considering like 99.9% of content creators seem to either start in the grasslands or the desert... and since my only play through so far has been on the grasslands... i was really thinking of starting in the northern forest.... for a change... though you mentioning about going through non-starting zones made me wonder if there would a viable starting location in the titan forest... but also made me curious if a generally dangerous option would be good also if i chose to place all creatures to passive mode instead of being aggressive....
I'll be starting in the Dune Desert. It has a ton of iron, plenty of coal, water, limestone, quartz and caterium for the early game. Oil is not far away just through the Desert Canyons.
I will still start in the Dunes. In my opinion, it is the best place to start for people who have played this game before. The amount of space and resources is insane. The biggest downside being lack of oil, and the sand dunes. I always end up having my factories fairly high up because of the dunes.
I feel like the dune desert is a worse grassy fields. It's a lot easier to expand from grassy, imo, you have pretty much flat and easy roads to the western side of the map with a huge ocean and plenty of oil, and it also has the 2 lakes with plenty of coal for coal power early on (blue crater and that one small lake north of grassy fields)
I feel like the area between the coal and the 4 pure iron nodes offers plenty of space to expand into. Start over the iron nodes for lower tiers, then migrate out from the canyon and into the open space. Besides, you aren't too far from the dunes, 3 or 4 kilometers, but the spot in the thumbnail is an amazing start spot when you want to go fast. -4 pure iron nodes -2 decent copper nodes nearby -1 hard drive that you will likely run into before you even reach the nodes from your spawn -1 decent limestone nearby and another that's around the hill when you start expanding. -4 decent coal nodes a short distance away, but it's not difficult to run a tractor or belts that distance, and you will likely start buiding into that space as you build up through the tiers. -Nearest bauxite is a run to reach, but it's easy to get to and makes a good prompt to start a train system. -nearest Uranium is way way up, just past the coal. Since it's Uranium you'll be setting up a train network anyway, but the node is out in the open once you reach it's location, no pests to worry about. -Since you'll be running a train up that way anyway, might as well use all the space up there, or somewhere on the way, for your nuclear stations. -Nitrogen is not far from the Uranium, a bit further out, but still decent. I'm unsure how long this will all be relevant, but for now, it's still pretty handy.
theres 2 oilfields fairly close to the dune desert. not hard at all to just drag a power line over there and couple of pipelines back, so even thats not really that much of a downside. dune desert is def my favorite starting location because everything you mention. if you start build close to the oasis, theres even more biomass then you ever need
Rocky Desert is my favorite starting location. I got so much wood off the ground there, that I don't bother getting a chainsaw before getting to coal power. Hoping it's still that way in 1.0. To me, the starter base exists to rush through the early game to unlock coal power. After unlocking coal power, I slow down and start building more organized permanent setups.
Same, on both accounts. Rocky desert is one of my favorite locations in the game and I tend to bum rush coal and tear down whatever I’ve built once it’s unlocked
Same here. Other than the very first time I started a playthrough and a couple attempts at playing with friends. Rocky Desert was always my starting location of choice. It strikes the best balance between decent ore purity and flat terrain to build on. Think I started there at least 4 times playing alone. For 1.0 I'll probably start in the Grasslands mainly because I've gotten kind of bored of seeing the same terrain over and over again.
Oh, you think the impure node is your ally. But you merely adopted the impurity; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see pure nodes until I was using mk2s, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING! -this guy probably
@@kellandxue3315 lol. Well my first few saves were with the 3 normal nodes by the green gas rock. I also think purity is somewhat overrated, sometimes an impure node is exactly what you need.
@@marcbennett9232 Yeah I just like to meme on the grassland sometimes. Starting off with normal nodes is perfectly fine. Not a huge fan of impure nodes though since the power efficiency is just way too low.
@@kellandxue3315 well I build multiple factories, so I depends on what I need. If I only need what an impure node provides, then I look for an impure node.
The Rocky Desert has been a pain to deal with until you get coal power, and setting it up all the way in the bamboo forest was it's biggest downside. Now, with the pure nodes and the coal right on the coast (no more jamming water extractors into small rivers in the bamboo forest), in addition to all the flat land, it's an easy best. Still probably gonna start in the grass fields though just cuz I like plains-style biomes.
@@TotalXclipse nothing planned for those yet but maybe train those out to fuel gens for compacted coal? undecided... but that is the step after steel... fuel at the gold coast and possibly alu there too... not sure I go nuts and haul all alu to one location... attempted that before and it is a huge undertaking (unless you are BLAndrew) LUL...
To the video topic: Given the current changes we know now and also not knowing the story related resources (SAM ore / collectables), I think the Rocky Desert/Savannah is the best starter location for most players as well. Flat terrain, buff to coal with additional advanced resources, and quick access to other biomes, makes it a great corner to create a starter or mega factory. Note: I'm sharing the below as a different perspective on how to tackle the early game because sometimes the "worst" starter location can be the best for your use case. Rocky Desert was my first location in my first playthrough (mega factory), so I have fond memories. I personally decided to start in the Northern Forest in 1.0 because its not a perfect location. My plan is to get through the early tiers (Unlock Oil) in the Northern Forest and then transition to the West coast (Rocky Desert -> Grassy Fields) for my first real builds using nice designs (having unlocked needed items). While I work on my auto storage facility in the grassy plains, I'll have access to the crater lakes, NW rocky desert coal, and the coal location north of the grassy plains for three coal plants (at least 1 including compacted coal). Then use the gold coast for fuel and turbo fuel power (packaged also). My first nuclear build (12 reactors) will then be in the rocky desert using the remaining rocky desert and savannah resources. I can't wait for 1.0
Love you man. 1,300 hours in the game and could easily have doubled it but I paid for other games as well. Love your videos and they have helped me although I suspect you might be playing in the future (version 100 in 2055) as I can never replicate any of your designs and ideas. But it is inspirational!!
Rocky Desert looks promising~ Being able to get as far as oil before sprawling is basically the definition of a perfect starter base. The big problem I've seen with 1.0 starter location videos are the sheer number of people who include basically the whole south of the map as your 'starter' location when talking about the grassy fields. So I very much appreciate this video being "this easily accessible corner of a biome". Because realistically, you do not want to be crossing an entire biome pre logistics.
I rather like starting in a place with more impure nodes rather than pure ones. Use the better nodes only when the tech is right and I can build a proper factory to use them.
I've just started a speed run playthrough there as a test for 1.0 and even as it is it's still a great place to work in, you've got everything you need to get to nuclear power just within a few km of the general starting area and so far I have made it to aluminium without having to venture all that far from the rocky desert itself. I've got a plan for a nuclear plant using the 1 impure uranium node and the surrounding items to get myself about 30,000 MW of power which should be just enough to automate everything I need for the phase 4 space elevator parts and again, I generally haven't gone much farther than the rocky desert aside from a few adventures on the northern and western coast for some additional resources like oil and power slugs
coincidentally, I just finished a playthrough where I started here. very easy to get around, plenty of resources. but easily my least favorite playthrough. this game has the most beautiful map design, and this location.. it's literally the only part of the map I don't find pretty. however. I did finally explore that massive vertical cave near the oil here. incredible place for a factory. probably the coolest factory I've ever built.
I would love to watch a video analyzing all the starting locations, from the ground up. All the close nodes, which ones are on the next layer outward, hard drive locations, terrain both flat and fun to explore/build around, etc. :D
Great choice! I have 75 hr save I started there. Even with coal beign at the border with northern forest ( 5 nodes) theres no problem enough coal for 18 foundries and 24 coal plants. Even if you have to use trucksits no problem. With coal on the coast its going to be a breeze. Only sulfur development is crippled. Oh and oil is very close compared to other locations. 4 nodes at the archipelago. Great video.
I really like the SE of the rock desert, near the lake at the bottom of the 3 pure coal nodes on the crater plateau. The location has lot of iron (3 pure nodes) and all other essentials. and for later game nearly everything is withing reasonable distances.
My thought is still the same. The south west section of the map is the more ideal location. Mainly starting in the oasis creator like area. It's water, with the 4 coal nodes just north of it. It also has limestone, iron and copper right along the west edge. Everything a newbi needs. With a short run north you come across the two pure quartz nodes plus all the caterium along the west cost that will now be even closer with the yeet, or moving of the one node. The oasis is where I set up my first coal power at and then expand out into the world from there. The waterfall near paradise island is still a nice spot for a caterium plant, bringing in the outside nodes and using the one at the falls and it leads to the west cost oil thats a nice intro to oil works. To me that whole area is just good for newbis as it offers a little of what you need without overwhelming giving you a lot to work with.
New player here. After getting to Tier 3 in the grassy fields. I decided to move my base somewhere else and ended up in exactly the same location you're suggesting here. I'm happy to know I chose well.
Definitely interested in a rundown of starter locations. Even if they're not in a 'starter' biome, as long as they're not super rough to get to. The old northern forest was worth the hike, and I'm sure there'll be a couple of spots in 1.0 that will have that same general feel. Worth it to delay just immediately building, and to look around for more convenient resources for a starter base.
Rocky Desert is my favorite start location. Glad to see it getting some love, and that new coal to the west will certainly make early game much simpler.
There's two pure coal nodes in Grass fields, more than sufficient to see the player through Tiers 3 & 4, especially if you use the Solid Steel ingot steel Alt and the hole just North of the Grassfields with the lake and the 4 normal coal nodes is an excellent spot for a coal power plant that will see the player well into Tier's 5 & 6.
I'm thinking about starting in the Blue Crater because not only is it such an interesting area but its one of the regions i've explored the least. And looking at all the ore changes, I'm suspecting that 1.0 will bring additional starting zones and the Blue Crater will be one of them.
The blue crater/southern forest area are great for resources right now, it's just the sheer numbers of spiders and the freaky ambiance is the main downside, but if you can stomach those it's great
As i see it. The grassy fields are great if you want to build a sprawling, bustling industrial hub within your starting biome. But if you want to leverage the new Dimensional Depots and get a factory set up primarily to start building facilities over the world. There is no better point to me than the dense rocky desert and its natural roads towards other biomes.
The grass fields are still good, you have enough coal to get things going and start some steel production. Once you start getting close to power limits head to the coast in a truck and build your fuel generators, and from there you should have enough power to expand fairly easily.
I dunno my reasons for starting are more based on what the ideal way to experience the new story is. Like for example my first play through in the grass start it seemed like the terrain and location of progression spoke to me. For example the iron and stone were super close, then as a test the coal is in a spot where you need to fly or jump which is a mini progression puzzle built into the terrain and placement of the most started in spot. Not every biome has that setup. It’s not much but it’s an element, what if other story stuff has similar basis. I want to be on the most default story setup for that reason. Another thing I thought about is having it be in a new spot for a new change up so I don’t know the nodes and can find a new layout but what if the unknown (I don’t look stuff up) isn’t as ideal as the grassland. Maybe weird node distances. In the end It’ll be about the machines anyways. Then u thought about seeing a new biome for aesthetic difference but nothing looks as calming as the green fields. I dunno, resource nodes are kinda not the reason I’m considering since they are just gonna come in from various distances anyways.
Grassy Fields because it has been 5 years since I last started there (or even seen that half of the map). It is also the furthest from the other starts, both Deserts end up with me expanding into the Northern Forest.
NW Oasis in Dune Desert is the best. Coal and water, Caterium, Sulfur and Quartz nearby. All the flora and fauna you need for research. Easy crash sites. And tons of build space.
Well argued. I'm honestly torn as I started in the Grassy Fields back when the game first premiered on Epic and it's where I fell in love with the game. Nostalgia draws me back, especially with the "improvements" made. But Northwest is the new Northern Forest...
I'd enjoy a look at various start locations. I have a bit of trouble visualizing from terrain maps, but does the 4 Pure Iron nodes spot in the N Forest remain unchanged and is it still viable? Thanks for all your great vids.
This is actually where I chose to build my second save base, which now I'm leaving into 1.0. I really don't feel like restarting a third time and I had to redo a couple nodes here and there. (I can't believe they stole my quartz!) It's been kind of a weird but fun experience seeing what ends up breaking because they moved a node somewhere.
Hey total ! I'm super interested in the opinion of an expert on the best starting location that is "unusual". So as soon as you spawn you move and settle eslewhere. Preferably near the middle of the map for ease of access. A video on different spawn locations would be fun for returning players like me ! Thank you so much ! Love the content :)
I'd already decided to start my 1.0 game in the rocky desert area, my first play I started in the grass fields (I'm pretty sure the game tells you that's for new players), the second playthrough I started in the Northern forest, and in neither of these playthroughs have I expanded much into the Rocky Desert area.
Seeing as though I'm still very new to the game, I'm just going to start wherever it plops me down. I also enjoy the challenge of exploring and finding ways to get around on foot long before building anything substantial.
Yea.. gonna need an updated one prior to launch! It sounds cheesy, but very helpful for someone that doesn't have tons of hours to dedicate per week to start in a location with everything we need to get started to reduce the friction of early game travel needs.
I already decided before the node changes that I was probably going to build somewhere on the western half of the map first, as I've had most of my saves start in the east, so hearing that the northwest desert is going to be the best place to start solidified my choice
I will probably start in rocky desert. It was the first place I started in update 7 on a couple saves, then I did dune desert in update 8. Now with all the skills and knowledge I have for 1.0 I can return back to rocky desert and do everything better.
A Video on how to use SCIM would be great. Not a single tutorial out there, that shows how to copy larger prexisting factories into a new save or massdelete factories and reset stuff like milestones, slugs, drop pods etc. This is more important than ever. A lot of people wanna restart from scratch but still copy some of their previous work into a new one, instead of redoing every little thing.
I will start in the crater north of the grassy fields and build a round central building. I wont focus on efficiency but fun. Lets play the game as it was intended!
Aside from me constantly reminding myself to build BIG, I also continually speed up until I realize I'm rushing, and, as you stated, this game is about fun. Who cares how long something takes. Am I relaxing and enjoying myself is what's important.
I'm probably going northern forest but instead of going west, I'm gonna go east, where there's 6 pure iron nodes. You still have some sulfur, caterium and quartz relatively nearby.
I think all in all the dune desert didn't change much but the other starting locations got better, and other options that require some walking are still interesting, except for the poor nexus that has been greatly nerfed. Honestly I have no idea on where to start a new save for 1.0.
Ty for another amazing video! Watching this I noticed a problem I am running into on my low end laptop. Somehow stuff moving on belts have a trail of particles moving along. What is this issue.
Mostly likely back to my old starting location in 1.0 it seems. Before finding about the cliffside location, I had several base starts in the region/area you are recommending. Haven't started there for some time, should be interesting to try with the changes.
Spire Coast it is. I just want to try something new and all base resources will be added in 1.0 in this area. Besides coal and oil, all other resources are far away, but it's like the grass field. Expand and do the logistics.
I always start off the west coast in the dangle spires (around -175, 165) and that always keeps me going until around Tier 7, but after 1.0 hits i'm definitely tempted to move to the new starter location
Ima miss my old save, been through a lot on it I prob tore down everything in my world and redid it like 3 times but I like how it looks now. This is my tism game
@@Shywer yeah that’s prob what ima do we are so close to the release date I can’t wait I’ve been holding on playing satisfactory since the release date was announced
The northwest rocky beach are from my game play has all but sulfur nodes the waterfall area 3iron,1copper,3limestone at the bottom area the top of the water falls 2coal, 1Sam take the cave to the east you will find 2quartz & 2coal and pure water nods lastly oil along the cost. Their is other nodes I didn’t mention the lack of sulfur and catirium is the problem but I definitely like the area to start
Ive not put as much time into the game as others. One save i started in the grasslands because I didnt do any research and wanted to discover the game as i played. Never got to setting up nuclear power. I do want to start in a diff place for 1.0. i was thinking of the north desert because its sort of near the oil fields. I may well start in that north west corner now!
I think you can start pretty much anywhere. Just run there at the beginning. I might try starting in the shroomy area in the southeast. It has resources and it's already ugly so I won't be making it much uglier with my starter factory. Then I can make prettier factories as I branch out with higher level building resources. Creepy crawlies could be an issue there, it has a few and is not as safe as some other areas, but I think it will be manageable.
You can, but be warned of all the creatures that will try to kill you, it would suck to almost get there and then have to respawn back in the start area
@@TotalXclipse I made it and got my hub set up without dying, then discovered the character will respawn at the hub when I had a run in with a giant hog (more like he ran into me heh). So all is well once you get the hub up. It's worked out pretty well overall despite a couple of deaths. I'm up to tier 6 now and I've never left the area, but intend to branch out soon now that I have train tech. To give you an idea of my build scale so far, I currently produce 850 MW (8 coal, 1 fuel).
The removal of that one coal node and the 2 quartz nodes and the caterium node at the perfect start location I use is of no consequence, even if they removed the limestone deposit on the pillar, it will make little difference to me. My coal, steel, and initial power is usually produced across the waterway down hill from that location, there's a limestone deposit there as well and several coal and iron nodes and a copper. It's also a good starting location. So I'll have to travel a bit for caterium and quartz, that's fine, there's plenty of locations for those in the early region. Oil is the only thing that matters overall and they messed up that one cove nearby and removed a node so now I have to travel a bit more and use more pumps to do the same stuff.
I really wanted to get stuck into a new playthrough but since I heard about the changes im really not sure about starting out. If I do decide to start a new run before the 1.0 release, will it basically be pointless? Really didnt want to wait for soooo long to keep playing.
You'll miss out on story stuff if you continue your existing save, so it depends how important that is to you. (you may also have to source new resources if you use any of the few nodes getting removed/purity changed in the update)
Video's must have a certain length apparently, we understand it's not easy for youtubers. But this guy is overdoing it: Video starts at 6:05. You are welcome.
diffrent opinion. until u want to go for fule or specific turbofule production u dont really need sulfur. expect for maybe some nobelisks. and for that even an impure node is more than enought.
Gonna start (again ) in the dune desert and rush alternate recipie with steel ingots just making real quick coal power and again rush turbofuel power on west in the canyon with a single train, then we see what we can do probably making a second base deep south near azote and uranium
I find it cute how your video description is longer than an essay trying to squeeze extra buck but cant be arsed to give a link to the map tool you used in the video and talk about.
Will there be an option to copy larger factories from old saves with 1.0? I perfected my coal power factories and nearly put a hundred hours into them. I would love to copy them into my new save instead of wasting time for this again.
Grassy fields because i want to look at the waterfall and it has the legs to build an upper body for a big robot holding the space elevator in his hand.
my start will grassfields or the forest. the closer to the centre of the map the bettter. that is because it wil cut down travel times across the entire map in the endgame. because you need nitrogen gas, quarts and sam ore. the rocky desert would be my last choice to start sins there ar no doggo's and berries there. something you will need if yo want to go a global giga factory. also the harddrives in the rocky desert are not very good. the resources that spawn around the crashsites is what will boost you pas tier 1 to 4. it is not just about the resources.
There is a nice See in the Titan Forest (150,0) with Starternodes around. But how hard is it with the animals there? Can you Start there or you die every 5 seconds?
So now that the release is here, have you determined what you would favor for your starting location? Have you had a chance to explore those new node locations and such and determined how feasible they are?
Where do you want to start come 1.0?
Probably wherever Joe decides to start
considering like 99.9% of content creators seem to either start in the grasslands or the desert... and since my only play through so far has been on the grasslands...
i was really thinking of starting in the northern forest.... for a change... though you mentioning about going through non-starting zones made me wonder if there would a viable starting location in the titan forest... but also made me curious if a generally dangerous option would be good also if i chose to place all creatures to passive mode instead of being aggressive....
From the beginning.
Toss up between rocky desert and grassy field.
I'll be starting in the Dune Desert. It has a ton of iron, plenty of coal, water, limestone, quartz and caterium for the early game. Oil is not far away just through the Desert Canyons.
I will still start in the Dunes. In my opinion, it is the best place to start for people who have played this game before. The amount of space and resources is insane. The biggest downside being lack of oil, and the sand dunes. I always end up having my factories fairly high up because of the dunes.
I feel like the dune desert is a worse grassy fields. It's a lot easier to expand from grassy, imo, you have pretty much flat and easy roads to the western side of the map with a huge ocean and plenty of oil, and it also has the 2 lakes with plenty of coal for coal power early on (blue crater and that one small lake north of grassy fields)
No oil in the desert is unrealistic. Looking at you USA
I feel like the area between the coal and the 4 pure iron nodes offers plenty of space to expand into. Start over the iron nodes for lower tiers, then migrate out from the canyon and into the open space. Besides, you aren't too far from the dunes, 3 or 4 kilometers, but the spot in the thumbnail is an amazing start spot when you want to go fast.
-4 pure iron nodes
-2 decent copper nodes nearby
-1 hard drive that you will likely run into before you even reach the nodes from your spawn
-1 decent limestone nearby and another that's around the hill when you start expanding.
-4 decent coal nodes a short distance away, but it's not difficult to run a tractor or belts that distance, and you will likely start buiding into that space as you build up through the tiers.
-Nearest bauxite is a run to reach, but it's easy to get to and makes a good prompt to start a train system.
-nearest Uranium is way way up, just past the coal. Since it's Uranium you'll be setting up a train network anyway, but the node is out in the open once you reach it's location, no pests to worry about.
-Since you'll be running a train up that way anyway, might as well use all the space up there, or somewhere on the way, for your nuclear stations.
-Nitrogen is not far from the Uranium, a bit further out, but still decent.
I'm unsure how long this will all be relevant, but for now, it's still pretty handy.
I will keep the Dunes free for a midgame huge project.
It'll be good to have a nice construction material industry somewhere else.
theres 2 oilfields fairly close to the dune desert. not hard at all to just drag a power line over there and couple of pipelines back, so even thats not really that much of a downside. dune desert is def my favorite starting location because everything you mention. if you start build close to the oasis, theres even more biomass then you ever need
Rocky Desert is my favorite starting location. I got so much wood off the ground there, that I don't bother getting a chainsaw before getting to coal power. Hoping it's still that way in 1.0. To me, the starter base exists to rush through the early game to unlock coal power. After unlocking coal power, I slow down and start building more organized permanent setups.
Same, on both accounts. Rocky desert is one of my favorite locations in the game and I tend to bum rush coal and tear down whatever I’ve built once it’s unlocked
Same here. Other than the very first time I started a playthrough and a couple attempts at playing with friends. Rocky Desert was always my starting location of choice. It strikes the best balance between decent ore purity and flat terrain to build on. Think I started there at least 4 times playing alone. For 1.0 I'll probably start in the Grasslands mainly because I've gotten kind of bored of seeing the same terrain over and over again.
Same!
I decided before the node changes were announced, that I was going to start in the grassy fields. mostly for nostalgia reasons.
Oh, you think the impure node is your ally. But you merely adopted the impurity; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see pure nodes until I was using mk2s, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!
-this guy probably
@@kellandxue3315 lol. Well my first few saves were with the 3 normal nodes by the green gas rock. I also think purity is somewhat overrated, sometimes an impure node is exactly what you need.
@@marcbennett9232 Yeah I just like to meme on the grassland sometimes. Starting off with normal nodes is perfectly fine.
Not a huge fan of impure nodes though since the power efficiency is just way too low.
@@kellandxue3315 well I build multiple factories, so I depends on what I need. If I only need what an impure node provides, then I look for an impure node.
Same! I want to jump in like it was my first time and go from there.
The Rocky Desert has been a pain to deal with until you get coal power, and setting it up all the way in the bamboo forest was it's biggest downside. Now, with the pure nodes and the coal right on the coast (no more jamming water extractors into small rivers in the bamboo forest), in addition to all the flat land, it's an easy best. Still probably gonna start in the grass fields though just cuz I like plains-style biomes.
Right from the start up the Mountains are 3 coal nodes by the craters🙄
there are 3 great coal nodes just up the ramp from rocky desert with lovely crater lakes with plenty water?
What about the four coal nodes in the river oestry?
@@TotalXclipse nothing planned for those yet but maybe train those out to fuel gens for compacted coal? undecided... but that is the step after steel... fuel at the gold coast and possibly alu there too... not sure I go nuts and haul all alu to one location... attempted that before and it is a huge undertaking (unless you are BLAndrew) LUL...
The rocky desert is my favorite starting spot, period, and I was already planning to pick it for 1.0.
Definitely gonna start in the grass fields, itll be nice to spawn where i first started for the 1.0 save
To the video topic: Given the current changes we know now and also not knowing the story related resources (SAM ore / collectables), I think the Rocky Desert/Savannah is the best starter location for most players as well. Flat terrain, buff to coal with additional advanced resources, and quick access to other biomes, makes it a great corner to create a starter or mega factory.
Note: I'm sharing the below as a different perspective on how to tackle the early game because sometimes the "worst" starter location can be the best for your use case.
Rocky Desert was my first location in my first playthrough (mega factory), so I have fond memories. I personally decided to start in the Northern Forest in 1.0 because its not a perfect location. My plan is to get through the early tiers (Unlock Oil) in the Northern Forest and then transition to the West coast (Rocky Desert -> Grassy Fields) for my first real builds using nice designs (having unlocked needed items). While I work on my auto storage facility in the grassy plains, I'll have access to the crater lakes, NW rocky desert coal, and the coal location north of the grassy plains for three coal plants (at least 1 including compacted coal). Then use the gold coast for fuel and turbo fuel power (packaged also). My first nuclear build (12 reactors) will then be in the rocky desert using the remaining rocky desert and savannah resources.
I can't wait for 1.0
Love you man. 1,300 hours in the game and could easily have doubled it but I paid for other games as well. Love your videos and they have helped me although I suspect you might be playing in the future (version 100 in 2055) as I can never replicate any of your designs and ideas. But it is inspirational!!
Dunes 1000% Always regret starting anywhere else to the point of restarting.
With quartz being more available in the grassy fields now, I feel like its become much more viable for 1.0, especially with the new train changes.
Please stop it with the 1.0 😅 its hard enough waiting for it!
oh, yeah :D
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the guys' gotta pay rent :)
But I'm addicted to the 1.0 😅
@@TotalXclipse I'm just sad it isn't out yet, got surgery last Tuesday i got time to waste NOW! 😅
Rocky Desert looks promising~ Being able to get as far as oil before sprawling is basically the definition of a perfect starter base.
The big problem I've seen with 1.0 starter location videos are the sheer number of people who include basically the whole south of the map as your 'starter' location when talking about the grassy fields.
So I very much appreciate this video being "this easily accessible corner of a biome". Because realistically, you do not want to be crossing an entire biome pre logistics.
I rather like starting in a place with more impure nodes rather than pure ones. Use the better nodes only when the tech is right and I can build a proper factory to use them.
i like that because there's less pressure to rebuild on impure nodes, with all the pure nodes to capitalize on.
I've just started a speed run playthrough there as a test for 1.0 and even as it is it's still a great place to work in, you've got everything you need to get to nuclear power just within a few km of the general starting area and so far I have made it to aluminium without having to venture all that far from the rocky desert itself.
I've got a plan for a nuclear plant using the 1 impure uranium node and the surrounding items to get myself about 30,000 MW of power which should be just enough to automate everything I need for the phase 4 space elevator parts and again, I generally haven't gone much farther than the rocky desert aside from a few adventures on the northern and western coast for some additional resources like oil and power slugs
coincidentally, I just finished a playthrough where I started here. very easy to get around, plenty of resources. but easily my least favorite playthrough. this game has the most beautiful map design, and this location.. it's literally the only part of the map I don't find pretty. however. I did finally explore that massive vertical cave near the oil here. incredible place for a factory. probably the coolest factory I've ever built.
Yeh, the filter makes the area a little bland unfortunately :(
when 1.0 drops you should go back to all those speculation videos and see how much you got right
Could be a laugh! :)
I would love to watch a video analyzing all the starting locations, from the ground up. All the close nodes, which ones are on the next layer outward, hard drive locations, terrain both flat and fun to explore/build around, etc. :D
Great choice! I have 75 hr save I started there. Even with coal beign at the border with northern forest ( 5 nodes) theres no problem enough coal for 18 foundries and 24 coal plants. Even if you have to use trucksits no problem. With coal on the coast its going to be a breeze. Only sulfur development is crippled. Oh and oil is very close compared to other locations. 4 nodes at the archipelago. Great video.
I really like the SE of the rock desert, near the lake at the bottom of the 3 pure coal nodes on the crater plateau.
The location has lot of iron (3 pure nodes) and all other essentials. and for later game nearly everything is withing reasonable distances.
My thought is still the same. The south west section of the map is the more ideal location. Mainly starting in the oasis creator like area. It's water, with the 4 coal nodes just north of it. It also has limestone, iron and copper right along the west edge. Everything a newbi needs. With a short run north you come across the two pure quartz nodes plus all the caterium along the west cost that will now be even closer with the yeet, or moving of the one node. The oasis is where I set up my first coal power at and then expand out into the world from there. The waterfall near paradise island is still a nice spot for a caterium plant, bringing in the outside nodes and using the one at the falls and it leads to the west cost oil thats a nice intro to oil works. To me that whole area is just good for newbis as it offers a little of what you need without overwhelming giving you a lot to work with.
8:19 Please do! I often find myself venturing from starting areas to find better starting spots
New player here. After getting to Tier 3 in the grassy fields. I decided to move my base somewhere else and ended up in exactly the same location you're suggesting here. I'm happy to know I chose well.
Definitely interested in a rundown of starter locations. Even if they're not in a 'starter' biome, as long as they're not super rough to get to. The old northern forest was worth the hike, and I'm sure there'll be a couple of spots in 1.0 that will have that same general feel. Worth it to delay just immediately building, and to look around for more convenient resources for a starter base.
Rocky Desert is my favorite start location. Glad to see it getting some love, and that new coal to the west will certainly make early game much simpler.
Grasslands for me cause it's the closest Starting Point to where I like to place my Real Base when I get strong enough to start building it.
Real, every save ive wanted to build a massive base there but dont manage to because of how far away it is lmao
There's two pure coal nodes in Grass fields, more than sufficient to see the player through Tiers 3 & 4, especially if you use the Solid Steel ingot steel Alt and the hole just North of the Grassfields with the lake and the 4 normal coal nodes is an excellent spot for a coal power plant that will see the player well into Tier's 5 & 6.
I'm thinking about starting in the Blue Crater because not only is it such an interesting area but its one of the regions i've explored the least. And looking at all the ore changes, I'm suspecting that 1.0 will bring additional starting zones and the Blue Crater will be one of them.
Pretty sure on one of the q&a dev streams they said no new starting zones. (not saying you couldn't head over there to start of course)
Love that ! I might actually do the same for my 1.0 playthrough TY!
The blue crater/southern forest area are great for resources right now, it's just the sheer numbers of spiders and the freaky ambiance is the main downside, but if you can stomach those it's great
As i see it. The grassy fields are great if you want to build a sprawling, bustling industrial hub within your starting biome. But if you want to leverage the new Dimensional Depots and get a factory set up primarily to start building facilities over the world. There is no better point to me than the dense rocky desert and its natural roads towards other biomes.
The grass fields are still good, you have enough coal to get things going and start some steel production. Once you start getting close to power limits head to the coast in a truck and build your fuel generators, and from there you should have enough power to expand fairly easily.
Its waiting about information whats happening to the rest of the nodes.
I dunno my reasons for starting are more based on what the ideal way to experience the new story is. Like for example my first play through in the grass start it seemed like the terrain and location of progression spoke to me. For example the iron and stone were super close, then as a test the coal is in a spot where you need to fly or jump which is a mini progression puzzle built into the terrain and placement of the most started in spot. Not every biome has that setup. It’s not much but it’s an element, what if other story stuff has similar basis. I want to be on the most default story setup for that reason. Another thing I thought about is having it be in a new spot for a new change up so I don’t know the nodes and can find a new layout but what if the unknown (I don’t look stuff up) isn’t as ideal as the grassland. Maybe weird node distances. In the end It’ll be about the machines anyways. Then u thought about seeing a new biome for aesthetic difference but nothing looks as calming as the green fields. I dunno, resource nodes are kinda not the reason I’m considering since they are just gonna come in from various distances anyways.
Grassy Fields because it has been 5 years since I last started there (or even seen that half of the map). It is also the furthest from the other starts, both Deserts end up with me expanding into the Northern Forest.
NW Oasis in Dune Desert is the best. Coal and water, Caterium, Sulfur and Quartz nearby. All the flora and fauna you need for research. Easy crash sites. And tons of build space.
Well argued. I'm honestly torn as I started in the Grassy Fields back when the game first premiered on Epic and it's where I fell in love with the game. Nostalgia draws me back, especially with the "improvements" made. But Northwest is the new Northern Forest...
I'd enjoy a look at various start locations. I have a bit of trouble visualizing from terrain maps, but does the 4 Pure Iron nodes spot in the N Forest remain unchanged and is it still viable? Thanks for all your great vids.
I think the forest is still a great spot, but it's lack of space is a big turn off for many players
This is actually where I chose to build my second save base, which now I'm leaving into 1.0.
I really don't feel like restarting a third time and I had to redo a couple nodes here and there. (I can't believe they stole my quartz!)
It's been kind of a weird but fun experience seeing what ends up breaking because they moved a node somewhere.
Hey total ! I'm super interested in the opinion of an expert on the best starting location that is "unusual". So as soon as you spawn you move and settle eslewhere. Preferably near the middle of the map for ease of access. A video on different spawn locations would be fun for returning players like me !
Thank you so much ! Love the content :)
I always start in the Grassy Fields so this is very convenient 😁😁
I'd already decided to start my 1.0 game in the rocky desert area, my first play I started in the grass fields (I'm pretty sure the game tells you that's for new players), the second playthrough I started in the Northern forest, and in neither of these playthroughs have I expanded much into the Rocky Desert area.
Seeing as though I'm still very new to the game, I'm just going to start wherever it plops me down.
I also enjoy the challenge of exploring and finding ways to get around on foot long before building anything substantial.
I will be starting in the grass plains. It is perfect!
Its the best one ! I might start there for my 1.0 playthrough TY!
Yea.. gonna need an updated one prior to launch! It sounds cheesy, but very helpful for someone that doesn't have tons of hours to dedicate per week to start in a location with everything we need to get started to reduce the friction of early game travel needs.
The only start location is the main menu! 🤭
Still, anticipation is a very fun stage of a game.
I've reset a bunch, and Dune Desert is where I tend to make it the furthest on a reset. That's where I will likely be starting.
Rocky Desert was my favorite start location for quite some time, even before the changes.
I already decided before the node changes that I was probably going to build somewhere on the western half of the map first, as I've had most of my saves start in the east, so hearing that the northwest desert is going to be the best place to start solidified my choice
I will probably start in rocky desert. It was the first place I started in update 7 on a couple saves, then I did dune desert in update 8. Now with all the skills and knowledge I have for 1.0 I can return back to rocky desert and do everything better.
My home is in the grassy fields. All my homies like grassy fields.
Same lol ! 🤣
A Video on how to use SCIM would be great. Not a single tutorial out there, that shows how to copy larger prexisting factories into a new save or massdelete factories and reset stuff like milestones, slugs, drop pods etc.
This is more important than ever. A lot of people wanna restart from scratch but still copy some of their previous work into a new one, instead of redoing every little thing.
Definitely looking forward to a vanilla 1.0 game.
Finally right ?! 😅
A video on best third party tools for Satisfactory would be great too!
I will start in the crater north of the grassy fields and build a round central building. I wont focus on efficiency but fun. Lets play the game as it was intended!
Aside from me constantly reminding myself to build BIG, I also continually speed up until I realize I'm rushing, and, as you stated, this game is about fun.
Who cares how long something takes. Am I relaxing and enjoying myself is what's important.
I'm probably going northern forest but instead of going west, I'm gonna go east, where there's 6 pure iron nodes. You still have some sulfur, caterium and quartz relatively nearby.
I would totally appreciate a video like that.
In addition to your ideal locations, could you go over what precisely makes a "perfect start"?
I think all in all the dune desert didn't change much but the other starting locations got better, and other options that require some walking are still interesting, except for the poor nexus that has been greatly nerfed. Honestly I have no idea on where to start a new save for 1.0.
Rocky desert is aesthetically terrible though, I think they balanced things out with the resources lol
Ty for another amazing video! Watching this I noticed a problem I am running into on my low end laptop. Somehow stuff moving on belts have a trail of particles moving along. What is this issue.
if it looks blurry when items run along I think that's the UE rendering visual glitch
Mostly likely back to my old starting location in 1.0 it seems. Before finding about the cliffside location, I had several base starts in the region/area you are recommending. Haven't started there for some time, should be interesting to try with the changes.
7:46 - If you want the answer without context.
I mean the thumbnail points to the answer if you didn't want the context, saves listening to me droning on at all :D
@@TotalXclipse I did not even notice that. 🙃
Spire Coast it is. I just want to try something new and all base resources will be added in 1.0 in this area. Besides coal and oil, all other resources are far away, but it's like the grass field. Expand and do the logistics.
I always start off the west coast in the dangle spires (around -175, 165) and that always keeps me going until around Tier 7, but after 1.0 hits i'm definitely tempted to move to the new starter location
Ima miss my old save, been through a lot on it I prob tore down everything in my world and redid it like 3 times but I like how it looks now. This is my tism game
agreed
Keep it and login to it in 5 or more years for memories ^^
@@Shywer yeah that’s prob what ima do we are so close to the release date I can’t wait I’ve been holding on playing satisfactory since the release date was announced
Has anybody compiled an updated map yet with all the 1.0 node changes applied to the existing map, at least as near as we can tell?
The northwest rocky beach are from my game play has all but sulfur nodes the waterfall area 3iron,1copper,3limestone at the bottom area the top of the water falls 2coal, 1Sam take the cave to the east you will find 2quartz & 2coal and pure water nods lastly oil along the cost. Their is other nodes I didn’t mention the lack of sulfur and catirium is the problem but I definitely like the area to start
I can add one more to list, the Crust started in early access few weeks ago.
It's DSP/Factorio on the moon
Ive not put as much time into the game as others. One save i started in the grasslands because I didnt do any research and wanted to discover the game as i played. Never got to setting up nuclear power.
I do want to start in a diff place for 1.0. i was thinking of the north desert because its sort of near the oil fields. I may well start in that north west corner now!
I think you can start pretty much anywhere. Just run there at the beginning. I might try starting in the shroomy area in the southeast. It has resources and it's already ugly so I won't be making it much uglier with my starter factory. Then I can make prettier factories as I branch out with higher level building resources. Creepy crawlies could be an issue there, it has a few and is not as safe as some other areas, but I think it will be manageable.
You can, but be warned of all the creatures that will try to kill you, it would suck to almost get there and then have to respawn back in the start area
@@TotalXclipse I made it and got my hub set up without dying, then discovered the character will respawn at the hub when I had a run in with a giant hog (more like he ran into me heh). So all is well once you get the hub up. It's worked out pretty well overall despite a couple of deaths. I'm up to tier 6 now and I've never left the area, but intend to branch out soon now that I have train tech. To give you an idea of my build scale so far, I currently produce 850 MW (8 coal, 1 fuel).
The removal of that one coal node and the 2 quartz nodes and the caterium node at the perfect start location I use is of no consequence, even if they removed the limestone deposit on the pillar, it will make little difference to me. My coal, steel, and initial power is usually produced across the waterway down hill from that location, there's a limestone deposit there as well and several coal and iron nodes and a copper. It's also a good starting location. So I'll have to travel a bit for caterium and quartz, that's fine, there's plenty of locations for those in the early region. Oil is the only thing that matters overall and they messed up that one cove nearby and removed a node so now I have to travel a bit more and use more pumps to do the same stuff.
I really wanted to get stuck into a new playthrough but since I heard about the changes im really not sure about starting out. If I do decide to start a new run before the 1.0 release, will it basically be pointless? Really didnt want to wait for soooo long to keep playing.
You'll miss out on story stuff if you continue your existing save, so it depends how important that is to you. (you may also have to source new resources if you use any of the few nodes getting removed/purity changed in the update)
Video's must have a certain length apparently, we understand it's not easy for youtubers.
But this guy is overdoing it: Video starts at 6:05.
You are welcome.
0:17 thats litterally where my space elevator is
My latest save already uses the Northwest Rocky area, so I guess I'm going back to the Grassy Fields to do something new.
To be fair the Rocky Desert and Dune's a bit "meh" in terms of looks, I do like a bit of greenery
diffrent opinion.
until u want to go for fule or specific turbofule production u dont really need sulfur.
expect for maybe some nobelisks.
and for that even an impure node is more than enought.
Gonna start (again ) in the dune desert and rush alternate recipie with steel ingots just making real quick coal power and again rush turbofuel power on west in the canyon with a single train, then we see what we can do probably making a second base deep south near azote and uranium
I find it cute how your video description is longer than an essay trying to squeeze extra buck but cant be arsed to give a link to the map tool you used in the video and talk about.
I think SAM ore locations will have a big factor for me when I do my 1.0 playthrou.
i will stick to my rocky desert start. its never failed me before.
Will there be an option to copy larger factories from old saves with 1.0? I perfected my coal power factories and nearly put a hundred hours into them. I would love to copy them into my new save instead of wasting time for this again.
I'll be starting in the rocky desert and building over the water to the north.
Since resources are infinite, it completely doesn't matter where you start, unless you speedrun.
depends if you'd like to sit around waiting for hours just to unlock coal power or not. Doesn't necessarily mean speed running, just a healthy jog.
@@TotalXclipse that's not true, I can connect to coal from everywhere in 30min, and any other resource is the same, it is actually fun and challenging
It would be cool if they surprise us with a whole new map!
Grassy fields because i want to look at the waterfall and it has the legs to build an upper body for a big robot holding the space elevator in his hand.
Solid reasons. But will it be enough to tear me away from my beloved Dune Desert? Anyone's guess at this point.
There may be more reasons comes 1.0 :)
Love this !
my start will grassfields or the forest. the closer to the centre of the map the bettter. that is because it wil cut down travel times across the entire map in the endgame. because you need nitrogen gas, quarts and sam ore. the rocky desert would be my last choice to start sins there ar no doggo's and berries there. something you will need if yo want to go a global giga factory. also the harddrives in the rocky desert are not very good. the resources that spawn around the crashsites is what will boost you pas tier 1 to 4. it is not just about the resources.
The forest is what I did for my last but Ill probably try grassy since its been a while for my 1.0 playthrough TY!
You said the lack of sulfur but you must've forgotten the non-existence of Fuel nodes.
Reason to explore but not enough time to PLAY as we have WORK and FAMILIES !!!!
I enjoy the desert
I'll start in the middle
They still have that blurry item bug on the fastest belts? I hate not seeing the items properly as they speed past me on the belts.
There is a nice See in the Titan Forest (150,0) with Starternodes around. But how hard is it with the animals there? Can you Start there or you die every 5 seconds?
You can start with non-aggressive alien settings.
So now that the release is here, have you determined what you would favor for your starting location? Have you had a chance to explore those new node locations and such and determined how feasible they are?
So, what's the post-1-point-oh release opinion now?
Still think we were right with it!
What, the devs want to give us a ‘reason to explore the world ‘for the 50th time again. Nice
definitely please let us know the starter spots etc
Im starting in the swamp for the lulz hahahaha. But probably the dunes, I find the rocky desert and grassy fields a bit too boring.
Is it still valid ?
How to acces that area the fastest ?
wait what I can't see these nodes on my ave. it looks different?
Maybe I'd rather know the *hardest* starting location, for more of a challenge, since we all starting over with knowledge and skills?
Oh that's easy, start in the swamp :D
The hardest?
Don't watch videos like these. Don't use any online tools.
Find everything for yourself.