Please know that I come not as a critic, but as someone who has questions. I am a 60 year old recovering alcoholic and bar band refugee. The process of recovery landed me in a church where I came to know Christ as my Savior and my Deliverer. I enjoy Disturbed, and I truly believe that David Draiman's heart is genuine. I have seen him shed tears for the hurting and I believe that his desire to see people set free from the bonds of addiction and mental illness come from a very real place. But in all of this, where is Jesus? I hear lots of talk about God, about Elisha, about John the Baptist, but they were all pointing the way to Jesus the Christ. If we're seeing people set free from the chains of addiction and mental illness, chains which I have worn myself, yet we do not lead them to the source of true freedom from sin (See John 8:36), aren't we doing them a tremendous disservice? Can we claim to lead them to God, and yet leave Jesus out of the equation? (See John 14:6) Again, I don't claim to be an authority; I'm searching for answers too.
That's exactly why you don't trust this guy here and David Draiman. This youtube guy and David are falsely decieved they think they're on a crusade of justice and doing things right but a man can think of many things as right but in the end it leads to death if you remember that verse in the bible.
You are asking the right questions. What I have seen from this clip of the singer and what he had to say comes from a place of vanity. Not all vanity slaps you in the face. sin and Satan come on subtle and in the guise of compassion and what is truly right. he finds the cracks and finds the weaknes and takes the good and slowly twists it. you don't see it hitting you until you are already hit. the vanity and condensation in what and how he says while attempting a moral high ground it's not God or Jesus or John the Baptist kind of moment. this is a learning moment but one in which what we should learn is that it is God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit that lead us to freedom and light. If he wanted to make a point and moment he should have spoke about salvation and coming to christ and said a prayer for the church and its members and the people of the show. It would have been a much more powerful statement to be humble and surrender it to God.
He is Jewish but you are seeing the same thing I’ve seen for a while. The hope is that people like David find themselves knowing Jesus and it has been happening. I listen to less music than I used to but a few metal still make the cut because of the positive messages they sing.
I agree with you, but... on a personal note... Last Summer, I saw this band perform, and David Draiman stopped his show to share his personal struggles, and had moments of silence for people to remember those lost to addiction or suicide, and how he'd almost joined them in the recent past, and how he fights for himself to be there for his son and to lead people from darkness to light. It was so powerful, and I could feel the presence of God in that concert last year, even though not in a church or worship service. I was crying and just being there in the moment, knowing God was working in the midst of many non-believers or former believers or people like me who also enjoy Disturbed and are Born-Again Christians. I do not agree with everything David supports or all the lyrics or messages, but I can see that God has given David and his band a voice in the darkness, in the wilderness.
I want to add something else. My father is a retired pastor (he and my mother are the kind of Christians who would likely embrace what you’re saying here). One Sunday he had my brother playing the piano and he very last minute whispered to him to play something prayerful during a quiet time of reflection. My brother kind of freaked and played a beautiful song… from an attraction at Epcot. No one besides my brother and me knew what the song was. After church this one lady challenged my brother as to whether the song he played was anointed. My father asked her who she was to even decide what or whom God had anointed! She didn’t really have an answer and left in a huff. I love that he said that to her.
I was at that show, the young gentleman Gabriel, was up there because he had a sign, saying he tried to kill himself, but survived and their music helped save his life.
Modern christians are taught to believe that selfish Greed, and "only I matter" Pride are godly virtues to be fully embraced, while the Sesame Street values of Sharing and Cooperation are now evil, satanic concepts.... socialist/communist style. The poor are there because they didn't give enough tax free money to the wealthy church leaders.
I’ve been a Christian AND a disturbed fan for a very long time. I have nothing against them at all. I find it odd when Christian’s call metal devil music. In my opinion, Metal is one of the deepest genres of music.
The reason why people call it "devil music", is because of the fringe stereotype from satanists (literal satanists, mind you.) Would use really disturbing tones, screams, and lyrics. So it became a "well that's all that it represents." But the real reason why music is attacked so much, is because of the devil himself. If you remember your bible's ancient teachings, the apocrypha, and further studies.. You'll know that the official title and place of the 'devil', the Archangel Lucifer, was that he created *all* of the music in the heavens. ^So the devil hates all music that humans create, and takes great strides to "demonize" all music, and what easier genre to attack then one that had already attacked itself? Hope that clears it up. ;P I'm a huge Sabaton and Powerwolf fan as well.
I couldn't agree more. You and I both know they've never listened this music. Self-righteous human beings who judge....and if they know the "bible they thump" they know ONLY God has the right to judge anyone! Bravo David Draiman! BRAVO!
@@gypsy1m6 That is not accurate per se. We are allowed to judge the sins of others, because God gave us the tools in which to do so. Because it is, in fact, not us who is judging, God has already made the judgment. Christians pointing out your sins is part of the great commission Christ gave to us, to spread the gospel, in which all have sinned, and all are guilty, and it is only through repentance and baptism into Christ that we are saved (Mark 16:!6). What are not supposed to do, is think that we are above the sinner, because without Christ, we would also be condemned. People who don't read the bible get this wrong. If people do not feel the shame and guilt of their sins, they will not realize that they need Christ to forgive them.
I'm a Christian and a heavy metal fan/musician. I get a lot of hate from my heavy metal friends for being christian and a little bit of push-back from my Christian friends about the music I listen to. I think the most important takeaway is that the spirit of Christ comes in unexpected ways.
I am 47 years old, been a baptized believer since I was 12, and I am an elder in my local church. I unashamedly and openly admit I love Disturbed and Dave Draiman. I love all kinds of heavy music and I also love contemporary Christian music and old hymns. I’m a fan of music that is meaningful and touches the lives of people. Of course I don’t look to Disturbed to be a teacher of theology but God can and will use their message for good.
I am 29 and grew up in church and still actively go and claim Jesus as my lord. I went to a disturbed concert 2 weeks ago with a buddy from church. The emotions you could feel I the room when "a reason to fight" came on was insane, so make hurting people just looking for healing, we really need to go to those places and offer to pray for people.
Disturbed is a lot more wholesome than the celebrities who are being pushed in the mainstream media. I went to my first Disturbed concert a few weeks ago and it felt like an intervention about lifting up others. God bless us!
This has been going on for decades and it's uneducated people. Most who have never listened to metal. The metal community is as diverse as humanity. A lot of people from different walks of life love metal. I'm a metalhead for life. I'm 61. I've been around the block a few times. David Draiman is an amazingly talented singer and songwriter. I love Disturbed.
@@screamingeagle7704 MAGA are blasphemers of God who have turned Donald Trump into an idol and want to overthrow the US government. They actually made a golden calf of Trump and were wheeling it around CPAC. Zero sympathy from me.
Funny thing is when Disturb'd released their album Immortalized a lot of critics and even longtime fans accused them of going soft for featuring the song "The Light" as the lead single. Some even said "they must be a Christian band now" as that song and others on the album seemed to offer hope instead of just anger. I actually bought that album and while I do prefer my music profanity-free, I like it overall. I've always loved their sound. It just took me a while to see what they're really about.
I just discovered Disturbed this week when I happened on The Sounds of Silence. I applaud anyone who speaks the truth and is concerned about the welfare of others. God bless David Draiman and his message.
As a Navy Chaplain and a fan of Disturbed for over 20 years (I saw them live for the third time two nights ago) I thoroughly agree. I believe that God can use anyone or anything for His glory, and the ministry (not necessarily Christian ministry, but he is ministering to others, perhaps coming from his Jewish faith) he is doing is changing lives. Christians need to be there to continue that ministry and to show them the Saviour that can set them truly free. Thanks for this!
"My brothers, my sisters, my blood." He is all inclusive. He wants anyine in darkness to find the light. I saw that from him a long time ago. I'm 58, Disturbed my first RAAA band.
Last Summer, I saw this band perform, and David Draiman stopped his show to share his personal struggles, and had moments of silence for people to remember those lost to addiction or suicide, and how he'd almost joined them in the recent past, and how he fights for himself to be there for his son and to lead people from darkness to light. It was so powerful, and I could feel the presence of God in that concert last year, even though not in a church or worship service. I was crying and just being there in the moment, knowing God was working in the midst of many non-believers or former believers or people like me who also enjoy Disturbed and are Born-Again Christians. I do not agree with everything David supports or all the lyrics or messages, but I can see that God has given David and his band a voice in the darkness, in the wilderness.
David is a devout Jew with strong convictions. His brother is a Rabi in Israel or was. There's a really interesting interview with David about his life before Disturbed. David is highly educated and had a great career before the band.
Holy crap! You're the most Christian person I've seen on youtube. You get it. God gave us MANY gifts. Samael cannot create anything. Music is not inherently evil or sinful, even if speaking or screaming about pain and addiction and darkness. It is art. It is David's expression of how he finds light through the dark.
You are right about that as the bible says that nothing is evil in itself. I get so tired of hypocrites blaming everything but themselves. They try to say music is evil or technology is evil but each of these hypocrites will stand before God and give account and can't blame anything but themselves. Satan cannot create anything as he is a parasite. Now sure it is a tool that can be used for good or evil depending on the focus of the lyrics. But there is no such thing as evil music. I'm more into instrumental metal myself.
Also we were made in Gods image therefore it is our duty to create, and Romans 8:28 says that all things work together for good for those called according to Gods purpose.. so that means it's not up to us to judge if someone's doing harm, because ultimately it's Gods decision to bring light out of that situation 😀 much love and many blessings brother!
@TLA-ml2lg beauty js in the eye of the beholder... the world is a mirror 🪞 ✨️ meaning we see in the world what we project from within us. Some people say Jesus sacrifice was this or that, or what God did with Abraham and Isaac was evil etc. Without a bigger context or even a passion for wanting to know the truth, it's just an excuse for people to argue because they're coming from a place of ego, which is satan or this parasitic entity you mentioned.
While I don't agree or support the Westboro Baptist Church, keep in mind that God is in full control and can and will utilize situation for His good. So while the protest might not have been the best move, having that protest out there gave David a reason to talk about it and preach and make those connections that might not have been able to have been made at that concert without the situation. It is possible that something else could have come up as well too, but at the same time I think be thankful for the protest to have been going on so that David was able to speak and set those seeds in the hearts and minds of the concert goers.
I've battled depression for over 30 years. I come from a very conservative southern baptist background. What David said and what you've mentioned in the video is the first time I've heard a Christian actually acknowledge the truth. The bible says that if we do not praise God, the rocks will cry out. What David did was more Christlike than any church service I've ever been to. It's all about conversion. I don't see it as anything more than that. Believe what I believe or go to hell. That's the real sin. David is right. Disturbed's music has helped me in more ways than I can count. Namaste David! The divine in me honors the divine in you.🙏
I met Disturbed after a show on their first tour. All members were very kind. They took the time to meet everyone that stayed after and spent time having genuine conversations with us. I pray for them to truly know Jesus as Jesus wants to know them.
I pray for them too, if he has a heart like this being in the world, imagine how powerful he will be when he has Christ in him. My wife was like this before she was saved and it messed with my theology, I asked, how can she have so much love kindness and mercy in her and not be from God yet not be saved. Some years later she had her God encounter and accepted jesus christ as her savior.
@@jturquoiseif you knew any world history you would realize that Western Civilization triumphed and became great because of the teachings of Jesus underlying our shared societal morals. How can an imaginary person shape world history and being peace and prosperity to humans? You are kidding yourself.
Love you brother! I love David. He is real. Love what he is doing at his concerts. He does have a heart for the fans. That church is what gives us " Christians" a bad name. In which I almost don't like to label myself as one. I consider myself a " Christ Follower". Btw, Stryper is my favorite band. Thanks for this great video! God Bless!
I hear exactly what you're saying. The only thing I want to encourage you in is this - The church needs you. If you love Jesus and can't stand the things that "the church" is doing, I hope you can get in and help your brothers and sisters to see the light. It's not easy. It requires Christ all the time, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. So, fellow Christ Follower...rock on! And may God use you for his purposes in the body that he is saving unto himself. God bless!
I love Stryper! And Michael Sweet has some really good songs all on his own separate from Stryper. Sweet and Lynch for example, and just Michael Sweet.
I am a born again Christian man I was just going through RUclips and came across a disturbed video David stopped the show and went down to the floor were a little girl was scared he took time to calm her down and talked to her. That is compassion and I respect David for that he truly cares about people. I pray that he of course becomes a Christian but his heart is in the right place. Our place as Christians are to love people where they are and be an example and show the love of Christ.
Saw that video. He was preaching Jesus Christ though his actions, weather he is a believer or not (I understand he's Jewish) Jesus will work through the people He chooses, in ways we would or could never expect. He is the way maker! God bless you 💛
The first time I saw that I was amazed. To me it almost seems like any revival will come from outside the church instead of within. That is the irony of these last days as the antichrist will work through religious deception. The Pharisee vipers will worship him. God is exposing this false church system in many ways.
Saw thar video a couple days ago then another video a year later he recognized the same family and girl and brought her and her mom up on stage and she had a couple small presents for him..
Record and read something controversial with good intentions and holiness. Now record and read that same material with bad intentions, fear and hate without expressive tones on both. Now backmask them and see how different they portray.
I am a chaplain in Healthcare. I get to spend much of my time in mental health holding groups. I too struggle with depression and anxiety. I am also a fan of Disturbed and respect David Draiman. I use his song Light as a teaching/encouragement exercise in my groups. David Draiman also spoke out on mental health from the stage - such good stuff.
Disturbed is my 71yr old dad’s favorite band. Took him to a concert a month ago…David does this at EVERY CONCERT!!! There are several metal Christian bands… #Skillet! But the Majority of society refuse to educate themselves. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” -Hosea 4:6 #WakeUpCall
The saddest part is how that so-called church (& any like them) don't even realize that Paul wrote his letters to the churches, not to the secular. The letters are meant to help the members grow into maturity. David has stirred more secular & non- secular spirits than many care to admit.
THANK YOU! I’ve been a Christian for 36 years and I’ve been to countless metal concerts. I’ve found more salvation in metal music despite the foul language and felt more love from that community despite bad habits than I ever have in any church. Legalism and Pietism is what scares people away. You’re not going to hell for enjoying a beer with your friends and liking a heavy song with profanity. Step outside your comfort zone and see that there are good people (not perfect) in midst of an evil world that just need to see someone not judge to take the right path. The gates of Hell are locked from the inside the people who are there want be there and away from God..
Yes, this. Church is full of hypocrites, I love my metal and the shows. I can be myself. There's a church in Dayton Oh, that caters to people like me. You should check them out. First heavy metal church of Christ. Just Google heavy metal church, and this will pop up.
@@clifflogan8807 I think we all can hypocrites in or out of church but yes I could definitely use a community of Christian’s that focus on the nature of God and a relationship with Christ that understand that God made us all different and not secular is evil.
God works in mysterious ways and I think any revival will come outside of the church because the church system has been an apostate Pharisee institution. There is more pagan tradition in them than true christianity. So no wonder why they have no good fruits. Jesus said we will know them by their fruits.
You're right as well as David! The #1 reason that people don't go to church is because of the hypocrisy and judgemental people that are churched. Jesus met people where they were and as Christ followers (Christians) we need to be doing the same. It's time to face what makes us uncomfortable and show the love and compassion that Christ had and called us to carry forth.
I attended 12 churches around Toronto for 4 years and they all kicked me out calling me 'satan' because I had questions they could not answer .I'm again Christian but will not step foot in some swanky hypocritical church keeping some fake Pastor rich with his tax free lifestyle!
Thank you for sharing. Very well presented. David Draiman is always supporting and is an advocate for people who suffer from depression & addiction & cares deeply. Many of Disturbed’s fans have said that their music has helped them get through some very dark times. As their song “The Light” says “sometimes darkness can show you the light”. This “church” needs to educate themselves and “grow up”.
Thank you for sharing this... I became a DISTURBED fan at 60... David Draiman and Disturbed's music... has powerful deep messages... as a Christian woman... I agree
What Mr drainman said was so biblical and quoting king Solomons wisdom everything under the sun is VANITY...so guard and protect your riches and possessions..and when you die someone that never earned a dime of it...will get it and spend it all on vanity..so enjoy your nothingness for nobody... chow kids
Thank you for giving your opinion on this!. Im a Christian metalhead and I used to play in a worship team in our local church. When my parents died no one in our church minister to me and comfort me enough, their words are shallow and heard it many times. I turned to metal music (mostly white metal).. Man, this genre talks about death, grief, depression, anxiety even hypocrisy in the churches. This genre is real and understand what its really feels like to be in the darkness. And because of that it brings comfort to those who are in that areas of reality of life.
The way you became emotional during this video touched me deeply. What you said is very true, i know he has helped more people that he even realizes! You dont have to look like a "christain" to do GODs work., I truely believe GOD will use David and his band more and more thruout the years! GOD bless you and everyone that reads this❤
The church actually does more than other organization, government, or band right now for people. It's just not reported on since it's eclectic, and we live in a fallen world. While I am happy that they are helping people get free from their addiction, the physical is not as important as the spiritual. I hope these people find peace and freedom in Christ because until that happens they are not truly free. While I'm not a fan of the protesting church I'm also not a fan of fellow Christians criticizing Christians using cults like this as a tool.
That's where you're wrong. Faith without works is dead. If you see someone in need, and you say "May God bless you" and do nothing, you're useless. Jesus took care of the physical first before reaching to their spiritual. Same as God in the Old Testament, God took care of of Elijah physically first before God thinks it ready to reach Elijiah's spiritual. The physical is as important as one's spiritual.
@smcs not sure what your implying here is wrong. Jesus taking care of the physical was meant to show God's glory. If your saying you have to fix the physical before the spiritual then you fundamentally wrong. If some one has stage 4 cancer will you proceed to cure his cancer? Or spread God's eternal life? It the same as his parable feed a man a fish and you feed him a day. Teach him to fish and you feed him a life time.
I think he’s trying to say that the church and its methods can be so spiritually minded that they have no earthly good. He was using Jesus’ example of attending to the physical needs of people that were sick before he talked about the eternal reality, perhaps he was also referring to Jesus‘s comments in Matthew, 25 “as you’ve done it unto the least of these you’ve done it unto me.”
@@vanillagorilla6990The problem with many people today is that they're so spiritual to the point they neglect the physical and become like the Gnostics - heretics who deem the physical creation to be evil. That's false and heretical.
I remember when Stryper went on tour with Motley Crue on the “heaven and he’ll” tour how the “church” criticized them. I told someone that was critical of Stryper that someone needing to hear the word that likes heavy music won’t go to a sandy patty concert. So where will they hear it? I like David and what he and his band is doing for those who need to hear the hope. Although not from the Word itself but God can use anyone even if they don’t know enough to feel “used” by God. Prayers for him to recognize God’s grace for himself
As a Baptist pastor, I marched in the counterprotest against Westboro when they were protesting the marital equality law in Maryland. Those of us who are truly Christian have no tolerance for that kind of hatred. David's assessment of Westboro's vanity is spot on. They think they are so important that they have a right to spew their vitriol. Their members will hear the "depart from me for I never knew you" message from Jesus.
@knastera yes. I googled them and let's say I am sure that God cries when they show up somewhere. One youth pastor once told us "A mouse can be born in a cookie box. That doesn't make the mouse a cookie." Meaning that someone can even be born into a church. That doesn't make them a Christian.
Thank you for this!! Makes me just love Disturbed more. I grew up in the church and in the past few years I have come to have a difficult time finding one that isn’t cult like. I agree with you on profanity. I went to a Catholic school for a year and the nun who taught the religion class said the same thing you do. That’s not going to kill us! It’s not what’s important. What’s worse than profanity is gossip, self-righteousness, addiction, etc. These are things I see and hear daily from people who claim to be Christians - people who are in church whenever the doors are open. Jesus had very strong words for people like them. They lack the ears to hear. Great video!!
I am an open Christian that is in a band that isn't Christian. I'm patiently waiting for the day Christians attack me for it. It'll happen eventually. We are called into the world to show the love of Christ. There is a serious need for this in that community. Its good to see that even non-Christians like David are seeing right through the evil side of these extreme religious groups. Im doing what I am doing to show the community that most Christians aren't like Westboro, nor do we align with them in any way. My church has a motto. "no perfect people allowed" We meet you where you are at even if its rock bottom. We don't shun people for not being a "model Christian". We need more churches onboard with this! Hate the sin. not the sinner.
I became a Disturbed One about 10 years ago and can safely say that if I hadn't I wouldn't be around to be posting this today. When I was in the darkest of places they released the album Evolution which had "A Reason To Fight" and "Hold On To The Memories" as tracks on it. Those 2 songs are the reason I am still above the grass and not below it. I am still a long way from being healed but each day I fight to take a step towards HIS light and become a better person for those closest to me and myself.
If I might make a suggestion? Listen to "Disciple" if you like this kind of music. They have some good ones on these topics too. Can't name the titles as I just stumbled over them myself yesterday. Funnily enough after my "encounter" with Disturbed brought me back to God.
There are some churches that do help people leading them to Jesus. They are skating all around Jesus he is the only way out of the darkness.This guy on stage cussing makes no sense. John the Baptist is far from from this guy on stage. I agree there music has nothing to do with Jesus. Theses people like to pick a verse from the Bible and think it's a good way to call out real people whom serve God .This band has nothing to do with Jesus and giving your life to him.Cussing can kill u if u use it to the wrong person.U really are blind if u r comparing him to John the Baptist disgusting.
@@jamesbenton1346 you’re not god and neither do you know of gods plan. This band has saved the lives of countless addicts and those who no longer wished to be on this earth. In your ignorance maybe you are unaware of just how many addicts and those with depression turn to god when they come out of their darkness. Maybe stay quiet next time and let god do the talking for you.
@@jamesbenton1346sigh.... no there is no mention of Jesus here. Simply because David hasn't found Him yet. So all who already know Jesus should pray for him. And he doesn't use a Bible verse against those who really do His work, but to hold a mirror to those who PRETEND to do His work.
As a recently reborn Christian and heavy metal lover I've just last few days found myself questioning my love for Disturbed. Your assessment is very enlightened and helped put context to my struggle with Disturbed. Thank you for this message and God bless you.
I've been feeling this same thing for a while. And I've struggled with the clean cut polo shirt shirt khaki pants judging crowd image for a while. I tried to be one of them. The blessing was is that I gained tons o Bible knowledge and tons of how "not to relate to people" experiences. I've had to revert back to some of the "Old Man" characteristics that were more accepting of people so that I can now more easily meet people where they are at and help shine light to dispell darkness.
For those of u who don't know David Draiman is actually Jewish and I've heard (this is alleged as I don't want to put words in his mouth) that Draiman does in fact believe in God. Now whether that's the God of the Bible that's a whole other thing but I do think he honestly wants to help people.
@@lorigirl65 I would agrue in fact that Christians and Jews at the very least share the Old Testament because the first five books are the Pentatuch which we agree on and for Jews the rest of the old testament is their history so in general we would agree with them on that. I find with Judaism and Christianity the only true difference is where we fall on Jesus Christ. For us Christians Jesus was the promised Jewish Messiah but for Rabbinical Jews (which modern Jews descend from and follow) they say that no Jesus was a prophet (and those are the nice ones. Some say he was a crazy guy and that the disciples stole his body then claimed he rose from the dead) and not the Son Of God.
Ephesians 5:8 For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light Psalm 119:130 The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple.
David is right. There is something very healing about the positive energy in the crowd at a concert. I am on medication for depression. And at a concert, be it Disturbed or, back in the day, Petra, the energy drives the demon of depression out. It's healing. And if you don't feel welcome at church, then a concert is a good place to receive healing.
I totally agree. We went to one of their concerts last year and he is definitely unconventional but moving in the trenches. I invite the people who are casting stones at David to really listen to the words of their songs. Although fairly mainstream they touch on a better way to live.
I subbed to you because of this! We are the Light of the world I was brought out of darkness and into the light, I have been set free and was once blind but now I can see!
David Draiman is a great man and singer. If you look at the cover of the "Believe" album, it is the 5 major religions' symbols combined as a sign that they should all work together and we should all get along. He is also Jewish, and was studying to be a Rabbi at one point in his life.
The question is where do the abused go? Abused by drugs….by alcohol…. By a parent…..a partner…..abused by not fitting into society?? To a “Church”??? Who judge appearances…..bad language used? “The church” that make it perfectly clear the broken people are not welcome. NOT EVERYONE FITS IN… OR IS Blatantly NOT OPENLY WELCOMING!! ….. Jesus came for the lost….the abused the mistreated…… the misfits. In all the years that I have worked with the abused, for close to 20 years now, I have seen much more appreciation and love towards kindness, and Gods light and genuine godly love, then I have ever seen from the so-called normal , then “ church”accept people…. Just like the band disturbed sings. Sometimes the darkness can show you the light, and it’s the truth where people are desperate in the darkness is where they need the light of the Lord. Jesus knew this, and this is what Jesus ❤ showed a bright light to guide people out of the darkness..
I dedicated my life to the Lord when I was 15, I got into Disturbed after 9/11. I faced some serious battles shortly after but as someone who I consider to be relatively knowledgeable in matters of spiritual warfare, you can still see God's protection over him(and even me in that regard). I don't know if you know who Jonathan Cahn is, but because of his testimony, I have a genuine hope that David will come to know the Lord Jesus Christ and become a powerful force in the battle we are facing.
This is a great video. As a new convert to Christianity I find myself saying the same thing. Sometimes the biggest thing that turns people away from Christ is the behaviour of Christians. I'd love to talk with you at some point, maybe collaborate in some way in the future?
YESSS! this video has given me a bit of hope that there are Christians like me out there!!!! As someone who loves metal music & is a christian … I have agreed with every word you said! Well put video! Thank you for sharing.
I think David grew up with a Jewish background. I may be wrong. It could be an influence on this behavior, though. Most metal musicians/ metal heads at the core are like this to some extent. Also, the algorithm is working for you 😆 .
Thank you for watching! You are correct he did grow up Jewish. I go to metal shows often and love the metal community. Thank you again for watching AND commenting!
justice, mercy and faith. Unity - one heart. what is Jesus all about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in this video. Where are all the Christians. The world cries out for redemption. If we’re not going following our call - then who is? Thank you 🙏🏼 One Love Greetings from Germany
This is such a good and correct take. I am 29, I grew up in church and still go. I just went to a disturbed concert 2 weeks ago, it was fantastic and you can feel the emotions in the room and from David.
Dark can not cast out the dark. Just because someone says something good about God doesn't mean they are right with Him. David needs Jesus just as much as those from Westboro Baptist do. Pray for them and pray for the church to wake up and be the hands and feet of Jesus.❤
Meet people where their at ❤️. I love his version of sound of silence. I’m a lone wolf christian, I don’t attend a church. I study the scripture. Thank you, you are so right.
I am a God fearing, Jesus loving, attend church every Sunday plus involved in other aspects of the church. It's a Southern Baptist church and I'm not sure how anyone else thinks about this subject but personally I love some of their music and also listen to Iron Maiden among others. I had a guy, who also attends the same church tell me that if God convicts you to stop listening to that type of music then you should and has yet to convict me otherwise. I have seen some of the concerts where David has literally stopped the show to engage with someone in need or hurting. He's a bigger "Christian" than some people I know. Keep up what your doing and don't take crap from religious groups protesting. Also don't judge all Baptist by one group, some of us support what you do. One parting thought, Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Whether someone is a Christian or not, Mr Draiman is a pretty intelligent guy. He's calling them out on their hypocrisy most likely. I get it that some people don't like cussing and I appreciate your take on it. My take on it is this. Not many words are banned or advised not to use in the Bible, but even the terrible 7 are not in there. It's not words that are going to hurt you but rather the hate infused in them that will. Speaking out of hatred or anger is really frowned upon. Great video!
David went from abandoning his Jewish faith to observing his Faith again! People should research him! I have great respect for him. He gets a lot of “H” on X daily for standing for Israel! David shows love to people and gives people hope who battle against dark in life!!
This is GOLD! We need to speak my friend. I am 18 minutes in and we are on the same page! We will be going to 3 music festivals this year in Florida, Ohio, and California. Are you close to Sacramento, Daytona Beach, or Mansfield, Ohio?
I've been a casual fan of Disturbed for years but, have gained way more respect for them after attending their concert a few years ago. People need to stop dictating what and who God can use. Jesus Himself was hated because He didn't fit the religious leaders standards.
I work in prison reentry. There are plenty of faithful in this world, but the Church as an institution is largely missing. I can count the number of people getting out of prison being shunned by local churches. They should be leading the fight, not fighting with the government. So many people suffer from substance abuse, mental health problems, and general lack of care. If the Church was leading this fight, there wouldn't be many problems left in this world.
@@Lithoscry to be completely up front I'm a non-theist but I respect the messages of Jesus. I study Buddhism and see a lot of parallels. I don't know the answer to everything or anything but I know that nothing will happen if I don't do something. If everybody did something the world would be a much better place. Not to mention, it feels great and I meet a lot of remarkable people! :)
To this day, despite ready to deliver twins with my wife for nearly 1 yr, I still struggle with the demons of depression and suicide. What David of Disturbed is doing is amazing.but when it comes to this church crap, many of us in the LGBTQ+ community still face biasness, and it is wrong. Thank y'all for letting me rant, and please be kind to one another
Be bold like John in the wilderness. Music isn’t the problem. It’s the hypocrites. We need ministry like this. Thank you. David is speaking a message of truth. We need to stop being woke and WAKE UP. People are dying every single day without knowing how to be set free. Music is more powerful than any sermon could ever be. That’s my feeling, anyway.
Lyrics of their song "The Night" asks "asr you gonna deny the Savior, in front of your eyes"... Very thought provoking that they're saying those kinds of lines. I became a fan 20+ years ago, been a Believer in Christ for 30+ years and a metal fan for 40+. Disturbed's songs always have me thinking about my faith and how I need to be separated from the world
I have been to many Disturbed concerts. I have always felt David "preaches" while on stage. It's very touching and I have seen people in the crowd in tears. A lady next to me was crying and I hugged her in support. All of their concerts have been wonderful experiences for me.
i once went to a Baptist church on a regular without ever missing a service until i got sick one weekend and had to work out of town the next weekend so the church sent two people to come check on me and i just so happened to be drinking a beer while grilling when they showed up and im a firm believer in come as you are.. so i invited them to eat and they refused.. however at the following service i was asked to come into an office and told i could no longer be a member of the church as im living in sin.. i looked at the guy and said but dont we all sin?? as i walked out i told him respectfully i dont wanna come back to this church!!!
Jesus made water into wine but it’s wrong to enjoy a beer while you cook your food? Lol I was just thinking the other day that if Jesus came again, modern Christianity would reject him just like the Pharisees.
This is why I no longer practice my raised born again Christian religion. While the people at my parents church walk the walk Christian’s are the most judgmental people on the planet. As if gods going to strike you down for having a beer. But if you were having a glass of wine I’m sure that would’ve been fine.
Honestly, as someone who's been studying scripture to understand it, that guy screwed up by expelling you from the church immediately. You're better off being at another church than there
There are a lot of comments on this wonderful and insightful video, so if this is a repeat, I apologize. I was at that show, and around the time of this talk he gave "his people" (honestly, he used that phrase), they did their song "Reason To Fight." There is a line in that song that is so powerful: When you're aching for the fire and begging for your sin. When there's nothing left inside, there's still a reason to fight. As a believer, I have ached from that fire and begged for the sin of my flesh and I turn to my Heavenly Father to fight my battle for me. If these lyrics, his words, can spark interest in someone to start looking, reading researching, asking questions, then isn't that a good thing? Isn't he leading a heart to God?
At least David helped people to go on one more day, when they might have killed themselves otherwise. And that "one more day" might all that's needed to put someone else in their way to show them the real light. Prayers that David finds the real light himself.
Brother you're so right, David has a Christian background and he cares about total strangers, we don't even see that kind of love in the church too often and I have always wanted to go to a disturbed concert and show people that we do love them and we want to see them set free from the darkness as Christ has set us free
In the last 6-7 months, ive been spearheading an unconventional ministry at my church called “the bridge.” Essentially I host monthly or 2 times a month local shows from musicians in the tri-state area. A lot of bands that seem to want to play are hardcore and metal bands, and tho a lot of the artist are almost the furthest thing from Christian as far as context, everyone is so nice and respectful and charitable and understanding of playing shows like this in a still active church. The only thing we have asked of them is to not intentionally slander the faith or the church, and to not have alcohol, and everything else is fair game. The goal of it is to just open dialogues with both concert attendees and band members. The biggest question I get is always “how the hell did you get a space like this to host shows?” To which I explain that I’ve been going to said church my entire life and when I proposed to the governing board my idea they understood where I was coming from and gave me the liberty to go forth and do it. I’ve been a concert junkie most of my life, been playing drums in various bands for the latter part of 20 years, and just meeting people and hearing their stories and hearing how church has pushed away people who are seeking through their actions has broken my heart. Like it or not, Christians have a habit of ruining Jesus for people. So I’m trying my best to “bridge the gap” and show folks who are outside of the church or have been wounded by the church that we aren’t as judgmental, or, threatening or imposing as people who misrepresented Christ portrayed us to be. It’s slow, but I’m seeing fruit from it. People who come to the shows tell me how safe and welcomed they feel and how much it stands in stark contrast to the typical bar show. And some even have told me that “this is the first time in a long time I’ve actually felt welcome in a church.” We often forget that the whole gospel is about God meeting us where we are at, and that’s how the church should be treating the world, we should meet them where they are at and walk along side them as they enter the doors of a church either for the first time, or the first time in a long time. If anyone is interested in following my endeavors, I’ve got an insta for it @thebridgebg
I’m not a practicing Christian anymore but I can tell you this will reach people. Sometimes people don’t even know they want to goto church until they are exposed to one. However most never are. You might be surprised by the outcome of your endeavors.
@@scray00 hey my friend, this means a lot, thank you. I’m already wildly surprised and humbled by some of the testimonies and stories people are offering up to me as they start to explore what this whole thing is about, and it’s been such a joy to be that conduit for people. I am but a mirror reflecting light.
I have always been a huge Disturbed fan. I've been blessed to see them live 3 times. I am happy to see you here. This is why I subscribed. I am a new follower of Jesus. I want to pick up my cross and follow in his steps. And you are right when you go in with a discerning heart, God leads us where we need to go. Thank you and God bless 🙏
I absolutely felt God on David Dramin in the sounds of silence video...as the music had died, and the dream that the words of the prophets were written on the subway walls😮 Where exactly are Bibles today? I heard an interview that revealed his heritage...and there it is. GOD used him to MOVE people. It Moved me THIS WEEK and im sharing it where religous can hear .❤❤ ❤❤❤❤
This article is clickbait. He didn't bring a "wake-up call to Christians", he was speaking out against Westboro Baptist, who does *not* represent the majority of Christians, even ones who agree with them about sexual issues. I am a very conservative Christian and I love Disturbed. They're one of my favorite modern rock/metal bands.
I have so much respect for David Draiman as a person, a dedicated vocalist, and as a parent and friend. I hope I’ll get to see Disturbed in concert one day. ❤️ I pray for David’s growth in Christ, to stay filled with the Holy Spirit, and increased boldness to share the Lord’s love and light. ❤
When i was from the world, i lovrd disturbed, i related to the music. But i have always been spiritually sensitive. After i had opened doors, i would use his music to enpower and actually envoke unclean demonic spirits. They are attracted to his music. I truly believe God can use him. He uses me and i was in witchcraft practices as well as deep addiction and God uses me because i serve Him. Only Him. I am a personal testimony of how powerful Deliverance is. Through and only through Jesus Christ... Anything else, no matter how close is a DECEPTION... I wasnt called to go to church to set people free, and probably neither was he. I was called to go to the darkest of dark places and help bring those living in darkness back to the light. But beware. The enemy will disguise himself as an angel of light, and deceive many. Each and every one of us will have to account for the work that we've done while we were alive on this Earth period. And the false teachers who said they were the light that were actually darkness, which is what it talks about in the end of Matthew, it will call the light dark in the dark light how dark is that darkness really. I believe that he can truly lead several generations to the light, if he becomes a true follower of Christ. And I do believe in these last days, God will definitely use him. Truth be told, he's living in deception and leading others to deception if he is pointing that there's any other way to the light and to Heaven that is not through Jesus Christ. And he must account for that, or repent I hope and pray he finds the truth. Even if Dave's conversion is a week before his death, he's got so many followers, one testimony of such a conversion can change the destination of a lot of Souls. So that's what I'm going to be praying for tonight...
I love the band Disturbed. I've been a Christian since I was a teenager and I've always listened to hard rock and heavy metal. God has told me not to listen to certain bands. He hasn't told me not to listen to Disturbed.
We are not supposed to JUDGE, ONLY OUR CREATOR JUDGES. I have seen too many churches totally put down someone who may be going the wrong path. You are supposed to love that person, and with a caring HEART, bring the Creator to them. AS A CHRISTIAN, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACT BETTER THAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT FOUND OUR CREATOR. YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO LOVE THEM.
John 8:12 Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
Ephesians 5:14 For anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says, “Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”
I've heard David talk in many interviews and he is very elegant and he obviously has a heart to help people who are hurtimg because he's been where they are so he understands the need for offering a helping hand. I dont really listen to much of their music because it really isnt my style anymore as I grew up in the 80s with metal bands and just kinda grew out of it. But that being said, I can appriciate that he is trying to use thier music to both entertain and to reach people where they are which is a beautiful thing. I hope and pray that his ministry will continue to be a blessing to him and his band as well as to those who hear their music because sometimes its the music we least expect that reaches those who are hurting the most.
I am 60 years old and LOVE Disturbed I think they are a great group and music if you listen to the words. I have yet to hear ANY glory to the satan scene or killing police or taking advantage of women. I think David is probably a Christian and is actually a great person.
I am a Christian who cusses more than his fair share. Bono from U2 also cusses a lot, but is a committed Christian. We all struggle with our sins, vices and weak points. The point is to grow with time, and part of the growth is to wrestle with these issues. Sometimes we have to meet folks where they are, whether you cuss to make a point, other times refraining from it to abide by some social conventions with others. God is patient in our growth.
Metal isnt the evil..its the heart of man that is evil. Ive loved metal since i was 13 and been a christian since before that. Some bands have a good message, helping ppl in addiction & depression. God frees us in whatever way He wills
Well said my brother! It's so sad that the state of the church is currently so shameful 😢. Was it not the Messiah who said "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"? Jesus Christ came for the sinner not the saved!!!
I saw Disturbed a few years back. It was absolutely the most positive and uplifting rock show I’ve ever seen. David truly loves people. And the show rocked.
Please know that I come not as a critic, but as someone who has questions. I am a 60 year old recovering alcoholic and bar band refugee. The process of recovery landed me in a church where I came to know Christ as my Savior and my Deliverer. I enjoy Disturbed, and I truly believe that David Draiman's heart is genuine. I have seen him shed tears for the hurting and I believe that his desire to see people set free from the bonds of addiction and mental illness come from a very real place. But in all of this, where is Jesus? I hear lots of talk about God, about Elisha, about John the Baptist, but they were all pointing the way to Jesus the Christ. If we're seeing people set free from the chains of addiction and mental illness, chains which I have worn myself, yet we do not lead them to the source of true freedom from sin (See John 8:36), aren't we doing them a tremendous disservice? Can we claim to lead them to God, and yet leave Jesus out of the equation? (See John 14:6) Again, I don't claim to be an authority; I'm searching for answers too.
That's exactly why you don't trust this guy here and David Draiman. This youtube guy and David are falsely decieved they think they're on a crusade of justice and doing things right but a man can think of many things as right but in the end it leads to death if you remember that verse in the bible.
Amen!
You are asking the right questions. What I have seen from this clip of the singer and what he had to say comes from a place of vanity. Not all vanity slaps you in the face. sin and Satan come on subtle and in the guise of compassion and what is truly right. he finds the cracks and finds the weaknes and takes the good and slowly twists it. you don't see it hitting you until you are already hit. the vanity and condensation in what and how he says while attempting a moral high ground it's not God or Jesus or John the Baptist kind of moment. this is a learning moment but one in which what we should learn is that it is God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit that lead us to freedom and light. If he wanted to make a point and moment he should have spoke about salvation and coming to christ and said a prayer for the church and its members and the people of the show. It would have been a much more powerful statement to be humble and surrender it to God.
He is Jewish but you are seeing the same thing I’ve seen for a while. The hope is that people like David find themselves knowing Jesus and it has been happening. I listen to less music than I used to but a few metal still make the cut because of the positive messages they sing.
I agree with you, but... on a personal note...
Last Summer, I saw this band perform, and David Draiman stopped his show to share his personal struggles, and had moments of silence for people to remember those lost to addiction or suicide, and how he'd almost joined them in the recent past, and how he fights for himself to be there for his son and to lead people from darkness to light. It was so powerful, and I could feel the presence of God in that concert last year, even though not in a church or worship service. I was crying and just being there in the moment, knowing God was working in the midst of many non-believers or former believers or people like me who also enjoy Disturbed and are Born-Again Christians. I do not agree with everything David supports or all the lyrics or messages, but I can see that God has given David and his band a voice in the darkness, in the wilderness.
I want to add something else. My father is a retired pastor (he and my mother are the kind of Christians who would likely embrace what you’re saying here). One Sunday he had my brother playing the piano and he very last minute whispered to him to play something prayerful during a quiet time of reflection. My brother kind of freaked and played a beautiful song… from an attraction at Epcot. No one besides my brother and me knew what the song was. After church this one lady challenged my brother as to whether the song he played was anointed. My father asked her who she was to even decide what or whom God had anointed! She didn’t really have an answer and left in a huff. I love that he said that to her.
Love it! That is spot on!
Answer nobody's questions!
We know Whom to adore.
Know why?
cuz , 🎶 Jesus is Just Alright, oh yeaaah!
(Doobie Brothers)
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Now that is a man of God! You are so blessed to be his child and learn from him the way to defend against the Pharisees.
I was at that show, the young gentleman Gabriel, was up there because he had a sign, saying he tried to kill himself, but survived and their music helped save his life.
God is definitely working thru this band!!
God will choose any vessel to do His work. Even someone who is not a believer and even someone evil. @@evawaco2949
That's a lie....
@@lawrencetalo8347You don't know that. God is NOT mocked and He can and will use all things together for His good.
Modern christians are taught to believe that selfish Greed, and "only I matter" Pride are godly virtues to be fully embraced, while the Sesame Street values of Sharing and Cooperation are now evil, satanic concepts.... socialist/communist style. The poor are there because they didn't give enough tax free money to the wealthy church leaders.
I’ve been a Christian AND a disturbed fan for a very long time. I have nothing against them at all. I find it odd when Christian’s call metal devil music. In my opinion, Metal is one of the deepest genres of music.
The reason why people call it "devil music", is because of the fringe stereotype from satanists (literal satanists, mind you.) Would use really disturbing tones, screams, and lyrics. So it became a "well that's all that it represents."
But the real reason why music is attacked so much, is because of the devil himself. If you remember your bible's ancient teachings, the apocrypha, and further studies.. You'll know that the official title and place of the 'devil', the Archangel Lucifer, was that he created *all* of the music in the heavens.
^So the devil hates all music that humans create, and takes great strides to "demonize" all music, and what easier genre to attack then one that had already attacked itself?
Hope that clears it up. ;P I'm a huge Sabaton and Powerwolf fan as well.
Check out fit for a king, super heavy and super Christian. There’s many bands now adays in metal that portray such a good and positive message
@@StylesEste I agree wholeheartedly. Satan uses a lot more than just music though. By their logic we would have to treat a lot of things different.
I couldn't agree more. You and I both know they've never listened this music. Self-righteous human beings who judge....and if they know the "bible they thump" they know ONLY God has the right to judge anyone! Bravo David Draiman! BRAVO!
@@gypsy1m6 That is not accurate per se. We are allowed to judge the sins of others, because God gave us the tools in which to do so. Because it is, in fact, not us who is judging, God has already made the judgment. Christians pointing out your sins is part of the great commission Christ gave to us, to spread the gospel, in which all have sinned, and all are guilty, and it is only through repentance and baptism into Christ that we are saved (Mark 16:!6). What are not supposed to do, is think that we are above the sinner, because without Christ, we would also be condemned. People who don't read the bible get this wrong. If people do not feel the shame and guilt of their sins, they will not realize that they need Christ to forgive them.
I'm a Christian and a heavy metal fan/musician. I get a lot of hate from my heavy metal friends for being christian and a little bit of push-back from my Christian friends about the music I listen to. I think the most important takeaway is that the spirit of Christ comes in unexpected ways.
I am 47 years old, been a baptized believer since I was 12, and I am an elder in my local church. I unashamedly and openly admit I love Disturbed and Dave Draiman. I love all kinds of heavy music and I also love contemporary Christian music and old hymns. I’m a fan of music that is meaningful and touches the lives of people. Of course I don’t look to Disturbed to be a teacher of theology but God can and will use their message for good.
Perfectly said 👏!!!
I am 29 and grew up in church and still actively go and claim Jesus as my lord. I went to a disturbed concert 2 weeks ago with a buddy from church. The emotions you could feel I the room when "a reason to fight" came on was insane, so make hurting people just looking for healing, we really need to go to those places and offer to pray for people.
Amen
The Book of Psalms is Hymns and Songs
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Disturbed is a lot more wholesome than the celebrities who are being pushed in the mainstream media. I went to my first Disturbed concert a few weeks ago and it felt like an intervention about lifting up others. God bless us!
Exactly!!!!
This has been going on for decades and it's uneducated people. Most who have never listened to metal. The metal community is as diverse as humanity. A lot of people from different walks of life love metal. I'm a metalhead for life. I'm 61. I've been around the block a few times. David Draiman is an amazingly talented singer and songwriter. I love Disturbed.
I will agree, but some metal fans have attacked and mocked MAGA and conservatives.
Their song “The Light” is such a powerful comfort to me. The first time I heard it, I cried. It is so hopeful it must be inspired by a higher power.
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What is your point - Maga are an evil cult - easy to agree with
Total Evil & how can you be a Christian and be part of that cult
a lot of people don't realize that... Ronnie James Dio was a Catholic lol
@@screamingeagle7704 MAGA are blasphemers of God who have turned Donald Trump into an idol and want to overthrow the US government. They actually made a golden calf of Trump and were wheeling it around CPAC. Zero sympathy from me.
Funny thing is when Disturb'd released their album Immortalized a lot of critics and even longtime fans accused them of going soft for featuring the song "The Light" as the lead single. Some even said "they must be a Christian band now" as that song and others on the album seemed to offer hope instead of just anger. I actually bought that album and while I do prefer my music profanity-free, I like it overall. I've always loved their sound. It just took me a while to see what they're really about.
I just discovered Disturbed this week when I happened on The Sounds of Silence. I applaud anyone who speaks the truth and is concerned about the welfare of others. God bless David Draiman and his message.
Check out the duet he just did recently with Ann Wilson from Heart. Great song
As a Navy Chaplain and a fan of Disturbed for over 20 years (I saw them live for the third time two nights ago) I thoroughly agree. I believe that God can use anyone or anything for His glory, and the ministry (not necessarily Christian ministry, but he is ministering to others, perhaps coming from his Jewish faith) he is doing is changing lives. Christians need to be there to continue that ministry and to show them the Saviour that can set them truly free. Thanks for this!
"My brothers, my sisters, my blood." He is all inclusive. He wants anyine in darkness to find the light. I saw that from him a long time ago. I'm 58, Disturbed my first RAAA band.
Last Summer, I saw this band perform, and David Draiman stopped his show to share his personal struggles, and had moments of silence for people to remember those lost to addiction or suicide, and how he'd almost joined them in the recent past, and how he fights for himself to be there for his son and to lead people from darkness to light. It was so powerful, and I could feel the presence of God in that concert last year, even though not in a church or worship service. I was crying and just being there in the moment, knowing God was working in the midst of many non-believers or former believers or people like me who also enjoy Disturbed and are Born-Again Christians. I do not agree with everything David supports or all the lyrics or messages, but I can see that God has given David and his band a voice in the darkness, in the wilderness.
Hoorah Chaps
David is a devout Jew with strong convictions. His brother is a Rabi in Israel or was. There's a really interesting interview with David about his life before Disturbed. David is highly educated and had a great career before the band.
Holy crap! You're the most Christian person I've seen on youtube. You get it. God gave us MANY gifts. Samael cannot create anything. Music is not inherently evil or sinful, even if speaking or screaming about pain and addiction and darkness. It is art. It is David's expression of how he finds light through the dark.
Don't be deceived by false prophets.
You are right about that as the bible says that nothing is evil in itself. I get so tired of hypocrites blaming everything but themselves. They try to say music is evil or technology is evil but each of these hypocrites will stand before God and give account and can't blame anything but themselves. Satan cannot create anything as he is a parasite. Now sure it is a tool that can be used for good or evil depending on the focus of the lyrics. But there is no such thing as evil music. I'm more into instrumental metal myself.
Also we were made in Gods image therefore it is our duty to create, and Romans 8:28 says that all things work together for good for those called according to Gods purpose.. so that means it's not up to us to judge if someone's doing harm, because ultimately it's Gods decision to bring light out of that situation 😀 much love and many blessings brother!
@TLA-ml2lg beauty js in the eye of the beholder... the world is a mirror 🪞 ✨️ meaning we see in the world what we project from within us. Some people say Jesus sacrifice was this or that, or what God did with Abraham and Isaac was evil etc. Without a bigger context or even a passion for wanting to know the truth, it's just an excuse for people to argue because they're coming from a place of ego, which is satan or this parasitic entity you mentioned.
@@johntsirakidis9544like the false prophets at Westboro?
While I don't agree or support the Westboro Baptist Church, keep in mind that God is in full control and can and will utilize situation for His good. So while the protest might not have been the best move, having that protest out there gave David a reason to talk about it and preach and make those connections that might not have been able to have been made at that concert without the situation. It is possible that something else could have come up as well too, but at the same time I think be thankful for the protest to have been going on so that David was able to speak and set those seeds in the hearts and minds of the concert goers.
Very well said!
I've battled depression for over 30 years. I come from a very conservative southern baptist background. What David said and what you've mentioned in the video is the first time I've heard a Christian actually acknowledge the truth. The bible says that if we do not praise God, the rocks will cry out. What David did was more Christlike than any church service I've ever been to. It's all about conversion. I don't see it as anything more than that. Believe what I believe or go to hell. That's the real sin. David is right. Disturbed's music has helped me in more ways than I can count. Namaste David! The divine in me honors the divine in you.🙏
I met Disturbed after a show on their first tour. All members were very kind. They took the time to meet everyone that stayed after and spent time having genuine conversations with us. I pray for them to truly know Jesus as Jesus wants to know them.
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I pray for them too, if he has a heart like this being in the world, imagine how powerful he will be when he has Christ in him. My wife was like this before she was saved and it messed with my theology, I asked, how can she have so much love kindness and mercy in her and not be from God yet not be saved. Some years later she had her God encounter and accepted jesus christ as her savior.
@@jturquoise Laugh it up, there's a reason you aren't being kind.
@@otallono Jesus is a Myth silly goose.
Only children believe in Jesus.
Just as only children believe in Santa Claus
@@jturquoiseif you knew any world history you would realize that Western Civilization triumphed and became great because of the teachings of Jesus underlying our shared societal morals.
How can an imaginary person shape world history and being peace and prosperity to humans? You are kidding yourself.
Love you brother! I love David. He is real. Love what he is doing at his concerts. He does have a heart for the fans. That church is what gives us " Christians" a bad name. In which I almost don't like to label myself as one. I consider myself a " Christ Follower". Btw, Stryper is my favorite band. Thanks for this great video! God Bless!
Thank you for watching and thank you for your encouragement!
TO HELL WITH THE DEVIL!!!! Styper🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🤟🤟🤟
@@stephenbartush2237 yes!!!! 🤟🏻
I hear exactly what you're saying. The only thing I want to encourage you in is this - The church needs you. If you love Jesus and can't stand the things that "the church" is doing, I hope you can get in and help your brothers and sisters to see the light. It's not easy. It requires Christ all the time, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. So, fellow Christ Follower...rock on! And may God use you for his purposes in the body that he is saving unto himself. God bless!
I love Stryper! And Michael Sweet has some really good songs all on his own separate from Stryper. Sweet and Lynch for example, and just Michael Sweet.
I am a born again Christian man I was just going through RUclips and came across a disturbed video David stopped the show and went down to the floor were a little girl was scared he took time to calm her down and talked to her. That is compassion and I respect David for that he truly cares about people. I pray that he of course becomes a Christian but his heart is in the right place. Our place as Christians are to love people where they are and be an example and show the love of Christ.
Yes I saw this too
Saw that video. He was preaching Jesus Christ though his actions, weather he is a believer or not (I understand he's Jewish) Jesus will work through the people He chooses, in ways we would or could never expect. He is the way maker! God bless you 💛
The first time I saw that I was amazed. To me it almost seems like any revival will come from outside the church instead of within. That is the irony of these last days as the antichrist will work through religious deception. The Pharisee vipers will worship him. God is exposing this false church system in many ways.
Saw thar video a couple days ago then another video a year later he recognized the same family and girl and brought her and her mom up on stage and she had a couple small presents for him..
Bro today is my first time coming across your content, I deeply understand both worlds, metal and Christianity ,
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Ditto!
In Satan's name I command you to listen to Slayer records backwards 🤘😈🤘
Record and read something controversial with good intentions and holiness. Now record and read that same material with bad intentions, fear and hate without expressive tones on both. Now backmask them and see how different they portray.
I am a chaplain in Healthcare. I get to spend much of my time in mental health holding groups. I too struggle with depression and anxiety. I am also a fan of Disturbed and respect David Draiman. I use his song Light as a teaching/encouragement exercise in my groups. David Draiman also spoke out on mental health from the stage - such good stuff.
Disturbed is my 71yr old dad’s favorite band. Took him to a concert a month ago…David does this at EVERY CONCERT!!! There are several metal Christian bands… #Skillet! But the Majority of society refuse to educate themselves. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” -Hosea 4:6
#WakeUpCall
The saddest part is how that so-called church (& any like them) don't even realize that Paul wrote his letters to the churches, not to the secular. The letters are meant to help the members grow into maturity. David has stirred more secular & non- secular spirits than many care to admit.
THANK YOU! I’ve been a Christian for 36 years and I’ve been to countless metal concerts. I’ve found more salvation in metal music despite the foul language and felt more love from that community despite bad habits than I ever have in any church. Legalism and Pietism is what scares people away. You’re not going to hell for enjoying a beer with your friends and liking a heavy song with profanity. Step outside your comfort zone and see that there are good people (not perfect) in midst of an evil world that just need to see someone not judge to take the right path. The gates of Hell are locked from the inside the people who are there want be there and away from God..
Yes, this. Church is full of hypocrites, I love my metal and the shows. I can be myself. There's a church in Dayton Oh, that caters to people like me. You should check them out. First heavy metal church of Christ. Just Google heavy metal church, and this will pop up.
@@clifflogan8807 I think we all can hypocrites in or out of church but yes I could definitely use a community of Christian’s that focus on the nature of God and a relationship with Christ that understand that God made us all different and not secular is evil.
God works in mysterious ways and I think any revival will come outside of the church because the church system has been an apostate Pharisee institution. There is more pagan tradition in them than true christianity. So no wonder why they have no good fruits. Jesus said we will know them by their fruits.
You're right as well as David! The #1 reason that people don't go to church is because of the hypocrisy and judgemental people that are churched. Jesus met people where they were and as Christ followers (Christians) we need to be doing the same. It's time to face what makes us uncomfortable and show the love and compassion that Christ had and called us to carry forth.
I attended 12 churches around Toronto for 4 years and they all kicked me out calling me 'satan' because I had questions they could not answer .I'm again Christian but will not step foot in some swanky hypocritical church keeping some fake Pastor rich with his tax free lifestyle!
Went to a disturbed concert in 2011 and it was amazing it felt like a religious experience it was so powerful.
Thank you for sharing. Very well presented. David Draiman is always supporting and is an advocate for people who suffer from depression & addiction & cares deeply. Many of Disturbed’s fans have said that their music has helped them get through some very dark times. As their song “The Light” says “sometimes darkness can show you the light”. This “church” needs to educate themselves and “grow up”.
VERY... Profound .... Line for this time we are in!!! 😤😤😤😤😤 When it gets dark enough you've... Just gotta know.... THERE IS A LIGHT 🕯️!!!!
Thank you for sharing this... I became a DISTURBED fan at 60... David Draiman and Disturbed's music... has powerful deep messages... as a Christian woman... I agree
Especially when he says “Ooh wah ah ah ah.”
I felt that one deep in my soul.
@@Zukadic you only hear the radio version of that don’t you?
@@Jim87_36 Lol why do you ask? You don’t think I know about the part he screams about his mommy for 30 seconds? 😂
I agree I love Stryper and a lot of so called Christians said that their music is of the devil 👿.
What Mr drainman said was so biblical and quoting king Solomons wisdom everything under the sun is VANITY...so guard and protect your riches and possessions..and when you die someone that never earned a dime of it...will get it and spend it all on vanity..so enjoy your nothingness for nobody... chow kids
Thank you for giving your opinion on this!. Im a Christian metalhead and I used to play in a worship team in our local church. When my parents died no one in our church minister to me and comfort me enough, their words are shallow and heard it many times. I turned to metal music (mostly white metal).. Man, this genre talks about death, grief, depression, anxiety even hypocrisy in the churches. This genre is real and understand what its really feels like to be in the darkness. And because of that it brings comfort to those who are in that areas of reality of life.
I'm a church elder. My favorite listenings in my big truck are The Hu and Disturbed - Down With The Sickness! Ooh wa-a-a-a!!!
The way you became emotional during this video touched me deeply. What you said is very true, i know he has helped more people that he even realizes! You dont have to look like a "christain" to do GODs work., I truely believe GOD will use David and his band more and more thruout the years! GOD bless you and everyone that reads this❤
Amen
The church actually does more than other organization, government, or band right now for people. It's just not reported on since it's eclectic, and we live in a fallen world. While I am happy that they are helping people get free from their addiction, the physical is not as important as the spiritual. I hope these people find peace and freedom in Christ because until that happens they are not truly free. While I'm not a fan of the protesting church I'm also not a fan of fellow Christians criticizing Christians using cults like this as a tool.
That's where you're wrong. Faith without works is dead. If you see someone in need, and you say "May God bless you" and do nothing, you're useless. Jesus took care of the physical first before reaching to their spiritual. Same as God in the Old Testament, God took care of of Elijah physically first before God thinks it ready to reach Elijiah's spiritual. The physical is as important as one's spiritual.
@smcs not sure what your implying here is wrong. Jesus taking care of the physical was meant to show God's glory. If your saying you have to fix the physical before the spiritual then you fundamentally wrong. If some one has stage 4 cancer will you proceed to cure his cancer? Or spread God's eternal life? It the same as his parable feed a man a fish and you feed him a day. Teach him to fish and you feed him a life time.
I think he’s trying to say that the church and its methods can be so spiritually minded that they have no earthly good. He was using Jesus’ example of attending to the physical needs of people that were sick before he talked about the eternal reality, perhaps he was also referring to Jesus‘s comments in Matthew, 25 “as you’ve done it unto the least of these you’ve done it unto me.”
@@vanillagorilla6990The problem with many people today is that they're so spiritual to the point they neglect the physical and become like the Gnostics - heretics who deem the physical creation to be evil. That's false and heretical.
@@smcs No. Vanilla is correct. We are not to be of this world. The spiritual is infinitely more important than this temporary realm.
I remember when Stryper went on tour with Motley Crue on the “heaven and he’ll” tour how the “church” criticized them. I told someone that was critical of Stryper that someone needing to hear the word that likes heavy music won’t go to a sandy patty concert. So where will they hear it? I like David and what he and his band is doing for those who need to hear the hope. Although not from the Word itself but God can use anyone even if they don’t know enough to feel “used” by God. Prayers for him to recognize God’s grace for himself
I love Stryper and Disturbed both awesome bands.
As a Baptist pastor, I marched in the counterprotest against Westboro when they were protesting the marital equality law in Maryland. Those of us who are truly Christian have no tolerance for that kind of hatred. David's assessment of Westboro's vanity is spot on. They think they are so important that they have a right to spew their vitriol. Their members will hear the "depart from me for I never knew you" message from Jesus.
@knastera yes. I googled them and let's say I am sure that God cries when they show up somewhere.
One youth pastor once told us "A mouse can be born in a cookie box. That doesn't make the mouse a cookie." Meaning that someone can even be born into a church. That doesn't make them a Christian.
Thank you for this!! Makes me just love Disturbed more. I grew up in the church and in the past few years I have come to have a difficult time finding one that isn’t cult like. I agree with you on profanity. I went to a Catholic school for a year and the nun who taught the religion class said the same thing you do. That’s not going to kill us! It’s not what’s important. What’s worse than profanity is gossip, self-righteousness, addiction, etc. These are things I see and hear daily from people who claim to be Christians - people who are in church whenever the doors are open. Jesus had very strong words for people like them. They lack the ears to hear. Great video!!
Thank you!
I am an open Christian that is in a band that isn't Christian. I'm patiently waiting for the day Christians attack me for it. It'll happen eventually. We are called into the world to show the love of Christ. There is a serious need for this in that community. Its good to see that even non-Christians like David are seeing right through the evil side of these extreme religious groups. Im doing what I am doing to show the community that most Christians aren't like Westboro, nor do we align with them in any way. My church has a motto. "no perfect people allowed" We meet you where you are at even if its rock bottom. We don't shun people for not being a "model Christian". We need more churches onboard with this! Hate the sin. not the sinner.
Stay the course. You are where you need for be no matter what people may say or think. May you see great fruit from your ministry.
I became a Disturbed One about 10 years ago and can safely say that if I hadn't I wouldn't be around to be posting this today.
When I was in the darkest of places they released the album Evolution which had "A Reason To Fight" and "Hold On To The Memories" as tracks on it. Those 2 songs are the reason I am still above the grass and not below it. I am still a long way from being healed but each day I fight to take a step towards HIS light and become a better person for those closest to me and myself.
Lots of love to you and congratulations for continuing to fight to stay here with a family I’m sure needs you. ❤
If I might make a suggestion? Listen to "Disciple" if you like this kind of music. They have some good ones on these topics too. Can't name the titles as I just stumbled over them myself yesterday. Funnily enough after my "encounter" with Disturbed brought me back to God.
Well stated. I pray someone will bring this to David's attention.
There are some churches that do help people leading them to Jesus. They are skating all around Jesus he is the only way out of the darkness.This guy on stage cussing makes no sense. John the Baptist is far from from this guy on stage. I agree there music has nothing to do with Jesus. Theses people like to pick a verse from the Bible and think it's a good way to call out real people whom serve God .This band has nothing to do with Jesus and giving your life to him.Cussing can kill u if u use it to the wrong person.U really are blind if u r comparing him to John the Baptist disgusting.
@@jamesbenton1346 you’re not god and neither do you know of gods plan. This band has saved the lives of countless addicts and those who no longer wished to be on this earth. In your ignorance maybe you are unaware of just how many addicts and those with depression turn to god when they come out of their darkness. Maybe stay quiet next time and let god do the talking for you.
@@jamesbenton1346sigh.... no there is no mention of Jesus here. Simply because David hasn't found Him yet. So all who already know Jesus should pray for him. And he doesn't use a Bible verse against those who really do His work, but to hold a mirror to those who PRETEND to do His work.
As a recently reborn Christian and heavy metal lover I've just last few days found myself questioning my love for Disturbed. Your assessment is very enlightened and helped put context to my struggle with Disturbed. Thank you for this message and God bless you.
Much respect to David and Disturbed !
Draiman is spot on.
I've been feeling this same thing for a while. And I've struggled with the clean cut polo shirt shirt khaki pants judging crowd image for a while. I tried to be one of them. The blessing was is that I gained tons o Bible knowledge and tons of how "not to relate to people" experiences. I've had to revert back to some of the "Old Man" characteristics that were more accepting of people so that I can now more easily meet people where they are at and help shine light to dispell darkness.
For those of u who don't know David Draiman is actually Jewish and I've heard (this is alleged as I don't want to put words in his mouth) that Draiman does in fact believe in God. Now whether that's the God of the Bible that's a whole other thing but I do think he honestly wants to help people.
Jewish or not, we share the Old Testament. The Pentatuch anyway!
@@lorigirl65 I would agrue in fact that Christians and Jews at the very least share the Old Testament because the first five books are the Pentatuch which we agree on and for Jews the rest of the old testament is their history so in general we would agree with them on that. I find with Judaism and Christianity the only true difference is where we fall on Jesus Christ. For us Christians Jesus was the promised Jewish Messiah but for Rabbinical Jews (which modern Jews descend from and follow) they say that no Jesus was a prophet (and those are the nice ones. Some say he was a crazy guy and that the disciples stole his body then claimed he rose from the dead) and not the Son Of God.
They both need prayer, they both need Jesus as we all do.🙏
Ephesians 5:8
For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light
Psalm 119:130
The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple.
I agree with you. David Draiman's speech contained a lot of truth and certainly a lot of spiritual truth.
David is right. There is something very healing about the positive energy in the crowd at a concert. I am on medication for depression. And at a concert, be it Disturbed or, back in the day, Petra, the energy drives the demon of depression out. It's healing. And if you don't feel welcome at church, then a concert is a good place to receive healing.
as a catholic i really appreciate this message because david draimen is truly a humble man wirh a beautiful soul so true and finally someone got it
I totally agree. We went to one of their concerts last year and he is definitely unconventional but moving in the trenches. I invite the people who are casting stones at David to really listen to the words of their songs. Although fairly mainstream they touch on a better way to live.
I subbed to you because of this! We are the Light of the world I was brought out of darkness and into the light, I have been set free and was once blind but now I can see!
Thank you so much! I rejoice with you!
David Draiman is a great man and singer. If you look at the cover of the "Believe" album, it is the 5 major religions' symbols combined as a sign that they should all work together and we should all get along. He is also Jewish, and was studying to be a Rabbi at one point in his life.
I'm seeing PLENTY of deliverance in Celebrate Recovery meetings!
The question is where do the abused go? Abused by drugs….by alcohol…. By a parent…..a partner…..abused by not fitting into society?? To a “Church”??? Who judge appearances…..bad language used? “The church” that make it perfectly clear the broken people are not welcome. NOT EVERYONE FITS IN… OR IS Blatantly NOT OPENLY WELCOMING!! ….. Jesus came for the lost….the abused the mistreated…… the misfits.
In all the years that I have worked with the abused, for close to 20 years now, I have seen much more appreciation and love towards kindness, and Gods light and genuine godly love, then I have ever seen from the so-called normal , then “ church”accept people….
Just like the band disturbed sings. Sometimes the darkness can show you the light, and it’s the truth where people are desperate in the darkness is where they need the light of the Lord. Jesus knew this, and this is what Jesus ❤ showed a bright light to guide people out of the darkness..
That's what attracted me to them. They are fantastic ❤
I dedicated my life to the Lord when I was 15, I got into Disturbed after 9/11. I faced some serious battles shortly after but as someone who I consider to be relatively knowledgeable in matters of spiritual warfare, you can still see God's protection over him(and even me in that regard). I don't know if you know who Jonathan Cahn is, but because of his testimony, I have a genuine hope that David will come to know the Lord Jesus Christ and become a powerful force in the battle we are facing.
I'll be 43 in April, btw.
I definitely think he will be among the 144,000 during the 7 year tribulation.
This is a great video. As a new convert to Christianity I find myself saying the same thing. Sometimes the biggest thing that turns people away from Christ is the behaviour of Christians. I'd love to talk with you at some point, maybe collaborate in some way in the future?
Absolutely. DM me at lithoscry@gmail.com
YESSS! this video has given me a bit of hope that there are Christians like me out there!!!! As someone who loves metal music & is a christian … I have agreed with every word you said! Well put video! Thank you for sharing.
I think David grew up with a Jewish background. I may be wrong. It could be an influence on this behavior, though. Most metal musicians/ metal heads at the core are like this to some extent. Also, the algorithm is working for you 😆 .
Thank you for watching! You are correct he did grow up Jewish. I go to metal shows often and love the metal community. Thank you again for watching AND commenting!
justice, mercy and faith. Unity - one heart. what is Jesus all about. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in this video. Where are all the Christians. The world cries out for redemption. If we’re not going following our call - then who is?
Thank you 🙏🏼 One Love
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This is such a good and correct take. I am 29, I grew up in church and still go. I just went to a disturbed concert 2 weeks ago, it was fantastic and you can feel the emotions in the room and from David.
Dark can not cast out the dark. Just because someone says something good about God doesn't mean they are right with Him. David needs Jesus just as much as those from Westboro Baptist do. Pray for them and pray for the church to wake up and be the hands and feet of Jesus.❤
Meet people where their at ❤️. I love his version of sound of silence. I’m a lone wolf christian, I don’t attend a church. I study the scripture. Thank you, you are so right.
I am a God fearing, Jesus loving, attend church every Sunday plus involved in other aspects of the church. It's a Southern Baptist church and I'm not sure how anyone else thinks about this subject but personally I love some of their music and also listen to Iron Maiden among others. I had a guy, who also attends the same church tell me that if God convicts you to stop listening to that type of music then you should and has yet to convict me otherwise. I have seen some of the concerts where David has literally stopped the show to engage with someone in need or hurting. He's a bigger "Christian" than some people I know. Keep up what your doing and don't take crap from religious groups protesting. Also don't judge all Baptist by one group, some of us support what you do. One parting thought, Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Whether someone is a Christian or not, Mr Draiman is a pretty intelligent guy. He's calling them out on their hypocrisy most likely. I get it that some people don't like cussing and I appreciate your take on it. My take on it is this. Not many words are banned or advised not to use in the Bible, but even the terrible 7 are not in there. It's not words that are going to hurt you but rather the hate infused in them that will. Speaking out of hatred or anger is really frowned upon. Great video!
he doesn't want you to critize his people killing christian in the middle east and around the world.
David went from abandoning his Jewish faith to observing his Faith again! People should research him! I have great respect for him. He gets a lot of “H” on X daily for standing for Israel! David shows love to people and gives people hope who battle against dark in life!!
This is GOLD! We need to speak my friend. I am 18 minutes in and we are on the same page! We will be going to 3 music festivals this year in Florida, Ohio, and California. Are you close to Sacramento, Daytona Beach, or Mansfield, Ohio?
DM me at lithoscry@gmail.com. Would love to talk.
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I've been a casual fan of Disturbed for years but, have gained way more respect for them after attending their concert a few years ago. People need to stop dictating what and who God can use. Jesus Himself was hated because He didn't fit the religious leaders standards.
Me and my wife saw a show in Knoxville, and they spoke about the mental illness and addiction, made my wife cry.
I am a recovering addict.
I work in prison reentry. There are plenty of faithful in this world, but the Church as an institution is largely missing. I can count the number of people getting out of prison being shunned by local churches. They should be leading the fight, not fighting with the government. So many people suffer from substance abuse, mental health problems, and general lack of care. If the Church was leading this fight, there wouldn't be many problems left in this world.
You are correct and that is the main point of the video!
@@Lithoscry to be completely up front I'm a non-theist but I respect the messages of Jesus. I study Buddhism and see a lot of parallels. I don't know the answer to everything or anything but I know that nothing will happen if I don't do something. If everybody did something the world would be a much better place. Not to mention, it feels great and I meet a lot of remarkable people! :)
I attended my 1st Disturbed concert in Sydney in March this year. Waited long time
To this day, despite ready to deliver twins with my wife for nearly 1 yr, I still struggle with the demons of depression and suicide. What David of Disturbed is doing is amazing.but when it comes to this church crap, many of us in the LGBTQ+ community still face biasness, and it is wrong. Thank y'all for letting me rant, and please be kind to one another
When the dark tunnels seem to never end, remember the saying "This too shall pass", and know that there is always light at the end of the tunnel.
Great video and message... There's more to our faith than standing on the sidelines and pointing fingers. The Light shines best in the darkness.
Cuss words are a simple expression of frustration… nothing more nothing less
Thank you! Absolutely!!
Be bold like John in the wilderness. Music isn’t the problem. It’s the hypocrites. We need ministry like this. Thank you. David is speaking a message of truth. We need to stop being woke and WAKE UP. People are dying every single day without knowing how to be set free. Music is more powerful than any sermon could ever be. That’s my feeling, anyway.
Lyrics of their song "The Night" asks "asr you gonna deny the Savior, in front of your eyes"...
Very thought provoking that they're saying those kinds of lines. I became a fan 20+ years ago, been a Believer in Christ for 30+ years and a metal fan for 40+. Disturbed's songs always have me thinking about my faith and how I need to be separated from the world
I have been to many Disturbed concerts. I have always felt David "preaches" while on stage. It's very touching and I have seen people in the crowd in tears. A lady next to me was crying and I hugged her in support. All of their concerts have been wonderful experiences for me.
i once went to a Baptist church on a regular without ever missing a service until i got sick one weekend and had to work out of town the next weekend so the church sent two people to come check on me and i just so happened to be drinking a beer while grilling when they showed up and im a firm believer in come as you are.. so i invited them to eat and they refused.. however at the following service i was asked to come into an office and told i could no longer be a member of the church as im living in sin.. i looked at the guy and said but dont we all sin?? as i walked out i told him respectfully i dont wanna come back to this church!!!
Jesus made water into wine but it’s wrong to enjoy a beer while you cook your food? Lol I was just thinking the other day that if Jesus came again, modern Christianity would reject him just like the Pharisees.
Jesus literally turned water into wine and commanded us to drink wine that becomes His blood in Communion.
This is why I no longer practice my raised born again Christian religion. While the people at my parents church walk the walk Christian’s are the most judgmental people on the planet. As if gods going to strike you down for having a beer. But if you were having a glass of wine I’m sure that would’ve been fine.
Honestly, as someone who's been studying scripture to understand it, that guy screwed up by expelling you from the church immediately. You're better off being at another church than there
There are a lot of comments on this wonderful and insightful video, so if this is a repeat, I apologize. I was at that show, and around the time of this talk he gave "his people" (honestly, he used that phrase), they did their song "Reason To Fight." There is a line in that song that is so powerful: When you're aching for the fire and begging for your sin. When there's nothing left inside, there's still a reason to fight. As a believer, I have ached from that fire and begged for the sin of my flesh and I turn to my Heavenly Father to fight my battle for me. If these lyrics, his words, can spark interest in someone to start looking, reading researching, asking questions, then isn't that a good thing? Isn't he leading a heart to God?
At least David helped people to go on one more day, when they might have killed themselves otherwise. And that "one more day" might all that's needed to put someone else in their way to show them the real light. Prayers that David finds the real light himself.
Disturbed and Shinedown have brought me through more dark days than any street corner Christian.
Shinedown is my go to always
Right on point, we are called to be witnesses not Judges...........Testimony, is truly what Jesus did for you...
Brother you're so right, David has a Christian background and he cares about total strangers, we don't even see that kind of love in the church too often and I have always wanted to go to a disturbed concert and show people that we do love them and we want to see them set free from the darkness as Christ has set us free
I saw them live in July, best concert I have been to, his speech before they sang a reason to fight is something that I will never forget
He is actually Jewish. I saw a full interview and he talks about growing up Jewish.
@@vavjak oh my mistake
@@jarrettchristensen_music I agree. I saw them around the same time and it was an experience unlike most shallow concerts I've attended.
In the last 6-7 months, ive been spearheading an unconventional ministry at my church called “the bridge.” Essentially I host monthly or 2 times a month local shows from musicians in the tri-state area. A lot of bands that seem to want to play are hardcore and metal bands, and tho a lot of the artist are almost the furthest thing from Christian as far as context, everyone is so nice and respectful and charitable and understanding of playing shows like this in a still active church. The only thing we have asked of them is to not intentionally slander the faith or the church, and to not have alcohol, and everything else is fair game.
The goal of it is to just open dialogues with both concert attendees and band members. The biggest question I get is always “how the hell did you get a space like this to host shows?” To which I explain that I’ve been going to said church my entire life and when I proposed to the governing board my idea they understood where I was coming from and gave me the liberty to go forth and do it. I’ve been a concert junkie most of my life, been playing drums in various bands for the latter part of 20 years, and just meeting people and hearing their stories and hearing how church has pushed away people who are seeking through their actions has broken my heart. Like it or not, Christians have a habit of ruining Jesus for people. So I’m trying my best to “bridge the gap” and show folks who are outside of the church or have been wounded by the church that we aren’t as judgmental, or, threatening or imposing as people who misrepresented Christ portrayed us to be.
It’s slow, but I’m seeing fruit from it. People who come to the shows tell me how safe and welcomed they feel and how much it stands in stark contrast to the typical bar show. And some even have told me that “this is the first time in a long time I’ve actually felt welcome in a church.”
We often forget that the whole gospel is about God meeting us where we are at, and that’s how the church should be treating the world, we should meet them where they are at and walk along side them as they enter the doors of a church either for the first time, or the first time in a long time.
If anyone is interested in following my endeavors, I’ve got an insta for it @thebridgebg
I’m not a practicing Christian anymore but I can tell you this will reach people. Sometimes people don’t even know they want to goto church until they are exposed to one. However most never are. You might be surprised by the outcome of your endeavors.
@@scray00 hey my friend, this means a lot, thank you. I’m already wildly surprised and humbled by some of the testimonies and stories people are offering up to me as they start to explore what this whole thing is about, and it’s been such a joy to be that conduit for people. I am but a mirror reflecting light.
Maybe you could pray for David?
I have always been a huge Disturbed fan. I've been blessed to see them live 3 times. I am happy to see you here. This is why I subscribed. I am a new follower of Jesus. I want to pick up my cross and follow in his steps. And you are right when you go in with a discerning heart, God leads us where we need to go. Thank you and God bless 🙏
Rock on! Thank you for subscribing!
I absolutely felt God on David Dramin in the sounds of silence video...as the music had died, and the dream that the words of the prophets were written on the subway walls😮
Where exactly are Bibles today?
I heard an interview that revealed his heritage...and there it is. GOD used him to MOVE people. It Moved me THIS WEEK and im sharing it where religous can hear
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This article is clickbait. He didn't bring a "wake-up call to Christians", he was speaking out against Westboro Baptist, who does *not* represent the majority of Christians, even ones who agree with them about sexual issues. I am a very conservative Christian and I love Disturbed. They're one of my favorite modern rock/metal bands.
I have so much respect for David Draiman as a person, a dedicated vocalist, and as a parent and friend. I hope I’ll get to see Disturbed in concert one day. ❤️ I pray for David’s growth in Christ, to stay filled with the Holy Spirit, and increased boldness to share the Lord’s love and light. ❤
Jesus talked about the intention behind language. NOT specific words.
When i was from the world, i lovrd disturbed, i related to the music. But i have always been spiritually sensitive. After i had opened doors, i would use his music to enpower and actually envoke unclean demonic spirits.
They are attracted to his music. I truly believe God can use him. He uses me and i was in witchcraft practices as well as deep addiction and God uses me because i serve Him.
Only Him.
I am a personal testimony of how powerful Deliverance is. Through and only through Jesus Christ...
Anything else, no matter how close is a DECEPTION...
I wasnt called to go to church to set people free, and probably neither was he. I was called to go to the darkest of dark places and help bring those living in darkness back to the light. But beware. The enemy will disguise himself as an angel of light, and deceive many.
Each and every one of us will have to account for the work that we've done while we were alive on this Earth period. And the false teachers who said they were the light that were actually darkness, which is what it talks about in the end of Matthew, it will call the light dark in the dark light how dark is that darkness really.
I believe that he can truly lead several generations to the light, if he becomes a true follower of Christ.
And I do believe in these last days, God will definitely use him.
Truth be told, he's living in deception and leading others to deception if he is pointing that there's any other way to the light and to Heaven that is not through Jesus Christ. And he must account for that, or repent I hope and pray he finds the truth.
Even if Dave's conversion is a week before his death, he's got so many followers, one testimony of such a conversion can change the destination of a lot of Souls.
So that's what I'm going to be praying for tonight...
Please keep praying.
I love the band Disturbed. I've been a Christian since I was a teenager and I've always listened to hard rock and heavy metal. God has told me not to listen to certain bands. He hasn't told me not to listen to Disturbed.
We are not supposed to JUDGE, ONLY OUR CREATOR JUDGES. I have seen too many churches totally put down someone who may be going the wrong path. You are supposed to love that person, and with a caring HEART, bring the Creator to them. AS A CHRISTIAN, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ACT BETTER THAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT FOUND OUR CREATOR.
YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO LOVE THEM.
John 8:12
Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
Ephesians 5:14
For anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says, “Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”
I've heard David talk in many interviews and he is very elegant and he obviously has a heart to help people who are hurtimg because he's been where they are so he understands the need for offering a helping hand. I dont really listen to much of their music because it really isnt my style anymore as I grew up in the 80s with metal bands and just kinda grew out of it. But that being said, I can appriciate that he is trying to use thier music to both entertain and to reach people where they are which is a beautiful thing. I hope and pray that his ministry will continue to be a blessing to him and his band as well as to those who hear their music because sometimes its the music we least expect that reaches those who are hurting the most.
I am 60 years old and LOVE Disturbed I think they are a great group and music if you listen to the words. I have yet to hear ANY glory to the satan scene or killing police or taking advantage of women. I think David is probably a Christian and is actually a great person.
nope, he's a communists jew. Decieving you.
I am a Christian who cusses more than his fair share. Bono from U2 also cusses a lot, but is a committed Christian. We all struggle with our sins, vices and weak points. The point is to grow with time, and part of the growth is to wrestle with these issues. Sometimes we have to meet folks where they are, whether you cuss to make a point, other times refraining from it to abide by some social conventions with others. God is patient in our growth.
Metal isnt the evil..its the heart of man that is evil. Ive loved metal since i was 13 and been a christian since before that. Some bands have a good message, helping ppl in addiction & depression. God frees us in whatever way He wills
Well said my brother! It's so sad that the state of the church is currently so shameful 😢. Was it not the Messiah who said "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"? Jesus Christ came for the sinner not the saved!!!
I've chated with David about Christ Jesus about 10 years ago...
May the seeds you planted blossom into a harvest! Thank you for your faithfulness.
Amen. Blessed are the peacemakers.
John 12:46
I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness.
I saw Disturbed a few years back. It was absolutely the most positive and uplifting rock show I’ve ever seen. David truly loves people. And the show rocked.