I mean, Pat's not wrong. Before meeting Eric, Ariel was interested in the land above, but not to the point of doing something stupid. But after rescuing him, she's like "Sure, I'll make a shady deal with this known criminal. What could possibly go wrong?"
People always forget that Ariel was more than fine with just splashing around in the water to get his attention. She only became human only after her dad came into her room and destroy all her stuff in an attempt to keep her in line.
@@otakon17 In what is essentially the worst case of ABUSIVE Parenting we've seen from an otherwise loving father. (Seriously that scene was incredibly uncomfortable to watch, horrifying even, and it is confirmed Trident was in the wrong for that)
I watched Little Mermaid for the first time ever last year, and I can still find what I said, lemme paraphrase it "I thought the film was going to say that Ariel, without her personhood/voice, is unable to properly seduce Eric let alone gain freedom. But then you throw in the fact that Eric was going to marry Ariel before Ursula/Vanessa showed up, and you start to realize... Ariel's own objectification of herself, and submission to her short-sighted desires WORKS. And being hypnotized complicates thing, but Eric drops Ariel like a bag of bricks the moment 'the girl with the voice shows up' in the form of Vanessa, despite the bond they built. So no one ever escapes objectification. Ariel and Ursula both use their bodies to get what she wants, Ursula covets what she doesn't have and Ariel does, and Eric is a shallow man who doesn't learn anything." I still love the film, but the messages don't seem very positive to me.
@@ksdixon86 Do you have all of them? I was so bummed when I went looking for them some time ago and realized that the uploader must've deleted their channel.
They were right when they first singled out Aurora as the worst. Most every other Disney Princess at least has at least a shred of *character*. They learn a lesson, go on an adventure, are usually proactive to some degree even if it's just demonstrating some sense of self-preservation, etc. Even Snow White, the OG Disney Princess had at least a little bit of personality and was able to interact with most of the characters in the story. Aurora though is just a sheltered girl and is absolutely second or third fiddle in Sleeping Beauty compared to Maleficent and the Fairy Godmothers. No lessons learned or real agency ever shown. Still fucking love Sleeping Beauty though. Three old ladies as the protagonists was at least a fun mix up of the formula.
Snow White is a major driving force in her own film. Her kindness and empathy towards others is what ultimately made the Hunter to falter, the Dwarfs to get over their initial prejudice and protect her and, paradoxically, caused the Queen to hate her (I always interpreted being the "fairest of them all" was more of a personality trait than based on appearance alone). I sadly can't say the same about Aurora. On another note, I think Tiana's pretty much the best Disney princess up until she turns into a frog.
I cannot stress this enough, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REUPLOADING THIS! I was actually subscribed to Johosafats Studios for the longest time (back when they he still did reviews of Naruto manga chapters in fact) and I always rewatched his animation of the SBFP (with so many favourites like this one, “The Strongest Stand in JoJo”, “Pat ordering drones from a certain horse site”, “discussing Netflix’s Luke Cage”, “Sonic Dreams Collection”, “Matt summarising Naruto’s Ending” and so on). One day, I tried to search for his videos and I couldn’t find them, only to realise his channel got deleted (I think it might have been his last videos of doing a Let’s Play that made RUclips act like be a massive jerk). Donald put in so much work and devotion into his videos and RUclips just took it all away. He has a Tumblr and I even made an account just to try to personal message him to ask what happened to his channel but he never responded. At that time, it honestly made me so sad that all of his videos were just gone forever until I saw this in my feed. Seriously, man, thank you so much for this.
And now disney is dead set on making disney princesses full of energy and personality with active protagonist, ironically making them all feel the same and making them all forgettable.
The best disney princess has to be Merida in Brave. She goes, "fuck you guys I don't want to get a husband, these options suck I'm going my own way" and then fucks up and curses her mother into a bear which she immediately goes to try to fix, discover her villain, escapes him because she knows she can't fight him and her mother in an act of true love saves her. The best disney princess and movie second only to Mulan
Yeah... At least Woolie is still following the old format of "2 people LPs" and Reggie synergizes with Woolie really well! It is not the same, but it is still good.
Have to disagree on Ariel or Aurora being the worst. Ariel herself already had a strong desire to see the surface, and only made the decision to turn human after her father destroyed her collection of objects from the surface. Ariel might not have developed much, but I see Little Mermaid as a cautionary tale for parents that shunning your child's interests will have them turn to people who don't have their best interests at heart. Aurora herself I find hard to describe but I saw quite a few Disney films recently and Pocahontas is easily worse than either of them. She's the one Disney Princess I've seen seen so far that feels like she completely lives up to the trope of "Woman whose only character trait is fawning over a man".
Ariel's problem as a character is that she always wants something and someone else is doing it for her, which I don't know is coincidence or intentional since her character is just fighting authority figure and misplacing her guiding figures only to get what she wants
The real hero here for the re-up load, the worst part for me is my cousin s and I had literally this exact conversation when we were younger my grandfather walked in on us after I ranted on the little mermaid lol memories
Bro Tiana is the QUEEN and is the top tier disney princess. Imagine with me, we are in the deep south of 1930's-1950's New Orleans. Almost everybody down there during this time are racist to black people. And here we got TIANA! This chick works 3 jobs, doesn't a wink of sleep and hopes to make her dear old daddy who served in the military proud after he's already passed away years ago. She saves money for several years, only to be out bid and 2 white men telling her to give up on her dreams and that she shouldn't run a restaurant because she is black. I will say this, the whole turning into a frog and going onto finding Mama Odie was a bit ehhhhh. But knowing the sacfice that Tiana she has to go through and seeing her and Prince Naveen get along while also being complete opposites was incredible. Both Mulan and her are one of the best Disney princesses I've ever seen. P.S this was all written by a white guy...
I found another archived best friends video I'd like you to reupload please because I dont know how to get them from wayback machine. Whats a good email to send you a link because youtube doesnt like it when I link in comments
@@Saiyef96 I've heard that YT sometimes does that. Do they have a legit reason for such actions or is it some nafariously bad ju ju they do without notice?
@@Akaritomi There was honestly no justification for it. Donald just drew and animated all his own stuff either with his own voice saying his thoughts about manga chapters or movies or over audio from the Super Best Friends and the Game Grumps (who I believed wouldn’t have minded it being used in fanmade videos and even liked, Pat and Liam even mention watching one of his videos in Part 7 of their Let’s Play of Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain). I think RUclips deleted his channel because of either his last videos which were his Let’s Play of the PS2 game War of the Monsters or maybe a video titled a certain way called horse____ ___ ___.
I dunno who Meghan Markle is but I remember Tiana's name from that movie quite some and how characteristics. Aurora tho is one of the most boring princesses about it tho, so I can understand that. Even tho I like her name quite some.
Except Tiana actually TRIES to earn her own money, living, AND happily ever after with her restaurant. She doesn’t let ANYONE put her down, she never goes to the public to complain about racism (even when there actually is). She takes her losses as a reflection of herself and aims to be better. Megan? All I see is mooching off Harry and crying “racism!” when she gets criticism. Spineless, unlike Tiana 💕
Floor pies the prequel
I mean, Pat's not wrong. Before meeting Eric, Ariel was interested in the land above, but not to the point of doing something stupid. But after rescuing him, she's like "Sure, I'll make a shady deal with this known criminal. What could possibly go wrong?"
People always forget that Ariel was more than fine with just splashing around in the water to get his attention. She only became human only after her dad came into her room and destroy all her stuff in an attempt to keep her in line.
Her dad literally blew up her most prized possessions.
@@otakon17 In what is essentially the worst case of ABUSIVE Parenting we've seen from an otherwise loving father. (Seriously that scene was incredibly uncomfortable to watch, horrifying even, and it is confirmed Trident was in the wrong for that)
I watched Little Mermaid for the first time ever last year, and I can still find what I said, lemme paraphrase it
"I thought the film was going to say that Ariel, without her personhood/voice, is unable to properly seduce Eric let alone gain freedom. But then you throw in the fact that Eric was going to marry Ariel before Ursula/Vanessa showed up, and you start to realize... Ariel's own objectification of herself, and submission to her short-sighted desires WORKS. And being hypnotized complicates thing, but Eric drops Ariel like a bag of bricks the moment 'the girl with the voice shows up' in the form of Vanessa, despite the bond they built. So no one ever escapes objectification. Ariel and Ursula both use their bodies to get what she wants, Ursula covets what she doesn't have and Ariel does, and Eric is a shallow man who doesn't learn anything."
I still love the film, but the messages don't seem very positive to me.
0:22 From now on, I'm calling Princess & the Frog "The Black Girl & the Frog"
A real hero for reuploading this
I love these animations, id watch loads of podcast bits animated in this style :)
@@ksdixon86 wheres the pants shitting stand one
@@ksdixon86 Do you have all of them? I was so bummed when I went looking for them some time ago and realized that the uploader must've deleted their channel.
@@ksdixon86 I am also super curious to know if the rest are uploaded by you. I miss watching these
No, sorry, I only managed to get this a a few other SBFP vids from web archive.
They were right when they first singled out Aurora as the worst.
Most every other Disney Princess at least has at least a shred of *character*. They learn a lesson, go on an adventure, are usually proactive to some degree even if it's just demonstrating some sense of self-preservation, etc. Even Snow White, the OG Disney Princess had at least a little bit of personality and was able to interact with most of the characters in the story.
Aurora though is just a sheltered girl and is absolutely second or third fiddle in Sleeping Beauty compared to Maleficent and the Fairy Godmothers. No lessons learned or real agency ever shown.
Still fucking love Sleeping Beauty though. Three old ladies as the protagonists was at least a fun mix up of the formula.
Snow White is a major driving force in her own film. Her kindness and empathy towards others is what ultimately made the Hunter to falter, the Dwarfs to get over their initial prejudice and protect her and, paradoxically, caused the Queen to hate her (I always interpreted being the "fairest of them all" was more of a personality trait than based on appearance alone).
I sadly can't say the same about Aurora.
On another note, I think Tiana's pretty much the best Disney princess up until she turns into a frog.
The idea of pats parents defending Disney princesses is...bizarre
There's a saying in comedy: "perform like your parents are dead"
I don't understand the thought process behind that saying? Wouldn't that make the comedian sad?
@@ksdixon86 It's less about imagining harm upon your loved ones and more about being uninhibited :)
Ahh, thanks :)
Wait TBFP in 2024? God now I miss those 4 guys doin stuff... Thanks for bringing back some memories
I cannot stress this enough, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REUPLOADING THIS!
I was actually subscribed to Johosafats Studios for the longest time (back when they he still did reviews of Naruto manga chapters in fact) and I always rewatched his animation of the SBFP (with so many favourites like this one, “The Strongest Stand in JoJo”, “Pat ordering drones from a certain horse site”, “discussing Netflix’s Luke Cage”, “Sonic Dreams Collection”, “Matt summarising Naruto’s Ending” and so on).
One day, I tried to search for his videos and I couldn’t find them, only to realise his channel got deleted (I think it might have been his last videos of doing a Let’s Play that made RUclips act like be a massive jerk). Donald put in so much work and devotion into his videos and RUclips just took it all away. He has a Tumblr and I even made an account just to try to personal message him to ask what happened to his channel but he never responded. At that time, it honestly made me so sad that all of his videos were just gone forever until I saw this in my feed. Seriously, man, thank you so much for this.
1:40 Oh cool, the lamp and radio from brave little toaster!!
0:38 "everyone is yelling at us here a black princess" good thing disney didn't pander harder to the angry crowd
God I miss the original podcast
CSB still has some gems. ruclips.net/video/JlNmPlMVHU4/видео.html Tony Hawk being the top comment one this is great.
its still up
And now disney is dead set on making disney princesses full of energy and personality with active protagonist, ironically making them all feel the same and making them all forgettable.
What in the Brave-Little-Toaster-references did i just see?
I have legit been looking for this shit for YEARS.
Ikr
I’ve loved these, been searching for these for so long.
These faces are really close to how the artist at Extra Credits draw them.
And now they know about Floor Pie
Where are the other SBF animated videos in this style? I know there were others.
Thanks for keeping the dream alive
The best disney princess has to be Merida in Brave. She goes, "fuck you guys I don't want to get a husband, these options suck I'm going my own way" and then fucks up and curses her mother into a bear which she immediately goes to try to fix, discover her villain, escapes him because she knows she can't fight him and her mother in an act of true love saves her. The best disney princess and movie second only to Mulan
Man, I miss SBFP…..
Yeah... At least Woolie is still following the old format of "2 people LPs" and Reggie synergizes with Woolie really well! It is not the same, but it is still good.
@agsiar Also the occasional Matt and Liam lets plays feel like classic SBFP, but Liam has been focusing more on his personal stuff irl instead lately
The Blacker and the Frog
Have to disagree on Ariel or Aurora being the worst. Ariel herself already had a strong desire to see the surface, and only made the decision to turn human after her father destroyed her collection of objects from the surface. Ariel might not have developed much, but I see Little Mermaid as a cautionary tale for parents that shunning your child's interests will have them turn to people who don't have their best interests at heart. Aurora herself I find hard to describe but I saw quite a few Disney films recently and Pocahontas is easily worse than either of them. She's the one Disney Princess I've seen seen so far that feels like she completely lives up to the trope of "Woman whose only character trait is fawning over a man".
Ariel's problem as a character is that she always wants something and someone else is doing it for her, which I don't know is coincidence or intentional since her character is just fighting authority figure and misplacing her guiding figures only to get what she wants
Nice touch with the Lamp and Radio from Brave Little Toaster
The real hero here for the re-up load, the worst part for me is my cousin s and I had literally this exact conversation when we were younger my grandfather walked in on us after I ranted on the little mermaid lol memories
It's so strange to think this man is now a father
Oh, you're shitting me
I FINALLY FOUND THE ANIMATION OMG I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONE
I thought brave was cool but pats dad hearing that is hilarious
I wish they would come back...
He's dead wrong about Tiana. She's awesome.
Bro Tiana is the QUEEN and is the top tier disney princess. Imagine with me, we are in the deep south of 1930's-1950's New Orleans. Almost everybody down there during this time are racist to black people. And here we got TIANA! This chick works 3 jobs, doesn't a wink of sleep and hopes to make her dear old daddy who served in the military proud after he's already passed away years ago. She saves money for several years, only to be out bid and 2 white men telling her to give up on her dreams and that she shouldn't run a restaurant because she is black. I will say this, the whole turning into a frog and going onto finding Mama Odie was a bit ehhhhh. But knowing the sacfice that Tiana she has to go through and seeing her and Prince Naveen get along while also being complete opposites was incredible. Both Mulan and her are one of the best Disney princesses I've ever seen.
P.S this was all written by a white guy...
We should also talk about who should really count as a disney princess, like Lilo.
Lilo isnt royalty. In fact, if theyre not from royalty, or didnt marry into it like Tiana & Mulan did, then they dont count as Disney Princesses.
Oh wow I didn't know the original person removed his channel. That sucks, he also made the deathnote one too.
I found another archived best friends video I'd like you to reupload please because I dont know how to get them from wayback machine. Whats a good email to send you a link because youtube doesnt like it when I link in comments
god bless
Wow I've been looking for these old videos. Did they get taken down?
RUclips just decided to delete the guy’s (Johosofats Studios) channel
@@Saiyef96 I've heard that YT sometimes does that. Do they have a legit reason for such actions or is it some nafariously bad ju ju they do without notice?
@@Akaritomi There was honestly no justification for it. Donald just drew and animated all his own stuff either with his own voice saying his thoughts about manga chapters or movies or over audio from the Super Best Friends and the Game Grumps (who I believed wouldn’t have minded it being used in fanmade videos and even liked, Pat and Liam even mention watching one of his videos in Part 7 of their Let’s Play of Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain). I think RUclips deleted his channel because of either his last videos which were his Let’s Play of the PS2 game War of the Monsters or maybe a video titled a certain way called horse____ ___ ___.
i feel like i missed out, i never heard a single sbfp podcast
They’re still up under the new castlesuperbeast name! If you scroll back in the episode history they’re all saved and ready for listening
They’re some of the funniest goober friend groups out there that are *totally* still friends and play games together
Same I would only watch the RUclips videos but never the podcast. I totally missed out
@@ble7330 the old podcasts are absolute gold, I’d recommend them still
You have to let go, it's the only way
What's this from? Anybody know which episode?
Elsa
Tiana, the character from Princess and the Frog, is basically Meghan Markle...
I dunno who Meghan Markle is but I remember Tiana's name from that movie quite some and how characteristics. Aurora tho is one of the most boring princesses about it tho, so I can understand that. Even tho I like her name quite some.
@@Evilriku13 Her name is Sleeping Beauty, good sir
Except Tiana actually TRIES to earn her own money, living, AND happily ever after with her restaurant. She doesn’t let ANYONE put her down, she never goes to the public to complain about racism (even when there actually is). She takes her losses as a reflection of herself and aims to be better.
Megan? All I see is mooching off Harry and crying “racism!” when she gets criticism. Spineless, unlike Tiana 💕