Saint Coltrane: The Church Built On 'A Love Supreme' | JAZZ NIGHT IN AMERICA
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2021
- "I have seen God - I have seen ungodly - none can be greater - none can compare to God."
John Coltrane composed these words in December 1964, as part of a poem he called 'A Love Supreme.' He included the poem in the inside gatefold of an album by the same name, released the following year. That same year, a young couple in San Francisco heard Coltrane in concert, sharing a jolt of higher purpose when he seemed to fix them in his sights with the bell of his saxophone.
That couple, Franzo and Marina King, went on to establish a church devoted to Coltrane and his spiritual message, incorporating 'A Love Supreme' as their chief liturgical text. Their house of worship - known today as the St. John Will-I-Am Coltrane African Orthodox Church - has survived decades of change in a gentrifying city, while making a few notable revisions to its charter.
In this 20-minute documentary short, Jazz Night in America pays a visit to the Coltrane Church, thoughtfully tracing its winding history - including a tumultuous period when Alice Coltrane, John's widow, bestowed and then revoked her support. We'll delve into the spiritual mysteries of 'A Love Supreme,' from "Acknowledgment" to "Psalm," and consider what it means to be of service - to a calling, to a community, and to the music that sparked it all. - NATE CHINEN
- Read more about the church’s backstory here: www.npr.org/2020/09/23/915846...
MUSIC CREDITS
“A Love Supreme, Pt. I - Acknowledgement” / Performed by John Coltrane / Courtesy of The Verve Music Group under license from Universal Music Enterprises
“A Love Supreme, Pt. II - Resolution” / Performed by John Coltrane / Courtesy of The Verve Music Group under license from Universal Music Enterprises
“A Love Supreme, Pt. III - Pursuance” / Performed by John Coltrane / Courtesy of The Verve Music Group under license from Universal Music Enterprises
“A Love Supreme, Pt. IV - Psalm” / Performed by John Coltrane / Courtesy of The Verve Music Group under license from Universal Music Enterprises
“India” / Performed by John Coltrane / Courtesy of The Verve Music Group under license from Universal Music Enterprises
“Russian Lullaby” / Performed by John Coltrane / Written by Irving Berlin / Published by Irving Berlin Music Company (ASCAP) / Administered by Williamson Music Company (ASCAP)
“My Favorite Things” / Performed by Alice Coltrane / Written by Richard Rodgers, Oscar Hammerstein II (ASCAP) / c/o Concord Music Publishing
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My favorite Coltrane quote..."The emotional reaction is all that matters...after all, I used to love music myself long before i could even identify a G minor 7th chord"
"It's not about notes, its about feeling" - Albert Ayler 🎷🙏
@@astrojazzman Ayler never said that.
@@rinahall he's quoted as having said that all over the internet, including on his own website.
@@steeping no
@@rinahall you can't use google?
I went to a funeral service there for a friend's daughter a couple of years ago. It was a very moving service with the music bringing us into a fellowship and a start to our healing. The church has long offered a place of spiritual healing for the community, especially for those that don't feel comfortable in traditional churches and religions. I am also a big fan of Coltrane's music, but I wanted folks for to know that this church is a real place of healing and support for many and not some sort of eccentric tribute to a jazz legend .
Yes! My mom and Dad used to take me there in the 60's and 70's ...and you are so right with your comments.
Bless you. and thank you
Indeed, I would visit all through the 90’s - their outreach to former gang members, the unhoused, and their soup kitchen AFTER the service where all were welcome to commune were deep, impactful experiences for me 20 something self.
My DAD💔 who is with GOD now,, took me to my first jazz concert when l was 3yrs old: DAVE BRUBECK. My ear was always stuck near the left speaker at home. DAD💔, you left me a GREAT LEGACY, YOU.💔, & the music & musician l am now. I MISS YOU DAD 💔. I drop that stylus on, you’re there. I’m waiting for you to come & get me; what a band of musos that will be there DAD! ❤️ ( And My BEETHOVEN). LOVE YOU DAD. ✨❤️
Lucky. Great story.
i.played A Love Supreme through headphones on my pregnant baby mothers stomach throughout the pregnancy. My Son is exceptionally tailored for this new era, he is 20 years old
First time I visited this church, my cousin told Bishop King I was in town performing at Kimballs. He looked at me and said, ‘You know I’m gonna put you to work, right?’ Great family.
Love to npr for making this program
Absolutely...
As a young saxophonist in SF in the 70's I knew these folks, especially the late Bishop Roberto De Haven. Very good folks, sincere, spiritual and very for real!!!
Bet ya'll have some cool stories!
When I was 21 years old I was starting on the conservatory (M.I.T.)in Amsterdam. My major was jazz guitar. I had heard some Coltrane but it didn’t resonate deeply with me at that time. To earn some money, me and a friend signed up to guard and live in a ‘high risk’ building for two weeks. We had no idea what that entailed, but we could do with some extra cash and adventure. The building was an old school, situated on the brink of Rotterdam’s poorest suburbs. Turned out the school was located near a garage run by ex- convicts. And all this time we wondered why there would be a cue of cars past midnight in this dead end street. We found a bunch of syringes and needles in our building and that is when we started to realize this endeavour our actually wás high risk. We had to stay there and only leave the building for groceries or very urgent matters and report to the man every early morning. The whole area seemed so grim. People in the streets looked unhappy. Abandoned buildings with windows barricaded. On the horizon was a huge industrial area near the harbour of Rotterdam. We could see the flames coming from the chimneys of the oil refinement factories, reflecting in our windows. And the junkies cueing up in their cars was our view. Life seemed so harsh. An old lady, whom I barely knew had given me a cassette tape. Check this out, she said. When I sat alone in this room looking out the window, hearing John Coltrane’s Chim Chim Cheree for the first time, I was born again. I couldn’t believe how he spoke directly to my soul, finally showing me how deep love can be. How I needn’t doubt people have souls. How much energy his music (elevated by Elvin, McCoy and Jimmy) brought to my life. Later on I had the same experience with the Love Supreme album. The part in track 3, ‘Pursuance’ where Coltrane takes over after the piano solo is such an explosion of life energy that I can’t listen to it without crying. Time after time. Trane has changed my life.
Much love to those who created this content, God and to Coltrane.
You're welcome my son. God.
Thanks for making this NPR. Forever John Coltrane and A Love Supreme!
“A Love Supreme” has a lyrical, emotional quality. The suite swells ecstatically and hushes dramatically. It has the conversational cadences of a prayer, and the transcendent quality of a dream. The final movement, “Psalm,” was conceptualized as a musical recitation of a devotional poem included in the liner notes. Each emphatic, incandescent tone from Coltrane’s horn is a syllable uttered in supplication to a higher power. [WBUR] 12:00
This premiered on February 3rd...My Dear Mother Shirley Yvonne Footes' Birthday....WOW! This is the church where I grew up and worshipped with her and my Dad Trevor Vincent Foote. . This is absolutely Amazing .....Mr. John Coltranes' Legacy remains Eternal! I feel it to be an exceptional honor indeed to have grown up here in the late 60s early 70's and to see that it still exists.
The album itself is a masterpiece. Coltrane will forever be unparalleled
Coltrane was careful to say that while he was raised Christian, his searchings had led him to realize that all religions had a piece of the truth. Only once did Coltrane perform the entire "Love Supreme" suite live, and there are no recorded interviews in which he talks about the album's personal significance.
In September 1982, Coltrane was officially canonized as a saint by the AOC. [NPR] 6:19
Now this what I call Church 😊🎶🙌🎷🎷🎷
Man, just seeing this. I had no idea. What a blessing and I hope one day I can make it out to San Francisco to experience this. This is quite heavy.
When I was in SF around 20 years ago, my friend mentioned about this church but not opened anymore.. Since then I wondered it was really existed.. Noe I finally found its still there and welcoming people.
Along with a great group of fellow-Long Islanders-I'm a volunteer with the John & Alice Home restoration project for the home John wrote A Love Supreme in: Dix Hills, Long Island. I look forward to one day experiencing "his" California Church.
Wow so awesome I used to teach a class at UCLA about Impulse Records & John Coltrane 🎷
I'm so glad they've been livestreaming services, it's really awesome to check out and participate in celebration of the spirit that Coltrane brought through his music
Finally a video on this! Visiting the church of John Coltrane changed my life 2 years ago
From the liner notes:
DEAR LISTENER
ALL PRAISE BE TO GOD TO WHOM ALL PRAISE IS DUE
...
May we never forget that in the sunshine of our lives, through the storm and after the rain-it is all with God-in all ways and forever.
ALL PRAISE TO GOD
with love to all I thank you,
John Coltrane
A Love Supreme
I will do all I can to be worthy of Thee, O Lord. It all has to do with it. Thank You God. Peace.
There is none other.
God is. It is so beautiful.
Thank You God. God is all.
Help us to resolve our fears and weaknesses.
Thank you god.
In you all things possible.
We know. God made us so.
Keep your eye on god.
God is. He always was. He always will be.
No matter what...it is god.
He is gracious and merciful.
It is most important that I know Thee.
Words, sounds, speech, men, memory, thoughts, fears and emotions-time-all related...all made in one.
Blessed be His name.
Thought waves-heat waves-all vibrations-all paths lead to God. Thank you God.
His way...it is so lovely...it is gracious.
It is merciful-Thank you God.
One thought can produce millions of vibrations and they all go back to God... everything does.
Thank you God.
Have no fear... believe... Thank you God.
The universe has many wonders. God is all.
His way... it is so wonderful.
Thoughts--deeds--vibrations, etc.
They all go back to God and He cleanses all.
He is gracious and merciful... Thank you God.
Glory to God... God is so alive.
God is.
God loves.
May I be acceptable in Thy sight.
We are all one in His grace.
The fact that we do exist is acknowledgement of Thee, O Lord.
Thank you God.
God will wash away all our tears...He always has...He always will.
Seek him everyday. In all ways seek God everyday.
Let us sing all songs to God.
To whom all praise is due... praise God.
No road is an easy one, but they all go back to God.
With all we share God.
It is all with God.
It is all with Thee.
Obey the Lord.
Blessed is He.
We are all from one thing... the will of God...Thank you God.
I have seen God-I have seen ungodly-none can be greater-none can compare to God.
Thank you God.
God breathes through us so completely...so gently we hardly feel it... yet, it is our everything.
Thank you God.
ELATION-ELEGANCE-EXALTATION-
All from God.
Thank you God. Amen.
- John Coltrane
December, 1964
Human nature can take us in many directions. This Coltrane music inspired version point to a supreme direction. This is good.
Viewing this I'm recalling my visit to the church in a storefront on Divisadero Street a few blocks from where I lived. On Divisadero Street and in nearby neighborhoods there were numerous jazz clubs, and we were blessed with the best & greatest artists coming through. Glad to see this bit of history is being shared!
Thank you for the memories!
That felt like the greatest intro to a documentary, or docuseries, that I n e e d to see happen. Really awesome work everyone that worked on this, that was really amazing!
Thank you for the free content
When I'm in the garden, I can see the plants feeding off the vibrations from both the Classics and the highly syncopated rhythms of America's original Art Form. Sunday Evenings are worth staying till dark.
Still a powerful spiritual statement..I still remember how this album blew me away way back when...It is such a blessing to be able to still do that in this time and place...
Asante Sana John Coltrane.
Beautiful Story
I remember the church on Divisadero. As a young Trane fanatic - I listened to him all the time - I was always fascinated by this church. I’m not a religious person so I only went in the church a few times but there can be no doubt that Trane’s path brought him to a place where he was channeling freely musical inspiration at the very highest level. And what a miracle that we have so many recordings to enjoy ❤
PS: wonderful documentary!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOUUUUUU BLESS
John Coltrane is speaking in tongues at times on A Love Supreme
I hope this church is able to operate while still being safe under the current COVID-19 restrictions :)
If they're like my Buddhist temple, they're holding services online on zoom/RUclips and people stay home and watch. When things are ever back to normal, I want to visit this place.
@@alexcarter8807 it’s truly a spiritual experience!
What a beautiful documentary. Heard of the church but this piece was very informative. Hats off to the filmmakers and the Church.
❤. Thank you ❤
The Father - John Coltrane 🎷
The Son - Pharaoh sanders 🎷
The holy spirit - Albert Ayler 🎷
🙏
Trump - the GOAT
Amen
@@rinahall Trump=Biden. They're both fake. Take this L.
Oh you. God bless
@@rinahall 🤣🤣🤣
Beautiful report
Thank you so much for this documentary. "A Love Supreme" been blowing my mind for years now. Didn't know about this church but it makes perfect sense.
This is a lot like Foul Quince's Post from a couple of weeks back. Good to see Coltrane getting some props.
Fantastic documentary, bravo!
Thanks a lot for this amazing story!
Thank you
John Coltrane es un hombre bueno y justo que conoció a Jesucristo y nos ayuda a conocerle a muchos. Conocer a Jesucristo y seguirle es todo lo que tenemos que hacer los hombres. A LOVE SUPREME.
The interview that was done in Japan, when J.C. says " i want to become a Saint " was recorded and still exists. ( see Lewis Porter) . Clearly John and Alice were kidding because they were both laughing after he made the statement.
I really need to visit this church.
Love Trane !!!
💖ASANTE SANA ❣LOVE SUPREME ❣🎷🎶💃🦋
Makes me miss my Hometown.
My best friend for my birthday surprised me with a visit to his house on a 24 hour trip in New York,where he wrote the album.It was like visiting Mecca
This is so dope come on now🔥
Wow! There is something spiritual about Love Supreme. I'm glad I took the time to watch this. We definitely visit the church the next time I'm in the Bay.
Thanks so much for posting!
A true Saint that walked this earth.
I love this aspect ratio.
Wow of course I knew of this church but not how deep their beliefs went and it's wonderful, thank you so much for the upload, praise God.
awesome video. Thanks!
Music in Africa is sacred, a portal to God and the realm of the divine. In ancient Nubia, Egypt and Nigeria the high priests studied music in the mystery schools, taking 20 years to master an instrument. Coltrane is cut from a long line of African high priests, bringing people to the truth of the divine through music🎶🎶🎷
Africa played a major role in the earliest days of Christianity. Monasticism took root there, and Alexandria produced many great theologians. Athanasius's, Cyril, Clement. Ethiopia keeps very ancient traditions. Europeans know about Augustine, but many forget he was from Libya!
@@rustybeltway2373 That is true, but what I'm talking about is organized spirituality that predated Christianity by 5000 years. The building blocks of music as a spiritual portal to God in Africa predates all Abrahamic religions by thousands of years.
@@epiphanyx3705 Music comes from AFRICA like all of humanity. Stop being fragilie and JEALOUS. It's so annoying how you people are always so triggered by being the last in everything, hating on the FIRST in your eternal war of INSECURITY 🙄
@@rustybeltway2373 Augustine was born and died in actual algeria
We're the aboriginals of this land. We ain't from no Africa. We're the Lost tribes of Israel
This is amazing I love it thank you so much for posting it
Amazing!
Wow!
WONDERFUL!!!!
Yes finally a church I will attend :)
Thank You
reverence for human excellence
Thanks!
Beautiful
Absolutely Ace!
Love in the house
Wow, this was great
This is awesome and thank you!
I love it
Beautiful music fine tunes your life. Thank you.
So good
I ate at their free meal when I first arrived in S.F. Really nice food on the back porch of the storefront on Divisidero, thought that place was fascinating but I never did attend the service. New space looks nice even if it's only part-time.
the fact that a single piece of music can bring people together on this level is mindblowing. A Love Supreme is completely unchallenged as the greatest record of all time imo.
Stuck at home for 6 weeks this past spring, I spent several hours a day playing my guitar along with the "Love Supreme" album. I was not doing so to improve as a musician, although that did happen. I was looking to tap into a spiritual wellspring that seemed to be there.
its called practice you pretentious silly person....
@@RobertSlover oh right 😄
Amen!!!...
Excelente documental y me gusta mucho el abordaje que hace Christian Mcbride.
Thanks
Christian McBride narrated this piece 🙏🏽👏🏿👏🏿
Roberto de Haven was a big part of the church.
i always want to go here, but i'm never in SF on a sunday for some reason.
They've been on Zoom! Follow them on Facebook to tune in.
@@joshlipson1139 facebook is over
@@rillloudmother alright. just tryna help you out
@@joshlipson1139 good lookin' out, but i really want to attend a service there. it's like 1 mile from the hotel i usually stay at on market...
@@joshlipson1139 thank you so much! @rilloudmother - make the effort to go in person. i got to go a few times in 1999 and it was amazing
Coltrane was the bridge
And Rollins was on the bridge
@@rinahall Inextricably intertwined ;)
you pretentious silly person....
@@RobertSlover You banal and lonely sad sack
@@strangersname so you prefer bridges of sassiness eh? no content bot.
NPR much love
Narration by bassist Christian McBride
Aloha from Maui, ❤☯️☪️🕉 . I use to visit on Alice Coltrane land witnessing the spiritual community there. I had words with her, but mostly I was raised on the John Coltrane music, I agree ❤Saint John Coltrane ‘ has been part of my spiritual Journey. Then I toured with Miss Nina Simone. Leah Tunkara
This kinda reminds me of the Rolingas, Rolling Stones fans in Argentina. Music is religion
Interesting choice of aspect ratio. I think that Alice Coltrane lawsuit was either like Reverend Marina said that to bring more attention to their temple or divine intervention by John, telling her to let them keep worshipping... or both?
Loved this program! I wonder if the lawsuit was the initiation that Alice Coltrane had previously referenced. Perhaps it was intended as a test of Franzo, Marina, and the community's fidelity to the spiritual principles that Trane espoused. Especially given the way that the lawsuit was inexplicably dropped.
There was another on Divisadero.
Estaría genial que le agregaran subtítulos en español 🙏☺️
en pc se pueden configurar que lo traduzca al momento y si funciona
@@sergiorp7599 ok muchas gracias!
Ha sido raro... Pero interesante.
great doc! anyone know the song at 2:26?
Se llama Intimity (Eddie Warner)
@@marianovega1979 hmm i can't find anything of that name online
Waka waka alt take
@@marianovega1979 mariano me estoy rompiendo el coco con la cancion del minuto 1:39, sabes algo??, se ha convertido en una necesidad imperante para mi.
Can somebody help me ¿? im trying to find the song start after the phrase "IT ALL STARTED WITH A LOVE STORY" MIN 1:39, PLEASE
Look in the description my friend, all the songs used in the video are listed there!
Eddie Warner - Intimity
@@slavalasta5566 thank you so very much
A Love Supreme
a Love Supreme
A love Supreme
A Love supreme
a love supreme
A Love supreme
A love Supreme
a Love Supreme
A Love Supreme
Either you get it or you don't.
Does anyone know the name of the Coltrane song in the beginning?
Waka waka
One from the love supreme album
Is that Kamau Bell narrating?
Christian McBride!
Perhaps one thing, what about Jimmy Garrison, Elvin Jones, McCoy Tyner, Pharoah Sanders...? People who played with Coltrane?
The hairs still stand up when I hear that album.
any know the music @ 1:38?
im in the same way, is amazing !!! i need it, if you find first share with me, i will do the same.
@@frnkgrx sure!!
Me too!🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
There is a Maradona church also…..I hope once we get a Sara Jay church. She is also a saint.
We need not go that far; it's true Coltrane isn't really a saint, in any case the days of saints have long passed. Neither is Maradona a saint of course. Would rather not comment on your final remark.
But there really is something about Coltrane's music that strikes a spiritual note with people. And while the man lived a somewhat normal life, he had a wife, kids, went on tours, made money, loved to eat nice food (all this in the final years of his life dubbed the most spiritual by people), had more earthly possessions than most saints, etc. etc., he deserves respect, though perhaps not as a saint.
This church as we can see was made in a very interesting period in San Francisco that is late 60s. The couple went way way too far by likening John Coltrane to God, but at the time this kind of went along with the general craziness of San Francisco. I would bet they were taking some hallucinogens at the time perhaps this enhanced further their experience of Coltrane. I think they are also a bit gullible: having met Alice, they almost became Hinduists. It seems they kept their actions to their local area and didn't care about having Coltrane officially recognized as a saint (which he isn't), moreover their church has been recognized by the African Orthodox Church which sounds like a real governing body but is in fact a schismatic church within USA, not recognized by say Ethiopian or Coptic Orthodox Churches I believe.
@@svetozarkuzman2924 it was a joke with the maradona church. I am interested only in the music of Coltrane until 1962. I dont care about his spiritual journey.