How Good Is The Weeknd Really?
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2022
- #TheWeeknd is back with some new music, this week I'm taking a look at #Sacrifice which seemed to be popular on RUclips recently. He says he is influenced by Michael Jackson which is of course fine and a great influence to have however...how close is this new song to sounding like another VERY popular Michael Jackson song? Am I just hearing things? Am I being too analytical? Apart from that I have a lot of other positive things to say about The Weeknd, so have a watch of the video first before commenting!
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Hello! What do you think? Am I hearing things?!
He's out generation of MJ. Bringing MJs vibee into the 20's
You are. But teasingly, Im guessing its the same impression I received when I first heard your Am arpeggio being similar to Stairway. Its all been done before….✌🏻
Nope
muchas influencias ochenteras en todo el disco pero no veo plagio alguno a MJ. Eso sí, el disco entero está impresionante
Quite some similarities, and that does make it somewhat boring to me. I do like Gasoline a lot.
It’d be cool if unsigned bands could send you clips, give them a 30second listen and give your personal opinion
I second that idea!
That would be cool.
SUBREDDIT
Very good idea!
Amazing idea
Your videos always put a smile on my face Justin, and it's a huge plus learning so much when you break songs down- really inspiring. Thank you 🤘
I’m really enjoying your videos Justin. It cracks me up because I’m the same way with my kids. They listen to something new and I have to tell them that it’s been done before by artist from my youth. Nothing is new but it’s great to see good music influencing new music.
Basically it’s all the pixies, sound garden or written by Neil Diamond
Everything is influenced by something. Everything has been done before. That's not bad. It's only bad when it's a carbon copy, which I don't think this song is. It's just inspired and that's fine... I say that and I don't even like the Weekend much.
Could listen to you talk music all day! Love your channel Justin! 🤘🏻
This is the only you tube channel I watch religiously, I love Justin’s way of critiquing, he always backs himself up with his musical knowledge and it’s so interesting getting his perspective on new music. He is always so positive and mindful of the artist, always giving out the best vibes! The darkness rock 🤘🏼
I love how thorough you go with your analysis 👏
The weekend give me 80's electronic vibes with all of their songs.
Side note, love your hat/ berret
You’re the uncle i never had… love ya for connecting and being yourself out here. Stay up unc!
The moment I listened to Sacrifice I noticed the similarities (it's also pretty close to the Vincent Price part). But I wouldn't count it as ripping off, he's giving it it's own take and it's not like MJ invented that chord progression.
@ghost mall One of my favorite chords progression by the way. So simple but yet so efficacious
I feel like I'm in the room with you. Oh the conversations we would have.
Love your work as always.
I love your songwriting insight!!!!!
Canada is secretly responsible for a great many musicians that have an unusually large and devoted fan base.
The weeknd has many song's with heavy influence of 80's songs. I love the weeknd because no matter he's one of the closest artist to take me back to the 80's dance hits. He was working with prince but the single was never completed before his untimely death. The weeknd has said on many occasions he gets influence from Michael Jackson, Prince and Bowie.
My girl is a huge Weeknd fan as a result, I have listened to him a lot. We go to a lot of shows, I take her to shows like Sammy Hagar, Paul McCartney, and in October, Roger Waters. She has taken me to shows like Silk Sonic, Friends and Lovers show, and also The Weeknd. I think he’s a true artist and I love the concepts he puts into his work. Not a typical “pop” artists in my opinion. Is it my favorite cup of tea? No, but I can appreciate what he’s attempting. And, as per your video, he wears his influences on his sleeve, so to speak. As always, great commentary Mr. Hawkins. As someone who attempts the guitar, I find you an interesting and inspirational voice and one I respek haha. Cheers.
Rod temperton! All those massive American hits of the 80s written by a dude from grimsby. You should do a video on him Justin.
I'm 53 never heard of him, interesting. I will have to do my googles. I always thought it was Quincey Jones and Mj that wrote, arranged and produced this masterful album with such banger tracks as the kids say now.
I heard a very good interview with him, he wrote the talking middle part by Vincent price in a taxi on the way to the studio I think he had about 20 mins to write it. Best taxi drive ever.
yeah absolute hero of a songwriter and arranger - legend!
@@Alpha_7227 He also wrote “Rock with You” and “Off the Wall” (the song). Absolute legend.
@@SEL_69 Apparently also Give me the night for George Benson and Stomp for The Brothers Johnson - after googling him. Interesting those massive hits, never heard of him. Kind of like the bass player in the backing band of the beach boys writing all their fantastic songs.
hi Justin. I saw an advert for music by Herbie Hancock. skipped it to get to you. You are a legend and I love you. Skill doesn't matter to me, musically. jazz, etc. its about soul, which honestly I think you are about. keep doing your thing. big influence. I love the darkness and I love your sense of humour.
It's got that INXS Need You Tonight ostinato vibe.
Another note, however minor, is the fact that, like Thriller, "Sacrifice" has that guitar ostinato like the Thriller bassline that loops. They don't necessarily sound similar but they have the same effect in the song
I got hooked on your videos. I had tickets to the Darkness in 2020 and it got canceled. Just got my ticket for the show this year. See you in Houston.
Justin I never really liked The Darkness but I like you and I love this channel , it's my new favourite
your intro was (finally) the perfect volume. thanks
Excellent review.🎸🍷🍾👍
He has a radio station on Apple Music called Momento Morí where he gives us a taste of all the songs he’s sample/used for inspiration on lots of his albums. It’s cool to hear the original songs he likes and unreleased songs he made and never used.
This does sound very similar to thriller. I hadn't heard this track of his yet but I have thought similar things about his others songs sounding very similar to other older tracks. We are in that weird stage where the disco pop 70s/80s sounding songs are all what's hitting the top of the charts. What's next? The grunge era coming back round 🤷 as always love the videos man👊
Music industry always seems to be recycling two-three decades prior. What is weird though is a did think we were in for a Britpop or Grunge revival, but judging on this new wave of bands like Black Country New Road or Black Midi they seem to mining Mr Bungle and Primus
You guys need to tour the US seriously. Been a fan since 03 watching you guys on mtv. Get your asses over here!
Dude. They are touring the US in March and April of this year. 30+ dates, so wherever in the US you are they are likely playing nearby.
I find out so much listening to Justin. Helps me listen to music in a more appreciative way. And makes the analysis so much more accessible than Mr. Beato's videos which are muso'd to the max, and overall, kinda confusing
The groove itself sounds more like the break in "Wanna be starting something" by Michael Jackson to me.🤷🏼♂️
I definitely think it has that Thriller vibe to it. Regarding your comments on whether he would be as good back in the day as today - I suppose he's working with the tools he has available to him today. If this was 40 years ago, he would be just as creative (perhaps a completely different sound due to different influences) but would use what was available back then. Would he have stood out when going against MJ, Prince, etc? Who knows!
Justin my brother,
I would implore you to take a deep dive into the Weeknd's Trilogy, it's his first 3 EPs combined and it's in a class of its own in my humble opinion. It's pretty slept on, and it has so many good tunes, he samples some beach house songs and old post punk songs, very good stuff and his voice has way more soul in it then all his new stuff.
I agree, his Ep’s were very much his own style and now that he’s on a huge label they shifted him to more generic Pop for the masses because this is nothing like House of balloons or Same old Song! I still look forward to his music but it’s really different from his earlier stuff.
@@FrankyHawkins5 I know it's so different but guess they didn't push him into it and it was his decision to become a giant pop star.
I still rock the whole trilogy and it has a special place in my heart.
Loving the channel Justin. May we request certain songs for review as well?
I think you're being a bit too harsh ... the quietness of his voice is exactly what makes him appealing. There's a real sweetness to it. I can agree on the "inspiration" part, but having said that ... I don't know that the intention is trying to be Rod Temperton anymore than The Darkness is trying to be Queen. And I don't mean that in a churlish way! I think he brings something to pop that makes funk and r&b (the old school) a little more accessible. Is it groundbreaking? No. Not much is these days, because everything is an homage to something else ... but it IS enjoyable. My 2c.
exactly
🙂👍 love your channel
OMG... I almost dropped my drink when you sang Michael Jackson! I had to go back and hear it 3 more times! Holy $H!T!!!
Another great one. Would The Darkness be opposed to doing a dance-type record ala Let's Dance or Hot Space? Or, perhaps you could do a solo album?
Agree totally. Also, is last big hit sounded a lot like Talk Talk. Good show Sir 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏴
Justin, Honestly, the downward cascade you were playing @7:30 made me think not only of Thriller, but also of Deep Purple's "Child In Time" about 1/3 of the way through just before Blackmore's solo. Off topic, but man, Ian Gillan had a great voice. P.S. I may have the location in the song incorrect.
Such a fan of yours, Justin.
Great intro, beautiful softer
I kind of disagree. In an age where all the pop singers over sing, going for the ‘diva’ sound, I find the gentle singing of the weekend to be refreshing.
I don’t think everything has to be rock all the time. I also don’t think all singers have to ‘belt it out’
I like intimate vocals.
Some women in pop over-sing right now in diva ish belty ways, but the men all under-sing.
@@GenevianFilms fair point. Personal preference I suppose. I wouldn’t call this under singing personally.
For me the problem isn’t so much loud vs quiet, hard vs soft.
For me there is just a lack of emotion and / or expression in most contemporary singers.
It’s like they try to iron out all the quirks to the point where everything just sounds flat.
Elliot smith used to sing softly, but there was so much emotion in his voice.
Finally someone with a similar opinion. I personally prefer to hear dynamics in a singing voice. All of this belting sounds like screaming to me. It’s great when it is used only when it is needed. Emotion is paramount, and you can do that without yelling every word in a song. I like to hear textures, soul and feelings. You can whisper a word and it can mean more than a thousand words belted. It isn’t to say that all belting is emotionless - certainly not. I just think it is overused and overrated. It doesn’t matter what the genre is - the same principle applies.
And then you have Billie Eilish and her whispering style. Just as annoying.
@@ransbarger interesting. I don’t find that annoying at all! I find it a welcome break from the norm.
I was getting so sick of the X factor ‘pop diva’ style singing. It’s so forced.
Then Billie came along with no auto tune, not a ton of editing on her voice and some intimate singing! Love it.
Ah Justin - the Rick James video was utterly brilliant. Your infectious enthusing about Mr James' output felt like an inspirational love pean. Its impossible to listen to Rick James with out bursting out in a stoopid grin....his lust for..... well lots of stuff is intoxicating (ahem) - if I can be bold for a mo - there's a comparison to be made with your good self in that respect. Both heart on the sleeve music apostles. Though it seems your more tempered and wise on the other side of the storm than our man Rick. Keep on keeping on bud.
Its the same chord sequence thats used in Your Song by Elton John. "Im not one of those who can, easily hide" which is 12 years older than Thriller again so...
Eleanor Rigby by the Beatles too so many songs bro
You sir, are excellent. Keep it up :)
I love Justins sense of humor
I'm not that familiar with The Weeknd to be honest, but I do love Blinding Lights (great video as well) and Save your Tears. My 4 year old grandson, Teddy, introduced these tracks to me, he loves them 😂
You're right. You can 'absolutely' hear the funky beat from Thriller on this track. Side note, I think The Weeknd was homeless too wasn't he? Living on the streets, until he found fame? I'm sure someone told me that once 🤔
Another great analysis Justin. I also have to say, I love your hat...really suits you. I loved your black jacket on your last podcast too ❤️
Found this channel recently and it rules! Both hilarious and interest content. Great humour and wit on this JH bloke! Not mentioning the obvious musical talent and also musical knowledge. Great delivery and timing too. Not sure if i'm alone in this but that intro/outro though... is got to be the most irritating thing I've seen/heard in years. But hey, now I just jump the 1st and last secs - the solution to still enjoy the videos without that very cringe bit (sorry). Cheers!
I first listened to Michael Jackson Thriller on a Sony Walkman whilst travelling on a School Bus - I’ll never forget that Bus Trip - because it ‘Blew My 1980’s mind.’🤓
Cool video.
SERIOUSLY!!! Who else wants to see/hear Justin do a MJ cover?? (With a Dad rock vibe obviously)
When you played the chorus chords my mind immediately started singing While My Guitar Gently Weeps over Jimmy Page playing the outro of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You.
Always a brilliant insight from a brilliant musician
A suggestion but would you consider sometimes reviewing bands on your channel? I think it would promote the underground scene and also your excellent knowledge of music theory and constructive and fair criticism (as opposed to roasting which most RUclipsrs do) would be welcome.
From the moment I heard The Weekend I immediately thought of MJ's influence.
I wish you would do an electric guitar episode. Show off some lead stuff. I really like your solo guitar playing.....it's underrated. I started playing guitar in 8th grade the year Randy Rhoads came out on Blizzard of Ozz. I listen to all types of music but always go back to it because it was so big for me at that time. I like that Richie Faulkner dude from Priest for a Rhoads influenced dude.
also reminded me a little bit of of the intro to "Wanna be starting something". Rod Temperton was born in Cleethorpes of all places. Strange world.
I really enjoyed this video! Your innate music ability is amazing.
Cool. Greetings from Deutschland!
Love the hat.
I think we're all ready for a Thriller cover by the Darkness now.
The skull that looks right deep into your soul returns in full form!
Cheers Justin
Like the new darkness album (its a love thang) I'd swear is a prince song? Another is very ACDC but its still original and cool. Speed of the night time- has a guitar tone I've heard before but again I cant put my finger on what it is -The fade out is awesome and I find myself counter acting with the volume and then destroying my ears when the next song kicks in. Then there's a Van Halen type lick -This stuff keeps me awake a night but I guess good music reminds me of other good music.
What Prince song do you hear in "It's a Love Thing?"
Don't know if you are hearing things, but yesterday evening I was watching some trailers and videos of Thriller, the musical in London, that I attended a few years ago (and I also recommend) and then I started my Monday dancing on The Weeknd, and later this afternoon you put them together. And this is only a little trace of what I mean when I say there's Synthesis here and in the Darkness world. It's a kind of magic.
Would love to here you go through a Prince or Bowie song, even someone more recent like Nine Inch Nails where the composition is really focused
I listen to and play 95% rock music but grew up around rave music also and when I heard his song blinding lights It grabbed a part of me I forgot was there. It is a good song. Like a great driving song or whatever.
He sometimes sounds like MJ, especially on some of his early stuff. Just like I sound exactly like the J Hawk when singing in my car to work. Amazing! 🤪
Justin are you going to review the new ghost tune 🤘
He's "borrowed" things from other artists before. He used Portishead's drum loop from Machine Gun after being told by the composer he didn't have permission.
Blinded by lights is basically Take on me by A-ha but rejigged
Any chance to get a video on Rod Temperton?
Intro is awesome now 🤣
Smashed it
True... it's damn close.. I could say the same about the motorheart riff being influenced by Queens stone cold crazy?
That might be my favorite Justin Hawkin Jingle rendition yet.
There's a surprise for you this evening in tonight's video...
The syncopation has a touch of "Never too Much" by Luther as well. Might account for the tremulous vocal style at the start too.
@Justin, Tim Peirce gave you a shout out in his Meatloaf tribute video.
There's a breakdown on RUclips of MJ'S 'Smooth Criminal'. We they played the isolated vocal, it was like: WOW
Argh, you're becoming a source for finding good music. First The Struts now The Weeknd. Yeah, this sounds very Thriller. But...
"Save Your Tears" - where the hell did that come from!?! That song is a pure work of genius.
The weeknd is amazing. check out his 'trilogy'
Katz - Visions of You sounds quite a bit like “Save Your Tears”... not sure if The Weeknd was inspired by that old pop tune
Spot on. Or perhaps we're just old, bitter men. I applaud your attempts to keep up with this new-ish stuff. It totally passes me by.
Off topic I know, but recently I find myself spontaneously singing your intro/ theme song. And failing miserably on the last note unfortunately.
It reminded me of While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
Having now watched the video in it's entirety, yes; total lift of Thriller. True perfection can only be imitated - never surpassed. 🖤
Hey remember that good old europe awaits The Darkness tour once you come bache from your hello america tour 😁😁
Hi Justin 👍 I love your vids. I absolutely appreciate your content. Keep it up 👍 But, I hate to say it, please find either a new jingle, or at least snazz it up a bit. You’re better than that. A little more melody, perhaps! I’m a fan of your music, but your intro is a bit squeamish to your fans! Anyhoo, other than that, keep going fella, you’re killing it. And I, for one, am loving it 👍
We fans LOVE the intro...leave it as is brotha!!!!
Hearing this immediately as well. Influences suck when they're ripped off so blatantly.
intro sounded nice
Is 2 semi tones the same as 1 key.
When Hawkins plays the chorus on the acoustic it sounds like 'While my Guitar Gently Weeps".
Intro was good!
Would love to know what you think of Jack White, he's putting out some new stuff and im a big fan of both his stuff and yours!
Master Hawkins! You simply must review Australian garage rock band The Chats! It will be a barrel of laughs.
I was thinking this earlier.
Good call, mate. Philip Bailey hit the high notes for EWF live with so much power and consistency. Hard to match that! Same deal with MJ.
As an American living on the West Coast, JHRA is nearly the totality of my exposure to British culture (Graeme and Mike Pullen, not withstanding). I dream that if I ever visit England, Mr. Hawkins is found to be the standard bearer for the nation as a whole.
I can’t get British telly. Are you actually *in* Dancing On Ice?
Is this Justin Hawkins from Justin Hawkins Rides Again? Because I'm not sure.
Do NEEDTOBREATHE please! Would love to hear your opinion on the biggest band you never heard of
I recommend you listen to The Weeknd's DD (cover of Dirty Diana). Should get rid of any doubts around the dynamics of his voice :)
I like "save your tears" with Arian Grande
The vocals suit the song cause it’s kind of a cruisy groove, like almost driving in your car and chilling
I don't really agree on this one, Justin. That chord sequence is not synonymous to MJ, nor it can really be claimed as his. Of course the similarities are clear both in sound and overall vibe and I agree on the soft voice comments, but chords sequences always find ways to repeat themselves and, since that particular one is not an essential part in neither of the two compared songs, I think your judgement is a bit too harsh on this one!
Cheers legend
I liked the tender intro...
I play guitar but I don't have an ear for figuring out songs and notes as quickly as people like Justin do and it sucks. I've tried to learn that skill for 30+ years.