Elden Ring Lore - The Crucible Knights Revisited
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2022
- Let's try this again. Today we explore the Crucible Knights. In celebration of our 50th episode of Elden Lore, we are revisiting the characters that put our channel on the map, but this time with significantly upgraded videos, audio, and lore.
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Of all the boss battles I encountered; fighting two of these guys at once was one of the most frustrating experiences in Elden Ring.
I can safely say that, as a paladin build, these gave me far more trouble than the Godskin Duo. I eventually resorted to using Lhutel to distract Ordovis while I took out the Tree Knight.
I ended up quitting the fight and moving on, only to come back and 3-shot the knights near the endgame. They suck, but not as much as the gargoyles did for me.
the triple crystal threat, allow us to introduce ourselves
Once I figured out just how much more aggressive Ordovis was than the Tree knight it just turned into running away until I had Ordovis alone. It was pretty simple at that point but it admittedly took me quite a few failed strategies before I realized that.
I agree that was a tough one for sure.
Something interesting, the Silurian and Ordovician are both divided into seven ages.
So with 16 Crucible knights, seven serving under each of the two named commanders, we'd have 16 name sources.
Silurian:
Ludfordian, Gorstian, Homerian, Sheinwoodian, Telychian, Aeronian, and Rhuddanian.
Ordovician:
Hirnantian, Katian, Sandbian, Darriwilian, Dapingian, Floian, and Tremadocian.
These all sound like such Fromsoft names too
Darriwil really let himself go
There is only one issue with this that i've discovered. There are not 7 of each knight order. Through the video, you can count them as all of the knights are shown. There are 9 Axe Knights and their commander Ordovis and 5 Tree Knights and their commander Siluria. While it's possible these name sources still would be quite likely, the division of them is off for this to be completely accurate, as this means we have a total of 10 knights in Axe regalia and only 6 in Tree regalia, commanders included. The other, as Golden Lost indicated, is that the name Darriwil has already been used, specifically by the Bloodhound Knight being hunted by Blaidd when we first meet him. Though two knights having the same name isn't impossible, it makes it less likely this is how all of the knights were named
and from what i know, in the code one of the knighs is actually named Floh, so it makes sense
@@ortzialberdiazpiazu7431 hmm thats interesting, theres a spirit ash named bloodhound floh, and based on OP's theory darrwil is most likely connected, perhaps the bloodhound knights are connected to the crucible aswell
By far one of the coolest enemies and armor sets in the game.
Not to mention the best defenses/poise/weight ratio in the entire game
I still want that one ability where they fly up, dive down, and then do a spinning slide.
It's really cool and I wish it was an Aspect of the Crucible incantation.
FR i hope we get that in a DLC!
Same here!
There's a good mod for it
Here's a sneak preview of what that would look like:
*Used aspect of wings*
*Goes flying off a ledge to demise*
"Welp, never using that again"
Shadow of the Erdtree:
HERE YA GO
I love that the Crucible Knights has the same stomp move as Godfrey
Who better else to learn from than Godfrey himself? 😍
Wish we had it
Call it : Stomp of Horah
Almost all the demigods have a Crucible knight keeping an eye on them. The only one that does not have one is Malenia.
And Miquella if you count the knight staring at Mohgwyn Palace as only tied to Mohg.
What about ranni?
rennala isn’t a demigod sure just a shardbearer but is there a crucible knight ar raya lucaria? just curious i can’t remember
@@christopherlyndsay8611 Ranni slew her own flesh and two fingers, absolving herself of the role of empyrean and ever becoming a demigod.
Right because malenia doesnt need one to keep watch over her. She has finlay and her own prowess.
11:37 I feel like these two Crucible Knights in the Royal Capital are there for Morgott rather than Marika considering their loyalty to Godfrey, Morgott’s relation to Godfrey & his own omen blood. All of which we know they would value more than anything Marika embraced or offered them. Not to mention their love for the Erdtree as a growing entity, which Morgott also deeply cherishes as we know.
was going to say this too but looks like i don’t need to and the video is old. makes more sense, they’d probably dislike marika and her ways
The history of the Crucible Knights is one of those few things that makes me really chafe against the limitations of this game and this genre in a good way. I so desperately want to be some way of interacting with the Knights other than combat. They are just such an interesting faction and I need talk to these guys.
Fr, in my 1st playthrough I couldn't help but be fascinated by these guys, to the point when the moment I got my hands on their armor and weapons, I just HAD to play with 'em (had a str/holy faith built too so that made it all the more tempting) , and Ordovis's greatsword + Siluria's Tree became my main set-up for the last 3rd of the game.
Wasn't OP, but it was definitely solid & reliable, and most importantly it was fun.
How I wished there was a quest where you get to talk to one....
Diving further into the story of Godfrey and his crucible Knights, the British celtic inspiration is abundant. To add to this, the only named crucible knights, Ordovis and Siluria, are named after celtic tribes of Britain, specifically in the Welsh borders, the Ordovices and the Silures.
I just watched Cambrian Chronicles' episode on Celtic Britain and it occurred to me this was a more fitting inspiration since these tribes were conquered by Rome aka the Golden Order.
These guys are one of my favorite enemies to fight. Its so engaging and fun to parry and dodge their spells. The fight w 2 of them at once is pretty overkill but doesnt ruin it for me
Yep. Typical fromsoft. Tough enemy? How about more??? Haha
The Gilded Greatshield dropped by Godrick's knights also mentions primordial red-gold. "The red tinge in the gold coat mirrors the primordial matter that became the Erdtree. The color of homeward yearning."
It's almost definitely just symbolic since Godrick is obsessed with the gold of the Erdtree and him being of the royal lineage, and it doesn't boost Crucible incantations like the Crucible Knights' armor does.
Just thought it was worth sharing, since you said it wasn't mentioned anywhere else at 14:12
The only enemies that'll give me a hard time even after countless hours into this game. Great work as always
Something also interesting is the named crucible knights are also names of Celtic tribes that lived in Roman Brittan. Considering Godfrey has King Arthur and Celtic inspirations it makes sense.
The first Crucible knight I fought was in Caelid with the misbegotten Warrior. That battle I died like over 30 times but man it was satisfying to finally beat those two. I’m starting a new character and do things I missed in my first play thru cause from your list I missed a couple of Knights in my playthru
Something to note, I believe the Crucible Knights are very much more connected to the Misbegotten than previously thought. The Winged Misbegotten ashes say:
"A spirit with the aspect of wings which takes flight to loose arrows from its bow. The misbegotten are held to be a punishment for making contact with the Crucible, and from birth they are treated as slaves, or worse."
This tells us two things:
The Misbegotten both made contact with the Crucible, and actively practice their incantations. (Aspects of the Crucible: Wings is mentioned, which doesn't exist for players, but explains how the misbegotten fly)
Which could tell us that either the Misbegotten and Crucible Knights found friendship in their common mistreatment post-Godfrey, or were actively working together in the days of the Crucible.
Pats artwork is fucking getting even better than it already was, my boy is killing it
God damn it, I want my Aspects of the Crucible: Wings incantation.
There's always dlc!
I've heard that Primordial gold being red (Helphen's grace, The amor set, Dragon lightning etc.) while Erd Tree gold being ...um, gold may be connected to The run of death being removed from the elden ring (iirc there were red elements in the death rune)
Tanith's knight is called Gug, and we know for sure that Gug is in pain
The lil thank you note in the beginning 🥺
I believe the names of the various rises where you find memory stones may have once been names for the crucible knights
Source: dude trust me
Pretty sure that's not correct
@@Hope_Prevail I think it's implied that it's the rises are where various sorcerers used to live, because we can find various sorceries occasionally in these rises, and there's a site of grace called "Sorcerer's Isle" that has a rise near it.
I sharply exhaled from ny nostrils at this post.
14:16 gilded greatshield from godrick knights
"The red tinge in the gold coat mirrors the primordial matter that
became the Erdtree. The color of homeward yearning."
The connection between Godrick and the primordial crucible also makes sense if you see why his grafting art is shunned
Bro du you think is real? I got one my self, but am scared, should we trust? Is he the real one? PLEASE ANSWER!
Grafting and the crucible being connected makes so much sense, how the fuck did that never cross my mind
I only can see the similarities of how the Primordial Crucible promotes devolution-power of beasts and life-and grafting is of a similar nature to the intense mutations on creatures related to the Primordial Crucible; both shunned due to the impure bodies they exist with. Besides that, I don’t see how else they could be related.
The crucible knight double fight was so fkn dope now I got the Armour
This was awesome. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
I think we actually see the crucibles primordial goo, in the elden beast fight that liquid on the ground. It would make sense as the golden order often absorbs and hide heretical things such as flame, and briar. The goo may be no different
After playing the DLC:
By the names of each Crucible knight set, I think they really do take inspiration from the Historical period of earth.
Silurian Period (Siluria)
Ordovician Period (Ordovis)
Devonian Period (Devonia)
maybe in the future we'll also get the Cambrian, Permian and more lmao
I have a theory that they served Placidusax but after the Dragon War they switched over to the Golden Order and kept thier Crucible powers. It wouldn't make sense for them to be allowed to learn Crucible Incantations with the Golden Order because, First who could teach them? They're the only ones who use those incantations. And Second the Golden Order hates the Crucible So why would they learn them knowing that they hate it ? I feel like Marika saw use them after the Dragon War and Conviced them to join her And Gave them to Godfrey, And that the Crucible Knight in Farum Azula looking at the dragon is Possibly mourning his dead master. Also they Have wings, horns and spit fire like they're immitading the dragons.
We need to revisit this now that the DLC has given us more insights on the crucible, the place Marika came from, and so on.
Loving the lore of the crucible knights! That explains why they're all scattered around above and below in the lands between
After the dlc trailer, I think we now know where the other crucible knight are
I'll never forgive Fromsoft for not letting us get Crucible Knight Spirit Ashes+Wing Incantations :(
I agree
Nice contribution to the conversation @@GenocidalFox
You got your wish now
@@sunkeeper8009 yessssssir
@@renegade6578 too bad we gotta wait MONTHS UGGG
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I think it's significant that the crucible knights come in two flavors, tree and axe, as this may indicate to whom they owe their allegiance to. The axe is the symbol of Godfrey and this might explain why it is the axe knights that tend to be serving other masters in rebellion of the Erdtree or indifferent to it. Conversely, the tree is the symbol of Marika (and her mightiest weapon, if Mountaintop of the Giants is any indication) which might indicate that the tree knights served her, albeit under the direction of Godfrey. This would help explain why several of them remain to protect Leyndell while no axe knights do as it wouldn't have been their master, merely their boss, who was exiled in favor of Radagon.
I really enjoyed this detailed breakdown of the knights. I listened to it as I re -explored the snowfields, and it occured to me that I had never realized there were 2 units comprising the knights or that their numbers were so small (working with the assumption that the closed beta info is cannon, which I think is fine). Thank you again for your lore dives and the effort you and the community has put into discovering the history of the lands between. It's the most fascinating world I've played in in a long time.
I wear the tree armour and weapons religiously. And the incantations. You could say I serve Siliura
Need to revisit this again since there is another in the dlc, and since it's now confirmed that Godfrey didn't fight the dragon Lord and that it was bayle
In all my 9 play throughs and through the many crucible knights I’ve fought I’ve never once seen them ever do that attack on 12:40
Yeah, wish we got that as the incant
Way to go, I'm a big fan of these Elden Lore vids... really outstanding work! Can't wait to see more! Cheers!
i just realized why the crucible knight sword said the red tinted gold of the erd tree is the true color of the erd tree and the briliant gold isnt, is because when the erdtree and the elden ring was complete it had the rune of death which had a red color to it so when marika removed the rune of death from the elden ring the red tint disappeared and became a brilliant pure gold color
Thanks to you, I now know there are three gigachad knights I completely missed in all my playthroughs. The summoned duo, I think I'd rather just kill the snail.
Minor detail, the Gilded Greatshield mentions red tinged Primordial Matter that later became the Erd Tree.
That is interesting. Also I believe you are right in the golden light of the Erdtree being an abnormality. The Erdtree feeds on the souls on the Lands Between which accounts for the gold colour. Also I believe the Erdtree grows IN the crucible itself which is how the souls feed the Outer Will via the Erdtree.
I love the crucible knights, in fact I am playing elden ring again and my character is chasing down the linkage of crucible knights gathering all trinket armour and weapons and incarnation to become crucible knight
yo i just watched the last video on this topic last night and was hoping a follow up would be done!! thank you for this series ! ❤
When people say why elden ring is a nominee for best story, this is why. The narrative is finite yet as deep as you’re willing to go look.
We now know in shadow of erdtree there was a 17th one with a hammer :3
You meed to updqte the lore man, im so excited for this
We make videos once a week! Our first dive into Shadow of the Erdtree is this Saturday and it's already locked and loaded. Members get it today ;)
This was a great revisit.😺
My favorite enemy's lore just got expanded! Thanks! Now love emm even more ✨️
I love Fighting Crucible Knight. Sword to Sword, Shield to Shield and Incantation to Incantation
I’ve watched all y’all’s videos as far as I know love the content keep it coming
Also I love what you all do!! It's because on you and Somugh that got me to want to play Elden Ring again!! Love the Lore!
Thank you for the upload!
The one that’s watching mogh bro, Like thats just so mf random lmao. Even for elden ring. He just seems like he has no ties to the underground area yet hes still hidden away? So mysterious.
Much more in depth!👍🏼👍🏼
I consider Elmer the Briar a 17th Crucible Knight cause his sword, Regalia of Eochaid, reads he comes from some land called "Eochaid". I believe the crucible knights, or at leats their armors, weapons and figthing styles are native to Eochaid.
The knight in volcano manner. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
I love you STG. You have muscled your way in as my favorite Elden lore content creator. Cowboy, vaati, and Fextralife have their places, but I’m a fan and I will always watch these. I love this world, I love your voice.
Thank you so much, for real. It's ridiculously validating to get comments like these.
Great timing I just made a crucible knight build, also you should do a thanksgiving special video on the death birds since they remind me of giant undead turkeys lmao
This channel rules!
Thank you!
Here after respecing into a Crucible Knight for the dlc.
Considering these bastards can summon wings, i dont think any of them are stuck anywhere, except the one whos in gaol, that ones probably stuck... but the ones in saiofa river probably anit stuck they can fucking fly man, lol. Like youbsaid, they're more like watching/guarding.
Another great video!
We got you bro
Managed to beat the crucible knight duo at around level 80 thanks to a +10 dark moon greatsword, the projectiles only did around 470 damage but after molesting the spear guy the moment the named one got 10 meters away I was able to calmly and easily kill the second one
The crucible gank squadron.
Making a guess, that the crucible knights are all from the Hornset population, though who rebelled against their own and sided with Marika. However cause of her deep hatred of hornsent, even in her divine state, she ordered their banishment.
I think crucible knights are my favorite enemies in any Fromsoftware game
On the hunt right now. 👿
Well, I learned something new today: Godfrey fighting Placidusax
Not 100% confirmed. Just a popular theory
@@square-table-gaming Oh I see, I see
Dlc would be cool where you go back in time to when the primordial tree existed
I bet tanith’s knight also sees more than a bit of the crucible in rykard
I feel like the removal of the mention of there being 16 Crucible Knights is partially to allow players to RP as a Crucible Knight themselves.
You guys got the boost because it was a great video. It was one of the first elden ring lore videos I ever watched, and I'm pretty sure I commented on my other account. I immediately subbed after that. I still haven't subbed to Rage Table because I hate their outro, but that's just me.
One weakness that works against the crucible knights is fire/flames weapons or pots.
Crucible Knights are singlehandedly the coolest on Elden ring, second is carian knights
Here since the beginning!
*walks off ledge and then challenges knight*
Me: “write that down”
Never found the second crucible in farum azula
lol my first crucible knight was in the castle where you meet up for the radahn festival. He was with one of those lion chimeras and I couldn’t do the radahn fight until I beat them /:
That quality intelligence build is insane. Lvl 200 looks fun asf.
We need a Crucible Knight Duo Spirit Summon. They could make it a reward for a Crucible Knight Trio DLC Boss Fight 💀
If d the slayer found godwins body and took the hallowbrand, and rogier knew about D’s brother. You must put together that all three of them went through that path but for some reason the beholder lost his sanity, armor, and his dagger became very weathered. Makes you think what did D behold
i dont think those think those things are all nececarrily true. Beholder D got out of the deeproot depts somehow, so he could have just given beholder d the hallowbrand at the aqueduct who could have just mentioned his brother to rogier when they were traveling together.
8:54. i'm pretty sure that's not just a random minor erdtree. i think it's what is left of the Greattree
Great video as always amazing Elden Ring lore channel
Finally you found the last Knight in Farum azula I don't know if it was me coz I made a comment back then about where to find him in Farum and you replied but stiil it took you some time but you got him 😁
Keep up the good work mate 👌
Wow my name was there looks like you heard me 👍
Totally. We tried to tag you so you'd be alerted but for some reason it didn't work.
@@square-table-gaming It's OK mate glad I could help keep doing what your doing you make videos better and better every day
Me coming back here after finding one crucible knight at rauh ruins:
Very interesting that it's a hammer knight! Definitely going to get into that.
Hmm.
This is a crazy thought.
But what if those aspects of the crucible the knights use are derived from existing creatures born of the crucible (The wings, horns, tail and throat pouch)? Maybe we'll fight them in the land of shadows.
Here after getting my wings
Just imagine, if there were ten thousand Crucible Knights?
the ancient power...
The Ordovii and Selurii were also two britonic/celtic tribes in pre-Roman Britannia.
Farum Azula is out of time so it's fuzzy. Hence why Maliketh and the Beast Clergyman can exist at separate locations despite being the same person.
Crucible knights are my favorite enemies in This Game The Minute I died fighting Two
Hmm, one type of them are trees and the other type are axes, this is odd as axes are used to chop trees
I brought this game when it first came out and died so much I hated it! Stopped playing for about 5 months. Then picked it back up and now I have 238 hours in and level 206. Hands down my favorite game ever!
PLease please please keep the volume of background music low.
It seems the crucible is frenzy flame and the greater will being one creating and destroying life and there color is Tin gold then they split creating the two and three finger
14:26 Funny Thing Zullie the Witch found out Tanith's knight is named Ordovis in The network test and has unused NPC name Guilbert Questline that seek to kill Traitor Crucible Knight .
// Poor Guy get name steal by Duo Guys in Catacombs 😥
I can't help but wonder if there isn't something to them being Tree and Axe seeing as tree's are cut by axe or maybe Tree came before Axe it does make my mind ponder
best enemy