Thanks Peter, I attended one of your fly casting classes at Narrabeen about 35 years ago, you started me on the right track with my fly casting and fly fishing. I am still learning and still fishing. Great video
Thanks. You answered some questions and thoughts I have had for some time, and could not find an answer. Short and precise, and now I get it. Thanks :-)
Okay, so I'm five years older than you and reluctant to admit that my arm strength isn't what it used to be when I played a lot of squash twenty-five years ago. And weighted flies are illegal here in Eastern Canada, so we're regularly casting large, but not heavy flies for stripers (and sometimes even for Atlantic salmon). This is a wonderful lesson for me. Thank you so very much!
I'm not a fan of glass because of the extra weight, especially up around 9 & 10 weights, but by pulling through the cast and applying the power (ultimate rotation) late through the wrist I don't have a problem with casting this way because of the speed you can generate@@MrSurfangler
@@petermorse5442 , thanks for the explanation, What about two handed overhead casting ? would it not be less intensive on the body? I am new to fly fishing as well and was a bit curious about this
@petermorse5442 Thanks for the tips, and very nice casting!! I am trying to cast size 2 flys with a 7wt, and having a miserable experience with no distance whatsoever. I can normally cast small flies no problem with double hauling. Would you say it's technique, or do you need more line weight for size 2 flies? From what I read online, a 7wt should handle it, but Im wondering how true this is? Any insight would be appreciated! Im using basic equipment, nothing fancy, even a shorter leader with no luck.
The biggest enemy of good fly casting is slack. It could be that the air resistance of the bigger fly is slowing down your line speed and that your timing (coming forward) is therefore out (ie too soon). Timing with a big fly is different to timing with a small fly (on the same line). This is the usual cause. If the fly is weighted it can also kick around on the backcast and this introduces slack as well. Start by building distance and focus on maintaining tension. Also it just maybe that there's insufficient mass in the line to carry the fly, "use enough gun" as the saying goes. Also check out the oval cast on my page here - its my preferred technique for flies that would be considered "too big" for the gear in hand as it maintains tension throughout the cast.
I tried Lefty’s way and I was never able to be successful and it hurt my elbow. I also started using this style and had less elbow pain and could fish all day without getting tired. You are throwing the fly using your legs and upper body rotation. I bass fish and I throw weighted and unweighted 4” & 6” flies. I am also 65 year old.
I use this cast off the bank, no problem. Important that you maintain tension to avoid slack in the rod leg of the loop. I use it wading in saltwater as well, especially when I want to throw flies at GT's. Tension, tension, tension and line speed.
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Thanks Peter, I attended one of your fly casting classes at Narrabeen about 35 years ago, you started me on the right track with my fly casting and fly fishing. I am still learning and still fishing. Great video
Fantastic video. A real pleasure to watch this effortless distance
Thanks. You answered some questions and thoughts I have had for some time, and could not find an answer. Short and precise, and now I get it. Thanks :-)
Okay, so I'm five years older than you and reluctant to admit that my arm strength isn't what it used to be when I played a lot of squash twenty-five years ago. And weighted flies are illegal here in Eastern Canada, so we're regularly casting large, but not heavy flies for stripers (and sometimes even for Atlantic salmon). This is a wonderful lesson for me. Thank you so very much!
Thanks Stephen.
lots of great instruction!
Great video Peter!
Thanks Shane.
Thank you very much
Nice film! 👌💯
Nice 👍 SaltR8 looks good,
Amazing video, Peter! Im from Norway and like fishing for Pike. So this video was very helpful. Thank you!
great clip, bit more of wind factor and challenging situation and it will be just perfect ! Thank you for the work and sharing!
Thanks, That's a very good point and yes when the conditions become unsettling this stroke comes right into its own.
Do you think a slower rod with more glass would be better? So that the deeper bend would make the tip travel straighter?
I'm not a fan of glass because of the extra weight, especially up around 9 & 10 weights, but by pulling through the cast and applying the power (ultimate rotation) late through the wrist I don't have a problem with casting this way because of the speed you can generate@@MrSurfangler
@@petermorse5442 ,
thanks for the explanation, What about two handed overhead casting ? would it not be less intensive on the body? I am new to fly fishing as well and was a bit curious about this
You made me think differently….heavy vs large. Hmmm? Comfort vs perfection. Thank you
Cheers dude helpful
Nice
@petermorse5442 Thanks for the tips, and very nice casting!! I am trying to cast size 2 flys with a 7wt, and having a miserable experience with no distance whatsoever. I can normally cast small flies no problem with double hauling. Would you say it's technique, or do you need more line weight for size 2 flies? From what I read online, a 7wt should handle it, but Im wondering how true this is? Any insight would be appreciated! Im using basic equipment, nothing fancy, even a shorter leader with no luck.
The biggest enemy of good fly casting is slack. It could be that the air resistance of the bigger fly is slowing down your line speed and that your timing (coming forward) is therefore out (ie too soon). Timing with a big fly is different to timing with a small fly (on the same line). This is the usual cause. If the fly is weighted it can also kick around on the backcast and this introduces slack as well. Start by building distance and focus on maintaining tension. Also it just maybe that there's insufficient mass in the line to carry the fly, "use enough gun" as the saying goes. Also check out the oval cast on my page here - its my preferred technique for flies that would be considered "too big" for the gear in hand as it maintains tension throughout the cast.
Thank you kindly! @@petermorse5442
Hi Peter!
What leader do you use? Thanks😉
What for? What species, how big, what conditions, what fly. All variables that determine the leader make up.
Both stroke lengths look identical to me. What am I missing?
There's about 50cm difference between the two. Perhaps the angle.
What does wide ock mean?
Arc.....
Are there fish rising in the background through this whole clip?
Gas bubbles from rotting vegetation.
@@petermorse5442 interesting, and thank you
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Hi, why not to use the Lefty kreh style? It is probably less critical for joints
Not as effective for big flies and distance.
@@petermorse5442 thank you 😊
I tried Lefty’s way and I was never able to be successful and it hurt my elbow. I also started using this style and had less elbow pain and could fish all day without getting tired. You are throwing the fly using your legs and upper body rotation. I bass fish and I throw weighted and unweighted 4” & 6” flies. I am also 65 year old.
fish bubbles behind you at 4:30 time stamp
Gas bubbles from rotting vegetation........
DANG!!!!!! Not nearly as exciting. But thanks for the help on the cast.
Works on a boat not on some bank like this I would be afraid hanging in the grass immediately.
I use this cast off the bank, no problem. Important that you maintain tension to avoid slack in the rod leg of the loop. I use it wading in saltwater as well, especially when I want to throw flies at GT's. Tension, tension, tension and line speed.