Proton Mail Discloses User Data - Is It Still Secure?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @hyplayer
    @hyplayer 5 месяцев назад +38

    Honestly at this point i might just ditch email

    • @gemsbok.
      @gemsbok. 5 месяцев назад +9

      There is a reason that some of the world's most highly guarded areas are completely closed networks.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 5 месяцев назад

      Why, you a terroist? :)

  • @brettlaw4346
    @brettlaw4346 5 месяцев назад +17

    What stops all requests from coming with terrorism allegations?

    • @trucid2
      @trucid2 5 месяцев назад +11

      Nothing. And if a company gets an NSA letter, it comes with a gag order. They're not allowed to even tell their users that they were forced to disclose their data.

    • @metalema6
      @metalema6 Месяц назад

      Considering they already label any anti-immigration sentiment as terrorism, nothing

  • @Snicker433
    @Snicker433 4 месяца назад +8

    Proton are obligated to give any data to authorities that they are able to.
    Maybe don't use a recovery email? As that was the only thing they could give.
    To me this is more of a reason to trust Proton.

  • @anonymous6666
    @anonymous6666 5 месяцев назад +4

    Love this take. You're absolutely correct about peoples' ignorance with threat modeling, you can't claim to care if you didn't do diligence to understand the technology.
    Please keep posting more short clips from the podcast, like this!

  • @QEDAGI
    @QEDAGI 4 месяца назад +2

    Made me check whether I have a recovery email at Proton. I don't. Thanks for the heads-up.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 4 месяца назад +1

      I don't have a recovery email and I have a long password.

  • @likebot.
    @likebot. 5 месяцев назад +10

    If having a recovery e-mail was an option on all e-mail providers it would be easier to skirt this by creating two anonymous accounts and using each as a recovery e-mail for the other. BTW, what _is_ the difference between a verification and a recover e-mail? I always thought they were the same idea.

    • @potatoe4221
      @potatoe4221 5 месяцев назад +2

      I've never in my life been forced to set a recovery email for an email.

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@potatoe4221 Then it must be forcing you to give a phone number instead then. And probably your name, birthday, gender...

    • @ТеофрастБомбаст-ы2т
      @ТеофрастБомбаст-ы2т 2 месяца назад

      In proton, when youbregister you must verify your email once, that proove you are a real person not a bot registring dozens of emails. So you basicaly recieve email from proton on your regular mail, lets say gmail. Once you verify yourself, they never use your previous email adress again. But if you want you can register it as a recovery, or other email, same in google mail. Then if you forgot your password, they will send you a massage to your recovery email, and you can reset password.

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. 2 месяца назад

      Oh good! I was under the impression that there were still bots.

  • @Ghostintheshell3551
    @Ghostintheshell3551 Месяц назад +2

    I use Proton :d It has never failed my and i dont do illegal sht /

  • @agt313
    @agt313 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why would you use a recovery phone or e-mail, it defeats the whole purpose !!!

  • @russellmania5349
    @russellmania5349 4 месяца назад +1

    I have no recovery email and a 16 digit password.

  • @im1random263
    @im1random263 4 месяца назад +1

    Okayyyy noting down... do not use iCloud as recovery email for terrorist stuff...

  • @elixier33
    @elixier33 Месяц назад

    It was never secure.

  • @baronvonlederhosen
    @baronvonlederhosen 5 месяцев назад

    To me Protonmail is way too overpriced for what it offers. Posteo does a great job and I don't need more privacy than that they offer.

    • @trucid2
      @trucid2 5 месяцев назад

      @@shoop9274 If it's free, you're the product.

  • @williamtopping
    @williamtopping 5 месяцев назад +5

    It always amuses me when supposed 'security experts' champion services like this.
    Soon as they do that, they disclose how stupid and ignorant they actually are on security matters.
    Trust no-one is the ONLY security advice you really need to know. Behave as though you've ALREADY BEEN compromised.
    Anyone who claims otherwise is fooling you.

    • @MarigoldAW
      @MarigoldAW 4 месяца назад +3

      You are right but the average person's threat model is not to be completely and totally anonymous. Most people who opt out of relying on google for everything are just looking for a bit more privacy offered by these services and in my opinion these services are great for that. A bit more privacy without causing significant disruption in their day to day

    • @finnderp9977
      @finnderp9977 4 месяца назад

      Well legal company cannot ignore law and authorities, otherwise it would be criminal gang.

    • @russellmania5349
      @russellmania5349 4 месяца назад

      @@MarigoldAW
      I'm not sure why anyone would have a recovery email if you're using Proton Mail.

    • @MarigoldAW
      @MarigoldAW 4 месяца назад

      @@russellmania5349 Where did I mention anything about a recovery email?