I’m only level 33 and don’t have any of the “move around” group, so I’ve just been coping with toth and archi. I’m not about to farm Ahriman, so it’ll have to do for now.
No shame in that. I try to give out the most optimal builds top guilds use. But I understand not everybody has access to these characters. You can substitute the move around characters with aleph null and eldryon. Both of them are very good characters with lots of utility in all parts of the game.
Eldryon got much more synergy than you made it seem: 1) yaz 2-3 hits (2 from abra passive, 3 when you add active) 2) abra gets 2 hits melee for 2-3 turns once you max neuro stacks. The flame damage is boosted by ahri and with eldryon it usualy hit harder than his range. 3) abra summons get 11 hits on the turn they are summoned, and can have many many more in consecutive turns. 4) ahri active got 9 hits from active, and 2 with abra passive
A niche idea: Abarax's passive works on demon's melee attack. Azkor is a demon and he can hit quite hard with his passive and traits if we cam take advantage of the pox walkers and elder minions, while doing some parasite stacks for neuro. I guess this is kinda like death leaper.
Only just unlocked abrax so finally getting my neuro gang together. Dont have any of your 3 'move around' trio so typically run eldryon and archematos as i have both at gold 1 which is my highest level so far. But really useful to see where i should ficus.
I'm looking at guild wars with limited use of each unit, how can I apply this info best? I have the core and Roswitha. Until i finish farming ahriman, should i stick with my gold deathleaper, winged prime, or eldryon, or go with silver volk, toth, or corrodius? My roswitha is pretty weak and im working on her and my neurothrope to get them to gold. I have a gold isabella and a super boosted diamond celestine that is way ahead of the rest of the pack but i like using them with Yarrick and winged prime and then usually aethana.
Got d3 roswitha leg gold 1 nuerothorpe uninvested vitrouivus need 15 onslaughts for leg abraxaus and probably fully built yazghor epic has to be good enough no ahriman but i have a workable core team.
I'm level 50. I ran the usual eldryon multi hit team, but like 2 months ago went to leveling admech. I got rho at d1, gida g2, sho g3, eldryon d2, aleph d1. I don't reslly know what the admech meta "perfect" build is, so should I be swapping or leveling different dudes? Or just crank out rho/aleph/sho to d3?
What about Actus? without him youre gonne struggle. Otherwise: Exi up to D3 first to tank L5 screamer. Tangida passive up to 50, but G3 is sufficient for now. Alpeh and Revas also need to be D3 against high level Morty, Avatar, Screamer. Eldy should be OK for now, Sho also. In the end everybody should be D3!! Skills: Exi 50/50, gida 35/50 (higher active is fine, but not priority), Actus 1/40+, Revas 45+/40+, Aleph 45+/45+ Sho 35+/50
Morty isn't that dangerous, he spends a lot of time getting ready for attacks and whenever he does single target attacks you can control who he hits. Abrax becomes a punching dummy when needed though :D
@@DraupnirWhatitdo lv50 para and d3 neuro here. been doing this team since it came together. Def rate Mahko, but think that vit Ahriman is locked in also. So really you'll be swapping 1 in and out. Its Roswitha with daemons for sure. Rate Vitrivus elsewhere. Mahkotep let's you get para turn 1 and you can use adaptive strategy for him to get stacks, or just move of the screamers to summon more. He's okay.
@@boybibimbap20 Against mortarion he can be low since mortarion will go after psykers if you play carefully. However, against avatar you want him high enough where yaz can take some punishment.
Roswitha's passive only works on psykers. And iirc Khaine does not have the Psyker trait. Thus, her passive wouldn't work on him based on wording. I wouldn't know if this is different practically though. If it is true that her passive doesn't work, does this mean Vitruvius is better than Roswitha for Khaine? Or is her active still much stronger? (Ofc, her active still works on him)
I have a high level Neuro team - Against Khaine, Ros and Yaz are "mostly" on kill summon duty the whole fight until their actives are needed. Abra's damage (have hime at D1) doesn't seem to be enough to reliably take that job. Ive been leveling Vitruvius but really am not sure if Ill get to use him against L4 or L5 Khaine bc those summons are so nasty and need Yaz and him on cleanup so wouldnt get his passive on Khaine. Might be useful lower if your heroes can live and you can use abra for cleanup. Thats the main issue I see. Maybe after leveling up my Abra and Yaz past D1 might change.
@@tehfelf That's interesting insight. Thanks for sharing, dude! I don't have a heavily built raid team yet so I'm trying to decide which 5 to commit to. So it's nice to know how it's practically like at higher raid tiers
@@faisalzainal9021 no worries man, hope it helped! i will give one more bit of caution/advice - only do Neuro team if you just like the idea of psykers lol. What i mean is that the mech team and even multihit team will outshine you in most places and the mech team has a much higher damage ceiling. Psychic damage is 100% armor pierce, so you will alway do the same damage. Even against like uncommon level bosses. 300k-400k damage is impressive against L4 Khaine.....but not against like R1 Khaine lol The higher the armor, the better you do bc the less damage the other teams can do. However, at super high levels, the mech team just does so much damage it breaks past that armor pierce limitation. Im finding psyker team is best against Mort and Khaine, but theres a better squad for every other boss. Something worth keeping in mind.
I’m only level 33 and don’t have any of the “move around” group, so I’ve just been coping with toth and archi. I’m not about to farm Ahriman, so it’ll have to do for now.
No shame in that. I try to give out the most optimal builds top guilds use. But I understand not everybody has access to these characters. You can substitute the move around characters with aleph null and eldryon. Both of them are very good characters with lots of utility in all parts of the game.
Eldryon got much more synergy than you made it seem:
1) yaz 2-3 hits (2 from abra passive, 3 when you add active)
2) abra gets 2 hits melee for 2-3 turns once you max neuro stacks. The flame damage is boosted by ahri and with eldryon it usualy hit harder than his range.
3) abra summons get 11 hits on the turn they are summoned, and can have many many more in consecutive turns.
4) ahri active got 9 hits from active, and 2 with abra passive
Man audio quality really sucked with this video.
I'm sorry about that.
It wasn't that bad, could have been FAR worse.
Last minute has any useful info. It's why you're here.
Early on I found aunshi to be great for double yaz ult.
Great help for my next line up 👊🏼
Brainbug is the bees’ knees!
A niche idea: Abarax's passive works on demon's melee attack. Azkor is a demon and he can hit quite hard with his passive and traits if we cam take advantage of the pox walkers and elder minions, while doing some parasite stacks for neuro.
I guess this is kinda like death leaper.
It’s useful, but it isn’t MIN/MAX META so that’s unacceptable.
@@Jay-dj3tw agreed. I hope there will be more demon characters in future. It might bceome a meta one day
Only just unlocked abrax so finally getting my neuro gang together.
Dont have any of your 3 'move around' trio so typically run eldryon and archematos as i have both at gold 1 which is my highest level so far.
But really useful to see where i should ficus.
I'm looking at guild wars with limited use of each unit, how can I apply this info best? I have the core and Roswitha. Until i finish farming ahriman, should i stick with my gold deathleaper, winged prime, or eldryon, or go with silver volk, toth, or corrodius? My roswitha is pretty weak and im working on her and my neurothrope to get them to gold. I have a gold isabella and a super boosted diamond celestine that is way ahead of the rest of the pack but i like using them with Yarrick and winged prime and then usually aethana.
I know you said no winged prime BUT the teaaaammmmm
Got d3 roswitha leg gold 1 nuerothorpe uninvested vitrouivus need 15 onslaughts for leg abraxaus and probably fully built yazghor epic has to be good enough no ahriman but i have a workable core team.
Do you use neurothrope on the rogal dorn
I'm level 50. I ran the usual eldryon multi hit team, but like 2 months ago went to leveling admech. I got rho at d1, gida g2, sho g3, eldryon d2, aleph d1. I don't reslly know what the admech meta "perfect" build is, so should I be swapping or leveling different dudes? Or just crank out rho/aleph/sho to d3?
Get ReVas in to D1/D2, active level 44
What about Actus? without him youre gonne struggle. Otherwise: Exi up to D3 first to tank L5 screamer. Tangida passive up to 50, but G3 is sufficient for now. Alpeh and Revas also need to be D3 against high level Morty, Avatar, Screamer. Eldy should be OK for now, Sho also. In the end everybody should be D3!! Skills: Exi 50/50, gida 35/50 (higher active is fine, but not priority), Actus 1/40+, Revas 45+/40+, Aleph 45+/45+ Sho 35+/50
If you use that core team and no aleph null, how do you survive? Seems like morty would just run around and kill everyone 🤷♂️
Morty isn't that dangerous, he spends a lot of time getting ready for attacks and whenever he does single target attacks you can control who he hits. Abrax becomes a punching dummy when needed though :D
Mahkotep? Seen him do well for me of late.
:D
@@DraupnirWhatitdo lv50 para and d3 neuro here. been doing this team since it came together. Def rate Mahko, but think that vit Ahriman is locked in also. So really you'll be swapping 1 in and out. Its Roswitha with daemons for sure. Rate Vitrivus elsewhere.
Mahkotep let's you get para turn 1 and you can use adaptive strategy for him to get stacks, or just move of the screamers to summon more. He's okay.
Also worth pointing out with Ahriman you are levelling and using tokens for THREE thousand Sons characters so that can be a little soul destroying.
what level should i invest yaz passive and active?
Yaz passive and active can stay at level 1.
@@DraupnirWhatitdo is he ok at silver1 or should i go for gold1?
@@boybibimbap20 Against mortarion he can be low since mortarion will go after psykers if you play carefully. However, against avatar you want him high enough where yaz can take some punishment.
Yoo what about Mephiston?
Since he is not out on the live servers I decided not to include him. He does seem promising but beating the core 6 is very difficult.
Mephiston?
Roswitha's passive only works on psykers. And iirc Khaine does not have the Psyker trait. Thus, her passive wouldn't work on him based on wording. I wouldn't know if this is different practically though.
If it is true that her passive doesn't work, does this mean Vitruvius is better than Roswitha for Khaine? Or is her active still much stronger?
(Ofc, her active still works on him)
I have a high level Neuro team - Against Khaine, Ros and Yaz are "mostly" on kill summon duty the whole fight until their actives are needed.
Abra's damage (have hime at D1) doesn't seem to be enough to reliably take that job.
Ive been leveling Vitruvius but really am not sure if Ill get to use him against L4 or L5 Khaine bc those summons are so nasty and need Yaz and him on cleanup so wouldnt get his passive on Khaine. Might be useful lower if your heroes can live and you can use abra for cleanup.
Thats the main issue I see. Maybe after leveling up my Abra and Yaz past D1 might change.
@@tehfelf That's interesting insight. Thanks for sharing, dude! I don't have a heavily built raid team yet so I'm trying to decide which 5 to commit to. So it's nice to know how it's practically like at higher raid tiers
@@faisalzainal9021 no worries man, hope it helped!
i will give one more bit of caution/advice - only do Neuro team if you just like the idea of psykers lol.
What i mean is that the mech team and even multihit team will outshine you in most places and the mech team has a much higher damage ceiling.
Psychic damage is 100% armor pierce, so you will alway do the same damage. Even against like uncommon level bosses. 300k-400k damage is impressive against L4 Khaine.....but not against like R1 Khaine lol
The higher the armor, the better you do bc the less damage the other teams can do. However, at super high levels, the mech team just does so much damage it breaks past that armor pierce limitation. Im finding psyker team is best against Mort and Khaine, but theres a better squad for every other boss. Something worth keeping in mind.
@@tehfelf Was planning to use Ragnar multi-hit comp for most bosses, and Neuro comp for Mort and Khaine since Ragnar comp struggles with those
So how is this comb with the buff Mortarion got?
It fairs better against the rho team compared to before however, a maxed rho team can still output more damage than neurothrope with careful play.
Sooo… you basically shit on every single character.