V-break (sort of) could happen only if the bow was still floatable instead of entirely filled of water at the time of the breakup. But if the bow was still floatable, the ship would not have sunk in first place.
@@andreabindolini7452 So it was like "The ship splits at low angle, around 11 degrees. As it crack, the crack stops at double bottom, which holds the both ship together. Middle structure of the ship fails and bends extremely inward, bending the Titanic like the letter "V", and caused the bow to appear again to the surface." I mean, how, a bow that has been fully submerged and flooded, can appear again on water??
1912-1984 one piece 1985 high angle break 1997 47° high angle 2012 23°(not high and breaks at front of the third funnel and second funnel dint fall and dint go verticall) 2016 21° degress second funnel explodes 2021 22° degrees and super structure destroyed when break up
I believe in a less terrible version of the v-break, it doesn’t have a actual name considering I came up with it just now. I believe that the stern actually did push the bow slightly, not enough to actually push it out of the water, but enough to lighten how much it was tilting so it would be easier to stabilize its self
my split theory:so basically, the titanic superstructure fell then split in front of the 3rd funnel, causing it to be very unstable and the 4th funnel ropes were detached, causing it to still be stable but collapsed when it plunged, and the bow was still connected through the double hull at the bottom, then it pulled the stern up, causing it to plunge down under the waves.
Titanic DID V-break but the bow never surfaced, what are those people on to think that somehow the extremly un-boyant bow went to the surface *S I G H*
I have a less terrible V-break theory, Here it is. The ship had stress at the keel earlier in the sinking. When the ship split, the keel split aswell. Once the bow pulled the stern under, the stern ploughed into the bow's superstructure. Therefore causing a v-break. When the ship's stern began ploughing into the bow, the bow got pushed upwards. Resulting in the 2nd and 3rd funnel colliding. The keel then finally gave way, and the stern began sinking.
Bottom up and inward buckling of the keel is easly to understand once you think of the Titanic as a hollow metal box tube and not a wooden stick or a banana. Steel is going to buckle inward on the compression side of a bend before it tears on the tensile side.
High angle break is out because max break stress is at low angle. Filling from early midpoint bottom opening is out because that would reduce break stress. Tensile break starting at boat deck is out because of high strength of shear line structure. That only leaves bottom crush and that matches evidence in debris field.
@@Dumderg Its like pulling a bucket full of water (hole side down) OUT OF the water. It doesnt have any buoyancy, so its super heavy when you pull it out.
Every animation I've seen of Titanic breakup theories misses the deformation of the cross section that occurred. Take the paper tube from a roll of paper towels and bend it. The cross section ovals so that it is shorter in the direction of the plane of the bend. This will happen with any thin-wall tube regardless of whether it is circular or rectangular in cross section. If you look at images of the wreckage on the ocean floor, you will see that the upper decks were pulled downward and the sides of the hull bulged outward.
Woahhhh the 2012 split one looks and seems to function exactly like the current theory, Bottom up/top down break and the third funnel tower falling, what were the physics setting ???
my split theory:so basically, the titanic superstructure fell then split in front of the 3rd funnel, causing it to be very unstable and the 4th funnel ropes were detached, causing it to still be stable but collapsed when it plunged, and the bow was still connected through the double hull at the bottom, then it pulled the stern up, causing it to plunge down under the waves.
Its physically impossible. The stern section was filled with air, because all the water entered the ship too fast, and air was left in small pockets causing an implosion. because of how light air is The pressure of the deep sea, would destroy the bow if there was air inside. Henceforth why the stern looks like a bad day at taco bell and the Bow looks good enough for the break up you can never really know a person do you.
The V-Break doesn't make sense, due to the laws of physics, but let me explain why I don't understand the Roy Mengot Theory. If the ship broke between the 2nd and 3rd funnel, then the stern section would be significantly longer, since they have measured the two pieces, and the small part the broke off with the actual snapping would be gone from the stern, but it is not. For this, I will always support the 1995 James Cameron theory, or, the High Angle Break. It just makes the most sense to me. Call me a Titanic Geek or something all you want, but that is how I think it sank.
I see your point. The Mengot theory, as depicted in my video and many others, was more violent than could be shown. The entire area just aft of funnel 2 and forward of funnel 4 was almost obliterated by the breakup. The forward and aft towers had enough structural integrity to keep together until the impact with the seafloor. I understand why you prefer to follow the 1995 theory, but a growing number of people are accepting the newer Mengot theory. Neither is correct or wrong since we'll never know how the ship failed. As such, I will not say you are wrong.
As i note in this list, high angle break is wrong….take extreme high angle, with hull near vertical before break. That puts entire hull into longitudinal compression or tendion depending on distance from bow. Bending moment on hull is near zero. So if hull broke, as it clearly did, from bending, that is most likely at low angle and not when ship is standing on end or nearly on end. Bow filled, bottom crushed, shear strake was last to break. Thats why sides bulge out and bow deck was pulled down at break. Hey! Here is great idea….whyn’t we build a submerse and look at it ourselves? We can make sub out of a carbon fiber tube. We will take wealthy tourists down and make a fortune!
None of us were there so we will probably never know for sure how it really sank. Even the survivors who seen it sink couldn’t agree how it happened. Some said it sank in 1 piece while others just said it broke in two. The wireless operator drew the v break. This argument on how it sank has been going on for over 100 years and it probably won’t stop anytime soon.
@@zhackiethedog yeah, everyone, i mean, literally everyone knew that the titanic have broken in two pieces, and also, there was a bunch of theories taking about how the titanic have split in two
The only way a v-break would be even slightly possible, is if the titanic hit the iceberg as normal, but didn’t head to port fast enough and puncture a massive hole around midship.
The one piece theory doesn't make the funnels collapse or anything, unless you are talking about the "A Night To Remember" one, that had only the fourth funnel collapse. And i know, i'm 1 year late
I believe the ship broke between the 3rd and 4th funnel because the bow has 3 holes were the 3 funnels once sat and the stern shows only the 4th funnel spot but it tour away during the sinking
I kinda still belive in the v break it but not in the aaron 1912 theory. My theory is the L break, After the 1st 2nd funnel fell, (low angle) there was a boiler explosion, but due to the low angle, the bow was only 10 or 20 meters (the height from the bridge to bow) underwater, so the boilers exploding caused the bow to bob up but not come out of the water, only the mast rises a bit higher above. It breaks bottom to top. The stern goes higher up to a 45 degree angle for a few seconds and then slowls settles down to about a 35 degree angle. Then the ship goes plunges down with a 35 degree angle.
the one-piece theory is true from 1912 to 1985 because from 1912 to 1985 the titanic has not yet been discovered therefor they think it sank in one-piece until the discovery
I watched many funky theories - espercially the V-Break - about the breaking of Titanic when I was in my fifth or sixth grade of my primary school and into Titanic's research by Cameron's movie. (oh you know the young kids need some... "sexual enlightenment", and I heard about that well-known scenes so... Luckily it gave me more "enlightenment" on ship engineering than sexual. ) And I was like, you know, "Why is it so complex? It looks so unnatural for a ship. Why can't the ship just break a part in half, and the hull plates under No.3 funnel just blowed apart by the static and dynamic water pressure or ripped by the stern during sinking?" See Roger Long and Aaron1912, you guys don't even smart and clear than a primary school student.
I personally believe that the ship split in a high angle with it splitting just behind the 3rd funnel, but to be honest I think more people pay attention to how it sank instead of the victims and the true scale of Titanic disaster, for me, I think the victims and survivors are getting underrated and more of this overrated, we should focus more on the people and now how the Titanic really sank, I think we all got an idea how it sank and I see no need to continue.
I think the initial variant of the V break presented in 2006 (NOT the Aron one) didn’t actually have the bow raising from the surface, but somehow that moron’s version basically became the V-Break to end all V-breaks.
I Believe in his theory all the way up until the stern seperates from the bow, in which it takes a great list to port and doesnt go upright. Many survivors state that Titanics stern looked like a big black thumb against the starlight, so It must have at least gone 60-80 degrees upright.
To think, we discover Titanic broke up, and we weren't satisfied, but instead decided to bicker over how EXACTLY the breakup looked like... This is why V-Break theory exists, people. 🤦♂️
I see your point. I will say that due to conflicting testimonies from survivors and the wreck site itself, it's a matter of connecting the dots. V-break and other conspiracies are just from people who either don't understand, are too young, are too brain dead, or are just wanting attention
@@kostan55 ah yes, aint we all? Hey Im a Titanic geek myself who is obsessed with drawing it (and am a pretty good drawer if I do say so myself) and I STILL dont get the point of the breakup theories. It split in half. (Due to strain) period.
As the experts discovered that there was no crushing at the bottom of the ship, but there was at the top, after finding other pieces - footage widely available in documentaries - I suggest you review that before calling people names.
I think you're misconstruing the damage of pulling and stretching with crushing. V-break is physically impossible due to the fact that if the bow is already sinking and flooded, how would breaking the ship in a V result in the bow suddenly regaining buoyancy and rising up? If you're interested in a real good breakdown of why it couldn't work, and how the witness testimony doesn't support a V-break, check ruclips.net/video/NIjw_0K84N0/видео.html
I love the "Never accepted except by morons v-break" XD
Yes you get a pin and a hearth
lol
and plus the *funny* text font
Yep, the V-break was an attack to the physics.
Yep
It's split a bit and water get in then it call v-break
True or not true
V-break (sort of) could happen only if the bow was still floatable instead of entirely filled of water at the time of the breakup. But if the bow was still floatable, the ship would not have sunk in first place.
@@andreabindolini7452 So it was like "The ship splits at low angle, around 11 degrees. As it crack, the crack stops at double bottom, which holds the both ship together. Middle structure of the ship fails and bends extremely inward, bending the Titanic like the letter "V", and caused the bow to appear again to the surface."
I mean, how, a bow that has been fully submerged and flooded, can appear again on water??
Physics:*sees v break theory
Also physics:when was physics invented?
LOL
One Piece Theory : 0:06
High Angle Theory : 1:59
2012 Split Theory : 5:41
V-Split Theory : 8:14
Hello RMS Lusitania!
Hello Britannic
Hello Cap Arcona
@@springfieldrepublic uh Britannic are you still stuck under water from that mine
I love this thread 😂😂
1912-1984 one piece
1985 high angle break
1997 47° high angle
2012 23°(not high and breaks at front of the third funnel and second funnel dint fall and dint go verticall)
2016 21° degress second funnel explodes
2021 22° degrees and super structure destroyed when break up
To think so many bothered to bicker over HOW Titanic's breakup looked like when they discovered it broke. Then V-Break introduces itself...
no, they still go with 23°-24° angle
If you want to see a real V-break, just watch friggin Ice Age 4, the clip where the pirate ship sinks
Lol this deserves a heart
ruclips.net/video/1832KvvNPUU/видео.html I made a vid
@@HANKSANDY69420 child
@@thechangingchannel13 toxic lol
@@HANKSANDY69420 shut up lol
Never knew the Titanic went down to some hard beats.
Oh yeah that band on deck was playing *that* and everyone else is wrong lol
I believe in a less terrible version of the v-break, it doesn’t have a actual name considering I came up with it just now.
I believe that the stern actually did push the bow slightly, not enough to actually push it out of the water, but enough to lighten how much it was tilting so it would be easier to stabilize its self
Interesting...make a video demonstrating it pls
Nice name BTW I like that ship
But the ship in ur profile pic doesn't rlly look like the Teutonic.
@@HANKSANDY69420 it's not teutonic, it's the titanic breakup
@@Randomguy56710 ok and i see it's been changed lol
my split theory:so basically, the titanic superstructure fell then split in front of the 3rd funnel, causing it to be very unstable and the 4th funnel ropes were detached, causing it to still be stable but collapsed when it plunged, and the bow was still connected through the double hull at the bottom, then it pulled the stern up, causing it to plunge down under the waves.
I actually used to belive the Vbreak theory was real.
Man was i a dumbass.
Ey, same here
I used to believe in the V-Break theory at one point
Titanic DID V-break
but the bow never surfaced, what are those people on to think that somehow the extremly un-boyant bow went to the surface
*S I G H*
lol i never believed the v break and prob never will
I used the believe it broke like this ^
0:07 WHITEBEARD: THE ONE PIECE IS REAL!!!!
3:38 pirates: *sniff* *sniff* HEY THAT GIANT DUDE LIED!!!
Really good model used and you do the the one piece theory AMAZING!
I have a less terrible V-break theory,
Here it is.
The ship had stress at the keel earlier in the sinking. When the ship split, the keel split aswell. Once the bow pulled the stern under, the stern ploughed into the bow's superstructure. Therefore causing a v-break. When the ship's stern began ploughing into the bow, the bow got pushed upwards. Resulting in the 2nd and 3rd funnel colliding. The keel then finally gave way, and the stern began sinking.
Bottom up and inward buckling of the keel is easly to understand once you think of the Titanic as a hollow metal box tube and not a wooden stick or a banana. Steel is going to buckle inward on the compression side of a bend before it tears on the tensile side.
I love the V-break part 😂😂😂
3:34 how did you do that?
Probably hiding cursor?
the titanic v-break theory is the maritime equivalent of flat earth
Real
High angle break is out because max break stress is at low angle. Filling from early midpoint bottom opening is out because that would reduce break stress. Tensile break starting at boat deck is out because of high strength of shear line structure. That only leaves bottom crush and that matches evidence in debris field.
"V-Break is plausible"
Gravity and Physics: am i a joke to you?
i actually thought this was sinking simulator lol
same
😂😂😂 same
Same
Floating Sandbox, a more complete version of the original Sinking Simulator from 9 to 10 years ago
@Top Hat TITAN yep
aaron1912 is just the pinnacle of reasons why we...
He's why we haven't seen aliens
9:02 did someone saw in left down corner "what is wrong with people -_-"
The V-Break is now considered and accepted by the Laws of Physics... So there will be more Titanic Drama in the next months.
😱
wait a minute . . . something aint right
the bow cannot come out the water because it doesn't have buoyancy
@@Dumderg exactly
@@Dumderg Its like pulling a bucket full of water (hole side down) OUT OF the water. It doesnt have any buoyancy, so its super heavy when you pull it out.
Every animation I've seen of Titanic breakup theories misses the deformation of the cross section that occurred. Take the paper tube from a roll of paper towels and bend it. The cross section ovals so that it is shorter in the direction of the plane of the bend. This will happen with any thin-wall tube regardless of whether it is circular or rectangular in cross section. If you look at images of the wreckage on the ocean floor, you will see that the upper decks were pulled downward and the sides of the hull bulged outward.
how do i make the ships kinda hard?
Go to settings and turn strength up
Or turn simulation settings up
At the cost of extreme lag
Woahhhh the 2012 split one looks and seems to function exactly like the current theory, Bottom up/top down break and the third funnel tower falling, what were the physics setting ???
thats not how the one piece theory went
my split theory:so basically, the titanic superstructure fell then split in front of the 3rd funnel, causing it to be very unstable and the 4th funnel ropes were detached, causing it to still be stable but collapsed when it plunged, and the bow was still connected through the double hull at the bottom, then it pulled the stern up, causing it to plunge down under the waves.
Even the v break the bow did not go up that much so the v breck is fake
Its physically impossible. The stern section was filled with air, because all the water entered the ship too fast, and air was left in small pockets causing an implosion.
because of how light air is The pressure of the deep sea, would destroy the bow if there was air inside.
Henceforth why the stern looks like a bad day at taco bell and the Bow looks good enough for the break up you can never really know a person do you.
Mmm yess you're the only one who knows physicsssssss
Roy Mengot's theory is just terrifying imagine if I was there on that boat oh lord I'm soooo done...
What’s weird about all this is that we will never actually see it because it only happened once.
realized how he cut it fast
I do not remember seeing that the funnels fell in the 1912 movie I saw somewhere on RUclips, or am I just stupid?
More like me generalizing every sinking with the funnels falling. You ain't stupid. You a smart cookie
The V-Break doesn't make sense, due to the laws of physics, but let me explain why I don't understand the Roy Mengot Theory. If the ship broke between the 2nd and 3rd funnel, then the stern section would be significantly longer, since they have measured the two pieces, and the small part the broke off with the actual snapping would be gone from the stern, but it is not. For this, I will always support the 1995 James Cameron theory, or, the High Angle Break. It just makes the most sense to me. Call me a Titanic Geek or something all you want, but that is how I think it sank.
I see your point. The Mengot theory, as depicted in my video and many others, was more violent than could be shown. The entire area just aft of funnel 2 and forward of funnel 4 was almost obliterated by the breakup. The forward and aft towers had enough structural integrity to keep together until the impact with the seafloor. I understand why you prefer to follow the 1995 theory, but a growing number of people are accepting the newer Mengot theory. Neither is correct or wrong since we'll never know how the ship failed. As such, I will not say you are wrong.
Can u explain the law of physics or are u just saying the law of physics? V break theory actually makes a lot of sense, but that never happened.
As i note in this list, high angle break is wrong….take extreme high angle, with hull near vertical before break. That puts entire hull into longitudinal compression or tendion depending on distance from bow. Bending moment on hull is near zero. So if hull broke, as it clearly did, from bending, that is most likely at low angle and not when ship is standing on end or nearly on end.
Bow filled, bottom crushed, shear strake was last to break. Thats why sides bulge out and bow deck was pulled down at break.
Hey! Here is great idea….whyn’t we build a submerse and look at it ourselves? We can make sub out of a carbon fiber tube. We will take wealthy tourists down and make a fortune!
None of us were there so we will probably never know for sure how it really sank. Even the survivors who seen it sink couldn’t agree how it happened. Some said it sank in 1 piece while others just said it broke in two. The wireless operator drew the v break. This argument on how it sank has been going on for over 100 years and it probably won’t stop anytime soon.
In James Cameron was the high angle break
@Shadow nAh YoU tRiPpIn ItS tHe V bReAk
@Shadow no one knew how titanic split in 1997
@@ThatIsALakeSir uhmm everyone did? The wreck was discovered in 1985?
@@zhackiethedog don’t you understand? NO ONE KNEW how the ship split in half.
@@zhackiethedog yeah, everyone, i mean, literally everyone knew that the titanic have broken in two pieces, and also, there was a bunch of theories taking about how the titanic have split in two
Intro: 0:00
One piece theory: 0:06
High angle break: 1:59
2012 Theory: 5:41
STUPID Theory: 8:14
The only way a v-break would be even slightly possible, is if the titanic hit the iceberg as normal, but didn’t head to port fast enough and puncture a massive hole around midship.
I really do not get (and if that makes me a moron I'll survive) how the V-break is even possible.
Ummm actually v-break is the most reasonable one and is the best theory over all🤓🤓🤓-said no one ever-
The one piece theory doesn't make the funnels collapse or anything, unless you are talking about the "A Night To Remember" one, that had only the fourth funnel collapse.
And i know, i'm 1 year late
Can you use the high quality Titanic
Of course I will
The present theory has changed now but the breakup is in the same area
I believe the ship broke between the 3rd and 4th funnel because the bow has 3 holes were the 3 funnels once sat and the stern shows only the 4th funnel spot but it tour away during the sinking
No, the bow has only 2 holes. The third is probably Great Staircase’s dome hole.
Bow has 2 holes of funnel and big hole of grand staircase
I kinda still belive in the v break it but not in the aaron 1912 theory. My theory is the L break, After the 1st 2nd funnel fell, (low angle) there was a boiler explosion, but due to the low angle, the bow was only 10 or 20 meters (the height from the bridge to bow) underwater, so the boilers exploding caused the bow to bob up but not come out of the water, only the mast rises a bit higher above. It breaks bottom to top. The stern goes higher up to a 45 degree angle for a few seconds and then slowls settles down to about a 35 degree angle. Then the ship goes plunges down with a 35 degree angle.
you forgot the robert ballard theory and return to the titanic
the one-piece theory is true from 1912 to 1985 because from 1912 to 1985 the titanic has not yet been discovered therefor they think it sank in one-piece until the discovery
how to make funnels fall off itself????
This is so underrated
I watched many funky theories - espercially the V-Break - about the breaking of Titanic when I was in my fifth or sixth grade of my primary school and into Titanic's research by Cameron's movie. (oh you know the young kids need some... "sexual enlightenment", and I heard about that well-known scenes so... Luckily it gave me more "enlightenment" on ship engineering than sexual. )
And I was like, you know, "Why is it so complex? It looks so unnatural for a ship. Why can't the ship just break a part in half, and the hull plates under No.3 funnel just blowed apart by the static and dynamic water pressure or ripped by the stern during sinking?"
See Roger Long and Aaron1912, you guys don't even smart and clear than a primary school student.
Can I have your settings?
in the one peice theory none of the funnels fell -_-
That's because they believed in that
One piece theory was from 1912
MY THEORY IS SO GOOD FOR RMS TITANIC
The villains break is ridiculous she would have sunk in less than half an hour if the v break had happened
You can measure them at bottom and tell where they broke off
I personally believe that the ship split in a high angle with it splitting just behind the 3rd funnel, but to be honest I think more people pay attention to how it sank instead of the victims and the true scale of Titanic disaster, for me, I think the victims and survivors are getting underrated and more of this overrated, we should focus more on the people and now how the Titanic really sank, I think we all got an idea how it sank and I see no need to continue.
True.
Yes I love titanic history but at the end if the day to hell with the ship. One of the victims lives is more important than the ship
can i get the few number of stress on Roy mengot one?
I think the initial variant of the V break presented in 2006 (NOT the Aron one) didn’t actually have the bow raising from the surface, but somehow that moron’s version basically became the V-Break to end all V-breaks.
High angle break is original that i see on movie
I thought there will be more theory in the video but ther is only four
Titanic 2004🙂🙂
Hey you auto sinking titanic ?
the funnels did not fall in the 1912 to 1985 theorys
no matter what theory might be true, you can believe any theory you want. Also V break, don’t be mad at V break acceptors, just opinion of them.
Did no survivors say the ship split in 1912
They did the almost half of the survivors said they saw it breaking in two
I think it was high angle
why you should never take the theory of an Aaron1912
This video has the same amount of likes as views of my most popular short😮
Nice
0:23 THE ONE PICE
High angle break most accurate
Name geme
Floating Sandbox
Physics is no thing now
The v break is alright
My theory is that it broke in half underwater
Not possible, I guess maybe but survivors stated seeing the ship break in half above water before submerging.
Explain why people saw the stern go splashing back down to the water then
@@Joquillex I dont think he was taking to you
My theory changed now its a bottom up mixed with up bottom in the middle
There are so many things that disprove this but eh, believe what you want. I respect everyones theories :)
i think it sank in one piece but broke when touched the ocean bottom
Then how are the pieces 600 meters apart?
Order to get the secret emoji You have to comment the scared emoji and then you might see it
you got the high angle wrong
Does anyone else believe in the James Cameron 2012 theory?
I Believe in his theory all the way up until the stern seperates from the bow, in which it takes a great list to port and doesnt go upright. Many survivors state that Titanics stern looked like a big black thumb against the starlight, so It must have at least gone 60-80 degrees upright.
The one piece is only the first funnel collapse not all
Hey what Titanic 2022
I got secret emoji
TITANIC TONIE
Gingergaming21 theory
Titanic
The first teori is true... One piece The titanic Break under water
no
Only idiots think it broke by bc of a v-break >:(
I don’t accept the v break one
An my THEORY
To think, we discover Titanic broke up, and we weren't satisfied, but instead decided to bicker over how EXACTLY the breakup looked like...
This is why V-Break theory exists, people. 🤦♂️
I see your point. I will say that due to conflicting testimonies from survivors and the wreck site itself, it's a matter of connecting the dots. V-break and other conspiracies are just from people who either don't understand, are too young, are too brain dead, or are just wanting attention
@@TopHatTITAN true. But why do we need to know exactly HOW the breakup looked like...?
@@HANKSANDY69420 because of historical accuracy plus an addiction with the titanic
@@kostan55 ah yes, aint we all? Hey Im a Titanic geek myself who is obsessed with drawing it (and am a pretty good drawer if I do say so myself) and I STILL dont get the point of the breakup theories. It split in half. (Due to strain) period.
𝓗𝓮𝓵𝓵𝓸
The v break is suck
As the experts discovered that there was no crushing at the bottom of the ship, but there was at the top, after finding other pieces - footage widely available in documentaries - I suggest you review that before calling people names.
But the v break is literally physically impossible…
I think you're misconstruing the damage of pulling and stretching with crushing. V-break is physically impossible due to the fact that if the bow is already sinking and flooded, how would breaking the ship in a V result in the bow suddenly regaining buoyancy and rising up?
If you're interested in a real good breakdown of why it couldn't work, and how the witness testimony doesn't support a V-break, check ruclips.net/video/NIjw_0K84N0/видео.html
Speedrun get debunked in comments thread any %
The V break only could happen if the ship hit in the bow and stern also who are there experts Aaron12
Cool
thats not how the one piece theory went