JOHN COLTRANE's "A LOVE SUPREME LIVE IN SEATTLE" REVIEWED
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- I believe this new release, documenting Trane's expanded A Love Supreme band, forever changes how we hear the studio version of "A Love Supreme." Agree? Disagree?
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Pure energy….supreme love, the genius of Coltrane!! What a fantastic review.Thank you so much! Can’t wait to hear the album!
Incredible verbal assessment of this recording. Truly makes me want to hear it if only to get a bird's eye view from Elvin's perspective. Ty!
Thanks Ken, great review. I bought the album off the back of this and have been playing it LOUD. Energy music indeed.
hey Ken, got my copy two days ago, me thinks tonight is as good as any to break this baby open to clean and play, great vid,,,cheers
Thanks so much. I was only 14 at the time Coltrane played in Seattle. I wish i
had been there. i'm sure hearing Elvin would have changed my concept of how
to play drums.
WOW! What a GREAT analysis! I really dug it mate 👍 I have collected vinyl and pretending to be an 'Audiophile' for over 40 years now, and I have TONS of Miles, but not that many from Coltrane. I do have a nice early 1973 pressing of A Love Supreme, but you make this live album sound amazing, and it's intriguing to hear your comments about the fidelity. So, I will definitely check it out, thanks Bro! 😁
I also really like your comments about the different playing styles of the various sax players. It's funny how I really like the style of a few players and how I don't care for some others. Maybe it's because I play guitar and compose myself (using the terms VERY loosely) I don't know... Like, for example, my favourite sax player overall is Eddie Harris. I had the privilege of seeing him live here nearby in San Diego about 30 years ago, and he was great! I just love his Funky, Groov'n style. And, I also really like his innovation with the electric mouthpiece and his experimenting, especially back then. I also like what I've heard from Cannonball Adderley. The kind of lead style that I prefer is I THINK what you are referring to as more 'Lyrical', I'm not sure... I know I really like when Charlie Parker goes off into outer space with his solos! What I really *DON'T* like is when a player does these short burst of repetitive phrases like what I've heard from Wayne Shorter or on the other end of the spectrum, the 'Elevator Jazz' of Kenny G. They just seem to keep playing the same short phrase over and over, or play 5 notes, pause, play 5 notes, pause - that start/stop style drives me up the frigg'n wall. BUT... where the solo player (for anything, Rock/Jazz/Blues guitar included) actually goes on these long runs up and down and around, THAT I really like 😊
Anyway, sorry to go on... But, with your amazing and inspiring review of this album here, I will most definitely check it out, thanks again Bro!
Wow awesome review. I can't wait to get my copy
One of the best reviews that you have ever done, in my opinion. Going to get my copy right now.
Your review could not have been more timely for me. My Copy of this record arrived Friday and as always with Trane it left me flumoxed. At least you explained it. I will listen some more. Thanks.
Now that's what I call a review 👏! Thanks ken for your insight 👍
Thanks for this wonderful insight into this version Ken. I am now seriously considering it....!!! 🙏
Thanks for bringing this up, love the studio version
Great review Ken. This is why jazz is best LIVE. As much as we love and fetishize the studio product, the live experience approaches the power and beauty of the expansive form and freedom of expression. This is a remarkable live recording. Thanks for sharing what matter and why this recording brings us closer to the greatness of A Love Supreme.
BTW, thumbs of the improved camera angle, lighting and pacing.
thank you very much! You're right.
Lovely review Ken, goes deep and it’s not just a scratching on surface kind of review with words like, amazing, gorgeous, it’s limited go get it. Appreciate honesty and I agree that the cover is hideous but in this case I would take the content over the presentation anytime.
Lovely presentation. Like to hear you review some British sixties jazz Ken. All the best from the UK 🇬🇧
Great review Ken, not heard the album yet but you have definitely sold me on it. I think the Miles/Coltrane Dragon recordings sound fantastic, which were recorded by a local radio station. If it sounds better than that it must be brilliant. Thanks for the review. All the best, Richard.
looking forward to hearing this one. thanks for the video
Great video and review
Thank you so much
Great review Ken, thank you. I’m looking forward to hearing this one.
The sound on the SHM-CD is awesome. No warps, pops/clicks and flipping the recording every 20 minutes, either! And the option of programming out the 'Interludes' (bass/drum solos) if one wants the ensemble only- it flows seamlessly without them so it seems it may have been intentionally edited this way.
Nice review but a couple of inaccuracies- the Antibes gig of 'A Love Supreme' was a professional recording not from the audience; Coltrane biographer Lewis Porter does the play-by-play commentary of the solos in the liner notes not Ashley Khan; 'Ascension' and 'Sun Ship' did not follow this gig but were recorded at the end of June and August 1965, respectively. To my ears, this is very much a companion piece to the earlier 'Live in Seattle' (1971)- recorded two days before- rather than the studio recording of 'A Love Supreme.' It seems the expanded ensemble of 'Ascension' really took hold of Coltrane's thinking by this point and there was no turning back.
Will need to get this, such an ambitious work!
Very interesting Review, learned a lot about Coltrane in this transition Phase of him
I wish the documentary was as insightful.
Wynton Kelly and Wes Montgomery also have a live Penthouse recording, "Smokin' in Seattle." The Johnny Griffin/Eddie Davis recording was pretty good, too. Look forward to listening to this one.
In general I am not a fan of live recordings, but am a big fan of A Love Supreme, after hearing your review I am going to go for it. Thanks for the lucid and thoughtful evaluation.
Please let me know what you think of it after you’ve given it a good listen
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 I am finishing my first listen right now, interlude side D. For me this is a 4 out of 5. The music is fantastic, better than I was expecting. The soundstage/stereo separation etc. Is not that great. The drums are a bit louder but to me that enhances the sound. It just seems "wide panned" to me. Still a very good record and a must have for fans of A Love Supreme. I am glad I bought it for sure.
Thanks for this useful and excellent review!
A lesson in Jazz, well beyond Coltrane. And with a good dose of passion, as usual! Great Review…
Superb review. Thanks for sharing your insights.
The Dragon Miles and Coltrane 1960 came out in the 1980's on vinyl as did the Miles/ Sonny Stitt dble LP from Sweden 1960.
That Bass Desires album is awesome . Resolution & Samurai Hee-Haw are My faves from that one. Thanks for mentioning.
Ken ,thanks for the great review . If only Impulse ! would re-release the complete 1965 ``Live in Seattle`` recordings which would also include Afro-Blue , Lush Life and Body and Soul as well as Cosmos, Out of This World, Evolution and Tapestry in Sound .Get on it Impulse !!!
Beautiful review
Got the notice of a pending shipment today. Looking forward to hosting a listening party.
Adding to my collection asap. Is there a specific release to obtain? It’s flooded on the market in the best way possible. This is a great addition no matter what one’s perspective is. Thank you for the review.
re the Miles on Dragon? The Coltrane live in seattle a love supreme is a new release. There's no other version of this concert in a different release.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 Regarding, Coltrane. I’ve seen some releases from Japan. Obviously different artwork. Had no idea this was a new release. I listened to this about 3 times. You are indeed correct. Elvin Jones really nails it. Finally a new classic. Thanks again! It’s a shame in this day and age the design aesthetic was a toss..
Great vid. Thanks!
Hard record to listen too, and Coltrane is my favorite. Took me several play throughs to even understand when the suite begins. Definitely would not recommend this to anyone but the most ardent Coltrane lover.
You said it all, thanks!
What a wonderful review. 📿
very interesting video ! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
Love me some free jazz Coltrane. I picked up that Live In Seattle record you showed down here at Waterloo Records.
Speaking of Brotzmann, he just passed a couple weeks ago.
Damn this is a good review. As a huge Coltrane fan and someone who holds this particular album in high regard, this was an essential buy.
I agree that this is a great companion piece to ALS itself and it’s not for the uninitiated.
It took me a few listens to find my way on this edition. I honestly wasn’t ready when I first put this on. However, I almost couldn’t stop listening once I really dialed in.
It’s a visceral album and yes it indeed puts to right there off to the side of Elvin’s drum kit.
A Love Supreme is an album I can listen to at any time in practically any mood.
Real good overview sir
Great review Thanks man
Great stuff man
This recording sounds so good that not only do I not understand the complaints, I also do not even understand the mention of it in all the pressers. The presser mentions of the sound should have been started with "For those who do not understand what live music is..."
Pressers?
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 Several places online selling it have the same four sentence paragraph with "While not studio-quality audio, the power of the performance shines through." I assumed it came from whoever the distributor is.
Great album! Love it! Spun it earlier tonight. My copy is pretty warped unfortunately.
Mine is slightly warped too
Great Elvin Jones record.
Elvin jones is just amazing on this live recording
Almost perfect álbum, the only downside is that coltrane sax doesn't Sound loud enough 😥
I LOVE the Pharoah Sanders shrieking !!! It’s beautifully emotive !!
Hmm..I'd give this a solid 7/10. I'm a BIG Coltrane fan, owning over 100 albums of his work but this recording was a little disappointing, though I do like the album cover :-) It's wonderful to have a previously unknown
( live ) recording of A Love Supreme ( by the way, if A Love Supreme and Coltrane is seemingly so integral to your musical journey, I'm staggered you've never heard the Antibes recording ) but I find the mix in the recording rather annoying. The sound quality is OK but not much more. I've heard and bought much worse ( owning many old blues albums of shocking quality but great performances ) and it's obviously great to hear any live jazz small club recording but the very fact that Coltrane is deep in the mix ( and Jones to the fore ) is to these ears, unfortunate. There's been a rash in recent years of newly discovered live recordings by many Jazz artists so this " problem " isn't unique to this album. I'll continue to buy them but I doubt they'll be regularly placed on the turntable.
you like the cover but not the music?! Your collection is far larger than mine. but I like this version very much.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 To be fair,I didn't say I don't like the music,I said It's OK, I was just underwhelmed ( as in fact I was by the ANtibes performance). I think that A Love Supreme is such a monumental recording, bordering on that cliche, a religious experience ( I first heard it when I was 15, many, many years ago and it blew me away )..it's way beyond jazz and has a place in culture all its very own, that sometimes our senses are less than objective and become highly subjective to each and every one of us.
Just picked this up based on the review. I do like the LP and will play it again but on the whole it is disappointing. Much of the recording is a godawful cacophony with poor sound quality. At times you can barely hear Trane's horn much more than a distorted whistle. Sound quality is definitely an "F". However the energy and full on determination of the work does shine through somehow and make it a keeper. But man it could have been so, so much better. Peace.
The drums and piano sound fantastic. Horns are low in the mix. "cacophony" is subjective. How could it have been better? More horn? Less cacophony? That was Trane's trajectory, more freedom.
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 definitely a more balanced mix- but the drums and piano sounded very good.
One thing I love about the studio album (right up there as one of my favorites of all time) is how the sax just projects into the room, the first notes burst out of nowhere and the ride begins.
Here the sax is muted, muffled at times and lots of background noise. But the energy is sky high and the performance works.
Combine the balance of the studio LP (OK, drums and piano can stay up front too) with this performance- oh man !
You’re right Ken, just how bad is that cover! Shame on them. Not as bad as the truly awful Ayler live in Greenwich Village CD reissue around 20 years ago but still. C’mon let’s have proper artwork for artists.
Ok Ken, I tried again. You and I share some common things. We are both audiophiles, we're both drummers, we're both jazz guys. My jazz sensibilities are more traditional than yours. I know that from reading your reviews and watching you here. Anyway, using your insight, I went back and listened to this record again. I was on the stage, on Elvin's throne. And I followed the liner notes to know who was playing music and who was just making noise. Pharoh - noise maker in chief. What was Trane thinking? So here is where my head is now: No wonder Elvin and McCoy quit shortly after this fiasco. Sorry man, for me this is A Love Supreme run amok.
I might pick this up in the used bin in a few years from now - I have a feeling I will be able to find this quite easy at a much better price soon enough. I kind of wish they would re-release some better sounding Live albums that have been out of print for 50 years than pulling out old bootlegs and releasing them as official releases. I know you seem to be a fan of Renaissance Records and that Sonny Rollins in Holland but I am less enthusiastic of these releases and feel kind of played (like a Pharaoh Sanders Sax - hahaha).
Which live records out of print for 50 years?
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 I didn't have any title in mind in particular, but since you asked, how about a nice audiophile release of "Red Garland - Live!" or "Philly Joe Jones* & Elvin Jones - Together!" ? Most people (myself included), haven't covered the basics of what there is to learn and listen to in the Jazz world with regard to major titles. I just feel the industry investing in promoting in bootleg material with so much music left on the table so to speak isn't benefiting the Jazz vinyl community. Maybe I'm wrong in my assumption?
@@jasonhoffer9017 Id take it further. The labels continue to reissue the same artists like grave robbers. Columbia has run out of Miles Davis ideas--though there are many, many unreleased MIles dates on Columbia, so now they re do old Miles albums. And they ignore Duke Ellington, who they could make a new star if they have him have the attention they have paid Miles. The thing about issuing bootlegs, and they're often better than bootleg quality, is the specialty of a few labels like Reel to Reel, Resonance, some are better than others. But there's an audience or they wouldn't do it. People LOVE Bill Evans so they keep issuing sessions.
I respect your opinion, but my experience with this amateur recordings (like Resonance) is not good. I prefer a BN, Prestige, Impulse etc studio recording.
You can’t really compare the two. Resonance recordings are taken from live recordings from the 60s. Not studio recordings in a controlled environment. And what you’re ignoring is the performance. Hey, but you’re welcome to your opinion.
Resonance also released some other time by bill evans. Recording which has been re-printed because it is so popular. That was from the studio environment. And whatever you do don’t listen to Coltrane live from the Village Vanguard or from Temple University.
Did you listen ??? This is great !!
Who cares about people's reviews,
I agree it's a stunning album, but I do find the extended bass and drum solos kind of unnecessary. Well worth the money though imho.
I can always listen to Elvin Jones drum solo but I was a drummer. And Jimmy garrisons bass solo is rather profound, but then there’s another bass solo? I hear you