Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from Sao Paulo. My great great grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Liutennant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command
"Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from São Paulo. My great-great-grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Lieutenant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command." Acabei de remover este trecho de um comentário em um vídeo na internet sobre os confederados. Particularmente, repudio com veemência as práticas deste grupo e o acho obsoleto, retrógrado e violento. Agora, sobre as pessoas mencionadas no trecho: Stonewall Jackson (Thomas Jonathan Jackson): Foi um dos generais mais renomados do Exército Confederado durante a Guerra Civil Americana (1861-1865). Ele ficou conhecido por sua tática militar audaciosa e pelo sucesso em várias batalhas, especialmente na Primeira Batalha de Bull Run, onde ganhou o apelido "Stonewall" (muralha de pedra). Jackson era extremamente respeitado pelos seus soldados e tornou-se um símbolo dos esforços confederados. No entanto, ele lutava em defesa de um regime que buscava preservar a escravidão. Henry Farrar Steagall: Não encontrei registros históricos de alguém com esse nome servindo sob o comando de Stonewall Jackson.
Rita Lee, one of the most important singers in Brazil, is a descendant of a Confederate family and her surname Lee is a tribute to General Robert Lee. Until recently, one of the ministers of the Supreme Federal Court was also a descendant of a Confederate family, Ellen Gracie Northfleet.
@@JustLifeTravels Rita Lee was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Informação completamente ERRADA , o pai dela era um imigrante americano do inicio do sec 20 e era descendente de indios norte americanos o nome lee segundo ela foi um nome que a familia do pai dela adotou....😂 @@barbaraaraujo7700
@@marcorodrigues1331 Não diria que a fase progressiva dos Mutantes seria "lixo". Acho apenas chata e cópia do que era feito lá fora, ao contrário da fase psicodélica que era rica, interessante e tinha sua singularidade, apesar de ser baseada na psicodelia britânica e americana.
My great grandfather was a lieutenant colonel in the confederate army. He's buried in Texas with a headstone paid for by the US government, inscription reads "Respected foe, gentle soul, a gentleman always. With respect, US Calvary". He died in 1892, and was given a military funeral with honors due to his protecting Union prisoners from abuse.
I live in a town roughly 30 km from Americana, here in the state of São Paulo. People make fun of the accent of the inhabitants of Americana and the surrounding cities, and that's because they speak Portuguese with an English intonation. This documentary was so informative. Thanks guys.
They were very grateful for our country accept them and most principal of SP never felt superior Than any Brazilian, I know well because family is part Tuscan, but this did not happen with the anglos and germanics, all of them wanted to created their country in our country.
Pedro II was not a supporter of the southern United States, but he was afraid of the north interfering in Brazil's geopolitics. He was also not a slave owner. He invited the Americans out of interest in creating cotton crops. He was not the king of Portugal, but only his sister was the queen, and both were born in Brazil. Several Brazilian personalities are descendants of these immigrants who still maintain various aspects of the culture not only of the south but of other parts of the United States.
My ancestors were Confederados. Some of the early settlers came back to America (including mine), because they realized they had "been had" in a scam. Pedro wanted them to build infrastructure like trains, bridges, etc. He wanted their famous American inventiveness and engineering. He promised them boats, and land, and all kinds of riches, but he lied (or at least misled them). They got land and slaves, but not most of what was promised. So some of the Confederados came back to the USA.
In the video titled "Descendente de confederados que fugiram para o Brasil AINDA fala inglês desde 1865" (from the channel "Xiaomanyc 小马在纽约") you will hear a descendant of a Confederate (a 73-year-old Brazilian) speaking in English (which he learned from his Southern American grandmother).
bro what is joe talking about at 12:55, cathedrals like that ARE common in Brazil. We're a portuguese colony for god's sake! We have so many huge and beautiful cathedrals in the historic center of Rio de Janeiro for example, and also at most state capitals around the country. We even have a very touristy catholic city in São Paulo called Aparecida
He was talking about the fact that there's not a lot of churches in neoclassic style here in Brazil. In fact, I think this one is the only one I remember had seen. He is right, you clearly misunderstood him.
@@AlexandreLimberger Nope. It's common in most state capitals around the country, specifically the older ones. pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Arquitetura_neocl%C3%A1ssica_no_Brasil
@@Furyy07 An important, VERY important detail:- Brazil was NOT a Portuguese colony... In the time of the Empire, before the Independence, there WAS NOT a distinction between anyone born in Brazil or in Portugal... It was AN UNITED KINGDOM..... The word colony was introduced later for political discourse reasons.... This word, colony, is a latecomer that beguiles the political reality of Dom João IV and Dom Pedro I before the Independence...
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 Not many Welsh immigrants at the time of the Civil War, but there would have been very large numbers of Welsh descendants. Welsh surnames are extremely common everywhere in the South. Most such immigrants were probably already living in other parts of the UK when they embarked.
No. They left the Imperial federal government of Lincoln to escape the Zimbabwe level kleptocracies of the Reconstruction era military dictatorships, rampant crime and complete looting of private property by the "víctors" of a completely unnecessary war. Stop lying.
Conheci essa História de Americana. É muito importante. O sotaque de vocês soa muito mais fácil para eu entender. Slow English. Parabéns pelo trabalho.
Orthodox, Catholics, and Anglicans do not pray to “idols”. They pray to God. They venerate “honor” symbols such as the cross and holy icons to aid in worship of God.
Bem, só não sabemos se é um Deus universal, algo que nos foi imposto pelo lugar e crença, de onde nascemos ou alguma liderança pré histórica que dominou um povo por causa da sua superioridade tecnológica e militar.
I'm Brazilian and I really appreciate that Americans have interested on this part of our history. We are a mix of many many world cultures but I need to say that this confederate contribution is a very small part and not so a strong influence on the whole country of Brazil. It's something local.
Preserving history and worshipping it are two different things we should definitely be educated on what happened in the past good and bad but there are those that want the “good ol days” to come back and those days unfortunately weren’t so good for all races and backgrounds
Cultural festivals like they hold here are common around the world, also most people living in the area are in some part black or have immigrated from Italy since the end of slavery so in Brazil i think that doesn’t exist at all.
These are actual Americans great great grandfather's. They aren't just historical figures. This is why Southerners get upset when people talk badly about them because you are talking about actual peoples ancestors
@@Willowtree82 what you just said makes absolutely no sense of course its someone’s ancestor, but that doesn’t take away from things done, if my ancestors had been some radical pro violence African American I’d have to accept that and know that people would say some negative things about what they did, same should go for confederates and their decedents a lot of negativity attached to confederates unfortunately and it’s history but again preserving history teaching the truth but not worshipping or giving them praise is the difference, Germany teaches the holocaust but doesn’t praise hitler or the nazis
“A man who came down here who wanted nothing but a simple life in the agricultural business” that’s an interesting way to say he wanted to enslave people. 7:56
@@lucianac4388 WRONG. They built a new life WITH slaves. Those slaves were only freed long AFTER they built their life. Stop dismissing the sins of your ancestors and the hard work of the unpaid labor force they used to build that new life.
Very interesting history. A slight correction. Neither Catholics or Orthodox Christians have idols in their churches they are sacred images of Christ or holy men and women, and they are not worshiped. While Protestants have increased , Brazil has the highest numbers of Catholics in South America. They are part of the 1.5 billion members of the Catholic Church which continues to grow throughout the world.. while the number of protestants continue to decrease worldwide, including the Baptists.
We are specifically referring to Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth" Leviticus 26:1 "You shall make you no idols, neither shall you rear you up a graven image, or a pillar, neither shall you place any figured stone in your land, to bow down unto it" Deuteronomy 4:16 "You shall not make you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters beneath the earth"
@ The Hebrew scriptures prohibition against the making graven images specifically dealt with the worship of the false gods of the canaanites. God Himself commanded Moses to make an image of the cherubim and set it on the ark of the covenant. God commanded Moses to make an image of the serpent and set it on a pole so that the Israelites would look upon it and be healed. God does not contradict himself. Therefore, the difficulty is with the interpretation and application of the scriptural text which is the main problem with Protestantism.
Just to notice that most Catholics in Brazil are just nominal Christians, they even aren't church goers. And the evangelical population is already one third of population.
@@JustLifeTravels There was a LOT good about the Confederates. Look into what Lincoln did after the civil war. He stripped the rights of the states to all be federal, it was all unconstitutional. If YOU believe that the civil war was about slavery, you are a lost cause.
Evangelical Protestantism is actually on the rise all across Brazil and is getting many converts so, even if there wasn’t before there certainly is now. But that is a very interesting question to know how much it spread from the original group of Americans who moved down.
@@JustLifeTravels Baptist and Presbyterian churches exist in all regions of Brazil (in small and large cities), including in the Northeast region, the most Catholic and poor region. Most of them were founded by American missionaries in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.
That’s wonderful. I lived in Brazil (Parana) a couple years but never saw that place. I’m a proud descendant of confederate soldiers. I also love Brazil and the South.
I "love" how every one complains about a symbol that they believe to be morally wrong, with little to no knowledge or willingness to honor our history. For instance, the Georgia state flag was changed just as this was. It previously displayed portions of the confederate battle flag. The current state flag just replaced the confederate battle flag with the actual Confederate States of America flag. Everyone quite complaining.
Yeah the people who complain about the confederate flag tend to be the least educated group about American history in general and don’t really understand any of the symbolism behind anything in this country. They just see something, believe a random idea of its meaning they were told and that’s it.
Well, instead of complaining, I'd like to take this chance to make it a learning moment. We can see, that if the south was uninterrupted, it's still only about as productive as an agrarian society. Don't see any slaves, though he said some were originally brought over, where are they? Looks like the south just went further south, to just die some more. Not very impressive. Looks like your typical southern town, abandoned.
The fastest growing states in the USA are the south, people are fleeing New York, California and several other northern states to go to places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, the Carolina’s. Black Americans are moving in massive numbers to the Atlanta metro. Your point about southern towns being abandoned is pretty hilarious. You are here to make irrelevant points and that’s fine feel free. Honoring peoples history is not an endorsement of their beliefs. If I visit Roman monuments that does not mean I support gladiatorial combat and by leaving up the coliseum and being against ripping it down also does not mean I endorse it.
That’s cool, makes sense with him being southern himself. I’m also from the south so for me it was cool to see a piece of a specific American culture in such a foreign place.
Hardly anyone knows about this chapter in America,, it is history, I'm glad the guys recognized the "battle flag of northern Virginia", it was barely flown in the civil war,, Hollywood made the flag popular and was in every civil war movie and the Dukes of Hazzard adapted the paint scheme of the gen Lee was in fact Dodge put out in 1969 not the t.v. show. Great video, I really enjoyed it!!👍👍
I couldn’t agree with you both more. If it wasn’t obvious by my thumbnail, I love history. It makes me so happy when. I see young ppl that also love history because I don’t see it enough. And you’re right, there isn’t a culture that has a pure clean history. It’s important to preserve history as it is, not what we wish it were.
Fun fact: the state of Bahia played a small part in the American civil war, when the CSS Florida was attacked and captured by the USS Wachusset, while in the port of Salvador for repairs and refueling in 1864. There were popular protests against the union, including a attack on the American consulate. This act violated Brazil's sovereignty and international rules of neutrality, generating a serious diplomatic crisis between Brazil and the United States. Unfortunately, the Confederates did not create colonies in the state of Bahia, their territory geographically resembles the states of Texas and Oklahoma.
It would’ve been cool to hear from more locals, see how they look different from Portuguese-descended Brazilians, or hear the differences in dialect being that their ancestors came from the American South.
Fully agree I wish we could have found some, but the original population who founded it has been outnumbered by immigrants mainly from Italy aswell as having mixed with other Brazilians and lost their identity or moved to other areas of Brazil.
I truly hope that I misread the signals and that you guys are fair minded and good guys. You’re so young and you have presents and can make a difference. I’m rooting for you.
I appreciate that they consider themselves all as Brazilian citizens…in the states , even though I’m Swedish, I consider myself an American or a citizen of the United States…never a Swedish American
"Leftists" and "leave peacefull people alone" never works in the same sentence. It was all fine with black people happy in the parties untill these "woke" folks start the drama. Noisy, useless minority trying to import 1st world nonsensical problems to a country with so many real ones.
@@RhondaRachel2003 Which meaning? These americans just celebrate their heritage. They wanted to live independently in the South, then they tried to do the same in Brazil. As a brazilian and their neighbors I see no problem with either, much on the contrary, its inspiring to see the desire for not bowing down to others. Some values were once wrong, but I'm sure not a single one of them supports slavery nowadays, and the core value which is independence remains. It's much more praiseworthy than Brazil's founding value which was just to exploit the land and its people, which is something that remains ever since the military coup ended the Empire.
I think the best catholic Brazilian cathedral is in São Paulo called Catedral da Sé, Petrópolis also has a nice Gothic cathedral where the remains of emperor Dom Pedro II lays.
(Forgive me for this diversion, but the announcer in the black T-shirt is GORGEOUS! And he's built like an NFL Linebacker!) Okay, I'm back. This has been an excellent presentation of invaluable American history that I have NEVER heard of. Thanks again
The rectangular version of the battle flag first appeared in January 1864 and was commissioned by Gen. Joseph Johnston. It was the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee.
Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
@@JustLifeTravels Do you accept everything in the book of exodus or you get to pick and choose? Don't be ignorant....understand the context and it doesn't mean what you think it means. Has nothing to do with icons or images on walls in Churches. No one is worshiping those.
Podem falar o que quiserem por aí mas, mas eu gosto muito dos Americanos, dos EUA, SEMPRE estiveram a disposição de. Ajudar o Brasil e nós Brasileiros, SOMOS IRMÃOS INSEPARÁVEIS DAS AMÉRICAS 😊
Today, most of the ppl in Americana and Santa Barbara d'Oeste are of Italian descent, since they became the majority in this region at the turn of the 19th century. Also, First Lady, Rosalynn Carter, had great uncles that settled in said region around 1866.
@@JustLifeTravels SP also has one of the largest Japanese descended populations in the world as well as a large Korean population and large numbers of Middle Eastern descent.
My ancestry is Austrian. Both my brothers were born in Innsbruck. Dad was born in Graz. I was born here in Chicago. We have lived here since the early 1970s. With all of that said I would ask you: is that the Brazilian English accent?
I watched a video these days of two other american youtubers about the same topic and they managed to interview briefly one or two people related to confederate acestry, will try to find out in my history list and post it here.
This is something that should be in our American history books in school. This is as important as any other migration to or fro. I myself just recently learned of this through a language channel,that interviewed a few who still spoke English with a US southern accent without ever visiting the US.
Southerners know. I take it you aren't Southern? It's amazing how the war in the US is taught differently in the non Southern states. Did you know the monuments and the bases that were named after confederates majority were gifted by the US government during reconstruction as a way to recognize them as American veterans, many whose families secured the country from the English crown
Very, very, very interesting! I knew about the migration of Confederates to Brazil, but I knew no details about it - AT ALL! Brazil is a true "metling pot" where past identities have been replaced by national identity. The U.S. has done just the reverse with nationalistic and racial identity becoming the dominate identifier. We are a nation of "tribes" today more than ever before and will be even more so in the future. I subscribed.
Brazilian national identity is a unifying concept, but many people in the South and Southeast of Brazil, regions where there has been a lot of immigration, still identify themselves by their ethnicity, as in the USA, such as Italian-Brazilians, Japanese-Brazilians and German-Brazilians.
@@JustLifeTravels There more millionaires per capita in the World 🌎 in Natchez, Mississippi before the civil war was stated. So I am led to believe that a lot of these citizens must have fled there as well. I would love to find out and know more about this.😊
As a 54 y/o woman, it's refreshing to know there are still young men like you who can appreciate our history. Too many young people are just just so left in their ideology. I thought you all were extinct! 🙂
Correction to what u said... the statues are not idols...they are representations (and reminders of the religious/historical person depicted) but RC are not praying to the actual statues.... I can see how that can be confusing to understand.
Awesome video my family. The Tracy’s were in the confederacy there used to be a bronze bust of Edward D Tracy at Arlington. That is my great grandfather times five that’s on my mom side of the family on my dad side of the family. We were in the union army so as they say family fighting family love your guys’s videos. Keep up the great work.🇺🇸❤️✝️ oh, I’m also Irish and southern Baptist raised must be a thing👍
Great to hear, I had family on both sides too. Certainly a complicated time for many families especially in the border areas. Glad to hear your family has a place of honor in Arlington because both sides soldiers fought for what they thought was right.
@ thanks for the reply. Safe travels. You have a big fan in Coach Sperling here in Lodi California home of the Lodi 🏈 Flames ❤️🇺🇸✝️ God bless you guys and all that you do.
The city of Santa Barbara d'Oeste has some residential streets named for some prominent Confederate families who settled in that part of Sao Paulo State.
It’s interesting that the gentleman said that the Confederates came down to Brazil to be simple farmers. When they were in the United States, they were not simple farmers. They were some of the richest people in the United States before the war. Why would they leave the United States to be sample farmers? I think he’s being misleading. I think they created their way of life down there, which was based on a foundation of slavery
Many slave owners were rich but not all or even most, yes they moved to Brazil to continue slavery because Brazil was the main destination for slaves in the Americas and continued the practice after it was ended in the USA.
Well you idiots don’t even use the right flag…. That’s not the stars and bars that’s the battle flag! Which was made after due to the confusion in having similar flags on opposing sides
@@JustLifeTravelsAdolf’s Germany lasted longer than the Confederacy. Just because some people in our past were misguided and tried to keep it alive doesn’t make it ok. But at the end of the day, it’s your right to say and display what you wish as a private citizen, but as private citizen, I’ll express as many others will that we believe it’s distasteful.
Yes. People should preserve history no matter how horrible certain points of history were. Also, I don’t think that confederate flag should’ve been taken down. It’s a part of history and the origin of that place.
The Confederacy fought for limited goverment (states rights) and limited taxation. Yankees fought for Rail road robber Barrons and tax rebellion. Yankees need to apologize to Dixieland.
Nothing wrong with the confederates ! The north was the one in the wrong Look now all the zoo beasts are let loose ?? A real circus American has become
The greatest rock singer in Brazil rita lee descendant from a Confederate family and her surname was a tribute to General Lee. She were very famous and considered an icon in brazil. Unfortunately she passed away recently.
@@giuseppemoretti2311 Yeah, Rita Lee Jones was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Back in 2003 I was working as an Engineer in Amazon. In the town of Santarém on the Amazon I was attending a festival that had American style square dancing. I was surprised to find out that they were descendents of the Confederates that settled along the Amazon and started plantations after the Civil War. Many still had last names Jones, Johnson, Washington etc. The square dance caller still used the English words but was hard to make out with the accent changed over time. The plantations at the time were still operated with slaves from Africa. Slavery in Brazil continued over 20 years after slavery end in the US. Over 2 million slaves were imported into the US during slavery but during that same period Brazil imported 3 million. Local indigenous tribes never worked out and would escape to the jungles. A sad note to History.
You shouldn’t bottle up culture and heritage into museums or else you have a soulless and worthless society. History should be seen and understood not put in a place to be viewed as separate from the people whose family made it.
I liked so much of this vídeo, I was born and still living in Americana. I am so proud of this story, the Americans brought the cotton and the industrie, it was very important to the City development, unfortunately the English has not been spoken anymore here, I also like to tell this story to my friends. Keep going guys, you will always welcome in Americana.
It is fascinating to know our roots and preserve this knowledge for other generations, to understand mistakes and leave them in the past. Regarding flags, I believe some of them should never be raised again. Even though they have many meanings, what made them widely known is what will be remembered first.
Bro my Great grandpa was a slave owner and speaks about his friends moving her after the war in the letters he wrote to my great grandmother. He never served. But he spoke about all the local slave owners selling land and moving to brazil
Deam this was uploaded only a month later then mine but it must have been filmed a the year before if you guys were there around Christmas. The immigration museum was neat, not that big but it was nice to give the video a little bit more different places instead of just the cemetery. Also who let you guys into the cemetery if you couldn't find any confederate dependents?
We just arrived when the grounds keeper was there by luck, he let us in. Yeah I wish we had gotten in to the museum. We released this way way after we initially filmed it, you are right it was around December.
@@JustLifeTravels Ahh makes sense though I'm pretty sure that the grounds keeper though he didn't speak English must've been a decedent as well. Nice to hear a response from you guys. and I know what it's like to have old footage laying around I've got a whole mountain of it and editing takes so much work, doesn't help how much of a perfectionist I am but I belief that the quality is worth the time investment
Sou brasileira. Toda história, seja seu lado bonito ou feio, deve ser lembrada e preservada, mesmo que seja para o conhecimento pela geração atual e futura para que saibam que certas coisas não devem ser repetidas. Se no Brasil houve também a escravidão e os brasileiros preservam essa história através de museus, monumentos, livros e até mesmo ensinando nas escolas, não vejo nada de errado nos descendentes dos confederados fazerem o mesmo. A história ocorreu, não tem como negá-la. Negá-la seria tentar esconder a sujeira embaixo do tapete. Uma coisa é preservar e contar a história como ocorreu exatamente e discutir sobre ela e outra coisa é querer que ela seja revivida, que ela ocorra novamente (e isso sim é que não deve ocorrer. O passado deve ser contado, mas deve continuar no passado). O fim da escravidão no Brasil ocorreu oficialmente em 13 de maio de 1888, portanto, todos os que moravam no Brasil tiveram que aceitar esse fato e se adaptar a essa nova situação, inclusive os confederados que vieram para o Brasil. Eu li alguns artigos e assisti vídeos sobre esse festival confederado que ocorre todos os anos no mês de abril. Pelo que eu percebi, o festival não é para reviver e/ou vangloriar a escravidão, mas sim para preservar outros costumes e a cultura sulista da mesma época, afinal, apesar da escravidão, os confederados sulistas também tinham sua própria cultura: suas vestimentas, seu estilo musical, sua culinária, etc (e acredito que são esses outros aspectos que o festival se propõe a mostrar, não havendo mais nada de racismo nesse festival, afinal, atualmente o racismo é crime no Brasil). Assistam os vídeos com os títulos abaixo: "FESTA CONFEDERADA NO BRASIL Viagem na Historia", do canal Viagem na Historia "Festa Descendentes confederados norteamericanos - São Paulo - Brasil", do canal Fabyn
Howdy. There is a Ghanian word, Sankofa, the literal translation of the word is “it is not taboo to fetch what is at risk of being left behind.” Meaning it is important to know your history so you are not destined to repeat it. So yes, it is true that you should not forget your history, history should also not be used as a weapon of hate. Consider this, no one cared about the battle flag until the KKK started using it. In history, every time the battle flag has come to the forefront of conversations it has been because it was used as a tool/symbol of hate. Starting with "The Birth of a Nation; 1915, Bloody Summer; 1919, Tulsa massacre, 1921 and the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. We should remember the horrific parts of the past as a teacher not honor it. In my opinion, their flag is a place of honor. So yes it was valid to remove the image of the battle flag, from their flag. Side note a cool thing about some of those Confederado descendants is they still carry a slight southern accent and cook “southern” style food like fried chicken and corn bread.
Yeah it is very unfortunate that the kkk picked the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia to be one of their symbols, but they also picked the cross as a symbol and I do not think jt should be removed as a hate symbol either.
I believe that we should be students of history, remembering the past and acknowledging it for what it was through the lens of truth and justice...THAT is the only way to avoid repeating history. Some look at historical and cultural gaffes of yesteryear and develop a sense of nostalgia. As a history buff myself (and descendant of a condeferate soldier), I believe that most historical relics like the old Dixie flag have their place in safe keeping in a very nice museum. Only those which stand the test of time as products of truth and justice derserve their place in the public sphere! Public expression of culture and history ought to represent the best of who we are! I' l
If people start trying to be the arbiters of what is good enough for the public sphere like you suggest history is bound to be perverted and the perceptions reinforced despite the reality of good or bad which is all based on the current perception of an action which will naturally change with time. The majority of the negative connotation that comes with the confederate battle flag of the army of northern Virginia came about in the 1960s 100 years after it last flew over the battlefield. When people fly the 13 star American flag it is also the flag of a nation that enshrined slavery into itself. Brazils has a much longer and larger history of slavery that is also much darker but no one suggests removing Brazilian flags from the public sphere. If you go to some of our Nigeria videos there are statues to honor the African chiefs who would go out and capture slaves to trade and they are thought of as warriors and strong men who fought for their own tribe, their statues should also not be torn down and their names forgotten, I don’t even think it’s wrong to judge it as morally wrong for the locals perception of them being positive.
"Sancto Antonio Hujus Civitatis Patrono". I think it means "Saint Anthony is the patron of this city". Known as Saint Anthony of Padua, Italy, he was born in Lisbon, Portugal. The church was built by italian immigrants though. Although a believer, I'm not religious, but I love visiting cathedrals and other beautiful, intricate buildings. I visited Almudena in Madrid, some in Toledo I forgot, Sagrada Familia in Barcelona (outside only, too much trouble to get in), Notre Dame de la Garde in Marseille (missed La Major though), San Lorenzo in Genova, Mosta Dome in Malta, and Palma Cathedral in Mallorca...but I NEVER, ever visited this beautiful cathedral that is literally 8min drive from me. Shameful, lol This was the first time I saw it from inside and I'll definitely gonna visit it now, so thank you for reminding me how much of a fool I am.
Glad we could get you to swing by! It’s like that for me too, I’ll love next to some tourist attraction and tell myself I can go anytime and then end up never going. We always try to visit cathedrals whenever we get the chance, you’ll see a lot of them in our videos especially in Catholic or other Christian countries. In the Mexico videos we have made there are tons
Exodus 20:4-5: "You must not make any idols. Don't make any statues or pictures of anything up in the sky or of anything on the earth or of anything down in the water. Don't worship or serve idols of any kind, because I, the LORD, am your God"
That’s very true, we actually made a video in Nigeria and the place they kept slaves there was actually named after Brazil because so many were sent there specifically.
I actually live in Americana and althought is important to preserve history and heritage, and despite people say they don't share the same thoughts of their ancestors, it is a little controversy cause for instance there is this "confederates party" in Santa Barbara D'oeste a town next Americana, where people are often seen carrying dog whistles wich can be interpretated as a white supremacy symbol. This happens due to the stigma upon confederates and so people might see those spaces as a safe place to bring up their ideals to the surface. Also, i heard the relate of a black friend of mines who once popped up at this party without knowledge of confederates history, and she felt mistreated, like people were uncomfortable with her and her family presence.
So they migrated to Brazil in 1866, after the Civil War, and some brought slaves with them? How did they do that after the slaves were freed? Did the slaves come willingly?
It’s possible that they did, most slaves would have been purchased in Brazil but there are several records that indicate that many older former slaves wished they didn’t have to be free. That is very much a minority of the cases but there were some slaves that did prefer it for one reason or another.
No estado de são Paulo fundaram a cidade de nome americana. No Estado de Goiás há muitos descendentes de americanos, inclusive alguns artistas de cinema americano tinham terras e passavam as férias no Brasil.
Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from Sao Paulo. My great great grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Liutennant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command
That’s great! I wish we had found a person like you to interview while we were there. Great to see people are still connected to their heritage.
"Hi fellows! Here is Arthur Steagall Condé from São Paulo. My great-great-grandfather was Henry Farrar Steagall, 2nd Lieutenant who fought many battles under Stonewall Jackson's command." Acabei de remover este trecho de um comentário em um vídeo na internet sobre os confederados. Particularmente, repudio com veemência as práticas deste grupo e o acho obsoleto, retrógrado e violento.
Agora, sobre as pessoas mencionadas no trecho:
Stonewall Jackson (Thomas Jonathan Jackson): Foi um dos generais mais renomados do Exército Confederado durante a Guerra Civil Americana (1861-1865). Ele ficou conhecido por sua tática militar audaciosa e pelo sucesso em várias batalhas, especialmente na Primeira Batalha de Bull Run, onde ganhou o apelido "Stonewall" (muralha de pedra). Jackson era extremamente respeitado pelos seus soldados e tornou-se um símbolo dos esforços confederados. No entanto, ele lutava em defesa de um regime que buscava preservar a escravidão.
Henry Farrar Steagall: Não encontrei registros históricos de alguém com esse nome servindo sob o comando de Stonewall Jackson.
Pesquisou nas fontes erradas. Lamento seu fracasso
yeah right
It is racist though ?
Rita Lee, one of the most important singers in Brazil, is a descendant of a Confederate family and her surname Lee is a tribute to General Robert Lee. Until recently, one of the ministers of the Supreme Federal Court was also a descendant of a Confederate family, Ellen Gracie Northfleet.
That’s great never knew it! Thanks for that
@@JustLifeTravels Rita Lee was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Informação completamente ERRADA , o pai dela era um imigrante americano do inicio do sec 20 e era descendente de indios norte americanos o nome lee segundo ela foi um nome que a familia do pai dela adotou....😂 @@barbaraaraujo7700
@@barbaraaraujo7700Os Mutantes were awesome at the beginning when they played psychedelic, then they switched to progressive and became garbage
@@marcorodrigues1331 Não diria que a fase progressiva dos Mutantes seria "lixo". Acho apenas chata e cópia do que era feito lá fora, ao contrário da fase psicodélica que era rica, interessante e tinha sua singularidade, apesar de ser baseada na psicodelia britânica e americana.
My great grandfather was a lieutenant colonel in the confederate army. He's buried in Texas with a headstone paid for by the US government, inscription reads "Respected foe, gentle soul, a gentleman always. With respect, US Calvary". He died in 1892, and was given a military funeral with honors due to his protecting Union prisoners from abuse.
That’s a great story and for sure someone to be proud to be related to. A man of honor.
his body*
I live in a town roughly 30 km from Americana, here in the state of São Paulo. People make fun of the accent of the inhabitants of Americana and the surrounding cities, and that's because they speak Portuguese with an English intonation. This documentary was so informative. Thanks guys.
Glad you enjoyed! We loved our visit down there
That accent is so cool yet surprising to hear coming from that region.
That beautiful church is the Church of St Anthony built by Italian immigrants in 1886. It is beautiful!
Appreciate the info! It was certainly grand.
They were very grateful for our country accept them and most principal of SP never felt superior Than any Brazilian, I know well because family is part Tuscan, but this did not happen with the anglos and germanics, all of them wanted to created their country in our country.
O Brasil é um mix de praticamente todos os povos do planeta! (Brazil is a mix of practically all the people on the planet!)
100% True
Amazing work guys! We have to remember history, it should never be destroyed!
I totally agree
Its neat to see we have cousins in Brazil. Hello CSA family. San Paulo looks beautiful
Yeah it’s great seeing a niche American culture inside of Brazil.
Pedro II was not a supporter of the southern United States, but he was afraid of the north interfering in Brazil's geopolitics. He was also not a slave owner. He invited the Americans out of interest in creating cotton crops. He was not the king of Portugal, but only his sister was the queen, and both were born in Brazil. Several Brazilian personalities are descendants of these immigrants who still maintain various aspects of the culture not only of the south but of other parts of the United States.
My ancestors were Confederados. Some of the early settlers came back to America (including mine), because they realized they had "been had" in a scam. Pedro wanted them to build infrastructure like trains, bridges, etc. He wanted their famous American inventiveness and engineering. He promised them boats, and land, and all kinds of riches, but he lied (or at least misled them). They got land and slaves, but not most of what was promised. So some of the Confederados came back to the USA.
Okay thanks
In the video titled "Descendente de confederados que fugiram para o Brasil AINDA fala inglês desde 1865" (from the channel "Xiaomanyc 小马在纽约") you will hear a descendant of a Confederate (a 73-year-old Brazilian) speaking in English (which he learned from his Southern American grandmother).
Thanks!
Thank you guys for sharing this! 👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾
Glad you enjoyed!
bro what is joe talking about at 12:55, cathedrals like that ARE common in Brazil. We're a portuguese colony for god's sake! We have so many huge and beautiful cathedrals in the historic center of Rio de Janeiro for example, and also at most state capitals around the country. We even have a very touristy catholic city in São Paulo called Aparecida
For real, no idea what Jo was thinking 😂
He was talking about the fact that there's not a lot of churches in neoclassic style here in Brazil. In fact, I think this one is the only one I remember had seen. He is right, you clearly misunderstood him.
@@AlexandreLimberger Nope. It's common in most state capitals around the country, specifically the older ones. pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Arquitetura_neocl%C3%A1ssica_no_Brasil
@@AlexandreLimberger go to the old city center in Rio de Janeiro and you'll see at least 3 of these, they're majestic
@@Furyy07 An important, VERY important detail:- Brazil was NOT a Portuguese colony... In the time of the Empire, before the Independence, there WAS NOT a distinction between anyone born in Brazil or in Portugal... It was AN UNITED KINGDOM.....
The word colony was introduced later for political discourse reasons.... This word, colony, is a latecomer that beguiles the political reality of Dom João IV and Dom Pedro I before the Independence...
This is mind blowing. Thanks for the video.
Glad you enjoyed, it is crazy that confederates ended up down there for sure.
Many of those "Mc" surnames were Scottish, not all were Irish
Of course that does make sense there were a lot more Scottish in the south at the time too.
Scotch Irish. Our ancestors were Scottish who came from Ulster Ireland. They left Scotland for Ulster then to the US
Were there any Welsh immigrants in DIXIE?
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 oh yes
@@edwardamosbrandwein3583 Not many Welsh immigrants at the time of the Civil War, but there would have been very large numbers of Welsh descendants. Welsh surnames are extremely common everywhere in the South. Most such immigrants were probably already living in other parts of the UK when they embarked.
And slavery. Don’t forget they went there because slavery was still legal
Yeah, their reasoning was nowhere near noble but it’s the reality of the history of the families that founded the place.
No. They left the Imperial federal government of Lincoln to escape the Zimbabwe level kleptocracies of the Reconstruction era military dictatorships, rampant crime and complete looting of private property by the "víctors" of a completely unnecessary war.
Stop lying.
@@JustLifeTravelsdude u a whole goofy sad mfs aint never even played a sport
I doubt that
You do realize that the war wasn’t about slaves lmao and regular guys didn’t have slaves only very rich did. Very rich don’t fight wars.
Conheci essa História de Americana. É muito importante. O sotaque de vocês soa muito mais fácil para eu entender. Slow English. Parabéns pelo trabalho.
Thanks very much! Glad we were able to make it understandable for you and I hope you get a chance to check the place out for yourself!
Orthodox, Catholics, and Anglicans do not pray to “idols”. They pray to God. They venerate “honor” symbols such as the cross and holy icons to aid in worship of God.
Ou seja: Idólatras!😅😅😅
@@filadelfiaresgatarvidas5468 Você é analfabeto hein
Bem, só não sabemos se é um Deus universal, algo que nos foi imposto pelo lugar e crença, de onde nascemos ou alguma liderança pré histórica que dominou um povo por causa da sua superioridade tecnológica e militar.
Você fundou mais uma "Church garage", e quer falar dos Católicos e Ortodoxos. Algo de errado não está certo 😅. @@filadelfiaresgatarvidas5468
@@Seutonto There is only one God, ONE creator. What do you mean by "universal God"?
I'm Brazilian and I really appreciate that Americans have interested on this part of our history. We are a mix of many many world cultures but I need to say that this confederate contribution is a very small part and not so a strong influence on the whole country of Brazil. It's something local.
Glad you enjoyed, we had a fun time visiting Brazil and getting to see a few cities but I wish we could have seen more!
Thank god its local. Its disgusting.
Thats just amazing. Im definitely attending their festival. Just googled it and it seems to be very beautiful. History should never be censored.
Yea we want to go to the festival very much also I hope you enjoy it when you go. Thank you for enjoying the video.
@@JustLifeTravelsmay all those who dies fighting for slavery never rest in peace ❤
@@73200grandison oh, the "love" narrative...
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed!
Preserving history and worshipping it are two different things we should definitely be educated on what happened in the past good and bad but there are those that want the “good ol days” to come back and those days unfortunately weren’t so good for all races and backgrounds
Cultural festivals like they hold here are common around the world, also most people living in the area are in some part black or have immigrated from Italy since the end of slavery so in Brazil i think that doesn’t exist at all.
America was not established as a multicultural experiment. The Naturalization Act of 1790 address these revisionist arguments.
These are actual Americans great great grandfather's. They aren't just historical figures. This is why Southerners get upset when people talk badly about them because you are talking about actual peoples ancestors
@@Willowtree82 what you just said makes absolutely no sense of course its someone’s ancestor, but that doesn’t take away from things done, if my ancestors had been some radical pro violence African American I’d have to accept that and know that people would say some negative things about what they did, same should go for confederates and their decedents a lot of negativity attached to confederates unfortunately and it’s history but again preserving history teaching the truth but not worshipping or giving them praise is the difference, Germany teaches the holocaust but doesn’t praise hitler or the nazis
@@Willowtree82 Yankees do not value human life at all. Making these arguments agaisnt their "beliefs" is a waste of time.
“A man who came down here who wanted nothing but a simple life in the agricultural business” that’s an interesting way to say he wanted to enslave people. 7:56
Yeah it’s kinda a joke on the dark history of the place.
50% of the slave owners and plantation owners in Louisiana alone were black. you should probably do some research.
Yes maybe that was their intention but they stayed and built a new life for them without slavery. They built a nice community.
@@lucianac4388
WRONG. They built a new life WITH slaves. Those slaves were only freed long AFTER they built their life.
Stop dismissing the sins of your ancestors and the hard work of the unpaid labor force they used to build that new life.
Very interesting history. A slight correction. Neither Catholics or Orthodox Christians have idols in their churches they are sacred images of Christ or holy men and women, and they are not worshiped. While Protestants have increased , Brazil has the highest numbers of Catholics in South America. They are part of the 1.5 billion members of the Catholic Church which continues to grow throughout the world.. while the number of protestants continue to decrease worldwide, including the Baptists.
We are specifically referring to
Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
Leviticus 26:1
"You shall make you no idols, neither shall you rear you up a graven image, or a pillar, neither shall you place any figured stone in your land, to bow down unto it"
Deuteronomy 4:16
"You shall not make you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters beneath the earth"
@ The Hebrew scriptures prohibition against the making graven images specifically dealt with the worship of the false gods of the canaanites. God Himself commanded Moses to make an image of the cherubim and set it on the ark of the covenant. God commanded Moses to make an image of the serpent and set it on a pole so that the Israelites would look upon it and be healed. God does not contradict himself. Therefore, the difficulty is with the interpretation and application of the scriptural text which is the main problem with Protestantism.
@JustLifeTravels I remember when CPAC made a golden image of Trump 😂
Just to notice that most Catholics in Brazil are just nominal Christians, they even aren't church goers. And the evangelical population is already one third of population.
@@JustLifeTravelsdon’t forget. Don’t eat pork or wear polyester.
Not racist, it was much more than people think. There's good and bad in all things unfortunately only one part of that was is taught.
Exactly
What about Jim Crow laws? What was so good about those confederates?
@@JustLifeTravels There was a LOT good about the Confederates. Look into what Lincoln did after the civil war. He stripped the rights of the states to all be federal, it was all unconstitutional. If YOU believe that the civil war was about slavery, you are a lost cause.
@karmalima3633
That was after these confederates moved to Brasil.
So are there Baptist church,Presbyterian,other anglo church in amercana Brazil.
Evangelical Protestantism is actually on the rise all across Brazil and is getting many converts so, even if there wasn’t before there certainly is now. But that is a very interesting question to know how much it spread from the original group of Americans who moved down.
@@JustLifeTravels Baptist and Presbyterian churches exist in all regions of Brazil (in small and large cities), including in the Northeast region, the most Catholic and poor region. Most of them were founded by American missionaries in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.
That’s wonderful. I lived in Brazil (Parana) a couple years but never saw that place. I’m a proud descendant of confederate soldiers. I also love Brazil and the South.
Great to hear! We had a good time on our trip down there too
I "love" how every one complains about a symbol that they believe to be morally wrong, with little to no knowledge or willingness to honor our history. For instance, the Georgia state flag was changed just as this was. It previously displayed portions of the confederate battle flag. The current state flag just replaced the confederate battle flag with the actual Confederate States of America flag. Everyone quite complaining.
Yeah the people who complain about the confederate flag tend to be the least educated group about American history in general and don’t really understand any of the symbolism behind anything in this country. They just see something, believe a random idea of its meaning they were told and that’s it.
Well, instead of complaining, I'd like to take this chance to make it a learning moment.
We can see, that if the south was uninterrupted, it's still only about as productive as an agrarian society. Don't see any slaves, though he said some were originally brought over, where are they? Looks like the south just went further south, to just die some more. Not very impressive. Looks like your typical southern town, abandoned.
The fastest growing states in the USA are the south, people are fleeing New York, California and several other northern states to go to places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee, the Carolina’s. Black Americans are moving in massive numbers to the Atlanta metro. Your point about southern towns being abandoned is pretty hilarious. You are here to make irrelevant points and that’s fine feel free. Honoring peoples history is not an endorsement of their beliefs. If I visit Roman monuments that does not mean I support gladiatorial combat and by leaving up the coliseum and being against ripping it down also does not mean I endorse it.
@@JustLifeTravelswhere do you live ?
@@TonyStark-xr2omwhy do these red third world states in the us, take money from us hard-working Democrats in the blue States?
Cool; Pres. Jimmy Carter and his wife Rosalynn visited Americana ;
That’s cool, makes sense with him being southern himself. I’m also from the south so for me it was cool to see a piece of a specific American culture in such a foreign place.
When?
@@alexkx8599 1972
In the early 1970's. Rosalyn Carter has an ancestor buried in the Confederate cemetery between Americana and Santa Barbara d'Oeste.
Hardly anyone knows about this chapter in America,, it is history, I'm glad the guys recognized the "battle flag of northern Virginia", it was barely flown in the civil war,, Hollywood made the flag popular and was in every civil war movie and the Dukes of Hazzard adapted the paint scheme of the gen Lee was in fact Dodge put out in 1969 not the t.v. show. Great video, I really enjoyed it!!👍👍
Glad you enjoyed, we both enjoy history a lot and love getting to learn it where it actually happened.
I couldn’t agree with you both more. If it wasn’t obvious by my thumbnail, I love history. It makes me so happy when. I see young ppl that also love history because I don’t see it enough. And you’re right, there isn’t a culture that has a pure clean history. It’s important to preserve history as it is, not what we wish it were.
Exactly!
Fun fact: the state of Bahia played a small part in the American civil war, when the CSS Florida was attacked and captured by the USS Wachusset, while in the port of Salvador for repairs and refueling in 1864. There were popular protests against the union, including a attack on the American consulate.
This act violated Brazil's sovereignty and international rules of neutrality, generating a serious diplomatic crisis between Brazil and the United States.
Unfortunately, the Confederates did not create colonies in the state of Bahia, their territory geographically resembles the states of Texas and Oklahoma.
That’s actually really cool, I wish we could have visited Bahia. Thanks for sharing that I had never heard about that incident before.
I love quirky bits of history like this, always fascinating
Yeah really cool seeing such a seemingly random piece of America in Brazil.
@@JustLifeTravels yeah mate, totally. I'm Australian and these little 'weird" parts of human history will never get boring.
Down that dusty trail at 1:03---looks like the backroads of Alabama! That must have reminded the settlers of home!
Very cool video, guys.
Thank you very much!
It would’ve been cool to hear from more locals, see how they look different from Portuguese-descended Brazilians, or hear the differences in dialect being that their ancestors came from the American South.
Fully agree I wish we could have found some, but the original population who founded it has been outnumbered by immigrants mainly from Italy aswell as having mixed with other Brazilians and lost their identity or moved to other areas of Brazil.
@@JustLifeTravels That, in and of itself, it’s an interesting side point. In either case, great work, guys.
Thanks we appreciate the support!
There is a vídeo of a local man speaking English with old accent! Great vídeo. I Will try tô find it
Vídeo is "Descendente de confederados que fugiram para o Brasil AINDA..." great vídeo with a man speaking old accent english from nineteenth century
I truly hope that I misread the signals and that you guys are fair minded and good guys. You’re so young and you have presents and can make a difference. I’m rooting for you.
Appreciate the rooting for us
I don’t think you misread.
I appreciate that they consider themselves all as Brazilian citizens…in the states , even though I’m Swedish, I consider myself an American or a citizen of the United States…never a Swedish American
It’s certainly vital to assimilate to the country you live in, so it is a great success they have become fully Brazilian.
Sou católico e acredito que o Brasil é um país católico
Yes, Brazil is still majority Catholic
Sim, mas daqui a poucas décadas será majoritariamente evangélico.
@@Andre.felipe84Tomara que não. Prefiro um Brasil católico ou ateu do que evangélico.
If the confederate flag doesn’t have the same meaning over in Brazil, let them be.
I agree, the people there are mixed race and still see it as their heritage. Trying to impose American values on the idea is crazy
Leave it alone in the states too.
"Leftists" and "leave peacefull people alone" never works in the same sentence. It was all fine with black people happy in the parties untill these "woke" folks start the drama. Noisy, useless minority trying to import 1st world nonsensical problems to a country with so many real ones.
It’s definitely the same meaning. I think they’re being dis
ingenuous. The subject matter is intriguing and I’m glad he did share it.
@@RhondaRachel2003 Which meaning?
These americans just celebrate their heritage. They wanted to live independently in the South, then they tried to do the same in Brazil. As a brazilian and their neighbors I see no problem with either, much on the contrary, its inspiring to see the desire for not bowing down to others.
Some values were once wrong, but I'm sure not a single one of them supports slavery nowadays, and the core value which is independence remains. It's much more praiseworthy than Brazil's founding value which was just to exploit the land and its people, which is something that remains ever since the military coup ended the Empire.
I think the best catholic Brazilian cathedral is in São Paulo called Catedral da Sé, Petrópolis also has a nice Gothic cathedral where the remains of emperor Dom Pedro II lays.
Oh I actually saw it when I was in São Paulo, it was closed so I couldn’t go inside unfortunately
(Forgive me for this diversion, but the announcer in the black T-shirt is GORGEOUS!
And he's built like an NFL Linebacker!)
Okay, I'm back. This has been an excellent presentation of invaluable American history
that I have NEVER heard of.
Thanks again
Haha thank you for the great compliment and I am glad you enjoyed the video!
The rectangular version of the battle flag first appeared in January 1864 and was commissioned by Gen. Joseph Johnston. It was the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee.
Yeah, the flag is not even a purely political one but military and connotations of slavery added to it are kinda crazy.
Great video Gentleman
Glad you enjoyed it!
Orthodox churches have icons, not idols.
Exodus 20:4
"You shall not make any graven images, or any likeness of anything in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth"
@@JustLifeTravelswhere in the church fathers is your justification or grounding for this exigesis
@@JustLifeTravels Do you accept everything in the book of exodus or you get to pick and choose? Don't be ignorant....understand the context and it doesn't mean what you think it means. Has nothing to do with icons or images on walls in Churches. No one is worshiping those.
Podem falar o que quiserem por aí mas, mas eu gosto muito dos Americanos, dos EUA, SEMPRE estiveram a disposição de. Ajudar o Brasil e nós Brasileiros, SOMOS IRMÃOS INSEPARÁVEIS DAS AMÉRICAS 😊
Fully agree! I hope Brazil has a bright future ahead
Today, most of the ppl in Americana and Santa Barbara d'Oeste are of Italian descent, since they became the majority in this region at the turn of the 19th century.
Also, First Lady, Rosalynn Carter, had great uncles that settled in said region around 1866.
Yeah I read that in the demographics about the town, I was surprised by the amount of Italians in São Paulo as a whole.
@@JustLifeTravels SP also has one of the largest Japanese descended populations in the world as well as a large Korean population and large numbers of Middle Eastern descent.
My ancestry is Austrian. Both my brothers were born in Innsbruck. Dad was born in Graz. I was born here in Chicago. We have lived here since the early 1970s. With all of that said I would ask you: is that the Brazilian English accent?
No we are just from the USA, we hoped to find locals who were from the original Americana settlers but unfortunately we didn’t get any.
I watched a video these days of two other american youtubers about the same topic and they managed to interview briefly one or two people related to confederate acestry, will try to find out in my history list and post it here.
@@AlexandreLimberger
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This is something that should be in our American history books in school. This is as important as any other migration to or fro.
I myself just recently learned of this through a language channel,that interviewed a few who still spoke English with a US southern accent without ever visiting the US.
Yeah it’s a really interesting segment of American/Brazilian history
This video is sensational what a wonder never knew there was this place in são paulo
Very glad to here that you enjoyed it. Brazil is definitely full of surprises. Many more videos coming so hopefully you enjoy.
Southerners know. I take it you aren't Southern? It's amazing how the war in the US is taught differently in the non Southern states. Did you know the monuments and the bases that were named after confederates majority were gifted by the US government during reconstruction as a way to recognize them as American veterans, many whose families secured the country from the English crown
Very, very, very interesting! I knew about the migration of Confederates to Brazil, but I knew no details about it - AT ALL! Brazil is a true "metling pot" where past identities have been replaced by national identity. The U.S. has done just the reverse with nationalistic and racial identity becoming the dominate identifier. We are a nation of "tribes" today more than ever before and will be even more so in the future. I subscribed.
Welcome! I hope you will find future videos as interesting!
Because the people who run the show here don't want us talking about them so they use media to stoke division. Just my opinion 🤷
Brazilian national identity is a unifying concept, but many people in the South and Southeast of Brazil, regions where there has been a lot of immigration, still identify themselves by their ethnicity, as in the USA, such as Italian-Brazilians, Japanese-Brazilians and German-Brazilians.
I’m curious to know how many families fled from the Natchez, Mississippi area before,during or after the civil war and what were their names?
I couldn’t say for sure, but I believe there were more families than even on that monument. I believe they are just the initial founders
@@JustLifeTravels
There more millionaires per capita in the World 🌎 in Natchez, Mississippi before the civil war was stated. So I am led to believe that a lot of these citizens must have fled there as well. I would love to find out and know more about this.😊
As a 54 y/o woman, it's refreshing to know there are still young men like you who can appreciate our history. Too many young people are just just so left in their ideology. I thought you all were extinct! 🙂
Appreciate it, it’s a fascinating place that few people know of or think about.
@@JustLifeTravelsnever heard of it until I came across y'all's video. Thank you, I appreciate the history lesson
Glad we could introduce it to you!
Correction to what u said... the statues are not idols...they are representations (and reminders of the religious/historical person depicted) but RC are not praying to the actual statues.... I can see how that can be confusing to understand.
Ah okay thanks!
Awesome video my family. The Tracy’s were in the confederacy there used to be a bronze bust of Edward D Tracy at Arlington. That is my great grandfather times five that’s on my mom side of the family on my dad side of the family. We were in the union army so as they say family fighting family love your guys’s videos. Keep up the great work.🇺🇸❤️✝️ oh, I’m also Irish and southern Baptist raised must be a thing👍
Great to hear, I had family on both sides too. Certainly a complicated time for many families especially in the border areas. Glad to hear your family has a place of honor in Arlington because both sides soldiers fought for what they thought was right.
@ thanks for the reply. Safe travels. You have a big fan in Coach Sperling here in Lodi California home of the Lodi 🏈 Flames ❤️🇺🇸✝️ God bless you guys and all that you do.
The city of Santa Barbara d'Oeste has some residential streets named for some prominent Confederate families who settled in that part of Sao Paulo State.
I wish I knew that, it for sure would have been in the video! Thanks for sharing
the Arizona Territory was part of the Confederacy
Yeah there was a lot of support and a couple battles out there.
Fly your confederate flags proudly so you can be seen.
🤘🤘🤘💥💥
That church should be restored. Beautiful building
Agreed, hopefully the Brazilian government gives it some funding for repairs as it is a historic and cultural landmark.
It’s interesting that the gentleman said that the Confederates came down to Brazil to be simple farmers. When they were in the United States, they were not simple farmers. They were some of the richest people in the United States before the war. Why would they leave the United States to be sample farmers? I think he’s being misleading. I think they created their way of life down there, which was based on a foundation of slavery
Many slave owners were rich but not all or even most, yes they moved to Brazil to continue slavery because Brazil was the main destination for slaves in the Americas and continued the practice after it was ended in the USA.
Should not change history or flags anywhere. I'm a lifetime member of the scv.
Fully agree
Well you idiots don’t even use the right flag…. That’s not the stars and bars that’s the battle flag! Which was made after due to the confusion in having similar flags on opposing sides
@@JustLifeTravelsAdolf’s Germany lasted longer than the Confederacy. Just because some people in our past were misguided and tried to keep it alive doesn’t make it ok. But at the end of the day, it’s your right to say and display what you wish as a private citizen, but as private citizen, I’ll express as many others will that we believe it’s distasteful.
Ikr. I feel the same towards the fag flag. Distasteful and disgusting.
@@barnibussnaples6561No slaver flew under the Confederate flag. The same cannot be said of the Stars and Stripes.
Evangelical Christians in Brazil are Neopentecostal or Pentecostal. Many of Evangelical Christians here are for the Assembly Of God.
Great video guys🤙
Thanks a lot glad you enjoyed, we had a blast getting to visit and it was certainly one of the high points of the trip
11:20 Looks like a banyan tree like the one in my yard in Florida.
Nice, stay warm in this cold weather we are getting down here in Florida now
Yes. People should preserve history no matter how horrible certain points of history were.
Also, I don’t think that confederate flag should’ve been taken down. It’s a part of history and the origin of that place.
I definitely agree, hope you enjoyed the video!
Losers 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Confederacy fought for limited goverment (states rights) and limited taxation. Yankees fought for Rail road robber Barrons and tax rebellion.
Yankees need to apologize to Dixieland.
Nothing wrong with the confederates ! The north was the one in the wrong
Look now all the zoo beasts are let loose ?? A real circus American has become
@@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese but what about slavery?
Being a cathedral has nothing to do with the size or architecture of a church. If it contains the diocesan chair of a bishop, it's a cathedral.
Makes sense
Are rhere any General Lee replicas there? That would be cool.
Didn’t see any but wouldn’t be surprised if during the festival they have them for sale
The greatest rock singer in Brazil rita lee descendant from a Confederate family and her surname was a tribute to General Lee. She were very famous and considered an icon in brazil. Unfortunately she passed away recently.
@@giuseppemoretti2311 Yeah, Rita Lee Jones was a direct descendant of William Hutchinson Norris, Alabama State Senator and Confederate Colonel who founded the municipality of Santa Bárbara in Brazil. She was one of the founders of the mythological psychedelic rock band of the 1960s: Os Mutantes.
Back in 2003 I was working as an Engineer in Amazon. In the town of Santarém on the Amazon I was attending a festival that had American style square dancing. I was surprised to find out that they were descendents of the Confederates that settled along the Amazon and started plantations after the Civil War. Many still had last names Jones, Johnson, Washington etc. The square dance caller still used the English words but was hard to make out with the accent changed over time. The plantations at the time were still operated with slaves from Africa. Slavery in Brazil continued over 20 years after slavery end in the US. Over 2 million slaves were imported into the US during slavery but during that same period Brazil imported 3 million. Local indigenous tribes never worked out and would escape to the jungles. A sad note to History.
That’s great, would be very cool to get to see those groups out there in the Amazon too. I didn’t know Americans had settled out there as well.
About relics from "heritage", this is precisely why we have museums.
You shouldn’t bottle up culture and heritage into museums or else you have a soulless and worthless society. History should be seen and understood not put in a place to be viewed as separate from the people whose family made it.
I liked so much of this vídeo, I was born and still living in Americana.
I am so proud of this story, the Americans brought the cotton and the industrie, it was very important to the City development, unfortunately the English has not been spoken anymore here, I also like to tell this story to my friends.
Keep going guys, you will always welcome in Americana.
brs amam gringos
Thanks a lot of the support!
Thanks a lot for the support
It is fascinating to know our roots and preserve this knowledge for other generations, to understand mistakes and leave them in the past. Regarding flags, I believe some of them should never be raised again. Even though they have many meanings, what made them widely known is what will be remembered first.
Alright
Hey this tripped me out!! I wonder if any Poinsett’s were down there?
Not sure, but it was cool to get to see it in person and learn a bit reading about it.
Bro my Great grandpa was a slave owner and speaks about his friends moving her after the war in the letters he wrote to my great grandmother. He never served. But he spoke about all the local slave owners selling land and moving to brazil
That’s some interesting history to have!
@@JustLifeTravels do they speak English thereb
Deam this was uploaded only a month later then mine but it must have been filmed a the year before if you guys were there around Christmas.
The immigration museum was neat, not that big but it was nice to give the video a little bit more different places instead of just the cemetery.
Also who let you guys into the cemetery if you couldn't find any confederate dependents?
We just arrived when the grounds keeper was there by luck, he let us in. Yeah I wish we had gotten in to the museum. We released this way way after we initially filmed it, you are right it was around December.
@@JustLifeTravels Ahh makes sense though I'm pretty sure that the grounds keeper though he didn't speak English must've been a decedent as well. Nice to hear a response from you guys. and I know what it's like to have old footage laying around I've got a whole mountain of it and editing takes so much work, doesn't help how much of a perfectionist I am but I belief that the quality is worth the time investment
I played with my band in a event in this place.
That’s great what type of music do you do?
I would have never thought a place like this would exist in Brazil, very interesting. Also, the church was very beautiful😄
Yes I was surprised when I first heard about it also. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Sou brasileira. Toda história, seja seu lado bonito ou feio, deve ser lembrada e preservada, mesmo que seja para o conhecimento pela geração atual e futura para que saibam que certas coisas não devem ser repetidas. Se no Brasil houve também a escravidão e os brasileiros preservam essa história através de museus, monumentos, livros e até mesmo ensinando nas escolas, não vejo nada de errado nos descendentes dos confederados fazerem o mesmo. A história ocorreu, não tem como negá-la. Negá-la seria tentar esconder a sujeira embaixo do tapete. Uma coisa é preservar e contar a história como ocorreu exatamente e discutir sobre ela e outra coisa é querer que ela seja revivida, que ela ocorra novamente (e isso sim é que não deve ocorrer. O passado deve ser contado, mas deve continuar no passado).
O fim da escravidão no Brasil ocorreu oficialmente em 13 de maio de 1888, portanto, todos os que moravam no Brasil tiveram que aceitar esse fato e se adaptar a essa nova situação, inclusive os confederados que vieram para o Brasil.
Eu li alguns artigos e assisti vídeos sobre esse festival confederado que ocorre todos os anos no mês de abril. Pelo que eu percebi, o festival não é para reviver e/ou vangloriar a escravidão, mas sim para preservar outros costumes e a cultura sulista da mesma época, afinal, apesar da escravidão, os confederados sulistas também tinham sua própria cultura: suas vestimentas, seu estilo musical, sua culinária, etc (e acredito que são esses outros aspectos que o festival se propõe a mostrar, não havendo mais nada de racismo nesse festival, afinal, atualmente o racismo é crime no Brasil).
Assistam os vídeos com os títulos abaixo:
"FESTA CONFEDERADA NO BRASIL Viagem na Historia", do canal Viagem na Historia
"Festa Descendentes confederados norteamericanos - São Paulo - Brasil", do canal Fabyn
Perdeu, mané!
Sorry I don’t speak Portuguese
Who is Peter?
He’s an irish friend of ours. He is in all the Ireland videos and many others
The American flag (stars and stripes) was the flag of the anti-bellum south for eighty years before slavery ended.
100% accurate
Waaay down south of Dixie
Very far south of Dixie
Thanks guys
No problem, thank you!
Howdy. There is a Ghanian word, Sankofa, the literal translation of the word is “it is not taboo to fetch what is at risk of being left behind.” Meaning it is important to know your history so you are not destined to repeat it. So yes, it is true that you should not forget your history, history should also not be used as a weapon of hate. Consider this, no one cared about the battle flag until the KKK started using it. In history, every time the battle flag has come to the forefront of conversations it has been because it was used as a tool/symbol of hate. Starting with "The Birth of a Nation; 1915, Bloody Summer; 1919, Tulsa massacre, 1921 and the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. We should remember the horrific parts of the past as a teacher not honor it. In my opinion, their flag is a place of honor. So yes it was valid to remove the image of the battle flag, from their flag. Side note a cool thing about some of those Confederado descendants is they still carry a slight southern accent and cook “southern” style food like fried chicken and corn bread.
Yeah it is very unfortunate that the kkk picked the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia to be one of their symbols, but they also picked the cross as a symbol and I do not think jt should be removed as a hate symbol either.
What was that about "peter files"? Was that a shout out to what it looks like?
Yeah I have a friend named Peter, and it’s a reference to when he was in videos before.
I believe that we should be students of history, remembering the past and acknowledging it for what it was through the lens of truth and justice...THAT is the only way to avoid repeating history. Some look at historical and cultural gaffes of yesteryear and develop a sense of nostalgia. As a history buff myself (and descendant of a condeferate soldier), I believe that most historical relics like the old Dixie flag have their place in safe keeping in a very nice museum. Only those which stand the test of time as products of truth and justice derserve their place in the public sphere! Public expression of culture and history ought to represent the best of who we are! I' l
If people start trying to be the arbiters of what is good enough for the public sphere like you suggest history is bound to be perverted and the perceptions reinforced despite the reality of good or bad which is all based on the current perception of an action which will naturally change with time.
The majority of the negative connotation that comes with the confederate battle flag of the army of northern Virginia came about in the 1960s 100 years after it last flew over the battlefield. When people fly the 13 star American flag it is also the flag of a nation that enshrined slavery into itself. Brazils has a much longer and larger history of slavery that is also much darker but no one suggests removing Brazilian flags from the public sphere.
If you go to some of our Nigeria videos there are statues to honor the African chiefs who would go out and capture slaves to trade and they are thought of as warriors and strong men who fought for their own tribe, their statues should also not be torn down and their names forgotten, I don’t even think it’s wrong to judge it as morally wrong for the locals perception of them being positive.
Thanks Dudes... I bet the ladies were happy to see yall....
Haha definitely
Great video, as a southerner I don't think they should have changed the city of Americana flag.
Yeah it’s a shame
"Sancto Antonio Hujus Civitatis Patrono". I think it means "Saint Anthony is the patron of this city". Known as Saint Anthony of Padua, Italy, he was born in Lisbon, Portugal. The church was built by italian immigrants though.
Although a believer, I'm not religious, but I love visiting cathedrals and other beautiful, intricate buildings. I visited Almudena in Madrid, some in Toledo I forgot, Sagrada Familia in Barcelona (outside only, too much trouble to get in), Notre Dame de la Garde in Marseille (missed La Major though), San Lorenzo in Genova, Mosta Dome in Malta, and Palma Cathedral in Mallorca...but I NEVER, ever visited this beautiful cathedral that is literally 8min drive from me. Shameful, lol
This was the first time I saw it from inside and I'll definitely gonna visit it now, so thank you for reminding me how much of a fool I am.
Glad we could get you to swing by! It’s like that for me too, I’ll love next to some tourist attraction and tell myself I can go anytime and then end up never going. We always try to visit cathedrals whenever we get the chance, you’ll see a lot of them in our videos especially in Catholic or other Christian countries. In the Mexico videos we have made there are tons
That church is beautiful.
Fully agree!
We are scattered around here.
It’s great people are still there and in touch with their history
What you see in Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican churches are not idols.
Exodus 20:4-5: "You must not make any idols. Don't make any statues or pictures of anything up in the sky or of anything on the earth or of anything down in the water. Don't worship or serve idols of any kind, because I, the LORD, am your God"
You know them boys had some fun! Imagine going down to Brazil after a war and retiring to beautiful women and a piece of land... Nothing better 😂😅
Haha I’m sure they did
If they looked like these guys it was probably a lot of rapping going on
Rapping? Like R&B and Hip Hop? @@ReyMysterioReyTheMiz
@@ReyMysterioReyTheMiz You think we look like rappers? We don't like rap music that much actually.
Very cool
Yeah it was certainly a passion project, and a great day out.
Only rich people owned slaves here, very few, most of all the slaves went to South America.
That’s very true, we actually made a video in Nigeria and the place they kept slaves there was actually named after Brazil because so many were sent there specifically.
I actually live in Americana and althought is important to preserve history and heritage, and despite people say they don't share the same thoughts of their ancestors, it is a little controversy cause for instance there is this "confederates party" in Santa Barbara D'oeste a town next Americana, where people are often seen carrying dog whistles wich can be interpretated as a white supremacy symbol. This happens due to the stigma upon confederates and so people might see those spaces as a safe place to bring up their ideals to the surface. Also, i heard the relate of a black friend of mines who once popped up at this party without knowledge of confederates history, and she felt mistreated, like people were uncomfortable with her and her family presence.
That’s good that you can hopefully go visit the festival yourself and enjoy it since you live there.
Where is Scarlet O'Hara 😮 Brazil ?
lol is that real?
'That's the night that the lights went out in Georgia...'😂 love Reba
Vicki Lawrence from the Carol Burnett did that song first and better
Great song!
I didn’t know it wasn’t an original I’ll have to look up that version.
Atores americanos no Brasil: Tamara tacmam, John Herbert, Rita Lee ( rainha do rock) , Terry winter( our love dream), linda música.
I’m glad there was cultural contributions
TerryWinter era neto de inglês 🤔🤔🤔
@marthapaes5105 eu sei. Foi isso que quis dizer
Well said. Better to remind bad things than forget it and repeat it all over again
Exactly
So they migrated to Brazil in 1866, after the Civil War, and some brought slaves with them? How did they do that after the slaves were freed? Did the slaves come willingly?
It’s possible that they did, most slaves would have been purchased in Brazil but there are several records that indicate that many older former slaves wished they didn’t have to be free. That is very much a minority of the cases but there were some slaves that did prefer it for one reason or another.
pq ainda havia escravidão no brasil que foi oficialmente abolida em 1888
No estado de são Paulo fundaram a cidade de nome americana. No Estado de Goiás há muitos descendentes de americanos, inclusive alguns artistas de cinema americano tinham terras e passavam as férias no Brasil.
Interesting!
Always difficult dealing with race but i can appreciate the delivery
Thanks a lot, hope you got to learn something or we sparked an interest in researching the place more.
Todos são brasileiros agora 😊
Yup they have all fully integrated, Brazil is a massive melting pot of cultures and people.