New to Li-Pos also. If you know that you're going to use your Li-Pos for one big event but will likely be storing them away for an extended period afterward, is it generally best practice to always "Storage Charge" them after the event is over even if you know you haven't used up all the power in the Li-Po?
Right? I normally run 1/8 nitro buggy and decided to run 1/10 2WD stock buggy this winter. Never thought I’d be saying this, but all this LiPo information/numbers/charging and output rates/terminology, etc makes nitro engines seem simple.
@@TheRCNetwork Thanks for the helpful video. I wish I had watched it earlier. Then I'd've known *not* to leave my 2S LiPo fully discharged for more than 3 days. :-(
Great to have your take on this, Rich. Wish I'd had as clear a walk through of LiXX issues when I came back to the hobby this year and had to learn all about the new tech!
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thanks for the video and great info. Im just getting back into the hobby since back in the 80s and 90s things have changed. I just picked up the Team Associated Rival MT10 RTR and it came with the same charger and lipo as you have in the video. you also have it at 1a out of the 3 options. what the difference from 1a 2a 3a - should I avoid charging at 3a?
The different Amp charges (1, 2, 3) is how quick it will charge. It's perfectly safe to charge at 1C or what ever your battery is in Mah - let's say a 5,000mah, you can safely charge at 5amps with no problem. 3300mah, you can charge at 3.3amps
@@TheRCNetwork plz reply sir .i am new in this hobby . If i charge battery in storage mode after playing rc car.( Because i am not playing everyday only one or two days in a week). Can it creates any problem if i charge storage mode after playing .? Thanks in advance ❤️
I wonder how well Reedy Lipo battery’s are? i purchased some of there Nimh such as 3000 mah wolfpack and 4200 and it did fit some of my Tamiya cars. Even my 1993 RC10T. And the 4200 didn’t last for many cycles.
Good video and good tips for a old timer like myself who recently has finally gotten into the modern world of RC with a brushless motor and 2.4 radio the next step is to replace all my old nicads and nimh batteries with some Lipo packs.
Good video for the beginner nice work. But the 1st thing I would do is ditch the RTR charger for one that will monitor individual cell voltage while charging & always charge & store in a fire proof lipo bag.
mike south check out a channel by Nick Adams. He's a British guy, he does a lot of motor videos on timing and what not..very informative stuff. But it all depends on what you are running, stock or mod. Stock you adjust your timing on the motor higher and mod you can leave the timing on the motor lower and adjust the timing within the ESC itself, because a mod motor is faster to begin with so..you don't need the timing higher on it
100 Fahrenheit I assume.... I'm currently using a 20C pack for my GP's engine heater. It seems a little weak and I was wondering if people typically use a higher C count for these heaters.
good stuff rich. i would add always charge your batteries on a non flammable surface like a concrete floor, and always have a fire extinguisher nearby.
Hay can you answer this, the charger that comes in the fully rtr kits does not have a storage feature on element rcs or team associated ones. How am I supposed to store them?
no,the storage charge mode will discharge the battery if the battery charge is too high and will charge it if it’s too low therefore protecting your battery
If you don't use your battery in the next three days, you'll want to discharge it to a storage mode (down to 3.85v/cell) simply driving it will make it go fast, or you can put it on mist chargers in storage mode
Anthony Van Vorst any charger that discharges can be used. I use a little $50 one to discharge because my Dynamite one doesn't have discharge function.
Should I unplug from the wall first or disconnect the power plug first then the cell plug next no one seems to be adding this advice. Thanks for your time
Once the cycle is done on the charger, unplug the power plug, then the balance plug, then unplug from the wall. Also, never unplug during a charging/storage/discharge cycle. Stop the charger first.
@@TheRCNetwork Thank you .I have a Venom Lipo and Nimh Ac Sport Balance Charger. This dam thing has really no instructions go figure. Thanks again for helping out
I recently watched your video on lipo battery’s but my question is I’m going to get a rc boat that runs a 3s 25c 4K mah if I change the battery then run it when the lipo cut off run s out and I am done running for that day can I leave it that way over nite in case I run it again next day after a change of course
nick svaluto yeah, you should be fine. Typically, if I don’t use a battery charged or dead with in about 3-4 days, I’ll charge it in storage mode ( charge or discharge to about 3.8v per cell). Be sure that you unplug the battery so there’s no drain beyond Lipo cut off and if your ESC allows, set Lipo cutoff to about 3.2v/cell to be on the safe side.
I asked you about lipo storage I might receive a couple of battery’s for Christmas for a boat I’m getting as well they will be new unsed so how long can I leave them like that till I can run it in the spring thanksits winter here I can’t run it
nick svaluto lipid should come in storage mode, or 3.8v/cell - it’s fine to leave them like this till you’re ready to use. I would double check the voltage with a Lipo checker though
You should be good, as long as they were in storage mode. Meaning set from the factory at 3.85v/cell. Make sure and check them every month or so....sometimes a cell will drop, or all cells will drop very slowly
well explained. it's not often that you hear a tutorial that's explained in a way so that those who are NOT already in the know understand. I have to admit, during all this researching I'm doing before getting into the hobby, all I can think of is the potential danger when using these batteries. We'll see how it goes once I get one. Thanks again for helping a novice.
Potter tons lipos are very dangerous. But as long as you don't mistreat it and know what you are doing, you'll be fine. Treat them as a loaded gun everytime you charge, discharge, storage and running one.
Not sure what you mean? Other than Lipo? Don't let the term "dangerous" scare you. Yes, they can be, but as long as you know what to look for. Are they swollen? Are they getting really hot during discharge or charging? If no, you're fine. Basically.. no swelling, no cracks in the case, no heat issues, everything is ok. And keep them in a lipo bag or anything made of metal(ammo can)when not in use. Don't let them scare you away. Lipos are awesome. They can produce speed and power and a nicad or NiMH cannot.
Chester Copperpot sorry to be a pain. I'll definitely admit; that I'm quite spooked. lol I've read that the process is irreversible once the puffing begins. One thing I haven't seen though, is unplugging that charger once the puffing begins. Would this stop the process? but then again, if your battery is contained while charging, I guess it's irrelevant. catch 22
Its ok. When I got back into racing about five years ago, lipos were knew to me as well. Puffing usually occurs over use. I've had packs swell or puff after six-eight months of use. At this time, I throw them away or recycle them properly. Its rare that a pack will puff during charging, its more of a long term process or like I said, over a period of time from running. However, during a discharge is where you can see a heat issue. If a pack becomes say..10-15+ degrees hotter than the room temp of wherever you are charging, a cell may be bad. And yes, anytime a heat issue comes up, stopping the charge process or unplugging is exaclty what you do. Buy a temp gun or temp gauge, not only to monitor your motor and other electronics, but also to monitor your lipos during the charging, discharging process. Even though I've been charging for 5 years now, every time I charge, discharge I use a temp gun and take a reading every 8 minutes or so. Its normal for your charger to heat up some, but your lipo should never go above 12 or more degrees of the ambient temp. Also, I use a small table fan and turn it on pointing at my charger when I'm using it. Not needed per say, but anytime you can keep electronics cooler, its a good thing. But like I said, look for and watch for the warning signs and you'll be fine. In the five years, I've never had a lipo explode on me. Puffing? Yes. But that was almost always over a length of time from running it/them.
One of my battery packs was Cell1 (3.2V) Cell2 (3.2v) Cell3 (3.0V) Cell4 (3.0v). The charger recognized that the 2 cells were low and applied a 0.8A charge on the 6700mah 4s battery. The 3.0V cells got up to 3.1/3.2 after a few seconds but the charger stopped and threw a low voltage code. I removed the battery and plugged back in. During the time the battery was unplugged to when I plugged it back in all cells were at 3.2 or higher and the charger took off as normal. I performed a storage charge and all cells 30 minutes later appear to be holding well at 3.8 to 3.9. The 3.0 cells were only at 3.0V for about 10 minutes. The pack stayed cool during charge and there is no evidence of swelling. Am I good to go?
Yeah, you should be fine - the variance you speak of is perfectly normal while charging. It's when one cell is at 3.2 and the rest are at 3.9 is when there's an issue...but it can still be corrected
Man, this batteries scare me like shit. Looks like using Plutonium or something like that. Sadly this make me think if I'm really want to enter in this hobby. I really wants too, but I don't want to put my family, home, neighboors at risk. I live in a Condo, I have thousands of dollars invested in Hi Fi Audio system and vinyl collection. I really don't want to put myself and my home at risk for that shitty batteries.
The first thing is respect the batteries and the idea of using them. Once you get past that, set rules and follow them. Finally, proper storage is also key - I use 50 Cal Ammo boxes to store all my batteries
@@TheRCNetwork Yes I know, but even like this. Looks like I'm dealing with plutonium or something like that. I'm not a racer, I just want a RC to "play" around the trails in my home town. I live in a wooden building with smoke detectors everywhere. Even inside a ammo cage in case of malfunction, the cage can reach temperatures of 500 C or even more I can't imagine going to a month vacations and thinking about the batteries everyday. If I burn the complete building and destroy my neightboor properties. I will need my entire life to pay the damages. Or after using the RC one of that batteries catch fire inside my car when I'm driving. I will try with Nimh or Li-Fe batteries. I know the advantage of Lipos, but I don't want that things inside of my home and my car. Really Too risky my friend. Thank you anyway for the good advices
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@The RCNetwork How can we set the battery to storage mode, in the first charger that you show?
I'm new to the hobby. Lipo batteries sound like a pain in the arse.
The performance outweighs the negatives
New to Li-Pos also. If you know that you're going to use your Li-Pos for one big event but will likely be storing them away for an extended period afterward, is it generally best practice to always "Storage Charge" them after the event is over even if you know you haven't used up all the power in the Li-Po?
Right? I normally run 1/8 nitro buggy and decided to run 1/10 2WD stock buggy this winter. Never thought I’d be saying this, but all this LiPo information/numbers/charging and output rates/terminology, etc makes nitro engines seem simple.
@@KN-ko8ez I agree... they know it too.
@@TheRCNetwork
Thanks for the helpful video. I wish I had watched it earlier. Then I'd've known *not* to leave my 2S LiPo fully discharged for more than 3 days. :-(
Great to have your take on this, Rich. Wish I'd had as clear a walk through of LiXX issues when I came back to the hobby this year and had to learn all about the new tech!
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@Patrick Adonis I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and im trying it out now.
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thanks for the video and great info. Im just getting back into the hobby since back in the 80s and 90s things have changed. I just picked up the Team Associated Rival MT10 RTR and it came with the same charger and lipo as you have in the video. you also have it at 1a out of the 3 options. what the difference from 1a 2a 3a - should I avoid charging at 3a?
The different Amp charges (1, 2, 3) is how quick it will charge. It's perfectly safe to charge at 1C or what ever your battery is in Mah - let's say a 5,000mah, you can safely charge at 5amps with no problem. 3300mah, you can charge at 3.3amps
@@TheRCNetwork plz reply sir .i am new in this hobby . If i charge battery in storage mode after playing rc car.( Because i am not playing everyday only one or two days in a week). Can it creates any problem if i charge storage mode after playing .? Thanks in advance ❤️
I wonder how well Reedy Lipo battery’s are? i purchased some of there Nimh such as 3000 mah wolfpack and 4200 and it did fit some of my Tamiya cars. Even my 1993 RC10T. And the 4200 didn’t last for many cycles.
It's been hit or miss on Reedy/zapper batteries for me. but that's true for most lipos on the market.
Good video and good tips for a old timer like myself who recently has finally gotten into the modern world of RC with a brushless motor and 2.4 radio the next step is to replace all my old nicads and nimh batteries with some Lipo packs.
Good video for the beginner nice work. But the 1st thing I would do is ditch the RTR charger for one that will monitor individual cell voltage while charging & always charge & store in a fire proof lipo bag.
can you recommend a video for esc timing vs motor timing I've read a lot of forms and still have questions about the in and outs of timing
mike south check out a channel by Nick Adams. He's a British guy, he does a lot of motor videos on timing and what not..very informative stuff. But it all depends on what you are running, stock or mod. Stock you adjust your timing on the motor higher and mod you can leave the timing on the motor lower and adjust the timing within the ESC itself, because a mod motor is faster to begin with so..you don't need the timing higher on it
100 Fahrenheit I assume....
I'm currently using a 20C pack for my GP's engine heater. It seems a little weak and I was wondering if people typically use a higher C count for these heaters.
How do you charge in “storage mode” with that charger used in the video?
I don't believe this charger has a storage mode. You'd have to use the batteries to a certain voltage...or buy a better charger that does that
good stuff rich. i would add always charge your batteries on a non flammable surface like a concrete floor, and always have a fire extinguisher nearby.
how to discharge with the 324s charger?
I wish they still made this car it’s great looking.
It's pretty decent for a Team Associated
Hay can you answer this, the charger that comes in the fully rtr kits does not have a storage feature on element rcs or team associated ones. How am I supposed to store them?
Only after market chargers can storage charge. You could use the battery for a bit down to 3.85v, which is storage voltage.
@@TheRCNetwork yeah but how do you know when it is at that voltage
@@TheRCNetwork these things are pretty dangerous especially since most begginers are the ones buying the kits with chargers and batts
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hey rich does it hurt your battery if you charge it and dont use it for a week or so
Anthony Van Vorst he said in the vid you don't want to let it sit charged or dicharched for more than 3 days.
If you are not going to use the battery for more than 2-3 days, charge the battery to 3.7-3.8 volts per cell to avoid harm to the battery
How long can I keep a LI-PO battery in "storage mode" for? Doesn't it eventually discharge over time? Thank you.
no,the storage charge mode will discharge the battery if the battery charge is too high and will charge it if it’s too low therefore protecting your battery
Um so what do I do when I am finished with my lipo and won't use it for like a week, because I didn't really get the over three days part?
If you don't use your battery in the next three days, you'll want to discharge it to a storage mode (down to 3.85v/cell) simply driving it will make it go fast, or you can put it on mist chargers in storage mode
@@TheRCNetwork Thanks!
Great video. All important points were covered. Cool.
Can you do a running vid of your traxxas slash platnuim
Yes!
do you know of a good charger so i can charge them to storage settings
Anthony Van Vorst any charger that discharges can be used. I use a little $50 one to discharge because my Dynamite one doesn't have discharge function.
Can you discharge the battery with the reedy charger?
I do not believe so.
@@TheRCNetwork thank you! Would you recommend I just use the car till the battery dies and store it in between uses like that
awesome video rich. i too am a beginner so it will be helpful.
I'm trying to find a 3s battery for my axial yeti do you know of one that is around 5000 mah that can fit
Should I unplug from the wall first or disconnect the power plug first then the cell plug next no one seems to be adding this advice. Thanks for your time
Once the cycle is done on the charger, unplug the power plug, then the balance plug, then unplug from the wall. Also, never unplug during a charging/storage/discharge cycle. Stop the charger first.
@@TheRCNetwork Thank you .I have a Venom Lipo and Nimh Ac Sport Balance Charger. This dam thing has really no instructions go figure. Thanks again for helping out
My battery doesnt have that little white clip
The balance plug?
I recently watched your video on lipo battery’s but my question is I’m going to get a rc boat that runs a 3s 25c 4K mah if I change the battery then run it when the lipo cut off run s out and I am done running for that day can I leave it that way over nite in case I run it again next day after a change of course
nick svaluto yeah, you should be fine. Typically, if I don’t use a battery charged or dead with in about 3-4 days, I’ll charge it in storage mode ( charge or discharge to about 3.8v per cell). Be sure that you unplug the battery so there’s no drain beyond Lipo cut off and if your ESC allows, set Lipo cutoff to about 3.2v/cell to be on the safe side.
I asked you about lipo storage I might receive a couple of battery’s for Christmas for a boat I’m getting as well they will be new unsed so how long can I leave them like that till I can run it in the spring thanksits winter here I can’t run it
nick svaluto lipid should come in storage mode, or 3.8v/cell - it’s fine to leave them like this till you’re ready to use. I would double check the voltage with a Lipo checker though
Ok thank you very much ill do that
I have 2 lipos sitting in the state they came in 4 months ago... Is this dangerous?
You should be good, as long as they were in storage mode. Meaning set from the factory at 3.85v/cell. Make sure and check them every month or so....sometimes a cell will drop, or all cells will drop very slowly
well explained. it's not often that you hear a tutorial that's explained in a way so that those who are NOT already in the know understand. I have to admit, during all this researching I'm doing before getting into the hobby, all I can think of is the potential danger when using these batteries. We'll see how it goes once I get one.
Thanks again for helping a novice.
Potter tons lipos are very dangerous. But as long as you don't mistreat it and know what you are doing, you'll be fine. Treat them as a loaded gun everytime you charge, discharge, storage and running one.
Chester Copperpot are there no alternatives? I'm surprised I haven't seen any.
Not sure what you mean? Other than Lipo? Don't let the term "dangerous" scare you. Yes, they can be, but as long as you know what to look for. Are they swollen? Are they getting really hot during discharge or charging? If no, you're fine. Basically.. no swelling, no cracks in the case, no heat issues, everything is ok. And keep them in a lipo bag or anything made of metal(ammo can)when not in use. Don't let them scare you away. Lipos are awesome. They can produce speed and power and a nicad or NiMH cannot.
Chester Copperpot sorry to be a pain. I'll definitely admit; that I'm quite spooked. lol
I've read that the process is irreversible once the puffing begins. One thing I haven't seen though, is unplugging that charger once the puffing begins. Would this stop the process?
but then again, if your battery is contained while charging, I guess it's irrelevant.
catch 22
Its ok. When I got back into racing about five years ago, lipos were knew to me as well. Puffing usually occurs over use. I've had packs swell or puff after six-eight months of use. At this time, I throw them away or recycle them properly. Its rare that a pack will puff during charging, its more of a long term process or like I said, over a period of time from running. However, during a discharge is where you can see a heat issue. If a pack becomes say..10-15+ degrees hotter than the room temp of wherever you are charging, a cell may be bad. And yes, anytime a heat issue comes up, stopping the charge process or unplugging is exaclty what you do. Buy a temp gun or temp gauge, not only to monitor your motor and other electronics, but also to monitor your lipos during the charging, discharging process. Even though I've been charging for 5 years now, every time I charge, discharge I use a temp gun and take a reading every 8 minutes or so. Its normal for your charger to heat up some, but your lipo should never go above 12 or more degrees of the ambient temp. Also, I use a small table fan and turn it on pointing at my charger when I'm using it. Not needed per say, but anytime you can keep electronics cooler, its a good thing. But like I said, look for and watch for the warning signs and you'll be fine. In the five years, I've never had a lipo explode on me. Puffing? Yes. But that was almost always over a length of time from running it/them.
One of my battery packs was Cell1 (3.2V) Cell2 (3.2v) Cell3 (3.0V) Cell4 (3.0v). The charger recognized that the 2 cells were low and applied a 0.8A charge on the 6700mah 4s battery. The 3.0V cells got up to 3.1/3.2 after a few seconds but the charger stopped and threw a low voltage code. I removed the battery and plugged back in. During the time the battery was unplugged to when I plugged it back in all cells were at 3.2 or higher and the charger took off as normal. I performed a storage charge and all cells 30 minutes later appear to be holding well at 3.8 to 3.9. The 3.0 cells were only at 3.0V for about 10 minutes. The pack stayed cool during charge and there is no evidence of swelling. Am I good to go?
Yeah, you should be fine - the variance you speak of is perfectly normal while charging. It's when one cell is at 3.2 and the rest are at 3.9 is when there's an issue...but it can still be corrected
Thank you for the informative video.
thanks humble rc i will have to watch tje vidro again
Should I use 1a 2a or 3a I have this exact kit
Basically the higher the ams, the quicker it will charge. There's nothing harmful at that low of amperage.
@@TheRCNetwork ok thanks
what does it mean when the light is blinking green
very informative, thank you
Is this only for lipos
NiMH can withstand more than lipos, so be careful with NiMH still but this video is directed toward lipos
AllStealthBlazing okay
My RC truck came with a 3 cell that had a soft case
Doug Collingridge what's your point
thank you
U need do a video like this on tools
wow...last episode of the beginner series covered tools....along with 54 episodes of Tool Tuesday
Jeez what a pita! I should of bought a nitro rc truck instead of a lipo powered
Once you get used to Lipo, you're fine...but you have to always follow the rules
Using this for airsoft
I know what a lipo is I know what a nickel metal hydrate is what the heck is a laffey
"Life" is just a slightly different Lithium chemistry of battery - supposedly safer than Lipo.
Man, this batteries scare me like shit. Looks like using Plutonium or something like that.
Sadly this make me think if I'm really want to enter in this hobby. I really wants too, but I don't want to put my family, home, neighboors at risk.
I live in a Condo, I have thousands of dollars invested in Hi Fi Audio system and vinyl collection. I really don't want to put myself and my home at risk for that shitty batteries.
The first thing is respect the batteries and the idea of using them. Once you get past that, set rules and follow them. Finally, proper storage is also key - I use 50 Cal Ammo boxes to store all my batteries
@@TheRCNetwork
Yes I know, but even like this. Looks like I'm dealing with plutonium or something like that.
I'm not a racer, I just want a RC to "play" around the trails in my home town.
I live in a wooden building with smoke detectors everywhere. Even inside a ammo cage in case of malfunction, the cage can reach temperatures of 500 C or even more
I can't imagine going to a month vacations and thinking about the batteries everyday.
If I burn the complete building and destroy my neightboor properties. I will need my entire life to pay the damages.
Or after using the RC one of that batteries catch fire inside my car when I'm driving.
I will try with Nimh or Li-Fe batteries. I know the advantage of Lipos, but I don't want that things inside of my home and my car. Really
Too risky my friend. Thank you anyway for the good advices
After watching the video it never actually explained the functions. So sad. A 5 year old didn't miss that part .
This was a video on the basics of battery safety...not a review on the charger. read the title, buddy.
@The RCNetwork sure thing buddy. 👍
old intro