The fact they didn’t even mention his defensive game shows how underrated he is. Guys like him and Mark stone should be in the selke convo but because they are wingers they don’t get respect for it.
@@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75 Stupid as fuck. Auston should be the 2nd best candidate for the Selke this year behind Barkov. Stats and the eye test BOTH back it up
Defensively, 2 way player is amazing but the biggest miss on the numbers they skipped is his career +/- is 252. McDavid career +/- is 75. Ovechkin 82, Kane 41, Stamkos 63. Crosby is only one close at 193. I think it’s safe to say all are going to the HOF and yet Marchand has at +/- of over double to triple most of the others while leading the league in short handed goals, top 5 and up in goals/points over the past decade. Marchands underrated!
He only has more points than them if you cherry pick the last 6 years, which I don't know why you/they are. Kane and Panarin are both over 1ppg in their career, Marchand isn't.
@@Speednote10 marchand’s career is a lot longer than panarin’s. And in the case of Kane, maybe marchand is better than him now, not in my opinion though. No ones disputing that Kane’s had the far better career.
This conversation just shows how underrated he still is by some people. He's on track to finish 5 straight seasons at a 100-point pace. He's been an elite penalty killer, has had Selke-caliber defence his whole career and also has a Cup. He's a lock.
Not gonna lie, Marchy and Bergy are lying under the radar a little bit. Marchy for all the reasons you stated in the vid, in addition to his short handed magic. And Bergy for his outstanding defensive style of play, which sort of prevents him from putting up those big numbers like his line mates. Also, his faceoff percentage is CRAZY good, and I think winning face offs is a very underrated stat, as winning a huge faceoff helps your team gain possession and score a goal
people always put bergeron with the other top centres of the league in their conversations wich he deserves but i don't feel he's underrated... marchand not be considered enough for the players he's become in last few years (wich is one the best player of the league). Altough as an habs fan i hate him.
Bergy is the furthest thing from under the radar, he's actually so "underrated" by wanna quirky fans who want to prove how hardcore they are that he's become overrated. He's an outstanding defensive forward which I think will get him into the hall of fame, but fans are so quick to call him underrated and even say outrageous garbage like him being better than Crosby or Mackinnon (spoiler alert: he's not) that the pendulum has swung the other way that I'd call him overrated before I'd call him underrated.
yeah, should definitely be on the bruins ring or honor or whatever the heck they use. Doesnt make him a hall of famer. Even if he gets to 1k points (probably will), that along with 1 stanley cup and no personal awards, i just dont see it
There's plenty of doubt. Zero individual awards, and my biggest issue with him is he was never a point per game player until Pastrnak showed up. Really makes me wonder how much of his production can be attributed to him, and how much is because he's had the entire second half of his career playing next to one of the what, top 5-10 best goal scorers in the league. His career high was 61, then Pasta shows up and it's 85-85-100-87. And he's still not a point per game player, yet has more than 1 penalty minute per game, plus the controversy surrounding him that rubs a lot of people the wrong way. He has a case for sure, but there's a lot of doubt
@@joshg1845 if draisaitl ever comes up for hall of fame discussion, are you gonna use the same logic your using now and hold it against him that he played a long time with mcdavid?
@@JeffONeillOverdrive No because they haven't been linemates for the entirety of Draisaitl's HoF level production. A better comparison for Draisaitl is Malkin, who is a 100% no doubt HoFer. Draisaitl isn't there yet but he's on his way just needs some postseason success. And Draisaitl started hitting a point per game at 23, Marchy didn't do it til 28 (so much later than most guys naturally develop, meaning some external factors- ie Pastrnak-were likely involved).
@@joshg1845Marchand was held back for years based on Claude Julian’s system which prioritized low scoring. Marchand blossomed as soon as Julian was let go
For me he is a lock for the HOF, his play over the last 6 or 7 years has been dominant, and for me he is unequiable the Bruins MVP. His 2 way game is also really good, as seen by his Short Handed Goals, he could/should have 2 or 3 Selke's. Corwin is also right that he provides something different to the game, he has been dirty but he is a great pest and provides fight, and real energy to his team.
Marchand was used poorly by Claude Julien. His career took off after Julien was fired. He could have been easily a point per game player for his whole career if not for Julien holding him back. He's also won everything you can win as far as team championships go: World Hockey Championships gold, World Cup of Hockey gold (plus tourney leading goal scorer), 2 World Jr. gold medals, and a Stanley Cup. Only reason for no individual awards is because the hockey media punish him for being too controversial. Easy Hall of Famer!
Marchand's offensive skill is undeniable but what really sets him apart from others in the the same tier is his defensive ability. Him and Bergeron are the best PK duo in the modern era, and their 5 on 5 defensive numbers are absurd. Marchand alone has more shorthanded goals in the last few years than some teams do. He plays one of the best 2-way games of anyone.
Brad is the best two way winger in the game and has been for probably 5 years. He's been more deserving of a Selke than Bergeron for awhile. It's pretty offensive that last year a winger got into the final three and it was Stone over Marchand. I mean no offense to Stone but Marchand is elite two ways. He should be in that conversation every season. If the press didn't hate him he'd have won multiple individual awards by now. As it stands because he's hated the only awards he can win would be uncontestable ones or maybe an overwhelming playoff performance could get him a Conn Smythe (though I'd assume they'd pull a Crosby of Kessel situation and give that to Bergeron also regardless of numbers).
@@exturkconner you lost me at more deserving than Bergeron for a Selke, that's absolutely ridiculous. I'm a Bruins fan, love Marchands game, but Bergeron's been the best for the last 10 seasons. If anything, Bergeron has been robbed of more Selkes.
@@exturkconner nah he's right. Marchand's two way game is elite but Bergeron might be the best defensive forward of all time. I mean just look at the advanced stats he has for this season, he is a tier above anyone else in the league.
a lot of people overlook the fact that Marchand is also one of the best all around players we have in the league. He leads the bruins all time in shorthanded goals, and in overtime goals. he is always one of our best back checkers and he's always been great defensively along with a great physical game too. he can do everything and he does everything easy HOF.
The man has 33 shorthanded goals and is a total stud defensively. That's on top of having some of the best LW production in the league. If the Hall is meant to be only for point production and hardware then I get your guy's arguments, but I'm hoping it's not that shallow. The bottom line is he has a huge impact on helping Boston win games over the years.
Habs fan here. Hate the Bruins. He is absolutely one of the best all around players I have ever seen. Watch him and you will understand how incredible he is. How he makes everyone better. If you know hockey. You will know how great he is.
Relax, MSL has a hart, a Pearson, 2 art Ross, an Olympic gold, none of which brad has. He also has over 250 more points than him, which brad could get, but he still hasn’t.
The portion when jesse said Olympic gold and there was the asterisk that said world cup of hockey gold is partially true, because he also has an Olympic gold aswell
It’s actually a good question. Show me awards...... Show me 50 goal seasons Show me multiple 100 point seasons Good thing they won that game 7 in Van.... Choke artist.
@@jogendron6320well he's going to hit over 1,000 games and over a thousand points. He has a Stanley Cup under his belt. And he's been regarded "the most impactful player in the NHL" for years Look up all the interviews of players talking about Brad Marchand.. Players and coaches don't hate Brad marchand-the media and fair weather fans do. A lot of fans don't realize that Brad Marchand says things on Twitter to call out the NHL. He stands up for all hockey players. He spoke out against NHL banning and players from participating in Beijing Olympics. And it wasn't about him-it's valuable international and European playing experience that enhances careers Younger players like Jeremy swayman, we're counting on Olympic participation to get that experience. Jeremy's kind of screwed now... But Brad Marchand spoke up. He's not a divisive player, he did a hell of a job leaving the Bruins to win the first three out of four games against the Panthers. Patrice Bergeron returns from injury and we proceed to lose two out of the three games along with our dignity pride and grit.. Everyone wants him on their team.
Marchand is like Corey Perry (though Corey has more hardware to make him viable for the HoF)... People love to hate him, but when he's on your team you love him. If Marchand (or Perry) played for the Leafs - he'd have a statue there
@@ontaranormal2261 HAHAHAHA! You'd tie his skates... everybody who's been on his team (including Sid the Kid) has nothing bad to say about him. So that might say more about you
They’re talking about how much they love him do they forget all his dirty plays like elbowing Johansson in the back of the head after the play was well over
@@tml184being top 3 in the entire league in scoring over a 5 year period with great defense with 33 short handed goals and a cup isn’t hof to you especially when reaches both 1,000 milestones
Corwin, " I felt that he (Brad Marchland) got alot of hate for punching that goalie in the head ". Are you serious?! Do you not know who Tristan Jarry is?! Have you seen his average saving points? Plus the fact that Brad keep skating over to him and punching him multiple times during that game, he deserves to be bench for a couple of games. It wasn't just once. Also, you are telling me that if someone keep punching Vince in the face, you wouldn't want the ref to penalize that player?! Corwin you are crazy! I totally agree with Luca and DZ. Thanks Luca and DZ! Sincerely- A Penguin fan.
Top 5 pts getter in the league whilst also being one of the best penalty killers in the game period. His skating is so underrated… I agree though that he needs to keep it up for another 3 or so years to be in the HOF picture and have less of the silly stuff
the reason why everyone went nuts about the punching with the glove is because IT HURTS MORE WITH THE GLOVE ON THEN OFF! That's why it was a dangerous play because u can hurt a player more by punching them with the glove then without. Why do u think they take the gloves off when fighting?
Alex Mogilny is a triple gold club member, more than a point a game player, and has 1000 points. Marchand probably hits 1000 points but will never have the career point a game mark. If Mogilny is not a HOFer, neither is Marchand.
You guys were so close to talking about Danault and the Kings! Please, talk about the Pacific division a little bit! Kings are on a 20 game streak of outshooting their opponents, approaching the NHL record!
if Mcdavid and Draisaitl are considered locks why isn't Marchand? Sure they score a lot but they dont win.. Marchand has won and is scoring almost as much as those top players and continues to get better (and more entertaining) has he gets older and he improves the team he's on.
Winning what? Boston won 12 years ago and Marchand was Bruins 6th-7th most important player that playoff. How many forwards are inducted without a single individual award and 26 players ahead of them with a better P/GP? 31 players in playoffs. Comparing him to the greatest talent since Lemieux is stupid
McDavid has awards. You know like MVPs, Art Ross. What does Marchy have? Any 50 goal season? 1000 points soon? Rocket Richard? ConnSmythe? Selke? I’ll pass. Ohhh yeah they won that game 7 in Van. Congrats you didn’t choke on that one, you played bigger choke artists!
I know Z mentioned this during the conversation but man was this conversation just a constant circle. It was like all of them saying the exact same thing 5 times in a row maybe in a slightly different way. Overall I think I’m on team Z and Luca. Very good player, but there’s tons of very good players not in the Hall of Fame. Right now I say he doesn’t make it in. Please don’t try and argue because I guarantee no reply to this comment will give me any further argument against this as I’ve already listened to this entire conversation. Lol
Just saying a lot of those guys had like 600 more games than points and quite a few of those guys weren't the greatest people that caused reasons for them to not be put in the Hall of Fame
I love how corwin brought up Phillip danault he was the habs best center and they let him go now look where there at hope Martin stlouis can make a team out of them again not saying Suzuki isn't good he's just the main piece of a habs team that made it to the Stanley cup finals last year also Josh Anderson is another good hab
One thing that is getting overlooked is that it's called the Hall of FAME. There's no denying how famous Marchand is for being a rat while simultaneously being good at the game.
Obviously I’m biased but as this comment section has said. He’s an amazing 2 way player. I respect the devils advocate but he should be in the hall of fame almost no doubt
@@jogendron6320 cup winner, 4 time all star, top 10 in hart voting 4 times, something multiple hall of famers have never even received a single vote for. Youre entitled to your own opinion but if he was on your favorite team I’m sure you’d feel differently
With out a doubt. I have hated him playing against my team for years. If not for is accolades he will be known for how he played the game. I do not use the word SUPER STAR lightly. Only a handful of players in my humble opinion deserved to be so named. He is one who has maintained a very high level of play. He has recently dropped from being a super star, but still very good. Besides I think he has won more than many in the Hall anyway. Love him on my team and hate to play against. LITTLE BALL OF HATE. One of my favorite players.
We need a Grit Award in the NHL for hard working pain in the asses. Name it after some legend like Claude Lemieux or someone...give the guys like Tha-chuk and Brad Marchy-pants something to fight over mid season.
Hahaha Iginla was way better than Marchand. Over 500 goals. And he played in the dead puck era. Won the Art Ross award for most points without reaching 100 points. Won the Rocket Richard. One inch away from a Connie Smythe that Marchand never sniffed. You’re on drugs.
yes he will be but he I don't think he deserves it, a lot players don't , the HOF is too inclusive, it should be a middle ground between what it currently is and the MLB. not every very good or even great player needs to make it, its the hall of fame not hall of very good
People will think Marchand is a dirty player and doesnt deserve to be in the league and shit like that, then turn around and praise Chris Pronger for being one of the best players of his generation
biased but no one ever talks about Marchand's passing ability. His vision is (in my biased humbled opinion) on par with Crosby. People wanna talk about his antics but it's all in his mind. Marchand being a smaller player refuses to be bullied. Not to mention being one of the greatest penalty killing forwards ever with his buddy Bergeron. Put the kid in, he's the complete package and any of you would take this guy in a heartbeat. He is the heart and soul of the Bruins.
Right now: not a HoF But he has more potential to make it than Bergeron. Huge Bruins fan too. His Penalty Kill is so impressive and he is a Bruins HoFer for sure
Not a chance Marchand has more potential to make it than Bergeron. Bergeron is a lock. 4 Selkes, a Cup, Triple Gold Club and he will finish his career with over 1000 points. I would say Marchand is a 50/50. Depends on how he finishes his career.
I just started watching these videos so idk if these are highlights of a stream but if not would be cool to livestream and as wel maybe have some fans leave some opinions that you guys can bounce stuff off of like give people the scoop of what your gonna talk about before dropping and recording the video
The fact they didn’t even mention his defensive game shows how underrated he is. Guys like him and Mark stone should be in the selke convo but because they are wingers they don’t get respect for it.
But Matthews is gonna win it for the next decade per leafs fans… Buddy is horrible defensively
@@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75 Stupid as fuck. Auston should be the 2nd best candidate for the Selke this year behind Barkov. Stats and the eye test BOTH back it up
Defensively, 2 way player is amazing but the biggest miss on the numbers they skipped is his career +/- is 252.
McDavid career +/- is 75. Ovechkin 82, Kane 41, Stamkos 63. Crosby is only one close at 193. I think it’s safe to say all are going to the HOF and yet Marchand has at +/- of over double to triple most of the others while leading the league in short handed goals, top 5 and up in goals/points over the past decade. Marchands underrated!
@@kcfield3332 no one cares about plus minus in 2022. It's a useless stat and has been that for decades
@@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75 Matthews for Hart, Rocket and Selke stay mad weirdo
You gotta remember that while marchand gets more points than kane, panarin etc. and also plays an elite defensive game
He only has more points than them if you cherry pick the last 6 years, which I don't know why you/they are. Kane and Panarin are both over 1ppg in their career, Marchand isn't.
@@Speednote10 marchand’s career is a lot longer than panarin’s. And in the case of Kane, maybe marchand is better than him now, not in my opinion though. No ones disputing that Kane’s had the far better career.
"elite defensive game" *line changes during a 1 on *
Marchand's 5v5 defense statistics aren't elite, they are OK. But his PK statistics are one of the best in the league.
I mean... how elite defensively is he though? He plays on a line with 4x selke winner patrice bergeron
Thank you Corwin for giving Marchand the respect he deserves!
This conversation just shows how underrated he still is by some people. He's on track to finish 5 straight seasons at a 100-point pace. He's been an elite penalty killer, has had Selke-caliber defence his whole career and also has a Cup. He's a lock.
Not gonna lie, Marchy and Bergy are lying under the radar a little bit. Marchy for all the reasons you stated in the vid, in addition to his short handed magic. And Bergy for his outstanding defensive style of play, which sort of prevents him from putting up those big numbers like his line mates. Also, his faceoff percentage is CRAZY good, and I think winning face offs is a very underrated stat, as winning a huge faceoff helps your team gain possession and score a goal
don't think either are "under the radar". Every hockey fan that isn't a casual knows how good they are.
people always put bergeron with the other top centres of the league in their conversations wich he deserves but i don't feel he's underrated... marchand not be considered enough for the players he's become in last few years (wich is one the best player of the league). Altough as an habs fan i hate him.
Bergeron is always in Selke talk and has won multiple. That’s not under the radar.
Bergy is the furthest thing from under the radar, he's actually so "underrated" by wanna quirky fans who want to prove how hardcore they are that he's become overrated. He's an outstanding defensive forward which I think will get him into the hall of fame, but fans are so quick to call him underrated and even say outrageous garbage like him being better than Crosby or Mackinnon (spoiler alert: he's not) that the pendulum has swung the other way that I'd call him overrated before I'd call him underrated.
Also, ask The Hockey Guy ... he knows that Marchand is the engine of that team, Jesse knows it
He is but i wouldn't treat the hockey guys opinions on anything like they are actually fact.
@@Gl-my8fw No, but he is a guy who watches every game - and really notices those things
yeah, should definitely be on the bruins ring or honor or whatever the heck they use. Doesnt make him a hall of famer. Even if he gets to 1k points (probably will), that along with 1 stanley cup and no personal awards, i just dont see it
Leading active players in career SHGs. He’s the 🐐
I don’t like the guy but I don’t think there’s any doubt he’s a hall of famer. Especially if he has a few more quality seasons.
There's plenty of doubt. Zero individual awards, and my biggest issue with him is he was never a point per game player until Pastrnak showed up. Really makes me wonder how much of his production can be attributed to him, and how much is because he's had the entire second half of his career playing next to one of the what, top 5-10 best goal scorers in the league. His career high was 61, then Pasta shows up and it's 85-85-100-87. And he's still not a point per game player, yet has more than 1 penalty minute per game, plus the controversy surrounding him that rubs a lot of people the wrong way. He has a case for sure, but there's a lot of doubt
@@joshg1845 if draisaitl ever comes up for hall of fame discussion, are you gonna use the same logic your using now and hold it against him that he played a long time with mcdavid?
@@JeffONeillOverdrive No because they haven't been linemates for the entirety of Draisaitl's HoF level production. A better comparison for Draisaitl is Malkin, who is a 100% no doubt HoFer. Draisaitl isn't there yet but he's on his way just needs some postseason success. And Draisaitl started hitting a point per game at 23, Marchy didn't do it til 28 (so much later than most guys naturally develop, meaning some external factors- ie Pastrnak-were likely involved).
@@joshg1845Marchand was held back for years based on Claude Julian’s system which prioritized low scoring. Marchand blossomed as soon as Julian was let go
For me he is a lock for the HOF, his play over the last 6 or 7 years has been dominant, and for me he is unequiable the Bruins MVP. His 2 way game is also really good, as seen by his Short Handed Goals, he could/should have 2 or 3 Selke's. Corwin is also right that he provides something different to the game, he has been dirty but he is a great pest and provides fight, and real energy to his team.
Marchand was used poorly by Claude Julien. His career took off after Julien was fired. He could have been easily a point per game player for his whole career if not for Julien holding him back. He's also won everything you can win as far as team championships go: World Hockey Championships gold, World Cup of Hockey gold (plus tourney leading goal scorer), 2 World Jr. gold medals, and a Stanley Cup. Only reason for no individual awards is because the hockey media punish him for being too controversial. Easy Hall of Famer!
Marchand's offensive skill is undeniable but what really sets him apart from others in the the same tier is his defensive ability. Him and Bergeron are the best PK duo in the modern era, and their 5 on 5 defensive numbers are absurd. Marchand alone has more shorthanded goals in the last few years than some teams do. He plays one of the best 2-way games of anyone.
Brad is the best two way winger in the game and has been for probably 5 years. He's been more deserving of a Selke than Bergeron for awhile. It's pretty offensive that last year a winger got into the final three and it was Stone over Marchand. I mean no offense to Stone but Marchand is elite two ways. He should be in that conversation every season. If the press didn't hate him he'd have won multiple individual awards by now. As it stands because he's hated the only awards he can win would be uncontestable ones or maybe an overwhelming playoff performance could get him a Conn Smythe (though I'd assume they'd pull a Crosby of Kessel situation and give that to Bergeron also regardless of numbers).
@@exturkconner you lost me at more deserving than Bergeron for a Selke, that's absolutely ridiculous. I'm a Bruins fan, love Marchands game, but Bergeron's been the best for the last 10 seasons. If anything, Bergeron has been robbed of more Selkes.
@@1shotlegend Yeah I didn't lose you were lost before we started the conversation.
@@exturkconner nah he's right. Marchand's two way game is elite but Bergeron might be the best defensive forward of all time. I mean just look at the advanced stats he has for this season, he is a tier above anyone else in the league.
a lot of people overlook the fact that Marchand is also one of the best all around players we have in the league. He leads the bruins all time in shorthanded goals, and in overtime goals. he is always one of our best back checkers and he's always been great defensively along with a great physical game too. he can do everything and he does everything easy HOF.
I’m so glad that a leafs fan is talking good about marchy
In reference to the title- why is this a question? Marchand is definitely a HOFer.
Was about to write that
Usually the great players that are garbage people dont make it.
because Marchand is hated league wide so the question would pop up. but his skill is undoubtable
@@headintheclouds6935 there are better players that never got in.
@@Gl-my8fw I don't think you can name a single player who was better two way that didn't make it in.
Why are the whole episodes not put on RUclips? I would prefer that personally
They’re on Spotify
@@Ibelikemj I know, but the whole episodes don't get uploaded as a video itself is what I'm saying
@@Stoney037 Yeah it makes no sense.
@@Ibelikemj This episode isn't even on Spotify yet.
Nuge is underrated
The man has 33 shorthanded goals and is a total stud defensively. That's on top of having some of the best LW production in the league.
If the Hall is meant to be only for point production and hardware then I get your guy's arguments, but I'm hoping it's not that shallow.
The bottom line is he has a huge impact on helping Boston win games over the years.
Habs fan here. Hate the Bruins. He is absolutely one of the best all around players I have ever seen. Watch him and you will understand how incredible he is. How he makes everyone better. If you know hockey. You will know how great he is.
brad marchand is like barry bonds. great players, but because the media hates them, they dont get the recognition they deserve
Marchand is also an underrated defensive winger and I think, offensive-wise, his career comps to Martin St. Louis.
Better than MSL
Relax, MSL has a hart, a Pearson, 2 art Ross, an Olympic gold, none of which brad has. He also has over 250 more points than him, which brad could get, but he still hasn’t.
@@chasehull3818Marchand does have an Olympic gold he scored the game winner…..
He definitely should make it
I love Brad Marchand so much! He is my favorite player. I hope he gets into the HOF because he does deserve it imo
He is a lowlife p.o.s as a person though and He has never even won any awards
@@Gl-my8fw cry harder
@@davidz.5852 not crying it os just a fact. If someone ended his career with a cheapshot it would be his own fault
@@Gl-my8fw cup
@@Gl-my8fw He's a genuinely good dude off the ice. He's done more for his community than you could ever dream of accomplishing.
this is my favorite bardown video 1000%
I love Jesse’s take on Marchand punching Jarry 😂 that’s how it goes, if you talk shit you better be prepared to lose some chiclets
Jesse is bringing the heat like Marchand's twitter account!
The portion when jesse said Olympic gold and there was the asterisk that said world cup of hockey gold is partially true, because he also has an Olympic gold aswell
Not even a question He is absolutely one of the most dominant players in the league
It’s actually a good question.
Show me awards......
Show me 50 goal seasons
Show me multiple 100 point seasons
Good thing they won that game 7 in Van....
Choke artist.
@@jogendron6320well he's going to hit over 1,000 games and over a thousand points. He has a Stanley Cup under his belt. And he's been regarded "the most impactful player in the NHL" for years
Look up all the interviews of players talking about Brad Marchand..
Players and coaches don't hate Brad marchand-the media and fair weather fans do.
A lot of fans don't realize that Brad Marchand says things on Twitter to call out the NHL. He stands up for all hockey players.
He spoke out against NHL banning and players from participating in Beijing Olympics. And it wasn't about him-it's valuable international and European playing experience that enhances careers
Younger players like Jeremy swayman, we're counting on Olympic participation to get that experience. Jeremy's kind of screwed now... But Brad Marchand spoke up.
He's not a divisive player, he did a hell of a job leaving the Bruins to win the first three out of four games against the Panthers.
Patrice Bergeron returns from injury and we proceed to lose two out of the three games along with our dignity pride and grit..
Everyone wants him on their team.
You guys should do an episode with The Hockey Guy, he's ledgendary
Marchand is like Corey Perry (though Corey has more hardware to make him viable for the HoF)... People love to hate him, but when he's on your team you love him. If Marchand (or Perry) played for the Leafs - he'd have a statue there
Naw id still hate him
@@ontaranormal2261 You wouldn't though
@@elwizschold if i was on the same team as him id hate him
@@ontaranormal2261 HAHAHAHA! You'd tie his skates... everybody who's been on his team (including Sid the Kid) has nothing bad to say about him. So that might say more about you
@@elwizschold no i can assure you id be the one scrapping him every practice. Im not Crosby im me , play like a dirt ball get treated like one
i love the bruins talk finally LMAO
agreed
They’re talking about how much they love him do they forget all his dirty plays like elbowing Johansson in the back of the head after the play was well over
Yes, absolutely, Marchand belongs in the HHOF.
Saying this as a leafs fan
@@tml184being top 3 in the entire league in scoring over a 5 year period with great defense with 33 short handed goals and a cup isn’t hof to you especially when reaches both 1,000 milestones
If Marchand or Wilson was in Toronto, Corwin would be salivating over him. Change my mind
Corwin was praising Marchand already lol
Marchand is the MVP of the Bruins. Jess was absolutely spot on.
Shotout Luca with the Sirius sweater, what a legend! Podfoot for life
“I think we can all agree that Philip Danault is underrated”
When Marchand is injured , Boston does not succeed as much , He is the most valuable Bruin and has been for quite some time
Corwin, " I felt that he (Brad Marchland) got alot of hate for punching that goalie in the head ". Are you serious?! Do you not know who Tristan Jarry is?! Have you seen his average saving points? Plus the fact that Brad keep skating over to him and punching him multiple times during that game, he deserves to be bench for a couple of games. It wasn't just once. Also, you are telling me that if someone keep punching Vince in the face, you wouldn't want the ref to penalize that player?! Corwin you are crazy! I totally agree with Luca and DZ. Thanks Luca and DZ! Sincerely- A Penguin fan.
Top 5 pts getter in the league whilst also being one of the best penalty killers in the game period. His skating is so underrated… I agree though that he needs to keep it up for another 3 or so years to be in the HOF picture and have less of the silly stuff
they said whole resume, sooo world junior gold, stanley cup, world cup- and up to this point top ten winger and has a potential to win a second cup.
Good argument but you’re forgetting Marchand has also been the best defensive winger in the nhl since 2013
Hahahahahahahahaha
Marian Hossa is a 1st ballot HOF.
🤦🏻♂️
Alex Tuch should have the C, Olofsson A And Asplund A
Jesse is such an effective contrarian lol
I’m a Leafs fan and yes he is 100%, it’s not even a question.
Brad is my favorite player
Dumb question, of course he is.
Low key I watched the sabres game against the avs and they made some great plays. Talking about the one with tage’s hatty.
the reason why everyone went nuts about the punching with the glove is because IT HURTS MORE WITH THE GLOVE ON THEN OFF! That's why it was a dangerous play because u can hurt a player more by punching them with the glove then without. Why do u think they take the gloves off when fighting?
I was thinking that same thing, punches with the gloves on lowkey hurt more
Alex Mogilny is a triple gold club member, more than a point a game player, and has 1000 points. Marchand probably hits 1000 points but will never have the career point a game mark. If Mogilny is not a HOFer, neither is Marchand.
Besides that 76 goal season mogilney was not as dominant as Marchand is now
Marchand should've been World Cup of Hockey MVP, change my mind.
Who cares?
Change my mind.
Well he's going to hit 1,000 games and 1,000 points. He has been "unofficially" voted the most impactful player in the NHL for years.
Any of the Hurricanes. All underrated.
You guys were so close to talking about Danault and the Kings! Please, talk about the Pacific division a little bit! Kings are on a 20 game streak of outshooting their opponents, approaching the NHL record!
Hey! We definitely talk about Danault and the Kings in the full (audio) version of the podcast which I just put out this morning!
@@samgliserman Hey, thanks!
Everyone hates Marchand until he’s on their team
if Mcdavid and Draisaitl are considered locks why isn't Marchand? Sure they score a lot but they dont win.. Marchand has won and is scoring almost as much as those top players and continues to get better (and more entertaining) has he gets older and he improves the team he's on.
Winning what? Boston won 12 years ago and Marchand was Bruins 6th-7th most important player that playoff. How many forwards are inducted without a single individual award and 26 players ahead of them with a better P/GP? 31 players in playoffs. Comparing him to the greatest talent since Lemieux is stupid
McDavid has awards.
You know like MVPs, Art Ross.
What does Marchy have?
Any 50 goal season?
1000 points soon?
Rocket Richard?
ConnSmythe?
Selke?
I’ll pass.
Ohhh yeah they won that game 7 in Van. Congrats you didn’t choke on that one, you played bigger choke artists!
great quiz idea naming all of the players on the cover of the nhl video games.
They have done that I'm pretty sure.
I know Z mentioned this during the conversation but man was this conversation just a constant circle. It was like all of them saying the exact same thing 5 times in a row maybe in a slightly different way. Overall I think I’m on team Z and Luca. Very good player, but there’s tons of very good players not in the Hall of Fame. Right now I say he doesn’t make it in. Please don’t try and argue because I guarantee no reply to this comment will give me any further argument against this as I’ve already listened to this entire conversation. Lol
100%. First ballot too
Just saying a lot of those guys had like 600 more games than points and quite a few of those guys weren't the greatest people that caused reasons for them to not be put in the Hall of Fame
first bruins fan here
second bruin fan here
For real though, how do people keep talking about the punch, AND FORGET THAT HE SPEARED HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE ON THE WAY TO THE BOX????
I’m having trouble concentrating on the video with Corwin looking like John Travolta’s hair double on a straight to video late sequel to “Grease”.
And Jesse’s not helping his cause by backing him up as clear attempt at Kinickie.
Joe pavelski 💯% is the most underrated player in the league
Post full episodes please
z pretending he’s not a sabres fan is like me pretending i’m not a leafs fan. just buy in already
Clayton Keller is a million times underrated.
I love how corwin brought up Phillip danault he was the habs best center and they let him go now look where there at hope Martin stlouis can make a team out of them again not saying Suzuki isn't good he's just the main piece of a habs team that made it to the Stanley cup finals last year also Josh Anderson is another good hab
One thing that is getting overlooked is that it's called the Hall of FAME. There's no denying how famous Marchand is for being a rat while simultaneously being good at the game.
Obviously I’m biased but as this comment section has said. He’s an amazing 2 way player. I respect the devils advocate but he should be in the hall of fame almost no doubt
Ok Mr Bias
Achievements?
None.
Pass.
@@jogendron6320 cup winner, 4 time all star, top 10 in hart voting 4 times, something multiple hall of famers have never even received a single vote for. Youre entitled to your own opinion but if he was on your favorite team I’m sure you’d feel differently
Totally agree with Jesse!
With out a doubt. I have hated him playing against my team for years. If not for is accolades he will be known for how he played the game. I do not use the word SUPER STAR lightly. Only a handful of players in my humble opinion deserved to be so named. He is one who has maintained a very high level of play. He has recently dropped from being a super star, but still very good. Besides I think he has won more than many in the Hall anyway. Love him on my team and hate to play against. LITTLE BALL OF HATE. One of my favorite players.
My opinion.... Conor sheary. Dude is so underrated its ridiculous.
Almost as in the skateboard brand ? 10/10
Luca... McKinnon has won a Calder, Lady Byng, has been nominated for the Hart. Just needs a cup and some full seasons to try for a scoring title.
We need a Grit Award in the NHL for hard working pain in the asses. Name it after some legend like Claude Lemieux or someone...give the guys like Tha-chuk and Brad Marchy-pants something to fight over mid season.
With the way Matthews is playing, could he be seriously considered to win the hart?
DZ acting like he’s just a regular PPG player.
Yeah I cringed when he said that lol
If you put a guy like Ingila into the hof, then Marchand nomination is a cake walk.
Hahaha
Iginla was way better than Marchand.
Over 500 goals.
And he played in the dead puck era. Won the Art Ross award for most points without reaching 100 points. Won the Rocket Richard.
One inch away from a Connie Smythe that Marchand never sniffed.
You’re on drugs.
Marshy is unbelievable
You’ve got to admit, Pastrnak in very underrated, but Marchand got to get love from fans for literally licking people in fights .
yes he will be but he I don't think he deserves it, a lot players don't , the HOF is too inclusive, it should be a middle ground between what it currently is and the MLB. not every very good or even great player needs to make it, its the hall of fame not hall of very good
Brad Marchand reminds me of Claude Lemieux because they're both good but their bad stuff outshines their on ice accomplishments.
Marchand is 100% the better player.
People will think Marchand is a dirty player and doesnt deserve to be in the league and shit like that, then turn around and praise Chris Pronger for being one of the best players of his generation
biased but no one ever talks about Marchand's passing ability. His vision is (in my biased humbled opinion) on par with Crosby. People wanna talk about his antics but it's all in his mind. Marchand being a smaller player refuses to be bullied. Not to mention being one of the greatest penalty killing forwards ever with his buddy Bergeron. Put the kid in, he's the complete package and any of you would take this guy in a heartbeat. He is the heart and soul of the Bruins.
10:55 what was that
I met him once. He seems like a genuinely nice guy off the ice. Would love to have him in Tampa.
Brad Marchand is a lock
Barzal in the Hall?
Yes of course and I’m from Montreal
4:28 brad Marchand was arguably cheated out of 2 maybe even 3 hart trophy races
Should Doug Weight be in the Hall?
No
Yes and it’s not a question
My sources say yes
Right now: not a HoF
But he has more potential to make it than Bergeron. Huge Bruins fan too. His Penalty Kill is so impressive and he is a Bruins HoFer for sure
bergeron is a lock as well.
Not a chance Marchand has more potential to make it than Bergeron. Bergeron is a lock. 4 Selkes, a Cup, Triple Gold Club and he will finish his career with over 1000 points. I would say Marchand is a 50/50. Depends on how he finishes his career.
Get number 2 from your Pittsburgh penguins. Chad Ruhwedel in the HOF. Pens LEGEND
Brads a hall of famor period
@@tml184 Stanley cup champion. In the top five for points since 2018. He’s a hall of famer
Another question is Marchand the best player from the 2006 draft? I think he might be
Toews Backstrom Giroux
All better.
Whens the next podcast?
Marchard should be in the hall off frame.. He does some stupit things all around game he is good
He’s a great photograph I heard, not sure if he’s Hall off frame though.
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I just started watching these videos so idk if these are highlights of a stream but if not would be cool to livestream and as wel maybe have some fans leave some opinions that you guys can bounce stuff off of like give people the scoop of what your gonna talk about before dropping and recording the video