I have cable discs on my gravel bike; such an easy setup, and I'm satisfied with the braking performance. So I would consider getting the rim brake version.
14 speed groupset without 14 speed cassettes. By this logic, my friction shifters are a CVT. 😂 Thanks for sharing with us anyway, keep up the good work.
Eyup, Joe. C'mon, we all know it's only a matter of time 🤣. All a bit pointless though, in my personal opinion. What was that famous quote from Spinal Tap?.... "But this one goes to 11" 😉
Ensuring future compatibility is a refreshing difference from the major brands that can't even seem to make their OWN 11spd stuff work with their new 12spd stuff.😂
Over at seraphbikes they claim to be shipping 2x14 EDS TX complete bikes. Featuring a "colourful" 10-36 cassette and a just as colourful "SUMC-14S" chain both of which I can't find elsewhere in the wild.
Wow this is the first I’ve heard of this group set certainly ahead of the game from the other manufactures.. interesting.. thanks for posting dude. You deserve many more subs man. Pete 🚴🏻👍👍
@@ribblevalleycyclist no Tx with a 13s rotor cassette. Still can’t buy the gravel set. Well it shows available on alliexpress but the wheeltop site says preorder. I still can’t believe no one has figured out you can buy a Shimano HG 13s cassette compatible with 12s chain and pair it with a wheeltop eds system today. Again I have a video of it working on my channel.
"Groupset" is just a set of parts, and they should be compatible. Ive never used a complete kit, having to swap out cranks, chainrings and probably cassette anyway for fit/use. Thanks for the review this looks really interesting.
The more speeds you fit in the same width, the lowsier the shifting gets. The position tolerance becomes a real issue. You can see this even from 11 to 12sp shimano.
Eyup, PT. To be honest, I can't imagine the shifting will be great. That ZTTO cassette seems well bolted together, but the profile of the teeth seem a little..... rudimentary. Watch this space, I'm sure you're a subscriber 😉
NO!!!! I will start off by saying I wish I had never sold my Bridgstone RB1 and custom built Cannondale, but I do not want to go back to downtube shifters for the bike I ride daily.
Hi Jon, It looks as if WT are taking onboard feedback from the likes of your good self and others with respect updating the products, hopefully the updates will also be reflected when they update the road group set, and if so i will duly consider. Looking forward to the next video.
I have lived for 6 years in China before 20 years in the USA, I own a wheeltop eds tx with a 13 speed cassette, everything works very well and I am very satisfied .In China, the 13 speed 11-34 cassette is already produced and there is an announcement that in 3 months the xdr 14 speed 10-36 cassette will be released ,chains for 13 speed have been produced for a year,the same chain will be able to be used for 14 speed ,what is happening now in China in the bicycle industry is frame 650 gram with a fork 870-890 gram , formed two companies ltwoo and wheeltop that produce groups of high quality fixtures and applicable from 7 to 14 speed no need to buy a new flu when the cartridge manufacturer will release a cartridge for 13 or 14 speed. greetings from Shenyang China.
I've got the EDS TX here in Canada, but I've looked everywhere for a 13-speed road cassette. Do you have a link to those Chinese 13-speed cassettes? I can't even find them on AliExpress
I know people roll their eyes at the idea of 13 & 14 speed cassettes, but It's where things start to get a bit more interesting as it's right in the ballpark to give you an even spread (no big jumps) across a typical road gear range with no redundancy/duplicates. Effectively giving you the equivalent of a 2x11 or 2x10 (depending on your chosen range) in a 1x. Doesn't solve chainline issues, of course, but then again, how much time do we actually spend in the highest and lowest gears? Most people (including me) already treat 2x12 more like a 2x11+1 opting for a 11-34/36 over the typical 11-28/32. Maybe that's why they are offering a rim brake option?🤷♂
My personal choice as a rider, I'm not a fan of 1x, and I personally don't see the benefit of 12/13/14 speed. 1x - I spend my life in the big dog (52), turning those cranks slow. Only when the road ahead gets unpleasant, do I shift to the granny ring. I don't do any serious gravel, so I know I'll spin this groupset out constantly. 12/13/14 speed - In most cases, requires a narrower chain, which will be more vulnerable to failure. Additionally, no 12/13 speed user will agree with this point, but because of the restrictions created by the freehub depth, 11 shifts better.
There are at least as much chainline issues on 2X than 1X. Most of riding is done at the middle of the range where big is too big and small is too small and i'm mostly never satisfied what i end up riding on 2X. For pros it's ok because except the steepest climb they ride Big and small on the occasional long steep climb. But for most of us 2X is un balanced.
@@TheAntoine191 I'm talking "chainline issues" more in terms of physical limitations than gear ratios, 1x12 wide range is already pushing it to the point the chain wants to fall down the cassette, adding 1 or 2 more cogs is only going to make the cassette wider, exacerbating the issue.
@@chris1275cc i don't think so. When riding double one often cross chain if it's a short hill for example which is much worse than 1X. Been riding 12s huge mtb cassette for nearly a decade with (mostly) no issue. Only problem is when manucaturer put drivetrain for 52mm on 55mm chainline which is often nowaday.
These new brake calipers look awesome. Wish they offered them in Eds Tx as their are not so nice-I switched to my ultegra r8000 calipers. Thankfully they work fine with EDS TX
I saw a post months ago on one of the Wheeltop feeds showing callipers similar to these, but in all different colours, and what looked like a CNC finish...... Oh, and twin pot! They looked like the Hope offering. It was an Insta post from back in May. They're called the BR-RA7800...... This was it, I think: instagram.com/wheeltopmalaysia/p/C7EX4RzpvlK/?img_index=1
Would be interested to know how well this shifts with a smaller cassette - if its designed for 51 teeth does that compromise the shift quality if you’re only using say 11-34 teeth?
@@leomedina5760 Thanks - my reasoning was to ride 11-34 most of the time but to be able to swap to a bigger cassette for very hilly events by changing just the cassette.
Brilliant video mate, wheeltop have said twice there would love for me to review there groupset as soon as Six get involved there bomb me off, shame as I would love to review it
@LakeDistrictcyclist - It's happened to me too mate, on stuff I'd love to feature on the channel, and I think I could add value. Don't take it personally. @PeakTorque - Watched that vid with you & Joe discussing Wheeltop, and know you'd like a closer look. I'm not a million miles from you 🤔
These gravel shifters look the same as their road version, I wonder can they be paired with a road version front derailleur by doing which will give you a huge range of gears ratio and fully wireless. If they do can, I will call it the group set of the year without hesitation.
No they can't, there are some software issues need to be fixed before the GEX RD can be paired with TX FD. They tell me they will release the 2x system later this year.
Super interested in that. Could rival SRAM RED XPLR 13s groupset that costs £2,500 without cranks & discs…!! WEIGHT woulda been interesting tho! At least comparing it with the road version’s weight! ROTOR also make 13s cassette.
The one thing annoying me so much is these Chinese brand often use the 1st batch of customer as a testing platform , and only release update / final version later. Experience on the L-too eRX ( the first batch of the brake lever joint is made with plastic and it brakes easily the later version they changed it with alloy) , as well as the wheeltop EDS ( they changed the brake shifter rubber, the 1st version is so stiff like brick and 2nd version they replaced with a softer rubber). So if u r getting the version 1.0 of these product , good luck.
Wheeltop changed the shifter rubber..... Did they???? I never knew that. This GeX groupset uses the road shifters, and the rubber is still as tough as old boots!
@@ribblevalleycyclist They indeed have a new rubber. It is included when u brought the groupset, aka 2 pair of rubber in the package. They sold it separately as well.
The big appeal of Wheeltop to me is the stealth black aesthetic and minimal branding. This moves away from that with the grey paint and I'm not a fan. I hope you can provide feedback that the people want the stealth black looks! Otherwise looks great!
I will consider buying use but only after it will have been some time on the market and we see some proper amd unsponsored reviews. Right now it's too much of a gamble considering issues with tx. I wonder if they fixed the problem with non-encrypted/paired signal transmission which is I heard is an issue with tx leading to being able to change gears on someone else's tx derailleur with your brifter. I also wonder if they made any update to the companion app as it is not quite user friendly and it is hard to set up tx to work properly with it. Also, this gex has a race and casual modes which change the speed of shifting and apparently in the race mode the derailleur does not poweroff at all as in casual mode, draining the battery. That's a big overlook. Their website says that brake pads are shimano compatible, e.g. L05A, so 26.4 mm wide. They brakes use mineral oil and shimano bh-59 fittings
Is there a mention anywhere of the actual price of this groupset? Or hv I missed it. I searched online, found what appears to be Wheeltop's oficial website - and it only offers one option of buying at over £8000 - which doesn't add up - I believe it's actually a gravel bike they're selling with the groupset - didn't hv time to look in detail. You did say it's going to be released in October. Any comments on this would be welcome, ie. actual retail price. Thanks 👍 One can buy from there the road bike groupset (on sale it seems) and previously reviewed by you here om your channel.
@@ribblevalleycyclist The price was USD $750'ish yesterday, today the price is $11k, so something afooot. At $750 it is only marginally cheaper than Sram mullet mini-groupset.... but wouldn't need XD hub body and cassette purchases if not already on them
@SamuelBlackMetalRider Oh, I’ll be using a 12-speed on the build, but I stuck that cassette on an 11-speed bike the other day, and although the derailleur couldn’t utilise the entire cassette, the shifting was fine.
Surely the left lever because it has a small lever will mean that it can run as a 2x front. Simply clicking the lever will either shift it up or down. In fact if you read their website it says it is compatible with the TX FD so it should work as a 2x. lol .. their website says the groupset is $16000 .. i think there is a bit of an error
Looks like Wheeltop has now gone public with their website, but the price isn't correct. It wasn't showing yesterday. I will need to do some testing with the left lever, but my understanding is that they'll look at this in the future.
Hi there, I have the same GEX groupset but mine can't align to the smallest cog during initial calibration. Not sure if it is design flaw/issue or my frame/hanger is not compatible. So now I can only use my 2nd smallest cog up to the biggest with no problems though. Pls let me know if you encounter the same issue or if you found a possible solution. Wheeltop is not answering my emails. Thanks and cheers!
Yeah hope you get it setup without issues. I made some workaround.. put 3 flat M12 washers between the driveside drop out and wheel effectively moving the hanger a few mm then added another ceramic washer when i installed the RD to the hanger further moving it a few mm.. I was able to align to the smallest cog (9 tooth) and across the range flawlessly.. i did put thread locker to the RD bolt to ensure it will not move at all..
Was in the workshop yesterday taking a look at the setup. It won’t work if you mount directly onto the hanger, as the derailleur (93mm) misses the first few sprockets, and also hits the cassette. It needs a hander extension
@@ribblevalleycyclist That's the problem of everything nowadays. I don't mind if the box has a scratch, it's purpose is to protect the content 😉 One other question, are the batteries replaceable or are they hard wired with the components?
Interesting that their electronic MTB derailleur is 10-52t, whereas the GEX is 11-51t. Shame you can't mix and match, although the MTB is 100g heavier. They list 11-51t for the 93mm cage, but then state the smallest cost option is 10-11t further down the specs
Answer my own question, I contacted Wheeltop. They said that during their testing many gravel frames would work with 52t but not all, so they set the specs at max 51t to be safe. That was from their support email.
A ZTTO 13 speed cassette will work with either an 11 or 12 speed drivetrain, I’ve tested it. Eventually, someone will make 14 speed, it’s only a matter of time. So this groupset works with all current, as well as future generations
Has every bike RUclipsr been sent this shifter and derailleur (it has too many parts missing to be a groupset)? Wheeltop are certainly spending lots on marketing
You ridiculed rim brake option but stated being targeted at upgrade, well exactly some people with rim brake bikes will want to upgrade bikes power train. Well done TDS
OK! In the early 90's, I was annoyed with people who complained about the expanding cassettes beyond 5. "Eddie won five on five" was the mantra. So, this may sound a little hypocritical of me now. But, I think it just needs to stop now. 12, maybe 13 is more than enough. I have three bikes with SRAM. Two with a mullet setup. The range is crazy.
Non removable battery is the deal breaker here👎. Saying it's a patent issue for preventing removable battery it's like saying one car manufacturer can put a "patent" on on cars with 4 wheels...???
In case this is not supposed a joke: no. Depending on the cassette range and the jump between the 2 chainrings 2x7 gives you 8 to 10 distinct gear ratios.
@@detmer87 I couldn't care less about stuff like this. I'm not going to win a pro race anyway. Losses due to cross chaining are pretty much negligible for the average Joe anyway. What does have a bigger impact is losses due to higher chain articulation with smaller (1x) chain rings.
Hi Jon,i'm just revisiting this production for the umpteenth time,what a masterpiece it is,many thanks buddy.
Thought you’d like it 👍
I have cable discs on my gravel bike; such an easy setup, and I'm satisfied with the braking performance. So I would consider getting the rim brake version.
14 speed groupset without 14 speed cassettes. By this logic, my friction shifters are a CVT. 😂 Thanks for sharing with us anyway, keep up the good work.
Eyup, Joe. C'mon, we all know it's only a matter of time 🤣. All a bit pointless though, in my personal opinion. What was that famous quote from Spinal Tap?.... "But this one goes to 11" 😉
@@ribblevalleycyclist It's good for marketing though, so, get them a bit of attention. :)
Ensuring future compatibility is a refreshing difference from the major brands that can't even seem to make their OWN 11spd stuff work with their new 12spd stuff.😂
Over at seraphbikes they claim to be shipping 2x14 EDS TX complete bikes. Featuring a "colourful" 10-36 cassette and a just as colourful "SUMC-14S" chain both of which I can't find elsewhere in the wild.
@@galenkehler I bet the battery will be toast before you can get a 14-speed cassette
Wow this is the first I’ve heard of this group set certainly ahead of the game from the other manufactures.. interesting.. thanks for posting dude. You deserve many more subs man. Pete 🚴🏻👍👍
Yep, hot off the press that one. Landed on the doorstep at 09:45, was in the workshop filming before 10!!
Thanks Pete 👍
@@ribblevalleycyclistwell done buddy top work 😊 Pete
Really? I have been running the rotor 13s 10/36 cassette and the wheeltop eds for months now with great success.
@@hill160881 What, you've been running EDS GeX for months, where did you get it from?
@@ribblevalleycyclist no Tx with a 13s rotor cassette. Still can’t buy the gravel set. Well it shows available on alliexpress but the wheeltop site says preorder. I still can’t believe no one has figured out you can buy a Shimano HG 13s cassette compatible with 12s chain and pair it with a wheeltop eds system today. Again I have a video of it working on my channel.
"Groupset" is just a set of parts, and they should be compatible. Ive never used a complete kit, having to swap out cranks, chainrings and probably cassette anyway for fit/use.
Thanks for the review this looks really interesting.
olives are shimano now. thanks for the unboxing.
Thanks for unboxing! Can you please tell me if the rear derailleur has a clutch system? From your video, it seems so but no mentioning on its website.
I'm excited looks great 👍
I'm dreading getting the thing to work 🤣
The more speeds you fit in the same width, the lowsier the shifting gets. The position tolerance becomes a real issue. You can see this even from 11 to 12sp shimano.
Eyup, PT. To be honest, I can't imagine the shifting will be great. That ZTTO cassette seems well bolted together, but the profile of the teeth seem a little..... rudimentary.
Watch this space, I'm sure you're a subscriber 😉
Ratio-upgraded 12-speed mechanical SRAM 1x works like a dream
Vintage Road Bike With Downtube Shifters & Rim Brakes for the win 🤙🤙
They’re a beautiful thing. I’m lucky enough to own a Raleigh Record Sprint, that I restored some years back.
NO!!!! I will start off by saying I wish I had never sold my Bridgstone RB1 and custom built Cannondale, but I do not want to go back to downtube shifters for the bike I ride daily.
Downtube blips, rim brakes, & electronic shifting.
Hi Jon, It looks as if WT are taking onboard feedback from the likes of your good self and others with respect updating the products, hopefully the updates will also be reflected when they update the road group set, and if so i will duly consider. Looking forward to the next video.
If only they'd take onboard the point about the hood rubbers 😬. Just dropped a wheel vid.
I have lived for 6 years in China before 20 years in the USA, I own a wheeltop eds tx with a 13 speed cassette, everything works very well and I am very satisfied .In China, the 13 speed 11-34 cassette is already produced and there is an announcement that in 3 months the xdr 14 speed 10-36 cassette will be released ,chains for 13 speed have been produced for a year,the same chain will be able to be used for 14 speed ,what is happening now in China in the bicycle industry is frame 650 gram with a fork 870-890 gram , formed two companies ltwoo and wheeltop that produce groups of high quality fixtures and applicable from 7 to 14 speed no need to buy a new flu when the cartridge manufacturer will release a cartridge for 13 or 14 speed. greetings from Shenyang China.
I've got the EDS TX here in Canada, but I've looked everywhere for a 13-speed road cassette. Do you have a link to those Chinese 13-speed cassettes? I can't even find them on AliExpress
I know people roll their eyes at the idea of 13 & 14 speed cassettes, but It's where things start to get a bit more interesting as it's right in the ballpark to give you an even spread (no big jumps) across a typical road gear range with no redundancy/duplicates. Effectively giving you the equivalent of a 2x11 or 2x10 (depending on your chosen range) in a 1x. Doesn't solve chainline issues, of course, but then again, how much time do we actually spend in the highest and lowest gears? Most people (including me) already treat 2x12 more like a 2x11+1 opting for a 11-34/36 over the typical 11-28/32.
Maybe that's why they are offering a rim brake option?🤷♂
My personal choice as a rider, I'm not a fan of 1x, and I personally don't see the benefit of 12/13/14 speed.
1x - I spend my life in the big dog (52), turning those cranks slow. Only when the road ahead gets unpleasant, do I shift to the granny ring. I don't do any serious gravel, so I know I'll spin this groupset out constantly.
12/13/14 speed - In most cases, requires a narrower chain, which will be more vulnerable to failure. Additionally, no 12/13 speed user will agree with this point, but because of the restrictions created by the freehub depth, 11 shifts better.
There are at least as much chainline issues on 2X than 1X. Most of riding is done at the middle of the range where big is too big and small is too small and i'm mostly never satisfied what i end up riding on 2X. For pros it's ok because except the steepest climb they ride Big and small on the occasional long steep climb. But for most of us 2X is un balanced.
@@TheAntoine191 I'm talking "chainline issues" more in terms of physical limitations than gear ratios, 1x12 wide range is already pushing it to the point the chain wants to fall down the cassette, adding 1 or 2 more cogs is only going to make the cassette wider, exacerbating the issue.
@@chris1275cc i don't think so. When riding double one often cross chain if it's a short hill for example which is much worse than 1X. Been riding 12s huge mtb cassette for nearly a decade with (mostly) no issue. Only problem is when manucaturer put drivetrain for 52mm on 55mm chainline which is often nowaday.
@@TheAntoine191 Cross chaining on a 2x is a choice, if you shift correctly and compensate, there are no issues.
These new brake calipers look awesome. Wish they offered them in Eds Tx as their are not so nice-I switched to my ultegra r8000 calipers. Thankfully they work fine with EDS TX
I saw a post months ago on one of the Wheeltop feeds showing callipers similar to these, but in all different colours, and what looked like a CNC finish...... Oh, and twin pot! They looked like the Hope offering. It was an Insta post from back in May. They're called the BR-RA7800...... This was it, I think:
instagram.com/wheeltopmalaysia/p/C7EX4RzpvlK/?img_index=1
Would be interested to know how well this shifts with a smaller cassette - if its designed for 51 teeth does that compromise the shift quality if you’re only using say 11-34 teeth?
To be honest, if thats your market, you should also consider their EDS TX groupset. You'll find two videos on my channel about it.
There is 75mm version of this RD
@@leomedina5760 Thanks - my reasoning was to ride 11-34 most of the time but to be able to swap to a bigger cassette for very hilly events by changing just the cassette.
Brilliant video mate, wheeltop have said twice there would love for me to review there groupset as soon as Six get involved there bomb me off, shame as I would love to review it
Same…
@@PeakTorque bit unprofessional for me so hopefully customers service for buyers isn’t same attitude
@LakeDistrictcyclist - It's happened to me too mate, on stuff I'd love to feature on the channel, and I think I could add value. Don't take it personally.
@PeakTorque - Watched that vid with you & Joe discussing Wheeltop, and know you'd like a closer look. I'm not a million miles from you 🤔
@@ribblevalleycyclist cheers, but i think i dodged a bullet 🥲. Never say never but glad i just bought the di2 and got on with life 😄
Thanks, I'ma stick to fully mechanical 1x10 and 2x8
hope its good.price point and european warranty are two key components for me
I suspect it'll be cheaper than the road version, as there is no carbon fibre involved....... saying that though, the new callipers are a bit fancy!
These gravel shifters look the same as their road version, I wonder can they be paired with a road version front derailleur by doing which will give you a huge range of gears ratio and fully wireless. If they do can, I will call it the group set of the year without hesitation.
I’ll be testing that.
@@ribblevalleycyclist Wow 🤩 that’s great! Really looking forward to that!
No they can't, there are some software issues need to be fixed before the GEX RD can be paired with TX FD. They tell me they will release the 2x system later this year.
@@BernardH-vd6fh Well, good to know there is a 2x version coming, but, you know, then I hope that 2x version can use a long leg rear derailleur.🤣
Super interested in that. Could rival SRAM RED XPLR 13s groupset that costs £2,500 without cranks & discs…!! WEIGHT woulda been interesting tho! At least comparing it with the road version’s weight! ROTOR also make 13s cassette.
Good point that, I should've weighed it. May get a short done for it.
The one thing annoying me so much is these Chinese brand often use the 1st batch of customer as a testing platform , and only release update / final version later. Experience on the L-too eRX ( the first batch of the brake lever joint is made with plastic and it brakes easily the later version they changed it with alloy) , as well as the wheeltop EDS ( they changed the brake shifter rubber, the 1st version is so stiff like brick and 2nd version they replaced with a softer rubber). So if u r getting the version 1.0 of these product , good luck.
Wheeltop changed the shifter rubber..... Did they???? I never knew that. This GeX groupset uses the road shifters, and the rubber is still as tough as old boots!
@kev how do you know they updated the hoods?
@@expectedlobster they sold the new version rubber hood in their official store for 34CNY a pair.
@@ribblevalleycyclist They indeed have a new rubber. It is included when u brought the groupset, aka 2 pair of rubber in the package. They sold it separately as well.
Was in the workshop yesterday toying with the groupset, the shifters they’ve sent me have the same hard rubber as the previous ones.
I hope this performs well unlike the eds tx which has lot of issues when it first released.
Hope to get it all setup soon, watch this space.
The big appeal of Wheeltop to me is the stealth black aesthetic and minimal branding. This moves away from that with the grey paint and I'm not a fan. I hope you can provide feedback that the people want the stealth black looks! Otherwise looks great!
I will consider buying use but only after it will have been some time on the market and we see some proper amd unsponsored reviews. Right now it's too much of a gamble considering issues with tx. I wonder if they fixed the problem with non-encrypted/paired signal transmission which is I heard is an issue with tx leading to being able to change gears on someone else's tx derailleur with your brifter. I also wonder if they made any update to the companion app as it is not quite user friendly and it is hard to set up tx to work properly with it. Also, this gex has a race and casual modes which change the speed of shifting and apparently in the race mode the derailleur does not poweroff at all as in casual mode, draining the battery. That's a big overlook.
Their website says that brake pads are shimano compatible, e.g. L05A, so 26.4 mm wide. They brakes use mineral oil and shimano bh-59 fittings
Is there a mention anywhere of the actual price of this groupset? Or hv I missed it.
I searched online, found what appears to be Wheeltop's oficial website - and it only offers one option of buying at over £8000 - which doesn't add up - I believe it's actually a gravel bike they're selling with the groupset - didn't hv time to look in detail. You did say it's going to be released in October. Any comments on this would be welcome, ie. actual retail price. Thanks 👍
One can buy from there the road bike groupset (on sale it seems) and previously reviewed by you here om your channel.
Not technically being launched for a few weeks yet, so no prices yet.
@@ribblevalleycyclist The price was USD $750'ish yesterday, today the price is $11k, so something afooot. At $750 it is only marginally cheaper than Sram mullet mini-groupset.... but wouldn't need XD hub body and cassette purchases if not already on them
that one was rather easy to see coming - roadshifters where here and MTB shifters too - right
Are there 14 speed chains to use with it or will a 12 speed work?
Jockey wheels aren't that precise, so it'll work with 11/12 speed chains. And that dinner plate of a cassette is happy with an 11 speed chain.
@@ribblevalleycyclistoh that 13s cassette works with 11s chain?! Interesting… I would’ve at least put a 12s chain myself hahahaha
@SamuelBlackMetalRider Oh, I’ll be using a 12-speed on the build, but I stuck that cassette on an 11-speed bike the other day, and although the derailleur couldn’t utilise the entire cassette, the shifting was fine.
Surely the left lever because it has a small lever will mean that it can run as a 2x front. Simply clicking the lever will either shift it up or down. In fact if you read their website it says it is compatible with the TX FD so it should work as a 2x. lol .. their website says the groupset is $16000 .. i think there is a bit of an error
Looks like Wheeltop has now gone public with their website, but the price isn't correct. It wasn't showing yesterday. I will need to do some testing with the left lever, but my understanding is that they'll look at this in the future.
If the left shifter is customisable, perhaps a dropper post remote? We just need a cost effective wireless dropper post addon.
Hi there, I have the same GEX groupset but mine can't align to the smallest cog during initial calibration. Not sure if it is design flaw/issue or my frame/hanger is not compatible. So now I can only use my 2nd smallest cog up to the biggest with no problems though. Pls let me know if you encounter the same issue or if you found a possible solution. Wheeltop is not answering my emails. Thanks and cheers!
Which email you sent to? They relpy me pretty fast.
Hope to get it all setup soon, watch this space.
Yeah hope you get it setup without issues. I made some workaround.. put 3 flat M12 washers between the driveside drop out and wheel effectively moving the hanger a few mm then added another ceramic washer when i installed the RD to the hanger further moving it a few mm.. I was able to align to the smallest cog (9 tooth) and across the range flawlessly.. i did put thread locker to the RD bolt to ensure it will not move at all..
Was in the workshop yesterday taking a look at the setup. It won’t work if you mount directly onto the hanger, as the derailleur (93mm) misses the first few sprockets, and also hits the cassette. It needs a hander extension
@@ribblevalleycyclist Asked their team, you will need to use a normal hanger rather than UDH
Will there be a 2x version? Currently no alternative to GRX di2.
2x system will be in the future
Why does everything needs to be wrapped in tons of plastic? I don't get it 🙄
Besides that, great vid 👍🏻
Was thinking that as I unboxed it….. Isn’t the box sufficient!
@@ribblevalleycyclist That's the problem of everything nowadays. I don't mind if the box has a scratch, it's purpose is to protect the content 😉
One other question, are the batteries replaceable or are they hard wired with the components?
@tomhilbi80 Hard wired…. And therein lies the problem!
Plastic outside box is to protect from moisture.
If anyone will ever make a 14 speed cassettes, I'm pretty sure that the largest sprocket will be bigger than 51T.
The issue is getting a derailleur that work with something as big as a dinner plate..... Getting a bit silly really.
Interesting that their electronic MTB derailleur is 10-52t, whereas the GEX is 11-51t. Shame you can't mix and match, although the MTB is 100g heavier.
They list 11-51t for the 93mm cage, but then state the smallest cost option is 10-11t further down the specs
Answer my own question, I contacted Wheeltop. They said that during their testing many gravel frames would work with 52t but not all, so they set the specs at max 51t to be safe. That was from their support email.
Slight flaw... Who already has 14sp so how do you upgrade an 11/12/13sp groupset to this without chain, cassette and chainset?
A ZTTO 13 speed cassette will work with either an 11 or 12 speed drivetrain, I’ve tested it. Eventually, someone will make 14 speed, it’s only a matter of time. So this groupset works with all current, as well as future generations
Has every bike RUclipsr been sent this shifter and derailleur (it has too many parts missing to be a groupset)? Wheeltop are certainly spending lots on marketing
Knowing Wheeltop, they will have peppered the RUclips creators with this groupset!!
by the way my groupset came with the TX calipers not the new sets you have... 😢
Watched a few Chinese unboxings when doing research, and they all had the road callipers. Suspect Wheeltop rushed this one through.
TX used the old version calipers, this is the new one.
The new calipers looked insanely the same as the ZRACE hydros...
HOW MUCH IS IT???
No price yet, their official website shows that it will start selling on 8th Oct.
14 speed Cassette?
I did look for one, don't think such a thing exists...... yet 🤣
14s cassette is specially desgined for their OEM partner, you could customize a 14s if you want.
@@ribblevalleycyclistit does exist. Check chinertown, I've posted there.
i try their tx and it was not my apple. quality is not there yet. their level is still below sram quality.
You ridiculed rim brake option but stated being targeted at upgrade, well exactly some people with rim brake bikes will want to upgrade bikes power train. Well done TDS
Then buy the road version, it’s a superior system, that has been designed for use with rim brake bikes.
OK! In the early 90's, I was annoyed with people who complained about the expanding cassettes beyond 5. "Eddie won five on five" was the mantra. So, this may sound a little hypocritical of me now. But, I think it just needs to stop now. 12, maybe 13 is more than enough. I have three bikes with SRAM. Two with a mullet setup. The range is crazy.
Well said! You can have a 27 sprocket cassette, but it ain't gonna do you any favours on Hardknott Pass!!
Non removable battery is the deal breaker here👎. Saying it's a patent issue for preventing removable battery it's like saying one car manufacturer can put a "patent" on on cars with 4 wheels...???
Totally agree. I think they would have a viable case challenging it.
@ribblevalleycyclist I believe it's a lousy way to keep manufacturing costs down specially waterproofing issues...
You know what's better than 1x14? 2x7
In case this is not supposed a joke: no. Depending on the cassette range and the jump between the 2 chainrings 2x7 gives you 8 to 10 distinct gear ratios.
@@williwacker2774 The same can't be said about the chain line and the drive train efficiency.
@@detmer87 I couldn't care less about stuff like this. I'm not going to win a pro race anyway. Losses due to cross chaining are pretty much negligible for the average Joe anyway. What does have a bigger impact is losses due to higher chain articulation with smaller (1x) chain rings.
I hate 1x
You are free to not use it then.
I hate waiting for a train, in the pouring rain.
That's why I cycle.
I also hate caviar, jazz funk and politics.
@JibbaJabber I hate quiche with spinach in it…… I mean, what is that all about?
I hate when other youtubers get stuff and i din't 😢😂
One by's simplify things/ ... then go to a single speed and get out of the saddle!!!! Even more simple!