Both the longer and shorter videos are interesting. Feel free to base the video length on whatever you like, it’s your video after all. Thanks for sharing
5:46 Yeah, I've been there, too^^ IMHO it pays off to watch the first episode of a new anime with subtitles. Sure, it breaks immersion for twenty minutes, but it increases comprehension for the rest of the season :)
Gread vid! I just came across your 3-month japanese progress update videos yesterday and binge-watched the whole series. They help me keep motivated to learn Chinese as I have been feeling exhausted keeping up the language journey these days. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing!
@@grate77 Glad you enjoy them 😅 Hopefully in a month I'll post another short update (if it seems interesting enough) but otherwise every few months feels like the sweet spot for the updates. It's just enough time to see a difference compared to the last video, but not too much that it's boring.
Thanks for sharing! I found your first immersion update video when I started in May of this year. It has been very helpful in keeping me motivated, your expriences are fairly similar to mine in terms of Anki and grammar. Although I really need to work on my reading, currently I have double the number of hours spent listening and would like to do a 50/50 split between the two. Current goal is 1600hrs of active by the start of the new year! Excited to see your progress at the end of the year!
@@thenextgengamerpc9920 Glad it helped a little with motivation! I still love watching these kinds of videos from other people too, it's interesting to see how different everyone's methods are. 1600 hours sounds like a really solid goal to aim for, especially with a 50/50 split of listening and reading, you'll be in a really good spot if so!
This was super interesting to watch and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your journey. It's also very interesting for me to compare immersion hours with you, since I've only spent around 700h+ of active learning on Japanese but due to the fact that I've been learning for many years, I have around 8-9k cards in Anki. In a way I think I'd even call it unfair since with 1400 hours you should probably have "earned" a larger vocabulary than you have in anki at least. There's also a chance that you know a ton of words that you just haven't put into Anki or repped yet, whereas for me, Anki represents my maximum vocab knowledge as I know very little vocab that I haven't put into Anki yet. I know you didn't ask for advice but if you feel like you're lacking vocab, it might be worth it to bump up your new cards per day in anki (while trying not to burn out). This isn't "recommended", but 5h of active immersion a day is not for the average bloke either. A lot of people I know who got good very fast basically speedran vocab at the start (some people doing 50+ new cards a day, insanity imo) and then toned it down to like 20 new words per day after some time. But again, if you feel like you might burn out, don't do this, and if you feel like you're getting enough outside anki vocab then you don't have to do this either. The reason people have had decent success with this method is because of the fact that immersion is more efficient aka you get more language gains from immersion the more vocab and other language knowledge you already have. But enjoying learning is the most important part so feel free to disregard all of this lmao. Oh and some japanese youtubers I like watching are: www.youtube.com/@homosapi www.youtube.com/@SUSHIRAMEN-Riku www.youtube.com/@kimagurecook www.youtube.com/@ANNnewsCH/videos I also watch some idol and cooking channels and I can drop links to those if you want as well :D
Thanks for the comment and advice! Definitely agree with you about Anki, sounds like you're in a really good spot being around 9k cards without needing too many new cards per day. I do think I should have more but it's quite hard to "catch up" without doing a large amount of cards per day. I did increase my new cards to 25 a day last month so by the 1 year mark I should be at around 6k which isn't too bad. Feel like I'm at a point where vocab is holding me back so focusing on it should help a lot over the next few months, and 25 is manageable without burning out. Also, thanks for the channels, I do enjoy cooking videos so I'll definitely check out the ones you sent. Good luck with your Japanese too, it's always nice to hear what others are doing and how similar/different their journey is.
@@hulloh Yee that sounds good The channels I sent were miscellaneous stuff. Two of them also happen to cook in their videos but they aren't really true cooking channels. The cooking channels I watch are: www.youtube.com/@ryuji825/videos www.youtube.com/@chef_Fabio www.youtube.com/@user-gi6se9kr7k/videos www.youtube.com/@KOUSEI0828
My 1.5 year journey has been super chill, very irregular and i am basing it based on my personal observation that i know in the ball park of 2500-3000 words and 300+ kanji. I assume its low tho i have gotten a bit better at it, my main goal atm is understanding music, games and be able to speak and read at an intermediate level.
I really enjoyed watching your videos, and it motivated me to finally take my Japanese learning seriously (attended classes for 2 years already but haven't done much except it so I'm still a beginner) and I would love to also be able to put my time into an excel sheet. Would it be possible for you to share the template you're using?
I would really like a smaller video in a month about the experience increasing your daily hours if you think it's worth making. I'm in a similar position to you right now doing 5hrs a day but the reverse in the fact I am making myself read after doing a lot of listening last year xD Good luck on your adventure :p
Hey, I was wondering how long it takes you to make these videos? I'm getting very close to 6 months and making an update video sounds like a lot of fun. But spending 20 Hours of my immersion time figuring out how to make a RUclips video is a lot, which in that case I might just do a talking into the camera type Video. Also how do you find the clips you use?, do you go and record them manually or is there some Anime Clips Library that I've never heard of? Your video's have been pretty inspiring and it's really nice to see someone who's 6 months ahead of me so that I more or less know what's to come. Looking forward for the Year Update!
Hey, I'd say around 20 - 30 hours seems right. I suck at editing so it takes me longer and for clips I quickly skim through anime I recently watched on 4x speed to find them, so that adds a bit of time too. If you went for a talking style video it shouldn't take too much time away from immersion so that might be a good idea! Would definitely recommend trying it out since it is quite fun, keeps you accountable and in a few months when you look back you'll be able to see the huge amount of progress you've made. I'll be sure to check it out if you do.
@@hulloh Thanks for the reply, I'll probably just start writing the script and see how I feel about editing afterwards, but I'll definitely make a video either way!
Nicely put together video! Stuff like this makes me wish I tracked my own studying more to throw out a progress update too! 3:27 relatable, maybe next year i'll be able to go through steins;gate at a reasonable pace... checked my anki and surprisingly my own 6 month mark has already passed a couple weeks ago, the time just flying by. Any plans to tackle the jlpt this year? Or any interest in it at all? Good luck in your studies fellow learner!
@@paragondissonance Thanks for the comment. Steins;Gate is actually the VN I'm most interested in too but maybe next year I'll try it out as well, my vocab isn't quite there yet atm. Grats on the 6 month mark, it does just fly by. And, also currently no plans for the JLPT. Maybe at the end of next year I'll think about it though!
Love these randomly popping on my fyp, the most inspiring thing to kick learning into gear lol Also a question, since you're sentence mining while also immersing a lot. Do you just have a large backlog of new cards in Anki from sentence mining? I imagine you're finding more new than you're going through with that many hours of immersion daily
I usually only have around 20-30 cards backlogged. I could definitely mine 40-50 cards a day but I try to only mine high frequency words or if I've seen the word in a couple of different books.
Great video! I’m really fond these sort of videos inspiring and a great way in the future for you to track your journey! You’re video is show clear and professional. It’s a really calm, easy watch and has a lot of good info for beginners and also people who have been learning. Just one thing I found quite odd, why did you say you’ve been learning Japanese for 9 months when you had a 3 month video 16 months ago? It could be quite misleading to absolute beginners to think they could start Japanese from absolute 0 beginner and progress this much! Sorry if it sounds nit picking I just don’t understand the point of misleading how much time has been spent studying? Or is there another reason why you word it like this? Maybe it’s been 9 months of continuous good studying? Sorry if you mentioned this before in a previous video
Thanks for the comment and good question. I started learning last year to get a little more familiar with the language before a trip to Japan later in the year, I did just over 4 months of "study" before leaving for Japan (and as you can imagine, it didn't help all that much). I didn't start learning again until 5 or 6 months after returning, so in total it's been just over 9 months of study now but from when I first started it's around a year and a half. I figured it would be easier to just carry on the videos instead of removing them. I personally prefer counting hours spent over months anyway but it's easier for video titles to just say months. Hope this helped!
Hey hulloh! Thanks for the reply 😸. Yeh that’s super helpful! It’s definitely a painful feeling when you try to learn so much for a trip and end up not getting as much done before as there are so many other things to prepare for. I firmly believe the benefits of visiting these countries definitely lies within the motivation they bring to learn language or immerse in culture!! When I visited Japan it also encouraged me to get more serious! I think it makes sense to count the exact amount of time for serious studying too as if you can see that ‘wow if I really focus for 9 months I can get … done’ and that also motivates you to keep those study patterns, good point! It’s also just good to have data to see when, what, how, which is the best for you! I guess when you start isn’t important, the most important thing is consistency. Also the titles defo sound captivating adding a time frame😸 Thanks for the message and have a wonderful day! I’ll be looking forward to your next videos. がんばって！
Sorry for the late response. I work from home so I don't have to commute and can usually get 1 - 2 hours of reading in before I finish (during lunch and slower times during the day) and I do the last few hours in the afternoon. I also don't really have many other obligations so it works well for me.
How the heck do you find 5 hours a day for immersion ( ˶°ㅁ°) !! I have read TheMoeWay like half a year ago and im like 1k in Kaishi deck. The vocab just does not stick with me... but thats probably because I am doing like no immersion at all heh. I need to finally get myself together and start imersing for 1-2 hours a day...
Even if you are immersing 1 - 2 hours a day, I think it's quite normal for some words to just not stick, especially during the beginning. Even now I still forget words I've seen hundreds (or thousands) of times. I work from home so I don't have to commute and can usually get 1 - 2 hours of reading in before I finish (during lunch and slower times during the day) and I do the last few hours in the afternoon. I also don't really have many other obligations so it works well for me. Once you find an amount of time that fits your schedule and after it becomes a habit it's not that hard to stick with, especially when you find immersion material you really enjoy. Good luck!
What frequency list do you mainly use to decide which words to mine? Cause lately, I've been sentence mining a lot from novels, but I'm unsure whether I should use the LN/VN frequency list or the RUclips one. Since my main activity is reading i guess i should use the novel one but I eventually want to understand videos and speech too. However, as I mostly sentence mine novel words that are usually rarer in speech, I'm worried I might be doing myself a disservice like maybe i should read novels and mainly use the youtube frequency list?
I use the JPDB v2.1 Frequency list, which I think is based of novels. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with other ones so can't say what the differences are or which one to use, but we seem to be in a pretty similar situation (mainly reading but don't want to hinder speaking/listening). Personally, I don't mind adding words based on novel frequency since that's how I like to immerse so getting better at reading makes sense, and you will still see a lot of words used in speech (apart from slang?) so it's not too bad.
@@hulloh yeah, that makes sense, i've been doing just that but i wasn't totally sure it was the right approach. So i needed to hear it from someone to feel a bit more at ease with my method and your comment just did that so thanks. Anyways, i'm really looking forward for your next update keep it up
What about Output, Have you started doing that like speaking to yourself, or are you waiting to do it further down the learning path. I don´t really know how to train output, except for talking to myself and others. If you have any tips I would appreciate it.
I haven't done any output yet. I'm not sure when the best time to start would be, maybe in 3 - 6 months. Depending on the topic, I feel like I could understand texts from other people (not speaking yet, my listening still sucks), but responding appropriately would be the issue. There are some ways to interact with natives like using HelloTalk or Italki. VRchat also seems like a good option to get used to talking/listening in groups, although I haven't used any so can't speak from experience.
@@AdumbDoorhinge As long as you have around 1k of the most common vocab down, you could start reading whenever really. I'd probably say start with some easier manga and slowly increase the difficulty, but of course you can start harder if you can tolerate it and still enjoy it.
I'm trully just built different. I've been studying for more than 3 years now and my reading speed averages at 5k/h. I'm a slow reader in general and I don't even try to read faster, but still surprises me how easily people pass through 5k/h. It doesn't feel slow to me. The fastest I've ever been reading was during one of the chapters in my "The house in Fata Morgana" playthrough. The speed peaked at 8.5k/h, and I felt like I was zooming through the dialogue :).
星空の下、君の声だけを抱きしめる - Not too hard and an ok story, I wish I had started with this one. ぜんぶ、藍色だった。- Short and easy but the story is very boring. また、同じ夢を見ていた - Pretty popular first novel for a lot of people (including me), story is good but still nothing special. 灰原くんの強くて青春ニューゲーム - A slight step up in difficulty compared to the others but shouldn't be too much, also has multiple volumes if you enjoy the story. Your first novel will always be a bit of a challenge compared to manga but once you push past the first 5 - 10 hours it gets a lot more comfortable reading.
My comment probably missed your attention but would it be possible for you to send the template from the excel/google sheets that you're using to track your time?
Sorry for the late reply! Honestly, I would recommend using Stevijs's spreadsheet over mine, his is a lot more organised and has a better layout in comparison. Or you could try making your own, seems odd but since I made it myself I enjoy using it more than one someone else made (similar feeling to premade vs self-made Anki cards).
I'd suggest looking at TheMoeWay resource list on their website or their discord, they have methods for every kind of content. Otherwise if you're just looking for LN's you could get them from Amazon JP or BookWalker, I think they're the easiest to buy from.
If you already have the LN epub then you can use in browser ttsu reader, it has some really nice features like timing characters/hr and daily time goals. If you're asking where to get the epubs, then either check out TheMoeWay discord/website or buy them on Amazon JP, BookWalker, etc.
It's hard to say apart from just "a lot" tbh. Sometimes I could read pages without any unknown words and other times having multiple every sentence. Definitely more than usual since it's my first real fantasy manga, but nothing too bad (apart from volume 11 that was hard for me).
Are you tolerating ambiguity while you read? Because for me, I look up every unknown word and try to make meaning of the vast majority of grammar points that I don't know. Even then, sometimes it takes me a long time to parse a sentence. I'm just asking because I feel like it takes me a long ass time to read through just a couple chapters of manga. Thanks in advance.
I usually look up most words while reading, if I didn't understand a sentence or wasn't fully paying attention I'll quickly reread and if I still don't understand I'll just move on. I also enjoy reading without pausing to look up unknown words and just trying to keep focused on the story not about what I don't understand, although I only do this after I've already mined 25 cards for the day. I know some people do prefer to try and fully understand everything they read even if it's slower, so I think it's just a preference thing.
@@hulloh Damn you responded hella fast. I appreciate the insight. Also I can't wait for the 1 year update. Videos like these help me keep my eye on the prize in my own studies.
Oh it’s best for you to stop all that nonsense, quit anki and don’t look up words. Just watch/read 98% comprehensible content. Studies show it’s the most efficient method and provides the best results.
Both the longer and shorter videos are interesting. Feel free to base the video length on whatever you like, it’s your video after all. Thanks for sharing
5:46
Yeah, I've been there, too^^ IMHO it pays off to watch the first episode of a new anime with subtitles. Sure, it breaks immersion for twenty minutes, but it increases comprehension for the rest of the season :)
Gread vid! I just came across your 3-month japanese progress update videos yesterday and binge-watched the whole series. They help me keep motivated to learn Chinese as I have been feeling exhausted keeping up the language journey these days. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing!
Please post more 😭 I love your videos and am really happy that you uploaded, since I thought you’d close the channel.
@@grate77 Glad you enjoy them 😅 Hopefully in a month I'll post another short update (if it seems interesting enough) but otherwise every few months feels like the sweet spot for the updates.
It's just enough time to see a difference compared to the last video, but not too much that it's boring.
Really enjoyable and motivating to watch, keep it up!
Just came across your channel, this is so cool!
Thanks for sharing! I found your first immersion update video when I started in May of this year. It has been very helpful in keeping me motivated, your expriences are fairly similar to mine in terms of Anki and grammar. Although I really need to work on my reading, currently I have double the number of hours spent listening and would like to do a 50/50 split between the two. Current goal is 1600hrs of active by the start of the new year! Excited to see your progress at the end of the year!
@@thenextgengamerpc9920 Glad it helped a little with motivation! I still love watching these kinds of videos from other people too, it's interesting to see how different everyone's methods are.
1600 hours sounds like a really solid goal to aim for, especially with a 50/50 split of listening and reading, you'll be in a really good spot if so!
Honestly thank you so much for this! It's very interesting to follow your journey :)
This was super interesting to watch and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your journey.
It's also very interesting for me to compare immersion hours with you, since I've only spent around 700h+ of active learning on Japanese but due to the fact that I've been learning for many years, I have around 8-9k cards in Anki. In a way I think I'd even call it unfair since with 1400 hours you should probably have "earned" a larger vocabulary than you have in anki at least. There's also a chance that you know a ton of words that you just haven't put into Anki or repped yet, whereas for me, Anki represents my maximum vocab knowledge as I know very little vocab that I haven't put into Anki yet.
I know you didn't ask for advice but if you feel like you're lacking vocab, it might be worth it to bump up your new cards per day in anki (while trying not to burn out). This isn't "recommended", but 5h of active immersion a day is not for the average bloke either. A lot of people I know who got good very fast basically speedran vocab at the start (some people doing 50+ new cards a day, insanity imo) and then toned it down to like 20 new words per day after some time. But again, if you feel like you might burn out, don't do this, and if you feel like you're getting enough outside anki vocab then you don't have to do this either. The reason people have had decent success with this method is because of the fact that immersion is more efficient aka you get more language gains from immersion the more vocab and other language knowledge you already have. But enjoying learning is the most important part so feel free to disregard all of this lmao.
Oh and some japanese youtubers I like watching are:
www.youtube.com/@homosapi
www.youtube.com/@SUSHIRAMEN-Riku
www.youtube.com/@kimagurecook
www.youtube.com/@ANNnewsCH/videos
I also watch some idol and cooking channels and I can drop links to those if you want as well :D
Thanks for the comment and advice!
Definitely agree with you about Anki, sounds like you're in a really good spot being around 9k cards without needing too many new cards per day.
I do think I should have more but it's quite hard to "catch up" without doing a large amount of cards per day.
I did increase my new cards to 25 a day last month so by the 1 year mark I should be at around 6k which isn't too bad. Feel like I'm at a point where vocab is holding me back so focusing on it should help a lot over the next few months, and 25 is manageable without burning out.
Also, thanks for the channels, I do enjoy cooking videos so I'll definitely check out the ones you sent.
Good luck with your Japanese too, it's always nice to hear what others are doing and how similar/different their journey is.
@@hulloh Yee that sounds good
The channels I sent were miscellaneous stuff. Two of them also happen to cook in their videos but they aren't really true cooking channels. The cooking channels I watch are:
www.youtube.com/@ryuji825/videos
www.youtube.com/@chef_Fabio
www.youtube.com/@user-gi6se9kr7k/videos
www.youtube.com/@KOUSEI0828
i have been waiting for this video good for finally watch it
My 1.5 year journey has been super chill, very irregular and i am basing it based on my personal observation that i know in the ball park of 2500-3000 words and 300+ kanji. I assume its low tho i have gotten a bit better at it, my main goal atm is understanding music, games and be able to speak and read at an intermediate level.
good luck with your journey!
4:51 jesus that's more than what I've read in english in that time, haven't really read in japanese much at all because my vocab is still so small
New videooo! ❤️
I really enjoyed watching your videos, and it motivated me to finally take my Japanese learning seriously (attended classes for 2 years already but haven't done much except it so I'm still a beginner) and I would love to also be able to put my time into an excel sheet. Would it be possible for you to share the template you're using?
I would really like a smaller video in a month about the experience increasing your daily hours if you think it's worth making. I'm in a similar position to you right now doing 5hrs a day but the reverse in the fact I am making myself read after doing a lot of listening last year xD
Good luck on your adventure :p
Hey, I was wondering how long it takes you to make these videos? I'm getting very close to 6 months and making an update video sounds like a lot of fun. But spending 20 Hours of my immersion time figuring out how to make a RUclips video is a lot, which in that case I might just do a talking into the camera type Video. Also how do you find the clips you use?, do you go and record them manually or is there some Anime Clips Library that I've never heard of?
Your video's have been pretty inspiring and it's really nice to see someone who's 6 months ahead of me so that I more or less know what's to come. Looking forward for the Year Update!
Hey, I'd say around 20 - 30 hours seems right.
I suck at editing so it takes me longer and for clips I quickly skim through anime I recently watched on 4x speed to find them, so that adds a bit of time too.
If you went for a talking style video it shouldn't take too much time away from immersion so that might be a good idea!
Would definitely recommend trying it out since it is quite fun, keeps you accountable and in a few months when you look back you'll be able to see the huge amount of progress you've made.
I'll be sure to check it out if you do.
@@hulloh Thanks for the reply, I'll probably just start writing the script and see how I feel about editing afterwards, but I'll definitely make a video either way!
Nicely put together video! Stuff like this makes me wish I tracked my own studying more to throw out a progress update too!
3:27 relatable, maybe next year i'll be able to go through steins;gate at a reasonable pace...
checked my anki and surprisingly my own 6 month mark has already passed a couple weeks ago, the time just flying by.
Any plans to tackle the jlpt this year? Or any interest in it at all?
Good luck in your studies fellow learner!
@@paragondissonance Thanks for the comment. Steins;Gate is actually the VN I'm most interested in too but maybe next year I'll try it out as well, my vocab isn't quite there yet atm.
Grats on the 6 month mark, it does just fly by.
And, also currently no plans for the JLPT. Maybe at the end of next year I'll think about it though!
Love these randomly popping on my fyp, the most inspiring thing to kick learning into gear lol
Also a question, since you're sentence mining while also immersing a lot. Do you just have a large backlog of new cards in Anki from sentence mining? I imagine you're finding more new than you're going through with that many hours of immersion daily
I usually only have around 20-30 cards backlogged.
I could definitely mine 40-50 cards a day but I try to only mine high frequency words or if I've seen the word in a couple of different books.
@@hulloh Oh so you don't just mine every word you don't know?
Great video! I’m really fond these sort of videos inspiring and a great way in the future for you to track your journey! You’re video is show clear and professional. It’s a really calm, easy watch and has a lot of good info for beginners and also people who have been learning.
Just one thing I found quite odd, why did you say you’ve been learning Japanese for 9 months when you had a 3 month video 16 months ago? It could be quite misleading to absolute beginners to think they could start Japanese from absolute 0 beginner and progress this much! Sorry if it sounds nit picking I just don’t understand the point of misleading how much time has been spent studying? Or is there another reason why you word it like this? Maybe it’s been 9 months of continuous good studying? Sorry if you mentioned this before in a previous video
Thanks for the comment and good question.
I started learning last year to get a little more familiar with the language before a trip to Japan later in the year, I did just over 4 months of "study" before leaving for Japan (and as you can imagine, it didn't help all that much).
I didn't start learning again until 5 or 6 months after returning, so in total it's been just over 9 months of study now but from when I first started it's around a year and a half.
I figured it would be easier to just carry on the videos instead of removing them.
I personally prefer counting hours spent over months anyway but it's easier for video titles to just say months.
Hope this helped!
Hey hulloh! Thanks for the reply 😸.
Yeh that’s super helpful! It’s definitely a painful feeling when you try to learn so much for a trip and end up not getting as much done before as there are so many other things to prepare for. I firmly believe the benefits of visiting these countries definitely lies within the motivation they bring to learn language or immerse in culture!! When I visited Japan it also encouraged me to get more serious!
I think it makes sense to count the exact amount of time for serious studying too as if you can see that ‘wow if I really focus for 9 months I can get … done’ and that also motivates you to keep those study patterns, good point! It’s also just good to have data to see when, what, how, which is the best for you!
I guess when you start isn’t important, the most important thing is consistency.
Also the titles defo sound captivating adding a time frame😸
Thanks for the message and have a wonderful day! I’ll be looking forward to your next videos.
がんばって！
5 hours a day is insane... i def don't have that much willpower
I might have to rewatch your videos because maybe I missed it, but how do you fit in 5 hours of immersion each day into your schedule?
Sorry for the late response.
I work from home so I don't have to commute and can usually get 1 - 2 hours of reading in before I finish (during lunch and slower times during the day) and I do the last few hours in the afternoon. I also don't really have many other obligations so it works well for me.
How the heck do you find 5 hours a day for immersion ( ˶°ㅁ°) !! I have read TheMoeWay like half a year ago and im like 1k in Kaishi deck. The vocab just does not stick with me... but thats probably because I am doing like no immersion at all heh. I need to finally get myself together and start imersing for 1-2 hours a day...
Even if you are immersing 1 - 2 hours a day, I think it's quite normal for some words to just not stick, especially during the beginning.
Even now I still forget words I've seen hundreds (or thousands) of times.
I work from home so I don't have to commute and can usually get 1 - 2 hours of reading in before I finish (during lunch and slower times during the day) and I do the last few hours in the afternoon. I also don't really have many other obligations so it works well for me.
Once you find an amount of time that fits your schedule and after it becomes a habit it's not that hard to stick with, especially when you find immersion material you really enjoy.
Good luck!
What streamers are you watching Im looking for some more passive listening?
What frequency list do you mainly use to decide which words to mine? Cause lately, I've been sentence mining a lot from novels, but I'm unsure whether I should use the LN/VN frequency list or the RUclips one. Since my main activity is reading i guess i should use the novel one but I eventually want to understand videos and speech too.
However, as I mostly sentence mine novel words that are usually rarer in speech, I'm worried I might be doing myself a disservice like maybe i should read novels and mainly use the youtube frequency list?
I use the JPDB v2.1 Frequency list, which I think is based of novels.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with other ones so can't say what the differences are or which one to use, but we seem to be in a pretty similar situation (mainly reading but don't want to hinder speaking/listening).
Personally, I don't mind adding words based on novel frequency since that's how I like to immerse so getting better at reading makes sense, and you will still see a lot of words used in speech (apart from slang?) so it's not too bad.
@@hulloh yeah, that makes sense, i've been doing just that but i wasn't totally sure it was the right approach.
So i needed to hear it from someone to feel a bit more at ease with my method and your comment just did that so thanks.
Anyways, i'm really looking forward for your next update keep it up
What about Output, Have you started doing that like speaking to yourself, or are you waiting to do it further down the learning path. I don´t really know how to train output, except for talking to myself and others. If you have any tips I would appreciate it.
I haven't done any output yet. I'm not sure when the best time to start would be, maybe in 3 - 6 months.
Depending on the topic, I feel like I could understand texts from other people (not speaking yet, my listening still sucks), but responding appropriately would be the issue.
There are some ways to interact with natives like using HelloTalk or Italki.
VRchat also seems like a good option to get used to talking/listening in groups, although I haven't used any so can't speak from experience.
Ive been doing 2 hours of freeflow immersion while working on my JP1K deck, when would you recommend I start reading?
@@AdumbDoorhinge As long as you have around 1k of the most common vocab down, you could start reading whenever really.
I'd probably say start with some easier manga and slowly increase the difficulty, but of course you can start harder if you can tolerate it and still enjoy it.
I'm trully just built different. I've been studying for more than 3 years now and my reading speed averages at 5k/h. I'm a slow reader in general and I don't even try to read faster, but still surprises me how easily people pass through 5k/h. It doesn't feel slow to me. The fastest I've ever been reading was during one of the chapters in my "The house in Fata Morgana" playthrough. The speed peaked at 8.5k/h, and I felt like I was zooming through the dialogue :).
could you recommend a first novel for someone who's studying japanese for 5-6 months but reads only manga?
星空の下、君の声だけを抱きしめる - Not too hard and an ok story, I wish I had started with this one.
ぜんぶ、藍色だった。- Short and easy but the story is very boring.
また、同じ夢を見ていた - Pretty popular first novel for a lot of people (including me), story is good but still nothing special.
灰原くんの強くて青春ニューゲーム - A slight step up in difficulty compared to the others but shouldn't be too much, also has multiple volumes if you enjoy the story.
Your first novel will always be a bit of a challenge compared to manga but once you push past the first 5 - 10 hours it gets a lot more comfortable reading.
@@hulloh Thanks a lot for answering me!
So you have been reading on average 5 hours per day for the last 3 months?
My comment probably missed your attention but would it be possible for you to send the template from the excel/google sheets that you're using to track your time?
Sorry for the late reply!
Honestly, I would recommend using Stevijs's spreadsheet over mine, his is a lot more organised and has a better layout in comparison.
Or you could try making your own, seems odd but since I made it myself I enjoy using it more than one someone else made (similar feeling to premade vs self-made Anki cards).
@@hulloh thank you so much for the reply! I will check out the Stevijs' one and use it as a template to make my own :)
I love how dude pretends to be nonchalant even though he's trying his hardest
If I'm spending 5+ hours a day on something I'd hope I'm trying hard!
What are you using to integrate Yomitan with the program you're using to read books?
It's the ttsu reader in browser if you want to using Yomitan while reading novels
Where do you get the material to read?
I'd suggest looking at TheMoeWay resource list on their website or their discord, they have methods for every kind of content.
Otherwise if you're just looking for LN's you could get them from Amazon JP or BookWalker, I think they're the easiest to buy from.
i don't know if i feel good for you, or bad when comparing myself
where do you go to read the LN's?
If you already have the LN epub then you can use in browser ttsu reader, it has some really nice features like timing characters/hr and daily time goals.
If you're asking where to get the epubs, then either check out TheMoeWay discord/website or buy them on Amazon JP, BookWalker, etc.
Hi hullo. I have a question. On average, how many new words per chapter you came across when reading sousou no frieren?
It's hard to say apart from just "a lot" tbh.
Sometimes I could read pages without any unknown words and other times having multiple every sentence.
Definitely more than usual since it's my first real fantasy manga, but nothing too bad (apart from volume 11 that was hard for me).
What is refold is it free?
Are you tolerating ambiguity while you read? Because for me, I look up every unknown word and try to make meaning of the vast majority of grammar points that I don't know. Even then, sometimes it takes me a long time to parse a sentence. I'm just asking because I feel like it takes me a long ass time to read through just a couple chapters of manga. Thanks in advance.
I usually look up most words while reading, if I didn't understand a sentence or wasn't fully paying attention I'll quickly reread and if I still don't understand I'll just move on.
I also enjoy reading without pausing to look up unknown words and just trying to keep focused on the story not about what I don't understand, although I only do this after I've already mined 25 cards for the day.
I know some people do prefer to try and fully understand everything they read even if it's slower, so I think it's just a preference thing.
@@hulloh Damn you responded hella fast. I appreciate the insight. Also I can't wait for the 1 year update. Videos like these help me keep my eye on the prize in my own studies.
Oh it’s best for you to stop all that nonsense, quit anki and don’t look up words. Just watch/read 98% comprehensible content. Studies show it’s the most efficient method and provides the best results.
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