The only thing I dislike about Rain's b + 3,4 string is that he CLEARLY kicks the opponent in their foot, but it's labeled a "Mid" attack. I've always disliked it when moves are labeled one hit property when it clearly looks like another one 😂.
I feel like they are slowly completing characters out of what feels like them in an early access state. Rain and reptile look so fun now. Ermac is proof what they can do with time. He is the most freestyle character by far and we need that for others bigtime. Kameos should complement not be required for the base roster.
@@mellothirty I don't think so. The best way to play this guy isn't optimizing combos it's optimizing mix ups and block stun and he can honestly be nasty on block with Kano or Stryker covering for hin
Rain got new moves and might be top 10. Quan Chi got new moves and moved up the tierlist, and Liu Kang has stayed consistently good throughout. All three of my mains in this game are really good… this might be the first time I’ve had this happen. In MK11, I loved so many characters but they were all low-tier, I had struggles with so many match ups but I was trying to have fun in a game that *wasnt* fun.
Honestly, the low tiers in this game (besides havik) are all still very good. I basically only play mid-low tiers and still do pretty well. I don’t reslly feel the high tier difference unless i’m fighting kenshi or johnny cage.
Thank you Ketchup, Rain is probably my second favourite character in Mortal Kombat 1 and your explanations help allot on how the changes will benefit him, and us as well of course.
I like the way they allow Geyser + Up to also do the far geyser, makes it much more intuitive to use kameos that require a held up, like scorpion. Nice touch, might have always been the case but I never consciously recognised it. Edit: You can also combo B3 into Rain God to get some swaggy stuff midscreen. What I would give for a different input for that though.
@@sondertales6762I’m glad that I don’t have to feel weird about being a Raiden main anymore. I’ve been Raiden/Jax since day 1 so I never abused storm cell. The only thing that really changed for me is that they buffed the DB2 special. Can’t wait to play around with it and see I can implement it.
This is such a powerful video! With Rain and Reptile in addition to Ermac and Peacemaker along with some of the more fleshed out cast, we are beginning to see the game Netherealm wanted to release and I am getting excited.
This is the exact effect that makes zoners so strange in Smash compared to other fighting games, with only a few exceptions they ALL have burst options, whiff punishes, and up close combo starters like this
This is awesome. I played Rain a lot and he was the first character i got max mastery through just playing. I stopped using him because his combos were just too repetetive. I will come back to him and try out some new stuff. Super glad he got new strings.
I'm more happy Reptile got some small yet giant buffs, that skydrop cancel is nuts for making everything he does safe now and with a proper and crazy fast full screen projectile to boot makes him feel so fresh. Plus his standing 3 got a sneaky buff where you can actually cancel it mid way and it has enough hitstun to start combos with now (with it's extended range it's almost a start of round hit now)
Would you guys ever consider posting some of your KL matches as separate videos? These tech videos are awesome, but I'd love to be able to see you guys cook with your mains in match situations
It was always awkward for me to only get Geyser as a ranged punish, especially if I needed to do a micro-dash into Far Geyser to even trade for chip damage! The new low string helps so much with that!. The bug fix to the dash cancel's inability to block is also VERY impactful. I'd always be miffed that I reacted to Reiko's EX Stars, but couldn't block it.
For my fellow Rain mains, b3 can be special canceled into ddu (rain god) and if you're close enough, you can get a jump combo for more meterless damage. Also 211 can be dash canceled into 211 again.
I hope we get some small Havik sauce when they release the second wave of DLC for Titan Havik. I'd like to be able to dash cancel out of EX Helping Hand
These are some really cool buffs, just crossing my fingers Nitara receives a similar treatment. Now that I think about it, he can kind of play a bit like smoke now with better zoning but worse mix
Can anybody tell me if raiden was nerfed or buffed at all? I did notice a change in his overload brutality, now I have to do the enhanced version of electromagnetic storm + up, instead of non enhanced
While it is nice, these dash cancels are really tight, and doing it online will feel almost impossible. Feels like a buff only the top 3% will benefit from.
@@IIIII... correct lmao. If a character is already really good in the game, why would they need to be made even better. I don't think you thought that statement through lmao. And yes, ashrah could use some nerfs
Maybe I’m just not used to it/good enough for it. But I feel like a lot of the new mids and cancels are better in concept than they are in practice. It’s just too difficult for the majority of people
yeah besides the new strings, the cancel buffs don't benefit the casual player at all really... I've got a so-so foundation of FG experience and I still can't hit the cancel combos consistently after a couple hours of practice
@@jaden_ja I think doing B3 into another B3 is a bit too much unless you’re a high level player. F21 into B3 though is very doable and gives almost all of the same benefits I think Rain needs to be paired up with a Pressure Kameo like Motaro or Stryker to keep opponents from just mashing after every cancel
You know I Grew to Enjoy MK1 Rain as when you Play Him the Moves becomes as Leaner as a River, now there’s Tons of More New Potential with Rain that is a Storm we will want to Study.
@@claystedman6923 as a fellow havik main, I agree. I'm also pretty sure this guy is a scrubby rain main who wants his character to be broken so he doesn't have to learn how to get good at the game
@@IIIII... i had some decent results with him online but that might just be people not being familiar enough with him as he was not a popular pick. He was super fun in 11 though
@atlantic33333 Because fighting games are not supposed to be just about online and Arcade more/story mode, fighting games need to have tons of single player content on top of the online, it has been like that for decades.
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I need NRS to choose violence and let more of the cast cook
just make everyone broken ig. that could be fun
@@elitheOG at least situationally broke. I work in neutral to play my game then it's roll tide
@@CoachSMETAGaming I feel that
@@CoachSMETAGamingyou get it
And nerf all the kameos to the same level. Could make out of pocket situations happen
This patch is so sick. Bring in more cancel combos
The only thing I dislike about Rain's b + 3,4 string is that he CLEARLY kicks the opponent in their foot, but it's labeled a "Mid" attack.
I've always disliked it when moves are labeled one hit property when it clearly looks like another one 😂.
Like when quan chi is literally smack your nuts (or your face when ducking) and it’s considered a high smh
@@duatchol7710or kenshi’s bullshit overhead
@@itzzackovia was an overhead in mk9 :)
Baraka's mid to low is the worst offender for me
@@yanih7😂😂😂😂😂😂 I feel this to a unprecedented degree
I'm so glad two of my mains, Reptile and Rain got some nice changes. I hope they keep getting better and better.
I feel like they are slowly completing characters out of what feels like them in an early access state. Rain and reptile look so fun now. Ermac is proof what they can do with time. He is the most freestyle character by far and we need that for others bigtime. Kameos should complement not be required for the base roster.
"Oh no... don't hurt me with..water"
The eye roll was so disrespectful 😂
He wasn't low tier already. He was pretty damm strong when ran with Kano or Stryker.
So this is amazing to see that he's now much stronger seemingly
Rain Gang stays winning
He’s strong with sub, or Janet not Kano and Stryker they are good for him but not better than sub or Janet though not even better than khameleon
No idea why this character received a huge buff lol
Trust me, he was frustrating to play and needed way more effort to work than with others@amateur-madman3047
@@mellothirty I don't think so.
The best way to play this guy isn't optimizing combos it's optimizing mix ups and block stun and he can honestly be nasty on block with Kano or Stryker covering for hin
So much new stuff for tons of characters, Reptile also got so much new stuff. MK1 just keeps getting better and better!
Rain got new moves and might be top 10. Quan Chi got new moves and moved up the tierlist, and Liu Kang has stayed consistently good throughout.
All three of my mains in this game are really good… this might be the first time I’ve had this happen.
In MK11, I loved so many characters but they were all low-tier, I had struggles with so many match ups but I was trying to have fun in a game that *wasnt* fun.
Honestly, the low tiers in this game (besides havik) are all still very good. I basically only play mid-low tiers and still do pretty well. I don’t reslly feel the high tier difference unless i’m fighting kenshi or johnny cage.
@@spartankelly392bro they need to rework havik hes actually terrible bro only has like a whiff punish and like 8 moves 😭
Thank you Ketchup,
Rain is probably my second favourite character in Mortal Kombat 1 and your explanations help allot on how the changes will benefit him, and us as well of course.
Not rain getting the EXACT FUCKING THING all scorpion players have been begging for since release
Not scorpion having a fast full screen projectile like what Rain players want. Rain's projectile is slow.
What were the scorpion players requesting?
I like the way they allow Geyser + Up to also do the far geyser, makes it much more intuitive to use kameos that require a held up, like scorpion. Nice touch, might have always been the case but I never consciously recognised it.
Edit:
You can also combo B3 into Rain God to get some swaggy stuff midscreen. What I would give for a different input for that though.
Rain mains unite! We have been blessed!
Hurra for two of us😂
Seriously.😭😭😭
can I join ..?
@@ShrekWess as a representative of the council of Rain Stans you are permitted entry into our ranks.
*Prince Rain forever !*
So many cool kharacters in this game, its very hard to pick one to main. I love it!
Fantastic day to be a Rain main
buff raiden players fundamentals
Never, he need to pay warcrimes now, so gonna recieve more nerfs.
Honestly a lot of characters need more sauce so they are not one dimensional
@@CosmicRPGI think he was saying to buff the players themselves since they were relying on Raiden being broken lol
@@sondertales6762I’m glad that I don’t have to feel weird about being a Raiden main anymore. I’ve been Raiden/Jax since day 1 so I never abused storm cell. The only thing that really changed for me is that they buffed the DB2 special. Can’t wait to play around with it and see I can implement it.
Before the buffs. I kinda forgot he was in the game at all.
I just realized Rain was in yellow while Ermac was in Red...Clever
Also keep in mind that B3 on hit is PLUS 28!! You have time to walk your dog, take a shower, come back and still jail into a standing one
8:00 You can do 1,1 after the cancel, but you have to wait a bit more before pressing so you don’t cancel the dash. It has pretty wacky timing
This is such a powerful video! With Rain and Reptile in addition to Ermac and Peacemaker along with some of the more fleshed out cast, we are beginning to see the game Netherealm wanted to release and I am getting excited.
One of the few youtubers I insta likes the vid! Great kontent as always! 🍻🍻
That zoom in on the F2 having T-Rex reach cracked me up.
I love you, Ketchup. You're always making my favorite character 10 times better ❤
that cyrax copter is so hard to hit in the corner, any tips?
This is the exact effect that makes zoners so strange in Smash compared to other fighting games, with only a few exceptions they ALL have burst options, whiff punishes, and up close combo starters like this
This is awesome. I played Rain a lot and he was the first character i got max mastery through just playing. I stopped using him because his combos were just too repetetive. I will come back to him and try out some new stuff. Super glad he got new strings.
Dope video as always, 1 question, what’s the opti in the corner if you only have cyrax for net but not the 114 extender?
I'm more happy Reptile got some small yet giant buffs, that skydrop cancel is nuts for making everything he does safe now and with a proper and crazy fast full screen projectile to boot makes him feel so fresh. Plus his standing 3 got a sneaky buff where you can actually cancel it mid way and it has enough hitstun to start combos with now (with it's extended range it's almost a start of round hit now)
Just thinking about using the confluence beam in the corner for an extra launcher, god I loved rain before and this just makes me happier
Love your vids as always K&M.
But i do really really miss seeing you guys play online against other players on here.
Would you guys ever consider posting some of your KL matches as separate videos? These tech videos are awesome, but I'd love to be able to see you guys cook with your mains in match situations
It was always awkward for me to only get Geyser as a ranged punish, especially if I needed to do a micro-dash into Far Geyser to even trade for chip damage! The new low string helps so much with that!. The bug fix to the dash cancel's inability to block is also VERY impactful. I'd always be miffed that I reacted to Reiko's EX Stars, but couldn't block it.
For my fellow Rain mains, b3 can be special canceled into ddu (rain god) and if you're close enough, you can get a jump combo for more meterless damage.
Also 211 can be dash canceled into 211 again.
How?
Sonicfox taking notes
Gonna try that team cuz i played rain in all mk series and glad that he got buffed
They should still buff more characters, but it's always nice to see new things being added to characters
Doing F21 cancel into B3 Cyrax net is honestly VERY solid! Anything into Cyrax net is pretty op
Dame rain do be looking even cooler then before
any other combo ender aside from that double puddle thingy?
I hope we get some small Havik sauce when they release the second wave of DLC for Titan Havik. I'd like to be able to dash cancel out of EX Helping Hand
Agreed
I wish Rain had an ex move that leads to an unblockable combo.
significant patch i wouldnt say. but there are some good changes
These are some really cool buffs, just crossing my fingers Nitara receives a similar treatment.
Now that I think about it, he can kind of play a bit like smoke now with better zoning but worse mix
Congrats on 200K subs!!!!!! 😎😎👍👍
I miss the Roundhouse cancels he had in MK9, but now he has a new version of it 👍🏽
Would you being doing repltile buff details video?
Can anybody tell me if raiden was nerfed or buffed at all? I did notice a change in his overload brutality, now I have to do the enhanced version of electromagnetic storm + up, instead of non enhanced
While it is nice, these dash cancels are really tight, and doing it online will feel almost impossible. Feels like a buff only the top 3% will benefit from.
Kan you please make a Kompetitive History of Scorpion 🦂 video? 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
3:15 - RaiN
Love his cancels buff. Used to need cyrax for this but not anymore!
Let the rain nation flow down the world. Am glad this happen it let me want to stick with rain for good then picking a another character.
Oh no, this will bring back my Predator brainworms from MKX /positive
The fact that sonic won a tourney with rain is not talked about enough
That was before Cyrax got nerfed.
It's krazy how much rain changes every game
Shapeless like water.
Been waiting on this video.
3:15 nice voice crack
You know why I'm here... *To request Competitive History of LIU KANG!*
I can't get the timing for f21 cancel into b3, any tips?
I wonder how well Kano as a kameo would work with Rain...?
“premiere zoner” ooh this gonna be fun
I already see these combos in KL. 😀
The last character that needed buffs. Rain is A tier already
According to you, if a character is A tier, they don't need buffs. I hope Ashrah gets nerfed.
@@IIIII... correct lmao. If a character is already really good in the game, why would they need to be made even better. I don't think you thought that statement through lmao. And yes, ashrah could use some nerfs
The combo cancels is what i wanted for cyborg of injustice 2 😢 one day old friend you will hopefully!
wait b3 is not a low..?
I hope you'll cover Shujinko buffs
I will be the one to ask, hows the competitive history of Shang Sung going?
Oh no
I love rain too, but I wish NRS didn’t turn him into some wizard 🧙♂️ with a staff…
Ermac looks so tired
Lol he kinda does. A vessel of undead souls. Imagine them all whining about this or that and ermac is just over hearing it all😂
@@rockkandyplay5692 LMAO 😂
Man idk why but I’m having a hard time canceling from 211 and it’s killing me here 😭 like df am I doing wrong I’m dashing on the first hit of 1
From premier zoner to premier rush down lol NRS
Rain playing MKX
The net also combos off his back 3 mid screen
Never mind
0:21 at the end of the zoom rains staff rotates. Unplayable.
Can i just get a 20 frame projectile for shao....all i want
You kinda sound like Tom from game theory
My god they took my main and gave him Crack
Maybe I’m just not used to it/good enough for it. But I feel like a lot of the new mids and cancels are better in concept than they are in practice. It’s just too difficult for the majority of people
yeah besides the new strings, the cancel buffs don't benefit the casual player at all really... I've got a so-so foundation of FG experience and I still can't hit the cancel combos consistently after a couple hours of practice
@@jaden_ja I think doing B3 into another B3 is a bit too much unless you’re a high level player. F21 into B3 though is very doable and gives almost all of the same benefits
I think Rain needs to be paired up with a Pressure Kameo like Motaro or Stryker to keep opponents from just mashing after every cancel
Try to say
"Rain mains main Rain"
Ten times fast
😂😂😂😂
You know I Grew to Enjoy MK1 Rain as when you Play Him the Moves becomes as Leaner as a River, now there’s Tons of More New Potential with Rain that is a Storm we will want to Study.
Do a Deception meta
When I saw this video in my feed, I immediately clicked it. Love ur content and Rain is looking pretty dope
2 days after I drop rain for shao 😢
The amount of dash cancelable moves and smoke players still need to practice their times 🙄🤣
NRS buffing an already good character but, my boy Havik got nothing. >:(
F em
Rain wasnt that good though
People like you make me happy he got nothing.
@@IIIII... Do you honestly believe Rain of all characters deserved to be buffed? Also what did I say to make you so upset?
@@claystedman6923 as a fellow havik main, I agree. I'm also pretty sure this guy is a scrubby rain main who wants his character to be broken so he doesn't have to learn how to get good at the game
Competitive history when
Let them take their time, we don't need one every month or something
The reptile buffs are good.
hello
do u remember my scorpion khameleon?
in the end i wanted to say gg but u left so i say it here gg
compared to mk11 rain, mk1 rain is insane. 😭😭
MK11 rain also had some really cool stuff though
@@sammythijs8641
sammythijs8641
He was one of the weakest characters in MK11. Game play wise, this is the best he's ever been.
@@IIIII... i had some decent results with him online but that might just be people not being familiar enough with him as he was not a popular pick.
He was super fun in 11 though
Scorpion mains: 😢
why is he using a STICK, for me it's disappointing. i hope in MK1 Will come Ninja Rain from other timeline..
i love mortal kombat, but man, 174 gb for a fighting game with no content...
What do you mean "no content"?
@@naimashamoushaki7166 He's a fool, don't take him seriously, MK1 has tons of content.
@@RoyArkon "tons of content"
@@calmfog312 Yep, tons of content.
@atlantic33333 Because fighting games are not supposed to be just about online and Arcade more/story mode, fighting games need to have tons of single player content on top of the online, it has been like that for decades.
Really exaggerating how big the patch is. There wasn't much at all
First!!!!!!!!!
1,495TH