Dadao: Chinese War Sword (實用大刀術 Full Demo)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 окт 2024

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  • @chainsawchanselour5452
    @chainsawchanselour5452 Год назад +9

    This is probably one of the most underrated swords of all time

  • @DinsRune
    @DinsRune 3 года назад +14

    I'd never heard the story of the 29th Army, that's so awesome!
    Chinese swords and sword-styles aren't very well-known here in the US, it was so cool to find a video like this! Thanks so much!

  • @allenng2471
    @allenng2471 5 месяцев назад +3

    Jack, thanks for a great introduction to the Dadao about 12 years ago. I had just bought a couple dadaos and wanted to learn, but there wasn't much instructions around. I came across your video and started practicing. I'm still practicing and learn new movements. You were instrumental to help me get started.

  • @Lindsay-g6u
    @Lindsay-g6u 10 месяцев назад +5

    Ive heard stories of soldiers armed with nothing but the dadao war sword against the Japanese invasion .men fighting against rifle's with bayonet's fixed & machine guns takes gut's❗
    Can you please make more videos about the Dadao & its history would be appreciated.thank you ☯️🇬🇧

  • @richardhaw9757
    @richardhaw9757 11 лет назад +19

    very interesting. in my lineage, we were taught to be really compact and to bridge the distance so we chop in really close range. i guess philosophies vary depending on schools. nice video,too. i hope that i can buy you manual,too.

  • @squirrelonmapletree
    @squirrelonmapletree 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is a very cool piece of history considering the context.

  • @jackchn
    @jackchn  12 лет назад +7

    Thank you Michael. I am indeed keeping an extra distance because the blade's tip is still very pointy and dangerous. I hope my future videos will be useful to you! =)

  • @curiusrex
    @curiusrex 9 лет назад +17

    Guys, my respect, a well made presentation of the Dadao techniques. Thank you. Thumbs up!

  • @KenjiHouston
    @KenjiHouston 5 лет назад +1

    I like how you show move and counter move of each weapon.

  • @ThibaultsAbandonedChild
    @ThibaultsAbandonedChild 2 года назад +1

    I'm trying to figure out how the footwork works in tandem with the sword techniques. A lot of the steps you take look off, though I think it may be camera angle. If you could please do a guide on foot movements, as well as the demo with the techniques.

  • @piotrmalewski8178
    @piotrmalewski8178 Месяц назад

    I wonder why did they go for swords instead of just bayonets? Shortage of available firearms, or just tradition?

  • @mercuryorsomething
    @mercuryorsomething Год назад

    the footwork is insane

  • @jackchn
    @jackchn  12 лет назад +5

    It's from "Zipang".

  • @williamkennedy1550
    @williamkennedy1550 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent!!!

  • @fareastpride94
    @fareastpride94 7 лет назад +2

    Jack Chen is it alright if you can elaborate on the leg raises a little bit more and maybe show some of them in sparring. From someone who is into western martial arts we try to keep both legs on the ground most of the time. But i noticed when you raise the one leg you can get more reach with the weapon without having to step forward. Also, I noticed if one leg is up you can quickly step forward or back depending on the situation. and if you have your guard up it will keep your opponent back and if they charge you they will run into your blade.

    • @Rasgonras
      @Rasgonras 5 лет назад +1

      Travis Bussey
      8 months ago
      I wondered about this for years, why do almost all historical martial arts from all over the world have what to modern martial arts seem so impractical. I think I found a possible answer. I found that training in unkempt ground makes the skills learned from a lot of the fancier lead switching and foot raising seen in many martial arts suddenly very necessary.

    • @ambulocetusnatans
      @ambulocetusnatans 3 года назад

      Sometimes the single leg is for long range, but sometimes it's for close range. It depends on what move it is. This guy is very knowledgeable about such things. ruclips.net/video/OmKVZ2RYfWY/видео.html

  • @VicariousReality7
    @VicariousReality7 11 лет назад +3

    Nooo, their factory burned down
    Maybe you can find some of their old ones at Kultofathena
    Actually now that i think, condor tools makes a sword like this, in el salvador of all places

  • @Huy-G-Le
    @Huy-G-Le Год назад

    The original second ROC, the first version of the KMT use these weapons along with another straight one handed sword as officers sidearms along with their pistol. But by the time of the 1930, only Ward-Lord, bandit and Communist forces would continued to uses these, while the KMT had mostly no longer use them.

  • @aeortiz2004
    @aeortiz2004 11 лет назад

    This is great Mister Chen...quite informative and excellent manual presentation!

  • @amaniandrus260
    @amaniandrus260 5 лет назад

    i was wondering how these were used they seem like a shorter version of an older weapon

  • @shenzhenfactory2713
    @shenzhenfactory2713 5 месяцев назад

    This is a set of knife techniques specially used against bayonets, and the Japanese used their heads to verify the power of this knife method.

  • @fangyann3
    @fangyann3 3 месяца назад

    背景音樂:Zipang 35 Battle 'Mirai'

  • @KellyWhelanEnns
    @KellyWhelanEnns 12 лет назад

    I learned two forms actually. Have been looking for the second one no luck. I learned my DaDoa form from my teacher Eric Tuttle a lineage holder of both Chen taijiquan and Xingyi Liu He Quan.

  • @KellyWhelanEnns
    @KellyWhelanEnns 12 лет назад +1

    Just bought the manual!!! Excellent work!

  • @Andyhaucqog1
    @Andyhaucqog1 4 года назад

    Looks good but I don't see the point of crossing your feet. Seems easy to trip

  • @thatoneguypatrickbateman
    @thatoneguypatrickbateman 4 года назад +2

    Tiandi from for honor

  • @Shindai
    @Shindai Год назад

    This music is extremely epic, could someone please identify it for me?

  • @WolfClant
    @WolfClant 8 лет назад +11

    truth be told, some of the footwork seems... impractical.
    legs cross too much and go up at 13 for seemingly no reason.
    if anyone cares t explain, please do.

    • @ChishioAme
      @ChishioAme 8 лет назад +5

      +WolfClant Lifting the legs in 13 serves two purposes (though I'm guessing at the second one): the first, when raising the lead leg, it voids a strike at the legs, so if an opponent were to attempt to strike your forward leg, you could raise it over the strike while staying in distance, which is fairly important as the dadao is a relatively short sword (doubly so if fighting against someone armed with a polearm). The second, when raising the rear leg, I believe is to shift the body's balance forward and allow for a more powerful strike, but again, I'm guessing on this one.

    • @NoOffensePies
      @NoOffensePies 8 лет назад +1

      +ChishioAme while drawing a circle to block, you do need to avoid being hit in the foot. the second raise of back leg is useless.

    • @622PSS
      @622PSS 8 лет назад

      Surely all the fancy footwork ( of traditional Chinese martial arts) is impractical & useless, in both bare hand and melee weapon fights! Never waste time practicing it unless it is for Wushu competitions, which actually concerns choreography but not real martial arts.

    • @7dayspking
      @7dayspking 7 лет назад

      +ChisoshioAme ...if one were to illogically strike to the legs, it's likely to be to the thigh...lifting the leg wouldn't avoid the strike at all, worse still strikes move *much* faster than legs and can be redirected...this only seems to serve to put you off balance and leave you open. See Roland Warzecha's "tactics 2: fighting in real times", he explains a nearly identical problem with footwork (committing too early.)....
      If the person has a polearm it's even worse....they can reach the leg (if for whatever reason they were striking it.) far easier than you can remove it...not to mention it'd be more difficult to avoid a logical strike to the body or head with your leg up. A powerful strike is done with a step...the hip rotation is important...using momentum to lift your leg into the air against the strike is actually going to make it less powerful, not more.

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 7 лет назад +7

      Footwork is 90% of the martial art. Fancy footwork may it seem, but everything has a purpose. Legs are crossed to keep facing the opponent while retreating, front leg is lifted to avoid ant cuts to the leg, back leg is lifted for further reach, etc.

  • @HaibaneRakka571
    @HaibaneRakka571 12 лет назад +1

    What is the song in this? It sounds familiar to me

  • @justinprather4760
    @justinprather4760 5 лет назад

    Do you have any knowledge regard use of zhanmadao?

  • @shenzhenfactory2713
    @shenzhenfactory2713 5 месяцев назад

    The practicability of this knife method has been verified on the Japanese head.

  • @dodyantony
    @dodyantony 2 года назад

    what is the title of the background music?

  • @i_love_crpg
    @i_love_crpg 6 лет назад +1

    I want to see actual scenario or sparring with this techniques. A technique must always be pressure tested for it to work. And you also cannot assume ALL chinese soldiers of the time carrying dadaos used this technique exactly the way they’re presented. So itd be nice to see that

    • @unmessable12
      @unmessable12 6 лет назад +9

      It's more likely that absolutely no one used these techniques as you see here. The application form is an "ideal" version of the technique, helps develop certain skills. In an actual fight the movements would be faster, smaller, and less obvious. The presentation also helps understand the mechanics and angles certain things should be delivered.

    • @h1zchan
      @h1zchan 6 лет назад +4

      It didn't work and never will. This weapon was given to cannon fodders who were not expected to survive after the first contact. The chinese military had servere shortage of munitions and arms during the Japanese invasion. This thing was basically developped with a better-than-nothing mindset. It was said that on average 3-5 of these guys were needed to defeat one Japanese rifleman in melee combat, and that's assuming they can get there before getting shot. To properly deal with a bayonet you need a sword that is long and well balanced. This sword is way too short as a two handed weapon, and way too front heavy for single handed use. The katana or its chinese equivalent would be better suited for the job. But longer swords would require proper heat treatment which not every village blacksmith is capable of. It would also require purer steel which they didn't have access to in large quantities at the time.

    • @unmessable12
      @unmessable12 6 лет назад +3

      You're correct that these swords were given to cannon fodder on the battlefield, but that doesn't mean that said cannon fodder were ineffective. Despite their high casualty rate the dadao squads seemed to be deadly enough that the japanese soldiers actually feared encountering them. That said, the applications as seen here were probably never used. The dadao, while seen in frontline combat, was often more popular as a militia/law enforcement weapon. The forms demonstrated here were likely adapted from different weapon forms hastily without accounting for the new weapon's mechanics. Also, while the Japanese katana (and its Chinese equivalent) is a more elegant and well balanced weapon, it requires more gentle and fine handling, which caused a lot of failures in war. The dadao, while crude and poorly balanced, tended to last longer in part due to its simple construction.

    • @h1zchan
      @h1zchan 6 лет назад +1

      That once again comes down to heat treatment of the steel at which point even the katana, popularly considered the apex of East asian swordsmithing, falls short. The traditional katana and most likely its chinese equivalent too are only properly heat treated on their cutting edges. The back of their blades are effectively still soft steel. This means you can't chip and resharpen them as much as you can with say a European longsword. They are however very thick and very stiff blades and as such they cut soft targets really well. In our HEMA group theres a guy who has an authentic Japanese made katana and the thing cuts bottles and tatami mats better than the Albion sharps we have. But the traditional katana is also a lot shorter than European longswords, for the same weight. The katana blade is traditionaly around 75cm long which is a lot shorter than most European one handed swords. And if you've fenced against longer weapons or extremely tall stature you'd know the struggle of fighting against superior reach advantage. On a side note I don't understand why they didn't put a longer haft on this dadao thing to make a polearm out of it. Polearms are generally speaking much more effective battlefield weapons than swords.

    • @unmessable12
      @unmessable12 6 лет назад +4

      There actually are records of "long handled dadaos" in use in the Chinese military during that period. Since the dadao wasn't exactly standard issue and more popular among militias and police than on the frontlines there was actually a lot of variety as to how they were built. You can't really look at the dadao here and think "this is what everyone was using" because it wasn't. Looking at photos, some of the "dadaos" resembled normal one-handed sabers more than the sword on display here. It is interesting that you mentioned the polearm since it's actually been theorized that the original design for the dadao (and possibly the ox-tail saber) was in fact on a polearm that had its top half cut off. I'm not arguing with you that the heat-treatment of the blade is important to the overall quality of the blade, but you also have to realize that this is a context of relatively modern warfare. Swords like katanas require more maintenance and delicate handling than most dadaos did, something that couldn't be done on the battlefield. Dadaos had no standard quality and the heat treatment and durability of the sword varied greatly. Some of the swords were relatively well made by local smiths and supplied to militias and some were hunks of flattened metal taken from railroad tracks. You can't really evaluate this weapon as viewed here since the idea that it was one standardized weapon, wielded by all soldiers, is little more than a myth.

  • @Zack1440
    @Zack1440 6 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing this video.

  • @sonphan8174
    @sonphan8174 4 года назад

    Interesting, a manuscript teaching you to use a melee weapon against a gun. So the soldiers went to battle with a gun and a Dao or just a Dao and no gun?

    • @shahstormaggedoni5854
      @shahstormaggedoni5854 3 года назад

      Dao & gun, albeit an outdated long rifle

    • @ambulocetusnatans
      @ambulocetusnatans 3 года назад +1

      The Japanese were skilled at bayonet fencing, so the Chinese needed a big sword to counter it. A rifle with a bayonet has a lot of mass, so an ordinary sword won't stop it.

  • @karmax_17
    @karmax_17 21 день назад

    tiandi whenever I fake a single heavy: 2:18

  • @ME-hm7zm
    @ME-hm7zm 12 лет назад

    Hey, I just bought your manual last night and I have to say the translations are pretty easy to follow. This vid is great, though I do have an observation in case you ever do a DVD and or a new YT video for it. While your movements are fluid, it seems you're keeping extra distance from your target (probably to prevent jabbing him). From an outside observer, it makes it harder to follow. Also, it would be nice if each "play" followed up with a repeat in slow motion. Keep up the good work!

  • @paulwhite8235
    @paulwhite8235 12 лет назад +2

    Thank you.Well done.

  • @Quackerilla
    @Quackerilla 3 года назад +1

    Very useful!

  • @psychkick666
    @psychkick666 5 лет назад

    why the gun doesn't have bullet?

    • @孟心海
      @孟心海 3 года назад +2

      Sometimes at close range it's better to take care of your enemies with bayonet instead of bullets

  • @小白张-c2h
    @小白张-c2h 3 месяца назад

    持枪只需要格挡就可以招架大刀的劈砍,但是近身的确是大刀有优势。

  • @SifuRodriguez
    @SifuRodriguez 12 лет назад

    Fantastic, we are so lucky that you do this work!!!!
    Yours Manuel Rodriguez Sifu

  • @murphylhunn
    @murphylhunn 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic!

  • @MrStephen1123
    @MrStephen1123 10 лет назад

    演示很好,配乐也很好听。果然每招都克刺刀,终于知道为啥当年小鬼子害怕了

    • @lileo5811
      @lileo5811 10 лет назад +1

      你没发现实际上这是刀破长枪的动作改编么?

  • @subhendusaha3629
    @subhendusaha3629 3 года назад

    What if the Japanese soldier has a katana ?
    That’s different from a rifle

    • @ambulocetusnatans
      @ambulocetusnatans 3 года назад

      From what I know, this weapon was chosen because it could counter both the katana or the bayonet. Japanese soldiers were skilled with both, so the Chinese needed the DaDao.

    • @lmichael4307
      @lmichael4307 3 года назад

      Chinese soldiers also used Miao Dao, which is created for the sole purpose of dealing with a katana user.

  • @Amithrius
    @Amithrius 6 лет назад

    How are any of those techniques meant to be effective against a loaded firearm?

    • @bosbanon3452
      @bosbanon3452 5 лет назад

      I dont know but the chinese army still use that sword alongside with firearms during the sino-japanese wars

    • @teamnoob52
      @teamnoob52 5 лет назад +1

      From what little I know, designated dadao units had more than just their namesake at their disposal, especially hand grenades, not to mention whatever firearm they had access to be it a Mauser broomhandle type or a rifle. Furthermore they were acutely aware of the need to carefully approach their targets in order to get close enough to do any good. The 29th's Dadao unit made their famous assault at night, achieving devastating surprise against an enemy obsessed with night fighting themselves. Of course this is all off the top of my head, and there are far better sources than myself on this subject. One final thing I should mention is that a significant user of dadao were the Date to Die corps, straight up suicide units who strapped dozens of stick grenades to themselves, which they were known to destroy Japanese tanks with by rolling under them and "daring to die" with a firm yank on the interconnected friction cords. This wasn't about personal survival so much as it was national survival by any means necessary.

    • @rayray6490
      @rayray6490 4 года назад +1

      No one ever said melee techniques were going to win over firearms. But melee fighting was still a thing in WWII believe it or not. Less and less so with more advanced weaponry comes to play in later years. There are numerable instances where Chinese and Japanese forces were so close to each other, they resorted to hand-to-hand melee. Other times it was simply because of lack of ammunition.

  • @pasty_film_journey
    @pasty_film_journey 6 лет назад

    Does anyone know the song?

  • @jackchn
    @jackchn  12 лет назад

    Thank you "ksipa", appreciate very much.
    Where did you learn your DaDao form from?

  • @ronanfu81
    @ronanfu81 9 лет назад

    Where to learn this ? :)

  • @KnowledgeIsFood
    @KnowledgeIsFood 4 года назад

    看了还是长的赢,只要退后一小步就砍不到了

  • @Oshaoxin
    @Oshaoxin 9 лет назад +3

    Unfortunately they no longer wage war this way :')

    • @ChamorruWarrior
      @ChamorruWarrior 7 лет назад +7

      My great grandpa from Guam who fought the Japanese bayonets with machetes and shovels would think you're REALLY stupid for what you just said LOL

    • @bosbanon3452
      @bosbanon3452 5 лет назад

      The chinesw use that sword during the sino japanese war

    • @matttheamerican3766
      @matttheamerican3766 4 года назад

      @@ChamorruWarrior better than getting shot by a guy half your size and even less your skill.

    • @matttheamerican3766
      @matttheamerican3766 4 года назад +2

      @@hayden8491 Melee combat is always preferred. Firearms are just too sneaky. You could blown away by a guy you didn't even know was there, and unlike arrows (which already suck) if they miss or you dodge and or deflect, they can just shoot again and again and again. Only weaklings would prefer firearm warfare.

  • @mrm0nty550
    @mrm0nty550 7 лет назад

    is the dadao a saber or a cleaver?

    • @alexwschan185
      @alexwschan185 5 лет назад +1

      Its a "swo-nive"!

    • @parrotbrand2782
      @parrotbrand2782 3 года назад

      Both. Nowadays it is more useful to cleave chicken. You need a large chopping board for it and it is really a pain to sharpen the edges.

    • @孟心海
      @孟心海 3 года назад

      Both

  • @KrissStiletto13
    @KrissStiletto13 10 лет назад +1

    Very cool... I want to get an Da Dao, Chinese War Sword... What's the best real combat quality sword to get? I don't want a Wall Hanger... Great Demonstration.
    Stiletto :)

    • @krisabdullah6196
      @krisabdullah6196 10 лет назад

      I recently purchased the Condor Dadao for around $80 its made full tang, of 1075 high carbon steel, weight is around 1.5kg, it is incredibly solid, comes sharpened (not incredibly sharp but cuts very well), for the price range i would definitely buy it. Chinnature and Zombie Go Boom both did reviews if you want more info

    • @KrissStiletto13
      @KrissStiletto13 10 лет назад

      I have decided to get one of those; it's on my list... After looking everywhere for information on this; I decided that this is the best choice. When I get it, I'll do a Video on it...
      Stiletto :)

  • @REDELIVE
    @REDELIVE 8 лет назад

    您好,請問實用大刀術有電子檔供作學術分享嗎?

    • @jackchn
      @jackchn  7 лет назад +1

      www.chineselongsword.com/dadao

    • @REDELIVE
      @REDELIVE 7 лет назад

      Thanks a lot!

  • @johnburt7993
    @johnburt7993 10 лет назад

    Very smooth

  • @jackchn
    @jackchn  12 лет назад

    Of course!

  • @kaushikvishwas9060
    @kaushikvishwas9060 4 года назад

    Good music 💙

  • @MrQianli
    @MrQianli 12 лет назад

    传说中的“破锋八刀”

  • @clementgonin6372
    @clementgonin6372 7 лет назад +1

    I was here because of 9gag...

  • @HQinternet
    @HQinternet 11 лет назад

    sounds more like gerudo valley from zelda - ocarina of time
    watch?v=Hy0aEj85ifY

  • @7dayspking
    @7dayspking 7 лет назад +7

    Apart from the unnecessary footwork, finally some real combat! too much Chinese sword bullshit circulating online.

  • @KakuAndy
    @KakuAndy 9 лет назад

    Hmm...

  • @wiggalama
    @wiggalama 7 лет назад

    ? You do realize only officers had katanas and it waz type 98 factory ones right? and that the chinese got their asses kicked right?

    • @Marvomeister
      @Marvomeister 7 лет назад +1

      wiggalama Yea we kinda got our ass kicked in wwll until the Russian came(also the nuke). The Chinese army don't have enough guns and shit to arm their army so they gotta use swords.

    • @Marvomeister
      @Marvomeister 7 лет назад +1

      wiggalama and type 98 katana are almost treated like treasure in China cuz ppl like'em

    • @frankhill4358
      @frankhill4358 7 лет назад +2

      +Marvin The Nerd (MarvinTheDamnChink) Google "Battle of Changsha", also the katanas given to Japanese NCOs were factory made and extremely poor quality and was not desired by the Chinese because they were more effective fighting tools, but because they were novelty items (the same reason why Americans looked to collected swords too).

    • @ChamorruWarrior
      @ChamorruWarrior 7 лет назад +1

      The Chinese got their asses kicked because they had swords VS RIFLES, not katanas LOL

    • @zenlot13
      @zenlot13 4 года назад +1

      There's a reason the dadao has a reputation as a katana breaker

  • @赢恒魁
    @赢恒魁 6 лет назад

    有句话怎么说?丢人丢到国外

  • @bootcut984
    @bootcut984 13 лет назад

    HIYAAAAAA!!!!!!!! CHIYAAAAAA! HUA!! AAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!! HADOKEN! SHORYUKEN!!!!!

  • @maraswrath8186
    @maraswrath8186 7 лет назад

    theses guys can barely stand on the ground, let alone should be wielding weapons.

    • @Rasgonras
      @Rasgonras 5 лет назад +2

      You can barely get off your seat, so you should stop commenting.
      Same logic.

  • @MOOFAZAA
    @MOOFAZAA 11 лет назад +1

    This song is absolutely terrible

  • @aminulhafiz3188
    @aminulhafiz3188 2 года назад

    Thank you, great.

  • @williamkennedy1550
    @williamkennedy1550 Год назад

    Excellent!!!