I just wanted to say I have thoroughly enjoyed this series. I reenact with the 37th Georgia, and although I portray a private, I'm looking forward to purchasing a Navy Colt, to go along with my Enfield rifle. I intend to do some black powder hunting, and this kind of info is invaluable. Thank you. The bushcraft videos are a favorite, as well. Roll Tide!
thank you for the wonderful videos and all the hard work . i was a builder of black powder rifles for 20 years and worked on revolvers. many of the guns were for competition some were used to win national championships. filing a little bit off the barrel is a waste of time. finding the right load and practice will make a good shot.if you are going to change anything have the trigger done by a pro. your shooting will improve greatly.
Thank for tips, never thought about taking a tiny bit off the crown. If you over did it you would just haft to re crown the barrel. I took mine and put dove sights on the front that way I can tap them back and forth.
I used a bore sight to get close at the start and then the "shoot & adjust" method. My Uberti 1858 New Army needed notches on the front sight for reference, even at 10 yards.
I have an 1851 Colt and was told that they were sighted in at 75 yards from the factory. Not sure how true that is but the old Kentucky windage seems to work for me!
i plan on doing a video about it..but the mind set at the time the guns were army issue was aim for the belt buckle..(so 12 or so inch high would be center of mass on soldier)..as the target get further way the buckle would be in the middle of the target..(75 yrds or so )..they did this to get the longest useable point of impact..if the gun was sighted for point of aim for 10 yrds the ball would hit the ground before hitting a man at 100yrds due to the sights being so low
What do I use to shim the hammer with? I'm trying to accurize my original 1860 colt because in Canada we aren't allowed to shoot any handguns that aren't antique on any land other than ranges.
Just to be clear, if the point of impact is to the left, then you are saying I should remove material on the left side to steer the impact to the right?
I have a 1860 uberti 45 Colt replica. I purchased a howellarms 45 l.c cylinder. Now the l.c cylinder doesn't want to turn after I fire. Have to remove the barrel just to get the cylinder to turn. Can you help me?
Blackie, let me let you in on a secrete. Pistol shooting isn't a exact science. I mean sure we can use a bore laser and put a really great set of sights on that old gun. But really it wasn't made for that. A pistol is a side arm a go-to if all else fails. Point and shoot. Like you point your finger. The more you do it the better you get. Its an eye hand coordination thing. That's why your target is center mass. I say don't use those tiny sights at all. Point the barrel like your index finger. Eventually you should be able to shoot from the hip. Eyes on target hand making the gun do what eyes and brain guide it to do. Easier than golf. Harder than pingpong.
Hey buddy please help me I need your help what's a good cap and ball revolver that will stand up for everyday carry.i have the rem bison 44 and it's a little big and I'm not interested in the ruger. I hike with my dogs in bear county. Anything will help but I think you are well educated in this field. Would like to shoot deer and boar.thank you and keep the videos coming.
A right hand shooter will always pull to the left by the application of pressure on the trigger. You can see this dry firing an empty Glock. I suspect the 8" barrel exaggerates this effect. A good gunsmith can dovetail a blade front sight on the barrel which can be drifted correct the problem.
I had a Signature Series 1860 Army that threw balls all over the target. When I looked at it closely I could tell that the cylinder bores would not line up exactly with the barrel when the gun was at full cock. What a mess! I had no clue how to fix it, so I sold it at a gun show. Showed the guy what the gun was doing, but he didn't mind. As long as the hammer struck the cap everything was cool with him.
i had a bright blue with ivory grips 1860 army..that was like that.. it had been picked... i assume.... to be a high polish gun because it would be a lousy shooter... like you i sold it to one more interested in collecting than having a good field revolver..thanks for the post safe journeys
I have a uberti 1860 army revolver cal .44 its mark xxv. It also have. Replica arms inc marietta ohio. It doesn't said black powder anywhere on the gun its that normal? If anyone knows please let me know. Thanks
Does firing roundball hit different than conicals? So if you fine tune your muzzle for round ball, you just live with the difference? Whats more suceptable to muzxle tuning, round ball or conical?
for general shooting i use round ball i use conicals for hunting so i sight my guns in for round ball and then use a mental adjustment for the conical point of impact
Lots of people are confused by sighting in a firearm because they're trying to move their sights to their intended point of impact rather than adjust the sights to the point of impact where their barrel is pointing.
Probably could. Just keep in mind it's cheaper to replace the hammer rather than the barrel if you screw something up. Just deepen the hammer notch if you want to lower elevation. I personally like mine shooting high but again that's personal preference.
@@Hercules1-v9m yes as it is I just use Kentucky windage😁. I like the way the Remington's are built but have to admit the Colt replicas are much easier to shoot and be right on target.
Been wanting to ask you a question. I can't find the video you did on these but will a 1860 or 61 barrel assembly git a 1851 frame? If both are 44 calibre ?
I found that the reason my 1860 shoots to right . well., I discovered it do to the heavy trigger pull, I was pulling the sights off with my finger .because, aiming six inches to the left my ball struck the target dead nuts center every time . to remedy that I took away some metal from the hammer spring , thus lightening the trigger pull and not pulling off my intended target sight. I would myself not widen the rear sight notch , your only asking for trouble, and you will undoubtedly have to replace that hammer. 9 times out of 10 its the shooter causing the the problem .these guns are extremely accurate right from the factory .I know because I own several of them.
I tend to pull to the right on my Colt Walker and 1860 Army-especially the Walker. I’ve wondered if it might be because of the trigger offset in the frame on Colt and repro pistols. I’m right handed.
At 9:00, it starts to go a little confusing. If you are hitting to the left, and you will file material away from the left side(when looking from the muzzle side) will it make the problem even worse then before?
ok looking from the hammer..TOWARDS the muzzle..if you are hitting say to the left..you file on the right side of the hammer sight notch to correct if the gun is hitting way off to the left or right check to make sure muzzle is square so to speak often the muzzle is not..and it is making the ball impact further out ..so lets say the gun hits way left 10 inch or so from point of aim..and you find the muzzle is not square..you should draw file till the muzzle is square to the bore..and then reshoot..if this does not answer your question please tell me..i want to be clear on how to correct the point of aim
@blackie, I am trying to sight in my colt arms repro 1862 pocket police. I cut a notch in rear sight, and shoots dead on at about 10ft (point blank) but I move a few steps back and they are flying way high! doesn't make sense to me unless it's a muzzle-not- square along the vertical. ??
the round ball does fly in a sort of ark..remember i spoke of how the sight and barrel are a a angle..when you post a target say at 10ft..then at 15 20 25 30 the ball is still climbing..around 20 yrs or so depending on several factors the trajectory peaks and begins to drop..remember these guns were sighted to shot as far as possible thus the shooting high from the factory.. i suggest you try placing targets at 10 foot intervs and see at what point the drop happens..this will be your farthest point blank..then you have to add elevation from the rear sight to correct for range for range..hope this helps..if not let me know and i will do a video to hopefully shed more light on it..safe journeys
+blackoracle69 . Thanks for that explanation, that does help. I think one problem is the front sight on this colt is only a tiny gold bead. My notch is still not deep enough, yet the front site is setting on the horizon and will disappear if I cut the rear notch further. have you seen that with colt reproductions? It seems the front site should be taller.
+blackoracle69 aha! it is true. On this page someone has noted the front sights are too low: gunsoftheoldwest.com/2013/03/uberts-1862-police/2/ now I just have to decide what to do about that.
Just wanted to report that I just shot the 1862 after having a professional put a crown....it now shoots accurately and I am able to use your method to sight it in properly. Thanks again.
YES.. often..i will use a file say 2 strokes..shoot.. 2 strokes...when its close i got to the 400..when its there.. then i polish out the finer grits to remove file and sanding marks
You kinda look like a Wal-Mart Version of Billy Bob Thornton. Sorry bro ,I love some of your content and I know it's very time consuming to make them. Thank you for that so forgive my observation.
I just wanted to say I have thoroughly enjoyed this series. I reenact with the 37th Georgia, and although I portray a private, I'm looking forward to purchasing a Navy Colt, to go along with my Enfield rifle. I intend to do some black powder hunting, and this kind of info is invaluable. Thank you. The bushcraft videos are a favorite, as well. Roll Tide!
glad to be of help..safe journeys
I just got started in black powder. I'm so glad I found your videos. Thanks
I'm new to black powder and these videos help so much! Thank you Blackie!
glad you found them of use..safe journeys
Absolutely true here. I got a pietta 1860 and it hits high to the left. Glad you put this out here for us. Helped me out big time
thank you for the wonderful videos and all the hard work . i was a builder of black powder rifles for 20 years and worked on revolvers. many of the guns were for competition some were used to win national championships. filing a little bit off the barrel is a waste of time. finding the right load and practice will make a good shot.if you are going to change anything have the trigger done by a pro. your shooting will improve greatly.
Hate to tell you but Blackie is 💯 correct on filing the end of the barrel to correct the placement of your shot. Iv done it and it did work.
You were easy to understand and it makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
glad you enjoyed i will be posting more in the near future
Thank for tips, never thought about taking a tiny bit off the crown. If you over did it you would just haft to re crown the barrel. I took mine and put dove sights on the front that way I can tap them back and forth.
Getting lessons in multiple subjects with the "Stroke...Shoot!" HAHA this has seriously been helpful
I appreciate you, Blackie.
Keep up the great art work
a lot of' 51 Navy's have little or no break at the end of the rifling. Many will bentfit from crowning the barrel.
I used a bore sight to get close at the start and then the "shoot & adjust" method. My Uberti 1858 New Army needed notches on the front sight for reference, even at 10 yards.
I'm thinking about getting a smoothbore that way it scatters it won't be so complicated thanks for the info Blackie
you did good with art
Thumbs up video Brother!
MY NAVY IS DOING JUST THAT. HIGH TO THE LEFT. AFTER I GET MORE ROUNDS THROUGH IT ILL TRY YOUR ADVICE. THANKS GOOD VID. 🔫 🇺🇸
Nice to know FORS still applies........
I have an 1851 Colt and was told that they were sighted in at 75 yards from the factory. Not sure how true that is but the old Kentucky windage seems to work for me!
i plan on doing a video about it..but the mind set at the time the guns were army issue was aim for the belt buckle..(so 12 or so inch high would be center of mass on soldier)..as the target get further way the buckle would be in the middle of the target..(75 yrds or so )..they did this to get the longest useable point of impact..if the gun was sighted for point of aim for 10 yrds the ball would hit the ground before hitting a man at 100yrds due to the sights being so low
Thank you
Thanks
How about making a video on sighting in the Remington 1858 target model.
Yes I was going to say the same 1958 remi. Please, thank-you.
Good video. Thanks. You Air Force? I see you are rocking the USAF digi blouse. Get some!
What do I use to shim the hammer with? I'm trying to accurize my original 1860 colt because in Canada we aren't allowed to shoot any handguns that aren't antique on any land other than ranges.
'evenin, Blackie; I'm liking this alot Great tips Thanks, Brother. ATB Terry God Bless
Just to be clear, if the point of impact is to the left, then you are saying I should remove material on the left side to steer the impact to the right?
I have a 1860 uberti 45 Colt replica. I purchased a howellarms 45 l.c cylinder. Now the l.c cylinder doesn't want to turn after I fire. Have to remove the barrel just to get the cylinder to turn. Can you help me?
more good info on the subject, thanks. Now if I can just find that shoe rasp
This video explains this good
thanks i got more videos on the way
Blackie, let me let you in on a secrete. Pistol shooting isn't a exact science. I mean sure we can use a bore laser and put a really great set of sights on that old gun. But really it wasn't made for that. A pistol is a side arm a go-to if all else fails. Point and shoot. Like you point your finger. The more you do it the better you get. Its an eye hand coordination thing. That's why your target is center mass.
I say don't use those tiny sights at all. Point the barrel like your index finger. Eventually you should be able to shoot from the hip. Eyes on target hand making the gun do what eyes and brain guide it to do. Easier than golf. Harder than pingpong.
Hey buddy please help me I need your help what's a good cap and ball revolver that will stand up for everyday carry.i have the rem bison 44 and it's a little big and I'm not interested in the ruger. I hike with my dogs in bear county. Anything will help but I think you are well educated in this field. Would like to shoot deer and boar.thank you and keep the videos coming.
New out of the box do all need to be fixed and is the 8 inch better than the 5 .5 new army am looking to buy.
A right hand shooter will always pull to the left by the application of pressure on the trigger. You can see this dry firing an empty Glock. I suspect the 8" barrel exaggerates this effect. A good gunsmith can dovetail a blade front sight on the barrel which can be drifted correct the problem.
I had a Signature Series 1860 Army that threw balls all over the target. When I looked at it closely I could tell that the cylinder bores would not line up exactly with the barrel when the gun was at full cock. What a mess! I had no clue how to fix it, so I sold it at a gun show. Showed the guy what the gun was doing, but he didn't mind. As long as the hammer struck the cap everything was cool with him.
i had a bright blue with ivory grips 1860 army..that was like that.. it had been picked... i assume.... to be a high polish gun because it would be a lousy shooter... like you i sold it to one more interested in collecting than having a good field revolver..thanks for the post safe journeys
Can YOU do a video on replacing a missing front sight on a pietta 1851 44cal
i will see what i can do for ya
Thx you, saved me from buying a new barrel
glad you found it of use..safe journeys
I have a uberti 1860 army revolver cal .44 its mark xxv. It also have. Replica arms inc marietta ohio. It doesn't said black powder anywhere on the gun its that normal? If anyone knows please let me know. Thanks
Does firing roundball hit different than conicals?
So if you fine tune your muzzle for round ball, you just live with the difference?
Whats more suceptable to muzxle tuning, round ball or conical?
for general shooting i use round ball i use conicals for hunting so i sight my guns in for round ball and then use a mental adjustment for the conical point of impact
Lots of people are confused by sighting in a firearm because they're trying to move their sights to their intended point of impact rather than adjust the sights to the point of impact where their barrel is pointing.
Have you ever changed an arbor
man i have a snub nose now thx blackie lol
So I could use this method of sanding the muzzle to partially compensate for elavation?
Probably could. Just keep in mind it's cheaper to replace the hammer rather than the barrel if you screw something up. Just deepen the hammer notch if you want to lower elevation. I personally like mine shooting high but again that's personal preference.
@@Hercules1-v9m yes as it is I just use Kentucky windage😁. I like the way the Remington's are built but have to admit the Colt replicas are much easier to shoot and be right on target.
Been wanting to ask you a question. I can't find the video you did on these but will a 1860 or 61 barrel assembly git a 1851 frame? If both are 44 calibre ?
if the base pins are same size they should..you may need to do some hand fitting but it should be pretty easy
@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thanks Blackie
I found that the reason my 1860 shoots to right . well., I discovered it do to the heavy trigger pull, I was pulling the sights off with my finger .because, aiming six inches to the left my ball struck the target dead nuts center every time . to remedy that I took away some metal from the hammer spring , thus lightening the trigger pull and not pulling off my intended target sight. I would myself not widen the rear sight notch , your only asking for trouble, and you will undoubtedly have to replace that hammer. 9 times out of 10 its the shooter causing the the problem .these guns are extremely accurate right from the factory .I know because I own several of them.
I tend to pull to the right on my Colt Walker and 1860 Army-especially the Walker. I’ve wondered if it might be because of the trigger offset in the frame on Colt and repro pistols. I’m right handed.
At 9:00, it starts to go a little confusing. If you are hitting to the left, and you will file material away from the left side(when looking from the muzzle side) will it make the problem even worse then before?
ok looking from the hammer..TOWARDS the muzzle..if you are hitting say to the left..you file on the right side of the hammer sight notch to correct
if the gun is hitting way off to the left or right check to make sure muzzle is square so to speak often the muzzle is not..and it is making the ball impact further out ..so lets say the gun hits way left 10 inch or so from point of aim..and you find the muzzle is not square..you should draw file till the muzzle is square to the bore..and then reshoot..if this does not answer your question please tell me..i want to be clear on how to correct the point of aim
Thanks blackie, this explains it perfecly. You are making great videos, take care!
@blackie, I am trying to sight in my colt arms repro 1862 pocket police. I cut a notch in rear sight, and shoots dead on at about 10ft (point blank) but I move a few steps back and they are flying way high! doesn't make sense to me unless it's a muzzle-not- square along the vertical. ??
the round ball does fly in a sort of ark..remember i spoke of how the sight and barrel are a a angle..when you post a target say at 10ft..then at 15 20 25 30 the ball is still climbing..around 20 yrs or so depending on several factors the trajectory peaks and begins to drop..remember these guns were sighted to shot as far as possible thus the shooting high from the factory.. i suggest you try placing targets at 10 foot intervs and see at what point the drop happens..this will be your farthest point blank..then you have to add elevation from the rear sight to correct for range for range..hope this helps..if not let me know and i will do a video to hopefully shed more light on it..safe journeys
+blackoracle69 . Thanks for that explanation, that does help. I think one problem is the front sight on this colt is only a tiny gold bead. My notch is still not deep enough, yet the front site is setting on the horizon and will disappear if I cut the rear notch further. have you seen that with colt reproductions? It seems the front site should be taller.
+blackoracle69 aha! it is true. On this page someone has noted the front sights are too low: gunsoftheoldwest.com/2013/03/uberts-1862-police/2/ now I just have to decide what to do about that.
yes it can carefully file it to true and see if that cures your prob
Just wanted to report that I just shot the 1862 after having a professional put a crown....it now shoots accurately and I am able to use your method to sight it in properly. Thanks again.
What grit sandpaper do you use when sanding the muzzle?
i start usually in 400 range then climb up untill polished and smooth..go to the auto parts and bu sheets..i buy 1 or 2 of each up to 1800
So you use the 400 grit to move the POA, then after the POA is set you use the automotive grit papers to polish & finish? Thanks.
So you use the 400 grit to move POA, then polish with high grit automotive paper to finish it?
Sorry, I didn't think the 1st reply worked!
YES.. often..i will use a file say 2 strokes..shoot.. 2 strokes...when its close i got to the 400..when its there.. then i polish out the finer grits to remove file and sanding marks
When you say sand paper, what kind of grit are we talking about?
for polishing i go get automotive sandpaper in grits of 800 up to 2000
You kinda look like a Wal-Mart Version of Billy Bob Thornton. Sorry bro ,I love some of your content and I know it's very time consuming to make them. Thank you for that so forgive my observation.
lol several have pointed that out