Thank you for the excellent video Joe. I appreciate the explanation of the parallel setup. That seems to make a lot of sense since one membrane could start to restrict and more would flow thru the others. I imagine the restrictions stay pretty even in this set up. Thanks again... gonna check out your other videos now.
You are welcome! The sap does process a bit slower to finish but the clog rate is slower. In the batch barrel like I do it works well. I did re plumb this to go in series a couple times when I had a long boil and lots of sap, just running the RO concentrate into a 5 gallon and then dumped that into the warming pan. Thanks
Great video Joe. Thanks for breaking this down and showing everything so clearly! I am getting ready to do the same thing here pretty quick. Syrup season is creeping up in me this year, I don't quite feel ready!
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm I hear you. I am trying to come come up with a cool way to preheat. I liked your way with the tubing on the stack. My system is a bit different so I'm trying to modify it. Trying to not lose my boil as much as i have in the past.
@@GagneFarms even if you can’t preheat the sap, to be able to add it slowly, or consistently is way better than those cold 1 gallon pour overs. I’m guessing my sap is only 75 degrees when it makes it into the pan.
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm yes that works so much better. Last year i started warming a pan up on the turkey fryer and dumping it in and that worked so much better!
Thanks Joe.I’m making one of these for this season‘s maple. I only have about 20 trees so it’s not a big organization. How long can my feed line be?can I put it down at my barrel which is about 50 feet from where my RO is going to be will the pump pull that far?
I don’t see any reason that it wouldn’t, these little pumps are pretty amazing. I have installed spigots in the bottom of my barrel to help create a little pressure from the sap weight. I pull through about 15 feet of tube
Good job Joe！Im wondering to know how to build a RO system to trying to concentrate coffee as a batch of sample before giving a recipe to factory make big batches.Thank to you ，now I can do this with your guide video！
Hey great video. Thanks for posting!! Hopefully your sap comes out delicious this year, so fun to make. I have a question... I have been researching what side the permeate vs sap comes out of. (your labels on the housing). I have my system set up just like yours but others day that incorrect? Looking for clarification... Great video !!
Thanks, not certain of what you are asking. Permeate water and concentrated sap will come out the bottom of 1 hole or the other. This is determined by the housing and membrane manufacturers. I just follow their recommendations on this. I do plumb my membranes together in parallel instead of series. This seems to be controversial but meets my needs better
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm thank you for the info. I was asking which hole was the permeate and which hole was a concentrate when plumbed in parallel? I have seen videos in which the lower of the two holes was permeate and some videos where the lower hole was concentrate.
Really good video, covers the basics for even larger units….. I’m curious you you could add a recirculating pump of the concentrate to run a second pass for higher concentration.
Exactly what I do, I send my concentrated sap back into the barrel. I use 30 gallon barrels with brass spigots on the bottom. I recirculate this sap for usually 4-8 hours. With this I have had sap as high as 8%, which honestly is too high, but this system works well for the batch system.
Joe. Great video and demonstration! I am on my third year of maple syruping and adding an RO system like this for the first time. Assembling it right now. I have about 70 taps and hoping this cuts down some boiling time. Not sure just yet how this is all going to work with keeping up with the sap flow vs. a secondary process. Does the RO process need the sap to be above 40 degrees to function properly? Do you have to gravity flow the sap into the pump or can they be at the same level?
I will link a video I made about operation of my RO. The sap flows better as it warms but will still work through the pump at lower temps. I have had ice chips jam up in the tubes, so now when temps get that low, I usually don’t operate it. I left links for the spigot in the video notes. Using the spigot on the bottom of the barrel, the weight of the sap will gain some pressure for you. However, my first year Using this I just ziptied the tubes to some PVC pipes to keep them at the bottom of the barrel. Let me know if you any other questions, and yes if you can time things out you will save a ton of time at the evaporator. How I operate my Maple Sap RO (reverse osmosis) For the Nerds ruclips.net/video/iNstS6I6FVM/видео.html
I honestly couldn’t tell you, I recycle my concentrate back into a batch barrel. I will recirculate this sap for several hours and then start a new batch
I disassemble this system each year to do a thorough cleaning and then to properly store the RO membranes, I will probably redesign this next year to add a 4 membrane
Thank you for the excellent video Joe. I appreciate the explanation of the parallel setup. That seems to make a lot of sense since one membrane could start to restrict and more would flow thru the others. I imagine the restrictions stay pretty even in this set up. Thanks again... gonna check out your other videos now.
You are welcome! The sap does process a bit slower to finish but the clog rate is slower. In the batch barrel like I do it works well. I did re plumb this to go in series a couple times when I had a long boil and lots of sap, just running the RO concentrate into a 5 gallon and then dumped that into the warming pan. Thanks
Great video Joe. Thanks for breaking this down and showing everything so clearly! I am getting ready to do the same thing here pretty quick. Syrup season is creeping up in me this year, I don't quite feel ready!
Eric, I’m not sure anyone is ever completely ready, I had some improvements in the evaporator that I won’t remember until I am in that first boil, ugh
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm I hear you. I am trying to come come up with a cool way to preheat. I liked your way with the tubing on the stack. My system is a bit different so I'm trying to modify it. Trying to not lose my boil as much as i have in the past.
@@GagneFarms even if you can’t preheat the sap, to be able to add it slowly, or consistently is way better than those cold 1 gallon pour overs. I’m guessing my sap is only 75 degrees when it makes it into the pan.
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm yes that works so much better. Last year i started warming a pan up on the turkey fryer and dumping it in and that worked so much better!
Thank you so much. We are setting up our small RO this year and this helps a ton.
Lots of variations, don’t feel like you have to build in any specific way as long as the plumbing is correct
Great video Joe!
Thanks James
Great Video. I am looking forward to the sugaring videos.
Thanks, I’m gearing up and getting them ready to share
Thanks Joe.I’m making one of these for this season‘s maple. I only have about 20 trees so it’s not a big organization.
How long can my feed line be?can I put it down at my barrel which is about 50 feet from where my RO is going to be will the pump pull that far?
I don’t see any reason that it wouldn’t, these little pumps are pretty amazing. I have installed spigots in the bottom of my barrel to help create a little pressure from the sap weight. I pull through about 15 feet of tube
Good job Joe！Im wondering to know how to build a RO system to trying to concentrate coffee as a batch of sample
before giving a recipe to factory make big batches.Thank to you ，now I can do this with your guide video！
Hey great video. Thanks for posting!! Hopefully your sap comes out delicious this year, so fun to make. I have a question... I have been researching what side the permeate vs sap comes out of. (your labels on the housing). I have my system set up just like yours but others day that incorrect? Looking for clarification...
Great video !!
Thanks, not certain of what you are asking. Permeate water and concentrated sap will come out the bottom of 1 hole or the other. This is determined by the housing and membrane manufacturers. I just follow their recommendations on this. I do plumb my membranes together in parallel instead of series. This seems to be controversial but meets my needs better
@@YoungbloodFamilyFarm thank you for the info. I was asking which hole was the permeate and which hole was a concentrate when plumbed in parallel? I have seen videos in which the lower of the two holes was permeate and some videos where the lower hole was concentrate.
Really good video, covers the basics for even larger units….. I’m curious you you could add a recirculating pump of the concentrate to run a second pass for higher concentration.
Exactly what I do, I send my concentrated sap back into the barrel. I use 30 gallon barrels with brass spigots on the bottom. I recirculate this sap for usually 4-8 hours. With this I have had sap as high as 8%, which honestly is too high, but this system works well for the batch system.
Joe. Great video and demonstration! I am on my third year of maple syruping and adding an RO system like this for the first time. Assembling it right now. I have about 70 taps and hoping this cuts down some boiling time. Not sure just yet how this is all going to work with keeping up with the sap flow vs. a secondary process. Does the RO process need the sap to be above 40 degrees to function properly? Do you have to gravity flow the sap into the pump or can they be at the same level?
I will link a video I made about operation of my RO. The sap flows better as it warms but will still work through the pump at lower temps. I have had ice chips jam up in the tubes, so now when temps get that low, I usually don’t operate it. I left links for the spigot in the video notes. Using the spigot on the bottom of the barrel, the weight of the sap will gain some pressure for you. However, my first year Using this I just ziptied the tubes to some PVC pipes to keep them at the bottom of the barrel. Let me know if you any other questions, and yes if you can time things out you will save a ton of time at the evaporator. How I operate my Maple Sap RO (reverse osmosis) For the Nerds
ruclips.net/video/iNstS6I6FVM/видео.html
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How much sap are you putting through your RO per hour?
I honestly couldn’t tell you, I recycle my concentrate back into a batch barrel. I will recirculate this sap for several hours and then start a new batch
Make a carry case for the setup that way there is 1 time setup and no take down.
I disassemble this system each year to do a thorough cleaning and then to properly store the RO membranes, I will probably redesign this next year to add a 4 membrane
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