Mini bluetooth thermal printer teardown - with schematic

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • These are really cheap and common devices on eBay, sold as toys for printing images onto thermally sensitive paper. This one came with several rolls including coloured paper and self adhesive label material.
    The printer can only print one colour, usually black, dictated by the paper itself. The app does allow printing of photos, and uses dithering to get rough shades of grey. Given the relatively low resolution, the images are surprisingly identifiable.
    The thermal printers are very minimalist and refined due to their widespread use in receipt and label printers. If you consider that almost every till has a thermal printer for ease of maintenance (no ink) and an absolute minimum of moving parts, then it makes them very cheap and available for items like this one.
    The printing is done by heating up the paper with a row of tiny resistors. When heated the thermally sensitive paper changes colour.
    Although the USB data lines are there, I plugged the printer into the USB port of my Chromebook and it didn't detect it. It may work with a PC.
    Note that I've accidentally swapped the source and drain of the 2301A MOSFET in the schematic.
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  • @jingarjay8754
    @jingarjay8754 Год назад +24

    The Bluetooth SoC is an JieLi AC6956C4. Its actually a Bluetooth audio chip but it also has a decently powerful MCU that can be repurposed for applications like this.

  • @simonhopkins3867
    @simonhopkins3867 Год назад +25

    Love those small stepper motors. So much accuracy for pennies.

  • @darkindy
    @darkindy Год назад +35

    I am impressed they even managed to make the USB port look happy and friendly.

  • @jussikuusela7345
    @jussikuusela7345 Год назад +88

    If you have an old faded thermal receipt, sometimes a quick swipe of a hot clothes iron can reveal a negative image of the original.

    • @Stealth86651
      @Stealth86651 Год назад +13

      Surprised I never saw this in an episode of CIA, seems like the perfect trick they'd throw in an episode.

    • @UberAlphaSirus
      @UberAlphaSirus Год назад +11

      LOL, my boss ironed all his diesel recipts in one go. the look on his face was pricless.

    • @jussikuusela7345
      @jussikuusela7345 Год назад

      @@UberAlphaSirus yep... big mistake unless the original printing has already faded. Also heating too much in one go will make it all fade to grey... ruclips.net/video/UMPC8QJF6sI/видео.htmlsi=-SVuLr2U923yts7U

    • @vtbn53
      @vtbn53 Год назад +2

      That's a great tip, I will try it, thanks.

  • @vnvn-st5pn
    @vnvn-st5pn Год назад +40

    Takes me back to when microprocessor based computers first became in reach for hobbyists. Started with just a board that had a keyboard on it and connected to a TV and a cassette recorder for storage. Next upgrade was either a floppy that held 80k or a printer; and so many odd printers were available, most seemed to be dot matrix printers made for cash registers pressed into service for the hobby. Some had a typewriter ribbon, some were a kind of silvery paper, and some were thermal. But in the absence of the large scale ceramic assembly like this printer, they had a little ceramic print head of 7 or 9 dots and another motor to slide it across the page.
    Putting together a working system from these parts that were not meant to go together taught me a lot of electronics; like tacking on some TTL electronics to get a parallel port out of the serial port built into the board. I think kids miss out these days when you just pair it with your phone or laptop and it works.

    • @Whiffert
      @Whiffert Год назад +4

      I remember the printer that Sinclair released for the ZX-81. It used the famous silver paper and the printhead was just a pointed wire that arced out and made a black spot.

    • @aaronbrandenburg2441
      @aaronbrandenburg2441 Год назад

      ​@@Whiffertalways wondered if they had a way to do this commercially back in the day I had an idea of being able using or something like that assassin idea didn't even know that really existed that was just an idea the Bible head how to easily print something.
      There was another means of electrophonic printing back in the day that was used for some things including transmitting I believe charts and weather maps is things like this when it would be sent over some sort of wired connection it was covered nice thing later on but Tuesday pretty nasty chemical composition I know it was loaded with some pretty toxic stuff I think part of it was a cyanide based but I could be wrong on the chemical composition some people referred to this as Baines soggy paper.
      If anyone has any idea what system this was with the name of the printing process please give her a heads-up as well.
      Also somebody Evernote I discovered years and years ago if you applied and DC voltage through any mail or similar you could easily cut aluminum can material and also aluminum foil not that my current required.
      Had a idea of using some sort of ex-wife water and being able to to cut things out with lightweight aluminum material could almost be able to cut out a stencil for surface-mount perhaps this was really before die cut machines were real thing or at least as far as I knew at that time it was that far back that wouldn't really even know but then again back then we didn't have internet so there's that as well.
      Speaking of stencils does anyone know a good source for used X-ray film like use for stencils and such also was trying to use some for like diffusing.
      Need to cut very small discs of this invariable shades of transparency would be great and that's why I thought about using this particular stuff as well for both things.
      And also does anyone know what you would call that and translucent plastic it was fairly thin that is sometimes used to make stencils as well I'm trying to find this and don't know what to call it or perhaps an Amazon link as well.
      Much appreciate any info and replies

    • @asciimation
      @asciimation Год назад

      I recently, well a few years ago, made my own 6502 based computer from scratch and repurposed a little POS thermal printer to work with it. Being an older printer the power supply brick was the same size as the printer unit itself!

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Год назад +1

      Yep. I can remember being a lad in school, playing "games" on those early P.C.'s with the data cable plugged into the cassette recorder's audio jack, very slowly retrieving data.. 😆

    • @asciimation
      @asciimation Год назад +1

      @@davelowets And often failing after a 5 minute or longer load time!

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA Год назад +33

    Circuitry on the back likely is a boost converter, so that they can use alternate print heads (likely faster print versions) that are either higher resolution or faster response time, that need a higher power supply voltage to operate them, as the most common print heads do need something higher than 3V to operate, typically something between 12 to 24VDC at a rather high current, so as to have the very fast heat up and cool time for fast response.
    Print head that blob is actually a few serial to parallel driver chips, thin and long, that take a common clock and enable, and then have a serial data in per chip, so that you clock in basically a small section of the data, and thus parallel load at least some of the shift registers in them. Then another connection provides the parallel output enable, so that all the print heads that will write thermally will get an enable on them, heating up the thin film element segments for the width of the pulse, while at the sale time the data is latched, and the shift register chain is busy being fed the data for the next line. End of the write pulse all the heads turn off, and then there is a cool down time, still clocking data in, before the next step is to have the stepper driver move the paper up one pixel height, and then repeat the write cycle.
    At 3V likely very slow, low resistance heads that need a good amount of power, thus the wide traces to the print head to provide it, and the missing electrolytic capacitors on the main board, removed for cost, relying on the lithium cell impedance being low, not so good after a few cycles or when the cell is getting low, and really should have been left in, as after all the 2 electrolytic capacitors would have cost under a cent in volume, but likely not compatible with SMD PNP line used, or the SMD versions were a whole cent more.

    • @alunjones3860
      @alunjones3860 Год назад +2

      It might also be a buck converter, so the same printer can be run off two cells, giving 7.4V.

  • @davidrichter57
    @davidrichter57 Год назад +7

    That 7.4V silkscreened note on the PCB somehow made me flash to our inevitable future, where the person doing the PCB layout leaves an easter egg for Big Clive. Something obvious enough to be recognized by the right crowd, while discreet enough to make it into production.

  • @bskull3232
    @bskull3232 Год назад +7

    The Chinese written on the sticker says low voltage version, and the board certainly has footprints for a boost converter chip, output diodes, and inductors. I think the board was designed to accommodate both 3.7V and 7.4V print heads, this particular unit has a 3.7V print head, thus the boost circuit is not populated.

  • @keyboarderror1
    @keyboarderror1 Год назад +76

    You should be able to print over USB as well. There's a person online who hooked one of those up to a web gateway and was letting people send text and images to it. They had a bit of a trick replacing the battery with a power supply to keep it going as the current draw during printing would reset the micro-controller.

    • @sidewinder15599
      @sidewinder15599 Год назад +1

      You absolutely can. It's kind of hilarious to print from Word to one.

    • @hjalfi
      @hjalfi Год назад

      I have a couple of old word processors with thermal heads, including a portable laptop thing. They'll work either with thermal paper or if you attach a special ink transfer ribbon they'll print onto ordinary paper. I even have a 198x Epson thermal printer designed for a PX-8 CP/M laptop; it's incredibly slow and low resolution but lots of fun to use (search RUclips for 'hjalfi has a new printer' to see it in action). The cool thing is that the print head is only eight pixels high, and it somehow uses the same motor to wind the paper, move the head, and extend or retract the print head to touch the paper. The only problem is sourcing the paper; they still make it, but sourcing anything less than a kilometre is tricky...

    • @GizmoTheGreen
      @GizmoTheGreen Год назад +2

      mine doesn't seem to be found over usb. "your luck may vary" kind of thing?

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz Год назад +6

      Oh cool, I've already been reverse engineering the BLE protocol for this printer on and off for a while, planning to use ESP32 as a gateway. I'll take a look at that project though.

    • @noahandthefurry4573
      @noahandthefurry4573 Год назад +3

      what about printing from a pc over bluetooth?

  • @markiangooley
    @markiangooley Год назад +10

    I bought an HP-41C calculator when they were a new thing and also the thermal printer for it. Waste of money for me: I was 17 or so and it cost me my savings from a summer job. Never got serious use from them. But the printer and the thermal paper were especially fascinating to me! I had a lot of fun marking the thermal paper with pressure and friction heat between a table and a moving fingernail, or with any source of heat.

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude Год назад +2

      I can't remember the model, but I had the Casio (I think) one with the printer built in, purely to play with the printer heh.

    • @beardedchimp
      @beardedchimp 11 месяцев назад

      As a kid I was captivated by my Da's fax machine, the magical simplicity is irresistible. I spent hours trying different methods like fingernails or a soldering iron. My favourite of course was a magnifying glass on a sunny day. Northern Ireland rarely having such weather made whipping out the magnifying glass even more special.

  • @justcallmeavi3255
    @justcallmeavi3255 Год назад +3

    Big Clive - "Just cause' you've got a cute face doesn't mean I'm not gonna' tear you to bits..."

  • @mikehibbett3301
    @mikehibbett3301 Год назад +14

    I remember a few years ago when I was working on a BLE Microcontroller SoC development at a big CPU manufacturer :) we had some insights on Asian competitor SoCs. One of them was selling a BLE SoC what was available for 10 cents at volume. Mad. The application of that SoC was specifically for the "selfie stick" market, but it still blew us away that they could sell a BLE SoC for less than the cost of our test process.

    • @_BangDroid_
      @_BangDroid_ Год назад +12

      The benefits of ignoring labor laws, human rights and environmental impact.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

      IP theft is rampant in china so it's very possible they did not pay for development and just ripped off someone else. Also what the other guy said

    • @mikehibbett3301
      @mikehibbett3301 Год назад +5

      @@_BangDroid_ A portion of that price for sure is covered by what you say. But I think a larger part was a strong focus on a specific market need, and an acceptance that these products would have a very short lifetime, so could have a very low quality bar.

    • @nyetloki
      @nyetloki Год назад +1

      Mass production has its benefits of economies of scale, plus years of cost cutting analysis. You could probably even get the same soc for 5 cents from a ghost run ha

    • @Wegetsignal
      @Wegetsignal Год назад +2

      People crap on China alot, but if they're saving me money I don't have an issue.

  • @robroysyd
    @robroysyd Год назад +16

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. What I really like about this device is the roll of paper doesn't need a chip in it. I'm thinking of Dymo who have been going down some dodgy paths of late e.g. no longer selling the tape for a not cheap printer. Their solution to the problem is to sell you a new printer. The only issue I can see with this and any thermal printer is the ink does fade over time especially in my toasty in Summer man cave.

    • @rocketman221projects
      @rocketman221projects Год назад +5

      How quick the print fades really depends on the quality of the thermal paper. I have thermal labels on stuff that I printed 20 years ago that still look good. I've had others that fade out in months. Also, some brands of labels degrade very quickly when stuck on certain types of plastic.

    • @robroysyd
      @robroysyd Год назад +4

      @@rocketman221projects Thanks for that, it's good to know, I understand store receipts fading but I would have thought the laminated Dymo labels would last forever but it can get hot in my workshop and they are on clear plastic trays.

    • @neilcaldwell870
      @neilcaldwell870 Год назад +2

      Good point. Own goal by Dymo I reckon though. Where I work we bought a new Dymo label printer to replace a smashed one. Then the horror of the NFC labels were noticed. That's it for Dymo, no more! Brother from now on. Let's hope they don't go the same way.

    • @outaspaceman
      @outaspaceman 7 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve found the rolls with the adhesive backing/sticker stock holds the image well and I’ve not noticed the labels fading on the jars in my (North Facing) shed…👍

    • @patrickvdh8606
      @patrickvdh8606 2 месяца назад

      Even Chinese manufacturers like Niimbot are going on this route. Where they have a NFC tag in the rolls.

  • @s0litaire2k
    @s0litaire2k Год назад +7

    Takes me back to my old ZX Spectrum PC when I saved up my pocket and birthday money to buy the Thermal Printer and rolls of the silver coloured paper...

    • @Mike-tv9rk
      @Mike-tv9rk Год назад

      Sectrum ?? Spellchecker on dude ? 😂😂

  • @williamromine5715
    @williamromine5715 Год назад +91

    I am amazed about how interested I am in his videos. Being the channel's "village idiot", I have absolutely no idea what he is talking about, but my day is complete when he comes out with a new video. Being an old fart(81), I still think radio is magic, so electronics is totally science fiction. So, thanks again Clive in peacefully ending a rather upsetting day for this old man.

    • @jam99
      @jam99 11 месяцев назад +6

      It's his calming hypnotic voice.

    • @amorphuc
      @amorphuc 11 месяцев назад +2

      I'm with you there though over the years, I think my understanding of circuits and how they work grows with each video.

    • @rjmun580
      @rjmun580 11 месяцев назад +6

      "Radio" ? Is that the same as wireless - you young lads and your trendy talk.

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@rjmun580 Yes, they are the same. It's just that here in the former colonies, we generally called it radio rather than wireless. A rose by any other name...it's still magic.

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@jam99 Yeah. He would be one hell of a used car salesman.

  • @TechBaffle
    @TechBaffle Год назад +6

    That's a cool little printer. It's like a miniature version of a receipt printer and impressive how low price they are these days!

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi Год назад +37

    Remarkably simple design, might pick up one of these to print rude messages. Side note, the thermal paper can be "written on" by a fingernail rubbed swiftly across the surface. Rather amusing screwing with sales clerks by signing the receipt without a pen.

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd Год назад +2

      Oh, we had the same idea

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

      oh yeah, rude messages printer, I like that

    • @PaulSteMarie
      @PaulSteMarie Год назад +4

      Looks like just the thing for printing out one's thoughts on other's parking ability for sub-wiper delivery.

    • @NoDollarCrolla
      @NoDollarCrolla Год назад +5

      Reminds me of when I persuaded my mum to get me a mechanical Dymo label printer when I was young to 'label my lego". Sorry mum, rude and silly messages hidden round the house and school was way more fun! 😂

    • @dennis8196
      @dennis8196 Год назад +2

      Maybe I should release my code to print to this via RPi (easily rewritten in principle for an ESP32). It gave me flexibility to print without unreliable Chinese app of dubious quality and origin. It was good for a bit of fun, but I never completely finished the project, I moved over to a print assembly that could be packaged into one case.

  • @U014B
    @U014B Год назад +5

    Even the charge/BT LEDs make a little smiley face with the charge port. I definitely need to start a business so I can use this to print receipts. Maybe a biker bar or a welding supply...

  • @ksbs2036
    @ksbs2036 Год назад +6

    Clive, I don't have much useful to say other than every video of yours is just such a treat. I have taken to watching them twice, once for content and the second after a couple of whiskeys to bask in the joy of discovery and general good humour. Thanks Clive!

  • @McTroyd
    @McTroyd Год назад +9

    I guess we know where all the cast-offs from the portable point-of-sale machines go. Pretty nifty that this is even possible. Would be interesting to see it work on an oscilloscope that can do a memory capture, so we can see how fast those print pulses really are.

  • @JW-uC
    @JW-uC Год назад +2

    Brings back memories of the "printer" (and I use the term advisedly) of the Spectrum Z80. Its amazing how far that has transformed into a device that is found everywhere. I also remember that the silver prints went totally black over time.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Год назад +3

      The Sinclair printer used metallised black paper and an electrified stylus to burn off the metallisation.

    • @JW-uC
      @JW-uC Год назад +2

      @@bigclivedotcom Wow, my memory of how they worked was so wrong, lol. I'd always, with the age of time and fuzzy recollection, thought it was a standard thermal printer.

  • @paranoiia8
    @paranoiia8 Год назад +6

    It's still somehow amazing that this type of print head can managed to print as after all, those microscopic resistors need to get hot pretty fast and be precise and heat is heat, it's easy to make something hot but not that easy to cool it down fast without additional help and heat spread it self around so it's not super precise.

    • @nyetloki
      @nyetloki Год назад +4

      No thermal mass means it won't retain the heat for more than a microsecond

  • @bonce
    @bonce Год назад +6

    I've got one of these, they are marvelous! :) Mine is the GB04 variant (there are a few different boards used in these). I've taken a few sources of cat printer code that's out and about for this and made up a little local webpage from it on my network that prints markdown through a raspberry pi. Once you get through the device defined commands it needs for wrapping the data it's very normal to communicate to.

  • @hectorpascal
    @hectorpascal Год назад +1

    Looks quite well engineered - unlike many of the items Clive chooses to analyse!

  • @DaleyKreations
    @DaleyKreations Год назад +4

    I have one of these and it makes a very handy label printer. Particularly as it can print QR codes - I'm using it to organize our shop inventory, tools etc

  • @BlacksmithGen
    @BlacksmithGen Год назад +10

    I use one of these for DND it's great to be able to print spells out and things to give players

    • @rickyrico80
      @rickyrico80 Год назад +7

      This is about the most nerdy usage possible and I love it 🤣

    • @jexom
      @jexom Год назад +1

      You just convinced me that I as a fellow DM now need one

    • @BlacksmithGen
      @BlacksmithGen Год назад

      @@jexom awesome, I generally just do a long screen shot of the spell out what ever and print that. It's super handy. Plus my players like hearing it hum from behind the screen. Oh I have also printed monster stat blocks for complicated combat and NPC info for the players and maps. Ok I use it all the time 😆

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi Год назад +169

    I think this might actually be the first video I've seen on this channel where you had to blur out a portion

    • @stepheneyles2198
      @stepheneyles2198 Год назад +37

      That's about the only editing BC does!! Except the "One moment please" pauses while things are dissected off-camera! But we love that simplicity, keep it up BC!

    • @dolbyman
      @dolbyman Год назад +53

      Either a lewd app or background picture .. or he is actually using a secret app for MI6 .. we will never know :)

    • @midnightzathras6870
      @midnightzathras6870 Год назад

      It was his OnlyBears app. ®️

    • @Mikosyko
      @Mikosyko Год назад +24

      The Sodastream app 😊

    • @whompronnie
      @whompronnie Год назад +28

      Meanwhile Ben Heck posted a video of his mom's phone number. *Big oof.*

  • @user-qf6yt3id3w
    @user-qf6yt3id3w Год назад +6

    Looking it up it looks like those thermal printer heads look like a serial in, parallel out shift register. So you shift the data in and then fire a strobe to connect the shift register outputs to transistors which drive the thermal elements. Or, actually, several strobes covering different parts of the line, probably because driving them all at once would take too much current.

  • @TheHexCube
    @TheHexCube Год назад +4

    Thanks Big Clive! I bought this one and then a high quality one a while ago. I love them! (The high quality one can print really solid blacks, sounds a lot smoother/quieter, and has a metal cutter). Again, I love them, and I find them really useful. The rolls of receipt paper come in big box quantities and are really inexpensive.

    • @GizmoTheGreen
      @GizmoTheGreen Год назад

      whats a high quality one? a different model or an actual brand one?

    • @TheHexCube
      @TheHexCube Год назад

      @@GizmoTheGreen 'Paperang P2' - different brand.

  • @john_barnett
    @john_barnett Год назад +1

    Very surprised how well built and engineered this little thing was

  • @amorphuc
    @amorphuc Год назад +43

    I'm actually considering it as it looks like it could be kind of handy. There are some options that include white and colored types of paper as well as some self adhesive thermal paper for it.
    As always thanks again Big Clive.

    • @richardbanks2669
      @richardbanks2669 Год назад +9

      I have one, can confirm it prints nicely onto sticker roll, but they're very fiddly to split apart to peel the backing off! Works well for printing shipping labels

    • @Xeno274
      @Xeno274 Год назад +5

      Just be careful regarding BPA/BPS thermal papers…

    • @dh2032
      @dh2032 Год назад +2

      @@richardbanks2669 will it just work as printer, if has some sort of Bluetooth printing ability, or are stuck using app that big Clive , demonstrated ideally if windows could USB or Bluetooth , out documents to it as just a printer??

    • @dh2032
      @dh2032 Год назад +1

      @@Xeno274 what BPA/BPS ? on thermal paper?

    • @paulharker7184
      @paulharker7184 Год назад +2

      @@richardbanks2669 - To get the sticker backing off, use a craft knife to fray an edge. You can then easily peel them apart.

  • @ottopartz1
    @ottopartz1 Год назад +11

    I got a Bluetooth label printer for doing shipping labels right from my phone and I've been really impressed with it considering that it's not that much bigger than the rolls that it prints from. Now im wondering how much of the insides are just ballast weight to keep it from sliding around.

  • @ame7165
    @ame7165 Год назад +37

    challenge for someone: make a persistence of motion display with that print head. have it spin and you should be able to see the image through a thermal camera. I'm curious if the update rate is fast enough for that to work due to the thermal lag, though I guess they probably concentrated the heat into a very fine and insulated section

    • @satibel
      @satibel Год назад +9

      given the print speed it probably wouldn't work, though with thermochromic paint and the head slowly rotating it would be interesting.
      edit: if it's spinning it would be cooling fairly well so it might actually work.

    • @ame7165
      @ame7165 Год назад

      @@satibel i didn't actually see the part where he printed, but it makes sense for it to be slow. also good point about the air flow cooling it when spinning

    • @idjtoal
      @idjtoal Год назад

      @@ame7165 00:35 for that

    • @untildawncrepes
      @untildawncrepes Год назад +5

      Someone is going to have a version of Bad Apple running on it in no time

    • @alejandroalzatesanchez
      @alejandroalzatesanchez Год назад +5

      ask a bored engineer they'll anything when bored XD

  • @vacumedballs
    @vacumedballs Год назад +9

    I wonder if you'd be able to use your thermal camera and see the thermal printhead operating like a KITT scanner whilst printing

  • @keithfarrell3370
    @keithfarrell3370 Год назад +2

    Ahh the trusty thermal print head. Reminds me when i were a lad repairing fax machines.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад +1

    Very nice simple laser printer my wife has a couple of these there just square and blue for creating labels for her garden they do work well being a Bluetooth setup

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Год назад +4

    I have a Citizen-branded serial printer for Commodore 64 & VIC20 computers, it's basically a repurposed receipt printer too, though a dot-matrix impact type versus thermal, and comparing all the discrete components inside it to this, miniaturisation is quite amazing, even the printer module itself is microscopic compared to the Citizen... :P

  • @pauldzim
    @pauldzim Год назад

    So a Poke is an old-timey bag. I learned something today, thanks Clive!

  • @greenaum
    @greenaum Год назад +2

    A ZX Printer would be smaller! Have to work on knocking up a Bluetooth adaptor for it, Clive. They're not even complex, just a couple of pins, two drive the motor, fast or slow, which does horizontal AND vertical movement (in a slightly diagonal line, good ol' Clive Sinclair). One emits the spark. One reads in the rotary encoder, 256 per row I think just like the resolution, plus a bit more round the edges probably. And that's about it.
    Wire that up to your favourite PIC, or else get an ESP or something with Bluetooth on it. Boost convertor for the voltage, from a lithium, nice charger circuit, Bob's yer uncle!

  • @bahmad5811
    @bahmad5811 Год назад +4

    The print mechanism looks really similar to the printers in the hand held Bank Card Payment machines. They take similar size print roll.

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics Год назад +2

    How cute! I'd name it Temmie or something.
    Simple as it gets, nice to discombobulate.
    I wouldn't count on complete reverse-engineering here, not in case you've got a 4-layer board with signals buried in the inner layers. At least there's none of that BGA rubbish.
    Nice print head construction. I keep learning new things every day :).

  • @steve64464
    @steve64464 Год назад +4

    Least their paper rolls don't use DRM RFID chips in em , Maybe people start using these to print their receipts soon.

  • @threeMetreJim
    @threeMetreJim Год назад +1

    Excellent for printing all day tickets for public transport for the hackster kids. Just pre-prepare the backing design on some sticky printer paper, or raid the skips of the transport place (bus/tram station) for end of rolls.

  • @11danzizzle11
    @11danzizzle11 10 месяцев назад

    I have a small PeriPage printer I bought a while back to use for scrapbooking and labeling various things. It was fun to use, but got much more use after I found out about all the different types of "paper" it can use, like translucent, transparent, and blue/pink/red on white paper. It's a good bit of fun for arts and crafts or even just labeling stuff around your house.

  • @peterevenhuis2663
    @peterevenhuis2663 Год назад +1

    The blurred part proof's the Clive is a secret service agent, hahaha. Clive love the video

  • @CanizaM
    @CanizaM Год назад +2

    JL (ZhuHai JieLi) might be one of the biggest manufacturers of Bluetooth SoCs. They are also known for the infamous "The Bluetooth Device Is Connected Successfully" voice prompts on their speaker products.

  • @repairdroid77
    @repairdroid77 9 месяцев назад

    A bit of tech trivia. The ribbon cable connector is called a ZIF connector.
    Zero Insertion Force. They either have a flip up/down retainer or a sliding type. As the name implies when the retainer is in the open position it takes no force to insert the cable into the contacts.

  • @Blinkerd00d
    @Blinkerd00d 4 месяца назад

    I use this (the non-cartoon looking version) printer almost everyday. I use it to label concrete test samples made in the field. It uses the same app. It's extremely reliable.

  • @paulharker7184
    @paulharker7184 Год назад +8

    I find that you get much higher print quality from the sticker paper than the cheapo, thin receipt paper. Much darker blacks. I break photos down to strips (usually diagonal) in Photoshop and print each strip on a different colour paper. The only problem is that the print head overheats on really long images.

    • @GizmoTheGreen
      @GizmoTheGreen Год назад

      opposite for me. I got darker blacks on the normal paper, sticker paper much lighter. though it -may- have something to do with current charge. I noticed while doing some stickers (10 copies) that it slowly got lighter and lighter.

  • @dustymiller1813
    @dustymiller1813 Год назад

    The 'toy' printer strip-down was brilliant. Thanks

  • @piconano
    @piconano Год назад +1

    Engineering work of art!
    Amazing times we live in...

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад +1

    Very well setup and made Chip very nice

  • @robinhandelman9228
    @robinhandelman9228 Год назад +2

    Another great video Clive. It looks as though there is a model that does an 80mm roll and stickers that boasts a 2200mah battery (on Amazon). My bet is that is where the extra parts are installed, (as well as the extra price). The bigger printer is $78 US while it's little cousin is $26 US.
    RAH

  • @crazyhans
    @crazyhans Год назад

    First time seeing something I own on Clive's bench, it's a roller-coaster of emotion.

  • @majdnemkocka
    @majdnemkocka 6 месяцев назад

    The IR sensor can also be used to detect the labels on those rolls that have individual pre-cut stickers (for price labels etc) on them, so the printer knows when to start.

  • @jackwood8307
    @jackwood8307 Год назад

    Thanks for making the electronic world easier to understand! ❤

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. Год назад +1

    Oh I have one of these, they’re fun at parties and handy for printing lists and receipts.

    • @nyetloki
      @nyetloki Год назад

      What kinda parties

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. Год назад

      MY kinda parties@@nyetloki

  • @joegroom3195
    @joegroom3195 Год назад

    Interesting that you did a teardown on this. I just got the exact same model a couple of weeks ago to mess around with. Neat little printer. Thanks for the video!

  • @squelchstuff
    @squelchstuff Год назад +1

    What a fun little gadget! I'm contemplating the hackability of the mechanism. Fist thought - Part of an old fashioned fortune telling booth re-imagined.

    • @gergoo_ic
      @gergoo_ic 10 месяцев назад +1

      I did a really similar thing this Halloween. You don't have to modify the printer at all, you can connect to it with BLE and send whatever you want

  • @sidewinder15599
    @sidewinder15599 Год назад

    I love my mini printer! I use it to print on thermal sticker paper quite a lot for larger labels, diagrams, instructions, and the odd sticker bombing.

  • @Trueo9re
    @Trueo9re Год назад +5

    I have a larger thermal printer, about 110mm width one. Not bad for printing postal labels. I find it really handy.

    • @satyris410
      @satyris410 Год назад

      oh genius. sold me on the idea. now just need one to appear on amazon vine

    • @Trueo9re
      @Trueo9re Год назад

      @@satyris410 If you're not fussed about the quality of the thermal paper. I would recommend you get one that takes common width thermal till receipts. You can buy those and make smaller rolls to fit in the printer. I have 6 rolls of the 110mm paper and that will last me a lifetime. Some thermal printers have paper that only fits their machine so you have to buy their make. You can also play about with the sizes too, ie I can print portrait or landscape on mine and you get 2 different sized prints from the same sized paper. Also thermal prints fade, and doubley so if you expose the paper to sunlight. They last longer if you don't put them in direct sunlight or overtime the picture fades.

  • @WelshMullet
    @WelshMullet Год назад +1

    I saw one of these that combined a camera. I was tempted, seems like the gameboy camera and printer of old

  • @SueBobChicVid
    @SueBobChicVid Год назад +13

    The Chinese apps you must install for things like this always make me suspicious.

    • @stepheneyles2198
      @stepheneyles2198 Год назад

      Best thing to do is keep an old but working phone handy (keep WiFi off!) just to run the printer!

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd Год назад

      The worst products don't even have a stand-alone app but a WeChat plug-in as their app. So one must use WeChat to control the device.

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Год назад +1

      To be honest.
      These concerns are quite the double standard considering pretty much all big brand apps spy anyway.
      It's not like the app is running when not in use.
      It also does not have any need for important account information.

    • @InsideAlan
      @InsideAlan Год назад +1

      ​doesn't have the need for it but requests it as standard...

    • @LookAlikeFilm
      @LookAlikeFilm Год назад +1

      Prints images AND uploads the entire contents of your storage directly to the Chinese government!

  • @Tom_-
    @Tom_- 10 месяцев назад

    This is giving me big Game Boy camera and printer vibes. Looks like a nice novelty.

  • @daudzoss7628
    @daudzoss7628 Год назад +3

    Great teardown and analysis. Is the 2301A PMOSFET symbol drawn flipped by chance? The drain typically goes to the power input side, and the source+bulk to the protected device. As drawn, the intrinsic diode would be pointing away from the intended direction of current flow, and would turn on when power polarity was reversed, not very protectively.

  • @Richie_
    @Richie_ Год назад

    I bought similar for printing labels for component storage drawers. Handy.

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx666 Год назад +3

    I think there's a chance that you could cut a slot in the back of that printer and feed the paper from a big roll through it. There doesn't seem to be anything in the way, the only thing that would be needed is some container to hold the new roll. 🤔

  • @charlesxix
    @charlesxix Год назад

    This reminded me of the ZX Spectrum days with a thermal printer.

  • @theresarenee
    @theresarenee Год назад

    Wow a mini printer...guess that what being used in gas pumps...to print gas receipt in which has more chips to read/exchange data since no bt .. interesting. Just love your videos and voice.

  • @Mueller3D
    @Mueller3D Год назад +2

    Interesting; I have what appears to be the same printer externally, but the PCB and chip are very different. Also uses 3 AAA cells, probably NiMH.

  • @LabArlyn
    @LabArlyn Год назад

    This printer looks so cuteee 🍓💗
    And very good result for its price. Making me want to buy it 🍓

  • @Fusako8
    @Fusako8 Год назад

    I have a less kiddified version of one of these. I use it for printing receipts on the go, as well as writing notes to my future self. Notes like "Hey idiot, don't forget to unload the ladder from the back of your car, you knob."

  • @trafficface
    @trafficface 8 дней назад

    I sculpt with clay on my sofa at night, and these printers are ideal for my sketchbook, generally diagrams of proportions

  • @wisher21uk
    @wisher21uk Год назад

    Clever little gadget thanks Clive 😊

  • @danbrit9848
    @danbrit9848 Год назад

    you are amazing not only always inspire me but find such cool things ...have you seen the people making pocket PCs ...thay will love this thing i bet ...i know i want to buy one and try to do so

  • @labiadh_chokri
    @labiadh_chokri Год назад +1

    Nice teardown, with custom firmware we can use it as curve tracer or temperature logger.

  • @outaspaceman
    @outaspaceman 7 месяцев назад

    The moment saw these (way back) I got two they’re great for ticketing…
    I’ve a different version now that can print stickers..👍

  • @gooddesign9991
    @gooddesign9991 Год назад

    finally i've found you again!
    been lost in youtube home section..

  • @tlhIngan
    @tlhIngan Год назад

    The simplicity is why they're popular - though the biggest metric for these printers is speed - the ones at the cash registers are designed to print very fast - inches per second which is why they can spit out your receipt in a couple of seconds even though it's anywhere from a foot to a mile long. But they're cheap to make and the simplicity means the person working the register can quickly change the roll when it runs out without needing to thread the paper around. They take a new roll, unspool a bit, open the lid, remove the old roll, and put the new roll in. Shut the lid which pushes the roller against the print head and it's done - paper changed in seconds. Older printers required you to thread the paper through slots, while newer (at least over a decode old) have the slot be where the lid opens so it's open, replace the roll, close and it's threaded and ready, you just rip off the leader and go. Because no one wants to wait for the cashier to waste time threading the paper while they're waiting in line.

  • @pangushk
    @pangushk Год назад +2

    Beware of all those BPA on all thermal paper! I have been noticing these devices for a few years, but BPA is the main reason that make me hesitate to buy one.

    • @NamelessSmile
      @NamelessSmile Год назад +3

      You'll be fine as long as you're not using it all day everyday

    • @jackpijjin4088
      @jackpijjin4088 Год назад

      ​@@NamelessSmileor eating it.

  • @alangarland8571
    @alangarland8571 Год назад +1

    The 1980's Sinclair home computers had a similar thermal printer option,
    It worked but wasn't useful for much.

  • @jkobain
    @jkobain Год назад +1

    03:21 - There's «MX06». There exist several variations of these devices distinguished by these IDs.

  • @kev2020-z9s
    @kev2020-z9s Год назад +1

    I can remember thermal printer for the ZX81 it used a silvery coated paper I'm showing my age now the school had some ZX81 plus one printer.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Год назад +1

      It used a spark to burn the metalisation off the paper.

  • @paulcollins3725
    @paulcollins3725 Год назад

    Thanks for this Clive, based on the video, I bought 2 (each Grandkid) and they arrived today. Pretty cool indeed!

  • @weaselbox6746
    @weaselbox6746 10 месяцев назад

    i love it that you got the kitty thermal pocket printer!

  • @sshCode
    @sshCode 3 месяца назад

    So many ideas and opportunities with this and Bluetooth Web API. Future is here

  • @Tims_Projects
    @Tims_Projects Год назад +12

    On a side note. A good example of the opposite to thermal paper is those "erasable ink" pens. The ink goes invisible/white when you use the eraser end of the pen.
    The eraser end of the pen is just causing friction to make heat, which turns the ink transparent/white.
    Don't let a written note with one of these pens get hot, the text will disappear haha.🤣

    • @xRepoUKx
      @xRepoUKx 11 месяцев назад +3

      Put it in a plastic bag (to avoid it getting wet) & put it in the freezer, the text will come back!

  • @coondogtheman
    @coondogtheman Год назад

    I have a few things like this. One is the Dymo label maker which prints on 1/4 inch strips. The second is the game boy printer which hooks to a game boy and can print things from games and the third thing I have is similar to what you have here but is made by paperang and uses 57mm receipt paper. I can buy the correct paper on amazon but I seemed to have bought a surplus of receipt paper so I shouldn't run out for a while. Printing images from the images on my phone produced interesting grainy black and white images.
    The printer you have is even simpler than mine. I took mine apart and the board is larger and the battery is in the opposite side and it has sensors galore. The Paperang printer uses 57mm paper which should be the same as yours.

  • @user-jt5vm3mi1w
    @user-jt5vm3mi1w 9 месяцев назад

    They work great for address label printers

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Год назад +2

    I'd like just a tiny one axis round punch or a laser printer making text by small perforations, on regular paper. Some banks used to punch void or received info with the date that way. Like a dozen holes per letter. It is very legible and that width for receipts would be fine.
    Not s fan of thermal paper due to its short lifespan.

  • @stephmaccormick3195
    @stephmaccormick3195 9 месяцев назад

    I had this with my ZX Spectrum back in early 1980s.

  • @randomergy683
    @randomergy683 Год назад +1

    I use something similar to this for making QR code labels for my petri dishes (: they're really neat

    • @randomoutcomes
      @randomoutcomes Год назад +2

      What kind of super intelligent AI bacteria are you growing in those dishes than can be communicated to via QR codes!

    • @randomergy683
      @randomergy683 Год назад +2

      @@randomoutcomes Shhhhhhhhhh. That part's a secret 😳

  • @qlue7881
    @qlue7881 Год назад

    It's a receipt printer that's been reimagined as a children's toy
    I've seen them advertised as a set with a matching camera

  • @watch666
    @watch666 Год назад

    Bought one of these a while ago to mess about with and always hoped you would do a video on it. Nice one BC 👍

  • @Alexander.Punguino_939
    @Alexander.Punguino_939 Год назад

    "A suitable screwdriver ".. (me getting ready the hammer) Demolition Man Style 😂

  • @marjon1703
    @marjon1703 Год назад

    That is the cutest receipt printer ever!

  • @-COBRA
    @-COBRA Год назад

    btw guys, if you buy these, look for one with 300dpi. older/ cheaper ones are 200dpi and the print quality difference is huge

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 Год назад

    It's amazing the economy of scale that has happened to these things. Curious if anybody else has experimented with rubbing alcohol and thermal paper, get some old receipts and have fun........ Then print off some new receipts and have more fun. packing labels can sometimes also be thermal.....

  • @GothGuy885
    @GothGuy885 Год назад +1

    inepensively made, but pretty advanced at that! 😀

  • @RonLaws
    @RonLaws Год назад

    the old Gameboy camera printer is also a tiny thermal printer, Ben heck also did a tear-down and reverse engineers it! it has a moving print head which is an interesting design difference