Army Tent vs Yurt, which is better for living On Your Off Grid Property?
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Which is better for your mountain property, an army tent or yurt? We really like yurts but this was a quick inexpensive option that we will most likely take down during the winter. It is very spacious and comfortable for guests. We are looking forward to being in the path of the full eclipse on Aug. 21 and knew we would need room for company! #essentialmountainhomesteading #homesteading #ruralliving #cabinbuilder #homebuilder #diyhomebuild #howtobuild #cabinliving #mountainliving
I like army tent!
If you talked to me the way you talked to these guys while they were working I would have planted your ass in the mud
lol month later, noticed he removed his comment.
Sir Nuggets Lol
Quick trying to talk tough and watch the video,
@@Dainith quit not quick, i've watched this video half a dozen times now. The guy is an asshole to the workers.
These are a great way to avoid zoning issues, property taxes, etc. as a tent is considered a temporary structure in many municipalities.
Having used these in the Army you will need a few things to make them more cozy and reliable.
1. Set the guide lines out and use good quality stakes, not the ones which come with it.
2. It will need a liner for the temp extremes (below 40 and above 90). The ones made for them hang about 1 foot inside it offering great insulation.
3. Be sure to set the tent's sidewall seal all the way around to avoid drafts. If you didn't overbuild the pad they'll have to be attached to the frame. Any gap will = drafts. I'd staple it and duct tape it.
4. Put a Yukon stove or similar in it. It is great for heating and cooking.
5. Use one of the ventilation holes to setup a small fridge in summer. Move the fridge inside in winter for extra heat.
6. Protect it with a burlap cover. They're typically put about 3 feet over the tent and extend 2/3rds the way down on all sides. For the entrance -it's higher to make an entryway type awning. Besides protecting the tent from flying debris, sun and pelting rain and sleet (so you can sleep) it helps to moderate temps inside the tent. The awning and covered entrance make a great place to store stuff and work outside under partial cover. As the burlap accumulates leaves, twigs, grass, etc. it will provide great camouflage as it naturally breaks up the tent lines and smooths the appearance.
Done right these tents are great 'temporary' shelters.
So I'm watching a floor system and plywood installation..man
Not exactly what title said..
I was part of a medical unit in Desert Shield/Storm. We set up these tents (TEMPER) in the desert and lived in them for months. The kit was missing the insulated floor and the interior liner. The outer shell was designed to be impermeable to liquids and along with the proper HVAC unit attached provided filtered air into the tent which had positive pressure inside to prevent chemical or biological agents from entering the tent (provided you've also got the vestibule attached with solid doors) The great thing about the tent is that it also came with power outlets as well as fluorescent lights. The tent is also modular so you could take two of those kits and put them end to end and make a bigger tent. I had extensive training on the setup of these during the month of December 1990 at Fort Indiantown Gap, PA.
Cool
I thought I recognized the T.E.M.P.E.R. framework, which sets the roof header higher that it would be in the Expanded Frame Tent. The extra vertical clearance allowed the 10"-12" deck to set inside. Very nice!
Mr. Sarcasm is a real jerk. I hope he's paying those guys a lot to take that abuse.
Ok, where's the comparison between the Army Tent and the Yurt? What makes one better than the other at whatever?
This video is "A bunch of people put together a wooden deck to put a tent on."
My cousin live in his Vietnam Army tent in the woods behind my house, for 5 years here in Missouri. Prolly about 1000 feet into the woods. All 5 years he used and generator that ran on propane. And he had alil wood stove. He basically lived off grid.
Gitlit...
May I, too?
Im a girl and I wish to live off grid..but Im scared bc Im by myself..and I got no outdoor skills...but if I live in a tent on someones property for say, a year...I would feel much more ready to venture into the great wild.
Ya know.?..so yeah, I may ?.?
😉😘🙏🏽
If you love long videos of drilling wood together your in luck.
Griefing the free labor? There's a plan sure to work for everyone.
I purchased the same tent, surplus, brand new in a crate with the frame. I use it for camping in the eastern Nevada desert. Have used it 4 times now. It will withstand high winds. 70 mph. Stays very dry inside. Also designed to block light from emitting from it at night. I found a brand new surplus inner liner for the tent for about $250 online. It adds a lot of insulation value in the winter. I have used this tent in winter with a wood stove. Works great! Had 8 inches of snow dump on us one night! Some day I hope to put my tent up on a platform like this. Will make for a very comfortable shelter! If you plan to leave it up for extended periods I would recommend some sort of external frame and some additional tarps over the top just to protect it from the sun. Thanks for sharing the video!
Jim Gillespie
Thanks for the idea of a liner, I will do some research and see if I can find one
Liner set only $145 at www.military-tent.com. I think I paid $250 for mine from a different vendor. It will take two liners for the 16x16 tent. So just make sure this is what you are getting when you buy it! I believe the $145 set is both liners!
Hgg
Jim Gillespie Just don't use treated wood for the foundation, unless you're into cancer.
rich, treated wood is nothing more than a salt water brine.
Who's the "boss" with the mouth? He acts like he's just the smartest person ever. You got it buddy,always bad mouth the help, that way next time you won't have to worry about the help because none of them will come back,Jerk!
Based on my military experience with large scale tents is the raised platforms will draw rodents and snakes especially in the winter months if your tent is heated. This is 100% guaranteed
how bout on rail road ties/no space underneath
Sounds like an eco lab problem?
That's what I always wonder about with the raised cabins and all. Things will nest under the building whatever kind it is. Janice
Snakes and diesel fuel will reside in same spot....when. snake hunting ,can spray diesel into stump holes and snakes will come out and can catch them.... snakes will not cross over a line of sulfer powder boarder outside boarder of tent
It's got to be better than sitting on the ground
Keep an eye out for old camper trailers and rvs. You often can find them for less than $1000. I have been living in my $900 Tioga for over a year now through -10F winters and 100+ F Missouri humid summers comfortably. Best of all I drove it 2k miles to get here and starts right up every time.
Shane Gorter Amarugias!
Much easier to do the roof lacing BEFORE YOU RAISE THE FRAME.....and that's the way the Tech Order says to do it as well. Also, the exterior windows should be rolled UNDER so water does not pool in them.
After doing a little time in the military (10+ years) I can tell you you're going to have to do something about the interior of the tent. They have a habit of building condensation on the interior as the vents can only release so much moisture into the air. This is due to the fabric of the tent and also these tents do not hold temperature for long periods of time without the proper insulation layer. This layer will also help with the condensation buildup on the walls and ceiling. Just giving fair warning, unless you enjoy your own saliva dripping on your head.
that last sentence was so descriptive ... just had to comment
Orlos The Druid You're suppose to, but I know it doesn't happen too often. As much as vets try to act all tough and say they were the embodiment of Rambo bred with John McClain, they button up in the winter and wind tunnel it in the summer. Fact is, tent life really isn't as hard as some make it out to be. Also, when you sleep it still builds condensation in the short amount of time with it correctly aired out earlier. I lived in these tents quite a bit in pretty much every shit condition as well. I too was infantry, so sleeping in one of these bad boys was a luxury; but then again a grunt superpower is to sleep in anything, anywhere. Just like fapping. My little minions found time to play pecker racer in all conditions. Grunts I tell ya.
Orlos The Druid
Love them 11B Troops....
Gave us USAF Fly Boys a job hauling them and their tents ⛺️ a ride the the War Zone...
Mathew Ada
15 Years CAF myself.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "the fabric of the tent." That's the problem; the tent isn't fabric. Or at least it doesn't look like it. What's needed is a liner. The condensation problem is especially bad in cold weather but the liner pretty much eliminates any buildup.
Obviously condensation is always pure H2O, but I appreciate the saliva joke.
Dude you need a duller blade and a weaker battery for that saw... Loved the unpacking of the tent!! Pulled the lid off the box and left those nail or screw heads all around the outside edge. Then pulled the tent up out and rest it on..... the EDGE with the nails in it! Brilliant! BRAVO!
Wayne Davis,
Yesterday we boxed up the tent for winter and those nails in the lid made for easy repacking!
Wow, so much effort involved in the floor. Every tent I slept in (in the military) had a brown, earthy like floor made of dirt.
"Hey smart guy" sounds like a nice way to address something you dont agree with (NOT)
I voted you down because that was really not a way to talk to anybody
how clever at 2.16 he just tore the lid off the box and left loads of nails sticking out the edge of the box then lifted the tent on the edge of the box and nearly ripped it...
Why do you continuously insult the kid?
D Lef agreed.this is the reason I prefer not to work with most people
One day he'll zing the kid, and the child will lay that crowbar upside daddy's head. "CAN YOUR GRANDMA DO THIS, DAD? WHAT, NO SNAPPY COMEBACK? TOO BUSY LYING ON THE GROUND CLUTCHING YOUR COCONUT?"
D Lef I bet he was the school bully always picking on the little guy what a wanker
Maybe he was bullied , so he has turned it around and bullies others . I just wanted to see the army tent i thought it would be good , if he doesnt quit his bellowing i would do a ' unlike ' and quit
@@noisepuppet holy shit lol
Now you have to add shower, bathroom, and kitchen. Or you could have bought a used RV off of Craigslist for 3,000.
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David
Problem with a used camper is it's too easy for the misses to say "get that thing out of here".
As a Ms. I'd have to say that I'd rather have an RV then a fucking tent.
Once you add a solid framed floor, you've negated the portability advantage of the tent, or the yurt too, so you might as well just build a shed.
Live on Less
That is really well said, but after considering all of our options, budgets and time lines this is what works best for us.
Better than mud! Also why do you need portability? I think what they want is "temporary".
To be fair the floor looks to be somewhat mobile if you have something like a tractor trailer.
Ed McNutt Couldn't you tell he was an ungrateful ass who was only concerned with dumb downing his helpers??
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We had the Australian Army copy of this in Vietnam. Its heavy and waterproof. Floors are for sissies. You use duckboards which look like bigger freight pallets. It took up to 30 minutes from go to woa.
It's neither a bad battery, nor wet wood. It's the guy pushing the saw too fast.
selador11 also twisting the blade so it binds up. Good way to burn up the motor... lol
Battery is down, so you have to slow down and let the blade cut.
I think I'd still prefer the yurt. was hoping for more of a comparison (on more than just the price)
Dan L
I've spent a lot of time in a yurt and now I will spend some time with this tent and we will do some more videos on on how they stack up side by side.
Cool! Looking forward to that!
i prefer round vs 90deg corners and the wind does not feel as strong to a round shape...given equal size and material the yurt by far.
Left at 2:00 after slower than grandmother attempt at humor.
An army tent versus a yurt I've lived in both I've enjoyed them I've tested are yurt and it's pretty nice they can be really nice the Army Ted I've lived in one of those two and was very surprised of how comfortable it can be and the rigidity and strength of this material and design I like the tent
Making videos and carpentry. Somebody should show you how both are done. Baddd video but I loved the Yurt. Oh ya what yurt?
Not to be Mr. Negative, but the tent was Army surplus and the manufacturer was probably paid $6,000 for the tent by our tax dollars and liquidated at a loss. But still a cheap alternative to a yurt.
Richard Williamson Serves the jerk filming right!!!
Better than throwing away. And military wastes much more money on other things
hell you could have built a 12x24 shed for a third of what you spent on that crap.
The obvious answer is the yurt, but done right. It's cheaper than a tent that has to be thrown away once it starts to degrade, and all tents degrade. If your yurt is made from random parts found at the hardware store, you just have to buy those parts to replace a damaged section. One has to look at the "burning man" and the people who year on year bring the same yurts.
Plus, it's a more pleasing item, both visually and to the touch.
Unless you buy a brand new, never used military tent, you're bound to feel the stench of rot. And washing the tent isn't exactly an option, as all the protective layers are going to be ruined and have to be reapplied.
concrete would stand up better then wood over time. and it would give a good place to build a shed after you have a real place to live
That tent is a Darnell. They are really hot inside during the summer months. GP Medium are mush better and vent well for summer use.. Tubes on the bottom are for a field A/C unit. The flap in the center on the top is for the stove pipe. BTW when put up properly, the tent will NOT leak or blow down. Just sayin'.
Your standard backpacking tent becomes uncomfortably warm in direct sunlight if it is 60-65 degrees F plus.
As a kid growing up in NW Ontario, hunting and flying int areas for weeks...lots of room lots of weight , but it is the way I went a and I loved it. Hunting in winter this is the way to go. Dirt floors tarps and a nice hot wood stove. -10F.. It was always warm.
You can't cut anything serious with a DeWilt.
So where the hell is the yurt?
Why are you building at night ? Who planned this cluster ...
A GENUINE UNBOXING
yeah I go with a military tent if it's graded for subzero temp like - 40
you know wood stove and the whole nine yards
I would also make sure that I have lots of deer ,sheep,elk and bear skin laying around on the ground .
If the person knows how to do proper setting for yurt , it's actually very good like a home
so it all depends on the setup but I go for both
by the way , a good quality tipi / tepee will do too
if i had a choice, it be a tipi.yea poles are long. but with a little ingenuity you can make poles that come apart.if you set one up correctly with a liner and a ozan its not only easily transportable but much warmer without the added weight of stoves, floors, ect
No idea on US military tens, lived in a South African military tent for 18 months and also spent 12 months in Mongolia living in a Gerr/Yurt. Noting beats a Yurt for insulation and having a wood burner inside. When it rains you have to get the wood burner going to get rid of the dampness.
Spatial Interpretations let me know where to get one for $1,100.00
You asked which is better for living off grid. The technology and construction a Yurt is quite easy. If you had to make it yourself the material would be within the $1,000 budget.
Spatial Interpretations / Those Mongolian mamas pack their yurts up every season and move them with their herds to new land. They are hearty women! The country is landlocked so no fear of a tsunami. I'd just as soon stay home than freeze in a small space out there in the wilds. But that's just me. 🌹
Most rural Mongolians have 4 areas that they move to at each season. One has to live there with them to understand how it works.
Mongolian lifestyle is very old school traditional you don't see woman assembling the Gerr's it is a mans job, 3,000y old culture compared to the US culture which is only 300y old and rapidly falling apart at the seams. In a few months when the apocalypse comes one would be safer living among the Mongolians.
Looks like a nice room for guests. - Jeff
you guys look like you have alot of fun together GOD BLESS YOU
1:37 You are annoying i was waiting for them to get pissed and leave
imagine the platform could be much better with tyvek to the underside of it to create the dead air space insulation value in the floor, slows condensation up into the sheeting too.
that's a great Idea
YVMW, really. concept is simple, actually doing NOT so simple but, the slower cold comes up through the floor (pulled by heat escaping roof!), the easier it'll be to keep it warm with smaller fires. not sure what you're using exactly for wood stove, if it stays warm with smaller fires you can line the inside of the stove with fire brick, that can keep warming a couple hours after the fuel has burned. IF you're really ambitious, check out "rocket stove mass heater", I'd think a smaller one could be built using a 30 gallon drum. very cool exit pipe temp (safety!), clean burning, and a 1 hour fire can keep radiating heat all night long (longevity!). big warm bench seat to sit on a while if outside in the freeze a while too once the big slab is warmed.
The oldest known poem, translated from Sumerian:"The Hairy Martu. He lives in a yurt, has only one shirt-and is covered with dirt...yucch!
Best of both worlds love it
I haven't seen a STAOT in years ! Cute little fella! Awesome critter killers outside of cats!
i did notice that after a few mins i started getting annoyed and i then realized why.everything someone did you commented in the negative.perhaps in future get ppl who you know will do it exactly as you envision or do it yourself
next time gag the person making all that mouth noise, or leave them home.
Gregarious Solitudinist You mean the Ahole in the beginning?? The ungrateful jerk! 😣
acted and looked like a freaking snowflake.... nothing manly or off-grid about him
looks like living off the grid means you cant keep your tools powered to get the job done quickly and before dark
Its funny that y'all went overkill by putting the floor joists on 12" centers but didn't use a girder for support. "A" for effort though.
Miss those Stevie Wonder Sunglasses!!!
Hey check out that cell booster antenna booster, that guy is up by you
Like the price, if your crew wants to put the floor and tent together for me, guess I will let you bully me a little and smile about it.
Pro tip, people who frequent youtube have short attention spans. Get to the content promised by your thumb nail and or video title as soon as possible. Opening songs and intro sequences can really drag on. Your not the worst case of this pet peev of mine. the worst are typically product reviewers and DIYers who talk about irrelevant stuff like how they developed the design of their project, how they came across the product in question, or, worst of all, their day. Again your not the worst but if im bothered by your opening sequence i can assure there are others who share in this anxious impatience.
OMG I agree! Get to the point, lol. I usually check the vid track to see when the picture changes and fast forward to that spot.
Agree. Shoot the sheriff on page one. Tell us the yurt or the army tent is better, or no clear winner. Then elaborate and screw around all you want. Or better yet, call this video something like "watch us do a thing on home video."
Nice army tent!!!But all Rambo needs is a poncho.What a hotel!
Gonna be doing this real soon so thanks a lot for a inside look
What a piece of work..that clown would have had tent pole stuck some were..
set the blade depth properly on a circular saw and slow down a tad and it won't bind
Why are you so abusive to the young man in the first couple minutes of this video? Sarcasm laced with hostility.
some people like to bust each others balls. its all in good fun, nobody involved takes offense. me and my friends bust each others balls all the time. wed kill for each other...
Sexual tension. He wants that young boy booty.
Yes, we must protect that childs sensitivity.....never scold him or say a harsh word.....so he may grow and spread his wings to be....totally useless in the real world, cuz the teal world will EAT HIM ALIVE.
Ya good idea paying extra for DeWalt. Look how well it works. I had Porter Cable 18v tools for a few years and my saw cut better than that.
I built a Yurt last summer....24 ft dia. by 11 ft high...with wooden base...total cost $1,100.00
WHTF kind of yurt did you look at for $8,000.00....Gold Shield???
GRUMPZ_51 where did you buy your yurt? The one I’m looking at is about 17 grand but it goes up like an umbrella, no scaffolding or a bunch of time put into the build.
@@krystalflatt4159 seriously!
It's heart warming to see the mentally challenged try new things.
For that much money just frame it like a house and cover it in siding with a plywood roof, tar paper and shingles. Not up to suburban standards but better than living in a tent and you can improve it over time or at least turn it into a garage.
Also, just out of curiosity, why cut 4 inches off of each platform stringer. Save yourself the work and have a bigger platform.
just like any tent good luck getting it back in the original package
I lived in a 20 foot Tipi for 3 years, year round. Definately the way to go. Lived in the military tents also when in the Marines.
Those are a nightmare to set up and are very uncomfortable for using any extended time.
i remember helping the marines built tents on 2007 at Kandahar Afghanistan under rocket attacks, and they had better attitude, just a thought.
Great video! so fun to watch!
Dirtpatcheaven (please note the sarcasm)
We have been in our canvas hunting tent for 6 months now. Some days it sucks but it's better than living in a fucking cul-de-sac. One day we will have a sustainable earthship home!
+Realist Nemophilist Amen brother I hate the cul-de-sac
pressure treated wood isn't softer, it may seem that way due to the chemical moisture, and most pt is made from #2 or 3 lumber. you should have used pt plywood as well, it'll last longer.
if you have to have a tent your frame tent is a dandy, just remember when you roll the sides up stand inside the tent and roll towards you, that way moisture rolling off the tent will not get caught in the roll...if it is not really cold, undo the corners at least, that will help prevent moisture build up inside the tent, during the day (if warm enough) roll up the sides...there used to be a white liner for the tent, I think it was like a mosquito bar...at the bottom of the feet should be holes, it would greatly benefit you to get some 2 foot iron bars to drive into the holes, in case of high wind...have seen them rise off the ground with a Lt dangling off the middle cross bar...got up about 6 feet and rolled sideways...luckily no one was hurt...of course finding the proper stakes or tie downs is up to you...I really liked the frame tent because I had been involved it erecting GP large and medium tents...erecting frame tents is baby shit compared to putting GP larges and mediums...also there is a vent flap on the top of the tent you should open when possible, it has long ropes attached to both side of the flap so you do not have to climb the frame test to open them...also it paid off big time for me to dig a trench all the way around the tent, this will allow water to run off before getting to the inside of the tent...anyway hope I do not offend your intelligence...you know how us old men are...p.s. spent about 30 years in the military...
After 20 plus years in US Army you learn to put up tents FAST. Also the fly and liner would make this Temper tent good to go IMO with a decent heater....
love the weasel!
kl meyer,
He was out in the wood pile so I sat the camera down and left it for a minute and he came over to investigate the camera.
kl meyer y do u love the camera man?
8:42 if you want to skip to when the tent is actually finally being put up.
Going to be a nice useful addition for sure.
Is it really a good idea to use power tools in the dark with or without sufficient lighting, and no hearing or eye protection? Dumb, and not setting a very good example for the kids!
You shoulda called me. I learned how to do this in 1990 at Camp Bullis, TX. July 29, I might add......
Three days later, Hussein invaded Kuwait. It ruined my summer...........
JK I was a Guardsman. We didn't go anywhere, but I still learned how to make these things go up.
BTW they attach together longways. You can attach two more on and have a helluva nice "longhouse" and still not spend as much as you would on a yurt. I also noticed the liner wasn't in it and you weren't using ACUs (atmospheric control units or HVAC) on this, which would be smart, but I don't think these were set up with multifuel stoves in mind. Did it come with the liner and plenum?
The platform was a good idea and nicely done.
You guys did a good job at showing how crappy the dewalt battery saw is and lol.
Ruiner177 The real problem was twisting the cordless saw. If you pay attention he keeps wiggling the blade while cutting. This binds the blade and will burn up the motor over time. Learn how to use a circular saw first.
Sure is great that you play with your camera instead of actually helping with assembly.
Not trying to be a weirdo jumping in here. But when I bought my tent there was really no information available on the tent. Especially not any videos! I think it is very cool you guys posted the video! So just trying to pass on knowledge! Don't get to use my tent as much as I would like. But I love it. It is a great tent!
Great alternative to a yurt! Thanks for sharing!
A tent is a tent. A yurt is home. Thumbs-up for trying, though.
Joist hangers... Love em or hate em faster than 3 guys with impact guns
And the music is provided by ............ I love it.
Brother, the tent will be cold in the winter but the yurt (if it is the traditional Mongolian) would be toasty. Sure hope you have a wood stove properly installed. Still, if mobility was not necessary, I would have bought a 17 to 20 foot Older Uhaul Truck, drove it to the site, put down a simple foundation, undone the U bolts, rolled it off, anchored it in, built a regular door, waterproofed the roof, put in ventilation, electrified it, added water and septic, and installed the wood stove. Then, you could build and light a flat bed for it and use it for your farming.
Um.......this is just a construction video, not a comparison between the tent or yurt.
I also hope this is in a cool / cold climate since it's single wall, but maybe you have an AC unit to help with that.
Build a Tiny House!!!
Check out Ana White and her husband Jacob they make Tiny Homes for ppl...
You can have a kitchen and bathroom in one
BTW
I AM FIRST
Donna Hong
The Tiny Houses are on trailers and are considered recreational vehicles
Brian Curwick his friend, Julieann, from Dirtpatch Heaven, lives in one and both are in Idaho, so its difficult to accept he cannot live in a tiny house
Local rules can rule out living in tiny houses.
 GP Medium or GP Large are your best US Army alternatives. Great job guys, In the Army I set up many a Tent, Hope you also have the stove, Hal
Great Video! Who's the lucky guy gonna live in it? He's gonna need a coffee maker, clothes hanger, shoe rack, magazine holder, a blanket, maybe 2 blankets, a bunk bed, (1 fort the dog, etc......lol. Cheers.
That is a Awesome tent probably last a long time great video coming from outdoors with Mike northern Alberta Canada 🙋🏾👍🏽
Motel 6 here I come.
Rolled the window flaps the wrong way. Now rain or snow will get into your window flap roll. Try again.
"Which is better" is a subjective question without accounting for the variables.
Little to learn here.
Ha ha, I remember when we used canvas tents in the military.
Very nice
The yurt wins hands down...easy to build in the light, less wind resistance and structurally stronger...
Guys are all about putting up the tent and girls are about the interior and finished look!
You guys put them sheet of plywood on upside down the knots are supposed to go down
bobby t I believe those guys did that on purpose since that tent belongs to the cameraman and the cameraman is a jerk who publicly humiliates his free labor. I would have drove some nails down through the top of the floor joists before screwing the flooring down so it would squeak for the rest of its days.