Im Samoan living in Sydney. I love australia so much. Such lovely people. Been here for 20 years now and never had any problems.....aussies are very lovely people too. Thanks australia for being a great family and friend. 🥰
If you see the amount of waste in seafood markets and stores you’d agree that large fishing vessels should all be shut down and only small vessels/ fishermen be permitted to provide seafood in local areas only
Government should send notice. Any boat caught illegal fishing will be held accountable. Crews will be arrested- boats will be either sunk or scraped for salvage.
So are you ignoring the boat burning of illegal fishers? Yes, they’re captured where they can and burn their boats and they have been for decades. There are millions of square km and these boats can return over the boundary before being caught. Ignorant comment without researching this for one second.
For Australia and New Zealand fishing is one of ours most important industries, sadly the Asian and Chinese fishing ship's with their smaller boat's are only going to get expanding situation, it's definitely future foods security and possibly a war outcome,
First of all Chinese are Asians no need to separate those two. Second, Asians are fishing for the same reason as Australia and New Zealand the only reason why is " illegal " because the government is not getting a cut. With the right price from China the ocean life would be gone. It's only a matter of time.
This has been happening for 40 years+. Have personally spoken to Indonesian fisherman from Rote island, who told me this face to face. They send boats from Rote and Sumba (possible other islands too) into Australian waters to take anything and everything! But it's not just the fish at risk! They board young children on their boats and use them as slaves for the fisherman, so you can imagine what this really means! Further more, it's not just the Indonesians doing this. Besides this, I don't support commercial fishing at all, even Australian's fishing for $ in Australian water can go get stuffed. The oceans should be respected and ruined.
While on a pleasure fishing trip in the early 80s in Australias Northern waters, i heard of one Indonesian boat caught with two tons of Giant Clam meat on board. That brings into prspective the though of how much and for how long our reefs are being decimated.
Well I think it comes down to a simple question. How much revenue is Australia loosing and what is the cost of having an active coast guard or military presence in those areas. If the cost of having the authorities patrolling the area is less, it's a no brainer.
We need a whole new government system put in place for just about everything.! The mega rich in this country that made their money from this land ! Must put money in to protect our oceans!
I learn about the ice boats and the illegal fishing that happen in Australia from the TV show called 'Sea Patrol' at 12:14, the patrol boat was used in season 1 on sea Patrol in 2007. The ship on the show was called HMAS HAMMERSLEY.
It's interesting how they use the "mesh pots" to catch "fish", as they usually only use the mesh pots to catch crabs & lobsters (in the deep water, usually cold waters) but these are tropical water fish. These mesh pots to catch fish might catch-on, in the Southern Australian Waters, and they don't have to compete with the Indonesian fishermen.
I think the traps have replaced trawling, as they do minimal damage to the sea bed, and target primarily the species the fishers are looking for. Significantly less by-catch.
so fish in Aus can take 9 days before it is sold as fresh fish in restaurants ! I once burnt a boat - small rowing boat made out of fibre glass - the smoke filled my valley with thick black smoke, i felt ashamed
Simply goto the south east coast of Sumba when a cyclone forms in North west Australia.. There you will see up to 20 huge wooden mother ships or ice boats as Mr Barker refers to them... This is where they take refuge until the cyclone passes... They are generally from Sulawesie... I see them every year there
Well I'm from San Pedro California and we have a 200 mile exclusion Zone and we still get illegal fishing from lots of people but Australia has Indonesian and others like China now with her huge Fleet of fishing boats. The biggest problem is that if you get enough of these small boats in Mass they can wipe out an area pretty fast. Worse thing could happen to Australia would be having some of that huge Chinese fishing to come down there they could wipe everything out but they got to do something because that's not cool
The australian government through fisherise management forces Indonesian fishermen to operate vessels in Australian waters that would be illegal if owned by an Australian even restricting internationally recognised safety equiptment and navigation aids and weather warning caperbilitys this amounts to forcing others with in Australian waters to be discriminated against
ABC have no idea showing a Fremantle class patrol boat have been out off service for 14 years. I had 4 and a half years doing patrols at the top end. The labour government always made a mess many occasions I had 20-25 hours sleep in a week. Boats would never do that now.
That's right, in Aus and NZ the countries histories are basically taught as starting at the time English and Dutch Explorers "discovered" the southern lands in the 1600 and 1700s and nothing before that is of much significance, but right next door just a few hundred KM away the Indonesian people had been there thousands of years, with Governments and Kingdoms and Kings and Queens and wars and industries such as fishing and trading etc....
Such week government policy/thinking, none of them have the country’s interests in there minds, they are so out of touch with how to protect our Australian environment and stop the extinction of more of our Australian species.
I can't watch anything to do with commercial fishing and the raping and pillaging they do to our fish stocks. I don't want to hear it's a way of life its a job get another job our oceans are dying because of commercial fishing illegal fishing professional fishermen, netters whatever you want to call them. It sickens me to see beautiful fish killed in great numbers for our consumption all in the name of greed. I also don't want to hear the bullshit it's sustainable. Pristine coastline and waters should be out of bounds off limits to any commercial fishing. Soon there will be nothing left wake up.
They aren’t doing it for their livelihood, they have fished their own waters out of and are intruding into Australian waters because we have more of the species they target for profit.
How can you have an maritime ownership of an international sealane when you've got sovereign islands within you've 200000ml meritocracy (within sovereign island territorial waters)
No. Depends which state or territory you’re in as size limits are not national. There is not even a size limit for Barramundi Cod. Bag limit of 4 per boat in some regions of WA. This would take you 15 seconds to Google.
You mean... If it happens in our waters? Ever wonder where the Somali pirates came from? They started as people defending their waters... Ask 90s fishermen from WA who they were defending against...
I met a bloke who worked on a boat out of Cairns. They stayed out for weeks at a time baiting lines one day then hauling up sharks the next. Between two and three thousand sharks every second day were lifted alongside the boat and had their fins removed before being dropped back into the water. One of many boats doing the exact same thing all year round. Good onya Australia. Keep telling the rest of the world how to behave.
Indonesians have been fishing sea cucumber since before white occupation. They also bred with Indigenous Australians, which gives them more right to be there; but they're taking the piss.
Im Samoan living in Sydney. I love australia so much. Such lovely people. Been here for 20 years now and never had any problems.....aussies are very lovely people too. Thanks australia for being a great family and friend. 🥰
If you see the amount of waste in seafood markets and stores you’d agree that large fishing vessels should all be shut down and only small vessels/ fishermen be permitted to provide seafood in local areas only
Government should send notice. Any boat caught illegal fishing will be held accountable. Crews will be arrested- boats will be either sunk or scraped for salvage.
There is no Australian Magistrate,-that will lock them up.-it's all to hard.-Chinese boats could not care less.
remember Australian. All Europeans came to Asia illegally. remember this always . you can be taken apart too.
Time the government of Australia does something about this indiscriminate fishing by illegal fishermen
Easier said than done, it's a huge area and we don't have the resources to cover it 24/7, Indonesia should be doing their share
So are you ignoring the boat burning of illegal fishers? Yes, they’re captured where they can and burn their boats and they have been for decades. There are millions of square km and these boats can return over the boundary before being caught. Ignorant comment without researching this for one second.
For Australia and New Zealand fishing is one of ours most important industries, sadly the Asian and Chinese fishing ship's with their smaller boat's are only going to get expanding situation, it's definitely future foods security and possibly a war outcome,
Unfortunately Australia won't be going to war with any of those countries within the next few decades at least.
First of all Chinese are Asians no need to separate those two.
Second, Asians are fishing for the same reason as Australia and New Zealand the only reason why is " illegal " because the government is not getting a cut. With the right price from China the ocean life would be gone. It's only a matter of time.
This has been happening for 40 years+. Have personally spoken to Indonesian fisherman from Rote island, who told me this face to face. They send boats from Rote and Sumba (possible other islands too) into Australian waters to take anything and everything! But it's not just the fish at risk! They board young children on their boats and use them as slaves for the fisherman, so you can imagine what this really means! Further more, it's not just the Indonesians doing this. Besides this, I don't support commercial fishing at all, even Australian's fishing for $ in Australian water can go get stuffed. The oceans should be respected and ruined.
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While on a pleasure fishing trip in the early 80s in Australias Northern waters, i heard of one Indonesian boat caught with two tons of Giant Clam meat on board. That brings into prspective the though of how much and for how long our reefs are being decimated.
Well I think it comes down to a simple question. How much revenue is Australia loosing and what is the cost of having an active coast guard or military presence in those areas. If the cost of having the authorities patrolling the area is less, it's a no brainer.
I am so embarrassed to be
an Australian what a week
Government
We need a whole new government system put in place for just about everything.! The mega rich in this country that made their money from this land ! Must put money in to protect our oceans!
At last, someone talks a bit of sense.
Since when does the federal government work for the Australian citizens? They could care less!
Vote someone into office that has a set of nuts and will not stand for this.
I learn about the ice boats and the illegal fishing that happen in Australia from the TV show called 'Sea Patrol' at 12:14, the patrol boat was used in season 1 on sea Patrol in 2007. The ship on the show was called HMAS HAMMERSLEY.
Barges' landingzones with Lighthouse are better in territorial waters to monitor illegal fishing.
When I go fishing in WA, im only allowed to take 2 dimersal scale fish. But this commercial fisherman can take 14 tonnes. 😢
It's interesting how they use the "mesh pots" to catch "fish", as they usually only use the mesh pots to catch
crabs & lobsters (in the deep water, usually cold waters) but these are tropical water fish. These mesh pots
to catch fish might catch-on, in the Southern Australian Waters, and they don't have to compete with the
Indonesian fishermen.
I think the traps have replaced trawling, as they do minimal damage to the sea bed, and target primarily the species the fishers are looking for. Significantly less by-catch.
more environmentally friendly than nets too👍
Where is our army , or is illegal , racist to approach them ?
www.defence.gov.au/operations/resolute
I blame the government for not protecting or even patrolling our vulnerable northern coastline. 😢
there is nothing of yours here. this is their territory. This is Asia
I chased a illegal vessel out of Australian waters when Commercial fishing in the top end...
so fish in Aus can take 9 days before it is sold as fresh fish in restaurants ! I once burnt a boat - small rowing boat made out of fibre glass - the smoke filled my valley with thick black smoke, i felt ashamed
Head of fisheries said ,it is not acceptable, well it has been now for 30 to 40 years and nothing has been done. In many places it is too late.
Simply goto the south east coast of Sumba when a cyclone forms in North west Australia..
There you will see up to 20 huge wooden mother ships or ice boats as Mr Barker refers to them...
This is where they take refuge until the cyclone passes...
They are generally from Sulawesie...
I see them every year there
Well I'm from San Pedro California and we have a 200 mile exclusion Zone and we still get illegal fishing from lots of people but Australia has Indonesian and others like China now with her huge Fleet of fishing boats. The biggest problem is that if you get enough of these small boats in Mass they can wipe out an area pretty fast. Worse thing could happen to Australia would be having some of that huge Chinese fishing to come down there they could wipe everything out but they got to do something because that's not cool
Chinese fishing vessel with a Indonesian crew illegally fishing in Galapagos Islands 2 years ago what a good collaboration in it
Spot on
so WTH are we not just doing exactly what Grant Barker says to do?
Have the same problem in the Bahamas
Yep, used to see it all the time, illegal fishers every other day..... not just occasionally.
The australian government through fisherise management forces Indonesian fishermen to operate vessels in Australian waters that would be illegal if owned by an Australian even restricting internationally recognised safety equiptment and navigation aids and weather warning caperbilitys this amounts to forcing others with in Australian waters to be discriminated against
ABC have no idea showing a Fremantle class patrol boat have been out off service for 14 years. I had 4 and a half years doing patrols at the top end. The labour government always made a mess many occasions I had 20-25 hours sleep in a week. Boats would never do that now.
If only they showed the boat traffic map, especially between Papua & Kimberly coast
They've been doing it for thousands of years,long before your ancestors stamped their foot and said this is mine.
That's right, in Aus and NZ the countries histories are basically taught as starting at the time English and Dutch Explorers "discovered" the southern lands in the 1600 and 1700s and nothing before that is of much significance, but right next door just a few hundred KM away the Indonesian people had been there thousands of years, with Governments and Kingdoms and Kings and Queens and wars and industries such as fishing and trading etc....
Australia nenek moyang Bandit perampok penjajah pembante suku aborigin Ehhh teriak di rampok fatevak ausi
Are the navy, coast guard and border protection vessels no longer boarding and intercepting illegal boats?
That’s an old Freo class patrol boat. Get with the times.
It's worse now because they all have very effective technology. Each boat has double effort. 😮😮😮😮😮😮
Lots of fish in the sea can they pay rent for sea fishing time instead of just coming illegal.
Big time commercial fisherman complaining about smaller commercial fisherman destroying the oceans? Is this some kind of joke?
They're all using nets right? It's not like they're catching by hand
Australian fishes vs Indonesian fishes… who’s going to win? I’d back Australian fish every time
Such week government policy/thinking, none of them have the country’s interests in there minds, they are so out of touch with how to protect our Australian environment and stop the extinction of more of our Australian species.
What are the Australia navy doing
As an Australian, i thought we had an Airforce & Navy ? Sounds like its too easy to bring tons of drugs in, fish on the way home to Indonesia.
I can't watch anything to do with commercial fishing and the raping and pillaging they do to our fish stocks. I don't want to hear it's a way of life its a job get another job our oceans are dying because of commercial fishing illegal fishing professional fishermen, netters whatever you want to call them. It sickens me to see beautiful fish killed in great numbers for our consumption all in the name of greed. I also don't want to hear the bullshit it's sustainable. Pristine coastline and waters should be out of bounds off limits to any commercial fishing. Soon there will be nothing left wake up.
So…what will the government do about illegal fishing? Probably nothing !
Every government wants population to grow so economies grow, but then complain about the population requiring food.
basically they have half closest to them, we have half closest to us
Deaths at sea?……well thats new……
Ask about the Somali pirates?…….
its all about food…
Poverty forces this action….
Tons and tons being caught by commercial boats. Soon it will be all gone!
two faced country as far as eco protection what are your oil and gas company doing on west coast of South Africa in our fishing zone hipocrates
we have our own oil and gas deposits, are you sure it's an Australian company what is the name of the company?
So basically it's fine for the commercial fisherman to get rich but the man that's doing it to survive needs to have his lively hood taken away...
They aren’t doing it for their livelihood, they have fished their own waters out of and are intruding into Australian waters because we have more of the species they target for profit.
Exactly
shouldn't they be fishing in their own waters?
Australian hypocrisy at its finest...
Sounds fair
I have TOP END fisheries why is there no strong force to stop an help ALL
How can you have an maritime ownership of an international sealane when you've got sovereign islands within you've 200000ml meritocracy (within sovereign island territorial waters)
I thought barramundi cod is a protected species in Australia
No. Depends which state or territory you’re in as size limits are not national. There is not even a size limit for Barramundi Cod. Bag limit of 4 per boat in some regions of WA. This would take you 15 seconds to Google.
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Could it be Kidnapping? Or not even Indonesians?
You mean... If it happens in our waters? Ever wonder where the Somali pirates came from? They started as people defending their waters... Ask 90s fishermen from WA who they were defending against...
Time to stop this.... catch their vessels and just keep taking them back home... they can't afford new boats everytime.. it'll end soon
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I met a bloke who worked on a boat out of Cairns. They stayed out for weeks at a time baiting lines one day then hauling up sharks the next. Between two and three thousand sharks every second day were lifted alongside the boat and had their fins removed before being dropped back into the water.
One of many boats doing the exact same thing all year round.
Good onya Australia. Keep telling the rest of the world how to behave.
Indonesians have been fishing sea cucumber since before white occupation. They also bred with Indigenous Australians, which gives them more right to be there; but they're taking the piss.
This easy compared kinda fishin we do in Canada b’y
elmer fudd wouldnt give a stuff
If i was Indonesian i would fish those places.
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I know the facts ....the Australian gov do not have an idea whats going on in indonesia.
Most Australian gov sit on their ass in OZ
I guess you have to work with Indonesia
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