Understanding the New Church Handbook Update on Transgender Members: A Christlike Approach

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024

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  • @m4oni
    @m4oni 26 дней назад +6

    All our brothers and sisters deserve love. It is my duty to treat them with respect and kindness. If God can love me, he surely loves them. Which means he Loves US. Being kind is NOT going woke.

    • @AnticipatingChristsreturn
      @AnticipatingChristsreturn  26 дней назад +1

      Great comment!!! Thank you!! I’m pinning it to the top!
      None of us deserve the love that God and Jesus Christ proffers us!!
      “Being kind is NOT going woke!”
      The 2 great commandments are not opposing commandments!! It is possible to love God AND love one another!!! 🥰

  • @UltraDoug
    @UltraDoug 25 дней назад +1

    Quite a challenging time we live in. I’m a first counselor in my bishopric and I don’t envy my bishops position. That said, he’s a very fair and compassionate person so for now I’m watching, learning and counseling. Thanks for posting this. Christlike Love is indeed the key.

  • @chrishatch99
    @chrishatch99 26 дней назад +7

    I think the abundance of Christlike love is key. My oldest son thinks he is female. It's a real hard struggle even for the parents. After going to the Lord many times on what to do and all I get for an answer is "just love him". And I do! I love that kid! I don't agree with the decisions but that's ok, I still unconditionally love that kid.

    • @AnticipatingChristsreturn
      @AnticipatingChristsreturn  26 дней назад +2

      Thank you for sharing your very personal experience! ❤️

    • @m4oni
      @m4oni 26 дней назад +2

      Thank you for sharing! i hope people are kind to him, wherever he goes. sadly, some aren't. breaks my heart.

  • @gkvair65
    @gkvair65 26 дней назад

    I think you handled this topic very well, it is obviously a challenging one that needs to be addressed with kindness and love. I think the updates are timely and help give clarity on how to navigate such an important topic.

  • @jaklumen
    @jaklumen 21 день назад +1

    I have seen the policy changes have been covered by other LDS-focused channels (ie content creators who are members). Thank you, Sis. Kaitlyn; for I would say some of the comments on these channels have not been terribly kind.
    My 22-year-old daughter (eldest) is taking HRT therapy. She stopped attending some years back, a bit after graduating from Young Women. Some of it is in regards to a legal name change and many ward members using her birth name.
    My wife and I are in a difficult position-- while we don't agree with our child's decision, we maintain that our eldest child did respect our wishes to wait until they were of legal age to make these decisions. I have read over the policy updates again and.. well, as far as I know, I think my adult child understands. My wife and I are doing the best we can and I hope other members as well as folks outside of the Church understand as such.

  • @doskasfam
    @doskasfam 26 дней назад +4

    Everyone deserves to be able to feel Heavenly Father's love through each of us. Lifestyle choices being seperate from unconditional love like we receive from our Savior.

  • @Sariahrose
    @Sariahrose 21 день назад

    Thank you for reading this! I definitely live under a rock! LoL, Love watching your videos!

  • @dianathefiberfan5116
    @dianathefiberfan5116 25 дней назад

    I think you did great in this video for being such a sensitive topic. I agree with all you said and loving all is the key!

  • @gretchenr2307
    @gretchenr2307 25 дней назад

    We all are children of God. None of us is above another. He loves all, and so should we.❤

  • @BillPowers-qy8bp
    @BillPowers-qy8bp 26 дней назад +3

    I would never say anything to put down someone else. We are to love our brothers and sisters as ourselves. It's the second greatest commandment!

    • @germanslice
      @germanslice 26 дней назад

      Now the transgender members can't use their pronouns anymore or do any kind of transitioning over into another gender
      other than expressing only the gender that they were born with. And if they do use pronouns or do any kind of transitioning
      to another gender, will barr themselves from holding the priesthood or from entering the temple. Bring restrictions on themselves if they want to practice these things..That is what the new changes seem to be saying.
      In other words the changes seem to be saying that The Lord has rejected the transitioning from one gender over into another both physically and also socially. That is going to upset people unfortunately. But the Lord has always been strict in his standards when it comes to gender or the expression of it. That's why he won't allow same sex marriages or transitioning from one gender over into another so he has rejected the practices and customs of the Transgender community just as he has also rejected the practices and customs of the gay community. So nothing has changed with the moral standards in the Church. They are still the same, The church is just making those standards alot more plainer so I see no change at all in the Doctrine..

    • @JCal-f1f
      @JCal-f1f 26 дней назад

      Good for You for better or worse I’m not like you in that. Yes the Church is True but for the very same reasons I know the Church is True I choose Truth over Love. Love has become a misguided concept that in the case of my Evangelical Family have abandoned the Truth of my Cousins Biological distinctive in favor of a Socialized and Groomed belief that she is a Man and as a result will miss out on the blessings of being a Mother or if she is like my Mother will be a particularly bad one because she never lived life in a manner that ever showed to me what a Mommy or a Daddy was by doing because I didn’t have a Father. The Price we pay for neglecting our Duty and Responsibility to teach Truth to our Families will be the Destruction warned about in the Family Proclamation. We have to say. No to the Philosophies.

    • @germanslice
      @germanslice 26 дней назад

      @@JCal-f1f You are viewing it from your perspective and not from their perspective so you may not be aware of the bar of difficulty that's involved in what the Lord is asking them to do.
      Not all of them can take on family responsibilities in this life when they have such difficult challenges facing them such as gender confusion. So they may have to take them on those family responsibilities during the Millennium and just keep the law of chastity here in this life in order to qualify for those other blessings ...
      You cannot expect them to take on serious family responsibilities when they are in the middle of a having deep gender identity crisis with themselves.
      With time running out, I see no other way to get the LGBT through expect for what Elder Holland has said to the youth and to the LGBT members about living the law of chastity in order to qualify for blessings if not receive all the blessings right now in this life, can receive them later on during the Millennium.. This is to do with marriage and family responsiblities to the opposite gender.
      I see no other way of them getting through if the SSA or gender confusion does not reverse itself and its a trial to remain instead of being removed. Then living the law of chastity is the only way they can get the blessings.

  • @kimberlyolsen9416
    @kimberlyolsen9416 26 дней назад +2

    A timely message presented with love and care. Thanks Kaitlyn ♥️

  • @RLDRemembrance
    @RLDRemembrance 26 дней назад +1

    I love you and agree with you, thank you so much for this video and I'm sending all of my love your way!

  • @christinaking1435
    @christinaking1435 26 дней назад

    Great job! This is a tough one to speak about for sure. I agree with you. Love everyone, treat them with kindness but truth is truth. It doesn't change. So grateful to have a living prophet and apostles on the earth today! ❤

  • @darlouthia5153
    @darlouthia5153 26 дней назад +2

    This is curiously a very Utah subject. Sure it happens outside of Utah but there is a huge and active community that isn’t seeking true alignment with Christ but a justification of their position.
    I do believe that being kind to all is a tenet of our faith. Treating others as Christ would is essential.
    All are children of God.
    Satan wants to confuse that as much as possible because by having doubt that we are even a child of God puts the potential of that child in peril.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @porky552
    @porky552 25 дней назад

    When gender euphoria was a mental illness as it should be, the success rate for treatment was about 38%. The suicide rate was high at about 35%. Now that this condition has been politicized, those identifying as transgender as increased. Treatment has declined and transitioning procedures have increased but suicide remains high at 37%. Those who genuinely suffer from gender euphoria probably make up less than 1% of the male population. Many today that claim sexual identity crises do so through other motivations than gender euphoria. We should always have compassion and understanding toward any mentally challenged person regardless what that condition may be. The churches policy toward transgender treatment provides a solid direction but with compassion. Hopefully those folks suffering from mental disturbances to the point of taking one’s own life, will please go to the Bishop and seek help. You are not alone. You are loved and the Lord wants you to heal.

  • @cdmbcgm
    @cdmbcgm 26 дней назад

    Great job with a tough subject. We have to remember they are joining the church because they hear the Shepard's voice. Some can't fulfill all the commandment (marriage or temple ordances), but they believe in Christ and are willing to abide by the law of chastity and their baptism covenant. Are they better off amongst us than in the world? Yes. Some that come into the Church or born into the church that struggle with SSA, find a way to love and marry someone of the opposite sex. The Lord loves those in the LGBT+ community and wants them to come to him and let go of Babylon.

    • @jaklumen
      @jaklumen 21 день назад +1

      I deal with SSA, and so does my wife-- yet we were sealed and have lived worthy of our covenants to remain married for the past 25 years. Like anyone, we accessed the miracles of repentance and forgiveness and we had to work to realize all our blessings.
      That said, our oldest child does deal with gender dysphoria and for now identifies in part as trans.
      None of this is easy. Is living the Gospel still worth it? Yes. Absolutely.

  • @Jeanie-nv7lo
    @Jeanie-nv7lo 25 дней назад

    Caitlyn - Hebrews:11:1 gives us an understanding of what real faith is. We do not have blind faith. We SEE and EXPERIENCE the evidence of things hoped for (that is the existence of God and Christ and the reality of their plan of Salvation). Alma:30:44.... all things denote there is a God - planets and creation etc. We have evidence enough that God exists. Then we put our faith in him into action and experiment on his word Alma:32:27.... and pray about our faith in action... God will give us a Spiritual witness. Learning truth through the communication of the spirit is the richest truth source we have. Sat-an's trick is to make us believe we only have 5 senses. I hope this all helps.

  • @JCal-f1f
    @JCal-f1f 26 дней назад +3

    Overall, I think the changes to the handbook are the most perfect answer to a problem, which is a plague on the harmony and order that are our modern Society should have instead of contradictory ideas in which my relatives cannot seem to as evangelical Christians balance love and truth simultaneously. Making a distinction between biological and social transitioning is critical. After the conversation I had with my aunt recently.. the brethren just set us on a course that will steer the church towards a secure foundation. I hope they will in the near future canonize the family proclamation..

    • @christinaking1435
      @christinaking1435 26 дней назад

      So true, such a tough subject to speak about, love everyone and treat them respectfully, but in the end truth is truth. Society doesn't change that. God can't even change that. I wish there was an easy button to fix this but there's not. The Church leaders are doing the best they can and they have to keep the church moving in the right direction. I do pray for our brothers & sisters that suffer with this trial.

    • @JCal-f1f
      @JCal-f1f 26 дней назад

      @@christinaking1435 well, there is a certainty that in my patriarchal blessing it says, be kind to those you labor with and to be patient with other members who are trying to do their best. Kindness is something that I do inherently lack as a core foundation because I favor truth over kindness. Such as finding the restoration. And tirelessly trying to tell family members of what I found to which they regarded me with suspicion and thought that the only reason I was so passionate about these things was a false belief on their part that I was obligated to say those things so that I could get into heaven is what they believed and perhaps still believe to this day ultimately, I shared with them everything that I could. And even after all those years they still don’t believe what I have to say and will not read the book of Mormon. And yet it also says that I need to be kind to myself, so there is really only so much we can do. But I am truly grateful for the brethren, holding fast against the darkness. And the same people that will not read the book of Mormon are falling away from the principles that they were raised with.

  • @tuvoca825
    @tuvoca825 26 дней назад +1

    Church is like heaven... if they show up, I will assume they earned it.
    I know the basic doctrine, but I don't know much about how to apply it sometimes.
    But charity is always the right answer. It is the one thing that can't coexist with narcissistic pride in us... their traits are opposties.

    • @JCal-f1f
      @JCal-f1f 26 дней назад

      @@tuvoca825 like my cousin screaming at Relatives who call Her by her Biological Gender and people in my Evangelical Family can’t seem to decide whether she is a Boy or a Girl. The symptom which formed from her Constant Trauma on immediate Family to validate her position led to fear of angering Her as members started calling Her Jake, and repeating the phrase. “You better not let Jake hear you say that…” Her actions were the exact opposite of Loving and Kind it was a Battle for who’s Truth will dominate. But the Truth was already set… she can no more redefine the terms then I can say that I am a different Species.But some schools are saying you can be a different Species…

  • @evelyntaylor742
    @evelyntaylor742 25 дней назад

    This policy doesn't personally feel Christlike to me. I felt the same way about the child baptism exclusion policy of 2015 and 3.5 years later that was abandoned. This one won't age well either, imo. Appreciated the care you took in dealing with the topic however... that felt Christlike!

  • @bplionel2
    @bplionel2 26 дней назад +1

    I am saddened because of the trials people are going through. I'm not going to pretend I understand, but it still makes me sad.
    Faith, to me, is trusting in a pattern, that had happened before, so, we can have faith that it will happen in the same (or similar) way the next time. When Faith leads to Christ, we can build that pattern bigger and will be able to show our faith, which helps others build and show their faith.
    Sorry. That might have got away from me. I had to pick up *something* while on a walk.

  • @debgal26
    @debgal26 25 дней назад +1

    I’m sorry I missed what is actually different. I read it before the change and I didn’t notice the difference. I must just not remember.

    • @AnticipatingChristsreturn
      @AnticipatingChristsreturn  25 дней назад +1

      They clarified that if they have socially or medically transitioned then there will be restrictions on certain aspects of worship. ie. temple worship, participating in classes, no overnight camps. Stuff like that.

    • @debgal26
      @debgal26 17 дней назад

      @@AnticipatingChristsreturn oh okay. Thanks 🙏

  • @Cindybin46
    @Cindybin46 26 дней назад +4

    I can't believe our church even addresses this, As I've told our "woke" school district many times, just talking about this kind of stuff puts notions in people's heads, and makes it a THING. It shouldn't be a thing. When I was growing up in the 60s, we never heard of "transgender" or any of those other words. We need to just stop using the terminology.

    • @doskasfam
      @doskasfam 26 дней назад

      Just keep them off your lawn

    • @Mrsthackeray
      @Mrsthackeray 26 дней назад +2

      I appreciate it being addressed because it is an overwhelming issue in our society right now.

    • @doskasfam
      @doskasfam 26 дней назад +3

      Kinda missed the point here imo.

    • @JCal-f1f
      @JCal-f1f 26 дней назад +1

      Actually, they did a pretty good job of defending the standard. You have to set a precedent for future generations.. And trust me as somebody who has family that think they’re something they’re not what is very important to remember is that you start opposing it by saying no this is the reality. This is who you are biologically at a fundamental level and you’re never going to change. You can think you’re something that you’re not but you’re not going to conform society to your imaginations. Because what they are doing is selfish and evil.

    • @N8tron97
      @N8tron97 26 дней назад +1

      To be honest, I’d rather have the church address it, and firmly set where it stands, than them say nothing and have what happened to Kaitlyn’s friend happen over and over again.