You don’t sell coins. You CANT sell coins, nor can you mint coins BY LAW. You make and sell gold BARS. “Coins” have a monetary denomination on them and can ONLY be minted BY GOVERNMENTS. Use the correct terminology. It makes me not trust what you say.
@@chadnickels6227 he is making coins, you can make coins….you can’t make fiat currency. The value of his coins are based on the materials it’s made out of. Since I assume you’re referring to counterfeiting laws, It doesn’t represent a value or backing associate with the federal government. Ppl make challenge coins, props, and tokens all of which can be legally manufactured by a private entity.
It’s like ppl aren’t aware that there different polishing medium you can load into tumblers….and you probably wouldn’t be using the same stuff they use on car parts or bullet casings
His video still proved it removes some gold. He showed it removes a miniscule amount. So the people who said polishing removes gold were right. Nobody said how much it removed. It's an indisputable fact that polishing gold removes material. He did show that it wasn't removing enough to cause issues with the value though which is the important part for a customer. It still lost gold though.
Manufacturers also usually collect that gold after a large amount of time and use it for other things, so it's not lost or wasted even in mass production
I am sure that there is no loss on THEIR part, and every single flake is recovered. People were commenting on the loss for the buyer, since they polish the pieces after "certifying" the weight
@@Beregorn88 you can buy gold leaf in a jar from a gift shop and probably get 10x the amount lost from polishing. This would be like buying a loaf of bread and then complaining that a crumb fell off
I can relate with this way too much. If a person who hired me to do something for him try to coach me on how to do it, then he can do it himself. It's just not worth the stress from that.
Could work the same thing when you know so much about a fiction already because you alr learned it for years, then some random fandom overexagerate a character that you know damn well will die without plot armor.
@@LongTran-em6hcunless they're a contractor, then you have to remind them that theyre putting the bathtub in backwards 😂 Literally just happened 2 hours ago
Social media has definitely made a new generation of smart-asses. I’ve been one myself and have been embarrassingly humbled for it. Great way of teaching these kids.
Probably not gold...alloy or painted things like cars do loss wheigt...my bmx racing frame lost two gramms by polishing...alloys for cars do it too...and polishing paint is technically a very fine grinding or sanding....and that means it took material off...alloy parts out of the cnc mashine they get in the tumbler to polish and edging they loss also material(all the edge imperfections for example)
@@lisovskirikki9871 not many people have the means to do this effectively on their own, so its part of a service add to cost also would you prefer a lump of dull gold or a prestine, polished, bar of gold?
On a positive side note this video alone is quite interesting. Im a gold newb so whenever i see all these gold video's im kind of curious to see how you guy's recover the small loses from each stage so its kind of cool seeing the BTS of your machines, i love seeing the gold cleanup videos aswell
@@AhmadZaydan195 doing something badly for 40 years imo is worse than not doing it at all for 40 years, because if you haven't done it at all then you'll have a easier time learning how to do it correctly than someone who spent 40 years feeding into a bad habit
@@estebanod If you're dedicated enough and have proper guidence, mistakes can give you experience and knowldege. Sure, most of the time it gives you failure, but through failure you get to learn to be better if you're dedicated enough and Only if you have proper guidence. Then you'll have a good experience and knowledge in that field. Unlike, say, people who only watch tutorial or an explanation video without practicing it irl. Sure, they'll get the basic knowledge, but they won't be able to actually learn or even get any kind of experience from it. And all they can do is to tell people the basic stuff. And they tend to boast their knowledge as if they have enough experience in that field, silly isn't it?
Who will win: somebody who has several years of experience with a particular field and has mastered their craft or a random commenter who says theyre wrong
While you lose a little bit of gold in the polishing process, its so little that it will not register on the scale. With this said, the notion that companies profit from that "gold loss" is dismantled. as a thought experiment: At the rates it happens a company using that machine would probably get enough gold micro flakes to recover 1 - 2 grams of gold by polishing nothing but gold 24/7 for approximately 20 years so nope, it's not a conspiracy by greedy companies. That doesn't even cover the cost of running the machine or its maintenance.
As long as you don't over polish, you should lose less than 100th of a gram. It also depends on the size of the piece. If it was 100 times the surface area, maybe it would show up on the scale.
I love how people just become professionals at what ever they want when they see a video of something they think isnt the best way to do something/isnt true
Gold prospector here, the gold is floating Because it is hydrophobic not because it is light it is surface tension that’s doing it. You can break the surface tension by adding jet dry.
I just started studying gold panning, like in rivers, and oily water would make gold float. A little suds-free soap in the water would break the surface tension and let it sink.
Remember, tumbling is not a subtractive or additive process. It simply beats and pummles a rough surface until it becomes smooth. The only material that may be lost is burrs from sharp edges and the tumbling media itself.
"it's not subtractive" "the only material that may be lost" So it is indeed subtractive just not very. Subtractive is literally just describing if anything comes off of what you are working with during the process and he clearly shows that.
What would be more useful is to weigh the flakes in the bottom and divide by the number of gold pieces tumbled. Rolling a ball of tin foil (tin foil challenge) until it is shiny is similar to what’s going on here. Of course it’s also “subtractive” by your definition definition because your hands get covered in gray tin foil particles but it’s 99.99% just pushing down the sharp parts and flattening them until it shines.
@williammadisondavis The amount of material removed is miniscule. The majority of the sludge in the bottom, or "on your hands" is actually degraded tumbling media.
Most polishing does two things, it scratches off a tiny portion of metarial, but can also hammer it in in very tiny spots. After a lot of such "dents" it becomes flat and shiny. A bit like smashing a hammer on a rough piece of metal, after a few minutes it's gonna start getting flat and shiny.
As a normal person without any knowledge on polishing metals i am a professional gold manufacturer with a phd in being stupid Some people on the internet really think they know everything
Gold is ductile, most the material that would be removed on harder metals via polish is just deformed and pressed smoother, like the aluminum foil ball eventually looking solid. Aluminum is also a ductile metal, just less so than Gold
I honestly don't fucking get people on the Internet thinking their better than everybody else and shitting on people who is clearly more knowledgeable in such fields of work.
I love how you called out all the dummies who automatically know better than the person in the specific trade, you! I work in dental, and the number of people who self-diagnose is RIDICULOUS!!!
Gold is kinda soft and malleable. The beads are very dull implements; they are not sharp and cannot gouge a chunk out of the gold. They are working like tiny hammers.
@@pank524 Merriam-Webster: "a usually flat piece of metal issued by governmental authority as money." Oxford: "a flat, typically round piece of metal with an official stamp, used as money." I was also curious but now I know. A coin doesn't have to be round. Sounds professional to me.
@@fukhungyudarman3958 obviously know you still don't know because in order for it to be a coin it has to have value other than the metal content the United States makes coins one penny one cent one nickel 5 cents one dime $0.10 and no one ever said a coin has to be around coins coming all shapes and sizes if you send a bar that has no denominational value to any grading service they will not grade it because it is not a coin just like they will not grade hit so no he's not sounding professional
@@fukhungyudarman3958 I'm a man of my word buy one of his bars send to NGC to get graded and I guarantee you they will not do it because it is not a coin and they only grade coin and if you can get it graded I will pay for the bar 100%
@@fukhungyudarman3958 That's like calling a silver buffalo a coin no it does not have a denomination it is a round there's a difference between a round and a coin just like there's a difference between a coin and a bar or a ingot maybe you should learn what you're talking about before you try to correct somebody
As a professional small engine mechanic and landscaper I can confirm polishing gold removes soooo much gold that 1 troy ounce turns into .5 troy ounce!
Obviously lol, but yeah, theyre small enough to not even outweigh surface tension. Which yes, surface tension is more force than most would expect, but gold is very dense. So to float on water at all mwans its like literally nothing. The ammount of gold there, you could pan even for that much in a few minutes.
Just ignore comment experts. I make knives and sell em for ~$150 a pop and people don’t realize the amount of time and money that goes into them. $10 in steel, $20 in wood, $15-$30 in all other materials such as epoxy, brass pins, and acid, $25 in belts (although I can make 3 knives a belt before they go dull) an entire day to heat treat, another entire day to wait for glue, and people will still cry about the price. Can’t forget the classics “I can buy a knife at Walmart!” comments 😂 those people never have been, and never will be customers, so their opinions do not matter at all to me.
I dunno how this came up as a short for me, must be because i love the kind of energy required to call out commenters as being professional gold manufacturers. Well done.
I don't think they were saying he didn't know gold was being lost, they were claiming he knew it was being lost and was hiding it from the people he sold to
Also not to mention you can recover this gold. I would be more worried about gold loss in the cutting or sanding gold outside of an enclosed container.
They arent "so light they float on water" the size of a gold flake doesn't effect its density which usually determines whether something sinks or floats (and is why there are also gold flakes the same size in that shot that had sunk). What is actually happening is that the gold flakes are so light that they dont break the surface tension of the water. If you pushed those gold flakes beneath the surface tension of the water (like with a needle) then they would sink to the bottom.
“I have preconceived notions that I think are true despite having zero experience and evidence, so therefore, I must know what I’m talking about while you, a professional at your craft know nothing. I am very smart and totally get bitches.” That’s what those people who try to correct you sound like to me.
Literally, a lot of smart asses on tiktok do these things. The nerve and guts to question people who things professionally or with extensive knowledge is an ungodly level of ego.
Density of gold is way more than water. The flakes float because they're very light weight which means they don't exert enough force to overcome the water's surface tension
I recall a bunch of idiots argued that removing rust from a fricking dumbell was going to remove HALF of its weight. I'm not even joking. Those idiots really thought half of the weight would get lost from the rust on the surface.
Would love to see what the third digit place does. But as you say, likely no difference. If you find a microbalance on day, would be fun to see a video! Really curious...
Those gold flakes are essentially the exact same thing as the edible glitter you get in certain cocktails. Those cocktails usually aren’t even the most expensive on the menu, so it’s absolutely not a shocker that polishing doesn’t hurt value one bit. Like… you can buy edible gold for less than some types of fancy table salt ffs, it’s not valuable!
I believe on a smaller scale it’s not a big deal, but I’ve heard that large scale manufacturers of precious medals (gold, platinum, rhodium, iridium, etc.) have stuff like scrubbers for your shoes, that you’ll put your feet over at the end of shift, and in a year they’ll collect 70-80 grand worth of metal just from that minuscule amount that would get on the bottom of your shoes after a days work manufacturing those metals and the products made from them. If you’re a small scale operation, and you’re losing 10 or 100 bucks a year in small losses like that you don’t really care, but if your a large scale manufacturer and you can get 80 grand a year out of a 5,000$ machine it’s probably worth it (no idea how much those scrubbers cost but you get my point)
I was having the same thoughts about gold loss during polishing but I practically assumed that the loss was so little it would be negligible. Turns out I was correct, and good on you for making more content out of people not knowing your trade
So is it possible to get a coin from you guys unpolished? I know it’s not much but I’d rather have more gold unpolished than less gold polished if that makes sense
Yeah it's microgram scale which means it rounds up to the neareat .01 of a gram. In the first weigh it toggled down which means it could of wieghed up to 37.524 because if it weighed 37.525 it would round up to 37.53. Since the weight didn't change that means the difference is anywhere from .001 to .004 grams.
In my country, the problem is extra money is charged for 'gold wastage' to compensate for gold lost during the process of making something. Rates can go up to 30% of the gold used. I always end up arguing with the dealer. It's a big scam here. I'm gonna show them this video
Thanks for the thorough explanation. I'm so glad I never listen to amateur complainers. In your first video, it looks like you go through a lot of work to mint your bars and coins; what premium, above spot value, do you collect on the particular, coins and bars that you produce?
he is selling each bar for about a 200 dollar profit on the gold price alone, if he were to lose 1 gram every 100 bars he would lose 0.0002% of the gold or about 0.003% of his profits, assuming 1 gram of pure gold is about 63 dollars (made 20,000 dollars lost 63 and sold over 252,914$ worth of bars hypothetically .)
These gold experts also forget that just because you have physical gold, if the gold is too small to be measured its probably worth less than one cent (aka Nothing) so polishing and loosing so little gold that not even that scale can’t detect it means that the coin doesn’t loose any value
Purchase our gold coins at kimminhstudios.com!
You don’t sell coins. You CANT sell coins, nor can you mint coins BY LAW. You make and sell gold BARS. “Coins” have a monetary denomination on them and can ONLY be minted BY GOVERNMENTS. Use the correct terminology. It makes me not trust what you say.
💀💀💀
Those aren't coins, no thanks 😊
@@chadnickels6227 he is making coins, you can make coins….you can’t make fiat currency. The value of his coins are based on the materials it’s made out of. Since I assume you’re referring to counterfeiting laws, It doesn’t represent a value or backing associate with the federal government.
Ppl make challenge coins, props, and tokens all of which can be legally manufactured by a private entity.
It’s like ppl aren’t aware that there different polishing medium you can load into tumblers….and you probably wouldn’t be using the same stuff they use on car parts or bullet casings
Way to humble the people who made the comments 🙏
One would hope
Bruh it still lost some gold flakes, It can add up to a lot
humble? he’s the one with all the gold lol
@@carlsonraywithers3368 you don't think he doesn't collect what's left?
@@56kglifter Yeah that makes sense, If that was my argument lmao, I just said gold dust can add up to a lot
I was arguing with other commenters but that was a dumb waste of my time. Thanks for this video.
Ty for defending me
Back in the olden days we would call that getting trolled.
Fr💀 those MF who never touched grass and watch shorts all days thinks that they have 900% more knowledge than the world combined
@@Rayzlight frrr
His video still proved it removes some gold. He showed it removes a miniscule amount. So the people who said polishing removes gold were right. Nobody said how much it removed. It's an indisputable fact that polishing gold removes material.
He did show that it wasn't removing enough to cause issues with the value though which is the important part for a customer. It still lost gold though.
As a computer science student, I can also confirm that I am a professional gold manufacturer
as a Games Development student, I know every possible way Elon Musk's rocket will malfunction.
As a grocery stocker I can tell you that we plan to land on the sun in 2026
As a Biology Education major, I tell you that gold is just rich pyrite.
I mean, two clicks and some company spawns some gold
As a random person on the internet, I also confirm that I'm a professional gold manufacturer as well as knowing how to read minds.
Manufacturers also usually collect that gold after a large amount of time and use it for other things, so it's not lost or wasted even in mass production
They also deal with some pretty massive volumes, competitively. Which makes the cost of the effort worthwhile
I am sure that there is no loss on THEIR part, and every single flake is recovered. People were commenting on the loss for the buyer, since they polish the pieces after "certifying" the weight
@@Beregorn88 they weigh after polishing as well, and have methods to add gold to a polished piece without ruining the polish
@@piranhaplantX it really does. After cleaning, they can make a couple extra bars if I remember correctly
@@Beregorn88 you can buy gold leaf in a jar from a gift shop and probably get 10x the amount lost from polishing.
This would be like buying a loaf of bread and then complaining that a crumb fell off
As a Polish person im automatically polish expert and this is 100% true
Yr shoes would be always polish
I love when random strangers argue with me on how to do my job, unless its another individual in my field, I usually just ignore them.
I can relate with this way too much.
If a person who hired me to do something for him try to coach me on how to do it, then he can do it himself.
It's just not worth the stress from that.
Could work the same thing when you know so much about a fiction already because you alr learned it for years, then some random fandom overexagerate a character that you know damn well will die without plot armor.
@@LongTran-em6hcunless they're a contractor, then you have to remind them that theyre putting the bathtub in backwards 😂
Literally just happened 2 hours ago
thats the way to go🤝
Anyone can say the’re in your field. This is the internet
I can understand people arguing sanding or filing, but polishing?
I feel you 😂
@@itsjamesly I don’t.
@@user-up7nb6id1fI feel you
@@diffusewizard7622 i feel him inside me
@@wvoxuboom sound effect rock eyebrow
Love how armchair experts always think they know better. Glad you showed them
"Armchair experts" xD
Dannin cruger effect i think its called
He showed them that it removes gold? So he proved them right 😂
@@BabyJesus66 no he said they were saying it removes a lot of gold, not just some gold. And he proved them wrong in that regard.
@@BabyJesus66 anyone touching anything is gonna remove very small amount of weight. Doesn't prove anything.
I love how he said "everyone in the comments turns out to be a professional gold manufacturer" shit is hilarious 😭
I can just feel the passive aggressiveness when he said that lmfao
@@rezeee5259 right 😭
Love how some people spend 16 hours panning a riverbed for that much waste gold 😂
@@virtualenvironmentfellowsh6671Nice troll
@@virtualenvironmentfellowsh6671who actually gives a f*ck?
Social media has definitely made a new generation of smart-asses. I’ve been one myself and have been embarrassingly humbled for it. Great way of teaching these kids.
Gotta love the experts in the comment sections of TikTok and RUclips 😂
Yeah 😂😂
His video still proved it removes some gold. He showed it removes a miniscule amount. So the people who said polishing removes gold were right.
@@BabyJesus66 ugh
@@BabyJesus66 but it's pretty minimal, so...
@@BabyJesus66 what color is your gold mill?
Not all the imperfections get removed, some of them get flattened into the material
gold is super soft, so some of it definitely gets smushed around on the surface and not just taken off
@snakewithapen5489 Platinum does that too. I don't think platinum loses any material when it's polished.
another expert shows up
@@klazzera I'm agreeing with the guy in the video
Probably not gold...alloy or painted things like cars do loss wheigt...my bmx racing frame lost two gramms by polishing...alloys for cars do it too...and polishing paint is technically a very fine grinding or sanding....and that means it took material off...alloy parts out of the cnc mashine they get in the tumbler to polish and edging they loss also material(all the edge imperfections for example)
The polish probably adds more value than the gold lost. Never underestimate the caveman brain's desire for shiny objects.
How it can be MORE value lol
@@lisovskirikki9871 would u buy a ugly diamond on a ring or shiny diamond on a ring
@@Kelly-cd3gb it's not fucking diamond on ring, its fucking gold investition
@@lisovskirikki9871 not many people have the means to do this effectively on their own, so its part of a service add to cost
also would you prefer a lump of dull gold or a prestine, polished, bar of gold?
@@mr.beaning9792 i prefer stamped coin
I like how one dude was just asking a genuine question.
Yeah there were two of them who were just curious about the weight afterwards.
The gold flakes are not any less dense; they "float" because of surface tension. If they end up under the water they sink.
On a positive side note this video alone is quite interesting. Im a gold newb so whenever i see all these gold video's im kind of curious to see how you guy's recover the small loses from each stage so its kind of cool seeing the BTS of your machines, i love seeing the gold cleanup videos aswell
When someone wants to talk, they suddenly have 20 more years of experience than you.
Experience doesn't inherently gives you knowledge, you could have 40 years of experience and have spent those 40 years doing something badly
@@estebanod
Well, at least it's better than 40 years of not doing anything at all and calling themself experts
@@AhmadZaydan195 doing something badly for 40 years imo is worse than not doing it at all for 40 years, because if you haven't done it at all then you'll have a easier time learning how to do it correctly than someone who spent 40 years feeding into a bad habit
@@estebanod
If you're dedicated enough and have proper guidence, mistakes can give you experience and knowldege. Sure, most of the time it gives you failure, but through failure you get to learn to be better if you're dedicated enough and Only if you have proper guidence. Then you'll have a good experience and knowledge in that field.
Unlike, say, people who only watch tutorial or an explanation video without practicing it irl. Sure, they'll get the basic knowledge, but they won't be able to actually learn or even get any kind of experience from it. And all they can do is to tell people the basic stuff.
And they tend to boast their knowledge as if they have enough experience in that field, silly isn't it?
@@estebanodno one does something badly for 40 years lmao. Do you think people don't improve over time?
As a jobless commenter I'm also a professional gold manufacturer
Who will win:
somebody who has several years of experience with a particular field and has mastered their craft
or
a random commenter who says theyre wrong
i think egg
It doesn't stop the trolls and the turds from trying!!
While you lose a little bit of gold in the polishing process, its so little that it will not register on the scale. With this said, the notion that companies profit from that "gold loss" is dismantled. as a thought experiment: At the rates it happens a company using that machine would probably get enough gold micro flakes to recover 1 - 2 grams of gold by polishing nothing but gold 24/7 for approximately 20 years so nope, it's not a conspiracy by greedy companies. That doesn't even cover the cost of running the machine or its maintenance.
As long as you don't over polish, you should lose less than 100th of a gram.
It also depends on the size of the piece. If it was 100 times the surface area, maybe it would show up on the scale.
When it comes to RUclips shorts, everyone is now an expert on everything!
Especially ones that cant source their claims
@@cpK054L "Dude, just trust me. I read some stuff online"
@@Wan_DerFulllol
I love how people just become professionals at what ever they want when they see a video of something they think isnt the best way to do something/isnt true
Gold prospector here, the gold is floating Because it is hydrophobic not because it is light it is surface tension that’s doing it. You can break the surface tension by adding jet dry.
The fact that it removes so little that one of the heaviest materials can’t overcome surface tension is crazy
I just started studying gold panning, like in rivers, and oily water would make gold float. A little suds-free soap in the water would break the surface tension and let it sink.
Remember, tumbling is not a subtractive or additive process. It simply beats and pummles a rough surface until it becomes smooth. The only material that may be lost is burrs from sharp edges and the tumbling media itself.
"it's not subtractive" "the only material that may be lost"
So it is indeed subtractive just not very. Subtractive is literally just describing if anything comes off of what you are working with during the process and he clearly shows that.
What would be more useful is to weigh the flakes in the bottom and divide by the number of gold pieces tumbled.
Rolling a ball of tin foil (tin foil challenge) until it is shiny is similar to what’s going on here. Of course it’s also “subtractive” by your definition definition because your hands get covered in gray tin foil particles but it’s 99.99% just pushing down the sharp parts and flattening them until it shines.
@williammadisondavis The amount of material removed is miniscule. The majority of the sludge in the bottom, or "on your hands" is actually degraded tumbling media.
@@JesusChrist42000 as in it’s not *conceptually* a subtractive process, you semantic fart. go outside.
Most polishing does two things, it scratches off a tiny portion of metarial, but can also hammer it in in very tiny spots. After a lot of such "dents" it becomes flat and shiny. A bit like smashing a hammer on a rough piece of metal, after a few minutes it's gonna start getting flat and shiny.
Its caller "burnishing"
@@Jordan-rb28 That fundamentally is a part of polishing when using such machines.
Commenters really tryna find every reason to make this guy feel like he’s losing money, y’all just mad he’s able to touch gold everyday🗿🗿🗿
I love it when people assume you're losing a third of your gold as if they know what they're talking about.
Ikr it is kinda absurd, because you would imagine the gold bar wont even look like it had changed size.
As a normal person without any knowledge on polishing metals i am a professional gold manufacturer with a phd in being stupid
Some people on the internet really think they know everything
Gold is ductile, most the material that would be removed on harder metals via polish is just deformed and pressed smoother, like the aluminum foil ball eventually looking solid. Aluminum is also a ductile metal, just less so than Gold
Even if you did lose some gold, it looks like you can retrieve the gold with minimal effort and recycle it into more bars.
Comments are full of doctors, lawyers and scientists.
I honestly don't fucking get people on the Internet thinking their better than everybody else and shitting on people who is clearly more knowledgeable in such fields of work.
I love how you called out all the dummies who automatically know better than the person in the specific trade, you! I work in dental, and the number of people who self-diagnose is RIDICULOUS!!!
I love how people who don't work these jobs think they know all about it
I knew it took some away, but that’s neat to know how little it is! Some effective beads in there!
Gold is kinda soft and malleable. The beads are very dull implements; they are not sharp and cannot gouge a chunk out of the gold. They are working like tiny hammers.
@@soylentgreenb interesting! I was wondering that as well when he showed the beads
That guy with the sheeeit meme as pfp 💀
This type of content is why you’re one of my favorite creators, keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! This comment made my day :)
I love the proof-like quality of your coins
The amount of “experts” that view your videos is insane
I love when someone makes a video about their profession then suddenly everyone in the comments also has that profession it's very entertaining
Seen how he keeps calling it a coin he doesn't sound very professional himself
@@pank524 Merriam-Webster: "a usually flat piece of metal issued by governmental authority as money."
Oxford: "a flat, typically round piece of metal with an official stamp, used as money."
I was also curious but now I know. A coin doesn't have to be round. Sounds professional to me.
@@fukhungyudarman3958 obviously know you still don't know because in order for it to be a coin it has to have value other than the metal content the United States makes coins one penny one cent one nickel 5 cents one dime $0.10 and no one ever said a coin has to be around coins coming all shapes and sizes if you send a bar that has no denominational value to any grading service they will not grade it because it is not a coin just like they will not grade hit so no he's not sounding professional
@@fukhungyudarman3958 I'm a man of my word buy one of his bars send to NGC to get graded and I guarantee you they will not do it because it is not a coin and they only grade coin and if you can get it graded I will pay for the bar 100%
@@fukhungyudarman3958 That's like calling a silver buffalo a coin no it does not have a denomination it is a round there's a difference between a round and a coin just like there's a difference between a coin and a bar or a ingot maybe you should learn what you're talking about before you try to correct somebody
It’s usually the people who aren’t experts who comment the most and go to battle with their ideals without any evidence.
As a professional small engine mechanic and landscaper I can confirm polishing gold removes soooo much gold that 1 troy ounce turns into .5 troy ounce!
Glad I found this, I'm super fixated on gold lately and I was looking to buy some
I feel like this is simple.
Yes you lose gold, but it’s not even noticeable and the weight doesn’t change that much anyways.
I swear i hate when the internet thinks they know better than a professional
They are professionals at everything Lol
the flakes dont float bc theyre light, they float bc of surface tension. theyre still denser than water
Yes! My ocd ass was about to comment this lmao
Obviously lol, but yeah, theyre small enough to not even outweigh surface tension. Which yes, surface tension is more force than most would expect, but gold is very dense. So to float on water at all mwans its like literally nothing. The ammount of gold there, you could pan even for that much in a few minutes.
@@wage6681 what ocd has to do with it??
bruh they're light, so light that float from surface tension
try with 1 gram , and it won't float
Are we found infinite gold glitch
I feel like every time this channel pops up in my feed they're either talking about gold loss or they're responding to haters
They don't understand your polishing the gold not filing it down💀
Just ignore comment experts. I make knives and sell em for ~$150 a pop and people don’t realize the amount of time and money that goes into them. $10 in steel, $20 in wood, $15-$30 in all other materials such as epoxy, brass pins, and acid, $25 in belts (although I can make 3 knives a belt before they go dull) an entire day to heat treat, another entire day to wait for glue, and people will still cry about the price. Can’t forget the classics “I can buy a knife at Walmart!” comments 😂 those people never have been, and never will be customers, so their opinions do not matter at all to me.
Facts!
Don't forget the labour that goes into them!
Stfu🤡. Like who asked? Y'all getting but hurt
Sell it as glitter.
I just love watching this whole process. So therapeutic
I dunno how this came up as a short for me, must be because i love the kind of energy required to call out commenters as being professional gold manufacturers. Well done.
Now figure out how much gold you lose if you swallow it
Well if it's 37.52 grams you lose 37.52 grams in total
Bro discovered an infinite gold tweak 💀
Generations of knowledge < RUclips comment
I don't think they were saying he didn't know gold was being lost, they were claiming he knew it was being lost and was hiding it from the people he sold to
@@hamzerpanzer There's always one 🤣
Also not to mention you can recover this gold. I would be more worried about gold loss in the cutting or sanding gold outside of an enclosed container.
They arent "so light they float on water" the size of a gold flake doesn't effect its density which usually determines whether something sinks or floats (and is why there are also gold flakes the same size in that shot that had sunk). What is actually happening is that the gold flakes are so light that they dont break the surface tension of the water. If you pushed those gold flakes beneath the surface tension of the water (like with a needle) then they would sink to the bottom.
“I have preconceived notions that I think are true despite having zero experience and evidence, so therefore, I must know what I’m talking about while you, a professional at your craft know nothing. I am very smart and totally get bitches.”
That’s what those people who try to correct you sound like to me.
Literally, a lot of smart asses on tiktok do these things. The nerve and guts to question people who things professionally or with extensive knowledge is an ungodly level of ego.
Well actually 🤓 the gold flakes are floating because of surface tension
Slight correction, buoyancy is based on density not weight, however you are correct that polishing rarely removes any noticable weight.
Density of gold is way more than water. The flakes float because they're very light weight which means they don't exert enough force to overcome the water's surface tension
@@jarvisb.6013 i didnt know that thanks for correcting me
I recall a bunch of idiots argued that removing rust from a fricking dumbell was going to remove HALF of its weight. I'm not even joking. Those idiots really thought half of the weight would get lost from the rust on the surface.
at first i was like "that definitely removes gold" and then i heard 15 minutes and i was like yeah that makes sense
I heard that if you keep the flakes long enough you can have enough flakes to make it worth your while.
It would take thousands and thousands of pieces just to get $10 worth of gold
I'm here to disagree with everyone and say polishing adds gold because I said so
Ultimate gold glitch, so i second this. Polishing *adds* because how else does it make it look nice and shiny?
Would love to see what the third digit place does. But as you say, likely no difference. If you find a microbalance on day, would be fun to see a video! Really curious...
Tbh it’s even rare for some jewelry stores to have a 2 digit place scale
Fun fact, the flakes float on water not from buoyancy (its more dense than water so its weight is always greater than buoyancy) but surface tension
Those gold flakes are essentially the exact same thing as the edible glitter you get in certain cocktails. Those cocktails usually aren’t even the most expensive on the menu, so it’s absolutely not a shocker that polishing doesn’t hurt value one bit.
Like… you can buy edible gold for less than some types of fancy table salt ffs, it’s not valuable!
A lot of people didn’t pass physics or chemistry 😂
🤓
You don’t need to take those classes to understand this
I failed both and still didn't think that
Everyone In The Comments Turned Out To Be A Professional Gold Manufacturer 😂
G o l d .
TL;DR: Yes, some amount of gold gets lost while polishing, but the amount lost is so small that it's not noticeable enough to affect the weight
I believe on a smaller scale it’s not a big deal, but I’ve heard that large scale manufacturers of precious medals (gold, platinum, rhodium, iridium, etc.) have stuff like scrubbers for your shoes, that you’ll put your feet over at the end of shift, and in a year they’ll collect 70-80 grand worth of metal just from that minuscule amount that would get on the bottom of your shoes after a days work manufacturing those metals and the products made from them.
If you’re a small scale operation, and you’re losing 10 or 100 bucks a year in small losses like that you don’t really care, but if your a large scale manufacturer and you can get 80 grand a year out of a 5,000$ machine it’s probably worth it (no idea how much those scrubbers cost but you get my point)
These flakes dont swim on the water because they are that light. Instead they swim because of the tension on the surface of the water
aint no way one of em had the 'sheeeeeit' as their pfp
gotta love how influencers reply to their commenters by the most respectful and disrespectful "fuck you"s ever
imagine calling some d list youtuber with 50k view shorts an influencer lol
@@hydroxide5507are you mentally unwell
Retaining minty barter talk is CRITICAL behind the scenes.
I was having the same thoughts about gold loss during polishing but I practically assumed that the loss was so little it would be negligible. Turns out I was correct, and good on you for making more content out of people not knowing your trade
I hate keyboard warriors
So is it possible to get a coin from you guys unpolished? I know it’s not much but I’d rather have more gold unpolished than less gold polished if that makes sense
You’d be losing micrograms in the polishing. Which won’t make a difference at all unless you buy a few kilos
@@BorisTheShashlikKing yea true that’s a lot of weight too
@@inncc makes sense. I figured I’d just be happier knowing I have a microgram more lol
@@michaelslifecycle lmao the greed (I respect the hustle tho)
We don’t sell unpolished coins!
Weird
All the armchair experts seem to have disappeared in the comments for some reason 😂
Nope
ruclips.net/video/ClSrYKhrL8Q/видео.html
and now all the nut huggers are here trying to defend the guy
Those few flakes from one coin is minuscule. But if you make your living doing that work, then salvaging that dust will be a concern.
Sometimes stupid people only know judging and think they know better than the actual experts that do their jobs
Yes, you are right about the minimal loss but even if loss is microscopic, even 1 atom, it's unfair to buyer.
Mf, polish your gold yourself then, stop moaning
Yeah it's microgram scale which means it rounds up to the neareat .01 of a gram. In the first weigh it toggled down which means it could of wieghed up to 37.524 because if it weighed 37.525 it would round up to 37.53. Since the weight didn't change that means the difference is anywhere from .001 to .004 grams.
I respect this man not for calling out the comment section, but for working with gold all day and not snagging a bunch of it
As an average Terraria enjoyer, I can confidently say that I am a professional gold manifacturer.
I dont know why but my dragon smooth brian goes "OHHHH SHINY" when i see gold
In my country, the problem is extra money is charged for 'gold wastage' to compensate for gold lost during the process of making something. Rates can go up to 30% of the gold used. I always end up arguing with the dealer. It's a big scam here.
I'm gonna show them this video
It's really funny how everyone on the internet is an expert at everything.
I feel your pain. 😂😂
Love his sarcasm, and he still explains it.
Basically the amount of gold that’s “shaved off” is atoms worth
Steel beads don't scrape off much gold. Instead they tend to flatten tiny gold "hills" on a surface. That's why there's little loss.
Just remember, everyone on the internet is a fuckin professional at ur job
Thanks for the thorough explanation. I'm so glad I never listen to amateur complainers.
In your first video, it looks like you go through a lot of work to mint your bars and coins; what premium, above spot value, do you collect on the particular, coins and bars that you produce?
he is selling each bar for about a 200 dollar profit on the gold price alone, if he were to lose 1 gram every 100 bars he would lose 0.0002% of the gold or about 0.003% of his profits, assuming 1 gram of pure gold is about 63 dollars (made 20,000 dollars lost 63 and sold over 252,914$ worth of bars hypothetically .)
These gold experts also forget that just because you have physical gold, if the gold is too small to be measured its probably worth less than one cent (aka Nothing) so polishing and loosing so little gold that not even that scale can’t detect it means that the coin doesn’t loose any value
as a nanotechnology guy, those are astronomic amounts of gold...