Sony FX30 vs Sony A7S III - || Which one is RIGHT for YOU?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @thefilmalliance
    @thefilmalliance  Год назад +7

    Which one do you like better? If you would like to see more videos like this one like and subscribe!

  • @anderss5913
    @anderss5913 Год назад +33

    FX30 seems like a great camera for filmmakers who are going to set up shots and do their own lighting. For run and gun weddings, I agree that the 12 MP Full Frame is going to be tough to beat. I filmed weddings on the A7sII and A7iii for years with few issues and effectively no grain issues.

    • @viewfindermedia3188
      @viewfindermedia3188 Год назад +6

      It’s the a7siii that’s the one

    • @jonathanelboim7338
      @jonathanelboim7338 3 месяца назад

      What would you say about the a7sii? It’s significantly cheaper, I’m recording classical concert that last for an hour and a half and looking for a good 24fps 4k option to do this, knowing there’s a low-light but not drastic as this is a long shot (therefore using the 4k) - would you say I’ll be better waiting to have the money to get the a7siii? Or the a7sii will do the trick? I’d love if you’ll have the time to share :)

    • @anderss5913
      @anderss5913 2 месяца назад

      @@jonathanelboim7338 The 1st and 2nd gen A7s have record limits of 30 minutes. Then they will stop and need to be restarted. The A7sIII (3rd gen) doesn't have this issue if I'm not mistaken, so that might be the best for you of the S-series. You could also look to the A7 IV, as that also doesn't have a record limit I don't think and should do well in lower light. I've been away from the game for a minute, so double-check on all this. The S-series and A7sIII will probably be the best still for low light and record time, but if you paired the A7 IV with a low-light lens, that might be a cheaper way to accomplish something similar. That could be a good option if you're just setting up on a tripod and don't need to deal with your focal point changing.

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 2 года назад +20

    I am mainly a filmmaker. I think I've taken 5 maybe 10 pictures with my A7iv. The FX30 is more fitting to my needs. So, I'm selling my A7iv for the FX30. A couple more reasons why are 1) the timecode output. Which is very important for filmmaking. 2) Recording externally in 16-bit RAW video. Which is good for visual effects. Having worked on over 40 feature films as a visual effects artist, I will take advantage of the 16-bit output on many occasions.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +4

      Wow that’s incredible. Do you have a lot of feature films under your belt and for you to want the FX30 that says a lot. So will you shoot and 16 bit raw for special effects?

    • @AllThingsFilm1
      @AllThingsFilm1 2 года назад +4

      @@thefilmalliance Oh yea, for vfx shots I would definitely take advantage of the 16-bit raw. Footage shot in 10-bit provides a color spectrum of 1.07 billion colors. Footage shot in 16-bit provides 281 trillion colors. That’s a lot of latitude in post.

    • @petrub27
      @petrub27 2 года назад +2

      @@AllThingsFilm1 it may output 16bit, BUT will get only 12bit with ninjav

    • @summitresearch7992
      @summitresearch7992 2 года назад +4

      @@petrub27 I didn't realize the Ninja V was limited to 12-bit. How do you capture 16-bit, then?

    • @SianCKB
      @SianCKB Год назад +2

      Wait am I missing something? Don't they both only shoot 10bit?? How do you record 16 bit externally? 🤔

  • @markshirley01
    @markshirley01 2 года назад +16

    Remember when you calculate AF points the FX30 are spread across a smaller area, so its not necessarily going to worse the A7S3

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +13

      Dang that’s a mind twisting thought. Thanks for looking out. I didn’t even think of that.

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance when you do your comparison review with a FX3/A74 it'll be how the lowlight is impacted - will it be a deal breaker for say a wedding videograph in real practical terms.
      Thanks for your content - very helpful 👍

  • @amirneshati4839
    @amirneshati4839 Год назад +3

    Nice job! A7siii with 16-35 PZ for real estate/architectural videos, light setup with great low light performance. Just picked up the FX30 as a 2nd camera with the 20-70 PZ, this will be used for outdoors, details and longer views...also a 2nd camera for interviews....and for stills it's the Nikon gear...Kinda like to keep video cameras and photo cameras separate. Coming from a Z6 to the A7siii, had a chance to video the same home I shot with the Z6, which had challenging light, the difference in richness of color and lower noise is noticeable.

  • @krishaskins
    @krishaskins 10 месяцев назад

    i APPRECIATE THIS TIME here, never heard of the fx line, but been running two 7s iii's with no issues. always great to hear a well put together comparison my friend.

  • @andidesign1008
    @andidesign1008 2 года назад +10

    I find the FX30 highly interesting. Unfortunately, it's not that easy to create nice crops with the APS-C. F2.8 is then translated to F4.2, too bad. Regards

  • @papsny
    @papsny Год назад +2

    Using full frame is like sleeping on a bed.
    Going apsc from full frame is like sleeping on the floor.
    Why would anyone want to sleep on the floor?
    Sensor size > any fx30 features you can throw at it

  • @cherrypitstudio2653
    @cherrypitstudio2653 9 месяцев назад +3

    Im boxing my FX30 up and sending it off for sale and purchasing a A7S3 The noise on the FX30 is horrific even in well lit situations the amount of steps that have to be checked to produce decent quality is not with the price tag I only purchased for 4k 120fps for certain shoots but its practically impossible. The time and energy and anticlimactic end footage this camera produces reminds me of 1990's home video footage AVOID AVOID AVOID!!!

    • @felipecourtois7883
      @felipecourtois7883 7 месяцев назад +1

      r u serious

    • @markcinelast
      @markcinelast Месяц назад

      Yes, noise in fx30 is very notoceable even in lit environment.

  • @CaleMcCollough
    @CaleMcCollough 6 месяцев назад

    The way I look at it, you get the FX3 with the A7S III, but the FX30 will match much better with A7 IV or A7C II, which are sharper and in APS-C mode are about 24MP. The rolling shutter will probably be fine, you will just have to use a wider lens and correct the rolling shutter in post with Catalyst Browse.

  • @jamessonfield
    @jamessonfield 2 года назад +12

    I almost ordered one because of the hype but I’ll stick with A7siii and 7IV. My plan was to sell both and use FX30 but the stills mode is a little lacking. Yes I know it’s a video camera first but hey ho! Looks great though. I would miss EVF though as I do sometimes use it for video with longer lenses.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Hey James, it seems like you’ve got it figured out. Are you using them professionally or as a hobby?

    • @jamessonfield
      @jamessonfield 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance Just as a hobby, the other bonus is the layout on S3 and 74 is the same so you can set them up identically which is very handy. I like not worrying about crop factors in different frame rates on the S3. But the 74 is a great photography camera and apart from missing 4k120 a great video camera as well, especially if just comparing just apsc mode to the fx30.

    • @solomonsss
      @solomonsss 8 месяцев назад

      That is why FX30 doesnt have EVF because of the high reso LCD screen

  • @RandumbTech
    @RandumbTech 2 года назад +10

    I wish they'd add timecode support for the A7Siii. It has the same internals as the FX3 so I'm sure it can do it, Sony is just choosing not to. I've got my FX30 on preorder as well - can't wait!!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Hey Randumb, yes exactly. That is how I think of it. So happy for you to also preorder the Fx30. It will be a hit for sure

    • @CavenInToTheWorld
      @CavenInToTheWorld 2 года назад

      Yes it's the same but if they will include everything fx3 has then they cannot draw a line between the fx3 and a7siii anymore.

  • @HristosInAfrica
    @HristosInAfrica 2 года назад +2

    you are right about the slow motion . I would also use the FX30 as a B camera for this purpose

  • @ChristophIsbjorn
    @ChristophIsbjorn Год назад

    Man, I've watched so many of your videos and your take on things and the work going into these videos is insane. Whenever I see you have a video on something I'm looking for I always click it. Really appreciate your perspective on things. Thanks for all your hard work!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад

      Wow seriously thanks man. This kind of encouragement and support means a lot. Really glad that you find value in the things I share.

  • @PhilMeachem
    @PhilMeachem Год назад +5

    Yes! I'm a Filmmaker x Photographer and like to keep my gear separated. I shoot stills on the Sony A7Rii and that's been a beast for me so long as I don't shoot in dark environments. But I am pushing heavily onto the video content side of things next year and the FX30 looks to be the best bang for the buck. As you said, it's that entry level for cinema cameras and for 2K body only, I'll make a hell of an ROA from it.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад +1

      Thanks Phil for this comment. You have some great insight.

    • @PhilMeachem
      @PhilMeachem Год назад

      @@thefilmalliance thanks man 🙏

  • @Arthurcrea
    @Arthurcrea Год назад +3

    Dors that 2000$ gap justify the low light performance of the a7siii ? Il really curious if there is really that much of a difference

  • @morecarstuff
    @morecarstuff 2 года назад +1

    the crop at 120 and lowlight is only reason imma stick with the s3. only got annoyed when you kept saying s3 is hybrid. but in reality you are right. maybe back in the day the s line meant more cinema but that is only in relation to the other a7 group (a7_, a7s_, a7r_). and i also understand in this context the fx30 is definitely more video focused. if it wasn't for lowlight capabilities and 4k120 crop the fx30 at 1/2 cost is definitely the better buy (IMO), cause you can buy 2 of them to run whatever you want, would be perfect for podcast and streaming budgets. active cooling is major also. and being cropped you just buy a sigma lens 3 pack and you ready to go to be honest, and you have access to that creamy f1.4 goodness for the low. I think in the near future i will get it simply for the fact that 2 full frame lenses right now gonna run me basically the cost of the fx30, while i have multiple crop lenses available that arent being used currently. sigma 16, 30 and a few more. i want to see how well the pancake kti lens runs on the fx30. the 16-35 if i remember right. that would be a crazy run n gun setup. arguably fit in a pocket.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      You summed it up perfectly and I can’t agree more. I know I hate that it’s a “hybrid” bc I do cinema. I don’t want a photography and video camera to do pro video work but I actually end up using the evf all the time hahaha

  • @juanlash
    @juanlash 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm currently using the a7iv as my main camera, I'm thinking of getting the fx30 as a secondary camera, and maybe it could be my main video camera when not in low light situations

  • @shiftintosunshine
    @shiftintosunshine Месяц назад

    I need to upgrade my ZV-E10 to a camera that does 4k60 and 4k120 would be a bonus. I only do video and it's 99% in bright, hot, mid day Arizona sun. FX30 seems ideal. I have no FF lenses. Thanks for this video!

  • @panzerschreckpete
    @panzerschreckpete 2 года назад +3

    NZD $6100 + cost of lenses for A7Siii vs NZD $3500 and I can use my existing APS-C lenses, and my ZV-1/ZV-10 can be used for what little photography (mostly close up stuff) I do. The saving alone allows me to buy two Sirui Anamorphic lenses - that and the form factor of APS-C in general makes it a much more viable option for me. I never really considered the A7Siii a realistic goal for me, whereas the FX30 is very aspirational. It would be my top end camera and my end point at my stage of life.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Sounds like you’ve got it figured out. I love the cheaper APSC glass idea in the FX30 while you can still use full frame

  • @LeyendaProductions
    @LeyendaProductions Год назад +3

    I'll be getting the A7siii

  • @nicholasjames5471
    @nicholasjames5471 2 года назад +3

    If I could afford an A7Siii I could pretty much afford an FX3, thus making FX30 obsolete until I could afford a good B Cam. So FX30 is definitely right for my broke a$$

  • @stevengergi6781
    @stevengergi6781 Год назад

    Well I have an A7s iii and I ordered FX30 as my main camera. I am thinking to sell the A7s iii. The reason is lens's. I only have two full frame lenses Sony 24mm 1.4 and themton 28-70mm 2.8. I love my a7siii but I don't use it enough to keep it. Used only couple times. Also the full frame lens's are too expensive and I want to try anamorphic lens.

  • @DigitalDreamStudios
    @DigitalDreamStudios Год назад +1

    Good Video, However Netflix Approved doesn't mean that they will accept your film just because you shot on a Netflix approved camera, you can shoot it with a GoPro if they really want it. Netflix Approved means that if NETFLIX hires you to shoot a show or a film, they have a set list of approved cameras that you can use. That is what that list if for, again great video!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much for bringing that to light. That makes alot more sense. I really appreciate that insight. Thank you for taking the time to explain that.

    • @DigitalDreamStudios
      @DigitalDreamStudios Год назад

      @@thefilmalliance sure thing! Great reviews!

  • @UncomicKenlyYumul
    @UncomicKenlyYumul 2 года назад +2

    this is an excellent and depth review i was looking for. thanks!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Thank you so much for saying that. I am glad that it helped.Do you have one of these cameras?

  • @stevengergi6781
    @stevengergi6781 Год назад +1

    I ordered my FX30 couple days ago. How long did you guys wait till you got this camera?

  • @CACTUS.mp4_
    @CACTUS.mp4_ Год назад +1

    price differences in europe are huge :(
    A7SIII in 3 different shops - 3900€, 4100€, 4470€
    FX30 in 2 different shops - 2260€, 2390€
    This is in Croatia...while our average salaries being around 1000€

  • @schoeferfilm
    @schoeferfilm 2 года назад +1

    I am searcher a b-cam for my FX6 🎥 I think the fx30 would be a good option 👍🏻😀 best cinematic greetings from germany

  • @MarkBennettCameraCrisis
    @MarkBennettCameraCrisis 2 года назад +6

    fantastic!! I will use all of this for my video!!!!!!!!

    • @xvimatthiasivx41
      @xvimatthiasivx41 2 года назад

      Edit your comment mark!

    • @MarkBennettCameraCrisis
      @MarkBennettCameraCrisis 2 года назад +1

      @@xvimatthiasivx41 I stand by my mistakes!!!!!!

    • @xvimatthiasivx41
      @xvimatthiasivx41 2 года назад +1

      @@MarkBennettCameraCrisis brother XD

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      I am deleting this comment because you didn’t stand behind your unedited comment

    • @imatthewlockridge
      @imatthewlockridge 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance yes I believe that's the correct action to take haha (still xvimatthiasivx)

  • @HiMadeMukbang
    @HiMadeMukbang Год назад

    having sony zv e10 and plan to get fx30. Do you think the image quality is way better ?

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад +1

      Yes the image quality of the Fx30 is way better than the Zve10. Thanks for asking.

  • @qbalharun
    @qbalharun 2 года назад +2

    I’m still with full frame no matter what!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Wow ok yes, please tell us why. For low light?

    • @qbalharun
      @qbalharun 2 года назад +1

      @@thefilmalliance Absolutely yes because currently im using A7siii & A7iv and I love the low light result for both 😍

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 2 года назад

    I had been waiting for an fx6 and they have been outta stock since the pandemic began. We shoot mostly Blackmagic, but I own a A7IV, A9, and a A7RIII.
    I happen to be looking around at the Fx3 and the Fx30 for a few weeks and I happen to look at the A7siii and saw one in the next nearby state at a Bestbuy. We took the hour trip.
    I saw one that was an open box along with a new one in store and I wanted to know what was wrong with the open box. Well the actual box said residue along with the listing on the website.
    I had them open up the box and everything was there and the body looked brand new, but it was missing the body cap. The price was 2729.99.
    I was expecting a torn up box with no manuals or anything and scratches or stickers on the body from maybe being a demo model, but no the box looked brand new and all of the other accessories were included.
    I have the total tech plan, which isca 60vday warranty and I can return it up to 60 days. I bought a body cap at 8.39 and the camera was 2978.00 with tax included. I decided to buy the camera after testing it in store.
    My decision was made for me at 778.00 off. I will use it until my fx6 gets in stock and I will then use it as a B cam.
    The deal was too good to pass up even for an Fx3. I'm taking it home now as my wife drives and I set up the menus.

  • @liceafilms
    @liceafilms Год назад +1

    Many cinema cameras use super35 sensors why do people feel they need a full frame sensor? Makes no sense

  • @rod383
    @rod383 2 года назад +1

    great job on the video my friend!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Thank you so much, do you have either one of these cameras?

  • @BrandonColePhotography
    @BrandonColePhotography 2 года назад +1

    I preordered my FX30 also. Good job covering the specs bro. I already have the A1, A7IV and A7Siii. I plan to add the FX30, and add it to my arsenal. The A7SIII is still full frame and native 3K which is why its so clean. Not downsampled. I also have not seen if the FX3 or FX30 has memory recall like the A7S3 so going from 4k24 to 4k120 at the switch of a dial is important to me also. No dials on the FX30 so how do you change settings super fast like on all the other sony cameras? Big tip for us content creators. Stop by my channel sometimes

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +2

      What’s up bro, yes, I agree. We will have to find a way to toggle quickly between frame rates and resolutions. I’m going to set this thinks up as soon as I get it, with the most streamline quick toggles. I’m excited to dive in. Thanks so much for all the support.

    • @BrandonColePhotography
      @BrandonColePhotography 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance same here pretty interested I have my own dropping tomorrow on the fx30. I don’t know if it has memory recall. Nobody has talked about it and I can’t find it anywhere. I don’t even know if it’s on the fx3

  • @boomboombaby9140
    @boomboombaby9140 2 года назад +1

    I have the fx30 it's brand new, yesterday I saw an a7siii for 2,100 and ordered because I know someone would've gotten it and it's a unbelievable deal. If the a7siii beats it the fx30 is going back.

    • @elmerc2079
      @elmerc2079 2 года назад

      So, did the fx30 beat the A7siii?

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 2 года назад +1

      @@elmerc2079 no , the a7siii out preformed it. I was going to send it back but my brother gave me 1,500 and a Sony FE 20 mm 1.8 G lens

    • @stevengergi6781
      @stevengergi6781 Год назад +2

      Well I was thinking to sell my A7siii and BMPCC 6k for Fx30. So you think it is not worth it?

    • @boomboombaby9140
      @boomboombaby9140 Год назад

      @@stevengergi6781 no because the a7siii does everything the fx30 does and more .

    • @stevengergi6781
      @stevengergi6781 Год назад

      @@boomboombaby9140 well yes but what about lens's?

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 2 года назад +2

    It would be comical if the $1800 fx30 gets nextflix approved. It does have all-i and time code so theoretically is might just qualify. ConeEI"s point is not ISO but it always gives you the maximum dynamic range possible out of the camera no matter what.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      I know but it may just happen. It also may not happen strictly due to the price and Netflix not being cool with such a cheap camera being approved haha

    • @CavenInToTheWorld
      @CavenInToTheWorld 2 года назад +1

      I hope they approve because cinema cameras before are mostly super 35 and also it's a good way to help and motivate small time content creator to be more creative and publish their own indie film. And not all great and creative minds can buy expensive things to start and create their masterpiece.

    • @kanohane
      @kanohane Год назад +1

      Fast forward to now.....and it's approved lol

  • @joshjosh5124
    @joshjosh5124 Год назад +1

    Hi Brother I'm nani From India Thanks for video..Wich One camera is best for video plz say One word

  • @diegotugnolo103
    @diegotugnolo103 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for those infos, subscribed to the channel! :)

  • @HVACUncensored
    @HVACUncensored 2 года назад

    I am more of beginner still maybe a little above lol. I have the A6400 and the A6600. For my podcast I use 2 A6000’s with the sigma 30 & 16. Those never have to leave just there when I need them. Look really good no one would know lol. I’m gonna use the 6600 for any photo stuff I wanna do. Gonna trade in my 6400 towards the FX30 and use that for all my video needs. Same battery’s all my lenses will be compatible. I’m pumped can’t for the FX30 to get there. Also ordered the grip mic thing. Wanna try that too. Anyway sorry so long love the channel bud.

  • @Intuifilm
    @Intuifilm 2 года назад +3

    I am gonna wait for firmware on my a7siii, I m sure they gonna add some of the new features on it, soon or later ( I hope so). I think it is a good thing to try to control our shopping addiction. "The netflix approved" is just a marketing thing to sell more (is netflix giving us quality ? not sure of that).

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      What a great point. I wonder if Sony and Netflix partnered up to have the FX3 be "Netflix approved" because its great marketing for both. I do hope the A7siii has some better firmware updates as well. So your not picking up the FX30?

    • @Intuifilm
      @Intuifilm 2 года назад +2

      @@thefilmalliance No because, when I bought the a7siii, it was for having something that I will use for 5 years at least, I don't want to be trapped in a "fomo" with buying new gear every 6months because they add a new "magical new feature", I know all these things are great new things but really, I am still doing good things and I try much as I can to do the best with option that I already have in the a7siii.
      Focus breathing compensation, great!!! But I am gonna learn to be better in manual focusing, Cine EI etc... OK great too! I m gonna learn how to be better in colorgrading, Animal focusing Awesome! I am not shooting a lot of animal :-). I think it is a little bit our fault too because SONY and other brand understand that we will buy anything with new options everytime they make something new.
      AND about all the 6K 8K 1000K , who really has a TV at home that can handle that for the moment.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      @@Intuifilm You are wise, Once someone told me, when I want to purchase something over $1,000 to wait 30 days and see if I still want it. Most of the time I ended up not purchasing it. In this case, I will make an exception being that I am a camera channel and a lot of people rely on what I find to make a decision. Thanks so much for being such a great example to all of us!

    • @Intuifilm
      @Intuifilm 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance thank you very much to do that and to help us to make decisions we need that kind of content and thank you for that!
      I took more than 6months to choose to buy the a7siii and that kind of reviews helps a lot.
      I wish you a great day 😁

    • @Tonellacam
      @Tonellacam Год назад

      @@thefilmalliance I love this philosophy

  • @arhon888
    @arhon888 2 года назад +1

    I am coming from a Canon 90d. I am 90% sold on the idea of moving to full frame. I have always felt that apsc has been a little bit of a compromise in terms of sharpness and DR, but with the arrival of the Canon R7 and the FX30 the differences have become so much smaller. I am inches away from purchasing a used A7SIII, but the FX30 is very tempting as will have some much choice in terms of lenses. I don't know. Either way they are both outstanding camera's so thinking how wrong can I go?

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny Год назад

      which did you get? a7Siii is the better hybrid, but fx30 has same design as FX3 which is awesome for videography

    • @arhon888
      @arhon888 Год назад +1

      @@mirrorlessnyI actually went for the A7IV in the end, which I got for a great price. For me, it was the ideal stepping stone into Sony's full-frame mirrorless system, both in terms of budget and features. It has proven to be an outstanding camera and looks like it will more than suffice for a little while. Who knows, when I am ready to upgrade again, Sony may have released a A7S IV:-) In the meantime, I think investing in the best glass for my new camera is top of my priorities.

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny Год назад

      @@arhon888 a7iv is a great hybrid, has so much useful tech, I still have a7iii for photography, what lenses you have now & what kind of things do you use the camera for?

    • @arhon888
      @arhon888 Год назад +1

      @@mirrorlessny I plan to use A7IV for video mainly. Professionally, I mainly use for company testimonials. Planning on doing more service videos also. I am actually a web designer, so use video to compliment that. Outside of that, I love filming generally. ie. family, events etc. How about you?

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny Год назад

      @@arhon888 Hybrid use at work, hobby is mostly video,. That's why I didn't get fx30 or fx3 because they are too video focused, btw the new Samyang/Rokinon Cine primes have rec light :)

  • @EagerSnake
    @EagerSnake 6 месяцев назад

    Well, to be absolutely honest, I'm really wanting one of the cinema line cameras, but I need, like TRULY, the low light capabilities of the a7sIII. I think the FX3 uses the same sensor, right?
    We do a lot of astrophotography vlogs and we barely use any lighting, we shot it as it is.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thats hard to say. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?

    • @EagerSnake
      @EagerSnake 6 месяцев назад

      @@thefilmalliance Nope, I did not take it. If you have the link, let me know.
      As for the usage of the camera, well, in this case, it will be a dedicated camera JUST for filming. During the day, I have no issues, but at night, and with practically no lighting, it gets tricky, and that's where the a7sIII is so important.

  • @Мухамадов1
    @Мухамадов1 2 года назад

    Wait a minute! "Small" crop at 1.6 ?
    What is big crop to you then? 8.6?

  • @woody6791
    @woody6791 Месяц назад

    a7siii for $1000 used in good condition only problem is the 2nd sd slot doesn’t snap into place. Should I buy it!? I was about to purchase a brand new fx30. I don’t have any glass yet. What would you do? I will 95% of time shoot outdoors documentary style

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Месяц назад

      I'd stay away if card wont snap in place

    • @videotuotannot2693
      @videotuotannot2693 Месяц назад

      That's a steal, basically $1000 for an FX3 in a different body. The memory card snap is most likely a very cheap fix if you find a capable tech person.

    • @woody6791
      @woody6791 Месяц назад

      @@videotuotannot2693 right? I don’t understand why the answer from @thefilmalliance « i’d stay away » LOL come on that’s $1000!!! Who cares about the 2nd slot

  • @ZamoraChristian
    @ZamoraChristian 2 года назад +1

    🙏 so usefull. I have order one, will change my zve10 and match it with the 7IV. And yes it is expensive in Europe 😔 This camara was the one I hoped to come out last year, but it was the A7IV, If at the moment of having it, perform better or equal to my 7IV I will sell it, because I never take picture only videos.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Hi Christian, wow thanks for the heads up. Yes I agree. I believe prices should come down eventually though

  • @markcinelast
    @markcinelast Месяц назад

    I have check Fx30 it have a lot of noise and very noticable so i decided to buy a7siii

  • @TonesAdventuresHD
    @TonesAdventuresHD 2 года назад +2

    Nice one coach! The FX 30 seems very tempting and as you said the lens for that camera are cheaper than full frame lenses. Definitely something to think about!

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Tone, great observation. The ZV-1s fixed lens is probably perfect for you though

  • @JUANASDRUBAL
    @JUANASDRUBAL 2 года назад +3

    Good video brother , thanks .

  • @bestiway
    @bestiway 2 года назад

    Hey ! Do you think the fx30 can be usable in sport photography ?

  • @rigomartineztarot
    @rigomartineztarot Год назад

    Still makes it hard to pick one.. I have full frame lenses so makes sense to get fx3 but it’s expensive I feel like if I go with fx30 I would eventually want to upgrade to fx3. 😅 thanks for the info tho.

  • @dutch4motion662
    @dutch4motion662 2 года назад +1

    i am wondering what are you thoughts about sigma fp vs sony fx30. bitrate, color, full frame vs super 35, auto focus.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Great question. I’d like to see the side by side comparison footage. I may have to ask for the Sigma back haha

  • @kithykombe
    @kithykombe 8 месяцев назад

    Nice analysis ..thank you..Yes..I am going for fx 30...For my music videos.

  • @ciudadanosdelcosmos
    @ciudadanosdelcosmos Год назад

    Hi ,,how about that famous rolling shutter with that camera? i am chossing if that or A6600 thanks

  • @WildVibezz
    @WildVibezz Год назад

    Hii.. Im a siii user but i do like to buy fx30 cuz of the 1.6 crop in 4k 120 to get extra zoom for my wildlife videos..but my only concern is about the dual base iso 2500...all of the scenes are filming in the forest... Gonna need higher iso there.. So im confused.. Should i buy fx30 for the zoom or stick with siii with 12800 clean dual base iso😐🤔

  • @markwalker8374
    @markwalker8374 2 года назад +1

    For the birdwatcher this would seem to be a good video camera for making videos of bird behaviour especially with its 1.62 crop on 1.5x sensor. However I cannot find one reviewer that has looked at this aspect. Perhaps Sony thinks its not optimal for that either as they don't seem to have commissioned any review from an actual wildlife video maker

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Yes, I think this would be an excellent wildlife camera. As long as you can afford the long lenses! will you be picking up the FX30?

    • @markwalker8374
      @markwalker8374 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance I already have a 200-600mm to go with my A9, but if I got the FX30 I would consider getting the 135mm F1.8 to give me a low light option in the dim light of the SE Asian rainforests I frequent.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      @@markwalker8374 Dang what a nice setup. Are you only doing photography or making videos with those setups? I would love to watch that and see your workflow

  • @hmingashotokan
    @hmingashotokan Год назад

    For movie shooting, which one is better?

  • @SpokenWord4
    @SpokenWord4 2 года назад +1

    I was looking for a B camera to pair with my A7SIII. I am a content creator and I use a f 1.8 wide angle lens. Obviously the A7SIII does super in low light. If I purchase the FX30 for a B camera what do you thing about lens that will compliment what I have?

    • @mirrorlessny
      @mirrorlessny Год назад

      Sigma f1.4 apsc prime lenses are popular, but there are multiple other brands available now

  • @Pharesm
    @Pharesm Год назад

    Picking up the FFX30 in spite of the much better shooting modes of the A7s3, because its cheaper and the lenses are cheaper too. Also, because Sony has cut off the A7s3 from important firmware updates... And its not like people could use that as a photo camera...
    I'd switch to another brand if it wasn't for my collection of lenses and the poor selection for Canon's RF glass and the stink of their preventing the use of 3rd party glass...

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад

      Hey, yes I get that. So have you bought the FX30 yet? If so, what do you think of it?

    • @Pharesm
      @Pharesm Год назад

      I'm pretty slow on pulling the trigger, after buying an A7C, selling it, buying an A74, selling it, I want to get it right this time...

  • @CavenInToTheWorld
    @CavenInToTheWorld 2 года назад

    Ill be getting my fx30. I wanted the fx3 and by the time it was on pre order i can actually get it but i choose not to because i used the money for something more important hence i just bought the a6600. Hoping sony would give a firmware update to enable gyro and have it compatible with catalyst browse since the rx0 ii has it and a6600 was their flagship apsc at that time and even when the zv-e10 was released. So please SONY if you are reading the comments section. So back to fx30. Now i think it is more justifiable to get the fx30 that i think i can still use if my channel get more subs or grow. Than just having a6600 that has horrendous rolling shutter (firmware update can change this by enable to choose a down sample 6k or a true 4k might help) and without proper stabilization like active steady shot and catalyst browse. But im still hoping that SONY will give a6600 owners the update I mentioned. I will still buy the FX30 even if they give the mentioned update to a6600 and will use the a6600 as b cam and thumbnail shooter.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      You nailed it, thanks so much for the explanation and detail. I agree with you and am very happy for you that you are picking up the FX30. DO you have any idea when they will start shipping? You seem like the knowledgeable person who knows inside info haha

    • @CavenInToTheWorld
      @CavenInToTheWorld 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance thank you very much for a nice compliment but im not knowledgeable than you since im just starting up and just doing some research. But hopefully someday I become like you guys who know a lot more so i can also share them to others. I just saw in bhphoto the date for the US but from where i am at, until now im communicating with sony authorized dealer here. And even they don't know when pre-order will start here. So i just call them everyday. 😁

  • @A.Edilbi
    @A.Edilbi 2 года назад +2

    @2:10 has a small crop ? 1.6 crop is big .

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Misspoke, but I recover that later in the video. Thanks for catching that

  • @roxisarobot
    @roxisarobot 2 года назад +1

    I can’t decide between the fx3 and fx30 😮

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      What lenses do you have/will buy?

    • @roxisarobot
      @roxisarobot 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance none at the moment 😅 sold all my gear and I am free to decide what I want to invest in. I think the fx30 could make much more sense for me. But honestly there is no good zoom lense with 2.8 (and oss) out there

  • @simeceleski9700
    @simeceleski9700 2 года назад +1

    Hi I'm considering fx30 or a Sony xdcam for my videography (weddings, christenings etc where long battery life is a must as we shoot for hours and hours) . Any advice? Have you used xdcam for video?

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Hey there, no I haven’t. You have definitely sparked interest. I think you’d be better with a FX30 and fast aperture lenses for lowlight weddings. What are your thoughts on that?

    • @simeceleski9700
      @simeceleski9700 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance I'm very tempted to make the switch (currently I use Sony nx30 cam as my main and Sony a6000) to dslr and the fx30 looks great and I like how it has a fan to avoid overheating. The weddings I shoot that are European require hours and hours continous shooting and battery life is veyy important. What would the add ons be for the fx30 to be able to make battery last over 5 hours atleast and any recommended lense? Thanks again for responding 😀👍..

  • @billwdwc
    @billwdwc 2 года назад +1

    excellent review thanks

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, Do you do filmmaking as a hobby or professional?

  • @funnyvideosera
    @funnyvideosera Год назад

    Thank you very much brother, quick question what would you recommend for youtube podcast fx30 or a7 s3? Thank you again

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад

      What will the conditions be like? Thank you for asking:)

  • @acaiv1797
    @acaiv1797 2 года назад

    I got the FX30 but I’m tempted to swap it out for the FX3.

    • @johnrothe6981
      @johnrothe6981 4 месяца назад +1

      Did you swap it? Why?

    • @acaiv1797
      @acaiv1797 4 месяца назад

      Yes, I did swap it. I definitely noticed the difference between the cropped sensor and full frame when the lighting wasn't optimal.

  • @soundtempleAU
    @soundtempleAU 2 года назад

    Do they actually record video simultaneously on both cards? For example, Fuji XT-3 has two cards but only photos are recorded on both, video is only recorded on one card, no backup :(

  • @rikomendes3694
    @rikomendes3694 2 года назад +2

    What to chose between sony a7c and fx30?

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      FX30, 2 card slots! How about you?

    • @rikomendes3694
      @rikomendes3694 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance i don't know yet i am wondering to see the low light tests between this 2 cameras to decide

  • @romak9832
    @romak9832 2 года назад +1

    What camera are you talking to at the beginning of this video?

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      A7siii. My go to. will you be picking up the FX30?

    • @romak9832
      @romak9832 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance my choice between sony a7m4 and fx30?

  • @boundariesunlimited267
    @boundariesunlimited267 2 года назад +1

    Hey Joe, I'm currently debating on the a74 vs the FX30. I'm upgrading from the ZV-1. I plan to primarily use video, but will I miss out from not going full frame if I go with the FX30? Thanks!

    • @teamkaskas
      @teamkaskas 2 года назад +1

      I would like to know too. I don't know which one to get. I feel like the A7IV is the better value and more available in the used market. It will be cheaper soon due to the A75 coming out soon.

    • @McHughFilmCompany
      @McHughFilmCompany Год назад

      I know this comment is 8 months late, but as someone who came from a sony a6300/6500, the fX30 was the smartest/budget friendly way to go. Ordered one last month and i'm very content. If you're already invested in the APSC/emount lens lineup, then FX30 is the clear decision maker. I think the fact alone that a crop sensor contends with a full frame speaks volumes alone. Can't go wrong either way

  • @MTBs
    @MTBs 2 года назад +2

    Still don't understand what Cine EI brings that S-log doesn't...

    • @johnnyweissmuller5838
      @johnnyweissmuller5838 2 года назад +1

      Its just a different workflow

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Yes, its a way to expose the display correctly without changing the settings inside the camera

  • @thamoigeemapao391
    @thamoigeemapao391 2 года назад +1

    Wow❤️❤️ nice voice my friend 💐💐💐nice presentation ❤️❤️❤️new subscriber bro 💐💐💐love from Manipur, india 🙏🙏

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Thank you, will you be picking up the FX30?

    • @thamoigeemapao391
      @thamoigeemapao391 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance yup. I am waiting for it ❤️❤️❤️

  • @cameracity7290
    @cameracity7290 2 года назад +1

    Can it be vlogging camera on Sony FX30?

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      I don’t think so you would be better off with the ZV-e10. Which cameras do you have?

  • @frenchcoupon3391
    @frenchcoupon3391 Год назад

    The real question is the price/value ratio. So FX30.

  • @CC.cinematics
    @CC.cinematics 2 года назад +1

    What can be alternatives of fx30 within the same price

    • @SaxSpy
      @SaxSpy 2 года назад

      canon r7

    • @CO8848_2
      @CO8848_2 2 года назад +2

      Not canon, for an alternative "cinema" camera, it's the panasonic s5. Otherwise, fuji x-h2 or x-h2s. Canon r7 is a a better stills camera but not suitable comparison as a video camera.

    • @CC.cinematics
      @CC.cinematics 2 года назад

      What about autofocus

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for clarifying. What about the GH6?

    • @CO8848_2
      @CO8848_2 2 года назад

      @@CC.cinematics AF is Sony/Canon then Fuji. Panasonic not so good. But it seems to me, FX30 is mostly replacing people's purchases of FX3, A7siii, Canon c70, Blackmagic 6k, 6kpro, 4k, etc.

  • @jwate
    @jwate 2 года назад

    If the fx30 would of been out when I was switching cameras I would of gotten that over the s3.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад

      Yes, I absolutely agree with that. But the Fx30 is backordered for so long. Everyone is complaining about that. So at least you have a camera that you can use right now.

  • @harishrao3537
    @harishrao3537 Год назад

    Harish from INDIA, iam beginner to this field soon starting RUclips cooking channel.let me know whether FX 30 is good fr RUclips cooking channel?

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад

      Hey there, I have had a lot of questions about filming cooking. Unfortunately, I have never had any experience with that. But, if you find out, I would really appreciate it, if you let me know so that I can tell others. Thanks.

  • @viewfindermedia3188
    @viewfindermedia3188 Год назад +1

    I have a FX 30 and I’m trading it for the a 7Siii

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  Год назад

      That’s a great move but how are you trading with such a big price difference?

    • @viewfindermedia3188
      @viewfindermedia3188 Год назад

      @@thefilmalliance fx30 and 15 mm lens for a7siii

  • @durenpanda
    @durenpanda Год назад

    where is video comparison ser?

  • @WildWheel-Adventure
    @WildWheel-Adventure 11 месяцев назад

    Very useful

  • @SHIVAAYPRODUCTION
    @SHIVAAYPRODUCTION 2 года назад

    very nice describe

  • @odaimanea
    @odaimanea 2 года назад

    Thank u

  • @WillCaban
    @WillCaban 2 года назад +1

    The camera is expensive internationally most likely because the US Dollar is the strongest it’s been in decades making it more

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Oh I see, so that means it really will come down on the future, right?

    • @WillCaban
      @WillCaban 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance hopefully and if it is pegged to the USD Retail, then yes. Especially if there is a shortage on the initial release and the dollar falls. This is more or less speculation on my part but is the only reason I can for the international market exclaiming it as more expensive.

    • @thefilmalliance
      @thefilmalliance  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for explaining. Now it all makes sense

    • @WillCaban
      @WillCaban 2 года назад

      @@thefilmalliance it’s my pleasure, thanks for the insight videos. It makes it make a lot more sense for a person like myself justifying the upgrade from the ZV-E10… all of these videos are extremely helpful.

  • @verifiedccp
    @verifiedccp 7 месяцев назад

    Fx30 is not Netflix approved

  • @visionaryentertainment1431
    @visionaryentertainment1431 Год назад

    bad low light performance, APS-C means more NOISE bigger NOISE, why even compare. this camera is bs.