think so too! Very helpful.
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Absolutely what the industry needs.. thank you so much
yes so annoying going to dispensary and every single time salesmen ask, "you want sativa or indica".. I want to correct them but it's tiring
Be sure to share this video;-)
Just link this video for them... it will save you the time and frustration.
@@DeBaccoUniversity Good idea! keep up the great videos
A very simple way that i was taught in the 70's to recognise the difference is that the lancelots on the Indica leaf overlap a little near the base but the Sativa dont.. Your videos are very well put together very informative and highly commendable.
In knowledge lies wisdom :) .
Great comment... "Your videos are very well put together very informative and highly commendable." Thanks for this!
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Your channel and this video in particular was one of the motivating factors to explore my cannabis education. I am currently enrolled at LSU in their cannabis agriculture and horticulture proram. But I'd love to learn from you at uconn one day if you are still teaching. Thank you for the free knowledge you post on your channel.
Glad this channel has provided some of your inspiration, I am still actively teaching but consider yourself a student of mine already;-)
@DeBaccoUniversity thanks professor! I've seen all your videos lol not kidding, feels like you've been my teacher the whole time anyway. Thanks for making these, truly appreciate it 👍
Hi Professor. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I've always wondered about differing effects depending on strain, but in practice have not really noticed anything that would indicate differentiation. Love your work!
Thanks for sharing and glad you like the content.
You will bud. Its hard to find genuinely good genetics grown right sometime. Hybrids seem to add to the confusion.
@@miweb3235 been smoking top shelf for 3 years now and generally been using it for 10. Never ever did i noticed a difference between so called Indica or sativa. Haze, skunk, diesel, kush... Thats where the varietys are.
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I like your content. Very informative.
You never know where connections can be made... even potentially on a seemingly random RUclips video is possible;-)
Great video! I've always heard that Sativa grows tall because it was optimized by farmers for fiber, as used in cloth and rope.
Indica refers to strains from the East, varieties bred for psychotropic effects.
it is more so environment dictating how the plant grows ... sativa is hot climate, long growing season type of cannabis .. indica is colder environ , short growing season cannabis
Good summary!
True
Thanks for putting out the truth. There are even old dogs that claim the classification alone will let them know how it will work for them. It's all about the terpene profile, THC/CBD (and undoubtedly other cannabinoids that haven't been researched as much) content and personal genetics. You can definitely get a feel of what tastes are related to potential effects you may get.
Thanks for your supportive comment!
True! I STRONGLY believe that SATIVA had many advantages. I suspect You are dead on the money when you refer to Cannabinoids NOT being researched yet to the fullest.
That’s quite the grow, Professor! Stems are nice and green too.
Thanks for noticing!
DeBacco always informative ✌💯
That is the goal;-)
💯👏👍 I've heard that almost everything is pretty much hybridized now days if its not a landrace
Hybrids aren't a bad thing though, as in most cases, the breeders are trying to select the best genes to hybridize,and some websites let you track the lineage from dispenseries. I'm growing a pineapple Express that's a hybrid, and due to its parents I have a strain that is mold resistant, good for canada.
@@behlockaetheking7062 don't get fooled by " mold resistant" claims. i live in canada too and tried most of them that claim resistance. they mold up just the same as all the others if not covered during rain in flower.
Yes, many are hybrids but when you hear Sativa dominate this is important for the grower more than the end user.
Yes, that's true, however, There is a HUGE difference in Cannabinoid profiles and effects between the two. Anyone who has smoked a pure Sativa strain (like a Haze) vs a pure Indica can attest to this. Cheers!
Haze is a subset of the broader types.
So which is your preferred? Sativa or Indica? Just learning here. So much difference from the 60's ! lol
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Not me.
False. There is absolutely no difference in the genetics between them.
I'd give almost anything for good old school outdoor grown at the equator under 12 hour days sativa buds like the 70s.
Colombian Red and Gold Bud, real Acapulco Gold, Red or Chocolate Thai buds...
It was seedy, but it was amazing smoke.
So the last 50 years has not been competitive with the 70's grows?
@@DeBaccoUniversity Oh, definitely better on the indoor and sinsemilla fronts for sure. I love a good Kush. But there is a special something about tropical grown sativas that hits strong and deep. I don't remember them as speedy the way people describe it now. It is a deep body high.
One other thing to mention is the taste. The curing process was different and buds had no chlorophyl left in them. No green, just red, brown, golden loveliness. A totally different set of flavor profiles. Spiced.
@@DeBaccoUniversity One more mention, there was lots of crappy Mexican schwag around too. Tasted like a basement floor. Too much was a guaranteed headache. Good riddance to that stuff forever.
I remember in the 70's and 80's everything was Sativa or mostly Sativa and everything was based on the high. Some were too speedy some were more euphoric some more talkative where as today everything is based on smells and taste because all these Indica hybrids have the same burn out buzz.
I hear ya....been enjoying more sativa lately and def less heavy burnout.✌
Thanks for sharing.
I'm currently growing a Sativa strain that takes 14- 16 weeks to finish. Those long thin leaves can take on direct sun much better then an Indica in my experience.
Exactly as u said already the long thin leaves they cant absorb as much light as an indica tho. That explains the mostly longer flowertimes they are not as efficient.
Same ace seeds tropical mix. Didn't know thin leaves can take harsh sun
no such thing as sativa strain
@@David-we3sb you're slippin'
@David, do you mean "species" rather than "strain?" There is a difference. My understanding is that Sativa and Indica can (and do) interbreed (i.e. form hybrids) and because of this they are the same species.
"A recent genetic analysis included both the narrow-leaflet and wide-leaflet drug "biotypes" under C. indica, as well as southern and eastern Asian hemp (fiber/seed) landraces and wild Himalayan populations.[16]"
[16] Karl W. Hillig (2005). "Genetic evidence for speciation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae)". Genetic Resources and Crop Evolution. 52 (2): 161-180. doi:10.1007/s10722-003-4452-y. S2CID 24866870.
One of my favorite subjects. Thanks for the lesson on sativa/Indica plant. Looking forward to growing in the future !✌️💗
Glad to know you liked the lesson.
Very informative much thanks big up from the Caribbean
Glad you liked it!
Would really like to see a video on climate affect on various strains
If only studies like that would have been teached in my country i become the best i want all the knowledge this world has about this plant and discover more things, thanks prof i enjoyed even if i already know this things
Thanks for watching just to confirm what you already knew;-)
haha same.. keep leaning, this plant is magical and can save humanity.
I grew a Sativa Star last season that grew 9 feet tall - and I topped it twice! Love me some sativa!
That sure sounds like a Sativa;-)
Grow up n stop smoking pot..weirdos
Very clear descriptive video eliminating the "strain" talk.Nicely done! Ruderalis autos would be a different species as well?
Thanks for the comment and yes Ruderalis is in another category.
Please use your extensive collaboration of apprehensions to elloborate.We learn from men of your scientific caliber!
You can have both in a greenhouse under the same conditions but each will respond differently. Indica are cool-natured short-season plants and Sativa is warm-natured long photoperiod plants. That's what makes the difference. 😎
These are the environment each prefer, but here they were both grown under the same conditions.
I worked in helicopters for California fire department in 1970s. Before Reagan paid us to eradicate all cannabis. We saw a small group of Sativa plants in a mountain creek bottom that were close to being about 20 feet tall. The aroma was so much stronger than the indica. What happened to these giant overwhelmingly aromatic sativas? Are they extinct?
There are growers on RUclips that have plants that big. Not sure if it's sativa dependent,.might just have been a great spot for those plants.
One of my neighbors has let a common weed plant grow and grow and that's about 15 ft tall..bloody hate the thing, it's forever firing out its seeds.
Smaller plants are easier to manage and have become more popular, but big plants still exist;-)
Used to grow them but the helicopters put an end to them in Australia, just moved indoors then
I'm not kidding here.
That sounds like some crops I used to grow for years in a little canyon. That was inside San Dimas canyon.
I use to see this little canyon all the time.
And it always had a little water running in it all year long.
While the main stream of the canyon would dry out in july.
There were no trails going into this little canyon. And there was nowhere to park.
Well one day I had to find out why there was always water running down this little canyon.
So I start up the canyon.
Walking in the stream, not to leave a trail.
And the stream is only a foot wide. But in some places it got 2 to 3 feet wide max.
Let me say right here. That at this time I was only 16 years old. And it was in the early 70s.
Anyway all the soil a long the stream was really rich good soil.
So I've gone about 3 miles now. And I turn this one corner and I'm looking at the next corner, which was only like 30 feet away.
And one side of the canyon was like a shear cliff straight up, like 60 feet tall.
It was like a solid wall of rock. And at the bottom of this wall was some very rich soil that came off the wall like 3 feet wide.
So I turn left to keep going up the canyon.
And bam like 20 feet away the canyon ends.
And sticking out of the wall of the canyon is a 12 inch round pipe with water coming out of it.
And I'm like WTF.
So as I'm hiking out I mark a lot of places I want to plant seeds, when I come back in the spring.
Well I don't make it back up there till the end if May.
And yes there is still water running.
So as you hike up this little canyon. You make a quick right then a quick left.
Then you can see up the canyon for like a half mile.
So I make the left and I look and I'm like WTF.
The whole width of the canyon and like 30 feet high. Is nothing but poison oak. I couldn't believe it.
And I thought to myself, this is a good reason there isn't any trails going into this canyon.
Needless to say I turned around and went home.
The next year I went up there at the beginning of march. And the poison oak was just started to come out.
So I planted all the way up the canyon. At least 50 different places.
And as I got about 3/4 into the canyon there was no trace of poison oak.
Once I made it to the end where that shear cliff was.
I planted about 40 seeds that I had from some good
Al gold, colum gold and some Thai sticks.
And I kept them all separate. So I would know which ones were which.
So now I can't make back up there till the end of April.
And the poison oak is starting to get crazy. But I dressed for the occasion.
And every place around where I planted had stayed clear of the poison oak.
And I was shocked almost every place I planted had sprout.
But the top of every plant had been eaten off.
I was pissed.
And I'd never seen any tracks. Or seen or heard any animals while I was up there.
So I decide to hike to the end.
And bam once I made the turn to see where that shear cliff was. Every seed had sprouted and the plants were like a foot and a half tall already.
Anyway I'm going on way to long here.
I ended getting at least 20 foot high plants. And they grew all the way across the canyon.
I grew there for about 4 years with outstanding results.
Till one year like a f#$king idiot. I took a so called friend up there.
And in August of that year I went up there and every single plant was gone.
And I know that they weren't even flowering yet.
Anyway I come to find out that this so called friend ended up with two broken arms.
Imagine that.
I just thought I'd share a little experience I had.
@@assog5737 "friends" I'll drink to that...
I really enjoy your informative videos! Please keep this going!
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I appreciate Prof. DeBacco focusing upon science facts rather than upon drug culture lore.
I would appreciate a follow-up video that could help identify dominant vs. recessive traits in these two strains and their hybrids. This video uses the term "dominant" in a somewhat vague way, although, I do recognize the leaf morphological difference.
Glad you like the scientific aspect. Dominate in this case refers to what can be seen.
Growing up most of my herbs were smuggled accross the border from Mexico. I selected seeds from a few strains I deemed worthy.
It was a hit and miss project but ultimately Sativa vs Indica was nonrelevant. My success stories were only successful because of successful plants.
Based on my results, it was a similar yield regardless in a controlled group experiment.
When it comes to selecting the "best" everyone seems to have a different set of criteria.
There's been SO much talk about the effects between the two, indica being the nighttime relaxing, couch lock experience while sativa is the daytime energetic, get out and do things variety. You're saying to throw all that out the window...? I've bought into all that!
has to do with the volatile terpenes as to different effects ... otherwise its just THC and CBD with no entourage at all ... like Marinol
The actual information if often harder to get across than rumors, but it sounds like you are taking the first step toward a better education!
I think he's saying throw all that out the window because the compounds produced and their effects is not how we make the distinction. Considering that most everything these days has been hybridized, you may find plants that are expressively sativa, but exhibit a high CBD content for example, which would be couch-locking.
But when speaking of pure landrace strains, you'll be hard pressed to find a 100% pure sativa with any significant amount of CBD (typically
@@fattymcbastard6536 most CBD genetics are bred from cannabis sativa ... and Myrcene is most of what creates the couchlock effect in indica varietals ... myrcene and THC mixed at once. Also, if a Sativa land race is grown to full maturity where the trichomes are amber expect a more body effect from that and not just a head effect like most sativa offers . same for an indica , if its picked to early while the trichomes are clear there will be less couchlock effect
@@fattymcbastard6536it’s all bullshit stoner lore / bro science
I grew for years indoors and my favorite strains were always sativa dominant. I did grow kush strains though because it was a business and it is most popular.
Sativas can be a bit more challenging in height limited indoor operations.
@@DeBaccoUniversity I grew short (donkey dicks) plants. The clones were no more than 5 inches before I put them in flower room. I'd get about 15-20 grams from each after 9 or 10 weeks. The light penetrates everything when they are that shorts so it's one massive bud for each plant. I wish it never became legal here. It's an amazing way to make extra cash.
I was watching a video how Sativa at a low elevation changes to Indica once it reaches a very high elevation. Cool video!
Interesting idea.
The biggest difference between sativa and indica is the grow time. Sativa has a "full season" (9 month) life cycle and indica has a 3-month cycle (90-day wonder buds) that's my experience...
Sativas can take longer to get peak harvest, but if both are true photoperiod dependent it will take the same time to flower just yield will differ.
precisely, consumers need to focus more on the grower’s quality along with genetics and terp profile. indica and sativa doesn’t even matter in effects.
Thanks for the quality and true comment!
This is true....HOWEVER, indica plants tend to have a body high with couch lock, most put me straight to sleep....a Sativa IS ALWAYS going to be a head high and makes me giddy with laughter, creativity, and energetic.....ALWAYS a Sativa to start my day....so THE DIFFERENCE IS ACTUALLY BOTH MORPHOLOGY AND TOXICOLOGY ....
Im going to assume ....IF YOU ACTUALLY USED CANNABIS, YOU wouldn't be saying the difference is NOT about effect, when it is also very MUCH EFFECT RELATED. ALSO......ANY USER KNOWS THIS.......
If you expand your cannabis variety selections you may find similar effects in both an Indica and a Sativa since you have not likely tried them all. Also this video may help... ruclips.net/video/YlDLiHKrNyU/видео.html
@@DeBaccoUniversity right.....we call them HYBRIDS....and HYBRID EFFECTS IS EXACTLY that of a hybrid morphology....in between....little of both sativa and indica in morph and same can be said for a hybrids effects.....You said it was different morphogy from effects....and not at all...whatever the morphology of the plant will have the same like effect....and why percentage of sativa to indica is as important as the cannabanoids contained in each cultivar......Ive never even gave it thought before and I fund it oddly coincidental, myself.....pretty awesome, actually.....and is how a patient can dial in on what exactly works for which he ailments....not a cure-all..but dang, CBG for severe pain is better than opiates....CBN is best Valium I've ever had to calm as well as sedate.....CBD is the focus and ckarity, the energizing cannabanoid.....cultivars that are high in specific cannabanoids is also equally as important as the effects or percentage of sativa to indica.......
I love your work, MY Brother.....NOT at all disrespecting....your statement just made me really think about it from the effects side, and NO bud tenders DEFINITELY have it right....MORPHOLOGY = EFFECTS
@@DeBaccoUniversity Keep it Simple.....there will ALWAYS be exceptions to the Rule....with so many factors and variables in growing the plant getting uniquely different results from alternating a single environment variable, the same can be said with humans.....we must NOT complicate cannnabiss more so than it is understood. I agree for safety sake and clarity professional research and studies, must be done....my knowledge cones from 37 years of working with the plant, itself and experimenting with cannabanoid isolates, individually as well as different concoctions of several.....to do this experiment with terpenes I found to be overwhelming as there are so many individually that the list of concoctions are endless for one lifetime, lol....especially at 50 years old.
I've almost tried every strain or cultivar , right up and until the kids got into the seed pile and mixed everything with anything .....as with terpene profiles the crosses are endless. I'm actually looking for those old skool Skunk, Bubba kush and Northern light number 5 , the real pheno cuts, but next to impossible to find, yet they are definitely out there, still to this day.....
So you said that the only difference between both is the shape of leaves...🤔!?? Nothing else? I'm 50 and when I was younger people use to say that real landrace sativa was rare because it takes too long to flower between 16 and 24 weeks...first landrace sativa I grew was from Africa I started 12/12 direct stretch during 7 weeks never stop growing SCROG full multiple pruning humidity issues it took 26 weeks from seed to harvest 3x3 was packed with 1 plant who never stopped...it was really nice but nothing you can't find with a shorter flowering time...
and today it is almost impossible to have the opportunity to taste a range of landrace to find out if there's something special about it some cannabinoid only long flowering plants have or some terpenes the plant produce after a long period some effects etc...
The morphologies are different and yes typically Sativas do take longer to flower, but when both are under the same photo-period they can flower at a similar time as the Indicas. Interesting that you had the perpetual grower. The goal is to show it is the plants that are different not necessarily the effects.
Good job. I would have looked for better leaves to use as an example though. Both of those leaves are underdeveloped. A fully developed Indica leaf should have 7-9 blades and a Sativa should have 11+.
The goal was to focus on the general shape so similar sized leaves were chosen in the comparison.
bollocks
I am surprised you didn't talk about the leaf blade difference of 5 on the Indica and 7 on the Sativa. Is that a typical differentiator?
This can be, but when it comes to blade numbers near the flower it can change.
I have noticed under full spectrum LED lights that I can have leaves that look very fat until mid flower.THen they tend to get more of a sativa look to them and the new leaf is much smaller than in veg phase. Any thoughts on this Prof. DeBacco?
Must be a spectrum response or reaction to different leaf temperatures compared to the other lights you have been using.
The plants pushes thinner leaves in flower to allow more light through.
Pfft.
The main difference chemically between Sativa and Indica is the amount of Myrcene found in the strains. Indica strains contain more then Sativa plants, and Myrcene is known for its relaxing, tranquilizing effects. I theorize that the difference in flower development, Sativa taking 9-12+ weeks to harvest vs Indicas taking 7-9 on average. But if you look at strains known to be high in Myrcene you will find that the majority are heavy Indica dominant strains more so then Sativa heavy.
You bring up good points which is where some of the effect correlation with indica and sativa stems from.
@@DeBaccoUniversity I think it would also be fun to do a video on cannabis ruderalis pointing out the those strains ignore the photoperiod and instead fruit after x time and is how we breed strains to be autoflowers.
I love the way you put out information. It is consice and to the point, but you get enough information to understand. Keep it up, vids are awesome and the dialogue is top notch.
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I started with 4 plants and am successfully growing 2 of them - one that looks like sativa and the other Indica. I noted that the taller one has consistently 9 leaves per stem and the other 7 leaves per stem. I see that the plants you presented had 5 and 7 leaves. Is there any significance in that? Thank kindly. Your videos are exceptionally informative.
Leaf number is not always consistent it is more about the shape and plant habit.
Oh. Wow. Guess the algorithm finally led me to the proper channel.
Welcome, search the channel as there is plenty of information on the channel.
Wait, so if it’s having to do with the morphology and structure of the plant, why is it a misconception that Indica plants produce more sedative effects, and sativa plants produce uplifting, energy based euphoric effects?
Can you explain this?
From my personal experience, consuming Sativa plants give me anxiety. The ONLY sativa that has not, is Blue dream, but I believe that’s more of a hybrid.
With that being said, indica plants are my go to. Or indica dominant hybrids. I don’t feel anxious whatsoever when consuming indicas.
Do you think this is because different Sativa plants produce different effects? Like blue dream for instance, the effects are very relaxing, versus let’s say Lemon Haze.
I’m curious about this
This is because of the limited varieties of each that have been used have given the false impression that the two produce different chemical profiles as the main difference, when they can produce the same chemical profiles but the structures will be different regardless and is the main classification.
So you are saying that indica and sativa do not have different buzzes
So you are saying the fact that sativa dominant plants give a more uplifting and energetic High every time I have smoked them in the last 30 years , and the fact that indica plants give me more of the couch lock style Stone every time I have smoked them in the last 30 years, and that every other smoker and grower I have ever talked to feels the same way and has the same opinion and experiences the same effects over the last 30 years even after all of us using many different cultivars and many different phenotypes................... long story short we're just making that up and that's all bro science. And it has nothing to do with it being sativa or indica. We just got together and made up a story.
While it can be true that indica can be spotted early on from leaf structure and size, the real telling for me has always been odors, resins and most importantly the effect on the psyche when ingested. In simpler terms, indica is skunk weed. It tends to be a stronger buzz, to the point of full body sedation. Sativa has a sweeter smell, usually comes with a more of a lighter head high.
Indica is more skunky , that is the Thiols like in Garlic ... Sativa tends to be more minty . either way what determines different effects from the same species of plant ( cannabis/ Cannabaceae ) is the volatile Sesquiterpenes , monotperpenes per varietal of cannabis plant
Remember these are only general statements and will not hold true for all of the Sativas or Indicas.
@@DeBaccoUniversitysome indica feels like coke, some sativa feels like xans. Terpene profiles
Call me crazy, but I've never noticed a difference in effect from the two strains. Being high feels like being high, only difference is the strength for me.
"I've never noticed a difference in effect from the two strains." Thank you for your confirmation of the information presented.
Yea sativa is definitely better
I gotta agree with you same here
That's because you've never had a 100% true sativa look up the Malawi strain
@@brianjacobson7571exactly. It‘s because of all the crossbreeding, which isn’t necessarily bad, but if you get 100% pure landrace Sativas vs landrace Indicas you‘ll notice the difference, because if the plant develops differently, in different conditions, their effects will be different.
It is a proven fact, that the entourage effect is dependent on the terpenes and even more so on specific cannabinoid compounds, that you nowadays find in basically all strains, the Indica compounds as well as the Sativa compounds, as well as the Ruderalis compounds for Autoflower, but with the original landrace strains, purebreeds, you‘d still have that key compound, as Bom Shiva intended it to be. 🤷🏻♂️
(Sativa developed more tropical, hot and humid, southern India, whereas Indica mainly originated from continental, arid, mountainous regions like the Himalayas, the Hindukush, up to Kazachstan and Mongolia)
gee, that explains it. Indica and sativa are simply adaptations a weed plant uses depending on it's altitude and environment. High and dry= indica, low wet humid= sativa. Any weed plant wether we call it sativa or indica has these adaptations built into it's genes already. In india for example you can travel up a mountain and observe the cannabis plants traits changing from sativa looking to indica looking as you go higher. These changes have gone back and forth countless times as people have spread cannabis around the globe and of course selective breeding changes the plants traits as well.
Adaptations is what created the difference we see.
Thanks! I thought so! I've smoked much herbage in my 50+ years, and I can confirm different psycho/physio effects from various strains, but they seem completely independent of their morphology. I don't even try to argue with the budtenders anymore, lol.
the main difference is the volatile terpenes in different types of cannabis ... those are directors for the phytocannabinoids . a dry herb vaporizer really delivers the terpenes and allows the person to notice subtle differences as compared to smoking
2 friggin weirdos here
Thanks for sharing!
I appreciate the academic nature of these presentations 👍🌱
Educational and academically profession is the goal of DeBacco University.
There's also indica's 4-8 week flowering period to sativas 9-13 and in rare cases up to 16 week flowering time
Thanks for adding this.
@@DeBaccoUniversity I've also noticed indicas typically only produce 7 and 9 fingered leaves, while 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, and even 13 fingered leaves are always sativas or hybrids. That indica strain you showed definitely has sativa admixture. Sativas can also ignore shorter than 14 hr days and go into veg anyway. Indicas are incapable of this.
Hello Prof. DeBacco I would like to share with you something I wrote down about Cannabis and the real differences between Sativa & Indica.
I would like to have an open discussion and hear what you think. I’m sorry for my English, it’s not my native language.
Any cannabis plant should be called a sativa as it is "domesticated" (Latin for sativa).
Indica derives from landraces discovered in India which were apparently, therefore morphologically, different from African or Thai sativa landraces because they are influenced by exogenous factors.
The fact is that they are all C. Sativa.
C. Ruderalis is also a C. Sativa
The most sativa/indica differentiation is only morphological and given by factors such as humidity, exposure, climate and microclimate, water, temperature etc.
(Above 3500m landraces will tend to assume an “Indica” morphology with broad leaves and a low bushy structure; I'm not sure of this). Filiform leaves, high internodal distance, marked vertical growth are typical "sativa" morphological characteristics; these characteristics are pronounced in arid environments, with little water. There is therefore less loss due to evapotranspiration (just think of the evolution and adaptation of plants in the desert with leaves transformed into thorns and so on).
The sativa/indica difference attributed today mostly refers to the perceived effect. This is a lie indoctrinated and perpetuated also thanks to the placebo effect. The perceived effect is given by the chemical compounds produced by cannabis and in particular the synergy between the various volatile aromatic molecules terpene, diterpenes, sesquiterpenes and so on that give rise to the entourage effect (very interesting topic that I want to deepen).
It follows that the indica/sativa terminology is particularly useful for the grower to define the phenotype of the plant.
The genotype encompasses the characteristics in terms of chemical compounds produced. Nothing else.
It is therefore possible to have sativa-style plants (morphologically) with typical indica effects. And viceversa.
Hybrids represent a middle ground between the two morphological types with dominant characteristics of one and the other.
Great detail provided in short you summed it up the best by saying... "the indica/sativa terminology is particularly useful for the grower to define the phenotype of the plant."
@@DeBaccoUniversity Thanks Prof.
Ruderalis is also a sativa, we should look up botanik books, not stoners Katalogs
@@donalddenzler3704 yes it is
Hi, I live in South Africa, it's legal here to grow and smoke your own weed on your own property, been growing for approx. 10 years now, I use mostly Durban poison, Malawi gold and Zimbabwe copper. Our growing season is between August and May, (summer). A few years back I had a plant that survived winter, that became a hermaphrodite, that produces flowers and buds.
I've had a few more like this from seeds I've saved from that plant.
Is this common?
stress will do that to the plant ... its a way for it to survive and make pollen to propagate the species into the future ... Greetings From US , NC east coast !
@@mcozy333 ah!.....stress!
Why didn't I think of that?
Thanks man! 👍😎🍻🇿🇦
(The high off those plants is pretty good👍)
Glad to see support by the community.
@@DeBaccoUniversity 🍻🇿🇦👍
The Asian Indica's have two phenotypes . The short squat Afghan Kush phenotype from higher and drier environments of the Hindu Kush and the S.E. Asian phenotypes from the monsoonal environments of Thailand , Vietnam etc.. The monsoon phenotypes have more open stature , grow very tall, and have thin leaves like sativa to let air and rain through, and the Kush types are squat with extremely wide leaves to conserve moisture. I can remember one leaf segment was four fingers wide. And the odor was distinct like the hashish product made from the same plants. Other than that the two types are identical chemically. Pure Afghan was given to the University of Washington back in the 70's. I remember it well. It grew knee or hip high at best. Vietnam vets brought back the Mekong delta types around the same time. Both were very strong and not for the amateur! The wide leaf example shown here is not like the extremely wide leaf of the Afghan I remember. Looks to be more of a hybrid possibly. True examples are hard to find these days. Today one would call the monsoonal phenotype sativa due to it's thin long leaf and open tall stature. That would be wrong by the botanical standards of the late 70's early 80's. I am quoting ' The Botany and Ecology of Cannabis' by Robert Connell Clarke 1977
one of the main ways of the plant developing a different expression is the Soil mica ( metallic oxides) wherever it grows for a long period of time . those volatile metals determine what smell attributes the plant takes on and different soil mica makes for a different total chemical reaction in the plant
Thanks for sharing.
As always very informative thank you love your channel ❤
You are welcome and your comment is appreciated!
Great info !!!👍🌱
Thanks!
I have had this this exact explanation as my own head theory for a decade now.
I believe indica/sativa only slightly impact whether the effects are head or body dominant, and from my personal experience that factor really seems to mostly comes down to trichome maturity.
"I have had this this exact explanation" thank you and be sure to tell others!
As someone who really smoke medicinally I can tell between the greatest saliva and the worst indica that the indica is much more helpful and drastically different I don't care what anyone says I hate saliva and hybrids and my body would tell me even if I didn't notice faster heart beat increased anxiety and paranoia
@@nothere2610 You may believe you can, but I highly doubt you truly can. Main reason being, with only a few exceptions, almost every single strain out right now is a hybrid. Even the ones we’ve all known for a long time have a highly questionable backgrounds due to prohibition. There is just simply no chemical identifier that is unique to an indica or sativa and they’ve nearly all been crossbred to unknown levels. Peace
@@pixeldelic I don't have to lie about anything brother I can do it every time anytime I'm not sure if it's because I'm an anxious person and it triggers anxiety and Aren't competitions but I can easily tell if it's even more hybrid or more indica depending on the relaxation of my body everytime
@@pixeldelic And trust me it is made of procuring marijuana in other places outside of big cities where it's legal legal very difficult very very difficult in fact I'm experiencing it right now I wish what you were saying was true I'm often getting outdoor much weaker indica to not get the much better Is purple Hybrid right now I don't need to lie I don't understand why unless you're a liar I understand there's a lot of liars on the Internet but I have no reason to I notice that immediately with marijuana with marijuana I don't understand how people can even smoke sativa or like hybrids
Great information , that's a grow space to dream about . .
America does look very appealing for many reasons including the research & knowledge of Cannabis .
It does take a lot of time, labor and planning to make everything come together, but when it does it is rewarding!
@@DeBaccoUniversity Thanks . 🙂
Should Sativa and Indica even be used to describe Cannabis anymore? The description is only true for OG Sativa and Indica varieties, which are all hybridized at this point. Wouldn't it be as relevant as calling a certain plant Variegated, despite it being all one color, but just has a Variegated variety in his ancestry?
You bring up a very valid point.
I've explained this to people for a long time and always get funny looks. It has led to quite a few heated discussions. I've never met a non-grower who could have an informed conversation about this. As a dispensary or street customer, this information (sativa or indica) means almost nothing, I repeat nothing! to you.
Keep up the good fight for the correct information!
hey, I'm growing few plants for the very first time this year, any chance I can email you some pictures to identify what they are? Leaves look like indica yet the size is of sativa........
This would be hard to determine with a picture. Leaf types would be favored as you can keep the plant in Veg longer to get it bigger but the leaf morphology will be the same.
99.999% chance, regardless of phenotype, it is indica dominant because whoever grew the plant that made your seeds wanted 100 crops in 30 years instead of 30.
Cannabis indica was originally described by Lamarck as having narrow leaflets. Linnaeus based his description of Cannabis sativa on European hemp. The narrow and wide leaflet drug strains derive from the same “indica” gene pool. Whose taxonomy do you adhere to?
This can provide a guideline... ruclips.net/video/AEF8fIWNhVI/видео.html along with the ICNCP - International Code for the Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants
@@DeBaccoUniversity If narrow-leafed drug strains are “sativa” and wide-leafed drug strains are “indica,” then what is European hemp?
Have you covered Chemovar groups yet ?
Try these DeBacco University videos... ruclips.net/video/DpSWThZBH9Y/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/coOf172DWeI/видео.html
Hi! I'm new here. I have a friend that grows and his plants are short like indica but the leaves are thin like sativa. Does that mean it's a hybrid? Im getting interested in this subject. Any knowledge would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance!!! 💨💨💨
Assuming growing environment is in good shape, it sounds like you have a hybrid.
So many bud tenders are full of crap.. They won't listen to us old cats..Honestly the cannabis grown these days sucks to me.. Yeah smells amazing covered in trics but doesn't get me high..Went to Bimini a few months back and bought some herb and it got me SOOOO HIGH and I'd bet it wasn't even 10% thc..Way more to it then just high THC numbers .. Only one strain in the past 5 yrs i really like is RS11
Keep up the spread of quality scientific information even if people will not listen.
Hi professor, thanks for all the knowledge. Keep going 🤘🤘
You are welcome glad to here you like the videos, be sure to share them with others!
My sentiments seem to be that theres alot of hybrid seeds especially in the usa and alot of country where growers breed its hard to tell what is true indica and what is true sativa i feel that the true indica and sativa are landrace and hidden in time alot of marijuana production is for the cultivar keeper / personal smoke, not the oldest trophy / Antique Artifact plant
You gotta find black market strains grown by 60-90 year olds.
or just go to a trusted seed bank... lol
Hybrids may clear distinctions more difficult.
Gosh, that was really interesting, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, be sure to share it with others.
If it is nothing to do with chemical compounds then why the seeming huge difference in effects? Sativa can make it hard for me to relax and sleep yet an indica will knock me out every time. This is from personal experience, not what I’ve been told.
If I understood correctly the classification is given by the morphology but the effect is largely given by the terpene profile and by the various chemical compounds
This is because of the subsets of Sativas and Indicas that have been marketed to you.
They might be different, but we sure love them both equally :)
Well said.
Interesting information. I will have to delve more deeply. Thanks 😊
Thanks this was intended to provide an overview.
@@DeBaccoUniversity I used to find it relaxing to smoke a little, but anymore feel like I'm having a psychotic episode. I've been told to try a different strain, but in light of your information, that would seem to be bad advice 🤔 😅
Best regards
Have you tried the product agrimec? Worked wonder in my friends greenhouse.
Minimal crops listed and only ground application (field sprayer) listed on the label... assets.syngenta.ca/pdf/ca/labels/AGRI-MEK_SC_31607_en_pamphlet.pdf
Thanks for the info! What a difference!
Glad it was helpful!
This is not necessarily true. You can have landrace genetics from the same valley that will express broad leaf or narrow leaf dependent on altitude and micro-climate. And when it comes to modern genetics everything is so hybridised it becomes a moot point IMO.
Hybrids do add confusion as does growing environment, but in this case the environment was essentially the same so the differences seen can be correlated to the genetics.
I’ve had hybrids that start out looking all the world as indicas, short and squat and compact, that with the flowering stretch become tall and leggy and clearly sativa like. Have you seen this?
Increased Distance from light source can cause stretching.
@@BudgetNugs Not at a PAR over a 1000. Light was not the issue there.
Sounds like you are growing a hybrid.
Although the phenotype variations are an obvious talking point the more useful delineation would be the difference in cannabinoids down to the variety and abundance or lack there of regarding various compounds
The chemical profile should be considered as well, but an "Indica" or "Sativa" does not indicate a particular chemical profile or effects like many are falsely lead to believe.
This is excellent information! I know too many people that "only like sativas". As a decade long smoker, I can tell you that there is little to no difference. I believe most people fall for the placebo effect and marketing hype around sativas.
If you get an indica and a sativa to produce the same chemical profile... how would you tell them apart? The morphologies will be different;-)
Cool that your back making videos consistently
At least currently;-)
grown both n prefer the "sativa" thinner leaves and sometimes 7 vs 5 leaflets to the fatter "indica" ones. no one really talked about all these labels til legal. never heard "terpins" in 25 years of smoking b4.🍻
It is great to see the dispersal of information on this plant.
did this guy really say there is no difference between indica and sativa other than the plant structure? or am i hearing things?
There is no difference between indica and sativa other than the plant structure.
@@DeBaccoUniversity😂👌
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi there thank you .. i have 3 mature plants that have been in flower for 2 weeks. Planted them April 10th.. finally getting some budd growing.. i have a ❓ Question for you tho.... Curious as to what you do with the harvest . Donate it smoke it study it lol you must end up with AlOt
It is all for products and research. ;-)
You didn't discuss the differences in the plants. You discussed the look of the plants. Not their latitude preference having to so with their flower time or anything like that
This video already covers some of this... ruclips.net/video/aGlyhmqnDiM/видео.html
Arjan Raskam of the landrace Strain Hunters told Damian Marley in his pursuit of Jamaican lambs bread that a sativa seed will still yield an indica plant if cultivated at an outdoor elevation above 3,500 ft. I don’t know if this is true, but I am curious what Professor Debacco has to say??????
Thanks for valuing the opinion here. In short cultivation can change the behavior of the plants morphology, but technically not the full chemical profile as this is genetic. So, the phenotype of the plant may change, but the genotype will remain consistent. Hope this helps.
@@DeBaccoUniversity very interesting. That must only further the the complexity of hybridization of sativa and indica then I assume. It’s would be interesting to see experiments done with cannabis where the morphology is affected and how much in regards to elevation. I’m not far enough through your videos but I imagine more knowledge lies ahead. Thanks for the fast feedback!
Hey do you have any videos explaining terpenes?
Yes, there are many search the channel, but here is one to get you started... ruclips.net/video/0Wy1ZPL1yKk/видео.html
I think a terpine breakdown and their effects should go along with this video. That's the only true way to know if you'll be couch locked or not.
This is true but also adds a layer of complexity so this is a simple morphological comparison.
This is a growers' perspective, I guess? It's not a smokers perspective. The terpenes can really influence the effects, too, and how ALL the different components combine and interact that impact effects. Also, your own cannabinoid system. You and your friend can smoke the same strain / batch and have similar effects or somewhat different... Maybe totally different. Like Cheech and Chong smoking the famous Maui Wowie + "Labourdour" hybird strain in the movie Up in Smoke. LOL
Sativa and Indica apply more to the morphology of the plant.
Pumping them videos out very good 👍
rather have quality over content myself
Here you get both!
Thanks for noticing.
I’ve always been told and thought indica meant in da couch😆 and sativa was more uplifting energetic interesting video thanks 🤙
This is the common misconception.
Great information thanks
You are welcome glad you liked it.
What about the difference in leaf segment count? The indica example only had 5 while the sativa had 7. Is this just a common variance seen in both species?
This can also commonly be seen in addition to the leaf morphology.
Very healthy looking plants you have there🙂
Thanks for the comment.
Doesn't Indica also have a slightly shorter grow cycle (I mean in the wild, not the artificial lighting conditions of your average grow room)?
The differences, I've been led to believe; all stem (no pun intended) from the prevailing weather conditions in the area where each developed. Indica grows further from the equator than Sativa, therefore it needs wider leaves to maximize the amount of the sun's ray's it uses to photosynthesize,, & is a sturdier plant because it's more likely to encounter inclement weather, & has a shorter grow cycle because seasons are a thing the further you are from the equator (hour of sunlight being quite different from summer to winter).
Am I wrong?
You are correct Indicas tend to have a shorter growing cycle due to the geographic regions they originate from.
Great vid 💯😊❤️
Thank you 🤗
i had small miget plant with narrow sativa leaf .....and oposite ....had a tall looooong narrow leaf mango orange beer plant and it was almost couch lock ....not sativa rush ...if mix mostly sativa hybrid with mostly indica hybrid you get all kinds in between
This can produce interesting results.
Been smoking Sativa's for most of my life as it is native to my country in the southern hemisphere, but when I ventured to the northern hemisphere I saw indicas in the heir natural habitat and I immediately noticed that they look completely different.. at first glance you can tell it's weed.. but indica's are so tiny that you can grow them on a desk inside your house... I tried doing that with a Sativa... That b!tch was 1.7m tall at the end of 2 season's... So yeah indica's I'd say are best to grow inside your crib, but a Sativa... They like having room to grow even taller, #trimming does not Always help.. I tried... And I ended up with a hedge with some bud surprise's in-between them.. and the plant doesn't produce the full yield it would have , without any "bonsai training".
This is why it is more important for the growers than the user to know. Indicas can be quite shocking if you are commonly seeing Sativas (and vica versa;-)
Appreciate this!
You are welcome and thanks for your comment!
I appreciate your information 😎👌
I appreciate your viewing and commenting.
I have 4 tall plants that have 9 to 10 point leaves. What does that mean? Are they sativa's or a mutation?
Sounds more Sativa dominate.
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Nice video, to add another bit of info to this: Sativa means "harvested" and "Indica" means from India.
Thanks for the info!
How about the different amount of leaves as well ?
This is another indication but does not always hold up true sometimes when the plants go into flower.