LeBron or MJ: Who is the NBA GOAT according to the players? | What’s Wright
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- The Athletic did their annual anonymous player’s poll, and Michael Jordan is barely ahead of LeBron James as the greatest player of all time. Nick Wright talks about how the poll has changed dramatically and LeBron has closed the gap due to his longevity and how he keeps breaking records.
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Who's your NBA GOAT?
Ohhh here comes the clown 🤡 NICK WRIGHT! and there's the CHOKE one Lebum 😂
Jordan 1A LeBron 1B
Jordan is the GOAT. Majority of advance metrics demonstrate Jordan is the GOAT, Jordan's the better basketball athlete, Jordan's the better defensive player and scorer, and he was far more exciting to watch than LeBron has ever been. But given LeBron's high level of performance well past his athletic prime and in addition to him pretty much owning the all time stats I wouldn't be able to argue with anyone who has LeBron as their GOAT.
3:10 Michael Jordan is #1 highest points per game average in NBA history, Michael Jordan is #1 most Scoring Titles in NBA history, Michael Jordan is #1 most NBA Finals MVPs in NBA history….I can keep going, and the only thing that sticks out for LeGevity Raymone James is the longevity accolade of refusing to retire (because he is still chasing Michael Jordan) and stacking points along the way to the point that LeBron James passed Kareem and nobody care because LeBron lost the game. And then LeBron James scored 40,000 and nobody cares because he lost that game as well. 🤷♂️
I'm not paying attention to a list that has Paul Pierce as the GOAT. 😂
Jordan never a doubt!
2 years in a row sweep. 😂
Jordan hands down!! Anyone else considered is asinine!!💯
How many 20 year olds were polled? How many 30 year olds? That matters. If you poll 5 year olds on who their favorite cartoon character right now, it might not be Mickey Mouse.
The fact that Jordan hasn't played in 22 years, and LeBron still hasn't passed him in accolades or team accomplishments says everything.
Y'all better hope jokic doesn't threepeat..... 😂 😂 😂
Yea it says this is a much more talented league
@@Ace-fe8gc riiiiiight
Jordan's accolades and team accomplishments are second to none tho. The fact that Bron has come close speaks to yo how great he is himself.
@@Ace-fe8gcactually that's incorrect players are not more talented if they need three to five extra steps to make a layup and definitely not more talented if they need rules abolished to allow them to shoot uncontested shots
@@ramsescano5622 the gap between Jordan and LeBron is massive
9 scoring titles
4 First Team All Defense
3 Steals Titles
1 DPOY
2 Championships
2 Finals MVPs
1 Regular Season MVP
That gap is like a Kevin Durant and Giannis career put together.
It's a HOF career all by itself, arguably top 10 in its own right.
It's not close. It's never been close.
Maybe they should have done the poll after the lakers get swept
The 2024 ESPN GOAT POLL: Michael Jordan - 63% vs LeBron James - 37%. The 2020 ESPN GOAT POLL: Michael Jordan - 73% vs LeBron James - 27%. 🔥
And the smart kids will understand how unimpressive 4 titles in 40 years is…. The smart ones will understand domination over accumulation.
Who tf is saying Paul pierce…
"This will probably be the last pole in which Jordan has the lead"
Somehow I doubt that
Talk about the fact that these guys have played again Bron, not Jordan, and still vote Jordan. I thought we were done with 90s?
Lebron also has another record, the most walk offs when losing a game. Great sportsmanship. Great role model
Kobe getting 10% is very impressive with no media support
The only thing Nick got wrong is Lebron on the all time steals list. Even if he were to play another 3-4 years it would still be statistically impossible for Lebron to catch Chris Paul in steals much less be #1 at least in the regular season. He is however, #1 in the postseason.
Lebron 20 year 4 rings.. that's role player vibes
3 rings
@@t3jf 4
@herschelpatel7115 3 The in season championship doesn't count, lol 😆 😂 🤣
5 because of the IST
@ 1:36 "And as LeBron keeps writing his story" getting swept for the 2nd consecutive time by the Nuggets in the playoffs. 🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
Jordan already proved he was the goat . Lebron still hasnt overtaken Jordan in public opinion so this proves jorfan is the goat
I don’t believe playing the most matches makes you the greatest player surely. It makes you the most durable. We are talking about 2 different things. It’s like saying that Fernando Alonso was better than Senna because he has more points in F1 and drove more seasons. It ain’t true.
KOBE
recency bias will have bron over jordan , very soon
Actually anyone who saw BOTH the play will OBVIOUSLY say the MUCH better player Jordan is the GOAT BUT recency bias will have young guys saying Steph or Jokic or Luka is the GOAT soon...watch.. especially when LeBron retires...I mean saying Jokic makes about as much sense as LeBron because LeBron isn't even the second best player in history.Kareem is right now.
****QUESTION FOR NICK****
Which current player has the best opportunity to eclipse LeBron as the goat after LeBron has the majority vote for a couple decades: Wemby, Jokic or Luka?
4:00 The last poll….21 years of NBA play from LeBron James while Mike Jordan was retired for those same 21 years, yet Michael Jordan is still in the lead, so even if LeBron James takes “the lead” 5 years from now, that will not be a flex at all.
JOKIC just ended the GOAT debate for good.
Jordan, not even close!
mike all day
I've never been more convinced that LeBron is straight up paying people in media to keep pushing this GOAT thing-LeBron, himself, won't stop bringing it up. And guys like Nick, who claim to be NBA historians and superfans, do nothing but disparage Jordan at every turn. I feel like a real unbiased basketball fan would only have the highest admiration for Jordan...
Gen Z will grow up watching Luka, Wemby, Jokic, Ant and tear down Lebron, even if they never reach Lebron's level. Bron never reached MJ's dominance, hard to understand in just stats and highlights.
okay bud whatever that helps u sleep better 🤷🏽♂️
@@Willkill1999 Nick eloquently explained to you how time has eroded Russell and MJ's legacy, why wouldn't the exact same thing happen to Lebron, who has his failures captured in 4K?
@@ImportAlYup. 25 years from now they won’t remember Lebron the same as they did Jordan 25 years after his playing days were over. Those Jordan shoes and his iconic 3 peats will continue to be remembered.
@@ImportAlTime coupled with Lebron crushing their records is the difference. Nobody is getting to 10 straight finals and scoring 40k again. I'm not sure where you picked up the fake dominance narrative. Lebron beat multiple dyansties and took 2 franchises from lottery to champions in 2 years.
@@tylerholt6828 Dominance is winning championships as the game's MVP, not second place coming out of weak East and great stats. What LeBron did was amazing, but his lack of midrange, FT, clutch shooting lost a LOT of close series Jordan wins if you swapped them.
We understand that nick is a lebron guy but being a sports media person and to hate another former legend of sports like michael jordan is straight up disrespectful. He is talking like Jordan's legacy would be wiped out of basketball history. That is never going to happen nick!
When you score finals points and let role players call you out and outplayed you,you can never be goat. Case closed
They are close because 5 years ago the numbers wasn’t there all the way yet for LeBron and he only had 3 rings, now he’s got all the numbers and he got 4 rings. The numbers should be close.
How can such a “great” player like a LeBron James lose so many of his GREATEST games:
How could LeBron James LOSE THE GAME where he scored the 40,000 points AND LOSE THE GAME where he surpassed Kareem Abdul-Jabar and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James passed Kobe Bryant and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James passed Michael Jordan and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James scored 35,000 and LOSE THE GAME where LeBron James scored 30,000??
How can you dedicate this 2023-2024 NBA season to your recovering son and LOSE THE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON, and LOSE THE GAME on your birthday and LOSE THE GAME on the Kobe Bryant Statue Unveiling Day, and now LOSE THE GAME in which you scored 40,000 LONGEVITY points???? I actually feel sorry for LeBron James. GOD LOVES MICHAEL JORDAN!! Michael Jordan is the GOAT today, tomorrow, and FOREVER!!!! LeBron James IS STILL CHASING Michael Jordan and LeBron James WILL FOREVER CHASE Michael Jordan. 🐐
Nick , why don’t you and your backup singer explain who were in the previous polls compared to now, then explain why anyhow you slice it and dice it,Michael Jordan comes out on Top. Bill Russell was not been called the goat during Jordan era, nobody was saying Kareem better than Jordan after 1993. Jordan didn’t have to wait 20 years to dethrone any player? Just saying
Love ya Nick, but you're wrong here. Someone who's lost 6 finals can't be the GOAT.
Again counting team accomplishments to individual player
When you have a new wave of Zoomers entering the league each year is it any wonder the margin is closing, they’re going to favor the player they admired growing up
He's very proud of his 5 years of propaganda! 😂
🐐👑
Jordan's GOAT status was manufactured as a brand and everyone bought it. Bill Russel is the GOAT and will be forever.
“Manufactured as a brand” lol. Then why did he go 600+ games without losing 3 in a row. His brand is nothing without his play & iconic moments.
20yrs still chasing, this guy celebrating lebron lost its like winning
jordan could never win a title with 3 different teams , being the man
He Won 6 of em
Ya he won 6, threepeating twice, with the same team. Why team hop when you are confident in winning where you're at? 😂 😂 😂
Jordan is a system player. He needs a team so stacked and No Zone defense rule for him which he complained to commissioner David Stern's office before he can win anything. When he doesn't have super stacked teams he always loses, he can't even make them a contender. This and it aligned with his Expansion era made his life so much easy for him.
@@RedCloudBlackSky 😂 😂 😂 😂
How couldn’t he? You think he doesn’t win if he calls up the superstar of his choice like bron did? He won more with less, you not very smart to make this comment.
Yo Nick is trying SO HARD to make LeBron the GOAT which is WILD...The difference between Jordan and LeBron is the MEDIA out him in the GOAT conversation NOT his play whereas with Jordan everybody whos been watching Basketball since Russell onwards COLLECTIVELY JUST looked at each other and said its UNDENIABLE hes the GOAT...no guys on the payroll had to spend LITERALLY TEN YEARS NON-STOP trying to BRAINWASH the public into believing something SO SILLY...I mean Lebron hasn't even passed Kareem IMO so...this is a pretty dumb discussion but the fact they're trying SO INCREDIBLY HARD to gaslight people and that it works is pretty wild. I guess ya can rewrite history with enough money and time.
Spot on. Once Lebron retires, everyone will still be compared to Jordan. He’s the standard.
Alot of writing man. Just to be delusional.
1. Lebron 🐐👑
2. Michael
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Wilt
6.Bird/ Kobe/Duncan
9. Hakeem
10. Shaq
@@marcusg1021Bruh, you can't get outplayed by Jason Terry and guarded by J.J. Barea and be the goat. Not possible. I know that LeBron makes fatherless dudes feel special, but nah....ain't gonna happen 😂.
Klutch Sports pays this poker addicted shill to promote LeBron.
Jordan got outplayed by Rex Chapman and also got bodied by Rod Strickland. He also guarded mugsy bogues? That's trash 🗑. We DONE with 90s.
Recency bias
This guy must be the worst broadcaster! I swear !!😂😂😂
This is his era 😂😂😂
Most flops, most turnover, most tears shed on the court, most tantrums will be Lebron
Once again, Lebron passes when the game is on the line and got *ELIMINATED.* Sorry, you *LOST.* Clutch Sports puppet.
😂😂😂
Lebum is bum
wennigton , perdue , cartwright, kukoc, etc carried jordan, case closed
Is this sarcastic or smth
Lebron still trailing is embarrassing. This is his era.
hahahahahha you tight
@user-wl4xr8lb1e Nah the fact lebron glazers think this is an accomplishment astounds me. Even with the recency bias factor, he still isn't leading.
Nah it went from Jordan's era to Kobe era to Curry's era and now it's the Joker's era.
@@chrisprievo4582that's is nonsense 🤣🤦 Is it that hard to be objective, it was Magic Bird, Jordan, Duncan Kobe, Lebron Curry, Joker Giannis, shout out Hakeem for 90's & Shaq for 00's
He won’t get the right love until he retires, Jordan will still beat him out but he won’t get criticized for everything he does
Jordan fans when it was 58 to 33: it's legit
Jordan fans when it's 45 to 42: that's a made up poll
The Athletic Player Poll is 142 active players lol. It’s an extremely small sample size. Try doing a poll with a million voters. Most these active players were not even born in 98 or in diapers. Jordan will remain the goat until a majority of anyone 30 & over are not alive. Jordan is in that Babe Ruth & Ali iconic tier. Lebron is in the Larry Holmes & Hank Aaron tier.
@@rackball5858Agreed
Either way "LeBron fans" are still losing
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen
84-85 38-44..First round exit
85-86. 30-52..First round exit
86-87. 40-42...First round exit
01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs
02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs
Lebron james has won more playoff Series' than any player in NBA HISTORY
Lebron james has been to 10 nba finals. Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones (in a mostly nine team league) have made more nba finals appearances
LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals
In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate
Rick Barry (1975)
Bill Walton (1977)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Tim Duncan (2005) (2007)
Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010)
Steph Curry (2015) (2022)
LeBron james (2016)
Kawhi Leonard (2019)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021)
As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt
Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO
In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were
83-84 bulls 27-55
84-85 bulls. 38-44
92-93 bulls 57-25
93-94 bulls 55-27
98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen
00-01 wizards 19-63
01-02 wizards. 37-45
02-03 wizards 37-45
03-04 wizards 25-57
02-03 cavaliers 17-65
03-04 cavaliers 35-47
09-10 cavaliers 61-21
10-11 cavaliers 19-63
09-10 heat. 47-35
10-11 heat 58-24
14-15 heat 37-45
2013-14 cavaliers 33-49
2014-15 cavaliers 53-29
2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32
2018-19 cavaliers 19-63
2017-18 lakers. 35-47
2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day.
As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank.
Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter
Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck.
THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!
I have added a Postscript
So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER to make the playoffs in 1985, as opposed to 2004. Perfect example is, the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
Who is ur top ten out of curiosity? I have Jordan one because of the multiple scoring titles and the fact that everytime he was in the finals he won and won finals mvp. Jordan also won more rings in a shorter time. Lebron is amazing but has had playoff failures, especially against the mavs, that we’re brutal. It also hurts lebrons case in some people’s eyes that he formed a super team to win and “only” got two rings
@@Kevin-bh3dl lebron legit won finals mvp multiple times on different teams😂
@@Willkill1999 always with multiple guys who were all-stars and/or all-nba that season. Scottie was Jordan's only all-star in same season as 6 titles. AD is way better than Scottie, so are Wade and Kyrie, Bosh, and Love for 2nd scorers until LeBron makes them spot-up shooters. Oh 2011 DQs Lebron anyways so this is all for fun at work lol.
@@Willkill1999so did kawhi. If the players move around more now how is that a knock against older guys who only played for one team? Then again you were born in 1999 so google is your only experience
Waste a bunch of hours just to make a fool of yourself 😂