I love Scott's videos, I believe Scott is the single most impactful person on the history of disc golf outside Ed Headrick, when you add up all the factors that you can as a player and as an ambassador.
I had the problem of looking forwards too early, which also made my shoulders rotate open too early. Someone mentioned on a dg forum to do practice swings looking at your reflection in a mirror, and don't break eye contact until the disc is gone and your follow-through brings your head up. I think that helps. On the course I have to imagine the same thing. Also helps me from not falling over my brace.
As a 30 year Wildland Firefighter, with 7 screws in my back, you R absolutely correct, your head can lead your shoulders, hence shoulders in front of your hips, over throwing, low shot, Scott thank U so very much, I've been throwing since 91, luv U brother, disc golf and being a Firefighter is my life, no matter what each of U do in life , disc golf without conviction, has touched every aspect of my life, live luv and always be an advocate and promote disc golf in your area, again thank U so very much Scott, for everything
The logic and mechanics King imo....He knows if you do the wind up, get the body moving correctly, and pull in the timely way he describes....you move the disc appropriately.....It just goes against your mind, your logic to believe you are blind as you throw...but it works....Have the faith to try what he says....Great stuff Scott, always great stuff.
Hello Scott, I got to meet you along time ago when you were on the top of your game. It was at my Original home town course in High Point North Carolina at "Oak Hollow" Johnson Street Park. You were demonstrating sidearm and backhand throwing. It was a pleasure. I went on to make some really big sidearm long-distance aces in my day. In pdga tournaments and fun rounds back when there were just a handful of side armers. I'm glad to see your keeping it real. And playing big tournaments again. I wish you well. Great videos. I'm still learning from you. Hope to see you when you come through North carolina. Thanks Simmer
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I literally just did mock run-ups in my kitchen, and saw it right as you said it! Wow! So simple yet mind-blowing. 🙏❤️
Thank you very much, I struggled with the anticipated rotation of the hips, I knew of that but I didn't succeed in avoiding this mistake... And yes! A great part of the problem was the anticipated rotation of my head!
Thanks Scott! Someone once told me I should always look where I’m throwing. I could have miss understood them, maybe they meant on a stand still. I’ll work on this & see how it goes when I do some field work. Thanks for being THE MAN!
A couple thoughts: 1) It might be worth mentioning whether this is true for upshots. It seems more reasonable that when you're only throwing 50-60% power on a standstill shot, you might be able to more or less keep your head forward. 2) I think I'm still learning remove any need to look at the target. But I do think there is a learning curve there. I'm pretty decent at visualizing my shot and taking into account the way that particular disc flies. But then when I turn away from my target, that mental picture can sometimes get lost, and it can be hard to throw the shot I envisioned. So for me, I've had to get better at maintaining that mental picture of my shot so that I can throw it even while looking away. It's one of those areas where you have to have confidence, but you won't find that confidence until you've tried it a bunch and it starts working out.
Maybe an idea, depending on the disc type, illustration cheet sheet on basic throw mechanics, for reminders to form techiques with of course usual flight numbers.
Scott, if you happen to make it to the beautiful State of Wisconsin this summer (2024) it would be great to get a one hour lesson and maybe play the hardest 9 hole course that hardly anyone knows about
Totally agree with the advice about the physical stuff. I disagree with one thing though .There's definitely one thing above your neck aiding your throw and it leads to making good decisions.
25 years ago Randy Lahm told me the key to a good 360 throw was to lay your head on your shoulder... and he lives in a house! I think I was punked long ago. Thanks for setting me straight! All kidding aside, stellar content as usual :)
I've bought 2 of each of disc and like them a lot. Have disided on flight numbers for your disc? If so could you share those numbers? Thanks again for all you do!
Played a round today and focused on not looking at the target and letting my head follow my shoulder, and I did indeed throw a good 40’ farther on tee shots with no other changes. Where do I send the tip money?
You got that right. My head does nothing and by association my brain. It's the strangest thing. Did I tie my shoes this morning or didn't I. You can throw as far as you think you can. I am 1500 foot thrower.😉
Ok so my first reaction to counter this would be to ensure that my head is further back during my reach back and release. But you mention that would cause problems too. I don't really know what position my head needs to be in when throwing. I'll try not to keep my eyes locked on my target once I start my reach back. Should I just fix my eyes on the disc in my hand? I have a ton of mechanical problems BTW. I know this because I've been playing for 20+ years and probably only average 250 feet on my drives. I know, embarrassing right? I want to improve but I feel like I have so many bad habits and I've been throwing this way for so long......would be much easier if I was just starting out rather than trying to "unlearn" bad habits. I know I likely tense my arm up too much when throwing. Always was told to grip the disc hard and when I do my pull, I should grip it so hard that my pull should "rip" the disc out of my hand. In other words I shouldn't consciously try to release the disc, rather it should rip from my hand on my throw. This may be bad info, no clue, it's just what I've always heard needs to happen.
Your shoulders will turn the head for you. Your line is determined by your footwork and timing. Every time you miss your line on the lateral it's because of timing(miss left - early hit, miss right - late hit) incorrect disc choice, or poor eyesight having a negative influence in choosing what you think is going to be your line.
I watched a guy throw yesterday bc he was by himself and we had 3 ppl. Watched his almost perfect form, and we finally figured out what we had been doing wrong and immediately gained 50-100 ft on our throws smh
I love Scott's videos, I believe Scott is the single most impactful person on the history of disc golf outside Ed Headrick, when you add up all the factors that you can as a player and as an ambassador.
I had the problem of looking forwards too early, which also made my shoulders rotate open too early. Someone mentioned on a dg forum to do practice swings looking at your reflection in a mirror, and don't break eye contact until the disc is gone and your follow-through brings your head up. I think that helps. On the course I have to imagine the same thing. Also helps me from not falling over my brace.
As a 30 year Wildland Firefighter, with 7 screws in my back, you R absolutely correct, your head can lead your shoulders, hence shoulders in front of your hips, over throwing, low shot, Scott thank U so very much, I've been throwing since 91, luv U brother, disc golf and being a Firefighter is my life, no matter what each of U do in life , disc golf without conviction, has touched every aspect of my life, live luv and always be an advocate and promote disc golf in your area, again thank U so very much Scott, for everything
The logic and mechanics King imo....He knows if you do the wind up, get the body moving correctly, and pull in the timely way he describes....you move the disc appropriately.....It just goes against your mind, your logic to believe you are blind as you throw...but it works....Have the faith to try what he says....Great stuff Scott, always great stuff.
Hello Scott, I got to meet you along time ago when you were on the top of your game. It was at my Original home town course in High Point North Carolina at "Oak Hollow" Johnson Street Park. You were demonstrating sidearm and backhand throwing. It was a pleasure. I went on to make some really big sidearm long-distance aces in my day. In pdga tournaments and fun rounds back when there were just a handful of side armers. I'm glad to see your keeping it real. And playing big tournaments again. I wish you well. Great videos. I'm still learning from you. Hope to see you when you come through North carolina.
Thanks
Simmer
My wife says my head does nothing already, so I'm set! 😂
Oof!
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I literally just did mock run-ups in my kitchen, and saw it right as you said it! Wow! So simple yet mind-blowing. 🙏❤️
Thank you very much, I struggled with the anticipated rotation of the hips, I knew of that but I didn't succeed in avoiding this mistake... And yes! A great part of the problem was the anticipated rotation of my head!
as always, scott, i thank you. you are always welcome to play Gandhi's Path when you are in CO!
Great Tip!! I’ve always heard different suggestions on this but it makes more sense the way you explain it.
Your videos are so good, thanks. I really appreciate them!
Thanks Scott! Someone once told me I should always look where I’m throwing. I could have miss understood them, maybe they meant on a stand still. I’ll work on this & see how it goes when I do some field work. Thanks for being THE MAN!
For standstills,especially in the
Fantastic info Scott, Thanks!
Love the plastic on the Wren. 3/4/-2/1
also, good tips in this video, thank you
A couple thoughts:
1) It might be worth mentioning whether this is true for upshots. It seems more reasonable that when you're only throwing 50-60% power on a standstill shot, you might be able to more or less keep your head forward.
2) I think I'm still learning remove any need to look at the target. But I do think there is a learning curve there. I'm pretty decent at visualizing my shot and taking into account the way that particular disc flies. But then when I turn away from my target, that mental picture can sometimes get lost, and it can be hard to throw the shot I envisioned. So for me, I've had to get better at maintaining that mental picture of my shot so that I can throw it even while looking away. It's one of those areas where you have to have confidence, but you won't find that confidence until you've tried it a bunch and it starts working out.
Maybe an idea, depending on the disc type, illustration cheet sheet on basic throw mechanics, for reminders to form techiques with of course usual flight numbers.
Scott, if you happen to make it to the beautiful State of Wisconsin this summer (2024) it would be great to get a one hour lesson and maybe play the hardest 9 hole course that hardly anyone knows about
Totally agree with the advice about the physical stuff. I disagree with one thing though .There's definitely one thing above your neck aiding your throw and it leads to making good decisions.
Good stuff Scott!
Have you decided the flight numbers for the cardinal and wren?
"Your head can only get in the way"
Sorry of my life, man... Story of my life.
Same here man... Wait which head?
@@jimmyjam-vc6rfif you're like me..
. Both.
Got a ticket to your clinic at Art Dye! I’m bringing my Stokely Discs!
Imma tell my kids you are Disc golf Yoda.
Scott is way too tall to be Yoda xD
25 years ago Randy Lahm told me the key to a good 360 throw was to lay your head on your shoulder... and he lives in a house! I think I was punked long ago. Thanks for setting me straight! All kidding aside, stellar content as usual :)
Randy Lahm is the man!!! He will make you feel like a beginner.. lol.
I've bought 2 of each of disc and like them a lot. Have disided on flight numbers for your disc? If so could you share those numbers? Thanks again for all you do!
Submit your flight numbers to flightnumbers.stokelydiscs.com
Played a round today and focused on not looking at the target and letting my head follow my shoulder, and I did indeed throw a good 40’ farther on tee shots with no other changes. Where do I send the tip money?
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You got that right. My head does nothing and by association my brain. It's the strangest thing. Did I tie my shoes this morning or didn't I. You can throw as far as you think you can. I am 1500 foot thrower.😉
I watch all kinds of cooking shows so you think I am a good cook. Decidedly no!
Ok so my first reaction to counter this would be to ensure that my head is further back during my reach back and release. But you mention that would cause problems too. I don't really know what position my head needs to be in when throwing. I'll try not to keep my eyes locked on my target once I start my reach back. Should I just fix my eyes on the disc in my hand? I have a ton of mechanical problems BTW. I know this because I've been playing for 20+ years and probably only average 250 feet on my drives. I know, embarrassing right? I want to improve but I feel like I have so many bad habits and I've been throwing this way for so long......would be much easier if I was just starting out rather than trying to "unlearn" bad habits. I know I likely tense my arm up too much when throwing. Always was told to grip the disc hard and when I do my pull, I should grip it so hard that my pull should "rip" the disc out of my hand. In other words I shouldn't consciously try to release the disc, rather it should rip from my hand on my throw. This may be bad info, no clue, it's just what I've always heard needs to happen.
I understand the head aspect, i just struggle with the aiming since I'm not looking
Great video
Thx!
Do you ever do clinics in Georgia??
I would also advocate keeping the head down through impact/release instead of 'peeking' early
Your shoulders will turn the head for you. Your line is determined by your footwork and timing. Every time you miss your line on the lateral it's because of timing(miss left - early hit, miss right - late hit) incorrect disc choice, or poor eyesight having a negative influence in choosing what you think is going to be your line.
"Always shop local" --- I wish I could!
I watched a guy throw yesterday bc he was by himself and we had 3 ppl. Watched his almost perfect form, and we finally figured out what we had been doing wrong and immediately gained 50-100 ft on our throws smh
But I only have 2 feets?
I always say that I throw it better when I dont look where I'm throwing. 😂
I feel like wysocki throws the disc with his head
The head does nothing. “Nothing up here is helping the throw” I think that can be used physically and mentally.
Head over heart, heart over hips.
Why should I take advice from someone who doesn't throw 1700 feet?! ;)
I've watched so many videos that I throw 2000.