Fake Samsung charger with interesting circuitry

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @acmefixer1
    @acmefixer1 Год назад +747

    It really bothers me that any manufacturer would go to the trouble of deceiving the purchaser by adding weights to the device. Thanks, Clive.

    • @Ekriirke
      @Ekriirke Год назад +81

      This has been common forever

    • @j.f.christ8421
      @j.f.christ8421 Год назад +53

      Yah, lots of old PC keyboards had rather hefty weights in them to increase the quality. IBM, HP, Compaq etc. The manufacturers would claim it was to stop the keyboard from sliding around, but nah, Feel the quality!

    • @TheMrMarkW
      @TheMrMarkW Год назад +28

      Bang and Olufsen used to do this all the time to their remote controls. They always felt heavy due to the large block of metal inside them to weight them down.

    • @Alacritous
      @Alacritous Год назад +32

      @@j.f.christ8421 I liked that. I still buy mice with the adjustable weights because I like them to feel like I won't fling them across the room if I'm not paying attention. The IBM Model M 104 Key keyboard with the mouse nub was my favorite.

    • @PeTTs0n88
      @PeTTs0n88 Год назад +85

      Lol, people comparing ergonomic devices like mice or keyboards (where mass can alter the characteristics of the product) to power supplies.
      One is more scammy than the other.

  • @jameslmorehead
    @jameslmorehead Год назад +189

    I've designed this type of circuit for work. The SDC5091 is a saturation flyback driver IC. It has a depletion mode FET that ties the 2.2uF cap as a bootstrap supply. The IC also has a power MOSFET on pins 5-8. These normally have pin 1 and the bottom as ground. The IC turns on the MOSFET, charging the primary side of the flyback transformer. The opto-isolator triggers the IC to turn off the MOSFET when the core of the flyback reaches saturation. As the magnetic field collapses, it is forced into the secondary side, providing power to the output. When the core is no longer saturated and the output starts to dip, the opto-isolator turns off, triggering the IC to turn on the MOSFET again. The odd configuration of the freewheel/snubber circuit is because you want the primary side to be able to reach a highish voltage while the field collapses into the secondary, but not too high that it damages the MOSFET, or puts the body diode of the FET or MOSFET into conduction. This circuit could just be the resistor and capacitor, but there is a high likely hood of unwanted oscillations. So, the diode is added to eliminate any oscillation. It is common for this diode to be a power zener, or a TVS depending on input supply and flyback specs.

    • @mohinderkaur6671
      @mohinderkaur6671 Год назад +12

      Great explanation! Thanks!

    • @hibbs79
      @hibbs79 Год назад +23

      Obviously you are speaking Arabic as I understand none of this

    • @justsayen2024
      @justsayen2024 Год назад +1

      Funny that's what I was thinking😂

    • @alexdavies7112
      @alexdavies7112 Год назад +5

      Hey I know some of these words!

    • @regi3.1
      @regi3.1 Год назад +2

      This kind of a detailed technical explanation can only come from some who has More Head😁

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 Год назад +240

    Wow they didn't spare any expense here, they even added the metal fake weight. True quality right there

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Год назад +12

      And two bridge rectifiers, and not a single abused 1N4148! Still a noncompliant shock hazard with those transformers though, you need that triple insulated wire on the secondary side and flying secondary leads or a bobbin with an extended secondary side terminal strip to properly isolate a winding in a transformer that small.

    • @zebo-the-fat
      @zebo-the-fat Год назад +34

      not a metal fake weight... it's a real weight!

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 Год назад +10

      @@zebo-the-fat - It's a built-in load.

    • @sometimesleela5947
      @sometimesleela5947 Год назад +17

      Clive might want to give that weight a quick wisk with the geiger counter. I've found that 'easter eggs " like this tend to have a higher chance of being metal they wanted to get rid of anyway., possibly even getting reimbursed for its disposal in the process.

    • @abs_nobody
      @abs_nobody Год назад +1

      ... sum of its parts ...

  • @radioflyer2030
    @radioflyer2030 Год назад +76

    Hey Clive. rather than worrying about "plugging expensive devices" into "questionable" PD chargers, you might consider getting some cheap Power Delivery "decoy" boards. These things cost from a couple bucks each up to about fifteen for a fully programmable unit. The most basic ones spoof the PD charger for a single voltage and provide + & - measurement / connection points, slightly more advanced models have short-able pads to select the PD output voltage, and the most advanced modes cost around 15 bucks and use a push-button and colored LED system to program the output. So instead of risking any PD equipment, you can just decoy the different voltages, measure them with a meter & apply a load if you so desire.

    • @QBFreak
      @QBFreak Год назад +5

      I came here to say this. I have one QC trigger that has a button and LEDs on it to choose between four voltages, and came with the option of USB, screw terminals, or barrel jack for output. And I have several others that are just USB-C cables with barrel plugs on the other end that each operated at a fixed voltage. I think there's also some PD trigger stuff in the my drawer too, but I can't remember now. Aliexpress has plenty of choices, which makes me think eBay will too.

    • @acmefixer1
      @acmefixer1 Год назад +1

      Clive already has a variable load to test USB chargers.

    • @radioflyer2030
      @radioflyer2030 Год назад +6

      @@acmefixer1 Uuhhhhhh.... a decoy board is NOT a load...!!! A decoy board simulates an actual device by negotiating the voltage that the charger will provide... as low as 5 volts for run of the mill USB devices, all the way up to 20 volts for laptops & other high power devices. Extremely useful to have in your kit. The USB test load plugs into the decoy to test if the PD charger can deliver it's ratings.

    • @ziginox
      @ziginox Год назад

      There are also newer USB volt/amp meters that can act as PD triggers (as well as querying the supply and informing the user of what it supports) like the FN58/FNB58. Might not be a bad time for Clive to upgrade from the old Ruideng meter.

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi Год назад +143

    I don't know which one I hate more, this one or the one DiodeGoneWild took apart with an LED voltmeter inside. With a display that uses two wires. Because it only ever displays 5.1V.

    • @j.f.christ8421
      @j.f.christ8421 Год назад +18

      The fake volt meter was awesome.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 Год назад +10

      The DiodeGoneWild one showed 5.2V no matter what the voltage was, it was just LED segments lit up to a power source. I think that charger didn't supply the full output current either, as well as having various electrical issues (e.g. missing fuse/interference suppression/safety capacitor being 1kV only/transformer with no isolation etc etc).

    • @tubastuff
      @tubastuff Год назад +10

      @@TheSpotify95 Reminds me of the speed indicator LED displays on some old PCs. Didn't measure a thing, just switched between two hardwired 7 segment displays, depending on the level of the "turbo" line.

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf Год назад +9

      @@tubastuff I remember those, mine had jumpers on the back that could be changed to make it display whatever numbers you wanted.

    • @tubastuff
      @tubastuff Год назад +8

      @@uzlonewolf I jumpered mine to to show "Hi" and "LO"--I figured that was more honest. :)

  • @kevinjbakertribe
    @kevinjbakertribe Год назад +16

    The company I work for was selling some expensive kit to the CHAPS banking network in the mid 1980s (19" rack stuff, circa £20k each). Apparently the marketing director thought the kit was a bit light for that price so the demo unit had two house bricks added for "Improved value".....

  • @AltimeterAlligator
    @AltimeterAlligator Год назад +7

    False weight, you love to see it. I once opened a karaoke microphone and found a huge block of solder inside, dumped in there like chocolate inside an ice cream cone. That block of solder took up 80% of the internal space, and also acted as physical support for a small chip just floating around in the housing.

    • @mrfrenzy.
      @mrfrenzy. Год назад +3

      That's a nice bit of lead for the landfill...

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun Год назад +10

    FYI: The SDC5091 is acc. to one Aliexpress seller a 20W switching power supply PD fast charge chip.
    Oh and they only sell it in a pack of 4,000.

  • @youdontknowme5969
    @youdontknowme5969 Год назад +4

    A Chinese Watt must be around ⅔ of the rest of the world's Watt. 🙃

  • @Dennan
    @Dennan 11 месяцев назад +1

    i dont like how these scammers dirty the name of well respected companies.

  • @andrewsawesome
    @andrewsawesome Год назад +7

    You should tear apart those "polymer" capacitors and see if they really are polymer.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Год назад +1

      Yeah, At least one reliable brand of electrolytics look exactly the same .

  • @irpnet
    @irpnet Год назад +7

    I once bought a lamp from a Chinese manufacturer. Thinking it "felt" quality because of the weight, I took it to bits and also discovered a bar of steel. Once removed the item was featherweight. Funny how we associate weight with quality!

    • @AndrejaKostic
      @AndrejaKostic Год назад +1

      It really is funny. I've had a similar situation for a microphone of a Japanese radio transceiver (Icom HM-219). The microphone is actually quite good, but it has two weights on the inside. With the weights, to me, it feels much more solid in the hand. When I remove the weights, it feels like a piece of plastic junk.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 6 месяцев назад

      Lamp? If the weight was in the base, it was due to being higher quality than the same lamp would be without it. You don't want your lamp to too easily tip over or scoot around, so making it bottom heavy is the right design choice.

  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan5364 Год назад +7

    Skipped the transformer autopsy to see whether it falls in the good enough or death trap category. Dumping a chunk of steel into stuff to make it "feel higher quality" is a pretty common trick. I've even seen a review of a Chinese ATX PSU that used a concrete PFC transformer - just a wire cast in concrete.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Год назад +4

      You don't really need to unwind one that small, just the fact the secondary is plain magnet wire terminated on a regular bobbin is an instant DQ, it should be triple insulated wire terminated away from the windings.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 Год назад

      @@Broken_Yugo There are some transformers that don't have any isolation at all whatsoever...

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Год назад +2

      @@TheSpotify95 yes, there are different grades of shit, but it's still all shit. It doesn't matter if they actually used tape, you can't use enough of it with a core window that narrow, think of the winding near the edge, easy arc over the edge of the tape. The solution to that is "margin tape" but like I said, you won't have have room for a winding after installing it in a core that small. AFAIK TIW is the only way to actually make a safe (i.e. approved) one that small, and it's easy to visually ID that thicker usually yellow insulated wire coming out of the transformer.

  • @Alfadrottning86
    @Alfadrottning86 Год назад +2

    Does Samsung even make chargers with multiple outlets? most of my devices are Samsung and i have never seen a charger that allows you to charge more than one device (except their wireless pads)

  • @adamholmes91
    @adamholmes91 Год назад +65

    If that was priced correctly (£1-2) it would just be a fake. But because they charge £15 it would be classed as counterfeit.

    • @dgwdgw
      @dgwdgw Год назад +25

      Because they charge £15 _and print "SAMSUNG" on the label_

    • @Iwishiwasflying
      @Iwishiwasflying Год назад +2

      @@dgwdgwwould it not be the case of a product is purporting to be “Samsung” hence counterfeit. Samsung also has legal rights to pursue due to said product claiming to be genuine.

    • @tomr6955
      @tomr6955 Год назад +1

      @@Iwishiwasflying good luck to them. You do know the Chinese don't know the meanin of copyright? There are millions (probably billions) of fake Samsung chargers like these.

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus Год назад +1

      No, both would be fake, regardless of the price. Because they slapped the Samsung logo on there, it is a counterfeit.

  • @rounakr94
    @rounakr94 Год назад +2

    Yess, all hail Chamchung 😂 I also bought one from the local store and once I connected it poof it went 😅

  • @rallystar555
    @rallystar555 Год назад +5

    I remember back when most electronic devices had lead weights added to give the illusion of quality.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 Год назад +4

      With RoHS, they've had to improve their products and use _steel_ weights instead.

    • @Derek_Garnham
      @Derek_Garnham Год назад +4

      I know it was done with cameras, but the weight was kind of functional as an anti shake device.

    • @gs425
      @gs425 Год назад +1

      It'd the sort of sneaky Jerry trick that thst crook Alan Sugar used to do in his shite products

  • @Gameboygenius
    @Gameboygenius Год назад +21

    Some of those USB testers can exhaustively check all power standards. I'd be curious to know if this supply actually communicates over any of those standards or if the chips are just dummy chips. (Stranger things have happened.)

  • @disophisis
    @disophisis Год назад +1

    "Quality Feel Lump of Steel" would be a good t-shirt

  • @standardman6535
    @standardman6535 Год назад

    when someone says "i know a guy who knows a guy who knows electronics", this is that guy

  • @morelenmir
    @morelenmir Год назад +1

    The fact it has the capability to negotiate voltages makes me even *more* wary of this thing! It is a perfectly fine piece of functionality if it works, but... IF...
    I would not want 16v shunting into my Kindle or rechargeable headset thank you very much!

  • @Grid56
    @Grid56 6 месяцев назад

    I like how the "steel bar of power" hadn't even had its sticky surface revealed. The Chinese time and motion guy saved a full half second there !😂

  • @dennislarsson1723
    @dennislarsson1723 9 месяцев назад

    A few years ago I built a plastic injection mold for the end caps of a high power power amplifier for Pioneer. In each end cap was clip features to hold a section of concrete reinforcing rebar. Pioneer stated that the customer wants to feel the weight as they don't believe a lightweight power amp develops any substantial power. Heavy sells!

  • @piconano
    @piconano Год назад +5

    I very much doubt it can deliver 65W, or even 20W for that matter.
    look at those cute tiny transformers! Max 2A each?
    It's not a Samsung, it's a Samsong.

  • @jobblejosh9713
    @jobblejosh9713 Год назад +2

    Ah yes, the Vice of Knowledge. My favourite tool.

    • @zebo-the-fat
      @zebo-the-fat Год назад

      Don't forget the big hammer of truth!

  • @tullgutten
    @tullgutten Год назад +2

    I bought an rather expensive but great USB tester, FNIRSI FNB48P and it goes from 3.8v (0v if connect extra micro usb for just the tester) to 24v and 0 to 6.5Amps.
    It can check the charger and cable for every fast charge ability, and also it can force quick charge voltages for any voltage you want then you can test the amp load on the usb c or a output.
    It also shows voltage ripple graph/oscilloscope down to 3.1 uS and 1mV
    Can estimate calculate charged current to a 3.6v lipo battery, and is actually within 5% from factory (can adjust conversion efficiency on it for the calculation)
    I love it and it have revealed one super fake charger

  • @SqualidsargeStudios
    @SqualidsargeStudios Год назад +1

    Smasnug should figure out who is manufacturing these things and sue them into bankruptcy

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur Год назад

      They could spend all their time and money doing that. There are dozens of places making knockoff Samsung phones and chargers etc.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Год назад

      ​@@SashazurThey could have a separate team of bounty hunters funded mostly by the lawsuit profits .

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 4 месяца назад

      You think the Chinese court would side with a Korean company over their own subsidized company operating in China? The answer to that would be a big no.

  • @KasparRottschaefer
    @KasparRottschaefer Год назад

    You have the Perfect Voice for potcasts

  • @veraxis9961
    @veraxis9961 Год назад

    Now I have your "Cheap sh!tty pink USB charger from China song" stuck in my head. Going to have to listen to that again.

  • @AnoraJohnson
    @AnoraJohnson 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your power plugs in the UK are great. In the US, a heavier charger box leans away from the wall and eventually exposes the prongs.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 4 месяца назад

      Why would you be plugging them into a wall in the first place? Multi-outlet power strip FTW! I can't recall the last time I actually plugged one straight into a wall outlet.

    • @AnoraJohnson
      @AnoraJohnson 4 месяца назад

      @@stinkycheese804 Power strips plug in and hang from the wall too, though.
      Also, power strips and extension cords don't solve every problem. I watched a space heater that was powered off spontaneously break out into flames while plugged into an extension cord.

  • @SolderBrothers
    @SolderBrothers Год назад

    I just love your channel through explanation and circuit description.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Год назад +1

    It's nice when they include a lump of genuine chinesium for the high qualities weighting... :P

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 Год назад +5

    Just note, I tested a cheap charger a few years ago, and found that a Chinese amp is equal to ~1/3 of an amp, in the rest of the world.
    From one of the Jurassic Park films, when the Jeff Goldblum character sees his kid handling a piece of equipment, He asks, "Is it heavy". The kid answers, "yes", He replies, "then its expensive, put it down". I think the "sacrificial" lawyer has similar interaction, in the first movie.

  • @keithking1985
    @keithking1985 Год назад +2

    I found a lump of high quality steel in a charger when I was opening "everything" when I 1st started learning electronics. I thought it was a loose heat sink at 1st till I picked it up. That looks like they didn't skimp on parts.

  • @fookingsog
    @fookingsog Год назад +7

    I'm no USB charger expert, but my 3rd party "Go-To" for chargers and charge cords has consistently been the "Anker" brand!!!...and they seem to always be coming to market with improved charging technology and circuitry!!! I can't say I've ever been disappointed with one of their charging products I've purchased!!!

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 Год назад +1

      Yeah I've got a 2 port Anker charger - 5V 2.1A per port - and it seems to work well enough. I also have a 2 port charger from LIDL supermarkets which also works well, with the Type C outlet doing fast charging as well.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur Год назад +2

      I also mainly buy Anker brand.

    • @neiltonks4627
      @neiltonks4627 Год назад +1

      Yes I use those too. They always charge at an acceptable rate and don’t get hot in the process!

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Год назад

      They are well manufactured and come at reasonable prices.
      The internals look well designed as weol

    • @baqcasanke
      @baqcasanke 10 месяцев назад

      Ive tested my anker power bank with usb power meter and the charge circuitry seems very advanced. It def regulates and changes power based on device and battery charge.

  • @ZacabebOTG
    @ZacabebOTG Год назад

    You need to get one of those fancy molten hairdryers so that you can make an autopsy of the transformers.

  • @chaython
    @chaython Год назад +1

    There's a lot more components than I was expecting.

  • @fattomandeibu
    @fattomandeibu Год назад +1

    To be fair to the random lump of metal, I've got a few things(every remote I own, and a few computer mouses) that would be improved immeasurably by the addition of a lump of metal.
    Of course, there's a difference between a lump of metal just randomly in a power supply that might possibly lead to undesirable operation and a lump of metal to improve the feel when used.

  • @lightcapmath2777
    @lightcapmath2777 Год назад

    Such clarity showing falsity...Big C... you ROCK! .. across the pond.. DVD:)

  • @nowster
    @nowster Год назад +3

    It might be interesting to look inside one of the recent chargers from Lidl.

  • @XxmetalHeadxX88
    @XxmetalHeadxX88 Год назад +1

    I remember vwestlife made a video on fake counterfeit chargers a long time ago. He connected the charger to a camera, and the fake charger was causing radio interference.

  • @tubaman66
    @tubaman66 Год назад +1

    Not usually a good sign when they've had to add the "feel the quality, feel the weight" lump of metal. 🤣

  • @terrym1065
    @terrym1065 Год назад

    Watt or Whaaaatt? Yeah, you just never know. Thanks Clive for throwing some light on this.

  • @graemedavidson499
    @graemedavidson499 Год назад +2

    Over a decade ago I had a knock-off Dell laptop charger come in for repair, similarly weighted down with a steel plate to give the illusion of quality. It was duly disposed of…

    • @QBFreak
      @QBFreak Год назад +1

      At least that long ago, I did desktop PC support for an organization that used all Dell equipment. I remember dismantling one of the slightly nicer mice and finding a weight in it. In that particular case it made sense though, I found the heavier mice easier to handle than the new ones they were shipping us that weighed nothing.
      The idea of a metal weight floating around loose inside a SMPS is terrifying.

  • @yorinov2001
    @yorinov2001 Год назад

    when Texas Instruments first came out with their high end highest priced calculators ($200 to $300 in the '80s) they put steel weights in them too. the calculators themselves were designed well but much lighter without the weights than older style, much cheaper, calculators.

  • @Banat0
    @Banat0 Год назад +1

    You should get one of those usb power delivery triggers to test such things safely

  • @KeepEvery1Guessing
    @KeepEvery1Guessing Год назад +5

    It sounds like it's time for an improved USB power tester that can negotiate various voltages for test under load.

  • @grimlicentia
    @grimlicentia Год назад +1

    My guess is that this is a chip manufacturer for samsung products and they are selling their own "copy" on the side. Which may explain why it's hard to find documentation.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 6 месяцев назад

      No need to, there's a wealth of existing tech for SMPS so no real need to copy samsung especially if they wish to alter the circuit to a lower price point. Remember, it's China, if they want to make a custom IC to do an exact thing like this, they can, and produce it dirt cheap as well, It's just not sophisticated enough tech to need to rip IP off of anyone else to do it.

  • @ziginox
    @ziginox 10 месяцев назад

    Clive, coming back to this video now that I know a bit more about things...
    The reason the feedback circuit doesn't just flip in different resistances is so the supply can vary the output voltage as the device requests, via the Programmable Power Supply (PPS) feature added in the USB PD 3.0 spec. The idea is optimizing the input voltage to best charge the battery.
    As for the two independent supplies, this makes sure one of the outputs can supply max wattage, while the other two are splitting up the wattage capability of the other supply. The other two ports have to be at the same voltage, and if you connect something, the other port will temporarily shut off while it re-negotiates. There's definitely some excess duplication, though, and no way can this do 65W.
    As for not wanting to plug expensive devices in, there are newer USB testers that can query and negotiate with PD and QC2.0/3.0 supplies. It's great for seeing what they support, and triggering the higher voltages to feed into a load tester. I personally like my FNB58, but there are other options on the market.

  • @NiSE_Rafter
    @NiSE_Rafter Год назад

    The fact that the packaging has the old samsung logo already makes me suspicious. They stopped using the oval like a decade ago

  • @willj1927
    @willj1927 Год назад

    Somebody should compile all Clive’s schematics into ‘Big Clive’s Book of Revelations’

  • @kelly4187
    @kelly4187 Год назад +1

    This sort of stuff is why I use apps and extensions like Cultivate to let me see where the product is from.
    If it’s from China, I scroll on. No way I’m letting my house burn down because of chinesium charger.

  • @stepheneyles2198
    @stepheneyles2198 Год назад +5

    I've come across weights like that inside the plastic 'pull cord' things used for window blinds. Maybe they had too many of them left in the factory and needed to get rid of them!

  • @kthwkr
    @kthwkr Год назад +1

    Years ago I got an Sandisk SD card that was fake. But not only did it work at the advertised size but it also ran just a little faster than the real Sandisk.

  • @Lakeman3211
    @Lakeman3211 Год назад

    The perception of quality thru pure weight of the overall component has been a mainstay of the devices presented from Asian sources for some time now….amazing that the product should require such an “upgrade” to impress the end user!

  • @davidroberts5090
    @davidroberts5090 Год назад

    Watching Fran trying to open a Sinclair portable television yesterday makes me appreciate the odd One Moment Please from Clive for a destructive disassembly...

  • @alexoja2918
    @alexoja2918 Год назад +1

    I would solder the steel blob as a resistor or attach it to a transistor as a heatsink. That way it would just be a very good component.

  • @ElvenSpellmaker
    @ElvenSpellmaker Год назад +12

    I've noticed OnePlus chargers give a massive shock if you accidentally touch the pins after unplugging so I assume (it'd be cool if you could tear one down) they have no discharge capacitor to stop the shock.
    I've been shocked a few times by it and it's quite a shock!
    Which means first party isn't always the safest or nicest chargers around.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Год назад +9

      That means they bothered to install an across the line interference capacitor (great!) but no shock prevention bleeder resistor, which is not great, but that probably won't kill anyone.

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Год назад +2

      Id suspect a faulty model.
      Never had that kind of issue but then again it has been a while using this brand

    • @LeePorte
      @LeePorte Год назад

      Apple laptop chargers have done that for the past 12 years. Cheap ass bastards

    • @arcticfox037
      @arcticfox037 Год назад

      Never had this issue with my realme charger; 65W charger right? 10V 6.5A?

  • @Anth369
    @Anth369 Год назад

    Almost at 1 million subs! Well done.

  • @LotosHans
    @LotosHans Год назад +2

    I bought several ikea chargers thanks to your videos!
    Maybe you could also tear down the IKEA ÅSKSTORM charger. It has the same form factor as their other 3 port charger but instead has 1 USB A and one USB C PD3 port. Could be interesting to compare them.
    I also got Ikeas new Power Bank, might be interesting to tear that down as well and see if the quality is as good as with their chargers.

    • @victorandersson9737
      @victorandersson9737 Год назад

      Åskstorm has in fact 2 USB A and one USB C Ports. But I agree, that it would be nice to see a test!

    • @LotosHans
      @LotosHans Год назад +2

      @@victorandersson9737 there are 2 different askstorm chargers. The 40w is much larger and has 2 usb a ports, the 23w only one

    • @victorandersson9737
      @victorandersson9737 Год назад

      @@LotosHans Yes, checked there Web and you are right! The version I bought have 3, but there is a smaller version wit 2!

  • @tomr6955
    @tomr6955 Год назад +1

    Plot twist the tester and load simulator is also fake :P

  • @albear972
    @albear972 Год назад +1

    And the icing on the cake is that that thing doesn't have a *real* ground, sorry, earth. Hope you discharged the capacitors. Even those small ones pack a punch. 🐻

    • @brucepickess8097
      @brucepickess8097 Год назад

      Class 2 double insulated adapter, doesn't need to be earthed/grounded.

  • @webdevvy
    @webdevvy Год назад +2

    I know you like to take apart crap you find on ebay and the like. But I would love to donate for a teardown of brands like "anker" or "ugreen" etc to see what is under the hood and how they stack up.

  • @RichardSchuldt
    @RichardSchuldt Год назад

    Always a good day when the Vice-of-Knowledge comes out to play!

  • @thomasglessner6067
    @thomasglessner6067 Год назад

    26 grams additional mass makes the end user feel the quality. Great video.

  • @PinkAgaricus
    @PinkAgaricus 6 месяцев назад

    Also, official chargers would usually come in a sale hanging box package, even if you order it online. Usually, through the Amazon website from the Samsung storefront there.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 6 месяцев назад

      It's not that simple. Aside from retail packaged product, they have had chargers to bundle with products and will have excess stock once the warranty is over for a generation of product. The question is then what happens to that stock. I'd bought white box major brand products several times over the years, as well as samsung phones that had chargers just in a little plastic baggie.

  • @GregorWSky
    @GregorWSky Год назад +2

    I wish there was a way to test and evaluate my chargers without breaking them open

  • @nexpro6985
    @nexpro6985 Год назад +2

    Fraud in a smart looking suit.

  • @dennis8196
    @dennis8196 Год назад

    Uses Murphy's hammer to unscrew the case. Classic!

  • @VintageSG
    @VintageSG Год назад

    I used to have a handheld game player ( PSP!/MP5! 10,000 games! ) that was basically a Nintendo-onna-chip with a few support ICs to give FM radio, MP3 playback and ( limited ) video playback.
    It was surprisingly good for NES/SNES/GB/GBC/GBA emulation. The radio worked, with headphones, and MP3 playback was acceptable. Good battery life too. The screen was clear and bright.
    One day though, it failed to charge. 'Spicy pillow' was my first thought. Sure enough, the battery needed either Benadryl or Viking funeral. It got the latter. Nestled between the battery and back panel was a strip of heft adding steel. It didn't need it. It was a good product at a keen price. I mackled a BL-5C clone battery in and got another years use from it before mislaying it somewhere.
    That strip of steel made me chuckle at the time. That it's still being done a decade or so later?, not quite so funny.

  • @informationwarlord
    @informationwarlord Год назад

    Bypass the cutout control and load it until the magic pixies escape.

  • @stephena2720
    @stephena2720 Год назад

    An Amazon special. Have tried to purchase these chargers multiple times from amazon and received at least 3 of these.

  • @Ard-War
    @Ard-War Год назад +1

    "6606" is most likely FP6606 USB PD controller or similar.

  • @Barbarapape
    @Barbarapape Год назад +1

    A clasic example of cheap or not so cheap fakes from China.
    The clue is in the multiple outputs, any genuine Samsung chargers that i have seen only have one Type C socket.

  • @ParkerBlank
    @ParkerBlank Год назад

    I have a transformer in an old stereo box that makes the damn thing so heavy it puts a microwave to shame.

  • @scottfirman
    @scottfirman Год назад +1

    I have seen weights in many cheap knock off electronics. The idea is to make it feel like the authentic brand. Its a crooked method but not a new practice. I remember buying a cheap Getto Blaster once that contained weights hot glued into it. That was back in the 80's. My guess is the chips you couldnt identify are also knock offs.

  • @mos8541
    @mos8541 Год назад +1

    Ok bro, you dont mock our good universal American "accent" ... "is it gonna come ooffff?"... and i wont keep impersonating SeanconneryCliveGerardbutlerEwanMacGregor saying im Irish.... hah!

  • @jsung90
    @jsung90 Год назад

    i fell asleep to this knowledgeable video cause the voice is too soothing..

  • @Pugwash.
    @Pugwash. Год назад +1

    Do you notify ebay of the dangerous deception or would that be a wasted effort?

  • @ricaflorin
    @ricaflorin Год назад +1

    Very nice fake reveal clip. Watching this an ideea come to my mind so I decide to ask you here.
    Those days I was looking into some 2 TB (even 16 TB) ssd memory stick from Aliexpress labeled as a Kingston/Samsung etc wich cost somewhere like 2 to 10 dollars something like this, some ridiculous cheap amount of money.
    So maybe you can have a look and crack down another fake brand labeled video in the near future. 😊

  • @binky_bun
    @binky_bun Год назад

    The vice of knowledge is back at last

  • @DJ_Cthulhu
    @DJ_Cthulhu Год назад

    Yep. The Ikea usb wall warts are my gold standard at the moment too 🖖

  • @barrieshepherd7694
    @barrieshepherd7694 Год назад +2

    It's suddenly struck me as an odd omission from our 'strict' electrical regulations. We cannot have an appliance connected by plug that does not have a suitable rated fuse in it to protect the cable but we can have an appliance plugged directly into a wall socket with no fuse protection other than the main circuit fuse.
    Maybe those who constantly work to invent new ways to frustrate us 'illegal' electricians and invent ever more ways to protect wiring, from events it does not necessarily need to be protected from, should address the matter of fusing of directly plugged in devices (and I include those USB chargers installed in wall plates).

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Год назад +3

      Properly designed wall warts do use a fuse or fusible resistor...

    • @barrieshepherd7694
      @barrieshepherd7694 Год назад

      @@Broken_Yugo Properly designed - yes but few (around my house at least) seem to be.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Год назад +1

      The first electrical component BC identified in this brick was a combined fuse and inrush limiter .

    • @barrieshepherd7694
      @barrieshepherd7694 Год назад

      My observation was about the general absence of user replaceable fuses in these types of components.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo Год назад +2

      ​@@barrieshepherd7694 Why care about that? I have never once in my life seen a blown fuse in a piece of mains powered consumer electronics that was actually the issue, always shorted parts in the power supply or some other serious fault that junks it anyway.

  • @brianjrichman
    @brianjrichman Год назад +1

    Sometimes it is worth paying the full RRP for something at the phone carrier's store...

  • @emolatur
    @emolatur Год назад

    6606ACA is FP6606ACA, a USB-PD controller. FP6606AC into google will bring up the datasheet, the 'A' suffix signifies 18W.

  • @sonixthatsme
    @sonixthatsme Год назад

    Haven't seen the vice of knowledge in a while, glad to see it is OK.

  • @thakyou5005
    @thakyou5005 Год назад

    I wish I could understand all this. I still like these things, thougb.

  • @LGNilsson
    @LGNilsson Год назад +2

    It's as if they tried to fake it being a GaN power adapter, that weighs a lot more than traditional chargers.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Год назад +1

      Why would more efficient semiconducters with less waste heat be heavier?

    • @j.f.christ8421
      @j.f.christ8421 Год назад

      @@johndododoe1411 Everyone knows weight = quality.

    • @LGNilsson
      @LGNilsson Год назад

      @@johndododoe1411 it's not the semiconductors themselves, but rather the fact that everything is more denstly packed and requires extra thermal dissipation (heatsinks) inside the GaN chargers which makes then heavier. Go have a look at a teardown of a 100 W GaN charger and compare it to a teardown of a traditional charger and you'll understand. You might save a third of the size, but none of the weight. As this is fake GaN charger, they added the metal lump to increase the weight to make it feel the same as a 65 W GaN charger.

  • @DelphiAmnestied
    @DelphiAmnestied Год назад

    Funny how Clive exposing another Chinese eBay's scam gets only comments discussing the electrical circuitry. Geeks!

  • @phonotical
    @phonotical Год назад +1

    Could it not magnetically couple the field of both transformers? Be interesting to see a power output test with and without said weight

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Год назад

      They would have to be directly connected and not with something between the weight and the transformer.
      I'd suspect it to be thermally important thought

    • @rexsceleratorum1632
      @rexsceleratorum1632 Год назад

      Transformer cores wrap around and provide a full flux path, so I doubt that much would go through the weight. Plus any flux leaking at the high switching frequencies might just heat the iron.

    • @brucepickess8097
      @brucepickess8097 Год назад

      ​@@NinoJoel So it's a heatsink then?, a valid addition to its functionality ?, a purposeful design feature ?, not a lump of steel inserted to fool the buyer at all ??.🤔

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Год назад

      @@brucepickess8097 id say it is for cooling.
      If it was just for weight they would not have bothered to put the sadly not attached tape there

  • @GavTatu
    @GavTatu Год назад

    i understood maybe 1% of that, yet watched the whole video.

  • @gilbertos1984
    @gilbertos1984 Год назад

    Pretty sure the metal it's just to add weight to make it feel more premium or to weigh as much as a similar product

  • @andyhill242
    @andyhill242 Год назад +4

    That reminds me, I have some unbranded. USB chargers that I bought from Amazon some years ago. They worked perfectly for several years but were then subject to a product recall by Amazon due to the risk of electric shock. I was refunded in full but never had to return them. I keep meaning to send them to you for analysis, but I never got around to it! The only point of this comment is to fix it in my mind again.
    Great video by the way.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur Год назад

      Smash them and throw them away, ensures nobody else will use them.

    • @AngelaTheSephira
      @AngelaTheSephira Год назад +3

      ​@@SashazurWhat? Why do that when we could get free content from them here?

  • @thany3
    @thany3 Год назад +6

    To be fair, the rated 15W may have been at QC-voltages, like 12V. You'd need a load tester that is capable of testing QC specifically.
    However, the fact that USB-C load wasn't tested, probably means it was just as crap.

  • @StopChangingUsernamesYouTube
    @StopChangingUsernamesYouTube Год назад

    The chunk of steel how you know you're getting what you paid for. The cheap stuff doesn't include _any_ bonus steel, and anyone being worse about it would've probably given you lead instead.

  • @adamw.8579
    @adamw.8579 Год назад

    SDC 5091, 20 Watt Switching Power Supply controller with intergrated power switch. Similar to TNY 2xx series, different pinout, IC for fast chargers. 65 W is from space, paper can accept everything.

  • @east-in-west
    @east-in-west Год назад

    I've learned its best to buy memory cards, gaming controllers, and charging bricks all directly from reputable distributors. Never from ebay.

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc Год назад +1

    Steel cheaper than concrete?

  • @GreatJoe
    @GreatJoe Год назад +1

    Might be time to upgrade your USB load to one that can demand higher voltages.

  • @Slugbunny
    @Slugbunny Год назад

    Actual metal dummy weight is how you know it's quality chinesium. The cheap ones would be packed with contaminated soil or compacted waste.