Just to show the difference: Prochazka gets injured - vacates the belt to not hold the division Jon Jones gets injured - keeps the belt as hostage and actively ducks the contender
You ppl are actually brain dead. I wonder who has more of a brand out of jiri, hill & jones hmmm 🤔 Oh that’s right you ppl must have just got here this the goat you’re talking about 😂
And UFC is OK with it because they know Francis is the baddest man on the planet and they want Jones to be that so bad but he isn’t. He won’t take any chances. I don’t care how good your resume is that’s a weak mentality to say you get to pick your fights that fit ur style just cause ur resume lmao
Jiří Procházka and Jamahal Hill, did the honourable thing when they were title holders, both gave up the belt when injured in order to win it back once fit again. Two perfect examples that Jones should be following.
it’s obviously his last fight as his body is breaking down i don’t know why people like to avoid this. He wants to retain a legacy by fighting the easiest fight for the most reward possible. That’s the been the fight business forever tbh
@@kieranj1332because he got banned multiple times too and couldn’t fight because of charges out side of the cage as well. He didn’t need all that time to “bulk”. It was bs. He just ducked francis, plain and simple.
I completely agree. Jon is simply avoiding a dominant contender who poses a threat to his legacy goals. It's a shame because I just wanna see these 2 monsters battle. People are saying one would destroy the other based on who they like more, objectively I think this is quite a close fight.
@@kieranj1332that was over 6 years ago, which is irrelevant. We are in 2024, jones is the heavyweight champ and he should be facing the interim champ as that’s how it works. If you don’t want to do that, you should be stripped and you’re officially ducking
@@pavasite4278 it’s not how it works, he planned to fight stipe so he’s gonna fight stipe, your crying over 1 guy about ducking him 😂 then the fat geordie saying he was ducking ngannou, when that stiff clown is calling out people half his size
The amount of Jon Jones simps out there coddling him is just pathetic. Jones duct Francis and now he's ducking Tom, because he's scared of keeping his precious little record.
jones duct francis? so the 205 pounder should just go up and fight a 267 francis? maybe he needed time to put on weight and strength to properly compete with the heavyweights? if francis was still within the ufc jones would have fought him. people just love to hate.
He has every right to retire whenever he sees fit he has nothing left to prove and the stipe fight was already booked before any of you simps even knew aspinall name
A lot of people overlook this but Jones himself said he avoided fighting DC at heavyweight because it was too much of a risk, as DC has knockout power at heavyweight.
hw is by far the hardest weight class to have a good record in there's a reason nobody have good title defences at heavyweight cause everybody has ko power, idk why people are overlooking stipe and acting like gsp didn't get a title shot after time off in a weight class hadn't even fought in and people didn't say a thing people just like tom and don't like jones so are acting like this a new thing
@@edge3369 People are overlooking Stipe because it's a well known fact that father time gets to all fighters, no matter how great they are. Plus Stipe absorbed so much damage in the DC trilogy and Ngannou knockout. And bro you used the worst example to compare to. Plenty of people called out the GSP middleweight fight as BS because it got in the way of Whittaker who was the interim champ. Literally everyone was hating on Bisping for dodging the top contenders. That situation was identical to this Jones-Stipe-Aspinal situation. Yeah GSP returned and won but he returned to Bisping, not someone like Jones.
@@zee4125 i wouldn't say most people the general consensus was it was a ok fight because it was GSP and people were hyped for his return and that's what people think now
I feel like the UFC want to keep a hold of Jon wearing the belt so they can have the Stipe fight headline a big event for a title. But the UFC have literally invented a belt for these purposes and (regardless of divided opinion on it) it was good for business. The BMF worked for that fight at that time. So why not, ask Jon to either sign to fight Tom next OR he relinquishes/is stripped of the Undisputed belt and make the Stipe fight for a ‘GOAT’ belt, a special one similar to the BMF. Division can move on and be legitimate, they can have the legacy super fight, and have it be for a title in all the promos. Thoughts?
I'm thinking, and hoping, the ufc is being pushed into such a corner here that they have no choice but to do something, which could be getting that belt back from him. Sorry sorry, but we have no choice look at the chaos, and offering up a goat belt in return might be enough for him to not have a bitch fit for eternity. After all, that title is what he really wants.
To the Jon Jones fans who say “Jon has earned his right to a legacy fight, him and Stipe are legends”. Genuine question, what do you not understand about him being the current World champion? As the current World champion, you SHOULD fight the next in line who has earned it, and Tom as the interim champion, has absolutely earned that right There is no room for sentiment in sport at the HIGHEST level. You don’t just allow people an easier path because we respect what they did in years gone by. If he wants to defend his title then he fights Tom. If he wants his sentimental legacy fight, then he should release the title. How can people not get that? Remove your biases and look at this objectively It’s like if Portugal get to the World Cup final in a couple of years and it’s CR7s last ever game, it would be like the ref allowing Ronaldo to run thru clear on goal and score because of what he’s done for the game. You lose the essence of what sport is about when you start gifting people an easy ride, and that’s exactly what Jones is trying to get with fighting Stipe (a man who can barely walk).
Stick to football pal. Jones fi ished a guy who beat have the current HW roster. Tom got submitted outside the UFC and has the same number of sub wins as Gane. He has nothing to gain from fighting Tom.
An even clearer example would be if Usman took 3 years out after the Edwards KO and say Makachev was WW champ. But Makachev didn’t wanna fight an active number one contender like say Belal or Shavkat for example and was adamant on only fighting Usman. That would be ludicrous and everyone would call him a coward. But JJ gets preferential treatment by the UFC and his fans will take his word for gospel
Jon jones vs stipe was just about to happen before Tom was even a paper champ, jones wiped the floor with supposedly his worst match up with a guy that’s as quick as gane, jones has never ducked a fight in his life, let Tom defend his fake title or will he wait it out for a big pay day??? Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the latter
@@colecole6447ahahahahgagahahahaha one dimensional Gane would get smoked by Pavlovich and Aspinall. He had a close fight against Volkov, look what Aspinall did to him. Got dropped by Tuivasa and look what Pavlovich did to him. Aspinall would KO Jones stiff in the first. That’s a guarantee
@@colecole6447 You can’t tell me to stick to football, implying I know nothing about MMA, when you’ve just done the cardinal sin of doing MMA math which everyone knows is useless. Styles make fights, and Tom is a BAD match up for Jon. The fact you mentioned Tom being submitted outside of the UFC shows you’re clutching at straws too. It’s a sport. If you love Jon Jones and he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, that’s absolutely fine mate, but you know in your heart of hearts that the interim champion DESERVES to fight the current champion. I’ve been following the UFC since 2009, I’ve witnessed Dana speak about the best fighting the best for years and years, if you like the politics maybe you should stick to boxing.
And this is why I love this channel. Telling it like it is. No holding back. Aren't we all sick of self appointed GOATs, cheery picking fights so they can spend their retirement dining out on their so called legacy. The UFC needs to step up and reassert who runs the business. In the likes of Jones and McGregor we've got the tail wagging the dog.
Tom Aspinall Heavyweight résumé 8 wins 1 loss Win over Jake Collier by KO/TKO round 1 Win over Alan Baudot by KO/TKO round 1 Win over Andrei Arlovski by submission round 2 Win over Serghei Spivac by KO/TKO round 1 Win over Alexander Volkov by Submission round 1 Loss to Curtis Blaydes by injury Win over Marcin Tybura KO/TKO round 1 Win over Sergei Pavlovich KO/TKO round 1 Jon Jones Heavyweight résumé 1 win 0 losses Win over Ciryl Gane by submission round 1 Now guess which one is currently the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world...
Jon Jones maths, he doesn't know 90% of 9 people, so he is aware of 0.9 of these fighters....I'm guessing he knows arlovski , but can't remember his first name.
5:18 💯🔥 8:10 🎯 So true about the interview to fight DC at HW! It was after DC beat Stipe in 1st fight! Jon had said he would fight DC at HW before that, but after he KO'd Stipe in 1st fight, he said he would only fight DC at 205! I remember seeing that! 😂
Tom is straight up scary when you examine him he’s got such a diverse set of skills in every position and he’s fast, agile and got a high fight iq . He’s going to be one of the best ever, I truly believe that from what I’ve seen
Bro. These current American fighters/boxers think that they're the best in the world with out even fighting the best. They're so deluded and just loving to live up with the hype jobs (boxing/MMA both).
@@R.W-ju1tg jones fight iq is way higher, he's great at nullifying his opponents and he's got much better wrestling and submission. you think jones is gonna just gonna go in there and swing with him?
Something I can't stand in UFC is when you're an upcoming fighter, you are getting as many fights in as possible to prove yourself and make a name. Then for some reason so many of these fighters that make it to champion think its fine to walk around flexing the title proving they got it, but without proof they can keep it. Then they just continue to say they'd take anyone in the division without actually making the fight.
Geordie you're on point mate i mean if Jones and Stipe want the legacy fight let them do it for a legacy belt vacate the Belt and let the division move on ... Jiri and Jamal both vacated their belts because they believe they can get it back and didnt want to hold up the division but Jones wont because he knows its harder for him to defend against Tom than Stipe.... period
Dom Reyes took so much of Jon's aura away. Jones has fought once in the 3 years and 11 months since, and seems to avoid people he thinks/knows he'd lose to now.
He lost to Dominic Reyes clearly, A guy who’s never won since. That’s the moment that he realized Francis would fuck him up which is why he avoided him like the plague.
That fight was February 8th 2020 too; a few weeks short of 4 years. Jon's had 2 minutes 4 seconds against Gane since. Reyes broke him. Broke any sense in Jon that he could take on all-comers.
It's honestly pretty simple why the UFC is keen on the Jones v Stipe fight. They want to be known as the organisation where the consensus GOAT of the sport became the GOAT. There's powerful brand value in the UFC being able to "claim" Jones, if that makes sense. If Jones loses to Aspinall, all those bragging rights go away. No way Dana's risking that. Having said that, aint nobody wanna see that Jones v Stipe fight.
How on earth is Miocic getting a title shot off being beaten up by Ngannou 3 years ago and not winning a fight in 4 years. Other than because Jones demanded it, because he doesn't think he can beat Aspinall.
Guys… remember this… ITS BECAUSE OF DANA WHITE & FRANCIS NGANNOU Dana wants jones to beat stipe in 1 round so he “wins against Ngannou” for baddest man on planet then ride off into the sunset If Dana books Tom v Jones then Jones gets starched in 2 minutes it means Ngannou wins It’s all stupid bloody politics
I think the main problem is Stipe TG. It’s so obvious that the fans would love to have seen Aspinall v Miocic at UFC 300 and the winner goes on to fight Bones Jones when he’s recovered from injury. The reality unfortunately is Stipe has a guaranteed pot of gold and a so called ‘legacy fight’ with Jon (even though Big Franny flattened him last time) so he ain’t gonna take a fight against Tom that he knows he loses. If he was confident he woulda said yes. I think Tom fights the winner of Blaydes v Almeida then onto Gane. Us fans need to keep on at Stipe and Jones to get Tom his more than deserved fight with Stipe and eventually Jones. The UFC are normally spot on but on this occasion they are well off what the fans want 🥊👍
@@Denchanterthe only issue i have with the stipe vs jones fight is that it’s for an undisputed title, I don’t mind them fighting but why fight for an undisputed belt when there are contenders willing to fight each other for it
Guy ducked Gus for 5 years after nearly getting beat, ducked Ngannou when he announced his heavyweight return a week after Francis left and even ducked the true 🐐 Chael Sonnen causing an entire event to be cancelled. This isn’t new for him
@BBrownyy 1. That's hasn't happened 2. That wouldn't change my mind Stylistically they both posed the same threat to Jon. Beating Tom would be like beating Gane again in terms of what it means for Jon's legacy. Tom has been submitted before.
@@colecole6447 this level of fanboy-ness will never fail to amaze me. So utterly blinded. Like a bunch of little girls screaming at One Direction. Maybe if you weren't so far up Jon's arse, you'd be able to step back enough to see the big picture 🤔
Jon Jones has become thr Tyson Fury of MMA. Would rather talk about his legacy and how his past victories means that he somehow doesnt need to orove himself against game challengers.
@TheFightingSheep even though he rece tky destroyed a fuy who beat half the current HW roster. Good one mate. Tom Aspunall has two losses to a finish. Gane has the same number of subs as him.
Jon losing to Tom would be the biggest passing of the torch in UFC history, it would give Tom that accolade and immense confidence to go on and win multiple fights in a row against the best guys in the division and maybe even lure Ngannou back to fight him (and Ngannou isn’t getting any younger so Tom winning that fight in 2-3 years is very possible), but Jon is a sandbagger so he won’t do the honourable thing for a fellow fighter, his ego is too big.
Shame on you True Geordie, heh, heh! Jon Jones has been fighting the Tom Aspinalls for a long time although a different division. I get it. A fight between Jon and Tom is an absolute thriller!!! However, Jon has earned the right to fight whoever he wants with his resume. Stipe has feathers in his hat and Jon wants him next. No ducking there. Don’t be surprised if Jon takes Tom afterwards.
Geordie your weight estimates are wack!! Aspinal isn't 60 pounds heavier than Jones LHW opponents. They all walk into the cage at 220-235. Also a LHW Jones was never heavier than a 245lbs Cain Velasquez. You make these ridiculous exaggerations.
Just a question: if Jones and Gane fought 10 times, how many times would Jones beat Gane that easily? I think that fight is an anomaly. Tom definitely has the better skills at Heavyweight currently
I see your point but I literally said Jones was out for 3 years he still came back and beat the number 1 ranked heavyweight. He has also beaten multiple world champions opponents that have moved up to heavyweight so your point is a bit invalid. Although I do agree he's ducking Aspinwall.
@@mrsmith7581 bro what does check have to do wit it. Yall are overlooking Stipe and so let me get this straight it's ok to over look the interim when your guy is champ but then u call out Jones when he's chasing the stipe fight. Stipe uwho has a win over Ngannou yeah a loss to but he fought him twice and dominated him for 5 rounds. Calm down you casual
@@luckyspurs bro the Whitaker who fought Romero top 5 middle weights of all time.#1 who never unified or got the chance to unify but just because he was promoted he was a papper champ
Jon ran through the best of the best and every fighter who was ever there with him inside that cage, will tell u he is on another level. The disrespect from you simply because he doesn't see what ur boy Tom does for his legacy is sad. Name a fighter in the UFC who has demolished men in his rankings, the way Jon did. I will wait.
TG being revisionist, but then again he is defending a fellow Brit. This is second time the current and interim title holders dont fight. It happened with GSP, Whittaker and Bisping. Also, the UFC has been about what makes the most sense financially and it has been that way for some time now. I dont get why people still think this sport is still about meritocracy, when it hasn't been in god knows how long. Also, the revisionism about Gane is hilarious, because I vividly remember people saying that Jones wouldn't be able to handle HW power, he wouldn't be bale to handle the size of Gane and his striker was far to crafty. Sure the wrestling was always in question, but no one thought Jones was going to get him out of there with the ease in which he did it. While Aspinall is amazing, I can't help but think, Aspinall is just another fighter people are bandwagon-ing on and hope he would beat Jones before he retires. Had it been Pavlovich in this same position, y'all would be saying that exact same thing.
Jones is one of the most overated champions of all time. Most of his wins came from beating guys who were far smaller than him and shouldn't really have been in the same weight class. Everytime he fought anyone who was a similar size to him he really struggled, and debatably even lost a few of those fights. The Reyes fight springs to mind, as does the first Gustafsson one. Now he's been gifted the heavy weight title, after being to scared to actually fight the champion (Ngannou) for it. Now he's doing the exact same thing with Aspinall as well. The guy is the interim champion, that means his has earnt the right to be next in line for a title shot... Lets be honest, he deserves it far more than Jones ever did.
@@pavasite4278 LOL NOT YET JONES BEAT LEGIT NUMBER 1 CONTENDER CYRIL , TOM SHOULD FIGHT CYRIL GANE HE SHOULD BE GETTING PPV POINTS ALSO SO WHAT MATTERS IF HE HAS TO WAIT TO UNIFY A YEAR . THIS SHOULD BE IT NOW WHO EVER HOLDS THE INTRIM BELT BY JONES RETURN GETS THE NEXT SHOT
@@lancethrust9488 Tom has more wins than Jon. What Tom has done in the heavyweight division is way more credible than what Jon jones has done. Also you’re acting like ciryl was the champ when Jon beat him, when ciryl lost to the real champ in ngannou.
You guys dont understand, it goes deeper than this. The UFC are using Jones as a proxy against Francis. They need to let Jones have an easy final fight before he retires, once this happens, the UFC can say "See Jones beat Stipe and destroyed Gane, he really is the best of all time and would have beaten Francis. Francis is not the real champ". If Jones loses then it will give Francis more power, make him look better than Jones and thus would prove further that the UFC made a mistake in not giving into Francis. Jones is a pawn.
Jon Jones knows that Aspinall will beat him. So if the Stipe fight was booked and planned before Aspinall became interim champion, then why would Jones risk getting his first ever defeat when he planned to retire after the Stipe fight? He is 36 and has nothing left to prove.
This is the first time ive ever seen this channel, and EVERYTHING he is saying is just speaking straight to my soul. Honest, objective, unapologetic and realistic. You’ve earned yourself a sub, sir. Thank you.
Jones is at the end of an illustrious career. He doesn’t want to fight the next generation. Honestly he doesn’t need to. Him and Stipe deserve to end their careers in their way. They’ve been earned it. Tom needs to fight and beat more than just one person. There is no shortcut to greatness. He needs to build his own legacy
He can have his legacy fight if he wants but that's not what the belt it's about. The belt is about the best fighting the best. If he wants to fight Stipe so badly fine, just relinquish the belt and stop holding the division.
@@Denchanter Lol no they don't. Sure they can impose their will, bu that doesn't change what the belt has historically represented in the UFC or the public's perception of this make believe title fight they want so badly.
UFC has turned into boxing anyways with the fighters not fighting eachother the more they rise up the ranks so you never get to see the best fight the best until its too late or someone has a disadvantage but takes the fight anyway instead of two healthy prime fighters going at it
Jon clearly is ducking but no one thinks he wouldnt beat Tom. It would be probably one of his toughest opponents. But Jon has nothing left to prove at this stage of career he is the greatest LIGHT heavy weight and the deadliest MMA fighter of all time.
@@zartic4lifeno one thinks he will beat him? Then why even fight anyone at all. Just retire now if you’re so unbeatable. And if it’s just for a payday just vacate the belt and stop holding the division up.
Strong agree that beating Pavlovich is more impressive win than anyone Jon got before his title shot! Spot on. Ducking Tom, after ducking Francis.. smh
Geordies offically a casually the stipe fight was already booked before aspinall even came into the picture so if jon already had plans to retire then thats what he should. He has nothing left to prove..bahhh👑🐐
Why does Stipe deserve that fight though? Tom should fight Stipe and then Jones, there’s no shame the GOAT retiring on a loss, just passing on the crown
@@BlackoutStarmanIT DOESN'T MATTER. At the time jones and stipe sign the contract Aspinall was nowhere to be seen thats his fault amd his fault only now he has to sit and wait patiently wait untill the the already signed fight has taken place for him to get his shot how rediculous is it that all you aspinall simps expect Jones to jus ignore THE ALREADY SIGN CONTRACT WITH STIPE to someone else and if jones decides to reture after then theres aspinalls opportunity for the belt. Simple as.
What Tom should do is while John is injured, call out Miocic. If he beats Miocic before JJ, then JJ has not other option but to fight Tom (unless of course Francis decides to return!)
They did the same thing when Whitaker was thr interim champion and Bisping got to fight GSP for the real belt. So thru have done this before, but it's still BS.
GSP at least didn't bother holding up the division after he won the title. Literally just a few weeks after choking out Bisping, he vacates and retires thus elevating Rob to undisputed champion.
Sorry but I have Jose Aldo, Anderson Silva, George St. Pierre MILES ahead of Jon Jones as a GOAT. even with epic losses, the numbers are not what we remember, the fight is what we remember, it's why Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar is the OG legendary UFC fight, or fights like Robbie Lawler vs Rory MacDonald are remembered for all time. Jones doesn't have any of that. its just his BS cherry picked fights. His legacy is going undefeated by hook or by crook, his legacy is a set of numbers predicated on that 0 never becoming a 1.
I don’t see how this is so hard to understand for people. Jon Jones has beaten beast after beast. After every one of his fights, his next opponent is always the ‘one’ to be able to beat him. Point being, even if he were to beat Aspinall, fans and media would immediately claim someone else is the next big thing. 6’7 Robelis Despaigne who just signed will be who they talk about next. Jones has done his time for the sport, beaten champ after champ. If he wants to finish his career against the Heavyweight GOAT, so be it! He’s earned that, he is not a new champion who needs to prove himself.
If he wants to finish his career with a fake "legacy fight" he needs to relinquish the belt. And a win over Tom Aspinall will age much better than a win over current Stipe.
@@azyy1248 So stripping the actual champ (Jon Jones) and giving Aspinall an even faker belt makes more sense lol? Aspinall then would not have beaten Ngannou or Jon to be champ. Aspinally also just lost to Blaydes recently. He would be the definition of a paper champ.
@@JJDon5150 You are either a bot or paid UFC shill. Nobody can be this dumb. If Aspinall's belt is fake so is Jon's. Jon won a vacant belt, never beat Ngannou and has one win at HW. Aspinall is the much more credentialed HW. Yes, giving the belt to Aspinall so the division can move on literally makes the most sense. If Jon refuses to fight the best he shouldn't be keeping the belt hostage. Aspinall lost to Blaydes by a knee injury 13 seconds into the fight. The fact you're bringing this up is like me saying Jon isn't undefeated cos of the Matt Hammil loss. This just shows you don't know what you're talking about. Jon is the definition of a paper champ. Francis Ngannou is the real champ.
I'm not a super MMA-enthusiast but I enjoy it, and even I have noticed that MMA is now moving at such a rapid pace...you're going to see a lot of people put in the lurch when "business" decisions sideline them for 2-4 years in their prime. I think we're going to see the end of 12-15 year long MMA careers outside of certain weight classes. The competition/skill just seems to be amping up rapidly. As you say - the young come in and take the crown from the old, etc. The past 5-10 years you've seen a lot of "oh he's coming back!" kind of announcements for ex-champs, etc. I think those days are going to disappear. If you haven't fought for 2-4 years, you shouldn't even be in the promotion. There's no time/space for that nonsense.
Yall crazy Jon submitted Gane easily and gane fought the same people Tom has + more. Tom a very good fighter and thinks he could beat him. Jon Jones can do what he wants and isn't scared of anyone bet that
I think what people forget about Jones is when the talk of him going to heavyweight he made an actual statement that he wouldn't fight DC because he knew he wouldn't beat him him there is a statement directly from him saying this on some interview, obviously not helwanis as he hates him, he did wait till DC was right out the picture.
I've agreed with a great deal of what True Geordie has said in the past regarding x, y and z, but I've also been critical of many things too. However this take is completely on point. Literally just get in the f****** octagon and go, right? But no, we're reduced to this rubbish, where the so called champion rather makes his fights over social media... Idk how JJ can be classed as the current champion with his recent record, let alone activity. The true champ takes fights whenever and always. JJ doesn't understand there's gonna be new guys in the scene to switch things up. Let go of the ego mannnnn.
I was the one who said in your comments a while ago when Jon was talking all that trash to Francis about leaving, and becoming heavy-duty champion in the ufc. That Jon duct Daniel and said in that interview "why would I want to give Daniel an advantage at heavyweight". The thing is Jon walked around at 240. Frank Mir and other heavyweights from Jackson-wink gym said John was as strong as any heavyweight. If the ufc was successful in blocking the Ali act from including MMA, by bribing politicians, or Dana being so close to Donald Trump. There would be a real governing body like the IBF and WBF to ensure that there are mandatorys with the champions. Dana can not hold the titles hostage, Jon gets stripped immediately, all of Ali's guys actually have to earn their climb up in the division by fighting alot of people. We would also get the cross promotion super fights we have always wanted.
THANK YOU also jon ran from lhw to protect his record fought a one handed glover texiera and ran after getting beat up from reyes hes nothing but a cherry picker NO GOAT HAS AN 0 ON THERE RECORD
Jones has fought just once in the 3 years and 11 months since the Reyes fight. By the time he's back from injury, Jones will probably have gone 4 and a half years since the Reyes fight, with only a couple of minutes against Gane in all that time.
3:01 yeah but if you look at recent performance and not resume JBJ has only had 2 fights in 4 years, where as Tom has 8 fights 6 performances of the night, bounced back from a knee injury to win the interim title. You could argue that JBJ won the title in his first heavyweight fight but the fact that he can challenge for the title in his 1st fight shows how political UFC is sometimes regardless as to where he stood in the previous weight devision.
Good point!! It's annoying how some people say Francis ducked Jones.. Jones took 3 years to put on weight... 3years!!!! When Francis was around.. nah.. for 30 pounds??
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Oh and you have the slowest hands I've ever seen hitting pads before
God you are the cockiest non fighter I've ever heard. Every time you open your mouth my brain cries out to shut it up lol
This video is perfect. What I've been saying all along. Couldn't have said it better myself.
@@daltonvanneman3639 you know he's not a fighter right? Completely irrelevant comment. Nice one 👍🏻
And that peck surgery will require HGH and steroids for medical reasons to heal it faster under the new PED rules thats all fine.
Just to show the difference:
Prochazka gets injured - vacates the belt to not hold the division
Jon Jones gets injured - keeps the belt as hostage and actively ducks the contender
And jamahal hill
You ppl are actually brain dead. I wonder who has more of a brand out of jiri, hill & jones hmmm 🤔
Oh that’s right you ppl must have just got here this the goat you’re talking about 😂
@@tookyohead Here we go - another JBJ simp who will find anything to excuse his idol :D
And UFC is OK with it because they know Francis is the baddest man on the planet and they want Jones to be that so bad but he isn’t. He won’t take any chances. I don’t care how good your resume is that’s a weak mentality to say you get to pick your fights that fit ur style just cause ur resume lmao
He ducked Francis for years saying he was gaining weight before facing him 😂😂😂
Jiří Procházka and Jamahal Hill, did the honourable thing when they were title holders, both gave up the belt when injured in order to win it back once fit again. Two perfect examples that Jones should be following.
Only way you get jones to give up the belt is by stripping him for PEDs
Honour and integrity don't exist in ole eye poke jones's lexicon.
Mma fans are brain dead, jiri & hill are nobodies, this is prize fighting they have ZERO brand compared to jon jones of course they vacated.
it’s obviously his last fight as his body is breaking down i don’t know why people like to avoid this. He wants to retain a legacy by fighting the easiest fight for the most reward possible. That’s the been the fight business forever tbh
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Respect, thumbs up for telling it like it is, right on Geordie 👍🏻
What an epic rant, flipping mint video this man.
JJ should not have disappeared for 2 years. He could have been so much further by now. Francis is laughing all the way to the bank.
Probably hid a PED ban for those 2 years
Not 2 years, 4 years now.
He’s been fighting at the top level for 15 years, how you crying he took 2 years out
@@kieranj1332because he got banned multiple times too and couldn’t fight because of charges out side of the cage as well. He didn’t need all that time to “bulk”. It was bs. He just ducked francis, plain and simple.
@@jak3brap10 you thinking bulking is just putting on weight bunch of clowns
I completely agree. Jon is simply avoiding a dominant contender who poses a threat to his legacy goals. It's a shame because I just wanna see these 2 monsters battle. People are saying one would destroy the other based on who they like more, objectively I think this is quite a close fight.
Jones is getting old man
I see no way JJ can win tbh
@@elingrome5853 delusional
Jones knows quite well,Tom destroys his legacy!💯
Yeah has nothing to do with UFC wanting and telling all you tards Jon vs Stipe is next months ago stop being slow go outside
TG spitting facts. Jones is definitely ducking him.
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Yh the guy who has literally fought everyone you can is all of a sudden avoiding people
@@kieranj1332that was over 6 years ago, which is irrelevant. We are in 2024, jones is the heavyweight champ and he should be facing the interim champ as that’s how it works. If you don’t want to do that, you should be stripped and you’re officially ducking
@@kieranj1332 that's exactly what's happening
@@pavasite4278 it’s not how it works, he planned to fight stipe so he’s gonna fight stipe, your crying over 1 guy about ducking him 😂 then the fat geordie saying he was ducking ngannou, when that stiff clown is calling out people half his size
The amount of Jon Jones simps out there coddling him is just pathetic. Jones duct Francis and now he's ducking Tom, because he's scared of keeping his precious little record.
jones duct francis? so the 205 pounder should just go up and fight a 267 francis? maybe he needed time to put on weight and strength to properly compete with the heavyweights? if francis was still within the ufc jones would have fought him. people just love to hate.
He’s ducking that much that Jones has started quacking when he speaks mate 😄
He has every right to retire whenever he sees fit he has nothing left to prove and the stipe fight was already booked before any of you simps even knew aspinall name
@@wallahimyg5309no doubt!
@@wallahimyg5309sorry, I can't hear you with John's nuts in your mouth.
Jones now officially identifies as a Mallard 🦆😂
Another RUclipsr who would ask for an autograph from Jon jones
He has literally turned into a duck. Get that loaf of bread out for him 😄
UFC fans can be so stupid
@@josecampos9717doesn’t change the fact he has publicly ducked him 😂😂
Jones is getting old he dosent want to fight a younger fighter and risk his amazing career
Jon Jones vs Tyson fury. Battle of the Ducks
he's fighting usyk, so the only person you can claim he's ducked is joshua?
@@ItsameAlexhe'll no he has fought usyk twice
@@therealhb1763And lost twice and gave embarrassing speech after throwing Usyks belts like a baby throwing his toys out the pram 😂
But this time Triad rules so it's some sort of compromise.
At least Tyson fought usyk
A lot of people overlook this but Jones himself said he avoided fighting DC at heavyweight because it was too much of a risk, as DC has knockout power at heavyweight.
Yea I always wished they'd done one at hw.
You mean just like what Geordie said in this video?
hw is by far the hardest weight class to have a good record in there's a reason nobody have good title defences at heavyweight cause everybody has ko power, idk why people are overlooking stipe and acting like gsp didn't get a title shot after time off in a weight class hadn't even fought in and people didn't say a thing people just like tom and don't like jones so are acting like this a new thing
@@edge3369 People are overlooking Stipe because it's a well known fact that father time gets to all fighters, no matter how great they are. Plus Stipe absorbed so much damage in the DC trilogy and Ngannou knockout. And bro you used the worst example to compare to. Plenty of people called out the GSP middleweight fight as BS because it got in the way of Whittaker who was the interim champ. Literally everyone was hating on Bisping for dodging the top contenders. That situation was identical to this Jones-Stipe-Aspinal situation. Yeah GSP returned and won but he returned to Bisping, not someone like Jones.
@@zee4125 i wouldn't say most people the general consensus was it was a ok fight because it was GSP and people were hyped for his return and that's what people think now
Thank you for acknowledging the truth. Good for the community to talk this over and recognize whats going on.
I feel like the UFC want to keep a hold of Jon wearing the belt so they can have the Stipe fight headline a big event for a title. But the UFC have literally invented a belt for these purposes and (regardless of divided opinion on it) it was good for business. The BMF worked for that fight at that time. So why not, ask Jon to either sign to fight Tom next OR he relinquishes/is stripped of the Undisputed belt and make the Stipe fight for a ‘GOAT’ belt, a special one similar to the BMF. Division can move on and be legitimate, they can have the legacy super fight, and have it be for a title in all the promos. Thoughts?
I'm thinking, and hoping, the ufc is being pushed into such a corner here that they have no choice but to do something, which could be getting that belt back from him. Sorry sorry, but we have no choice look at the chaos, and offering up a goat belt in return might be enough for him to not have a bitch fit for eternity. After all, that title is what he really wants.
To the Jon Jones fans who say “Jon has earned his right to a legacy fight, him and Stipe are legends”.
Genuine question, what do you not understand about him being the current World champion? As the current World champion, you SHOULD fight the next in line who has earned it, and Tom as the interim champion, has absolutely earned that right
There is no room for sentiment in sport at the HIGHEST level. You don’t just allow people an easier path because we respect what they did in years gone by. If he wants to defend his title then he fights Tom. If he wants his sentimental legacy fight, then he should release the title. How can people not get that? Remove your biases and look at this objectively
It’s like if Portugal get to the World Cup final in a couple of years and it’s CR7s last ever game, it would be like the ref allowing Ronaldo to run thru clear on goal and score because of what he’s done for the game.
You lose the essence of what sport is about when you start gifting people an easy ride, and that’s exactly what Jones is trying to get with fighting Stipe (a man who can barely walk).
Stick to football pal. Jones fi ished a guy who beat have the current HW roster. Tom got submitted outside the UFC and has the same number of sub wins as Gane. He has nothing to gain from fighting Tom.
An even clearer example would be if Usman took 3 years out after the Edwards KO and say Makachev was WW champ. But Makachev didn’t wanna fight an active number one contender like say Belal or Shavkat for example and was adamant on only fighting Usman. That would be ludicrous and everyone would call him a coward. But JJ gets preferential treatment by the UFC and his fans will take his word for gospel
Jon jones vs stipe was just about to happen before Tom was even a paper champ, jones wiped the floor with supposedly his worst match up with a guy that’s as quick as gane, jones has never ducked a fight in his life, let Tom defend his fake title or will he wait it out for a big pay day??? Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the latter
@@colecole6447ahahahahgagahahahaha one dimensional Gane would get smoked by Pavlovich and Aspinall. He had a close fight against Volkov, look what Aspinall did to him. Got dropped by Tuivasa and look what Pavlovich did to him. Aspinall would KO Jones stiff in the first. That’s a guarantee
@@colecole6447 You can’t tell me to stick to football, implying I know nothing about MMA, when you’ve just done the cardinal sin of doing MMA math which everyone knows is useless. Styles make fights, and Tom is a BAD match up for Jon.
The fact you mentioned Tom being submitted outside of the UFC shows you’re clutching at straws too.
It’s a sport. If you love Jon Jones and he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, that’s absolutely fine mate, but you know in your heart of hearts that the interim champion DESERVES to fight the current champion.
I’ve been following the UFC since 2009, I’ve witnessed Dana speak about the best fighting the best for years and years, if you like the politics maybe you should stick to boxing.
And this is why I love this channel. Telling it like it is. No holding back. Aren't we all sick of self appointed GOATs, cheery picking fights so they can spend their retirement dining out on their so called legacy. The UFC needs to step up and reassert who runs the business. In the likes of Jones and McGregor we've got the tail wagging the dog.
Tom Aspinall
Heavyweight résumé
8 wins 1 loss
Win over Jake Collier by KO/TKO round 1
Win over Alan Baudot by KO/TKO round 1
Win over Andrei Arlovski by submission round 2
Win over Serghei Spivac by KO/TKO round 1
Win over Alexander Volkov by Submission round 1
Loss to Curtis Blaydes by injury
Win over Marcin Tybura KO/TKO round 1
Win over Sergei Pavlovich KO/TKO round 1
Jon Jones
Heavyweight résumé
1 win 0 losses
Win over Ciryl Gane by submission round 1
Now guess which one is currently the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world...
Jon Jones maths, he doesn't know 90% of 9 people, so he is aware of 0.9 of these fighters....I'm guessing he knows arlovski , but can't remember his first name.
I also noticed that Tom has a professional combat record in MMA of 14-3. I think Jon is like 28-1. I'm surprised Jon would even respond to Tom.
@@JayLee-od8ob to be fair, 1 loss was because his leg buckled, 1 loss was a DQ, but he was beaten fair and square in his 3rd ever bamma match
Tom Aspinall is the real heavyweight champion of the World, the baddest man on the planet right now. NOT Jon Jones...
5:18 💯🔥 8:10 🎯 So true about the interview to fight DC at HW! It was after DC beat Stipe in 1st fight! Jon had said he would fight DC at HW before that, but after he KO'd Stipe in 1st fight, he said he would only fight DC at 205! I remember seeing that! 😂
Tom is straight up scary when you examine him he’s got such a diverse set of skills in every position and he’s fast, agile and got a high fight iq . He’s going to be one of the best ever, I truly believe that from what I’ve seen
Thx for speaking out! The only voice of reason in combat sports
Bro. These current American fighters/boxers think that they're the best in the world with out even fighting the best. They're so deluded and just loving to live up with the hype jobs (boxing/MMA both).
which fighters specifically? Not counting Jones
Jon the Narcissist cannot handle his eventual LOSING. The after affects will be hilarious and Jones REALLY acts out on a whole new level.
This is why I love this channel. You tell it like it is.
Even though there is barely a chance that this will happen, I’d laugh so hard if Stipe ended up beating Jones 😂😂
A true champ doesn't care about the business side of things. They go out there to be the best. JJ is making excuses for this exact reason.
😏👏 Appreciate you mate!
Jon knows he gets sparked in a minute
yeah the undefeated goat is gonna get sparked by big bad tom in a minute.....
exactly@@shinobi600
@@shinobi600 he literally moves at half the speed tom does, open your eyes
@@R.W-ju1tg jones fight iq is way higher, he's great at nullifying his opponents and he's got much better wrestling and submission. you think jones is gonna just gonna go in there and swing with him?
@@shinobi600
I doubt he has the strength and if so why is he scared
Fighters gatekeep the belt now that PPV points aren’t a secret and only the champion gets them so yeah simple but terrible circumstances.
Something I can't stand in UFC is when you're an upcoming fighter, you are getting as many fights in as possible to prove yourself and make a name. Then for some reason so many of these fighters that make it to champion think its fine to walk around flexing the title proving they got it, but without proof they can keep it. Then they just continue to say they'd take anyone in the division without actually making the fight.
Geordie you're on point mate i mean if Jones and Stipe want the legacy fight let them do it for a legacy belt vacate the Belt and let the division move on ... Jiri and Jamal both vacated their belts because they believe they can get it back and didnt want to hold up the division but Jones wont because he knows its harder for him to defend against Tom than Stipe.... period
Jon Jones is now the Tyson Fury of MMA.
Usyk?
Usyk joshua pulev david price wladimir klitschko remach exetra
Jones ducked Francis Ngannou for 3 years, now he is ducking Tom. We all can relate to that. I rest my case. No further comments.🎉
Mate a big thank you for all your videos ! New-Zealand
Jon struggles with big men, Toms no Machida
Dom Reyes took so much of Jon's aura away.
Jones has fought once in the 3 years and 11 months since, and seems to avoid people he thinks/knows he'd lose to now.
That ad read at the beginning goes pretty hard ngl “as above so below”🤣
People ride Jon Jones so hard it’s hilarious. Him ducking Aspinall exposed him badly.
Brian you been washing your T-shirt at 40 degrees?
He lost to Dominic Reyes clearly, A guy who’s never won since. That’s the moment that he realized Francis would fuck him up which is why he avoided him like the plague.
I also think he lost to Santos but for sure lost to Reyes.
@@cjboyer4355I know it was close also, but I never watched it multiple times. Reyes is the one that he lost without a shred of a doubt.
That fight was February 8th 2020 too; a few weeks short of 4 years. Jon's had 2 minutes 4 seconds against Gane since.
Reyes broke him. Broke any sense in Jon that he could take on all-comers.
@@Inzain1336record says he has a loss if that’s ur argument lol
Yep, I also think he lost the first Gustafsson fight. Many questionable decisions.
It's honestly pretty simple why the UFC is keen on the Jones v Stipe fight. They want to be known as the organisation where the consensus GOAT of the sport became the GOAT. There's powerful brand value in the UFC being able to "claim" Jones, if that makes sense. If Jones loses to Aspinall, all those bragging rights go away. No way Dana's risking that.
Having said that, aint nobody wanna see that Jones v Stipe fight.
I’ve felt this and had this opinion debated in my head. The first minute the fight was announced.
How on earth is Miocic getting a title shot off being beaten up by Ngannou 3 years ago and not winning a fight in 4 years.
Other than because Jones demanded it, because he doesn't think he can beat Aspinall.
The main question is then what is the whole point of interim belt then if contender is not qualified for title shot?
Guys… remember this…
ITS BECAUSE OF DANA WHITE & FRANCIS NGANNOU
Dana wants jones to beat stipe in 1 round so he “wins against Ngannou” for baddest man on planet then ride off into the sunset
If Dana books Tom v Jones then Jones gets starched in 2 minutes it means Ngannou wins
It’s all stupid bloody politics
This is literally the mma version of tyson fury 😂😂
Worse; this is Fury if he'd retired rather than eventually taking the Usyk fight.
Fury is fighting usyk, what are you talking about? Jon jones has had 1 fight in like 5 years
Jones can’t hold a candle to Fury 😂
That manscape sales pitch 😂 straight from the Tate school of blag 😂
I think the main problem is Stipe TG. It’s so obvious that the fans would love to have seen Aspinall v Miocic at UFC 300 and the winner goes on to fight Bones Jones when he’s recovered from injury. The reality unfortunately is Stipe has a guaranteed pot of gold and a so called ‘legacy fight’ with Jon (even though Big Franny flattened him last time) so he ain’t gonna take a fight against Tom that he knows he loses. If he was confident he woulda said yes. I think Tom fights the winner of Blaydes v Almeida then onto Gane. Us fans need to keep on at Stipe and Jones to get Tom his more than deserved fight with Stipe and eventually Jones. The UFC are normally spot on but on this occasion they are well off what the fans want 🥊👍
The thing is, I like Tom. He needs to let them end their careers the way they wish. Move on for Christ’s sake!
Big Franny and stipe are 1-1 chief after stipe 'ragdolled' him the first time.
Miocic is washed. Francis changed his life. Aspinall is bigger, stronger, and has a BJJ Black Belt.
@@TheReelRevolution of course he’s washed. It’s the end of both their careers. Not sure why that is tough to understand..
@@Denchanterthe only issue i have with the stipe vs jones fight is that it’s for an undisputed title, I don’t mind them fighting but why fight for an undisputed belt when there are contenders willing to fight each other for it
Guy ducked Gus for 5 years after nearly getting beat, ducked Ngannou when he announced his heavyweight return a week after Francis left and even ducked the true 🐐 Chael Sonnen causing an entire event to be cancelled. This isn’t new for him
Undefeated. Ciryl Gane is better than Tom
@@colecole6447 and when Aspinall sparks Gane out while waiting for these 2 old men to fight, what will you say then?
@BBrownyy
1. That's hasn't happened
2. That wouldn't change my mind
Stylistically they both posed the same threat to Jon. Beating Tom would be like beating Gane again in terms of what it means for Jon's legacy. Tom has been submitted before.
@@colecole6447 Reyes
@@colecole6447 this level of fanboy-ness will never fail to amaze me. So utterly blinded. Like a bunch of little girls screaming at One Direction. Maybe if you weren't so far up Jon's arse, you'd be able to step back enough to see the big picture 🤔
Jon Jones has become thr Tyson Fury of MMA. Would rather talk about his legacy and how his past victories means that he somehow doesnt need to orove himself against game challengers.
Fury can still box, he's just looking for easy money. Jon is a fat old man, too slow and frail.
Good comparison
@TheFightingSheep even though he rece tky destroyed a fuy who beat half the current HW roster. Good one mate. Tom Aspunall has two losses to a finish. Gane has the same number of subs as him.
@@colecole6447 Gane took a dive. Jon was fat and slow af.
@@TheFightingSheepdidn’t that fat old man just make absolute light work of someone that everyone was claiming was the next best thing.
Real talk. I was a JJ fan up until he ducked Ngannou. Now he's ducking Aspinall. It's embarrassing tbh.
Jonny boy is on the run!!! It would be so disappointing if he doesn't fight Aspinal or Ngannuo when it's all said and done.
Jon losing to Tom would be the biggest passing of the torch in UFC history, it would give Tom that accolade and immense confidence to go on and win multiple fights in a row against the best guys in the division and maybe even lure Ngannou back to fight him (and Ngannou isn’t getting any younger so Tom winning that fight in 2-3 years is very possible), but Jon is a sandbagger so he won’t do the honourable thing for a fellow fighter, his ego is too big.
Has Jon been spending time with Fury?..just a hunch ✌️
Shame on you True Geordie, heh, heh! Jon Jones has been fighting the Tom Aspinalls for a long time although a different division. I get it. A fight between Jon and Tom is an absolute thriller!!! However, Jon has earned the right to fight whoever he wants with his resume. Stipe has feathers in his hat and Jon wants him next. No ducking there. Don’t be surprised if Jon takes Tom afterwards.
Love your RANT big fella your right though 🥊🥊🥊
Geordie your weight estimates are wack!! Aspinal isn't 60 pounds heavier than Jones LHW opponents. They all walk into the cage at 220-235. Also a LHW Jones was never heavier than a 245lbs Cain Velasquez. You make these ridiculous exaggerations.
Just a question: if Jones and Gane fought 10 times, how many times would Jones beat Gane that easily? I think that fight is an anomaly. Tom definitely has the better skills at Heavyweight currently
Gane was too nervous. That said, his grappling isn‘t great.
10 times out of 10 jones would win. Gane doesnt have the wrestling skills to keep up.
@@muki2590I mean if that fight stayed standing up, it may have been different
@@pavasite4278
It would not remain standup.
Jones will always takedown Gane.
I see your point but I literally said Jones was out for 3 years he still came back and beat the number 1 ranked heavyweight. He has also beaten multiple world champions opponents that have moved up to heavyweight so your point is a bit invalid. Although I do agree he's ducking Aspinwall.
Also didn't Michael Bisping become champ and then wait for a super fight with GSP bet you didn't have a problem with that when that happened
Thought Luke Thomas made a brilliant point about how much bigger Whittaker would have been, if he'd fought GSP.
Yeah with gsp, who he knew was better than him but fought him anyway.....he didn't refuse and call out chuck liddell did he?
@@mrsmith7581 bro what does check have to do wit it. Yall are overlooking Stipe and so let me get this straight it's ok to over look the interim when your guy is champ but then u call out Jones when he's chasing the stipe fight. Stipe uwho has a win over Ngannou yeah a loss to but he fought him twice and dominated him for 5 rounds. Calm down you casual
@@luckyspurs bro the Whitaker who fought Romero top 5 middle weights of all time.#1 who never unified or got the chance to unify but just because he was promoted he was a papper champ
Jon ran through the best of the best and every fighter who was ever there with him inside that cage, will tell u he is on another level. The disrespect from you simply because he doesn't see what ur boy Tom does for his legacy is sad. Name a fighter in the UFC who has demolished men in his rankings, the way Jon did. I will wait.
TG being revisionist, but then again he is defending a fellow Brit. This is second time the current and interim title holders dont fight. It happened with GSP, Whittaker and Bisping. Also, the UFC has been about what makes the most sense financially and it has been that way for some time now. I dont get why people still think this sport is still about meritocracy, when it hasn't been in god knows how long. Also, the revisionism about Gane is hilarious, because I vividly remember people saying that Jones wouldn't be able to handle HW power, he wouldn't be bale to handle the size of Gane and his striker was far to crafty. Sure the wrestling was always in question, but no one thought Jones was going to get him out of there with the ease in which he did it. While Aspinall is amazing, I can't help but think, Aspinall is just another fighter people are bandwagon-ing on and hope he would beat Jones before he retires. Had it been Pavlovich in this same position, y'all would be saying that exact same thing.
Jones is one of the most overated champions of all time. Most of his wins came from beating guys who were far smaller than him and shouldn't really have been in the same weight class. Everytime he fought anyone who was a similar size to him he really struggled, and debatably even lost a few of those fights. The Reyes fight springs to mind, as does the first Gustafsson one.
Now he's been gifted the heavy weight title, after being to scared to actually fight the champion (Ngannou) for it. Now he's doing the exact same thing with Aspinall as well. The guy is the interim champion, that means his has earnt the right to be next in line for a title shot... Lets be honest, he deserves it far more than Jones ever did.
IF IT WERNT FOR JONS INJURY , TOM WOULDNT EVEN BE INTRIM CHAMP HE NEEDS TO PIPE DOWN
Tom is the real champ
And if big Fancis didn't leave he would still be champion!
@@pavasite4278 LOL NOT YET JONES BEAT LEGIT NUMBER 1 CONTENDER CYRIL , TOM SHOULD FIGHT CYRIL GANE HE SHOULD BE GETTING PPV POINTS ALSO SO WHAT MATTERS IF HE HAS TO WAIT TO UNIFY A YEAR . THIS SHOULD BE IT NOW WHO EVER HOLDS THE INTRIM BELT BY JONES RETURN GETS THE NEXT SHOT
@@lancethrust9488 Tom has more wins than Jon. What Tom has done in the heavyweight division is way more credible than what Jon jones has done. Also you’re acting like ciryl was the champ when Jon beat him, when ciryl lost to the real champ in ngannou.
@@pavasite4278 DOESNT MATTER FRANCIS LEFT SO HE AINT NO REAL CHAMP NOW PLUS JON STEPPED UP AND BEAT NUMBER 1 CONTENDER FOR VACANT BELT
You guys dont understand, it goes deeper than this. The UFC are using Jones as a proxy against Francis. They need to let Jones have an easy final fight before he retires, once this happens, the UFC can say "See Jones beat Stipe and destroyed Gane, he really is the best of all time and would have beaten Francis. Francis is not the real champ". If Jones loses then it will give Francis more power, make him look better than Jones and thus would prove further that the UFC made a mistake in not giving into Francis. Jones is a pawn.
This is spot on.
Last time STIPE MIOCIC won a fight MICHAEL CHANDLER AND ALEX PEIRA HADNT FOUGHT IN THE UFC YET !!!!!!
Jon Jones knows that Aspinall will beat him. So if the Stipe fight was booked and planned before Aspinall became interim champion, then why would Jones risk getting his first ever defeat when he planned to retire after the Stipe fight? He is 36 and has nothing left to prove.
This is the first time ive ever seen this channel, and EVERYTHING he is saying is just speaking straight to my soul. Honest, objective, unapologetic and realistic. You’ve earned yourself a sub, sir. Thank you.
Jones is at the end of an illustrious career. He doesn’t want to fight the next generation. Honestly he doesn’t need to. Him and Stipe deserve to end their careers in their way. They’ve been earned it.
Tom needs to fight and beat more than just one person. There is no shortcut to greatness. He needs to build his own legacy
He can have his legacy fight if he wants but that's not what the belt it's about. The belt is about the best fighting the best. If he wants to fight Stipe so badly fine, just relinquish the belt and stop holding the division.
@@enmanuel1950 the UFC, Stipe and Jon want this. They say what the belt’s about.
@@Denchanter Lol no they don't. Sure they can impose their will, bu that doesn't change what the belt has historically represented in the UFC or the public's perception of this make believe title fight they want so badly.
The jewels are chisled. I die every time
Big Tom is a fucking legend
Lol a legend? A 14-3 record is legend status now?
In his own mind, for sure. Maybe for his simps also.
@@abel78750Would put Jones to sleep tho
I’m referring to his personality not his record
UFC has turned into boxing anyways with the fighters not fighting eachother the more they rise up the ranks so you never get to see the best fight the best until its too late or someone has a disadvantage but takes the fight anyway instead of two healthy prime fighters going at it
Jon clearly is ducking but no one thinks he wouldnt beat Tom. It would be probably one of his toughest opponents. But Jon has nothing left to prove at this stage of career he is the greatest LIGHT heavy weight and the deadliest MMA fighter of all time.
He nearly lost to Reyes and Santos, who technically and physically are inferior to Tom, to think Tom couldn’t beat him would be stupid.
@@jakeonyx4775UFC math doesn't work. No one said Tom couldn't beat Jon he just most likely wouldn't.
Aspinall runs through Jones.
@jakeedwards1668 he DID lose to Reyes, and arguably to Santos (I actually gave the 1 legged Santos the nod).
@@zartic4lifeno one thinks he will beat him? Then why even fight anyone at all. Just retire now if you’re so unbeatable. And if it’s just for a payday just vacate the belt and stop holding the division up.
TrueGeordie's adverts are the only ones on RUclips I actually don't mind watching😂
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Strong agree that beating Pavlovich is more impressive win than anyone Jon got before his title shot! Spot on. Ducking Tom, after ducking Francis.. smh
Geordies offically a casually the stipe fight was already booked before aspinall even came into the picture so if jon already had plans to retire then thats what he should. He has nothing left to prove..bahhh👑🐐
Its doesn't matter. Why the fuck is he champion then if he has nothing to prove?
Then vacate the title. Aspinall is a way more credible win than a washed Stipe who can barely walk.
Why does Stipe deserve that fight though? Tom should fight Stipe and then Jones, there’s no shame the GOAT retiring on a loss, just passing on the crown
@@BlackoutStarmanIT DOESN'T MATTER. At the time jones and stipe sign the contract Aspinall was nowhere to be seen thats his fault amd his fault only now he has to sit and wait patiently wait untill the the already signed fight has taken place for him to get his shot how rediculous is it that all you aspinall simps expect Jones to jus ignore THE ALREADY SIGN CONTRACT WITH STIPE to someone else and if jones decides to reture after then theres aspinalls opportunity for the belt. Simple as.
@@jakeonyx4775 the reason for that is very simple. The fight was already signed before aspinall came into the picture
No way jon Jones resume is being questioned now 🤦♂️
TG is a maroon
What Tom should do is while John is injured, call out Miocic. If he beats Miocic before JJ, then JJ has not other option but to fight Tom (unless of course Francis decides to return!)
Francis isn't' coming back. Why would he fight for pennies when he's making more in one fight then all of these guys combined.
Can’t be havin this like🤣 fucking love it
I always said this, Tom is way to fast and good at wresting for Jon to even consider, no one beats Tom at this point he’s the best in the world
They did the same thing when Whitaker was thr interim champion and Bisping got to fight GSP for the real belt. So thru have done this before, but it's still BS.
GSP at least didn't bother holding up the division after he won the title. Literally just a few weeks after choking out Bisping, he vacates and retires thus elevating Rob to undisputed champion.
Sorry but I have Jose Aldo, Anderson Silva, George St. Pierre MILES ahead of Jon Jones as a GOAT. even with epic losses, the numbers are not what we remember, the fight is what we remember, it's why Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar is the OG legendary UFC fight, or fights like Robbie Lawler vs Rory MacDonald are remembered for all time. Jones doesn't have any of that. its just his BS cherry picked fights. His legacy is going undefeated by hook or by crook, his legacy is a set of numbers predicated on that 0 never becoming a 1.
I don’t see how this is so hard to understand for people. Jon Jones has beaten beast after beast. After every one of his fights, his next opponent is always the ‘one’ to be able to beat him. Point being, even if he were to beat Aspinall, fans and media would immediately claim someone else is the next big thing. 6’7 Robelis Despaigne who just signed will be who they talk about next. Jones has done his time for the sport, beaten champ after champ. If he wants to finish his career against the Heavyweight GOAT, so be it! He’s earned that, he is not a new champion who needs to prove himself.
If he wants to finish his career with a fake "legacy fight" he needs to relinquish the belt. And a win over Tom Aspinall will age much better than a win over current Stipe.
@@azyy1248 So stripping the actual champ (Jon Jones) and giving Aspinall an even faker belt makes more sense lol? Aspinall then would not have beaten Ngannou or Jon to be champ. Aspinally also just lost to Blaydes recently. He would be the definition of a paper champ.
@@JJDon5150 You are either a bot or paid UFC shill. Nobody can be this dumb.
If Aspinall's belt is fake so is Jon's. Jon won a vacant belt, never beat Ngannou and has one win at HW. Aspinall is the much more credentialed HW.
Yes, giving the belt to Aspinall so the division can move on literally makes the most sense. If Jon refuses to fight the best he shouldn't be keeping the belt hostage.
Aspinall lost to Blaydes by a knee injury 13 seconds into the fight. The fact you're bringing this up is like me saying Jon isn't undefeated cos of the Matt Hammil loss. This just shows you don't know what you're talking about.
Jon is the definition of a paper champ. Francis Ngannou is the real champ.
Its Dana Teabaggin Jones , just testing out the manscaped kit , great vid baldy balls 🤣🤣
I agree! Small correction, its not the first time. Mir and Barao have defended interims
I'm not a super MMA-enthusiast but I enjoy it, and even I have noticed that MMA is now moving at such a rapid pace...you're going to see a lot of people put in the lurch when "business" decisions sideline them for 2-4 years in their prime. I think we're going to see the end of 12-15 year long MMA careers outside of certain weight classes. The competition/skill just seems to be amping up rapidly. As you say - the young come in and take the crown from the old, etc.
The past 5-10 years you've seen a lot of "oh he's coming back!" kind of announcements for ex-champs, etc. I think those days are going to disappear. If you haven't fought for 2-4 years, you shouldn't even be in the promotion. There's no time/space for that nonsense.
Yall crazy Jon submitted Gane easily and gane fought the same people Tom has + more. Tom a very good fighter and thinks he could beat him. Jon Jones can do what he wants and isn't scared of anyone bet that
Old Man, hard times Jones. Great video Gordie. Big love, kindest regards, Richard U.K
I don't blame Jones for ducking Tom😂
Spot on!!!! JJ had 1 heavyweight fight, & now he’s supposed to be the GOAT, yeah right, he can be the goat of light heavyweight only..🥊
One of your best videos, absolute quality! when you get it right its beautiful!
I think what people forget about Jones is when the talk of him going to heavyweight he made an actual statement that he wouldn't fight DC because he knew he wouldn't beat him him there is a statement directly from him saying this on some interview, obviously not helwanis as he hates him, he did wait till DC was right out the picture.
I've agreed with a great deal of what True Geordie has said in the past regarding x, y and z, but I've also been critical of many things too. However this take is completely on point. Literally just get in the f****** octagon and go, right? But no, we're reduced to this rubbish, where the so called champion rather makes his fights over social media... Idk how JJ can be classed as the current champion with his recent record, let alone activity.
The true champ takes fights whenever and always. JJ doesn't understand there's gonna be new guys in the scene to switch things up. Let go of the ego mannnnn.
I was the one who said in your comments a while ago when Jon was talking all that trash to Francis about leaving, and becoming heavy-duty champion in the ufc. That Jon duct Daniel and said in that interview "why would I want to give Daniel an advantage at heavyweight". The thing is Jon walked around at 240. Frank Mir and other heavyweights from
Jackson-wink gym said John was as strong as any heavyweight. If the ufc was successful in blocking the Ali act from including MMA, by bribing politicians, or Dana being so close to Donald Trump. There would be a real governing body like the IBF and WBF to ensure that there are mandatorys with the champions. Dana can not hold the titles hostage, Jon gets stripped immediately, all of Ali's guys actually have to earn their climb up in the division by fighting alot of people. We would also get the cross promotion super fights we have always wanted.
THANK YOU also jon ran from lhw to protect his record fought a one handed glover texiera and ran after getting beat up from reyes hes nothing but a cherry picker NO GOAT HAS AN 0 ON THERE RECORD
Spot on here I'm a Jon fan but this has really annoyed me now it's a joke the politics and ducking going on right now.
Englishman king of New York 🏴
Facts especially the ngannou point
Jon is clearly bullshittin but i blame the UFC. This will slowly turn into boxing over time
Jones has fought just once in the 3 years and 11 months since the Reyes fight.
By the time he's back from injury, Jones will probably have gone 4 and a half years since the Reyes fight, with only a couple of minutes against Gane in all that time.
And lets not forget Jones was extremely lucky the judges gifted him that decision against Reyes. Even still, that fake win has aged so badly.
If he wants Stipe but nothing else....why even have the belt? Strip him and give ot to whoever wins Tom vs whoever wants it
3:01 yeah but if you look at recent performance and not resume JBJ has only had 2 fights in 4 years, where as Tom has 8 fights 6 performances of the night, bounced back from a knee injury to win the interim title. You could argue that JBJ won the title in his first heavyweight fight but the fact that he can challenge for the title in his 1st fight shows how political UFC is sometimes regardless as to where he stood in the previous weight devision.
Good point!! It's annoying how some people say Francis ducked Jones.. Jones took 3 years to put on weight... 3years!!!! When Francis was around.. nah.. for 30 pounds??