Talking About Harmful Teachings in the Christian Church| With
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- I used to believe that God gave us spiritually anointed people to "correct" and "illuminate" spiritual teachings in the Bible. In many ways, my views weren't just New Age, but very similar to what a Progressive Christian would believe. I'd also have confirmation bias with supposed signs from God. I was interviewed by my friend Ruslan to talk about some examples of New Age teachings that have crept into the mainstream evangelical church.
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This is a shorter clip from a much longer interview I did on his channel. Ruslan asked me to come on and talk about New Age in the Church, a much needed conversation today. As an Ex New Ager, I see many of the teachings I practiced and believed as a new ager being taught and promoted from many pulpits. Watch the longer video here:
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Can you talk about Hebrew Israelites ever since Kanye said what he said. I’ve been noticing people talk about black Americans being Jews. Yesterday I just found out a brother in Christ fell for this teaching. He’s Mexican and is being taught all brown and black people are Jews and white people are evil.
Thanks
He needed a lesson.. lil god is like the serpent in the garden as well ... Eat of this you can be a lil god... I mean it's satanism in your face
Hi Melissa
I value your insights and appreciate your work for the benefit of the church. I was wondering if you could share your opinion on Ann Voskamp's writings
Hi Melissa, The Bible does say however that we can do the things Jesus did, He came as our example, and also The Bible says the power of life and death are in the tongue, alongside the extensive teachings to control the tongue. How then does this tie in with what you said here?
For me, as a born again Christian, it's so hard to Cypher through all these new "teachings " if you will, that I have come to my own place of discernment. For me, just reading my Bible by myself, and asking the Lord for Truth, and guidance ,has been the best way for me. It's just too much with all these other people teachings. The New age teachings are so far from scripture. That's an easy no for me. Im so glad Melissa, that you got out of that. Its amazing to me how God does lead us to the truth.
That (Reading your bible and ask the Lord for truth) is a wise Thing to do. But you still need fellowship. We all need each other to encourage each other, Lift each other when one can't carry themselves, Help discern by exchanging our Views so we don't get caught Up in a wrong View, learn from each other, reflect God and His Plan and Love by Being a multitude of people and personalities all forming a Body. That is what God has created His church to be, a full Body, Not everyone on their own. Try to find a church that you find follows the Lord with their Heart and Hand. Ask for Gods guidance in it and never Stop Reading the bible on your own as Well Like you do. God Bless you!
Pray for people to fellowship with also, while also praying for discernment to know who is from GOD and who isn’t, and then keep far from those revealed as not being from GOD, so that you don’t try to fellowship with the wrong people!!
Studying the Bible is fine and good, but fellowship and community is important also.
What I find interesting about these doctrinal arguments is that they aren't even new. The more you study the history of the church, you see these are almost the same heresies that crept in over the first thousand years.
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Yes that's so true!
same
The most important thing that was said in all of this was by Melissa when she asked, "everybody pray for these people." It's important that we pray for the lost and the misguided so that one day they may truly know Jesus for themselves, as well as to be able to discern what's really of God and what's not.
I'm a Pentecostal, but in studying God's Word I found out a few things about Pentecostalism in general, that just doesn't line up with Scripture. All too often there's an emphasis on tongues. A reading of 1st Corinthians 12 puts Tongues and the Interpretation of Tongues as the last 2 or bottom 2 gifts of the Spirit. Why then the rust to it? And in that same chapter, verses 7-11 we learn that it is the SPIRIT that gives these gifts to who HE pleases for the edifying of the Church. I'm in a constant struggle to get people to seek the Giver, not the gift. Think of it, if there are 9 gifts of the spirit (and other functions mentioned in verses 28 and 29, why would we limit ourselves to tongues. The Bible says, "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no change or shadow of turning." (James 1:17) We know this is true, so why are we focusing on one single thing instead of our Heavenly Father who bestows these gifts to His children? This has caused much harm in His church, plus, isn't it true He can only give to us what we ask according to His will? So if we aren't asking because we are so hung up on one gift, we are missing out on the many blessings God has in store for His children. Pray for me and friends working out their own salvation according to what God says, not to what some denomination says.
Jude 20 says Pray always in the Holy GHOST to increase your faith.
This has taken me into the Holy OF Holys
The latter of the gifts you mentioned as being low on the list is for the assembling together, church gatherings, in his name and the edifying thereof of those who have gathered to hear prophesying and the interpretation of the gift of tongues.
Please dint confuse this with the infilling of the Holy Spirit as experienced by those gathered in the upper chamber on the day of Pentecost as described on Acts 2
How else are we to know, and for God to reassure us, that we have received the Holy Spirit without the evidence if speaking in tongues which many times have been identified as real languages.
@@matthewsmith1547 In answer to the question in your last paragraph, POWER. Acts 1:8 reads, "but you will receive POWER when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and Samaria, and as far as the remotest part of the earth.” and again in Luke 24:49, "And behold, I am sending the promise of My Father upon you; but you are to stay in the city until you are clothed with POWER from on high.” The Greek word here for power is "dynamis" and it's where we get our word for dynamite. Let me ask you a question. On the Day of Pentecost Peter gave a sermon, after which 3000 people came to the Lord. Was this the same Peter we know from before Pentecost, or was this a new Peter?
First Corinthians chapter 14 the rules of speaking in tongues that man cannot change. It’s the word of God it’s your gift from God you need two or more to translate what you’re speaking it is better to speak five words that the church could understand the 10,000 at the church cannot understand if you’re going to speak in tongues in church is better for you to stay silent and pray to God to get confirmation and if you speak in tongues again, they have to be two or more present to translate each word you’re saying it’s not you’re speaking gibberish
You're right, man. I started out Pentecostal. Bible talks about tongues in a whole different way than we see it done in most churches. I guess if we stick with the Word and overlook the " traditions", we can't go wrong. Still Pentecostal, but always take everything I hear and study it myownself. Holy Spirit knows the Truth, and always guides us to it. 👍👍👍👍👍
I heard a great take on new age teachers, “they are not the enemy, they have been captured by the enemy.”
Exactly right!!
But you have to be careful not to listen to those captured by the enemy, as demonic Stockholm can be a thing.
It is long overdue to call out the new age teachings in our churches and to call out those churches and teachers. Thank you for taking the lead on this!!!
Please pray for my cousin Danny, who is convinced about these new age teachings!
Melissa Dougherty you are very articulate. You have a sober mind and you can very clearly explain hazy concepts and root out the deception. This is your gift. You are able to pin down these clouds!
Wisdom of man
Glad to see Ruslan learning. Hopefully he will mature in his understanding of Scripture. As of now he is unqualified to be teaching others. He needs to be discipled himself before hosting a channel attempting to teach others. His understanding of doctrine is very shallow.
As soon as the Holy Spirit came over me, it was as if a spiritual veil lifted and I could see and sense the danger in the New Age. I had received Reiki a few times in person, and have a close relative who is attuned and has in the past sent me Reiki. I pray in Jesus' name to create a shield around me now when I think she may be up to sending me some. It's like an unwanted gift that the people pleaser in me can't actually tell her "no" to. When I was saved, it was my experience that I was having a spiritual /psychic break that only Jesus could lead me through. I found myself in a bath, looking at a portrait of Him my Aunt had drawn, that I had placed in the room a week or so prior not knowing I would be engaging in a period of spiritual rebirth and being born of water in an act of baptism, looking straight at His image. My relative sent me Reiki while I slept during this time, and I saw her in my dreams vividly. She told me over the phone she was surprised at how clear/light I was (something to that affect). I didn't have the words to tell her that I had been reborn. It was a beautiful time in my life.
Totally on point. I remember when i was in NAR the saying "we go from glory to glory" and that really messed with me when things in my life were no where near glorious..my preception of reality was so skewed, logic was out and denial of the situation happens gradually and subtly.
Thank you so much Melissa for doing these videos. Concerning this subject matter, of one Camp of Christians going at it with another camp, it has put me in the position of becoming a Berean Bear. And this applies to anyone from the Country Baptist, all the way to the Hyper-Charasmatics. No matter how good our teachers seem to be, "we all" need to be like "Berean Bears," and "study the scriptures," to make sure what "they are teaching us is so."
Study to show ourselves approved unto God ! I love this journey . He is faithful
This is where I’ve come from. 28 never knew God was into new age and than Jesus found me, burnt it all and gave my life to him 🙏🏻
Thank you so much. I left the Mormon church. Thank you !!!
Praise Jesus!!
Read the book “Out of Mormonism”
I praise God for your salvation! I too was awakened from Mormonism. All glory to God. Praise to Jesus Christ of Nazareth who suffered the cross! Holy Savior, God and King!✝️🙏🕊️
Very good interview. It helped me understand some things I have and some I have not encountered. I can see where well intended believers could actually be fooled away from God. The Bible has stood the test of time for a reason. Be a blessing.
I just can’t believe how much you have helped me realize this, this last year Melissa. God TOTALLY broke me and woke me up to this, and your videos in this helped me realize it along the way!!! Thank you so much!!!
I was just having a conversation with a family member yesterday about things that are not biblical and “extra -revelation” they felt like they received , despite what the Bible teaches.
I had some friends who were into the word of faith movement. If I would say something like, I can’t do this task because it’s too hard, they would say don’t speak that into existence. 🙄 Lots of televangelist say things like this.
WOF is poison.
There's definitely some strange teachings out there... But there is so much scriptural evidence that supports us living like Jesus did, not just in the miraculous but character as well.
Yes I agree. And that the Lord can speak directly to us. Never out of line with the Bible and never to replace His Word, but all of the direction of my life has come through whispers of the Holy Spirit. Sometimes it’s Him highlighting something in the Bible and sometimes it’s been where to move or what to study. It’s often not been what I’ve wanted but it’s always been for the best and glorified Him. We see that all throughout the Bible. God leads people and uses others to do so too.
Who knew the Church had so many problems?? Thank you, Melissa, for coming to our rescue!!
It's not the church but a counterfeit
I really love how much reverence you have for the Word. I think your testimony is absolutely amazing, and the Lord's hand is so evident in your life. Your content really is priceless. I would lovingly caution having a "knee-jerk" reaction to the heresy we see in the world and even some parts of the church though. To say that some people -- even many people are abusing "hearing from the Lord" for their own gain and deceiving countless people is absolutely true. But to say that the Lord does not directly reveal or speak to people isn't the fix for that, as it's just not Scriptural.
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That's no different than grace, honestly. How many people abuse grace, and do all kinds of things that are damaging to themselves and others, all because they "have God's grace" and they "can"? The answer isn't to abolish grace, as grace is Scriptural and good -- necessary even! Even Paul knew people would abuse grace (Romans 6). The remedy to people abusing grace would be the same thing Paul and the Word does, which is teach the correct doctrine of grace. But abolishing all doctrine of grace because many abuse it is just as wrong.
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I think it's the same for following the Spirit. The answer isn't to abolish all doctrines of hearing from the Lord or receiving direction and revelation from the Lord, as those things are Scriptural, which means that they are necessary for the believer. To abolish them would be wrong. But the remedy for people abusing "hearing from the Lord" would be to teach the correct and biblical doctrine of hearing from the Lord, and helping our brothers and sisters to grow solid, biblical discernment in testing the spirits "whether they are from God."
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Anyway, keep up the good fight! Thank you for all your labor and love. It's very evident how much you love and care for the Lord's people, and His Word. I especially wish more had your reverence for His Word.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
Prayers out for those shepherds and their congregation🕊️
His grace and mercy be upon you all and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
What an encouraging interview, thank you so much for sharing! Perhaps the only question I would raise is this: what about John 14:12 where Jesus says “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.” I am in full agreement with you as I dispose the New Age influence in the church today, and it truly grieves my heart that the truth is being traded for lies in the HOLY body of Christ. However, I also see from John 14 that believers receive power through the Holy Spirit to be witnesses, and in so performing many of the works Jesus did, not exceeding the authority of the word of God. I despise the “Little God Doctrine“ and by no means do I think that we are gods, but as believers we are filled with the same holy spirit that raised Jesus from the dead to empower us for godliness.
I was born with scripture alone, faith alone, and grace alone. It's been in my life forever. It's interesting listening to people like you who are looking and finding. An aunt, however, changed her thinking in college. Early sixties. She believes there is more than one way to God. Family full of ministers and parochial teachers. I don't think she wants to hurt her friends 😞.
I am Pentecostal and have been saved most of my life. Knowing Scripture is the most important, and like your stressing the importance of knowing Scripture. We do hear from the Lord but we should never hear anything contrary to Scripture. He will speak to us about the direction he wants us to go.
So happy to see two of my favorite RUclipsrs together!!! ❤
Ruslan is lukewarm. Melissa is the real deal!
@@lovegod8582 lukewarm?
Ruslan is literally doing a conference teaming up with the new age and is WILLINGLY doing it alonside Joel Osteen. The Wisdom Challenge event features Brian Simmons, and NAR teachers Bill Johnson and Kris Vallaton Heidi Baker and many more. It also features Ruslan. He's called out new ages like Joel Osteen in the past. We can't have our cake and eat it too.
He has explained his reasoning about this in one of his videos... It may have got cut out of the video though, when he chops them.
You mean, he JUSTIFIED his reasoning for doing it. Like he does everything else. The king of justification lol
Let's not lose hope until after the conference. Lets all pray he will use some very creative and constructive criticism to point people to Truth while he's there. I personally don't listen to him but I heard about that conference
@@micheletisdale7467 I appreciate your heart towards this matter but unfortunately he's compromised and has been wishy washy for most of his time on this platform. Unless he repents, his witness is tainted and irrelevant (Galatians 5:9). I honestly doubt he's going to offer any constructive criticism or rebuke to any of them.
@@4elizabeth I think you need to check your heart, mate.
I love how God is using your experiences as a new Christian in the New Age to warn others about these insidious teachings infiltrating the Church. It's a good reminder that He is always faithful and that He weaves our testimony in ways that we may not understand in the moment.
Melissa you are such a blessing! I was never real deep in to the new age but I did watch The Secret years ago and truly believed I could manifest my own reality by throwing things out to the universe and also threw the power of positive words and thinking! I had absolutely no idea how dangerous this is and that I was trying to be my own god! It makes complete sense now!
Satan sure is cunning and deceptive! I guess that’s why he disguises himself as an angel of light! You don’t even realize you are following him down a trail of deceptive lies! God Bless you for exposing it all bringing it into the light! ❤🙏🏻✝️
You can't manifest without action.
Thanks again for sharing your continued efforts with us…I must say, from my experience thus far, it’s called “the ‘good’ news” and not “the ‘pleasant’ news” for good reason…
Good one. God gives us teachers to fix your mistakes. Thanks be to God.
"The Secret" is one of the most insidious books ever to be published.
I know I'm watching this one year later, but I resonate with your story so much. Thank you for your channel and all that you do!
This is eye-opening! I need more!
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Here is the link to the full interview if you wanna watch it.
I agree. Seeking to hear God’s voice for direction in life is not biblical. Thank you for touching on this topic.
Knock and the the door shall be answered unto you. Seek and ye shall find. Matthew 7.7
Seek my face...
Seek the Lord with all your heart and you shall find HIM ...
I Read kenneth Hagin books, E W. Kenyon and John G Lake books, listened to Curry Blake and others on YT. They do not teach were at God's level or little Gods but that we are to renew our mind to the mind of Christ, that were new creations in Christ. We do have power and authority once we know who we are in Christ. We can cast put demons, heal the sick etc. Like Jeaus did. Once I learned this I got healed from anxiety and a few family members were healed by laying on of hands. Someone's short leg grew out when I told it to. I do not read Copelands teachings. We all need to learn this as Christians and help deliver people from bondage, / sickness like Jesus did and instructed us to do.
Pray for these people, LOVE IT!!!
Shared on Facebook. Studying show yourself approved so that no one is let astray.
Gnostics in the time of ACTS, just repackaged! Great interview!!!
Oh man, I thought the thumbnail was one of you against the other and I thought, NOOOO! Glad this is a collab. 👏👏 you both rock!
Thank you Melissa! You are SO on it!
I was all about new age most my life. I was searching so hard flr God. Well Jesus came to me and I was born again on October 22nd 2019. We praise you Lord Jesus Christ. There is No other way to God but through JESUS. God is using you in such an amazing way. This is SO important everyone
8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
I just watched the new Avatarmovie and the New age “inclusivity” jumped out and showed itself sooo clearly…
ALARMS GOING OFF‼️
I’m glad I watched this. Very thought provoking. My boyfriend is a born again Christian, but believes in a lot of the Bethel teachings. He says that we limit ourselves by putting God in a box and not believing all that he can do in and through us. When I challenge this with having a frame work in scripture that allows us to understand God’s character and therefore recognize what he’s doing verses fake or occult practices disguised as Christianity he tries to explain it away with John 14:12 and Ephesians 3:20. I never want to limit God, but I also don’t want to be deceived by New Age beliefs. I continue to cling to the map that scripture leaves me while also keeping an open mind for the Holy Spirit to lead me into all truth.
Pray for your boyfriend everyday 🙏🏻
Great job sister with your insight.
Love ya
What struck me most in this video was the unBiblical meditation. I was doing this before becoming a believer and I think it led me to hearing voices....voices of the enemy, since they were usually cussing me out and angry at me. It would be good to hear more about this unBiblical meditation. I am sure others are participating in this and it is driving them away from the true God.
@@firstAdamsecondAdam This is what I'm trying to understand. Decipher G*Ds voice by going into the word and checking if its biblically sound. However,also know that Lucifer also knows the Bible
Oh Mylanta, Melissa! I so get what you're saying like about being addicted to the supernatural. Especially personal prophecy.
Melissa Dougherty:
"...but this teaching that we can do what Jesus did, literally, more than what He did rather, is still taught actively in so many churches today."
"...but they follow this line of thinking that what Jesus did we can do. We can calm the weather, we can heal at will. And we have the power to manifest based on what we think and say. That's important because what you say has power and it can make things happen and the reason why is because God had that speaking faith, power to create. So we have that same power. It's messed up. And really this is why it's a debate and a controversy because that that ideal is way more New Age in origin than Biblical."
I disagree in what Melissa said. Our words do have power! Holy Spirit lives in us! We do have power in Christ Jesus! He gave us power and authority to overcome the enemy in Jesus Name! How is that unbiblical? See the Bible verses below. And read the whole chapter of John 14. What a powerful chapter! Jesus has said so much in this chapter!
Luke 10:19
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
John 14:12
12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
Numbers 30:2
When a man makes a vow to the Lord or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said.
Same sentiment here and was bothered when they commented that. Hopefully people can see your comment more.
Altho in their defense they might be just referring to being like God in a way that He is all powerfull, all knowing etc? But it should be noted that in Jesus name we can also do miracles and all the things Jesus did.
@@chakachacha Yes, I'm glad you caught that too!
2 Timothy 3:2-5 (NIV)
2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
God bless you. You said you are in Albuquerque. Tough place to be and still be strong in your faith. I'm in Alamogordo nm and have discovered your videos since I began having questions about my church recently. Thank you for the videos
African pentecostalism is came with new age teachings but many Africans argue with me because they don't understand it, their gospel glorifies men.
You bring up some great points!
As concerning the Word of Faith movement. I question certain points you stated. John 14:12 Jesus is telling the disciples that as a result of Him being resurrected, we are capable of doing the things which Jesus did and even greater. My understanding may be off, but we can do the things He has done without claiming to be him. The first century church was a key example to this. They worked in miracles. They preached the gospel. Pretty much everything outside of dying for our sins...
I think it is a very unhealthy practice to seek after signs. You made a great point that it becomes very "self" motivated. I do though however believe that we shouldn't stray from them and avoid them and in actuality expect signs without trying to force the hand of God. If the apostle Paul can bring clarity of how to operate in the giftings to the Corinthian church, then I'm sure he could do the same for the American church let alone the church by large.
Once again, I appreciate your content!
Hi Melissa! Thank you for your station! Can you explain the scripture when Jesus says we will do these things and greater? And what about prophesy? I’ll also go look through your videos to see if you e already answered there questions. Thanks!
"It's Supernatural! " From a NAR/Bethel pastor I knew. I was dissapointed to find out it didn't mean to :"Leap tall buildings with a single bound," and be " more powerful than a Locomotive."
/Sarc. When you get the point of being caught up in this, even if it works, this is displacing Jesus. He ends up being the giver of gifts, not the Son of God.
Thanks for telling the truth about poor Father Richard Rohr.
I also got into the occult when I fell off the path, and was obsessed with signs and wonders from "God". Even if you don't practice witchcraft and you search out signs of God's will in your life, you are practicing paganism. Sure signs can and very well might be sent to you in the Word or even in the world, but that is up to Him, when and if you should receive that. Trust and have faith that if you have the Spirit, you are in the will of God.
I like Melissa, thank you for your videos.
In part I agree we do not look for a 'word' for guidance. That is immature and negates responsibility for our actions, which should always come out of our nature, as in the good man brings good actions out of his heart. However, equally it is also dangerous to look to the scripture for 'how' you should behave, which can be feigned love. Which is also immaturity. Whenever Paul attacked his detractors he always looked at their conduct, their motives, their behaviour, their fruit. When we look to the scriptures it is always about being changed in the inside, sanctification. Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy. This Spirit of Prophecy opens with in the beginning and ends with the last word in Revelation. There can be no private word given outside of the Spirit of Prophecy, whether it's a private word of 'prophecy' or looking to the scriptures for some personal direction of whether, for example, you should take a certain job. The fruit of the Spirit such as good, kindness, long-suffering etc are the result of a changed nature. Christ nature as revealed in the scriptures should always be a scandal, an affront, a contention to your flesh your old man. It's at this junction when you see yourelf in this light and understand his kindness towards you that you understand the kindness which he gives to you, or rather shares with you for other. A good rule of thumb, if you can be kind, good etc. to other without in the slightest wanting anything in return you are growing in the fruit of the Spirit. If you only see a little of how good he is to you then this will be the measure of how much you will be good to others. Those who are forgiven much love much. This is literally all the guidance you will need. After this you will be able to judge all things and not be judged by anyone. It's the best way to attest the fruit of another.
Excellent presentation----thank you! Just an additional note from this old timer-- the one Christian author who first warned the church about the dangers of the "New Age" movement was Dave Hunt. His 1983 book "Peace, Prosperity and the Coming Holocaust" was ground breaking at the time, and was a true revelation to me and many thousands, if not millions, of Christians. Mr. Hunt went home to the Lord in 2013.
I have a super difficult time listening to Ruslan as he seems to promote craziness in NAR.
How so?
Just Brilliantl Melissa, and I'm so happy for you that God's revelation is now enough for you.
When do we look at the past leaders and their edits in the Bible? Are people looking all the way back to the time of the untouched words? We cannot forget all of the “human” hands that have altered the Bible. 🤷🏼♀️ “Greater works than these, you shall do.” So many misinterpreted Jesus and his teachings in my opinion.
I listened to the whole thing from the link below. So good!
What I was taught: Live a Christ-like life, read the scriptures and ask God (pray) to explain things you don't understand, and at all other times pray to remind yourself of your daily blessings. Either God will inspire you in thought or feeling or by inspiring others around you.
Thank you for teaching on this! I was in a church that taught on some of this & its given me ALOT of confusion! I'm born again, but am trying to look into the Word more.
I totally agree with you I was on the same path with new thought authors but Thank God I came back to Jesus .
This is great 👍
I'm glad I got out of that. Jesus has shown me the truth. I prayed for years I just want to know the truth 🙏. And it was in unexpected way. Slow form and renewing of the mind took years but I'm here now and i look back and think how far ive come.
As a christian since my early teens and been active in church ive seen the changes in preaching styles of pastors and how praise and worship has changed...that's one of the reasons also ive stayed out attending services...better to pray at home read your bible...
Seek out a biblical and traditional church that sticks to the Bible and does not change with the times. You may find a home in the Orthodox Church, the worship is made from the biblical books mostly the Psalms and the Gospels (the whole of salvation history is told in each Eucharist service and the daily cycle of services), change if it happens is glacial.
There is a joke the Orthodox tell about ourselves, "how many Orthodox does it take to change a light bulb?
None, what is change?"
This illustrates not only how we can make fun of ourselves but also the reality of rejecting change to the doctrines of the faith.
Hi Melissa! I love your videos! I was wondering if you could make a video or link me to one that talks about how to understand God's will for us? I'm having trouble knowing what to do regarding career and I would love some advice or information on that. Thank you
Good teacher..When I got born again..I got the Spirit..and that same spirit that Jesus walked in..I do..We are born again...words are living and go forth with help or hurt..all this is given to the new converts...at salvation...
Sometimes people do read the Bible and do look for answers in scripture but also look for signs or a word from God about something specific that isn't specifically addressed in Scripture. Should I go to school here or here? Should I buy a house or wait a year? Should I take this job or that job??
It's so exciting to get a clue about the inner workings of gods mind unclouded by pentecostal interpretation and I was pentecostal EVEN the name pentecostal is built on a festival "The day of pentecost" on the day of pentecost God poured out his spirit on Jews foreigners speaking other languages and on gentiles the name pentecostal is built on that special day so they focus on the holy Spirit more than christ and speaking in babble more than the holy Spirit God gave languages so the tower was called the “TOWER OF BABBLE " SINCE GOD GAVE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AT THE TOWER PRIOR TO THAT MEN SPOKE ONE LANGUAGE.God knows that Jews and foreign Jews who don't speak Hebrew and gentiles will gather for a religious festival called the day of pentecost and they will go to the temple God knew this before he confused the languages at the tower of babel God also in the bookvof Joel which is quite hundreds of years after the towel of babble he say" on that day I will poor out my spirit upon all flesh men women children maids servants so hundreds and hundreds of centuries later christ work on the cross and his resurrection allows God to fulfill the promise of the holy Spirit and it's on a day that didn't exist when God made this promise but he knew there would be a day of pentecost where gentiles and Jews and men and women and the curious will be roaming around how smart is God but in pentecostal circles we had tarrying back then after you got saved so after you got Jesus you then was supposed to go tarry / wait for the holley spirit looking back many ppl thought tarrying meant something other than wait and that this thing called tarrying is required to get the holy Spirit remember the kings James version says tarry which means wait so they think they are supposed to tarry for the spirit when in fact when Jesus told the apostles to tarry until the fall of the spirit it was due to the fact that God wanted them to wait for the day of pentecost so he can deliver on the promises of the spirit because Jesus is t at the right hand of the father there will be hundreds of people on the day of pentecost ( both Jews and gentiles will be utilizing parts of the temple yes there was a part of the temple called the court of the gentiles this is where gentiles could seek after the Jewish God but they did not worship together Jews and gentiles and when ppl talk of Jesus driving out money changers they left the part of the temple that was for Jews incumbered but the court of the gentiles they used to sell merchandise hindering the gentiles who were seeking after the one true God and that's a real reason for Jesus fury so once a person is a believer they do not have to wait for the spirit they already have him but God was waiting for all the ppl Jews and gentiles and Jews who did not speak Hebrew and were from other places so here's my paraphrase of the situation " after my son gets here I will pour out my spirit I will time his death and resurrection just in time for the day of pentecost I will have them wait in the upper room upon my initial out pouring of my spirit ooh I could pour out my spirit upon the apostles with out the day of pentecost but I desire all men everywhere to be saved and the day of pentecost is the perfect time I can reach many nations Jews gentiles the poor and women by my spirit and just like I split them up and gave them other languages at the tower of babel I'm going to on the day of pentecost speak to each one in their own language that I gave them at the tower of babel otherwise what good is the gospel if they can't understand it them able to understand will serve as an accessory to the gospel that will be preached that day because it will be a miraculous sign they will know this is unusual and the apostles are simple men that cannot speak there language but since it's the day of pentecost and it's a festival it will be loud so I will need to pour out my spirit dramatically and loudly to DRAW the people's attention to the apostles some will swear them drunk though but they will be practical and effective they will preach ppl will understand it in their own language and three thousand will come as a result but I hope the ppl in the future don't expect me to cause a commotion ever time they are born again I hope they don't think they have to speak unintelligent babble now Cornelius is a gentile this time I'm going to have him speak another language to the Jewish apostles to confirm that indeed salvation is for the gentiles because Peter got that in him and even after I reveal to him that I want gentiles Paul still had to rebuke him years down the line for how he dealt with gentiles so I'm going to have Cornelius speak by the spirit another language which will be a sign to the apostle that I want gentiles and when Peter got back to the apostles they was like yo dude what you doing going over to the gentile crib and telling him about Jesus peter was like yo dude God gave me a vision about eating strange meat that gentiles eat I protested to God that I would never eat gentile foods then God told me a gentile dude seen me in a vision and he was waiting for me so dudes what the hell was I supposed to do when God gave this gentile dude Cornelius a vision hell how many Jews even have visions and then when I got to his crib I didn't even get to finish my stuff about Jesus the dude was already believing before I finished my sermon and he spoke a language I know he didn't know so since God gave him the spirit and the tongue was a sign of that so since God reached out to a gentile what could I do so the apostles shut up God talking behind the scenes but my paraphrase " I don't intend to make a dramatic entrance or have ppl speak in other languages to confirm the spirit those days were the very beginning and it was necessary and practical and functional it was needed in the beginning but as time goes on they will know the don't have to say signs or hear languages nor will I have to make a dramatic entrance they will know they have the spirit on the basis of believing in the all supreme Christ and not because someone babbled something and as they will see in my word there will be less and less of these signs because it's all by faith anyway plus only in the most extraordinary circumstances will I cause a language to be heard in the language the person speaks like a remote tribe but I the day of pentecost served it's purpose I have believers in all languages so so those believers can reach the believers that speak their language no need for me to supernaturally make that happen
Thank you, the concept of the Power of what a human says. If God is speaking, say in the Gifts of the Spirit, that might be different. (Notice I said... "might") For God speaking through us CAN make things happen. If we are praying according to His Scriptural Will... THOSE are words that can make a change. BUT MAN grubby little hominid that he is.... hasnt that type of power. Words do have a power to influence the way people think, they can set lives on terrible paths or encourage them out of terrible paths, but they are not divine. Only God is that.
Thank you both! Great to see you doing a show together.
Sometimes you don't even realize how its already influenced you, or people around you. Case in point: My brother is a pastor of a small church. They got a bad report that one of their members, who had been sick for awhile, in fact had cancer. When he and his wife were talking about it on the way home she made the comment, "I was afraid he did, but I didn't want to say that, or speak it out..." He had a talk with her about that, showing her that was actually WOF, even New Age thinking?!? That she, as a born-again Christian, didn't want to speak the word, "Cancer", for fear that it might make it so?!?
Great video. Thanks guys. I'll bookmark this one for sure. It's always been about Gen 3:5 "you will be like God". THE LIE has not changed since the beginning and it's no surprise that THE LIE is just as attractive today - it's just more disturbing that it's cloaked in Christianese and biblical discernment is sparse.
I love the collabs!!!
This is great. I had to go watch the whole interview.
Great insights! Thank you!
I thank God Almighty that I have never heard of these people.
So.....is there a part two??? Lol. This was a great and much needed topic of discussion.
I would like to see a evaluation of the teaching of David Bentley Harts book called that all shall be saved, or even a debate between him and the gentleman you recently had on that supports the doctrine on eternal conscious torment. Great interview. I’m not surprised that people are reaching out to her to do interviews on there channels.
Could you look at Victory World Outreach teaching in colorado springs. Pastor Ron Jones, his Sons Paul and Dustin Jones, Please
Hi Melissa. I'm Catholic and very much enjoy your videos.
When Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead he said "thank you Father for hearing me, I know you always hear me but I say this out loud so they may hear me." He was saying he did not raise Lazarus from the dead but the Father did it for him because he did not doubt and it was God's will. Jesus said "the Father is greater than I." Jesus is the word made flesh and we must eat his flesh (word) and drink his blood (Spirit). Jesus said if we did not eat his word and drink his Spirit we would by no means enter the Kingdom.
Ruslan is lukewarm. Associating with him is not a good move for you Melissa. You’re far too respected. Don’t go down that path!!
I feel the same with you. Ruslan is not a good media to listen to for Christian. He is a compromised Christian.
Yea it’s helpful to trace back where the strange teachings came from. I wouldn’t stop at word of faith movement. Keep going back to Martin Luther and even further back to when Catholicism started and you will find Orthodoxy. I would think that serious Christians would want to know about their own history if nothing else but to keep from dangerous teachings such as you have here, but also for what you are missing in the fullness of what God has provided and is still in practice today. This is the treasure hidden in a field where you sell all you have and buy the field so that you don’t miss any of the treasures.
The lack of discernment among Christians today is sad. Read and study your bible.
I feel like she’s been in my church, my friends, and my head!
Another great chat! Keep up the good work.
Fantastic conversation!! 👏🏽 Can you guys please do more conversations together🔥👏🏽
Our preachers sermons recently have basically been read your Bible so that you are not deceived.
Melissa really opened my eyes , i was really talking to God about manifest things in the universe, talk the moon , the sun , Jesus did it , read the genesis , how created , the moon , sun , , how the psalms talked about how the moon , the sun stars , universe , talking how great His works his , , asked myself why they worshipped the universe ask them , they are not even the Creator, God used you to answer my prayers , this is why I left the Christian church , to much new age ,
I hope you have since then found a biblical church. They exist (!)
I do pray for you Melissa. Your knowledge is impressive, and clearly you have a deeper understanding of the so-called "New Age". It is clear that it has left you very hurt, and that Jesus is still working in you to heal you. Just in listening to you talk about the heresies of this movement, I would seem that they have taken the Christian wisdom traditions and spiritual exercises from the monasteries through the work and guidance of the Holy Spirit. They have taken these and stripped them of Christ, perhaps so that they can be fused with ideas and practices stripped from other religions. Nevertheless, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater". In a way the so called "Critical Theory", "Intersectionality" and "Woke" movement has taken bits like Matthew 25 and stripped it of Christianity, namely agape love.
A decade or so ago, I was in the same state of mind as you appear to be now. Personally I found the Jesuit spiritual exercises to be very useful (Lecto Divino or the Divine Office are also very good, but don't confuse them with bible study, they are bible prayer not bible study, bible study is a separate exercise). These taken with Romans 8:26-27 - I also like Romans 8:28, and used to like Romans 8:29, but not so much after hearing how Calvin butchered it, although read in context it remains very good.
So Melissa I pray for you prayer life. That you will find time to allow your-self to be poor in spirit so that The Spirit will come into your heart, to help you your weakness and intercedes for you through wordless groans. So don't just do Vocal prayer but include meditative prayer and contemplative prayer.
Good Bless and Love you.
Only 4 min in and the thought that came to me Milissa was The Word of Faith teaching believes a lot if not all this stuff, no???
Yep, sure does. Melissa hits the nail on the head near the end about Word of Faith. Very dangerous teaching and it's deceiving many people. The Bible warns about false teaching over and over.
Yes exactly 💯
Love from Ethiopia.
Guts you have.., God bless.. Nailed it...
God Don't Make Mistakes
The scary part is when people say they were living in fallseness, but yet somehow they still claim to be born again. That doesn't make sense to me. So couldn't a Catholic technically say they were born again but they just were in the wrong theology for a long time but they were definitely saved.
So is she a cessationist? Because, yea, maybe there are some extremes, but to put Pentecostals in a bracket feels misleading.
Melissa’s comments in this video or the single best example I have ever seen in my 50 years of throwing the baby out with the bathwater