Our relationship is…complicated
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2023
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“I was his friend, his landlord, and…… his lover”
😅😂
He gave him a little more than the linus tech *tip*
@@carpelunam Using his _"Linus sized screwdriver"_ .... 😏
@@thedarkpassenger6696 you my friend, need Jesus lmao
So Linus was Luke's Feudal lord for a brief time
When you put it like that...
So called landlords when I live underground
Being back feudalism?
hahaha holy shit yeah
Essentially
Luke was thrown to floatplane and just went “I’m going to make this actually good just to spite Linus”
2:30 So, Luke's position was once "Assistant to the Regional Manager".
@Anshika gaming you scammers need to this stop madness
@@adriancandelario2902 report and move on tends to be the best move. Commenting on bots just feeds them.
@@adriancandelario2902 that's the third time I've seen this one in two days. Keep reporting
Linus admitting he pushed Luke onto a side project because he was annoying him is the funniest shit, and somehow exactly what I expected it to be
As an aeronautical engineer working in a payroll team for a big tech company I can confirm what Luke and Linus said, enthusiasm and humility to learn are KEY
as a soon to graduate engineering undergrad can you give me an interview so i can bring my enthusiasm and humility to learn to your big tech company :)
I work for a company led by delusional people while in school, and it's fake it till you make it 100% for me
@Saloni 💖 i just reported you for spam. seriously, you're trying to get people from here to go to your site by asking for help with your computer, but the video is gameplay? you area scammer and i hope your page goes away.
@@twentylush 40 years work experience required sorry
So your company stuck an Aeronautical engineer in...payroll?
1:14 "technically one more thing"
Did you use protection?
The fact you guys have achieved so much and stayed friends speaks volumes for your characters.
What I see from a lot of these videos is that Linus is an incredible boss, so reasonable, open and very fair to his team. It's so unique to see a boss like him
And having succes will help too. If certain things didn't go (as) well there could have been a lot more friction/problems.
The plot armor is significant.
The fact Floatplane is the lovechild of some kind of drama between Luke and Linus, instead of some calculated business decision is just insane. Building software like Floatplane is insanely hard and risky. Props to Luke, but I hope they both realize just how lucky they are. The typical story for something like this is ending up in sunk-cost-fallacy-hell. People have sunk millions of dollars and thousands of hours at stuff like Floatplane.
I'm kinda new here, what's Flip/floatplane?
@@aleks-33 JFGI
@@aleks-33 Think of it like Patreon, but mainly video posts (in high-quality Audio & Vidoe) for early-access or exclusive content. Developed in-house but gets used by other creators as well, such as DankPods drumming streams, which would sound bad on most streaming sites but FP has good audio quality so it doesn't sound like crap.
Every time Linus says Yvonne Umbrella Corporation, I think YUC
Friend, landlord, employer and unlicensed proctologist
I love how with each WAN show, we get progressively closer to Linus and Luke admitting that they were once boyfriend and boyfriend.
Sugardaddy I believe it's called. 😂
Ew no please
@ 吉田駆 we know this is the Yvonne bot army
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I can feel this. One of my best friends works under me, though I'm not his direct manager and we sometimes have to make difficult decisions that affect him and others on the team. We have an amazing friendship outside of work but occasionally work related stuff can strain things - we have very strict boundaries on what we don't talk about outside of work, but I can easily see how things can get easily complicated. Good friendships will outlast any work related crap, jobs are replacable after all, but it doesn't mean it doesn't take a lot of work sometimes!
Wendys is temporary, bros are eternal
I wonder if you'd have this same chirpy opinion if you were the subordinate and your friend were your boss. :^)
@@theglowcloud2215 I would, actually, and do, because at the weekend, he's *my* boss, as I'm his roadie/driver/technician for gigs (he's a singer/entertainer). I get where you're coming from, though!
Keep the conversation going and the boundaries real. It's not so much just the fact it's a job but that said job provides $$$ and $$$ can ruin any relationship. Stay vigilant.
how much do you make?
If you're awful, be someone else! Now THAT is a statement that could change the world 😂👍
@Sakshi gaming I do not care in the slightest
@Sakshi gaming educate yourself and figure it out on your own. Your on a video produced by a channel that can provide you with all the knowledge you need.
if only democrats would take this to heart
I will forever use this quote
George Santos gameplay
the james story. in 11th year i wrote an apa research paper on qdoled, and my main source was james’ initial hands on with them. he explained everything so well, and to a point where i could then explain it in my paper well enough to get a solid A-. so props on him for putting in the time to learn the subject and learn to teach so well
The only thing about working outside hours when you start a new job is that with some people, it sets a precedent. Then they expect you to be willing to do it from that point on.
Saving this to share with future young staff. Luke's take on bosses is exactly what both managers and staff need to hear.
And Linus about "don't be afraid to ask and take notes"
Saying "part 2" for the scam link is such a good idea, I wonder why nobody does that
did floatplane happen because Yvonne said Luke wasnt allowed to sleep in your guys bed anymore? :p
1:10 (Linus said) at one point in time I was his friend, his landlord, his employer, and I think there was technically one other thing... I was also his lover. (That was the one other thing that Linus did not want to say...) We all know it. You can tell by their body language that he didn't say it because they were playing footsies underneath the table.
I'm a manager for a small team and one of my team members, I think, works too hard. He puts more hours in and goes well past what I expect of him. I admire his attitude towards work but I do worry he's going to burn himself out - which I tell him - so I'm definitely gonna use the "you're no good to me dead" expression next time I see him working too hard.
Nice. Be a leader, not a boss.
This is the distinction with being a leader or being a manager. Do you mange their work or do you lead them down the right path? Enabling them for their aspirations and mentoring them. That is the difficult position. How to balance the goals of the business with your team. How do you cultivate that relationship while keeping it professional and respectful. I wish you the best but I would encourage you to find out what that employee is working for and how you can raise them to be satisfied. Do this with the whole team. Let them know how much you appreciate them all and how much this cohesive team makes it work so much. Also one way to handle the over work is to look at team events to bring more than work to their life. Maybe analyze what they are handling and what is the work load and reorganize the load. Are they over loaded or maybe their are spotting something your missing and pulling up the slack. Point being look at other angles and trying different methods to see what works the best. I have worked with many team members over the years I’ve learned to get them going towards goals and aspirations while making it a benefit to them and the work is rewarding to those individuals and the company. Good luck but keep in mind that your concerns might be something that is situational and not character driven so be observant first. Know your team and situation the best and avoid assumptions at all cost.
I am the way that your cohort is. The difference with my leadership is that I have now raised the baseline and my neurotic level of work has become the expectation. The danger in this is that my leadership doesn't see me as an important asset, but just someone working normally which of course demoralizes me and the rest of the team.
I have clinical depression and sometimes cope by burying myself in work. They might be depressed lol.
@@egondro9157 They're people so I treat them as such. If their performance slips I don't punish them, I talk with them and see what's going on and if there's anything I or the company can do to support them. And yeah, I'm very aware of what they want to do with their careers and I help guide them and push them in that direction, even if it means losing them as team members. They're more important to me as people than they are as team members. I can always hire new workers to fill their roles but I can't hire replacements for *them* if that makes sense.
I have so much respect for Linus and Luke and the way they have run LMG and Floatplane. Hearing them talk business and HR in these clips, there are people at Fortune 500 companies that need to hear this stuff because they are too focused on seeing the "R" that they have forgotten the "H".
I think all qualified jobs need to have some kind of research/learning budget included in addition to what you automatically learn just by doing the work. That said, in technology the culture itself simply means that people will play with tech on their own time as well, and become more competitive hires regardless. I've struggled with doing things for work in my spare time because my work usually takes a lot of focus and energy, but now I'm actually starting to build a small app idea for fun with AWS serverless architecture which we also use at work.
We are going to agree that this culture exploits the worker, right? Surely the expectation that you work for free to educate yourself for work the company might do in the future on your own time is an insidious one?
@@metasystem8625 some do, some dont. At my current job I can take time to educate myself if I want to, but it hasnt been the case every time. Getting questions about how much you learn on your own in your spare time has happened to me as well. Not a lot, but things like "are you working on any hobby projects" etc. Which is used to gague my general interest for tech I think.
@@metasystem8625 If I work on stuff beyond work hours, it's only ever on skill building in areas that are either widely valued, or I personally have some passion for. If instead it's role specific then I'm doing it on the clock.
I don't see that as exploitative - my employer does get extra value from that effort. If they don't recognise it, via flexibility promotion or pay, I'm in a good position to look elsewhere for someone who does value it.
I agree with the fact that the work takes time and energy... Every time I get off work I'm sooo tired 😅
Friend boss landlord and lovers lol
They should get a room hehe
Why do I get the feeling there is an epic Luke rise/fall/rise again character development arch that we are only getting a tiny glimpse into? Can we hear more about the story of FloatPlane's launch and Luke's transition???
this conversation was like 2 exes discussing dating
the awkward tension in this conversation was so fun to watch lol
That last one was "lovers" wasn't it? Y'all had a bromance 😂😂😂😂
Really love the transparency you guys have when it comes to conversations like this.
Luke: my relationship with Linus was like RGB lights...
Lukes advice there towards the end about burnout really spoke to me, I've been in a bad cycle for a couple months.
"Unless you're awful, and then be someone else."
Hahaha. Sage advice.
lmao i’m 2:26 in and this feels like watching a divorced couple meeting years later after both have self healed and realised the damage they both caused and are finally talking about it.
You know, I came for the tech videos, and still enjoy them, but I definitely stay for the WAN show. This is the first podcast I’ve actually ever latched onto, and you guys have some really great content. As a small business owner who’s trying to scale and add more units to his business, I find a lot of the stuff you guys talk about actually very useful and interesting.
As someone who's had a lot of ...well unfit bosses... Just listen to your workers, they know what's best for the product. And if you have to turn down advice or opinions, help them see stuff from your point of view instead of just pushing through. You can get people to do amazing things if you find out how to motivate them the right way. Some people just want more and more money, but a lot of people take pride in making the best product out there. If you get them rolling, you won't be able to stop them again. As in, if you fire them at some point, they'll likely just go off and become your biggest competitor...
I needed this, thank you.
"So rent is due"
"yea will pay once i get my salary"
"Oh okay when is that?"
"I dont know you tell me"
Best tip for a new joining a new department (as a lead)? Curiosity and be yourself / relatable. Curiosity makes the other team members excited that there is a person being interested in their expertise. And being yourself / relatable makes you seem human and a part of the social group.
thanks for upgrading the mics! sounds great 👍
That's one of the thing I hate about work culture. People expect you to learn be at speed but also hate it when you're asking question - the whole don't ask the same thing twice, I've really hate it. It's not like you can give a perfect answer the first time either, sometime it just took effort to understand what each of you want.
Because of that, I've made it my personal rule that if some newbies (or anyone really) come asking me questions, I'll answer to the best of my ability, as many times as they need it to do their job.
Being employee or employer of your friend is great when it works. Sadly, it can very easily stop working, and if that happens, it can be nasty and awkward and making everyone involved miserable, and might even cost you the friendship. So my personal recommendation would be to avoid that work situation if at all possible and leave friends out of your work relationships. Chances are you'll be glad you did.
Also the "be a valuable member of the team" can easily turn against you too if you make yourself a bit too valuable and a bit too willing to be that, because you're likely to work with people that are less willing to be valuable members of the team, in which case you'll be taken advantage of rather easily.
That can be a song, "🎼I am your friend, your boss, your landlord and your little boy🎶"
The part of burning out is super true, its something i have a hard time getting out of but managing the self care is one of the best ways to avoid it. I think its nice for the gogetter attitude and im glad james is a super great host plus seems to be doing well.
Agreed, burnout happens even when you never think it will. I'm obsessed with tech, I work with it, I play with it at home, everything in my life is about tech and I've always done tons of work outside of work, unpaid and totally voluntarily for the love of the job. But burnout does creep up on you and at one point I couldn't bare to look at work stuff even during work let alone in my spare time as I always had done before. Thankfully, at that time I was beginning to hire a team of my own so I was able to delegate much of the stuff I would do in my spare time to my new team to take care of and I just took a few months of ignoring everything once I'd left the office. I'm now at a happy medium place where I occasionally still voluntarily work out of hours when I'm in the mood, but I'm equally at-ease when I don't feel like it and most importantly I don't feel I'm letting anyone down by taking a step back any more
Linus has been really funny the past few weeks! I've been cracking up at all of these videos
I just had a bit of a burnout. Luckily my line of work allows me to take long breaks so I took a month off and I just got back into it. The worst realization I had was in December after I had sold my PTO days and was working harder to make up for everyone else being on PTO.
If it's ok me asking, what line of work?
My official job title is office manager. I came into the company with 3 months of experience. I know the reason i am in this position was because i always said "not my job is not in my vocabulary." I put time in after hours and did every job without argument no matter the difficulty or if i knew what i was doing i always said ill figure it out. We have people who are much more qualified than i am that i was moved up over because of that. My boss never misses a chance to remind me how much being a company person is more important than experience to him
Nice to see them talk about past problems in a healthy way, wish people could solve theie peoblems like that
nice advice in general about work life in general
The sudden realization that Yvonne is actually tje 3rd wheel.. 😂😂
"Go getter attitude" = go through training during free unpaid overtime.
This was great advice
This is legit some great work advice
10:52 I really like that, I haven't heard before. I'm definitely going to have to steal that for use going forward.
This episode is golden
I just started a job myself and this was a very insightfully asked and answered question!
🔥 conversation i’ve been wondering
1:18 his lover 😏
The ad timing for me was beautiful.
“Under the umbrella of…”
*overly boosted “sexy” whisper*
“SWEET-TARTS”
💀😂😂
this might be the best most useful information informative clip on this entire channel
My 14 year old self is amused that the thumbnail for this video appears to have Linus making a kissy face toward Luke.
If you're being sent to another department to lead a team, keep two things in mind: firstly, the people at the top chose you for that position for a reason, understand why, and you will understand what you have to do, and be confident in yourself and their judgement; and secondly, don't let go up to your head, you're the boss but you're also the new guy, you are filling someone else's shoes and sitting on a chair other people were fighting for, don't act as if you know better just because you were promoted, learn from the quality's, absorb their experience, and during that time use your fresh eyes to find where they are lacking.
thanks 😎🔥
Keep conscious, a fresh eye is very valuable!
Best advice: ask questions. Be 100% transparent with your direct reports about your level of experience with the work being done. Let them know you want to learn first, lead second. Show that you are willing to get your hands dirty with them.
Remember as an outside set of eyes you may see things that are creating unnecessary obstacles that more tenured team members have simply accepted as being normal as well.
The bromance we once all fell in love with LTT is still there!
I was Luke's friend, boss, landlord and one other thing..... oh yeah, Luke, I am your father.... all of those things at once.
Lmg isn't amazon, pretty sure they wouldn't stubbornly keep a project open at a huge loss. So it's gotta be doing pretty well right? 😎 glad to hear of floatplane's continued success!
Frankly, I've always appreciated the lofe advice sections more than anything else.
The James getting the textbook thing is pretty great and it gives him knowledge for things that he can put on his resume if he leaves LMG.
Currently struggling with burn-out. Got promoted in October last year. The burn-out since the promotion has come and gone in waves.
I've been in the workforce since I was 16 years old. So thats getting close 30 years now. I have been the new guy. I have been the boss. I have been the guy that is roomies with the boss so I was put in as assistant manager. I have also been just a normal worker thats friends outside of work with the boss. When I was living under the same roof with my boss and kinda just made myself assistant store manager I was 19. It was a disaster because I was young and stupid. I knew very well how to take advantage of the situation and I did. It was not a good time for the store or the other employees. Now go on ahead about 20 years and its not that hard to be friends with your boss. Both of you have to be adults and do your job. You have to know that your friendship has nothing to do with you when you are on the clock. The employee has to give it their best try. Go in and do your job. Realize that if you aren't doing what you should then your BOSS may have to treat you like you are an employee thats not doing what they are paid to do! Same thing if you are the boss. You have to treat all the people under you like they are human beings. You especially have to make sure you don't treat your friend differently from everyone else. If there is a promotion or raise due to someone and the best person for it happens to be your friend? You best hope you have done right and treated your people as the valuable assets they are. If not someone will raise a stink about your buddy being promoted unfairly and you could both end up unemployed! You could have employees that are just crap people as well. They could raise a problem regardless of how well you have treated them. So be prepared to answer questions if higher ups at the company come to you with questions about why your buddy was promoted above everyone else. It should be clear in most cases if they truly deserved the raise and or promotion. Yes you can be friends and under or above each other at work. The best solution is to go above and beyond to leave that friendship off the clock. Don't hang out on break. Don't constantly chat as best buds while on the clock or at the job period. If it puts a strain onyour friendship? Well thats normal. If it destroys your friendship then ask yourself how good of friends were you to begin with? It takes work to be friends at work.
It was going so well then they just start throwing advice at you haha. I think they both have great points, some of what Luke said seems very typical of what every potential employer, good (but generally bad) would say. There's stuff they say that might not even make sense to you now until you get some more work experience under your belt. Definitely some gems here, and a great story to boot!
god do i wish i lived in Vancouver. I would have applied for a job there just for the sheer knowledge and how much i could expand myself on my fav topics, all because you guys simply seem to have access to it all. My biggest downside is I'm not a writer nor do i have any editing skills... though I'm sure i could learn how to do things they have down there. Labs would probably be the dream though. Everything Videos cards and CPU's are my jam.
Another issue is hoping to come across a boss that knows their staff, knows their capabilities and would like to see them rank up. In a lot of industries, the people that deserve a promotion and to get pushed up the ladder the most, dont get it while those that dont deserve it do as part of some internal drama (friend higher up in the ranks) or _'box ticking exercises'_ you know, the super controversial sort where people who arent qualified or have the right amount of experience or mental fortitude get bumped up the ladder because of their race or gender etc etc.
I’m baffled at the number of people who just go home and watch TV all night, and don’t do a single thing to improve their knowledge of the job
Would be kinda cold to see the comparison of both fan designs tried on the drone. The noctua one and the MIT one
Whats good about you two is you can both admit shit was going on and maybe misplaced. Lifes rough, just gotta learn together sometimes, stick through even if it seems like a bad idea.
Usually only works when both parties try to be humble and honest tho
2:38 LMFAO Luke being a real Assistant Regional Manager there
Forming, Storming, Norming, Performing but in long form.
i am breaking in my 3rd new "superior" at work.
because i did not want that position when it opened up for the first time.
And because the people i broke in and rebuilt are actually capable of
doing more than just filling the position as my superior.
"don't try too hard" can mean "only perform to a level you can reliably sustain over long periods of time". Because when you push yourself to burnout levels, where "i can handle this for maybe a week or two but then i'll crack and lose capability for a while"-the company will generally see "hey, you did this much before, so you clearly should be doing that EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL. It's like tightening the rope around your own neck, any inch you give, they will take it and refuse to give it back. And i've seen companies decide their best employees should be the baseline for all employees, and started increasing requirements and firing long-time employees that were always in good standing because they couldn't match peak performance of the best employees. Those companies turn into revolving doors though, just trying to find that small percent of people able to maintain incredibly high levels of performance and kicking other good employees to the curb for not being 'the best'. (and this wasn't even a good paying job). It's kind of like cars, you can redline them for a bit to get that extra performance, but if someone tried to keep it running at redline ALL THE TIME that engine is going to burn out/blow up
I can't stop watching this channel.
Was Linus going to say "Lover"?
Wholesome father/son bonding moment
Education on your own time I think is fine. Doing work on your own time isn't.
it's hard to be the boss or work under your friend because the nature of business is to survive in bad times and that means you need to fire people in a bad year. Sometimes the friend think he is the last person to be fired but that may not be true some other people could be more valuable for the business instead of him and they could take that in a bad way and ruin the friendship, these things needs to be talked beforehand at the beginning.
the last thing was father, as he was on linus’ music subscription
Linus probbaly been ISP for luke.
And watercooling provider too.
@Sakshi gaming bot
Great advice all around. Only thing I would add is to keep an eye/ear out for anyone who is overly negative, whether it's about the team or resources or the boss or whatever. They tend to grab on to new hires early, and if they're talking crap about other people, they're talking crap about you too.
Even with the complicated relationship with Linus, good on Slick. He made it far in life.
I think the reality is that nobody truly has THE experience for a job. Even the people at the highest positions are faking until they make it. The successful ones are just able to convince others that they know what they are doing.
The first rule of leadership is learn how to follow.
If you have people with experience it's better to work closely with them so you can understand some of the challenges.
What a helpful video
I’m sure Luke and Linus LOVE looking through these comments
Anyone got the 1080P Enchanced bitrate?
"Find an AJ and a Yuki as fast as you can..." (suddenly his entire team gets unsolicited job offers from another company)
that mouse comment at 8:55. What are you doing with your mice? what the heck man. got the worlds heaviest fingers
As someone that joined my dream job a completely new organisation (a VERY well known and respected Science Org in Australia) right out of University I just turned myself into a sponge and had a notebook and tried to absorb as much as quick as possible. No after hours work everyone has a work life expectation of work and rest. My team manager is VERY strict on taking time off (as in TAKE TIME OFF don't overwork)
Been here just under 6 months now and everyone has been super impressed even got my temp contract extented well beyond what was discussed in my interview.
Just ask questions and even ask them again after the fact some systems are complicated to get first try as long as you be ENTHUSIASTIC. I've also found asking for MORE work if you feel you've caught on and can handle it ofc don't hesitate to ask for more tasks to at least learn.
You work for the organization that helped create WiFi right?
@@Icessassin no, close 😉
great vid
Lover?
@Sakshi gamingBOT
Hey sakshi, go stand on a plug..
Fake it till you make it... That's normal in business world. Have confidence and fake it to make it.