+Joseph Franc Although this is mostly true there are some really slow matchups in Melee. Just today, HugS vs. Duck had a match end with 10 seconds on the clock (8 minute timer of course). Assuming stocks were taken at an even pace, plenty of top level Smash 4 games would've ended before that one even if Melee was 2 stock. But in general, yes. It's just the difference in speed of the two games. I actually wouldn't go as far to say "most" two stock Smash 4 matches are slower. In the same way that not all of the matches are slow, not all of the Melee matches are this fast. Maybe at low or mid level play in Smash 4's case...
@@znub206 The Gods deserve their break. M2K played the game for 13 years, Armada did everything he could've and then some, PPMD found other avenues in life
The game play that put Hax's body through so much...I appreciate how much he had to show us before he announced having to miss smash summit :( His Fox is nuts!
@@Don-bx4gw I assume they were talking about his sleep deprivation due to tournament anxiety and insomnia which took a toll on him. He also had severe pain in his thumbs due to a calcified FCU tendon which forced him to quit for a while and unable to use the GC controller, so he started working on making the B0XX controller. This is just from my memory and quick google searches so it might not be accurate. But yeah I get what you're saying.
@@smashstuff6606 well he should he not risking his health for a stupid thing, another thing, the guy getting mashed up is smiling, while Hax does not look happy. What did he really accomplish?
@@Don-bx4gw Competitive gaming isn't for everyone and I don't blame you for failing to see the appeal. But when you *really* love a game, and you realise that you can make fame and money off of it, It's easy to see why people try to make a job out of it. I'm not sure how much money you can make in competitive Smash, but take a look at Dota 2 for example. The 2021 Dota 2 World Championship had a prize pool of $40,018,195. Needless to say you can make a lot of money off of gaming. It goes beyond just "a stupid thing" to a lot of people. Also yes, you can entirely damage your body playing video games. I know it sounds like a joke, but it's actually surprisingly damaging for the human body to just sit still for hours, and hours, and hours every single day. It can cause really bad back problems, and finger damage isn't something to laugh about either. I'm a carpenter and in all honesty my line of work is probably far healthier. Aside from all the sawdust that will inevitably lead to lung damage later in my life, as long as I'm not stupid and I don't damage my back by picking up a large piece of wood improperly I'm unlikely to suffer any work related health issues. You have to either be stupid or very unlucky to lose a finger to a circular saw. Meanwhile if you're playing video games for 12+ hours a day, every day of the week, back pain and finger strain is literally unavoidable. It's guaranteed. I have to make a mistake in order to suffer in my line of work, competitive gamers are just screwed either way What I'm saying is that we all risk our health for our work. I have to worry about not cutting my fingers off, and professional gamers have to worry about inevitable back pain.
Nintendude has a great attitude here. Imagine getting obliterated in something you put this much effort into in front of that many people and keeping a genuine smile on the entire time.
@@kingdomhearts_isbooty you dont become a top 20 player without effort. wobbling or not. if wobbling made it easy, then wobbling ICs would have won every tournament, but they didnt. there's a lot more that goes into being a top player
@@hardnewstakenharder bee n banned for over a year now none of it being about gameplay and wobble is a guarantee kill once you do it shine is not so your wrong on both points
I counted 28 attempted shines, 17 hit. The hit count for each stock was 5, 3, 3 and 6. I may be wrong on the attempt count because it was hard to hear double-shines over the commentators.
Cartilige in his wrist basically disappeared from years of playing fast Falcon and then Fox and not taking care of his hands. So at a certain point he couldn't play without pain. ruclips.net/video/VCnyuqTN1T0/видео.html
Lmao its not my tag it's just my Instagram and RUclips name but regardless I don't have to listen to strangers like you lol I don't care that there's a UK player, they can fuck off lol. I came up with my name based on the lumos spell in the Harry Potter books. You can gtfo outta here with that shit son
Hax just drove the pain of 10,000 wobbles down Nintendude's throat and made him eat it.
underrated comment
WTF! XD
He changed the comment lol
what was the original comment?
+Justin Wong I don't remember, dude is an asshole though
TA$.
+Gavin Grant TAS MONEY BABY
EASY MONAY
So this is hax at 100% power, damn nature you scary.
+Sol64 Not even that yet. Hax said he hasn't shown 100% yet
+Ew0lfo better*
this isnt even his final form
I respect the family guy reference lol
The fact that he played that way for all 4 stocks is insane
Sheesh, watching Hax pwning the poor Nintendude so hard almost makes me feel his arthritis
ahhhh I never thought about that.
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
When this was commented that sheesh was read normally
@@HHöyläS LMAO true I didn't even think about that
"I'm Hax fucking money dude"
Hax fucking nitendude
+Will Zen ey yo das gay man
*facepalm*
This man right here avenged Sad2king, Hax fucking money
Toph said it best, "hax might not know the icies match up... But does the icies matchup know hax?"
This is so satisfying.
still come back to witness this masterclass. free hax
The year is 20xx
LRAStartFox *20XX
James Kinny *20$$
20HaxHax
LRAStartFox is
Melee, a game with a four stock tradition in competition, and still faster than most two stock Smash 4 matches.
True as fuck
+Joseph Franc
i've played spacies matches that were faster than most s4 stocks
thx for sharing
+Joseph Franc It's just the nature of the games.
+Joseph Franc Although this is mostly true there are some really slow matchups in Melee. Just today, HugS vs. Duck had a match end with 10 seconds on the clock (8 minute timer of course). Assuming stocks were taken at an even pace, plenty of top level Smash 4 games would've ended before that one even if Melee was 2 stock.
But in general, yes. It's just the difference in speed of the two games. I actually wouldn't go as far to say "most" two stock Smash 4 matches are slower. In the same way that not all of the matches are slow, not all of the Melee matches are this fast. Maybe at low or mid level play in Smash 4's case...
I miss this melee so much. The crowd is amazing it gives me chills
We need this melee back. We need the melee gods to return. We need Dr PP
@@znub206 The Gods deserve their break. M2K played the game for 13 years, Armada did everything he could've and then some, PPMD found other avenues in life
every time someone plays amazing they have to go and rekt nintendude.
Because he's twice the sandbag.
Rek*
NSFW
+Alex Previty NSFL we watched a man die
+Super Michelangelo 😂😂😂😂
Alex Previty N$FL
Not Safe For Wobblers
@@skylarfox_bmbI wanna let you feel appreciated for this. Funny ass joke
The game play that put Hax's body through so much...I appreciate how much he had to show us before he announced having to miss smash summit :( His Fox is nuts!
Are you serious? His body went through so much? He’s moving his fingers around, while sitting down....
@@Don-bx4gw I assume they were talking about his sleep deprivation due to tournament anxiety and insomnia which took a toll on him. He also had severe pain in his thumbs due to a calcified FCU tendon which forced him to quit for a while and unable to use the GC controller, so he started working on making the B0XX controller.
This is just from my memory and quick google searches so it might not be accurate. But yeah I get what you're saying.
@@smashstuff6606 well he should he not risking his health for a stupid thing, another thing, the guy getting mashed up is smiling, while Hax does not look happy. What did he really accomplish?
@@Don-bx4gw more than you
@@Don-bx4gw Competitive gaming isn't for everyone and I don't blame you for failing to see the appeal. But when you *really* love a game, and you realise that you can make fame and money off of it, It's easy to see why people try to make a job out of it.
I'm not sure how much money you can make in competitive Smash, but take a look at Dota 2 for example. The 2021 Dota 2 World Championship had a prize pool of $40,018,195. Needless to say you can make a lot of money off of gaming. It goes beyond just "a stupid thing" to a lot of people. Also yes, you can entirely damage your body playing video games. I know it sounds like a joke, but it's actually surprisingly damaging for the human body to just sit still for hours, and hours, and hours every single day. It can cause really bad back problems, and finger damage isn't something to laugh about either.
I'm a carpenter and in all honesty my line of work is probably far healthier. Aside from all the sawdust that will inevitably lead to lung damage later in my life, as long as I'm not stupid and I don't damage my back by picking up a large piece of wood improperly I'm unlikely to suffer any work related health issues. You have to either be stupid or very unlucky to lose a finger to a circular saw. Meanwhile if you're playing video games for 12+ hours a day, every day of the week, back pain and finger strain is literally unavoidable. It's guaranteed. I have to make a mistake in order to suffer in my line of work, competitive gamers are just screwed either way
What I'm saying is that we all risk our health for our work. I have to worry about not cutting my fingers off, and professional gamers have to worry about inevitable back pain.
UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER DAWG
*Hax$ channels the spirit of Mang0*
"Get fucked Nintendude" he utters. The venue explodes soon after
Zhu's face at the end lmao
ARTHRITI$
This feels so good considering I just came from the video where he wobbled m2k out of, what was it, Genesis 3?
Nintendude has a great attitude here. Imagine getting obliterated in something you put this much effort into in front of that many people and keeping a genuine smile on the entire time.
Its hilarious hax has to play this well to get a kill while nintendude only needs a single grab
@@thaine26 Yeah but it's still Fox tho. No sympathy.
he's just like "Yeah. It do be like that sometimes"
where was the effort
@@kingdomhearts_isbooty you dont become a top 20 player without effort. wobbling or not. if wobbling made it easy, then wobbling ICs would have won every tournament, but they didnt. there's a lot more that goes into being a top player
his controller probably needed a cigarette after that
My first tournament in a nutshell.
Hax before his hands blew up
5 years later and this is still amazing
This kills the hands.
Leffen really tried to take this from us, man.
Watching competitive Melee looks like I put Sonic's dead body in my gamecube.
Gotta go fast.
That guy behind Hax$ is so good looking, wait a sec...
It's me.
that comment deserves an award
I'm sorry but I don't get it
+Gabriel Escobar seriously?
+Scrap Goblin are you the asian guy
+NoUnboundFreedom Asian guy? poor zhu
It's a crime that Hax is still banned.
And THIS is one clear reason why he was on reasonable grounds for banning.
@@gojurathedynamo3agreed. His Fox was too technical and based for this cucked community
When he isn't wobbling nintendude looks like a fucking 3 year old who just picked up the game for the first time. XD
It's appropriate, because a 3 year-old who picked up the game for the first time could wobble, if they just get it explained to them.
1:19 TAS Desync?
This is so satisfying I need to watch it again . . .
I love watching Nintendude get bodied
proof that when he cant get wobbles nintendude is dead weight
HokutoSmashken he didn't even have room to move
iNeveRzz Ice climbers are pretty weak without the wobble
Anarchy I've played melee before but thanks
Meant the other guy
Anarchy you don't need wobbles you can get handoffs and chaingrabs
I love how Nintendude was desperately going for grabs near the end cuz he knows he can’t do fuck all without wobbling. This was glorious to watch.
Hax is banned now, btw. Shine is a cheaper move than wobbling.
@@hardnewstakenharder bee n banned for over a year now none of it being about gameplay and wobble is a guarantee kill once you do it shine is not so your wrong on both points
@@hardnewstakenharder imaging calling shine a move cheesier than a move without a way to com out of besides death.
@@hardnewstakenharder the most dumbest ban imaginable
@@hardnewstakenharderI really hope you’re a child
i want to see hax play again
Melee Hell would be proud
This was karma for the wobbling
rest in peace Nintendude, you won't be forgotten
He most definitely will be forgotten, I hate that wobbler ass ice climber main lookin ass prick
Or forgiven.
I really want to see a top player get jv5'd. It normally happens between really good players and first timers or total scrubs.
"the year is 20XX"
screw the gods. this is the best game of fox that has ever been played
MaNg0 vs Taj
Leffen vs Chillindude829
Hungrybox vs MaNg0 @ Evo 2013
Mew2King vs Leffen @ pretty much any tournament where Fox dittos happened
@@asdfsdfsdf5114 yes those are all examples of games worse than this
@@asdfsdfsdf5114 Mang0 vs Leffen Genesis 4
2022 has come and it’s just better melee
why the fuck isnt he playing twisted fate rn
Catsyk what?
Nintendude the whole time:
*I must grab him*
HOLY S*** THAT WAS INSANE AF
hax$ baby, clips like this worth his wrist exploding lol
I love how this video has 0 dislikes (from when I'm watching it anyway)
20XX bb
Someone who's not me needs to count how many times Hax$ shined in this video.
Then count how many shines connected.
I counted 28 attempted shines, 17 hit. The hit count for each stock was 5, 3, 3 and 6. I may be wrong on the attempt count because it was hard to hear double-shines over the commentators.
@@keiyousu7454 You're a legend
@@Inhaleblackexhaleblue o7
DESTRUCTION
He shined nana, then jump canceled it to back air popo.
Thats hax fuckin $money$ dawg
Did this nigga just do the DeDeDe wall of pain with Fox? Lmao
its crazy how nature do dat
Feels weird seeing hax play with a gcc instead of a rectangle
Reported for posting footage of a murder
Cathartic
commentary actually godlike
#FREEHAX
Not one smirk from Hax either.
Based Hax putting the trash where it belongs.
Hax used an Arduino chip in his controller to make a TAS on the fly.
Nintendude definetely deserves that.
imagine if nintendude came back
I Love nintendodude expression xDDDD
Lol
Taking notes.
Deeeeeestruction!!!-D1
Wow Ice Climbers are so broken. Wobbling should be banned
+Daniel Kim This is such a lost comment.
THIS DID NOT AGE WELL
I think I broke the replay button.
this is never not intensely satisfying
Esam to Larry Lurr: "I'm gonna fuck him up"
And they all clap.
Someoneknow what happen to Hax hand that he stop playing on Gamecube controller?
Cartilige in his wrist basically disappeared from years of playing fast Falcon and then Fox and not taking care of his hands. So at a certain point he couldn't play without pain.
ruclips.net/video/VCnyuqTN1T0/видео.html
fox's bair is pretty good man.
Good observation.
That 1st and 2nd stock are scary
TAS live?! No way.
The year is 20XX....
He only hit Nintendude with 4 different moves throughout that entire game…
Never gave him a second to breath though.
@@Inhaleblackexhaleblue I wouldn't let my man's BREATHE
4 different moves is still always better than just one single grab over and over.
didn't even shoot a laser wow
Reminder that hax was always right about leffen
Cringe
@@cor9498 ratio who gives a fuck Stan
@@Morimoto94 Change your tag if your tag is Lumos, Lumos already belongs to a decent UK sheik player
Lmao its not my tag it's just my Instagram and RUclips name but regardless I don't have to listen to strangers like you lol I don't care that there's a UK player, they can fuck off lol. I came up with my name based on the lumos spell in the Harry Potter books. You can gtfo outta here with that shit son
Hax$ becomes Tas$
Hax is the best player confirmed
One of these players believes in hand pain
Hax.
Fucking.
Money.
Somewhere, DP is crying
Now that's what I call exposed.
Strange how Nintendude and most of the Icies disappeared after wobbling was banned, almost seems as if they were carried by cheese
Hax$ roleplayed divorce papers and split those two icies up 4 times lmao
Hax$ babay!
Nintendude just can't handle top level foxes. Mang0 beat him very handily at G3 too.
+Master45503 Ice climbers can't handle top level foxes.
I love when nintendude loses, he deserves it playing like tht
*wobbler fucking disintegrates in the the hands of hax$
The 1 dislike is Nintendude
holy fuck
If Hax is fire nation nintendude is the air nomads
"ban wobbling"
Well damm
This must've been painful for wobbles to watch
LOL Wobbles transcended beyond Wobbling
#Freehax
So this is what 20xx looks like...