To any Taiwanese people who disagree with the video; you are entitled to your opinion, and I am not in any way trying to portray the Taiwanese in a bad light. I merely don't agree with the tactics the Taiwanese media has used against CJay, I hope you understand and don't take any jokes in the video too serious! Have a great day.
I can see where the arguments arise from and altho I personally do not know the whole story, I do believe there are lessons to be learnt from both sides. Taiwanese people may have taken CJ's behavior out of proportion. However, that's not to say what CJ did in Taiwan can be justified because there are things you just don't do in certain places for your own image's sake. For example, if you are a woman traveling in middle east countries, and your wear revealing clothes in public like how you are back in the states, how would the local people think of you? Going to a foreign place without acknowledging its own culture, (such as sticking chopsticks on a soil and think its funny) may not be defined as being racist, but rather stupid. Sure, CJ's punishment may not seem to fit his crime, but it's the ignorant attitude he showed at the first place that got him where he is at now. I think he should hold himself responsible for everything he did. He is a grown man. BTW, if this channel really takes CJ's innocence seriously and wants to make the argument seem more righteous, the ending of the video wouldn't be about mocking the asian stereotypes.
Excuse me but you must have gotten the wrong comment section. This is RUclips, you're not supposed to make educated well written and thought out comments. On a serious note, I agree with you. Whilst it is not appropriate to retaliate in this manner, I personally think I would also be pissed at that kind of behaviour, but then again I think I am not anymore of age to understand live streaming. This does seem like a watered-down version of Jake Paul. And I would find it very hard to believe that there hasn't been any form of retaliation from his fans' side. Everyone is a dick on the internet.
Rawland Bogan wouldn't mocking Asian stereotype be a good thing? seeing how stereotype are not true, right? so you support China take over of Taiwan? lol.
I wish people would stop making trouble for themselves and just be on their best behavior...especially in foreign environments. Is it fame that makes people do these things? Idk but damn if I go to a foreign country I'm always going to be on my best behavior.
And can any of you say with certainty that you have never done something like this? Yes, he was careless but he obviously had no evil intentions yet people treat him like he's the trash of the earth.
Mr. Clymate Fame? That's obviously not what he cares about, he streams because he loves taiwan and its people. Just saying he should just be on his best behavior is an easy thing to say because you're not in his shoes. And he doesn't want to make trouble, you can see from his interactions that he's very polite to those he speaks to even if they're harassing him, he doesn't single anyone out and listens to their reasons yet they don't give a minute for him to defend himself.
I'm happy you two liked those playthroughs! I'm doing just fine. RUclips is my fulltime job, I still do a video a day minimum. Going for my Twitch partnership this month!
To anyone else reading this thread, please just ignore Ridvan. We all see the thousand problems with what he said, it's probably just bait. And even if it isn't bait, would he seriously listen to us? Let's just focus on support for CJ. His GoFundMe is linked in the description of this video.
She didn't want to be involved in the shitstorm that CJ is in. It's a really shitty thing to throw your friends under the bus, but it's really obvious why she did it.
My favorite anime since seeing it on adult swim when i was a young and confused kid. a couple of the songs on my channel have various FLCL clips/gifs over them. the show is a bizarre fountain of inspiration.
Glink I have no idea why u want to defense for such a guy who insults my country, film it and upload it even. ruclips.net/video/vx1Qsy-1owg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/3MynBE2nc0E/видео.html
I, a whiny 15 years old native Taiwanese want to apologize on the behalf of our people's and medias' actions. These detrimental actions really ruin our country's international reputation.
lol u trippin 博淳... this video stats facts and what you've said literally sounded like you commented before finish watching the whole thing. should you just listen to your own ludicrous opinions and just go take a chill pill or some.. this must not be the first time you're trying to hate somebody aren't ya
Taiwanese here. The poster in the video is from a Taiwanese movie about native Taiwanese fight against Japanese during colonial time. Some one photoshoped the face onto it.
Glink your videos are excellent and I am glad you put so much work into them. You are one of the few creators that make videos I avidly await to enjoy. When I see them pop up in my feed they take priority over the majority because the amount of passion you have is amazing and it really shows.
This is disgusting. People who even admit they don't know what he did wrong think he should be punished. He's even apologized TWICE and it seems they still slander him. Hey Taiwan IF THE WORST PERSON IN YOUR COUNTRY IS SOMEONE WHO LITTERED TWICE YOURE LIVING FINE AND NEED TO CHILL
His crime was littering? How many times have traveled between Zhonghe district, old/new Beitou, new/old Taipei city, the riverside parks, and seen people litter, leaving cigarette butts, food wrappers, etc. trash in the streets, even in the parks? I've been going back home constantly for my entire life to see my family and have always seen people litter on the streets, whether it be as small as a cig butt or up to a drink cup.Too many times man. How many storefronts have I walked by and smelled the gutters nearby with nasty shit draining and trash in it? Too many times. He seriously got ostracized for a cup? Are the citizens really doing the "holier-than-thou" thing because he's a foreigner? Fuck dude.
@Deadpoppin I've been there plenty and seen plenty of trash lol, even people littering. I know what it's like. It's not NYC level, but still has an issue. Can't really call someone out without checking yourself first
This was a VERY great video you worked on. I have the utmost respect for you for doing this and CJay for holding his ground. I met CJay when I visited Taiwan. I went through a down time on Twitch myself for a mistake I made and CJay welcomed me with open arms. His kind heart helped me out and I am extremely thankful for him. Bad things happen to strong men but strong men can get through bad things.
tyler Not all are shitty. You gotta know where to work at. I used to work for one then moved to two better paying schools. These days, if you have a skill you can do work online and make as much, if not more, than a teacher. Thing is, you gotta put in work.
But it's still a part-time job that won't really go anywhere. It's like a lease for your stay in south korea. I bet you can also just work in the states or in europe at an entry level job with chance to advance. You are essentially taking a pause in your whole life, what do you gain when you come back home? You will be exactly at the same spot you were from where you left. The only reason I can think of to do that, is if you're feeling a bit down in the country you're in, and want to seek some new confidence in Asia.
I usually don't even know who the people you're talking about are, but the way you present your argument and your video structure is very entertaining. Been subbed for a few months now, keep up the good work man.
please tell us how you think he's biased? or are you one of those "WAHH HE THINKS DIFFERENTLY THAN ME, HEEESSS BIAASSSSEEDDDDD" (folds arms and pouts like a petulant fuckface)
He isn't biased unless it comes to people that hurt or kill children - but then again if you are a-okay with anybody raping or killing other people you are not right in your head. Otherwise he is neutral on most things and he did help small channels before, he just needs to learn about this.
Had to reupload due to copyright music on the first video. My full interview with CJayRide can be found on my alternate channel: ruclips.net/video/pArCikmYaaM/видео.html thanks for all the support, and a huge shoutout to all my patrons!
So... your saying a foreigner can just up and avoid social tenants core to a society, not research ahead of the time, and refuse to assimilate to cultural standards? Don't we accuse Mexicans for not assimilating to the English language rapidly enough which creates distress when they gain service positions or interact with American citizens when attempting to say get a resume or trade goods? I agree that the doxxing and harassment are horrible retaliations. But assuming western cultural standards are THE SAME as eastern cultural standards and acting as such, is pretty arrogant. I think people should do their best to respect their host nation. Crazy thought, maybe research ahead of time what social interactions would be considered too crass for public viewing audiences. I would if I were an Indian traveling to Texas let's say.
After watching this, the venezuelan runescapers and the coin mining in browser videos - I have subscribed. The way you investigate your content and create it in an engaging manner that brings awareness - brilliant. I hope your channel continues to grow!
I would like to speak on behalf of the chinese community in the Philippines. We are not all like this, the people who bring this embarrassing behavior with them are a different type of chinese coming directly from mainland china (we dont like them either) The chinese community here is well adjusted and have been living here for generations albeit we are very conservative and most of us are not allowed to marry people with pure filipino blood.
What's funny to me is that they make a huge deal out of CJ poking a stick into the ground and throwing a fish ball into a bush, meanwhile if you actually watch his streams you can see trash in the streets and dog shit always on footpaths. It's disturbing the way some of the Taiwanese netizens have handled themselves online because a foreigner has 'disrespected their culture'. In nearly every one of CJ's streams he always runs into nice locals who are willing to chat with him, he takes us to different locations and we get to see different temples, see him try different cuisine and he shows us how nice Taiwanese people are. The netizens do a disservice to their country and put people off visiting there. It's bizarre how any of this insignificant shit makes it into mainstream news there. Great video, Glink.
Greasy Granpapy yes littering is bad and you should never do it, yes he was disrespecting their clean streets culture. It’s not that he didn’t do anything bad, it’s the fact that this insignificant thing made it to the news. This is just another example of absolute shit being shoveled into the mouths of the populace by the mainstream media. And the US I’d just as bad, albeit on a more low key level
MysticalHippo Still... He is a guest in their country and he openly broadcasted himself disrespecting their laws... I admit, I have personal biases against litter bugs.
How do I say it honestly == as someone who truly lived in taiwan for a long time and understands a bunch about it's culture... 1. Logan Paul effect: Japan has very damn deep ties with Taiwan(15-30% are decendants of japanese, like two cheeks of the same butt) Guess who got national news when that happened... Taiwan has a tabloid based news center since there isn't much happening nationally on the island, so you have a magnifying glass effect. 2. Taiwan's history with (bad) tourist: a lot of absolute stuck up rich Assholes are famed with killing a native by drunk driving, sexual assaulting a native, then abusing the UN/China/Taiwan debacle to escape from punishment. For an example there was recently also a perverted(Canadian) tourist who sexually assaulted two women recently, who was a repeated offender of 3 instances... 3: family values: To say that Taiwanese women are EZ... that's like saying your Mother/Sister/grandmother/great grandmother is a slut and can be thrown aside like tissue paper. Note that many of these people are descendant of people & women who had to survive the horrors of ww2 & civil war and back. So imagine how easy it is to upset everyone, especially when a said youtuber encourages foriegners to go to taiwan for said reason... 4.He is literally at their doorstep... Almost every Taiwanese is has at least one relative in all the major cities since it's so compact. 5: culture: there is a very old cultural center in the Taiwanese populace that takes deep offence to few things: chopsticks stuck pointing upwards(symbolizes death/cursing someone), never let anyone work on the fourth floor(4 rhymes with death/bad omens), lastly do not desecrate/insult/bother the dead(now relate that to number 1 & 3).
@Viper 47 Can you please provide me with 1 piece of real proof of CJ saying anything demeaning, all I'm asking for is just 1 piece. Cause I know your dumbass won't be able to find one, your culture is a joke.
I don't think youtubes view bot can go through 20 min videos. I've made a 3 and 10 minute video with the same song, but only the 3 minute one got hit with a strike. It's anecdotal evidence, but I am pretty sure my assumption is right.
Welp, guess who's NEVER going to Taiwan? It WAS 3rd on my list of places to visit. Thanks for letting us hear CJ's side of things. List for those interested: Russia Norway ̶t̶a̶i̶w̶a̶n̶
its your loss. Did anyone think why CJ? i mean. there are so many foringers in taiwan. why only him? No. because u just want a reason to hate a country u never arrive, and defend a person who doesnt know how to spell RESPECT.
When he sticks the "chopstick" into the dirt the chinese sustitles state that apparently he expresses that it is taiwanese culture to stick things in the dirt like that, which can be seen as disrespectful as incense is usually placed similarly to pay respect. If he didn't make such a comment it would be less offensive and could be written off as ignorance...
he didn't say that though, the media only ever lies about him. Taiwanese media in general is extremely corrupt and the population is relatively uninformed over most things because their lies go unquestioned.
@@iennalwang2078 I've seen tons of cigarettes littered throughout the streets. I've seen men spitting on to the ground. I've seen juice cartons thrown around everywhere. I smell intoxicating car smoke immediately when I head out to anywhere. Idk why y'all would manhunt a guy that did the same exact thing other Taiwanese men had done before. Idk how to explain this besides stigmas, xenophobia, and huge misunderstandings. It's honestly sickening.
Loyola_X_Kishi Maybe somewhere there are these people you mentioned. But they don’t record their behavior and upload to the internet. So people won’t know who did these and can’t judge these people’ behavior. However, if someone be too stupid to do this, upload their dishonest behavior, he will get what he deserved.
@@iennalwang2078 He deserves a manhunt? Jesus... Littering should be a slap on the wrist, not stalking and threatening. Idk what your point is, but if it is to be inhumanly cruel to a childish mistake, I don't even know anymore.
These allegations really sound like they were taken from a low budget comedy show or a comic book. I'm actually baffled that media takes twitch chat as evidence that he would be a bad guy and judge him. This was hilarious asf.
SurgeX798 I mean I probably wouldn't like the guy if I was Taiwanese, but getting things to extremes like doxxing, life threats and so on is kinda way worse
No, they really didn't. Anyone offended by this is simply looking for an excuse to be racist, just like all those Taiwanese people in the CJ hate group.
well i mean the indian guy is going to shit in the street atleast once before someone tells him its wrong, then its up to him to understand not to do it again.
This is my first profile piece video I saw from you Glink, and I must say this is awesome. I'm about to binge every other video you've done like this, please continue making these videos, they are awesome man!
I just want to tell you i really like your videos. All the time and effort you put into them and the way you share it with us makes them really interesting and enjoyable to watch. Thanks for making these videos and keep up the good job!
Hey I just found this video through your OWL video, very informative video, I like it a lot. I am from Taiwan, even though I've never heard of this news before, it happened when I was on vacation so maybe I missed it. This is actually ridiculous, sure he did do stuff like throwing litter and stuff, but it's not really a great deal. Taiwanese people do it , alot actually that's why some parts of Taiwan are quiet messy just like America and Europe. And the EZ thing is just stupid, yeah I know not a lot of Taiwanese people watch English streams, so they might not know about the memes and stuff, but to take all off these shit completely out of context, it really makes me sad. I know the media is crap just like every other country (look at OWL), but the way my people reacted is actually so embarrasing. Nothing typed in twitch chat should be taken seriously, people say whatever they want because it's the internet, they think they are safe from others. I've seen some Taiwanese chats say some fucked up shit that would definitely piss people from other countries off. This happens because of the language barrier and the cultural differences, and the media would always do whatever to get views, I really don't get why people take them seriously anymore, I personally watch them for shits and giggles.TBF tho if the countries have reversed, the western media would probably have done the same, and the people there might end up calling us racist. But in this case the fault is definitely on us, and I'm really sorry that my people did this. I don't know if cj streams anymore I'm going to try and reach out to him and tell him not all Taiwanese people are peices of shits. And I hope he can still find the beauty in our country. EZ Clap
It’s not very difficult to see why people get enraged at groups of people, especially when a vocal group of them are so retarded. Yikes I hate generalisations so much but a lot don’t help the case
They're complaining about a little bit of littering but how about they deal with their overpopulation,exploitation of women and children,and their plethora of other problems first.
@Viper 47 yo dude I get the fact that you love taiwan and all, but ya'll really gotta calm down.The guy just littered in the street cus no trash cans were there, thats just something we've all done at least one time in our lives but last I checked we didnt get harassed or have an entire mob send death threats to us or anything like that now did we?
@@randyadkins130 last I checked taiwan doesnt have the same exploitation levels as china.Those guys complaining about the women are just insecure as hell
hoherspatz Except "Taiwan" isn't actually a country. It's a Chinese colony who plays at being independent but is sure to not proclaim this too loudly in case the Chinese get fed up with the charade...
張J Does the USA call itself "Republic of England" and shit itself whenever real England does military exercises? The difference between The USA and Chinese Taipei is that England won't ever get The US back...
Yeah his littering isn't justified, but to make those things national news feels like they wanted to take him out and were just waiting for a reason to.
wow I remember watching this on the news when it happened. I didn't pay much attention to it until similar stories were popping up on the taiwanese version of reddit, making the same accusations and recounting almost every little thing he did in his streaming career. As an english speaker whose somewhat familiar with streaming culture I can see now that these accusations are completely out of context, but for locals who mostly don't speak english it's hard to discern especially when the news reports misinterpret (not sure if intentional or just can't comprehend) while providing fabricated source and evidence. but tbh cjay was a scapegoat for a greater underlying animosity that most taiwanese have toward foreign males, mostly due to a rather intense fascination that a large number of taiwanese girls have toward foreigners, which I found also occurs in other asian countries but at a lesser degree. This is truly sad to watch and I hope things work out for him, taiwanese are generally really friendly and if reports like this gets out things can really change for the better for him and the twisted foreign hating culture. I don't follow many taiwanese youtubers but I know there are many that are fluent in english and do investigative reports. I'll try to reach out the best I can with this video. thanks for the great interview and report!
as an Taiwanese who followed the whole CJ drama from start to now, you do realize this is basically an whole culture's majority at its display, blind patriotism in Taiwan is rampant, and news media already cross the red line on when to "stop" to a point of no return, and CJayRide is just plays a little part of this cultural issue, and you have to also acknowledge that *Majority* of population here are either at [Not capable of read/speak english] to [All out dislikes the value in western world]. Which will cause more insane amount of communicating problem between Western world and Taiwan. and the moral value from western world will probably never be accept nor taken seriously in Taiwan. and the Local opinion will always be consider the first in the future as usual. That's a really serious Cultural difference, and it wont changes it over night nor in years, nor in century. Also you get most of the information wrong in video so, lets wait for shitstorm comes.
Mind elaborating on what facts were taken wrong? This is America not China. We'll actually listen to your side of the story without trying to ruin your life and career.
Hey Glink, As a Singaporean subscriber, I think I can offer some form of explanation, being exposed to Chinese culture and Western media channels my whole life. I'm born Chinese, but speak both English and Mandarin from a young age. Littering instances: Places like Japan, Taiwan and Singapore take public cleanliness very seriously. Japanese people keep trash in their own bag until they find a bin and second-time littering offenders in Singapore have to do public cleaning for a few hours. Seeing him flagrantly toss the fish ball in the bush and stick the foodstick in the soil irked me. It was quite disrespectful and I understand this might sound crazy to you, but hey, different country = different culture right? CJayRide's first apology: I think it is safe to say that his apology did not seem sincere, especially after comparing it to his most recent apology. This may have worsened things. However, I applaud and appreciate his action of actively picking up litter later on. I think that deserved him forgiveness, at the very least. Bella (and Asian girls with white men): First of all, Bella is a two-faced bitch that just victimized herself. Aside from her, I do hear some Asian women complain about Asian men and how they prefer white males. I admit, white males are generally better looking, have better physiques/height and are more eloquent, which might cause a inferiority complex amongst Asian men. I think this is definitely one of the main causes for the "brigading" but by no means a justifiable one. Just want to give you some background/explanation. Taiwanese news portals and hate groups: Like many tabloids and fake news articles, they will spread any form of vitriol for views and clicks. Likewise for the hate groups, we can all agree the Internet is really a double-edged sword and groups like /r/fatpeoplehate find so much ease to grow. I think fake news, xenophobia and hate groups are being experienced in a lot of developed countries, with Taiwan being one of them. My opinion of CJayRide: Honestly, his disrespect for public cleanliness and not-so-sincere first apology really got him on the wrong foot with me, so I won't be watching his content. However, I genuinely feel sorry for the guy who moved halfway across the globe to embrace another country's culture and people, only for the same (albeit bigger group) to hate on him with much misinformation. Really unlucky. My thoughts on this video: I feel like you might be downplaying his blatant littering actions in the first part of his video. Rest of the video, you approached it in your reliably factual fashion. However, your "China Number One!" skit at the end rubbed me the wrong way. It felt quite racist and uncalled for. It doesn't help the case for white people being respectful/not racist. I really hope you won't do something similar in the future. I'm still a subscriber and look forward to more of your content in the future.
Bryan Xie thank you for taking the time to respond and write out your detailed thoughts. I don't have too much to add, but I do think, as you said the littering thing was made up for with the apology and charity streams. As far as the ending joke goes, sorry if it was offense. I enjoy racial humor and this didn't seem to be crossing a line that most comedians would get backlash for. I was stereotyping Chinese people, but I myself find it funny when people do the same for my culture, infact I joke about it myself all the time. I know my humor (or lack thereof) wont always bode well with everyone, but that's not a goal I think is attainable if you want to put yourself and your style out there. I will take what you said into account though.
Perhaps the context of the video was setting a very uneasy tone between different races, so the joke might not land in good taste. Otherwise a very good video. Thank you for responding my reply :)
Bryan Xie so Taiwanese people never litter? I find that pretty hard to believe... also chopsticks are made of wood by the way. You know, that shit that grows on trees. He’s putting it back where it belongs.
The littering warranted a 15 usd fine. I'm pretty sure every person on earth has, at some point, littered in his life. How pathetic must someone's own life be to start a witch hunt over that?
This is not even close to the type of content I watch, but I appreciate the effort and work you put into making these videos. Also your voice is amazing. Thank you for a great video man
Yeah, that's what I learned from SerpentZA's/Winston's videos about China in general. People there can be cool, but it's not difficult for mob mentality to occur, especially with "us vs. the outsiders". Even he, purely making informative videos about a foreigner's living China without sugarcoating anything, had some people go after him for supposedly hating the country.
Good to know that Glink is praising cjayride as a respectful, kind and wholesome person (18:35-18:41). I sincerely hope that there exists an instrument to inspect the truth value of a statement. (Please do not mention that polygraph exists. I am talking about an instrument with 100% effectiveness/reliability.)
Stuck a chopsticks like that is quite offensive in the asian culture. It means wishing one's death. I was taught that from a young age from both my chinese and japanese family
well lets just say ignorance is bliss. i hope he can just look through the hates and continue doing his things because once these hates sparked by some nationalism shits its really hard to put down. i dont know none of these people on the video. but i have a lot of experiences with chinese and taiwanese(they're the same people ethnically and mentally). so i can only imagine they're doing it to cjayride is purely based on the we vs them(white men) mentally that sparked by that tattooed taiwanese guy. they are very overly critical toward the foreigners, some of them just waiting there with their pitchforks, waiting for the foreigners fuckups and ready to attack. and that belle girl or whoever is pressured to stand on their side because the taiwanese media was painting her as this "white meat craving girl", so she had to stand with the taiwanese and tell lies that how cjayride was taking sexual advantages of her if she want to continuing living in taiwan without getting harass daily like cjayride does.
I feel like asian countries in general are kinda weird about that shit though. In Japan I was using a vaporizer and was actually ~kindly~ pulled aside by the local authorities and handed a little tissue-pamphlet-map combo asking me to please not smoke on the streets. You can't even eat and walk without shame-glaring because you might litter their uh... Concrete.. And god forbid you jaywalk. Again, not nearly as aggressive, but the fear of the looks was more than enough. I understood that just as a guest there for a few days, if you live in a country that strict then you should really know better. Not to say any of the backlash then was warranted but c'mon bud... You knew you were doin a no-no.
@Glink and you might want to re-check your translation source. What binge said at 13:52 was "I have one thing to tell you, Taiwan people are 'very polite', please don't hit me, bye bye."
Yet still people defending Taiwan in the comments. The only excuse being that one can will destroy their environment mixed with awhole lot of blind patriotism. Yeah thats really rational, even after the guy apologizes several times.
Glink, i love your chanel, your bring the most of your videos and you are a journalist pioneering what needs to be heard to help others, bless your soul
Here's the key things I got out of this video... 1) First thing being that money truly does run everything, the media chose to push real hate towards an innocent man for the sake of views and monetary gain. That's why CJs twitch "friends" said nothing and chose to ignore it as they didn't want to lose their channels, to them their channel is more important than someone's life. 2) People can switch on you like a dime when things turn south, bitch I mean Bella saw things were going south and chose to blatantly lie to avoid any further confrontation. Everyone was all buddy buddy at first and then turned into enemies. 3) Never take anything for granted Side note, seeing this video made me genuinely upset with Taiwanese people. Even when looking through their perspective, they're still the evil ones. As they view CJ as some American nationalist who thinks their culture sucks and women are easy to get. Does that justify trying to murder him over allegations like that? I find it extremely hard to believe that they're more friendly there than people here in the US and they want to murder you and give you AIDS over that. To make matters worse is when CJ questions them on what bad things he's said and they have no answer to give, but say "I'm too busy". How busy are you that you can casually walk through a park and go out of YOUR way to confront someone else? Makes me very upset to see someone so wholesome done wrong by society for no other reason other than to have controversy for $$$...
It also makes them no better than Mainland China in that regard, which is a huge deal for people that live in a democracy. Everyday the Chinese Communist Party comes up with a new scheme to take over the world and Taiwan is almost always the intended victim. If the Taiwanese people can be mislead by their media to pick on a foreigner who wanted to promote the country and committed the heinous crime of not picking up after himself and also doing something stupid, but relatively harmless at the end of the day, imagine what will happen if China manages to get those outlets to spew out pro-CCP propaganda. Goodbye Taiwan and goodbye living proof of the possibility of democracy for the Han Chinese.
hal900x sticking incense sticks in rice means that the rice is for the spirits, and it is extremely rude when you say sticking an used chopstick in dirt is a kind of Taiwanese culture just because you want to litter.
poortaiwanese If all cultures in east Asia come from mainland China , then we can say all American cultures come from England. And it's better to say that all cultures come from Africa cuz there was where human originated.
poortaiwanese all races in east Asia came from mainland China=all cultures in east Asia came from mainland China If the logic above is right then it's fine to say all cultures came from Africa cuz all races came from Africa
Shit as a Taiwanese American I can definitely agree with the overreactive media, gang-up hate mob culture (as do many Asian and other predominantly monoethnic countries), but it’s not hard to see that there’s also some inaccurate reporting from Glink’s side with mistranslation, misunderstanding culture (the chopstick in mud situation & Chinese internet slang, just to name a few). Now this is my first time on this story and I’m not on the IRL section of twitch much but overall, my impression just watching from this whole report on CJ is a shit ton of misunderstanding from both sides that kind of incited this situation. I’ve enjoyed glink’s content so far but let’s be honest here: nonpartisan reporting hardly ever exists. In my opinion glink could’ve used more sources (majority of his source was cj’s words) and perhaps a bit more of everything. It would be hard but that’s the standard we need. I guess the main point I learned from this is TLDR, it’s hard to say that there isn’t any kind of news reporting that doesn’t have bias to skew a viewer’s opinion on a subject matter, so it’s important to USE AS MANY RESOURCES TO CROSSCHECK YOUR FACTS AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. Sorry for the long message on my perspective.
No, over-reactive media and gang-up hate mob culture to this degree is not the norm in many other Asian or other mono-ethnic countries. This is a ridiculous aspect of Han Chinese culture. The fact that you can draw parallels between mainland China and Taiwan in regards to vicious foreigner witch hunts (or literally hunting down foreigners in mainland China) is sad and pathetic.
As a half Taiwanese half German I would like to give my perspective to CJ’s whole situation and your report about it. Please note that I haven’t read more into this situation, so I’m basing all my opinions on your report alone. The littering incident: To be honest, I think the public outcry over CJ’s littering is justified. He isn’t just littering, he is broadcasting the act of littering to a big online audience while, in a sense, promoting tourism in Taiwan. With an audience like that he needs to think about his platform and himself as a role model. We live in an age where a tweet could get you fired, so a public reaction like that doesn’t surprise me, especially in the context of the taiwanese media, that likes to gossip and sensationalize things. I do think he responded very well to the situation, doing a charity stream where he picks up litter and donates the stream profits. The Spa incident: Here I agree that the taiwanese people promoting and participating in the hate speech and hate rallies against him acted intolerably and unjustified. It’s a total overreaction and unacceptable. I think some language misunderstandings also fueled the situation (you showed a clip of Ck watching a video where (I assume) CJ asks for support dealing with racist taiwanese people, Ck then asks, “is he insulting Taiwan?”. Also, it may be strange to western people, but in Chinese speaking countries, people like to abbreviate words with similar sounding numbers. So, while it may seem like a conspiracy and “codes” to you, it’s just common practice in Asia. Though I don’t know how the numbers for “CJ” and “idiot” were derived). Now to your report of the whole case: 1. For the littering incident, I feel like your editing and way of portrayal shows a clear bias toward CJ and dismisses the bigger picture of him littering on stream. While I understand why it may seem like a small insignificant act to you, I think you undersold the situation. 2. Just a bit that seemed unclear to me: In the segment about “EZ” and the pepe, it is unclear to me whether the twitch chat started using the EZ emote before Jakenbakes “easy” remark or if the emote was just a result of it. You seem to present it like it was the first case. 3. Lastly my biggest criticism: About your “China no. one” remark at the end. Endorsing a state that is basically an international bully and doesn’t give a shit about human rights out of spite just because you hope to offend a specific group of taiwanese people is simply put: immature. (To clarify: I have nothing against chinese people, merely China's government and political stance.)
G0hrx idk man, China might be an international bully but Taiwan is definitely showcasing how they can bully too by what they've done to CJ so far, with the death threats and all. China might be number one in terms of bullying, but Taiwan isn't far behind it seems, maybe number 4.
d da I totally agree, the behavior concerning the second incident is unjust and wrong. But my criticism is that Glink drags China into the discussion for seemingly no other reason than to try and piss off a certain group of Taiwanese people. Which is in my opinion an unreasonable thing to do considering China's political stance. China wasn't a part of the discussion before he made his remark. Taiwanese independence is a matter that is important to me. If Glink were to make a video about the political situation of China and Taiwan and would show a different political opinion I would respect that. It's just the circumstances of his remark that makes it look petty. Maybe I'm overreacting here, but to me, anytime China and Taiwan come up in a discussion it always gets a political connotation.
Some Taiwanese men don't like seeing Taiwanese women with white men, that concisely explains the backlash from the spa incident. I believe the 'EZ' controversy was just an excuse for some netizens to brigade against the evil foreigners that are taking their women away. It's why they've rallied around CK, the juicehead that totally isn't compensating for a bruised ego or inferiority complex. As for the littering, I agree with you entirely, it was quite disrespectful.
Dude was that a Chrono Cross or Chrono Trigger song you played at the end? Not the kung-fu fighting song for the outro but the one before that which concludes CJ's story.
To any Taiwanese people who disagree with the video; you are entitled to your opinion, and I am not in any way trying to portray the Taiwanese in a bad light. I merely don't agree with the tactics the Taiwanese media has used against CJay, I hope you understand and don't take any jokes in the video too serious! Have a great day.
I can see where the arguments arise from and altho I personally do not know the whole story, I do believe there are lessons to be learnt from both sides.
Taiwanese people may have taken CJ's behavior out of proportion. However, that's not to say what CJ did in Taiwan can be justified because there are things you just don't do in certain places for your own image's sake.
For example, if you are a woman traveling in middle east countries, and your wear revealing clothes in public like how you are back in the states, how would the local people think of you?
Going to a foreign place without acknowledging its own culture, (such as sticking chopsticks on a soil and think its funny) may not be defined as being racist, but rather stupid.
Sure, CJ's punishment may not seem to fit his crime, but it's the ignorant attitude he showed at the first place that got him where he is at now. I think he should hold himself responsible for everything he did. He is a grown man.
BTW, if this channel really takes CJ's innocence seriously and wants to make the argument seem more righteous, the ending of the video wouldn't be about mocking the asian stereotypes.
Excuse me but you must have gotten the wrong comment section. This is RUclips, you're not supposed to make educated well written and thought out comments.
On a serious note, I agree with you. Whilst it is not appropriate to retaliate in this manner, I personally think I would also be pissed at that kind of behaviour, but then again I think I am not anymore of age to understand live streaming.
This does seem like a watered-down version of Jake Paul.
And I would find it very hard to believe that there hasn't been any form of retaliation from his fans' side. Everyone is a dick on the internet.
Rawland Bogan what a stupid example, dumbass. your comment is invalid for using such a extreme example.
Rawland Bogan cj clearly know about Taiwan culture or other Asian cultures. he speaks Chinese.
Rawland Bogan wouldn't mocking Asian stereotype be a good thing? seeing how stereotype are not true, right? so you support China take over of Taiwan? lol.
All ya had to do, was not litter by the damn train, CJ
Mission Failed
I wish people would stop making trouble for themselves and just be on their best behavior...especially in foreign environments. Is it fame that makes people do these things? Idk but damn if I go to a foreign country I'm always going to be on my best behavior.
He also flew a drone in a restricted area and mocked the Taiwanese news.
And can any of you say with certainty that you have never done something like this? Yes, he was careless but he obviously had no evil intentions yet people treat him like he's the trash of the earth.
Mr. Clymate
Fame? That's obviously not what he cares about, he streams because he loves taiwan and its people. Just saying he should just be on his best behavior is an easy thing to say because you're not in his shoes. And he doesn't want to make trouble, you can see from his interactions that he's very polite to those he speaks to even if they're harassing him, he doesn't single anyone out and listens to their reasons yet they don't give a minute for him to defend himself.
I'm really happy to see someone really publicly defending CJ. He deserves it.
Holy shit I watched your 007 Nightfire playthrough like 3-4 years ago. Goddamn that shit was comfy. 10/10
And I watched the DBZ: Chou saiya densetsu LP a ton of years ago. Hope you're doing well nowadays bro
I'm happy you two liked those playthroughs! I'm doing just fine. RUclips is my fulltime job, I still do a video a day minimum. Going for my Twitch partnership this month!
To anyone else reading this thread, please just ignore Ridvan. We all see the thousand problems with what he said, it's probably just bait. And even if it isn't bait, would he seriously listen to us? Let's just focus on support for CJ. His GoFundMe is linked in the description of this video.
ill listen ..
Wow Bella's a real piece of work huh?
MabiNerd She looks directly at the camera and states she didnt know she was being filmed XD
She didn't want to be involved in the shitstorm that CJ is in. It's a really shitty thing to throw your friends under the bus, but it's really obvious why she did it.
EZ
yeah but people are believing what she said while it is clearly not true
Jarekx2007 LMAO I guess she is a EZ girl 😂😂
Always an entertaining and informative watch. Great video. (...China #1!)
Nerd City you're awesome too x
I love both of you guys Glink and Nerd City
holy shit nerd city
Fuck China. It's even worse than Taiwan
It seems the youtube community is closer than I thought.
"It's hard to know where the lies end, and the truth begins."
god bless u glink for your FLCL references
glad someone caught it
My favorite anime since seeing it on adult swim when i was a young and confused kid. a couple of the songs on my channel have various FLCL clips/gifs over them. the show is a bizarre fountain of inspiration.
"People choose the facts they want now." - Newsroom
Glink I have no idea why u want to defense for such a guy who insults my country, film it and upload it even.
ruclips.net/video/vx1Qsy-1owg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/3MynBE2nc0E/видео.html
Glink bless ya
I, a whiny 15 years old native Taiwanese want to apologize on the behalf of our people's and medias' actions.
These detrimental actions really ruin our country's international reputation.
Fake Taiwanese?
我沒有在冒充臺灣人。
Don't apologize dude, you're not at all responsible for the actions of other people. People are people and it's the media pushing things
這影片內容都在避重就輕 沒參考價值 說找出事情的真相 真可笑 那些對他不利的事情都不提 真的是真相?
lol u trippin 博淳... this video stats facts and what you've said literally sounded like you commented before finish watching the whole thing. should you just listen to your own ludicrous opinions and just go take a chill pill or some.. this must not be the first time you're trying to hate somebody aren't ya
Taiwanese here. The poster in the video is from a Taiwanese movie about native Taiwanese fight against Japanese during colonial time. Some one photoshoped the face onto it.
Shaun S That's interesting lol.
You're one of the few RUclipsrs I get excited about seeing post a new video can't wait to watch your come up over the next couple of years
Glink your videos are excellent and I am glad you put so much work into them. You are one of the few creators that make videos I avidly await to enjoy. When I see them pop up in my feed they take priority over the majority because the amount of passion you have is amazing and it really shows.
Kind of like how people on RUclips are afraid to speak out on Susan.
I’m not gay
@@NotGayBen sus af
Susan w deserves to face the wall
Taiwan Numba one!
omg yes
Welcome to the Republic of Taiwan better than the People's Republic of China
Taiwan needs a nuke in the ass.
It’s not Taiwan, it is the Republic of China.
Stop crying it was just a prank, what are you gay?
This is disgusting. People who even admit they don't know what he did wrong think he should be punished. He's even apologized TWICE and it seems they still slander him. Hey Taiwan IF THE WORST PERSON IN YOUR COUNTRY IS SOMEONE WHO LITTERED TWICE YOURE LIVING FINE AND NEED TO CHILL
@Asteroe stay mad
His crime was littering? How many times have traveled between Zhonghe district, old/new Beitou, new/old Taipei city, the riverside parks, and seen people litter, leaving cigarette butts, food wrappers, etc. trash in the streets, even in the parks? I've been going back home constantly for my entire life to see my family and have always seen people litter on the streets, whether it be as small as a cig butt or up to a drink cup.Too many times man. How many storefronts have I walked by and smelled the gutters nearby with nasty shit draining and trash in it? Too many times. He seriously got ostracized for a cup? Are the citizens really doing the "holier-than-thou" thing because he's a foreigner? Fuck dude.
@Deadpoppin I've been there plenty and seen plenty of trash lol, even people littering. I know what it's like. It's not NYC level, but still has an issue. Can't really call someone out without checking yourself first
@Deadpoppin You're really stupid lmao
@Deadpoppin
You must've been born on a highway, cause thats where most accidents happen.
you can make a black mirror episode out of this shit
This was a VERY great video you worked on.
I have the utmost respect for you for doing this and CJay for holding his ground. I met CJay when I visited Taiwan. I went through a down time on Twitch myself for a mistake I made and CJay welcomed me with open arms. His kind heart helped me out and I am extremely thankful for him.
Bad things happen to strong men but strong men can get through bad things.
What is the reason non-asians actually go to Korea for shitty bad paying English teaching jobs?
tyler Not all are shitty. You gotta know where to work at. I used to work for one then moved to two better paying schools. These days, if you have a skill you can do work online and make as much, if not more, than a teacher. Thing is, you gotta put in work.
But it's still a part-time job that won't really go anywhere. It's like a lease for your stay in south korea. I bet you can also just work in the states or in europe at an entry level job with chance to advance.
You are essentially taking a pause in your whole life, what do you gain when you come back home? You will be exactly at the same spot you were from where you left.
The only reason I can think of to do that, is if you're feeling a bit down in the country you're in, and want to seek some new confidence in Asia.
Americans should stay in their own country
Damn this thread went from 0-60 in like .2 seconds.
I usually don't even know who the people you're talking about are, but the way you present your argument and your video structure is very entertaining. Been subbed for a few months now, keep up the good work man.
Ruchy thanks m-morty
you should get philip defranco to do a piece on this. he might be down to help
That dude is a bias jerk only gonna get hated on himself
been watching him for almost a year and haven't really found bias? You have any videos that he has shown bias in?
Defranco is too famous and wealthy to care about underdogs.
please tell us how you think he's biased?
or are you one of those "WAHH HE THINKS DIFFERENTLY THAN ME, HEEESSS BIAASSSSEEDDDDD" (folds arms and pouts like a petulant fuckface)
He isn't biased unless it comes to people that hurt or kill children - but then again if you are a-okay with anybody raping or killing other people you are not right in your head. Otherwise he is neutral on most things and he did help small channels before, he just needs to learn about this.
This is so good! It's just so surreal and hilarious. I keep rewatching it.
Holy shit dude, I love your videos. Makes sense to see you here I suppose.
"I asked what kind of meat she did like, I am still awaiting a response"
lmao
Had to reupload due to copyright music on the first video. My full interview with CJayRide can be found on my alternate channel: ruclips.net/video/pArCikmYaaM/видео.html
thanks for all the support, and a huge shoutout to all my patrons!
Sweet video man. I didn't know much about the story before this since it seemed centered around Taiwan but this was a great overview.
You're profile pieces are some of the best commentary on RUclips
So... your saying a foreigner can just up and avoid social tenants core to a society, not research ahead of the time, and refuse to assimilate to cultural standards? Don't we accuse Mexicans for not assimilating to the English language rapidly enough which creates distress when they gain service positions or interact with American citizens when attempting to say get a resume or trade goods? I agree that the doxxing and harassment are horrible retaliations. But assuming western cultural standards are THE SAME as eastern cultural standards and acting as such, is pretty arrogant. I think people should do their best to respect their host nation. Crazy thought, maybe research ahead of time what social interactions would be considered too crass for public viewing audiences. I would if I were an Indian traveling to Texas let's say.
oof
Glink Why not post the interview on your main channel? Isn't the point of this video to spread CJ's story?
After watching this, the venezuelan runescapers and the coin mining in browser videos - I have subscribed. The way you investigate your content and create it in an engaging manner that brings awareness - brilliant. I hope your channel continues to grow!
EZ Clap
Nobody expects the Taiwanese Inquisition!
EZ
RapBattle
[EAZYOnEage]
weni Chang i hope china takes you guys back
J O Y C O N B O Y Z
+weni Chang
"CHINA NUMBA ONE!" "TAIWAN NUMBA TWO! A BIG FAT NUMBA TWO!"
I would like to speak on behalf of the chinese community in the Philippines. We are not all like this, the people who bring this embarrassing behavior with them are a different type of chinese coming directly from mainland china (we dont like them either) The chinese community here is well adjusted and have been living here for generations albeit we are very conservative and most of us are not allowed to marry people with pure filipino blood.
What's funny to me is that they make a huge deal out of CJ poking a stick into the ground and throwing a fish ball into a bush, meanwhile if you actually watch his streams you can see trash in the streets and dog shit always on footpaths. It's disturbing the way some of the Taiwanese netizens have handled themselves online because a foreigner has 'disrespected their culture'.
In nearly every one of CJ's streams he always runs into nice locals who are willing to chat with him, he takes us to different locations and we get to see different temples, see him try different cuisine and he shows us how nice Taiwanese people are. The netizens do a disservice to their country and put people off visiting there.
It's bizarre how any of this insignificant shit makes it into mainstream news there.
Great video, Glink.
Randy just because others litter doesn't mean he gets a free pass for streaming himself littering. It's a shitty thing to do.
Randy If everyone jump off the clif, should you jump too?
Greasy Granpapy yes littering is bad and you should never do it, yes he was disrespecting their clean streets culture. It’s not that he didn’t do anything bad, it’s the fact that this insignificant thing made it to the news. This is just another example of absolute shit being shoveled into the mouths of the populace by the mainstream media. And the US I’d just as bad, albeit on a more low key level
MysticalHippo Still... He is a guest in their country and he openly broadcasted himself disrespecting their laws... I admit, I have personal biases against litter bugs.
How do I say it honestly == as someone who truly lived in taiwan for a long time and understands a bunch about it's culture...
1. Logan Paul effect: Japan has very damn deep ties with Taiwan(15-30% are decendants of japanese, like two cheeks of the same butt) Guess who got national news when that happened... Taiwan has a tabloid based news center since there isn't much happening nationally on the island, so you have a magnifying glass effect.
2. Taiwan's history with (bad) tourist: a lot of absolute stuck up rich Assholes are famed with killing a native by drunk driving, sexual assaulting a native, then abusing the UN/China/Taiwan debacle to escape from punishment. For an example there was recently also a perverted(Canadian) tourist who sexually assaulted two women recently, who was a repeated offender of 3 instances...
3: family values: To say that Taiwanese women are EZ... that's like saying your Mother/Sister/grandmother/great grandmother is a slut and can be thrown aside like tissue paper. Note that many of these people are descendant of people & women who had to survive the horrors of ww2 & civil war and back. So imagine how easy it is to upset everyone, especially when a said youtuber encourages foriegners to go to taiwan for said reason...
4.He is literally at their doorstep... Almost every Taiwanese is has at least one relative in all the major cities since it's so compact.
5: culture: there is a very old cultural center in the Taiwanese populace that takes deep offence to few things: chopsticks stuck pointing upwards(symbolizes death/cursing someone), never let anyone work on the fourth floor(4 rhymes with death/bad omens), lastly do not desecrate/insult/bother the dead(now relate that to number 1 & 3).
DUDE, the fact you played tales of vesperia music AND this was uploaded on my birthday gives you my sub.
This made me incredibly angry..
Especially how other foreigner streamers refused to help him
@Viper 47 Proof, or are you just a slanderous asshole?
@Viper 47 i can tell youre hapa just by typing that
@Viper 47 Can you please provide me with 1 piece of real proof of CJ saying anything demeaning, all I'm asking for is just 1 piece. Cause I know your dumbass won't be able to find one, your culture is a joke.
@Viper 47 you sound like a typical gullible tard. Back you go to playing with yojr crayons
@Viper 47 Not really familiar with CJ but do you have any proof of him being a racist sexpat?
The moment CK came up with that Intro I was like
"I want off of this Wild Ride!"
How many times do you have to upload before they delete your channel?
I don't think youtubes view bot can go through 20 min videos. I've made a 3 and 10 minute video with the same song, but only the 3 minute one got hit with a strike. It's anecdotal evidence, but I am pretty sure my assumption is right.
i really like how this video is available in my country
MALCOLM IN DA MIDDLE
Hey I Renner that show.
8:00 - Apparently doesn’t know he’s streaming.
7:54 - Sees the camera that signifies he’s streaming, and doesn’t negatively react.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND
This situation made me so frustrated
Welp, guess who's NEVER going to Taiwan? It WAS 3rd on my list of places to visit.
Thanks for letting us hear CJ's side of things.
List for those interested:
Russia
Norway
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come to russia theres hot women and vodka
Come to Norway, man. You can stay in my house. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
its your loss. Did anyone think why CJ? i mean. there are so many foringers in taiwan. why only him?
No. because u just want a reason to hate a country u never arrive, and defend a person who doesnt know how to spell RESPECT.
The country gave itself a reason to be hated
No matter who the person was
Yeah... The place is unfortunately horrendously bigoted
When he sticks the "chopstick" into the dirt the chinese sustitles state that apparently he expresses that it is taiwanese culture to stick things in the dirt like that, which can be seen as disrespectful as incense is usually placed similarly to pay respect. If he didn't make such a comment it would be less offensive and could be written off as ignorance...
he didn't say that though, the media only ever lies about him. Taiwanese media in general is extremely corrupt and the population is relatively uninformed over most things because their lies go unquestioned.
LITTERING? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
💗💖💓❤
It's DEATH PENALTY in Taiwan if you take a shit in public, no, it's not a joke.
ILY
Yes, fuck all the Taiwan shit we have enough plastic in nature already.
Taıwan Just Wanted theır own Logan PauL
He Seemed Lıke Such a Nıce Dude
Random tourist: *litters*
Taiwanese people: "So you have chosen death."
Western people may hard to understand that because their cities are so messy fucked up.
@@iennalwang2078 I've seen tons of cigarettes littered throughout the streets. I've seen men spitting on to the ground. I've seen juice cartons thrown around everywhere. I smell intoxicating car smoke immediately when I head out to anywhere. Idk why y'all would manhunt a guy that did the same exact thing other Taiwanese men had done before. Idk how to explain this besides stigmas, xenophobia, and huge misunderstandings. It's honestly sickening.
Loyola_X_Kishi Maybe somewhere there are these people you mentioned. But they don’t record their behavior and upload to the internet. So people won’t know who did these and can’t judge these people’ behavior. However, if someone be too stupid to do this, upload their dishonest behavior, he will get what he deserved.
Loyola_X_Kishi Taiwan is not your home. If you want to do the shit, do it in your own house.
@@iennalwang2078 He deserves a manhunt? Jesus... Littering should be a slap on the wrist, not stalking and threatening. Idk what your point is, but if it is to be inhumanly cruel to a childish mistake, I don't even know anymore.
These allegations really sound like they were taken from a low budget comedy show or a comic book. I'm actually baffled that media takes twitch chat as evidence that he would be a bad guy and judge him. This was hilarious asf.
Honestly, those first three clips of him did look bad for him.
SurgeX798 I mean I probably wouldn't like the guy if I was Taiwanese, but getting things to extremes like doxxing, life threats and so on is kinda way worse
Alex Butters Agreed
Something even worse is the fishball one wasn't even his. It was just laying there so he put it in the bush instead.
No, they really didn't. Anyone offended by this is simply looking for an excuse to be racist, just like all those Taiwanese people in the CJ hate group.
well i mean the indian guy is going to shit in the street atleast once before someone tells him its wrong, then its up to him to understand not to do it again.
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Upload? Again? Hopefully this isn't demonetized, because it is a really good video.
Xeiality I see 2 midrolls so I hope so
This is my first profile piece video I saw from you Glink, and I must say this is awesome. I'm about to binge every other video you've done like this, please continue making these videos, they are awesome man!
Thanks man! Ill do my best :)
I feel like I’ve read this exact comment like 7 times...
4:30 Can we just stop for a moment and notice how cute the reporter is?
I just want to tell you i really like your videos. All the time and effort you put into them and the way you share it with us makes them really interesting and enjoyable to watch. Thanks for making these videos and keep up the good job!
Hey I just found this video through your OWL video, very informative video, I like it a lot. I am from Taiwan, even though I've never heard of this news before, it happened when I was on vacation so maybe I missed it. This is actually ridiculous, sure he did do stuff like throwing litter and stuff, but it's not really a great deal. Taiwanese people do it , alot actually that's why some parts of Taiwan are quiet messy just like America and Europe. And the EZ thing is just stupid, yeah I know not a lot of Taiwanese people watch English streams, so they might not know about the memes and stuff, but to take all off these shit completely out of context, it really makes me sad. I know the media is crap just like every other country (look at OWL), but the way my people reacted is actually so embarrasing. Nothing typed in twitch chat should be taken seriously, people say whatever they want because it's the internet, they think they are safe from others. I've seen some Taiwanese chats say some fucked up shit that would definitely piss people from other countries off. This happens because of the language barrier and the cultural differences, and the media would always do whatever to get views, I really don't get why people take them seriously anymore, I personally watch them for shits and giggles.TBF tho if the countries have reversed, the western media would probably have done the same, and the people there might end up calling us racist. But in this case the fault is definitely on us, and I'm really sorry that my people did this. I don't know if cj streams anymore I'm going to try and reach out to him and tell him not all Taiwanese people are peices of shits. And I hope he can still find the beauty in our country. EZ Clap
Im so glad i found your channel last month so many amazing videos keep growing!!
why was it removed?
Wow the Taiwanese are a "special people" arent they? Narcissim and Naivete aren't a good combo.
It’s not very difficult to see why people get enraged at groups of people, especially when a vocal group of them are so retarded. Yikes I hate generalisations so much but a lot don’t help the case
AWWHHH SHIEETT A NEW GLINK VIDEO!
Dis gun' be guud.
I am satisfied.
For now.
They're complaining about a little bit of littering but how about they deal with their overpopulation,exploitation of women and children,and their plethora of other problems first.
That's why they're mad don't you see? Only they can exploit their women.
@Viper 47 yo dude I get the fact that you love taiwan and all, but ya'll really gotta calm down.The guy just littered in the street cus no trash cans were there, thats just something we've all done at least one time in our lives but last I checked we didnt get harassed or have an entire mob send death threats to us or anything like that now did we?
@@randyadkins130 last I checked taiwan doesnt have the same exploitation levels as china.Those guys complaining about the women are just insecure as hell
I recently called you a wanna be idubbbz and I apologize for it :)
Aaron Coombs Aaron is a girls name
+Aaron Coombs Have what? A child?
I'm sterile
Land lmao
How is he a wanna be idubbbz?that is such a retarded statement
Underrated youtuber. I love your profile pieces! It's like Content Cop but family friendly.
Taiwan? Did you mean China?
Now that they would find offensive :D
yes its all about the china, taiwan issue.
I visited both countries when I was studying in hong kong.
Both great countries with a lot of nice peoples.
Nah, the Taiwanese think they're the real China too. If you called them a "rouge district of the PRC" then they'd probably get triggered.
Taiwan is just another Chinese colony to re-brand Chinese product as Made in Taiwan.
hoherspatz Except "Taiwan" isn't actually a country. It's a Chinese colony who plays at being independent but is sure to not proclaim this too loudly in case the Chinese get fed up with the charade...
張J Does the USA call itself "Republic of England" and shit itself whenever real England does military exercises? The difference between The USA and Chinese Taipei is that England won't ever get The US back...
Hold up.
Tales of Vesperia OST?
Subbed.
I get the littering part. But everything else was taken *REALLY* out of context.
Yeah his littering isn't justified, but to make those things national news feels like they wanted to take him out and were just waiting for a reason to.
This is an excellent video, but this topic makes me just furious.
9:39 Hell nah Taiwan trippin
THE FUCKING MADMAN, THAT FISH COULDVE KILLED MILLIONS.
wow I remember watching this on the news when it happened. I didn't pay much attention to it until similar stories were popping up on the taiwanese version of reddit, making the same accusations and recounting almost every little thing he did in his streaming career. As an english speaker whose somewhat familiar with streaming culture I can see now that these accusations are completely out of context, but for locals who mostly don't speak english it's hard to discern especially when the news reports misinterpret (not sure if intentional or just can't comprehend) while providing fabricated source and evidence.
but tbh cjay was a scapegoat for a greater underlying animosity that most taiwanese have toward foreign males, mostly due to a rather intense fascination that a large number of taiwanese girls have toward foreigners, which I found also occurs in other asian countries but at a lesser degree. This is truly sad to watch and I hope things work out for him, taiwanese are generally really friendly and if reports like this gets out things can really change for the better for him and the twisted foreign hating culture.
I don't follow many taiwanese youtubers but I know there are many that are fluent in english and do investigative reports. I'll try to reach out the best I can with this video. thanks for the great interview and report!
Nice comment
I've been waiting for this video for so much time, thank you!
as an Taiwanese who followed the whole CJ drama from start to now, you do realize this is basically an whole culture's majority at its display, blind patriotism in Taiwan is rampant, and news media already cross the red line on when to "stop" to a point of no return, and CJayRide is just plays a little part of this cultural issue, and you have to also acknowledge that *Majority* of population here are either at [Not capable of read/speak english] to [All out dislikes the value in western world].
Which will cause more insane amount of communicating problem between Western world and Taiwan. and the moral value from western world will probably never be accept nor taken seriously in Taiwan. and the Local opinion will always be consider the first in the future as usual.
That's a really serious Cultural difference, and it wont changes it over night nor in years, nor in century.
Also you get most of the information wrong in video so, lets wait for shitstorm comes.
Cosmin Costea CHINA NUMBA ONE
Mind elaborating on what facts were taken wrong? This is America not China. We'll actually listen to your side of the story without trying to ruin your life and career.
Damn...
I perked up instantly once I heard that Xenogears music; talk about a nostalgia moment while diving through your channel
Hey Glink,
As a Singaporean subscriber, I think I can offer some form of explanation, being exposed to Chinese culture and Western media channels my whole life. I'm born Chinese, but speak both English and Mandarin from a young age.
Littering instances: Places like Japan, Taiwan and Singapore take public cleanliness very seriously. Japanese people keep trash in their own bag until they find a bin and second-time littering offenders in Singapore have to do public cleaning for a few hours. Seeing him flagrantly toss the fish ball in the bush and stick the foodstick in the soil irked me. It was quite disrespectful and I understand this might sound crazy to you, but hey, different country = different culture right?
CJayRide's first apology: I think it is safe to say that his apology did not seem sincere, especially after comparing it to his most recent apology. This may have worsened things. However, I applaud and appreciate his action of actively picking up litter later on. I think that deserved him forgiveness, at the very least.
Bella (and Asian girls with white men): First of all, Bella is a two-faced bitch that just victimized herself. Aside from her, I do hear some Asian women complain about Asian men and how they prefer white males. I admit, white males are generally better looking, have better physiques/height and are more eloquent, which might cause a inferiority complex amongst Asian men. I think this is definitely one of the main causes for the "brigading" but by no means a justifiable one. Just want to give you some background/explanation.
Taiwanese news portals and hate groups: Like many tabloids and fake news articles, they will spread any form of vitriol for views and clicks. Likewise for the hate groups, we can all agree the Internet is really a double-edged sword and groups like /r/fatpeoplehate find so much ease to grow. I think fake news, xenophobia and hate groups are being experienced in a lot of developed countries, with Taiwan being one of them.
My opinion of CJayRide: Honestly, his disrespect for public cleanliness and not-so-sincere first apology really got him on the wrong foot with me, so I won't be watching his content. However, I genuinely feel sorry for the guy who moved halfway across the globe to embrace another country's culture and people, only for the same (albeit bigger group) to hate on him with much misinformation. Really unlucky.
My thoughts on this video: I feel like you might be downplaying his blatant littering actions in the first part of his video. Rest of the video, you approached it in your reliably factual fashion. However, your "China Number One!" skit at the end rubbed me the wrong way. It felt quite racist and uncalled for. It doesn't help the case for white people being respectful/not racist. I really hope you won't do something similar in the future. I'm still a subscriber and look forward to more of your content in the future.
Bryan Xie thank you for taking the time to respond and write out your detailed thoughts.
I don't have too much to add, but I do think, as you said the littering thing was made up for with the apology and charity streams.
As far as the ending joke goes, sorry if it was offense. I enjoy racial humor and this didn't seem to be crossing a line that most comedians would get backlash for. I was stereotyping Chinese people, but I myself find it funny when people do the same for my culture, infact I joke about it myself all the time. I know my humor (or lack thereof) wont always bode well with everyone, but that's not a goal I think is attainable if you want to put yourself and your style out there. I will take what you said into account though.
Perhaps the context of the video was setting a very uneasy tone between different races, so the joke might not land in good taste. Otherwise a very good video. Thank you for responding my reply :)
Bryan Xie so Taiwanese people never litter? I find that pretty hard to believe... also chopsticks are made of wood by the way. You know, that shit that grows on trees. He’s putting it back where it belongs.
The littering warranted a 15 usd fine. I'm pretty sure every person on earth has, at some point, littered in his life. How pathetic must someone's own life be to start a witch hunt over that?
the introduction at 9:29 is priceless. Easily best part of the video.
Pretty much why trying to live anywhere else outside the US and EU is a useless idea, due to batshit crazy cultures and laws.
@osamabinobama
think about what you just said
Unless you give yourself in into the culture, it does work.
But it makes you a weirdo to us asians lul.
Great video! And I’m glad Josh from New York could make an appearance too!
The amount of work you put into making quality videos is awesome. Keep it up
He didn't get criticized for "talking to a bald guy". It says he used the dude's face as an emote without his consent.
Viper 47 CHINA NUMBA ONE
@Viper 47 you:if a white person says it it must be true
Also you:if the news says it true it must be true
Taiwan Government Has Unlocked
*White Knight Lvl100*
Why did this get taken down from my country?
Elijah rulz maybe Asians?
Beppi the clown F****** CHINA!
Elijah rulz why are you censoring yourself
zeeotter100 why not?
Don't you mean 'chia'?
since they banned the letter N and all
This is not even close to the type of content I watch, but I appreciate the effort and work you put into making these videos. Also your voice is amazing. Thank you for a great video man
Yeah, that's what I learned from SerpentZA's/Winston's videos about China in general. People there can be cool, but it's not difficult for mob mentality to occur, especially with "us vs. the outsiders". Even he, purely making informative videos about a foreigner's living China without sugarcoating anything, had some people go after him for supposedly hating the country.
Good to know that Glink is praising cjayride as a respectful, kind and wholesome person (18:35-18:41).
I sincerely hope that there exists an instrument to inspect the truth value of a statement. (Please do not mention that polygraph exists. I am talking about an instrument with 100% effectiveness/reliability.)
Stuck a chopsticks like that is quite offensive in the asian culture. It means wishing one's death. I was taught that from a young age from both my chinese and japanese family
Are people really this superstitious in 2018? Shit like this belongs to the 11th century
OsamaBinObama bro take your Adderall 😂😂
well lets just say ignorance is bliss. i hope he can just look through the hates and continue doing his things because once these hates sparked by some nationalism shits its really hard to put down. i dont know none of these people on the video. but i have a lot of experiences with chinese and taiwanese(they're the same people ethnically and mentally). so i can only imagine they're doing it to cjayride is purely based on the we vs them(white men) mentally that sparked by that tattooed taiwanese guy. they are very overly critical toward the foreigners, some of them just waiting there with their pitchforks, waiting for the foreigners fuckups and ready to attack. and that belle girl or whoever is pressured to stand on their side because the taiwanese media was painting her as this "white meat craving girl", so she had to stand with the taiwanese and tell lies that how cjayride was taking sexual advantages of her if she want to continuing living in taiwan without getting harass daily like cjayride does.
thank you batman
dartzu its not superstitious but a cutural thing imo, like the ritual of El día de los muertos or thanksgiving turkey.
Saw you comment on Rogans podcast, figured I'd check your channel. Binged a lot, really good shit man
I feel like asian countries in general are kinda weird about that shit though.
In Japan I was using a vaporizer and was actually ~kindly~ pulled aside by the local authorities and handed a little tissue-pamphlet-map combo asking me to please not smoke on the streets. You can't even eat and walk without shame-glaring because you might litter their uh... Concrete.. And god forbid you jaywalk. Again, not nearly as aggressive, but the fear of the looks was more than enough. I understood that just as a guest there for a few days, if you live in a country that strict then you should really know better.
Not to say any of the backlash then was warranted but c'mon bud... You knew you were doin a no-no.
This is why you literally never, EVER apologize to someone online.
DEMONITIZED
@Glink and you might want to re-check your translation source. What binge said at 13:52 was "I have one thing to tell you, Taiwan people are 'very polite', please don't hit me, bye bye."
Yet still people defending Taiwan in the comments. The only excuse being that one can will destroy their environment mixed with awhole lot of blind patriotism. Yeah thats really rational, even after the guy apologizes several times.
Glink, i love your chanel, your bring the most of your videos and you are a journalist pioneering what needs to be heard to help others, bless your soul
But in the Philippines literally everyone litters
Beppi the clown, the Philippines is overpopulated because it's a Catholic nation. Catholics don't exactly believe in the condom.
Seen Vietnam? Plastic bags everywhere.
12:21 why is some of that in Hungarian?
Here's the key things I got out of this video...
1) First thing being that money truly does run everything, the media chose to push real hate towards an innocent man for the sake of views and monetary gain. That's why CJs twitch "friends" said nothing and chose to ignore it as they didn't want to lose their channels, to them their channel is more important than someone's life.
2) People can switch on you like a dime when things turn south, bitch I mean Bella saw things were going south and chose to blatantly lie to avoid any further confrontation. Everyone was all buddy buddy at first and then turned into enemies.
3) Never take anything for granted
Side note, seeing this video made me genuinely upset with Taiwanese people. Even when looking through their perspective, they're still the evil ones. As they view CJ as some American nationalist who thinks their culture sucks and women are easy to get. Does that justify trying to murder him over allegations like that? I find it extremely hard to believe that they're more friendly there than people here in the US and they want to murder you and give you AIDS over that. To make matters worse is when CJ questions them on what bad things he's said and they have no answer to give, but say "I'm too busy". How busy are you that you can casually walk through a park and go out of YOUR way to confront someone else?
Makes me very upset to see someone so wholesome done wrong by society for no other reason other than to have controversy for $$$...
It also makes them no better than Mainland China in that regard, which is a huge deal for people that live in a democracy. Everyday the Chinese Communist Party comes up with a new scheme to take over the world and Taiwan is almost always the intended victim. If the Taiwanese people can be mislead by their media to pick on a foreigner who wanted to promote the country and committed the heinous crime of not picking up after himself and also doing something stupid, but relatively harmless at the end of the day, imagine what will happen if China manages to get those outlets to spew out pro-CCP propaganda. Goodbye Taiwan and goodbye living proof of the possibility of democracy for the Han Chinese.
Damn ive never heard about this. Great video, cjay if you see this just know you got another one on your side
This is insane. I feel kind of bad for that guy.
CJ has always struck me as the most wholesome IRL streamer on Twitch. Really sad to see him treated like this.
Oh look Canadians can watch it now.
Haha yes
Yo the use of "Prive of Freedom" was fucking great
So is sticking a chopstick standing up taboo as it is in Japan, signifying death?
hal900x it IS if it's in rice, but in soil I'm not too sure.
hal900x sticking incense sticks in rice means that the rice is for the spirits, and it is extremely rude when you say sticking an used chopstick in dirt is a kind of Taiwanese culture just because you want to litter.
poortaiwanese If all cultures in east Asia come from mainland China , then we can say all American cultures come from England. And it's better to say that all cultures come from Africa cuz there was where human originated.
poortaiwanese I'm sorry but if what you said was true then we could absolutely say all cultures came from Africa same logic
poortaiwanese all races in east Asia came from mainland China=all cultures in east Asia came from mainland China
If the logic above is right then it's fine to say all cultures came from Africa cuz all races came from Africa
NOOOOO! NOT A CHOPSTICK IN THE DIRT!!!
Thanks for the re-upload
The thumbnail simultaneously looks like a recreation of a scene in a anime intro and a movie poster from the 80s.
thanks for taking a stand
Shit as a Taiwanese American I can definitely agree with the overreactive media, gang-up hate mob culture (as do many Asian and other predominantly monoethnic countries), but it’s not hard to see that there’s also some inaccurate reporting from Glink’s side with mistranslation, misunderstanding culture (the chopstick in mud situation & Chinese internet slang, just to name a few).
Now this is my first time on this story and I’m not on the IRL section of twitch much but overall, my impression just watching from this whole report on CJ is a shit ton of misunderstanding from both sides that kind of incited this situation.
I’ve enjoyed glink’s content so far but let’s be honest here: nonpartisan reporting hardly ever exists. In my opinion glink could’ve used more sources (majority of his source was cj’s words) and perhaps a bit more of everything. It would be hard but that’s the standard we need.
I guess the main point I learned from this is TLDR, it’s hard to say that there isn’t any kind of news reporting that doesn’t have bias to skew a viewer’s opinion on a subject matter, so it’s important to USE AS MANY RESOURCES TO CROSSCHECK YOUR FACTS AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Sorry for the long message on my perspective.
No, over-reactive media and gang-up hate mob culture to this degree is not the norm in many other Asian or other mono-ethnic countries. This is a ridiculous aspect of Han Chinese culture. The fact that you can draw parallels between mainland China and Taiwan in regards to vicious foreigner witch hunts (or literally hunting down foreigners in mainland China) is sad and pathetic.
As a half Taiwanese half German I would like to give my perspective to CJ’s whole situation and your report about it.
Please note that I haven’t read more into this situation, so I’m basing all my opinions on your report alone.
The littering incident:
To be honest, I think the public outcry over CJ’s littering is justified. He isn’t just littering, he is broadcasting the act of littering to a big online audience while, in a sense, promoting tourism in Taiwan. With an audience like that he needs to think about his platform and himself as a role model. We live in an age where a tweet could get you fired, so a public reaction like that doesn’t surprise me, especially in the context of the taiwanese media, that likes to gossip and sensationalize things. I do think he responded very well to the situation, doing a charity stream where he picks up litter and donates the stream profits.
The Spa incident:
Here I agree that the taiwanese people promoting and participating in the hate speech and hate rallies against him acted intolerably and unjustified. It’s a total overreaction and unacceptable. I think some language misunderstandings also fueled the situation (you showed a clip of Ck watching a video where (I assume) CJ asks for support dealing with racist taiwanese people, Ck then asks, “is he insulting Taiwan?”. Also, it may be strange to western people, but in Chinese speaking countries, people like to abbreviate words with similar sounding numbers. So, while it may seem like a conspiracy and “codes” to you, it’s just common practice in Asia. Though I don’t know how the numbers for “CJ” and “idiot” were derived).
Now to your report of the whole case:
1. For the littering incident, I feel like your editing and way of portrayal shows a clear bias toward CJ and dismisses the bigger picture of him littering on stream. While I understand why it may seem like a small insignificant act to you, I think you undersold the situation.
2. Just a bit that seemed unclear to me: In the segment about “EZ” and the pepe, it is unclear to me whether the twitch chat started using the EZ emote before Jakenbakes “easy” remark or if the emote was just a result of it. You seem to present it like it was the first case.
3. Lastly my biggest criticism: About your “China no. one” remark at the end. Endorsing a state that is basically an international bully and doesn’t give a shit about human rights out of spite just because you hope to offend a specific group of taiwanese people is simply put: immature.
(To clarify: I have nothing against chinese people, merely China's government and political stance.)
G0hrx idk man, China might be an international bully but Taiwan is definitely showcasing how they can bully too by what they've done to CJ so far, with the death threats and all. China might be number one in terms of bullying, but Taiwan isn't far behind it seems, maybe number 4.
d da I totally agree, the behavior concerning the second incident is unjust and wrong. But my criticism is that Glink drags China into the discussion for seemingly no other reason than to try and piss off a certain group of Taiwanese people. Which is in my opinion an unreasonable thing to do considering China's political stance. China wasn't a part of the discussion before he made his remark.
Taiwanese independence is a matter that is important to me. If Glink were to make a video about the political situation of China and Taiwan and would show a different political opinion I would respect that. It's just the circumstances of his remark that makes it look petty. Maybe I'm overreacting here, but to me, anytime China and Taiwan come up in a discussion it always gets a political connotation.
G0hrx I do actually agree with you, my response wasn't entirely serious.
Some Taiwanese men don't like seeing Taiwanese women with white men, that concisely explains the backlash from the spa incident. I believe the 'EZ' controversy was just an excuse for some netizens to brigade against the evil foreigners that are taking their women away. It's why they've rallied around CK, the juicehead that totally isn't compensating for a bruised ego or inferiority complex. As for the littering, I agree with you entirely, it was quite disrespectful.
Zetunez Yea, some Taiwanese men don't like white men with their women. It's the same in South Korea but worse.
He fixes his headphones at 16:00 for anyone who was waiting for that
Bella not even decent
Maybe a 3/10 at best
Dude was that a Chrono Cross or Chrono Trigger song you played at the end? Not the kung-fu fighting song for the outro but the one before that which concludes CJ's story.
he did litter so don't say he didn't do anything wrong...
But the reaction is a bit extreme
a bit? littering warrants a 15 usd fine.