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  • Join me, ManicMeeks, as I react to HBO Miniseries Chernobyl. I almost have no words to describe the actual event and this show. Reading about this event and watching a reenactment are two completely different experiences.
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  • @DocC993
    @DocC993 5 лет назад +161

    The man who held open the large metal door, then started bleeding from his hip, he's one of the real people who were there, he actually held that radioactive door open, and survived! His name is Sasha Yuvchenko, his story is worth a read.

    • @pulkmees
      @pulkmees 5 лет назад +6

      Is he a superhero now ? What kind of abilities does he have ?

    • @theproplady
      @theproplady 5 лет назад +49

      The ability to live 20 years after standing in the close vicinity of a burning nuclear core. (He died in 2008, sadly...)

    • @marrenby
      @marrenby 5 лет назад

      Christopher C
      Wow! Thanks for the tip! I’ll look for the book.

    • @Digmen1
      @Digmen1 5 лет назад

      Thats amazing. I though he was a gonna

    • @williamsims5830
      @williamsims5830 5 лет назад

      But not for long,

  • @TheJonesie
    @TheJonesie 5 лет назад +527

    man when that guy says "do you taste metal?"...sent shivers, man

    • @thorkagemob1297
      @thorkagemob1297 5 лет назад +35

      I love how subtle it was too like if you arent paying attention you will miss him say it. They dont focus on it at all.

    • @ManicMeeks
      @ManicMeeks  5 лет назад +29

      Especially how many times they say it in this episode too! Thanks for watching!

    • @marianmarkovic5881
      @marianmarkovic5881 5 лет назад +41

      metal taste is Iodine 131, and it is always bad news

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 5 лет назад +33

      @@marianmarkovic5881 Also it's your saliva's chemical composition changing. Ionizing radiation breaks down bonds and knocks out electrons, ripping molecules apart.
      It could also be the radiation directly affecting the nervous system.

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 5 лет назад +43

      From what I've read, if you're tasting metal due to radiation exposure, you are as good as dead, you just haven't fallen down yet.

  • @krombee
    @krombee 5 лет назад +642

    "There are no masks involved whatsoever...I feel like anything would help"
    It really, really wouldn't

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 5 лет назад +62

      It'd help as much as tin foil against a flamethrower.

    • @kylesenior
      @kylesenior 5 лет назад +68

      It would actually. The most deadly radioactive particles (to your cells that is) are alpha and beta particles. Alpha and meta particles are very high energy, but due to their large size they don't penetrate things well. Breathing them in allows them to bypass your skin and end up in your lungs and bloodstream. You can look up the effective dose tables online but it's literally orders of magnitude difference here.

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 5 лет назад +24

      @@kylesenior Weren't there also elements going through gamma decay? You need lead shielding for that.
      The flimsy disposable outfits protect against alpha radiation, breathing masks help mitigate alpha and beta decay effects, because of reasons you pointed out... But gamma rays... Nothing outside of a lead tank woulda kept them safe.
      It's like being in a bullet storm with a vest that only stops .22LR rounds.

    • @kylesenior
      @kylesenior 5 лет назад +10

      @@Tounushi Each gamma ray has orders of magnitude less energy than an alpha or beta particle. Yes, you can't practically shield from gamma, but they're not what is killing you here.

    • @Skelterification
      @Skelterification 5 лет назад +14

      @@kylesenior Watch the next 2 episodes. You will see why nothing will help from that distance.

  • @Tamaki742
    @Tamaki742 5 лет назад +70

    Also Sweden was the first one outside the Soviet to literally caught wind of the fact that Chernobyl nuclear plant exploded. They thought THEY're having a meltdown, but when they realized the radiation is coming from the outside, they checked the wind and the weather, and charted possible nuclear plants that it might have passed.
    When they called Russia, it basically boiled down to almost sounding like if you're asking someone if they farted. Russia still tried to deny until Sweden said "yknow i still have to report this to the international comittee, are you really sure nothing happened???"
    It was only then they admitted to what happened, but even then they still lied about so many things.

    • @Yautah
      @Yautah 5 лет назад +1

      Not trying to defend him too much, but I'm pretty sure that the first Soviet answering Norway's questions didn't have the real answers either.

    • @Tamaki742
      @Tamaki742 5 лет назад +1

      @@Yautah Not quite sure about that, like a day has passed after they evacuated Pripyat, I think everyone in charge of Chernobyl would know by then and reported to the higher ups.

    • @SupraJulie
      @SupraJulie 5 лет назад +1

      American nuclear submarines caught it too, though of course that wasn't made public because if you tell someone where your submarine is it sort of defeats the purpose of having a submarine.

  • @timothyhh
    @timothyhh 5 лет назад +155

    "Sir, you're going the wrong way." Actual LOL to that one!

  • @GrigVan
    @GrigVan 5 лет назад +11

    My uncle was there, eliminated the consequences. He died after half a year. In 1991, our family moved from Ukraine to Germany. This is a terrible catastrophe, only 90km from Kiev, no one then notified the people.

  • @cmSaS
    @cmSaS 5 лет назад +80

    Feel free not to research too much until after the mini-series is over. It's doing a pretty good job of revealing information, more or less, as they learned it. As someone who has gone down the rabbit hole in Chernobyl research, it's rather fascinating to see how someone reacts to the show revealing it.

    • @cmSaS
      @cmSaS 5 лет назад +4

      One thing that's interesting to note but the show doesn't explicitly mention... There are 4 reactors in that complex. #4 is the one that blew and #3 is essentially in the same building on the opposite side of the large "smoke stack". The building is essentially a mirror for the two reactors on each side of the stack. This creates a pretty strong contrast to the extent of the structural damage visible outside. Reactors #1 and #2 are in a separate part of the facility farther to the east.
      You can get VERY esoteric with this stuff but I would recommend letting the mini-series be a guide. Otherwise, you end up knowing the ending and the fates of various people where in the moment, nobody knew exactly what they were dealing with or how exactly to fix it.

    • @cmSaS
      @cmSaS 5 лет назад +3

      For something more modern. There have been a number of you tubers and such that have gone there but I really liked the stuff that Bionerd23 recorded. It's been awhile since she's posted anything new but it's all before the new Containment Building moved into place. ruclips.net/channel/UC966ccV08PVAmZRhcC0SU8Q

    • @mscheese000
      @mscheese000 5 лет назад

      @@cmSaS Also, Chernobyl kept the remaining reactors operating for years. The last one was only shut down in 2000.

    • @budgreen4x4
      @budgreen4x4 4 года назад

      @@mscheese000 they blew up the turbine hall of #2 in 1992... So that I've was decomissioned earlier

  • @DonMachado
    @DonMachado 5 лет назад +37

    You experience shock, disbelief, horror, and wrap it up by saying, "I can't wait for the next episode." That's what amazing about this program. You can't bare to look, but you can't look away.

  • @davedahl4461
    @davedahl4461 5 лет назад +281

    The black substance the fireman was holding was graphite... it was a piece of the outer casing of a control rod.

    • @lajoswinkler
      @lajoswinkler 5 лет назад +105

      No, even though the control rods had their tips made from graphite, what he's holding is *the core itself* . RBMK is a stack of graphite bricks with holes in them, through which pipes go carrying coolant water, and fuel rods and control rods are inserted. It's a very old type of Soviet fission reactor, nothing like anything made by the West, plus it had no containment structure that would not allow all this crap to get ejected into the environment.
      This is a brick from the core, containing neutron-activated carbon and contaminated with fission products from the blasted fuel rods.
      As such, _immediately after the accident_ it was extremely radioactive, and fuming with volatile parts of fission products like radioactive methyl iodide. Only months after the accident it was safe enough for the liquidators to approach and shovel this debris but only for minute and a half. Not safe, but tolerably safe.

    • @MrFunguspower
      @MrFunguspower 5 лет назад +15

      @@lajoswinkler Thanks man that's genuinely interesting :) (I mean this unironically, not as internet sarcasm)

    • @ZhekUA
      @ZhekUA 5 лет назад +12

      Building of an nuclear reactor has to stand crash of MiG-21 at speed of 1Mach (1 speed of sound). Core is safe if it used at normal parameters. But there was a military experiment about how reactor will be produce electricity in case of air bombardment (few years earlier Israeli Air Force shot down Iraqi nuclear plant). So the personal of nuclear plant run the experiment and manually a shot down all safety systems...
      American reactor in such harsh conditions show it self during tsunami at Fucushima...
      And in series just one fictional person - Uliana Homiuk. All others are real, and reconstruction is accurate.

    • @jonatassilva2605
      @jonatassilva2605 5 лет назад +12

      @@ZhekUA And even her is a amalgamation of other scientists working alongside them, but since it would be "too many characters", they decided to make them all one person. For narrative reasons? It works well.

    • @jack_db_1989
      @jack_db_1989 5 лет назад +1

      @@lajoswinkler thank you for writing a novel that i will understand 2 words of

  • @buckfarmer5354
    @buckfarmer5354 5 лет назад +187

    Highest rated IMDb show ever.

    • @lynnyfee
      @lynnyfee 5 лет назад +5

      For now at least. When shows come out they are usually higher rated but in a year or so it will go down.
      It's a great show but it's not better than band of brothers or planet earth.

    • @mscheese000
      @mscheese000 5 лет назад +7

      @@theredeemer1644 how old are you? Band of Brothers was HUGE in 2001 and it's remained one of the highest-rated TV miniseries of all time.

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 5 лет назад +4

      @@mscheese000 Band of Brothers was ok, but to a non-American, it seemed like another, better-than-average, but still over-sentimental bit of back-patting and mastrubation over WWII, like the Yanks love to make, as if nobody else fought in that war. I can't have an opinion on Planet Earth, as I've not seen it, but it can't be denied that Chernobyl is a superb piece of filmmaking. Between the excellent script, master class acting, and overall excellence in every aspect of design and production, it's a very nearly perfect piece of bleak cautionary tale telling, which is all too timely. And it seems that people worldwide are appreciating it, rather than it being a specifically American phenomenon, as I recall Band of Brothers being. This near universal appreciation is a mark of a particularly great piece of work, the sign of a real piece of art.

    • @Nloveru
      @Nloveru 5 лет назад +4

      @@neuralmute
      I'm a European and consider Band of Brothers to be the best tv-show ever, by far.
      I think Chernobyl is really great, but the dull, stretched animal hunting parts keep it from being at the top for me.

  • @lexbor3511
    @lexbor3511 5 лет назад +149

    They were in deny cause nuclear reactor core according to their knowledge cant explode. Its like u are driving your car and would be very surprised if its fuel tank explodes when you exceed the speed limits. Your first question would be - how the f this car's fuel tank can explode because of this?
    They did not know that a design of this type of nuclear plant had a flaw.

    • @Highbrowser
      @Highbrowser 5 лет назад +31

      It's worse than that. Previous accidents had shown the issues with the RBMK design were considerable, that pushing the control rods in would actually briefly spike things, and that the steam in the coolant could actually increase the criticality of the reactor (when what you wanted was to decrease it) But this is Soviet Russia, so bad things were hushed up, and those who poked their nose in or said too much punished.

    • @13Scorpius13
      @13Scorpius13 5 лет назад +10

      The show immediately begins with a lie: the fact that the reactor-something is wrong, the staff realized immediately, according to the readings in the control room of the reactor. But in that situation, the first and only correct solution was to activate the water supply to the reactor zone in order to prevent the melting of the core and a possible explosion. This is the only decision that could be made based on the data you have right here and now. No one could know that a significant part of the reactor fuel is no longer in the core. The scale of the disaster became clear only after a few hours - and from that moment began active actions to prepare for the evacuation of the population, as well as to eliminate the consequences of the disaster. The scale of the disaster became clear only after a few hours - and from that moment began active actions to prepare for the evacuation of the population, as well as to eliminate the consequences of the disaster.

    • @brian2440
      @brian2440 5 лет назад +2

      I would say yes and no. The majority of people didn't about many of the flaws in design, but to start the disaster the operators were running a safety test that by all historical measures of developing nuclear reactor technology needed to have been completed long before that time. Maybe youre not going to know that if there's an issue during the test that means x, but if you were a senior operator during the tests you most likely had prior experience to tell you that this plant was not up to par.

    • @Zayandeh38
      @Zayandeh38 5 лет назад +4

      So all of this is right, but I think the denial has a lot to do with the totalitarian structure of the state/society they lived in. Leaving aside whether they knew (seems most at the plant would not have had access to the studies on the previous failures of the technology), admitting the severity of what happened meant acknowledging accountability for it in a system that would not reward honesty.

    • @lexbor3511
      @lexbor3511 5 лет назад +1

      @@Zayandeh38 U r right but its rather typical human behavior pattern in any society. The totalitarian state only amplifies it.

  • @darajackson3517
    @darajackson3517 5 лет назад +117

    We all no the names of the 3 man that landed on the moon... But no one knows the names of the 3 who went down to remove the water that saved the planet.... That's is crazy... Love the show

    • @marcinhumbla8508
      @marcinhumbla8508 5 лет назад +20

      Alexei Ananenko, Valeri Bezpalov and Boris Baranov. You can find information about them in wikipedia and their names were mentioned in the show.

    • @Cassxowary
      @Cassxowary 5 лет назад +16

      US mentality of thinking the world revolves around them and exists to please them...

    • @user-is7yo6vz1k
      @user-is7yo6vz1k 5 лет назад +4

      @@marcinhumbla8508 Moreover, those 3 brave men did not die after this actions. It was a miracle. And they did not have gas masks as in the show, but only respirators in real life. And they did not drink Vodka, it is not true.

    • @FireOccator
      @FireOccator 5 лет назад +5

      They weren't used as propaganda material. The Soviet Union tried to sweep the entire thing under the rug.

    • @MrHans818
      @MrHans818 5 лет назад +1

      @@FireOccator That is what communist always do on anything if something goes wrong. It put communism in a bad light.

  • @BobbyCoggins
    @BobbyCoggins 5 лет назад +25

    Reactor: "I need something to fill the void"
    Watches something that will create an even larger void and leave a hole in their soul.

  • @wellingtonsmith4998
    @wellingtonsmith4998 5 лет назад +37

    girl ya nailed it "they were too busy looking good and didn't protect their people"

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 5 лет назад +3

      Soviet Union, so called land of the people
      where the people were disposable resources

    • @NapoleonBonaparde
      @NapoleonBonaparde 5 лет назад +2

      @@generalhorse493 Sacrifice was one of the mantras of the former SSSR that's how they won WW2 just mass sacrifice

  • @BladePHF
    @BladePHF 5 лет назад +119

    You may have already looked this all up, but in case you didn't or didn't find answers to some of the stuff you were wondering about:
    -Those chunks of debris with the circular inner groove were part of the reactor itself, they were graphite blocks that would house the control rods. This made them some of the most radioactive material to be expelled by the explosion and land in the immediate vicinity. Touching them or even being in proximity to them was essentially a death-sentence.
    -Yes, the show is largely historically accurate. A single major character later on is something of a composite of several people rather than being their own self, but everyone else is someone who was alive and involved in the disaster. The various infuriatingly stubborn and seemingly ignorant character, like Assistant Chief Engineer Anatoly Dyatlov (the man repeating that it couldn't have been a reactor explosion), are more or less true to their real-world selves. Some of this behavior was down to institutional orthodoxy (see below) but a lot was the general culture of distrust and fear inherent in the Soviet bureaucracy. Notice how loads of characters are quick to blame someone else, or to put someone else in the firing line when asked a question, or how quickly they delegate. This paralyses the decision-making process because everyone in power is afraid of their direct superiors and distrustful of their peers. The show gets this right perfectly.
    -If you look up the actual mechanical cause of the explosion you will find detailed information on it, but the show will likely present this information later on as it became available to the people involved. At the time it really was believed by the majority of engineers and scientists involved in nuclear physics in the Soviet Union that RBMK reactors like the ones in Chernobyl simply couldn't explode. Like, not in terms of them being safe but that it was mechanically impossible for them to explode. This, of course, turned out to not be the case.
    Anyway, great reaction, thanks! Hope you keep watching the show!

    • @gerbenvanessen
      @gerbenvanessen 5 лет назад

      why are you explaining everything that gets explained in the second episode?

    • @BladePHF
      @BladePHF 5 лет назад +15

      @@gerbenvanessen What part of what I said gets explained in the second episode? The graphite gets mentioned but in a different context to the one we see in episode 1, and they don't even draw a direct link to it. The second and third paragraphs I posted don't even directly reference plot points or anything like that, just stuff around the irl circumstances. Not sure what your issue is.

    • @tomgrant29
      @tomgrant29 5 лет назад +15

      There's a huge element of denial involved as well - if they admit to themselves what's really happened, they are admitting that they are all facing an inevitable, uncurable painful death :(

    • @13Scorpius13
      @13Scorpius13 5 лет назад

      Sorry, man, but you're carrying a full BS. The show was all distorted, if only to put people "ignorant horrible commies". While there are thousands of original documents that described the events in Chernobyl almost by the second - the show shows some unscientific nonsense. embellish events. Just a few facts: about 100 people died because of the Chernobyl disaster- almost all of them were volunteers who eliminated the consequences of the accident at the initial stage. The Soviet government then acted much more effectively than, for example, the government of Japan after Fukushima. The show just lied about a lot of things, changing the real facts. So my advice to you is to study history on documents and real evidence, not on TV shows.

    • @13Scorpius13
      @13Scorpius13 5 лет назад

      @edwardmashberg1 Johnny, you stupid. First, 36 hours is nothing for the scale of any disaster. More often than not, it takes weeks before the full extent and impact of such large-scale disasters are understood. Also, what difference does it make how the Swedes got information about the accident? The background radiation in Sweden was only slightly elevated. The main part of the problem areas was within 200 kilometers from Chernobyl, that is, did not affect Sweden.

  • @gregcsokas
    @gregcsokas 5 лет назад +14

    I was born in 1986 November so my mother was pregnant with me when the CNPP blown up. My grandfather had a small farm with grape, and few days after the explosion he said to my father, the grape leaf was burnt as if somebody have been punctured them with hot needles. Later he died in some kind of side effect of rediation exposure, if I remeber correctly in leukemia, before when I was born (within 6 months). And the "fun" thing we are lived 1000km from CNPP.
    And no I havent third or fourth leg or arm, and I haven't any kind of superpower.

  • @harryrichards9581
    @harryrichards9581 5 лет назад +7

    Interesting fact for you. The man who held the door open for the other two when they look into the core. He lived, and is still alive today. The other two died within hours of exposure. In fact, much of what is shown here actually did happen. Even the firefighter picking up the graphite. This shit really did happen.
    Raise a glass for Valery Khodemchuk, who is still buried under the rubble today. And every poor soul on that fire department, who died. They were all buried in zinc coffins, sealed up and encased in concrete. There is very little embellishment.

    • @milonga_
      @milonga_ 4 года назад +1

      Harry Richards Aleksandr Yuvchenko died of Leukemia in 2008

  • @Bawookles
    @Bawookles 5 лет назад +59

    Thanks for reacting to this, it's an incredible miniseries. Episode 2 is mind-boggling.

    • @ManicMeeks
      @ManicMeeks  5 лет назад +3

      Thank you for watching!

    • @Arcane1604
      @Arcane1604 5 лет назад

      @@ManicMeeks Will you be doing episode 2 and 3 reaction?

    • @ManicMeeks
      @ManicMeeks  5 лет назад +2

      @@Arcane1604 absolutely! I went on vacation right after I posted one. Two will be up today. And three will be up on Thursday. Thanks for watching!

    • @Arcane1604
      @Arcane1604 5 лет назад

      @@ManicMeeks great.......suscribed.

    • @jack_db_1989
      @jack_db_1989 5 лет назад +2

      Bro im 12 and watching this, i was ok with skin burning of but when the guy puked, that was the end for me. AND GOD DAMN THAT ENDING ON EPISODE TWO.... the gieger counters turning of and the torches.

  • @jaxortjackie05
    @jaxortjackie05 5 лет назад +15

    You are absolutely right about their cavalier attitude. But remember, the USSR communist regime couldn’t lose face. The State was more important than the individual. This series is actually about how governments will lie even at the expense of their own people. Plus the managers would lie so hopefully they wouldn’t be blamed and shot. Pretty rotten system. They knew in ‘76 that these reactors could have this problem but they built them anyway.

  • @Luvcatz88
    @Luvcatz88 5 лет назад +18

    "ya'll is dead dead"
    And you're my new favorite person

  • @QuantumDarkness
    @QuantumDarkness 5 лет назад +52

    There's also a podcast by the producers that you can find anywhere including the HBO RUclips channel.

    • @leemullen433
      @leemullen433 5 лет назад +5

      I can’t recommend it enough, it gives a lot of great insight into the series.

  • @jesusleyva4386
    @jesusleyva4386 5 лет назад +42

    This is an awesome and terrifying show. Loved your reaction also I highly recommend you watch The Battle of Chernobyl documentary

  • @davedahl4461
    @davedahl4461 5 лет назад +35

    Anatoly Djyatlov was a real person and he was an arrogant, dour man, he was in such heavy denial, he saw the graphite he knew what had happened but his mind couldn’t accept it.
    He lived into the 1990s and never once owned any responsibility for his behavior.

    • @Caesar88888
      @Caesar88888 5 лет назад +2

      not sure about that, its a dark story, Dyatlov himself says he was turned into scapegoat by authority and its quite believable. I am from Kiev by the way - 100km from this nuclearplant.

    • @angelamorton1744
      @angelamorton1744 5 лет назад +3

      That wasn’t the only accident he was involved in with radiation... and the result was that his son died

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 5 лет назад +4

      He wrote a book about Chernobyl, and takes not one bit of responsibility in it, ever. He blames everyone and everything but himself. When he died in 1995 he was likely still wallowing in the denial that he'd been in since a previous accident he was involved with years before. He comes off as a very angry, bitter man, even in his own words.

    • @Caesar88888
      @Caesar88888 5 лет назад +1

      @@neuralmuteangry? in his interview he sounds calm and reasonable even after 10 years in jail

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 5 лет назад +2

      @@Caesar88888 He didn't spend 10 years in jail, he was sentenced to 10 years but let out in 1990

  • @KateDenthimamai
    @KateDenthimamai 5 лет назад +14

    A simple mask wouldn't help them, the radiation from Chernobyl even went through concrete, it traveled all throughout Europe and the continent is still effected to some extent to this day.
    And the show is not only following real events, but also the real stories of the names mentioned in it. These stories actually happened the exact way it is shown and the crew behind it did a great job showing even minor details of Soviet Union during the 80s.

    • @Haegemon
      @Haegemon 5 лет назад +1

      The world has no compartments, eventually every nuclear weapon tested and every nuclear leak affects the whole planet.

    • @theproplady
      @theproplady 5 лет назад +2

      To be fair, a dust mask would keep radioactive dust from getting into their lungs (which would've made things ten times worse than they were...)

  • @phoenixartist6357
    @phoenixartist6357 5 лет назад +25

    Jup this guy was a real Person. The engineer in chief Anatoly Dyatlov.

    • @hypercomms2001
      @hypercomms2001 5 лет назад +2

      Individual involvement in the Chernobyl disaster..
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_involvement_in_the_Chernobyl_disaster

  • @fxbear
    @fxbear 3 года назад +4

    I really appreciate your reaction to this disaster. I’ve seen others react who are so busy trying to be cute or funny that they just don’t seem to grasp the utter horror of what happened. It makes me angry because so many died and there were true hero’s that gave their lives willingly to save millions more. Their story deserves respect.

    • @claudiabailey5302
      @claudiabailey5302 11 месяцев назад

      I haven’t see any reactions where people are trying to be cute or funny. Most people can’t believe the level of horror that this explosion brings along with the deaths whilst brave men put themselves in danger knowing they will die trying to make the place safe.

  • @terrakie
    @terrakie 5 лет назад +12

    THIS is the reaction I have been waiting to see. Thank you!

  • @OnTheRocks71
    @OnTheRocks71 5 лет назад +18

    Read the wiki on this accident, it's as terrifying as you could imagine.

  • @iv7796
    @iv7796 5 лет назад +35

    I grew up near that place, it had terrible effects on so many people. Im happy this story is finally being told properly with out the coverup.

    • @katyb6979
      @katyb6979 5 лет назад +4

      Ivan Valentine For me, the best thing about the series is it's showing how secretive the old USSR was, and how they attempted to cover it up. Sad that it took this tragedy for the whole socialist system to break up.

    • @iv7796
      @iv7796 5 лет назад +1

      @@katyb6979 That and decades of terrible management. Socialism turns society into burocratic hell..

    • @_b_x_b_1063
      @_b_x_b_1063 5 лет назад

      @@iv7796 А без СССР начался такой ***дец, что до сих пор все еще не устаканилось. СССР нужны были реформы, а не развал. Пример- Китай.

    • @iv7796
      @iv7796 5 лет назад

      @@_b_x_b_1063 Китай где тебе в жопу смотрит коммунистическая партия

  • @grandfathergeek
    @grandfathergeek 5 лет назад +8

    I was in my 20s during this time, and I listened to it on Radio Moscow- they denied it for months and still don’t admit it all- and I cried while watching this show

    • @joeyboedeker7205
      @joeyboedeker7205 5 лет назад +1

      I became a news hound during this time. Trying to get news was incredibly difficult

  • @natalyatotskoynova5455
    @natalyatotskoynova5455 5 лет назад +6

    Your reaction video is amazing. Enjoyed rewatching this masterpiece with you ❤️

  • @Boondock980
    @Boondock980 5 лет назад +29

    Lived in Germany in 87, the west germans were very *twitchy* about nuclear energy after that.

    • @MrJustaguy74
      @MrJustaguy74 5 лет назад +7

      I was in Germany during the time of the accident as well. Nothing like seeing Geiger Counters in the PX.

    • @IvanIvanouv
      @IvanIvanouv 5 лет назад +1

      And they destroyed their nuclear energy from fear. Now they buy gas from us, and we are building new ВВЭР-1200 reactors for their money.

    • @Boondock980
      @Boondock980 5 лет назад

      @@IvanIvanouv better for your economy anyways. Gass is bad, but nuclear is worse if there is an accident🤔😁

    • @ReddwarfIV
      @ReddwarfIV 3 года назад

      @@Boondock980 Gas is actually one of the cleanest fossil fuels. Even so, nuclear has a lower deaths per kilowatt-hour.

    • @Boondock980
      @Boondock980 3 года назад

      @@ReddwarfIV that's fine and dandy, where are you from and how old are you?

  • @andyb1653
    @andyb1653 5 лет назад +2

    Imagine, looking into the shattered reactor just moments after it blew up. You would realize you have just stared into Hell itself, and you are literally a dead man walking. Damn.

  • @lunagal
    @lunagal 5 лет назад +11

    Clearly they didn't have any business working with nuclear radiation because they didn't know how devastating it was. They didn't know how much they didn't know....until it was too late. The music/soundtrack is so eerie and haunting! Good reaction!

    • @thorkagemob1297
      @thorkagemob1297 5 лет назад +4

      To be fair no one really knew. It was the first time in history that a nuclear reactor exploded. Now they definitely were in denial way too long but when I learned that fact it made me understand their feelings in the way beginning more

    • @ManicMeeks
      @ManicMeeks  5 лет назад +2

      Thank you for watching! It is just mind-boggling how much they didn't know about what they were working with.

    • @lunagal
      @lunagal 5 лет назад

      MOB 12% Their “not knowing” was not true. That is true of the layman that had no training. But by 1986, the plant operators should have had some clue. Just from this show, the operators knew and were panicking. The people saying otherwise had so many reasons for pretending they didn’t know. The government guys knew it was bad, or they wouldn’t have been so nervous and ready to tell lies. Governments had been studying nuclear energy for 40+ years already. They knew...and were trying to play dumb or cover it up.

  • @robertkelly9433
    @robertkelly9433 5 лет назад +2

    It's surprising how many people just finding out now what happened over 30 years ago thanks to that HBO miniseries. And just few percentage of us know that the battle is still on ,even now in 2019.

    • @Zaluskowsky
      @Zaluskowsky 5 лет назад

      I was 14 those days. I can remember the talk about no salad these days, don't go out in the rain.
      Totally buried it as some bad news whatsoever. Good thing this mini series gets so much attention.

  • @nalrkmi3641
    @nalrkmi3641 5 лет назад +7

    It’s the most chilling series I’ve ever seen because it’s all true and every episode is more shocking and horrifying than the last 10/10 for this show

    • @Olich_kin
      @Olich_kin 5 лет назад +1

      There not all true. Dont take it like history movie.

    • @nalrkmi3641
      @nalrkmi3641 5 лет назад

      елена баженова yeah I should have put that better and after listening to the podcasts I realise that’s not the case but still shocking when most is true

  • @R3adybreck
    @R3adybreck 5 лет назад +20

    Nobody: .....
    Vladamir I Lenin Nuclear Reactor: IM ABOUT TO END THIS USSR'S WHOLE IMAGE

    • @radziwill7193
      @radziwill7193 5 лет назад +1

      It's funny that instead of Vladimir Ilyich you say Vladimir I (the first) like the emperor.

  • @Rina-ie2sz
    @Rina-ie2sz 5 лет назад +1

    I also remember next summer going with my grandpa checking on radiation with dosimeter in peoples gardens “dacha” . And my grandpa showing me dosimeter and explaining why radiation around trunk of a tree was higher than on a grass . My grandpa was checking radiation that summer all around the Kiev . In 1989 he got very sick , something with his blood. My parents friend who was a doctor but also a likvidator knew how to treat those problems. That doctor also had same problems with blood a year after the Chernobyl but he treated himself . My grandpa was cured at that time but eventually died from cancer in 1998 .

  • @NickCMOS
    @NickCMOS 5 лет назад +35

    6:43
    "If this shit happened in real life"
    UMMMM
    Just a friendly reminder....
    IT FREAKING DID AND IT WAS THE WORST WORLD NUCLEARN DISASTER EVER
    ok nvm you stated it later in the video.... sorry

    • @Nmccarville
      @Nmccarville 5 лет назад +1

      Fukashima is many times worse then Chernoby one of Fukashima's reators had 5 times the nuclear material an 3 of them melted down do to lack of cooling

    • @joeymerk3706
      @joeymerk3706 5 лет назад +7

      Nmccarville um no, no it's not. This was a nuclear explosion. Fukushima was a Hydrogen explosion. Big fucking difference. Plus the way the USSR reacted makes this much worse..

    • @joeyboedeker7205
      @joeyboedeker7205 5 лет назад

      @@joeymerk3706 radioactive material is radioactive material!! And is still leaking into the Pacific, aka food chain.

    • @joeymerk3706
      @joeymerk3706 5 лет назад +1

      Joey Boedeker Um no their not exactly the same. You obviously didn't understand me...

    • @joeyboedeker7205
      @joeyboedeker7205 5 лет назад

      @@joeymerk3706 point I'm trying to make is,nuke power is not to be played around with.

  • @happyseralstudent
    @happyseralstudent 5 лет назад +6

    He touched highly radioactive graphite that was in the core. He received a lethal dose after holding it for a few seconds.

  • @shellycarter1691
    @shellycarter1691 5 лет назад +1

    lol THANK YOU! this was me watching this series, was talking to the screen to! Like don't go in there!! and nope no way am I going to look, each episode is this good and this upsetting. I can't wait to see the last two episodes, and I am terrified to watch to.

  • @AdamBorseti
    @AdamBorseti 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for reacting to this! Looking forward to seeing more! Edit: subscribed after seeing you're also playing Metro 2033.

  • @kaylo492
    @kaylo492 5 лет назад +4

    I LOVE THIS REACTION VIDEO!!! YOU are ME in every way when I watched this series. Like...in EVERY WAY!!! LOLOLOL!!!

  • @madcat4301
    @madcat4301 5 лет назад +4

    There's a book called "Voices From Chernobyl" The second story tells what happened to that firefighter's wife and their baby. That book will break your heart.

    • @neuralmute
      @neuralmute 5 лет назад

      I have to second this! That entire book is as intense and gut-wrenching as the show; in fact they got a lot of the storylines for the series out of that book. I'm glad that they changed and skipped some things though... Like when the guys on dog duty ran out of bullets...

  • @gerbenvanessen
    @gerbenvanessen 5 лет назад +5

    this is an excellent reaction.
    wait holy shit a metro 2033 playthrough, this channel is +10 excellent.

    • @ManicMeeks
      @ManicMeeks  5 лет назад

      Thank you for watching and subscribing!

  • @Alysana2604
    @Alysana2604 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you so much for taking interest in Chernobyl. I'm so glad this show came out. I was born in Ukraine and moved out when I was 8, but I go back to visit my relatives every year and I can't stress enough how culturally accurate this show is. Also, half of my family died from cancer and I suspect it was due to all the radiation around us. It's not 100% historically accurate, but the major points are true. If anyone is interested, I made a rant after finishing it myself about how it ties into my life and how fucked up the russian reception has been online. They are so offended by it! I think it's an amazing piece of art and a worthy testimony to the heroes who made sure we are still alive by risking their own lives. Vichnaya Pamyat.

  • @dastemplar9681
    @dastemplar9681 5 лет назад +1

    What really makes it even more tragic is if those two who looked directly at ruptured core had simply jumped into it killing themselves, they would’ve spared themselves a fate much worse.

  • @katenikii
    @katenikii 5 лет назад +10

    it's actually better to watch with some knowledge, we were taught about Chernobyl at school(I'm Russian), Dyatlov really denied everything because he was exposed to too much radiation before and it didn't kill him, however his son died because of it

    • @brendanmarriott661
      @brendanmarriott661 5 лет назад +1

      Ekaterina Nikiforova they talked about that in the podcast about the show

    • @MrHans818
      @MrHans818 5 лет назад

      I am reading some of the crazy things being said. They need to listen to you and how the communist treated there people. Most of the people talking never even lived in those days and know nothing about communism and how they work. This is a movie on the subject and they would better off just getting a history book on the subject. Another thing we lived during the cold war, just the opposite side of it and we were still in it when this happened. Just happened at the very end of it.

  • @katyb6979
    @katyb6979 5 лет назад +4

    I hope you've done what I did - watched ep1, then spent a week researching Chernobyl on RUclips. Then I watched the episode again, before watching ep2. It made much more sense, and it was 99.9% totally true. Awesome series, written brilliantly, but also sensitively to the real heroes of this tragedy.

  • @PrivateCustard
    @PrivateCustard 5 лет назад +1

    Almost none of the reactors appear to have spotted that anyone who looks at the core actually burns in real-time, right in front of the viewers, with two of them almost glowing. It just feels like something really important, that demonstrates just how dangerous this unseen evil really is, is being overlooked.
    Sure, holding a piece of irradiated graphite is demonstrably bad. But to cook faster than a pork chop under a grill just by being near it, and not even feeling it initially, that shit is terrifying.

  • @barbarjinx3802
    @barbarjinx3802 5 лет назад +14

    The entire point of this show is about what happens when a political party denies the entire idea of the truth and the supremacy of facts. And what happens when that political party has full control of the government. See any modern parallels?
    There is a podcast for the show. The Creator talks about what is fact and what was dramatized. Unfortunately for the first episode it is almost all accurate.

    • @BigChiken44
      @BigChiken44 5 лет назад +2

      be honest - yes, you can see modern parallels, it's very good to criticize any government (american, russian, whatever), find lies in it, and your idea is correct. BUT cmon, what you have now in modern US - it's not even close to the level of lie in USSR. USSR was hermetic system with absolute control of every media and every organisation.

    • @Freespeech141
      @Freespeech141 5 лет назад

      Артём Лузик I agree but there is some pressure on us, cultural, to watch what we say, free speech is being impeded, we’re becoming oblivious to it.
      That’s when it’s dangerous! Normal conditioning - like those poor guys, accepting and not arguing! Except for the miners! “Don’t lie to them!”

  • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
    @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 5 лет назад +1

    I’m really happy you’re reacting to this. I’ve been watching it every Monday night & have been enjoying it quite a bit. Looking forward to seeing your take on it. I was 18 when it happened & remember it being pretty crazy & the Russians were not at all forthcoming about what had happened & the extent of the damage.

  • @wysiwyg2006
    @wysiwyg2006 5 лет назад +8

    episodes 3 and 4 are truly shocking but essential viewing too

  • @44excalibur
    @44excalibur 5 лет назад +2

    The thing that the fireman touched was a chunk of the graphite moderators on the control rods in the reactor that moderate the nuclear reaction.

  • @TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll
    @TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll 5 лет назад +3

    Great reaction!
    I can recommend HBO's podcast (same name, also on RUclips) with the writer/producer of the show, which goes into which details (most of them!) really happened and what they changed for "better story" purposes, as well as some stuff they wanted to include but eventually cut.

  • @charleneraymond4036
    @charleneraymond4036 5 лет назад +6

    We are virtually the same person! 😅 When I tell you we had the SAME reactions. This show gave me so many chills. It's so well done & doesn't feel like over the top Hollywood BS

  • @marrenby
    @marrenby 5 лет назад

    Girl, when you said “Jesus be a fence” I wanted to fall on the floor!!! 😂😂😂 New subscriber!!!

    • @blacknoise
      @blacknoise 5 лет назад +1

      Marren B. Cole I was like “Jesus be thirty feet of lead” lmao

  • @ej9842
    @ej9842 5 лет назад +2

    When us old folks talk about the horrors of Communism, this is what we're talking about.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski 5 лет назад

    You’re great. The way you reacted is how I should have reacted! So yes I subscribed. I realize I missed some dramatic stuff (I’m not a multitasker). I’m watching again.

  • @keithnphx63
    @keithnphx63 5 лет назад +11

    I see someone has already suggested it, but let me second the recommendation to watch The Expanse. Many folks say it's the best hard scifi show on TV right now. Great story. The acting gets stronger as the series develops. Great political intrigue akin to Game of Thrones. Check it out!
    Really enjoyed your reaction to Chernobyl. This show is so freaking intense!

    • @lajoswinkler
      @lajoswinkler 5 лет назад

      It's SF, not sci-fi. And it's good.

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive 5 лет назад

      not very good , tbh . Magnificient century is good

  • @Lfeodorovna
    @Lfeodorovna 5 лет назад

    loved this reaction!
    this seriesso wild-seeing these employees running around the station in basically scrubs and those men actually facing the reactor especially

  • @PYROTOAD
    @PYROTOAD 5 лет назад

    So basically the core of the reactor did explode, the had a power lose then a power surge causing massive amounts of steam to build then then it caused a small explosion, and then core exploded and opened the core causing extreme amounts of U-235, graphite, and boron. Which are radioactive. And the man is Anatoly Dyatlov he was the chief engineer of the building. Radiation does not infect it causing contamination. And it destroys the cells, causing internal bleeding, blisters, skin and hair lose, and basically kills in every way possible. Chernobyl broke Down on SO many levels so please let me know if you have any questions! Awesome video

  • @markwoolcock7626
    @markwoolcock7626 5 лет назад +12

    There is a podcast by the makers of the series it gives all the backgrounds stuff it called Chernobyl it very insightful.

    • @RedBear535
      @RedBear535 5 лет назад

      Mark Woolcock I binged the first three episodes of the podcast. Very informative and enthralling.

  • @k9px
    @k9px 5 лет назад +7

    "You're all infected!!!" =))

  • @jahnsmith1982
    @jahnsmith1982 5 лет назад +5

    I enjoy your reaction to this amazing tv series.

  • @elitegaming4506
    @elitegaming4506 5 лет назад +5

    a mask wouldnt do anything for them as the radiation penetrates through you completely. you would need a thick lead suit to be safe which would be impossible to have

    • @bentos117
      @bentos117 5 лет назад

      it is used to not breathe radioactive dust particles... which get very dangerous once inside

    • @elitegaming4506
      @elitegaming4506 5 лет назад

      @@bentos117 that would matter as they are already exposed. the radiation goes straight through them, therefore is already inside them

    • @bentos117
      @bentos117 5 лет назад

      @@elitegaming4506 yeah, but alpha and beta particles are not too dangerous unless inhaled; radioactive dust is much more dangerous if inside body... and radiation level was varying in different places at or near reactor (3rd reactor was running well after explosion; workers took iodine tablets and put on masks there). Ofc, if a person gets 1500 rems by looking into reactor core, mask won't help. Actually, protection against dust is a first countermeasure in case of nuclear fallout, as I was taught in civil defense lectures (I am not a nuclear scientist or something). Washing it away, not letting inside your body, changing clothes. Ideally, having a dosimeter. Iodine tablets to prevent thyroid cancer. Hiding behind a thick, solid wall can make difference, away from gamma ray source.

  • @timpower4922
    @timpower4922 5 лет назад

    Great reaction! This show is really intense. Plays like a horror flick. But it actually went down. Crazy.

  • @skyhigh7773
    @skyhigh7773 5 лет назад +1

    I m from lithuania and this film was made in my home contry cuz we HAD THE SAME PLACE LIKE "ČARNOBILIS'' and later or sooner it would been the same fate. And the thing is that alot of good people there secrifised there lifes to save hole wrold. How strong you should by psaihologicly. Thats crazy cuz i and milions of people could be never born. This power is still working under grownd and it will by there for thousands of years until its stops or so we pray that heppendes. In fact it is still hunting my family members cuz my mother saw the clouds that had the "bullets,, in it and THANK GOD IT DIDIN'T rain. My moms sisters dother had baby and it was still afected!!! She didin't heve fully developed finger and doctors say that it could by still the power of cernobyl.
    And it is not foult of people it is foult of power that the uper people and russians politics had. They had and STILL heve perfecionist tendences.

  • @kiltlvr
    @kiltlvr 5 лет назад +1

    Your reaction is exactly how I reacted when we saw these episodes. Do listen to the podcasts for each episode (listed as Part One for E1, Part Two for E2, and so on). The podcasts give detailed facts and verify how much in each episode is truly depicted. It’s chilling.

  • @rcortez5979
    @rcortez5979 5 лет назад

    Where can i watch the full reaction video? Looks so interesting to see the whole thing

  • @iloveyourunclebob
    @iloveyourunclebob 5 лет назад

    Somber show, but am very happy to find more and more people reacting to it! So well done and I get to find even more awesome youtubers

  • @nomedigaasi
    @nomedigaasi 5 лет назад +2

    Manic, your reaction is perfect and accurate-I would have arrested all those responsible for the damage to that reactor!
    HBO did a smart move though, after that terrible final episode of GOT, having Chernobyl help to forget our disappointment and wrap our attention to this amazing mini series.

  • @joshuapayne8811
    @joshuapayne8811 5 лет назад +2

    My favorite part: "ya'all is DEAD dead" 😂

  • @isengrim99
    @isengrim99 5 лет назад +2

    What a genuine, honest reaction....

  • @Aiyoku4
    @Aiyoku4 5 лет назад +4

    But the commentary! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Immediately subscribing!

  • @davidmarsden192
    @davidmarsden192 5 лет назад

    Great reaction vid! :-) I binge watched all five episodes on the weekend. it is intense. And Heartbreaking. And Shocking. Buckle up - there are some intense scenes ahead.

  • @liliyakhasanova5400
    @liliyakhasanova5400 5 лет назад +6

    Unfortunately it has actually happened(( and the film shows the facts, soviet people, their life mostly very accurate, all small details are very very good done!!!! I'm impressed..

  • @eddtheducky
    @eddtheducky 5 лет назад +5

    I subscribed because of "Jesus be a fence"... I may have got it wrong 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ForgottenHonor0
    @ForgottenHonor0 4 года назад

    "I can't believe this happened." Neither did they, but it did. And the effects it's had on thousands are still being felt.

  • @Strider91
    @Strider91 5 лет назад +1

    This was the first time anything like thus ever happened in history. It was unprecedented, honestly there was no playbook on how to deal with this. Guy kept saying reactor's dont explode because until this time. . . . None ever had.

  • @jerryduckery2805
    @jerryduckery2805 5 лет назад +1

    Love your reaction videos and I agree with you I cannot believe this actually happened😨

  • @jesusfreaklol1
    @jesusfreaklol1 5 лет назад

    im happy to see someone reacting to this

  • @vzhurkin
    @vzhurkin 5 лет назад +1

    Father of my friend died in 3 weeks after explosion. This miniseries is almost truth, you should know it every second of watching. The current stability of our reactors was paid by rivers of blood.

  • @dra6ke
    @dra6ke 5 лет назад +2

    This show was a 10/10 for me. So amazing.

  • @mbhugs7264
    @mbhugs7264 4 года назад

    I love you, you had every reaction I did.

  • @madapigi1
    @madapigi1 5 лет назад +1

    I am really surprised and agry that there are so many people (mainly americans) don't even know about this accident! I mean this is the history of ALL humanity, everyone NEEDS to know.

    • @fai-pe7oq
      @fai-pe7oq 5 лет назад

      Giulia. We learn about it in school, there just isn’t a great emphasis placed on it (depends on where you are in the country, content and quality of education can wildly differ from state to state in the US). We mainly learn US history in one grade and then world history all in another. I would’ve loved to learn about it way back, but at least this show is bringing more attention to this catastrophe here in the US

  • @Proximate1
    @Proximate1 5 лет назад +3

    Those people in the soviet union had no choice but to do what they were told, everybody was expendable property for the state. I know because i grew up in a former soviet satelitte country.

  • @polly_norge
    @polly_norge 5 лет назад

    I am from Russia and I remember how my grandmother told me that they didn’t know anything about the explosion for a long time and the government had been lying to everyone that it wasn’t so serious. It's disgusting how people can do that! This happens when people are afraid and hold back information from the government, and after the government is afraid of people panic and hold back all the information from their citizens. I am grateful to every person who helped spell out the consequences of this disaster!

  • @miely0847
    @miely0847 4 года назад

    It was the graphite from the reactor core lying on the ground. When Dyatlov stops and looks out the broken windows down at the ground and sees the black stuff...that’s graphite from the core and super radioactive

  • @tabithascriven9441
    @tabithascriven9441 5 лет назад

    I’ve been devouring any and all reactions to this show I can find. It was so well done, enough cannot be said to pay it true justice, but @ 4:00 when you said “no bitch he can’t stand” 😂😂😂😂
    We friends for life now

  • @Varvarmisanthrope
    @Varvarmisanthrope 5 лет назад +4

    Чернобыль meaning black + true story
    = sinister (evil), from the name of herb Artemísia vulgáris.

  • @mbhugs7264
    @mbhugs7264 5 лет назад

    I love your reaction because it was the same as mine LOL!! It was real life, this really happened. I cannot believe it either.

  • @SayaCeline
    @SayaCeline 5 лет назад

    This show is disturbingly accurate in both the events of the explosion and the way the government tried to downplay it. I absolutely LOVED this show's depiction! The book Voices from Chernobyl was a huge inspiration to the creator and it is a powerful read. I'm making way through it now and I recommend it!

  • @AllTheArtsy
    @AllTheArtsy 5 лет назад

    I knew a lot about the Chernobyl disaster just from being a kid whose parents watched a lot of documentaries, and am interested in science and space so I also know about radiation, and almost every step of the way watching this miniseries was almost painful. Like, the absolute misinformation that killed those plant workers, the firemen. The rise in cancer rates in Ukraine and Belarus, especially among children. It's actually heartbreaking.

  • @Rina-ie2sz
    @Rina-ie2sz 5 лет назад +1

    Now that I watched the 3 series , I can tell - they didn’t show everything that went with the people and Soviet cover up . My father had friends physicists and they knew how dangerous it was in Kiev and Chernobyl but Soviets commanded everyone to be on the 1 May parade . In Kiev and Chernobyl itself ! We (me and my sister) we’re kept inside since my parents knew about the radioactivity in Kiev but my father had to go to this parade . He spend a few hours there . He died from cancer at age 52 :( Me and my sister left Kiev May 3 and returned at September . But my father stayed there the whole summer:(

  • @castielwinchester6222
    @castielwinchester6222 5 лет назад

    I really love your reaction 😍😍

  • @adambuesser6264
    @adambuesser6264 5 лет назад

    How to deal with radiation when in contact with skin/flesh?

  • @lidiia_s
    @lidiia_s 5 лет назад

    Thank you for your video!

  • @weisthor0815
    @weisthor0815 5 лет назад

    german here. i was 6 when it happened. i remember we were not allowed to eat vegetables and fruits that grew outside in that time. in southern germany you can still measure the radiation in the ground today. it´s considered dangerous to eat too much wild mushrooms.

  • @robinhood5627
    @robinhood5627 5 лет назад +7

    9:41 He didn't volunteer, did you see the soldier with him? that was heavily implied threat of being arrested or shot if he disobeyed a senior. This was the USSR in 1980s. Do as you are told or die.

    • @lauratroy13
      @lauratroy13 5 лет назад +2

      I rather get shot than look into the core

    • @_b_x_b_1063
      @_b_x_b_1063 5 лет назад

      Witnesses recalled that there were no armed guards, the authorities were wearing standard overalls.