The mother to son breeding is a sex link breeding. You got the right idea but might just mix the sex of the babis up. The dun baby will be the hen and the cream/yellow baby will be the cock. The baby "girl" will get her dad's color which is blue and the baby "boy" will get colors from his mom and dad and since ash red > blue it'll be ash red carrying blue.
You are not quite right. The hen you are calling cream is recessive yellow. She carries two autosomal chromosomes for recessive red and she has dilute on her only sex chromosome. I think @Adamarcher can tell you more. Good luck!
Love what you said. I’m J.B. I did just what you did four years when we couldn’t fly. I wish I could send you some pictures of my birds. The ones I breed roll down after 8 weeks of flying. How can I stop that?
Hey Sam Smitty, I recently came across your RUclips channel. I was trying to buy a pair of all white rollers. I live in Louisiana. Would you be interested in selling a pair? How much it cost me?
Sir I have a question.. I seen some beautiful white tail pigeon😍,.. my question is do u know how to get a red pigeon with white tail?? from breeding.. and my 2nd question was do you have any white tail pigeon in your loft?? If u have can you show it to us.. love see different pigeon colour 😍 ❤
Hello from Australia, well explained mate, was so easy to follow ... my question though is how were these colors introduced into birmingham rollers in the first place? were rollers crossbred to other varieties that had these genes? Thanks.
@@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763 yeah in sha Allah.. come to sri lanka 🇱🇰 we always welcome tourist 👍👍... and u can find lots of pigeon lover specially in colombo city 😁
Great videos, just a point of correction because dilute is a sex linked recessive gene, dilute yellow hens only have one Z chromosome for a sex linked colour. In other words they can only be and show dilute yellow but will pass it onto their sons. A recessive red cock can however show recessive red but can also carry dilute " yellow" gene and pass onto his daughters. Yellows & creams can also be produced by dilute gene being introduced via the ash red route. Thus dilute of recessive red being recessive yellow and yellow/creams dilute of ash red series. Cream bar can only be produced via the ash red series as recessive red/yellow is epistatic to the pattern series, meaning it will cover over check and bar patterns that are underneath. Great videos keep them coming
@@quentinlee4005 if you make recessive yellows from recessive reds using the dilute gene, the recessive gene is epistatic to the pattern gene meaning it will mask over the bars or checks. If you make yellows or creams from ash red birds using the dilute gene, bars will show through if they carry the gene for the bar pattern. Ash red birds are completely different birds genetically from recessive red birds. So yes you can get cream bars but you must breed dilute onto ash red birds and not recessive red birds
The mother to son breeding is a sex link breeding. You got the right idea but might just mix the sex of the babis up. The dun baby will be the hen and the cream/yellow baby will be the cock. The baby "girl" will get her dad's color which is blue and the baby "boy" will get colors from his mom and dad and since ash red > blue it'll be ash red carrying blue.
Cream is referring to a yellow barred just like saying red bar yellow but are still yellow
when are u going to make a update video no this video
What did you say Richard Abracadabra?
Where you at you my idle
You're right it's not a cream it's a yellow with white flights
I had two blue checks that thru out reds ,yellows ,dun checks,red checks and even blacks how is that,Bay Bay have some of that family
Awesome video. Is Isabel another word for Yellow?? Or a completely different color??
Update
Want a video on dun
That's pretty freaking dope! Lol
Genetics are fun!
Hey Smitty do you think for everyone to be on top they will have to bring in English words????
You are not quite right. The hen you are calling cream is recessive yellow. She carries two autosomal chromosomes for recessive red and she has dilute on her only sex chromosome. I think @Adamarcher can tell you more. Good luck!
A non dilute hen cannot be split for dilute. For a hen to carry dilute she must be dilute.
Still waiting for the update on those yellow babies from the son/mother lol
Can you tell where do i get the 22% pigeon pellet it seems like my area have only 19 and 17 percents
Hi sam from D.K.s lofts roller Pigeons Perth WA grate vid/ thanks
Color of cocktail is its only color doesn't have dilute
I’m planning to create these colours, thank you so much I’m learning
The pigeon book cream is yellow bar same as your yellow self
So informative, thank you dear
Keep the great stuff coming, and be sure not to dilute it . . . ;)
Thanks for the info
Great bodies on those offspring off that pair 👍 👌
How do you create white out of Yellowstone
What happened to the update on the birds
You need to make more videos bro!!
You got some good birds bro
Very beautiful!
Love your vids
Wow u r amazing dude!
Love what you said. I’m J.B. I did just what you did four years when we couldn’t fly. I wish I could send you some pictures of my birds. The ones I breed roll down after 8 weeks of flying. How can I stop that?
Hey Sam Smitty, I recently came across your RUclips channel. I was trying to buy a pair of all white rollers. I live in Louisiana. Would you be interested in selling a pair? How much it cost me?
Hello sam I'm from south Africa how much do u sell pegions for and how much is the shipment I want 4birds from u .... thanks
Can you give an good explanation about opals different colour opal (milky ,lavender, checker ,spread ,opalusion
If y'all want to learn about pigeons this is the channel
Imma only 12 years and I learn alot of pigeons cuz of this channel
Sir I have a question.. I seen some beautiful white tail pigeon😍,.. my question is do u know how to get a red pigeon with white tail?? from breeding.. and my 2nd question was do you have any white tail pigeon in your loft?? If u have can you show it to us.. love see different pigeon colour 😍 ❤
Hello from Australia, well explained mate, was so easy to follow ... my question though is how were these colors introduced into birmingham rollers in the first place? were rollers crossbred to other varieties that had these genes? Thanks.
Thank you for the education on how to make a dilute you never stop amazing me keep up the excellent work Smitty and I'll keep watching 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Very nice video. I like when people support a theory by evidence. Also, the term you are looking for is Sex Link.
nice pigeons keep up the good work my favorite channel keep up the good work
Hi sir how to feed in beginning stage chicks bicose I feed normal food but is not digestion what's the problem sir
Hey it’s me Luis and the white bar and cream bar is also doing good
Smitty you have available...a pair of stock birds for sale
Do you have any bird for sale ?
You can email me
theRollerpigeonevolution@gmail.com
Make sure to leave a phone number and a time to call you
Do you have any video for somebody that wants to begin having some pigeon
Can you suggest any good breeding and pigeon care books that are not overly expensive
hello i want to know if i can mate the pigeon father with the daughter .. thanks
Great video, thanks for sharing 👍🏾🐦
Great video as always Smitty. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Smitty any updates on offsrings cant wait to see them
Thanks Sam good input Keep up the good work..
How can I breed stencil pigeons?
Hi Smitty thank you once again good work
Great stuff great content keep it coming sam...
Hello I want to ask if dark grizzle are rare color?
Thanks in advance
No it’s actually quite common
What a beautiful birds 😍
Love the video guys keep them coming
Video on how someone can produce blacks without having any blacks
You need the gene called "spread". I've made a video on it recently.
Love the channel ,great info...
Thank you for the update sir
Thank you for your information
Can i buy birds from you?
Nice job Smitty
great one well explained 👏
The young ones look nice man good job
Great info
Thanks
Smitty and Danny!
Amazing videos
Great presentation
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From Sri Lanka 🇱🇰 ♥ , i love pigeon , and learning lot of new things from you.. #respect ✌ ,
Ahmed Sir Lanka is one of the places i have always wanted to visit beautiful place and people hope I can visit one day soon ❤️
@@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763 yeah in sha Allah.. come to sri lanka 🇱🇰 we always welcome tourist 👍👍... and u can find lots of pigeon lover specially in colombo city 😁
Would a cream bar work for these as well or that a different thing and would they be able to produce the same outcome as yours?
Yes it would work the same no difference
Great videos, just a point of correction because dilute is a sex linked recessive gene, dilute yellow hens only have one Z chromosome for a sex linked colour. In other words they can only be and show dilute yellow but will pass it onto their sons. A recessive red cock can however show recessive red but can also carry dilute " yellow" gene and pass onto his daughters. Yellows & creams can also be produced by dilute gene being introduced via the ash red route. Thus dilute of recessive red being recessive yellow and yellow/creams dilute of ash red series. Cream bar can only be produced via the ash red series as recessive red/yellow is epistatic to the pattern series, meaning it will cover over check and bar patterns that are underneath. Great videos keep them coming
@@petpot1962 what do u underneath like under the feathers? Meaning that it will not show any dilute on the birds?
@@quentinlee4005 if you make recessive yellows from recessive reds using the dilute gene, the recessive gene is epistatic to the pattern gene meaning it will mask over the bars or checks. If you make yellows or creams from ash red birds using the dilute gene, bars will show through if they carry the gene for the bar pattern. Ash red birds are completely different birds genetically from recessive red birds. So yes you can get cream bars but you must breed dilute onto ash red birds and not recessive red birds