Why Did I Make This? - Critiquing My Own Game
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“And also, why i used this font? i will never know. This is like a star wars font. Why i used it? i don’t know.”
rats is star backwards
Oh backwards is ho. So the game is "Star Ho". 😅
I'm interested in you revisiting more games. Offering clips of your critiquing games might be cool? At a guess - you used the Star Wars font for Oh! Rats! because STAR is RATS spelled backwards 🤣
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12:27 this 100%
I've known a lot of stubborn devs that never change anything because they have the mentality of "I've never had that problem/I think it's fine."
Especially if you ever want to make money off game dev, you NEED to leave behind any ego you may have and try to rationalize anything you hear.
I've totally had times where someone would say something, and while I'd think it's fine I'd change something anyway, and I've been glad I did every time.
9:50 As someone who has literally been doing that exact thing for the past few weeks, I'd very much like to see someone else's process on returning to older projects and polishing / patching them
There should be more "Update/fix an old jam game" game jams.
I like the idea of videos looking back at your older games and seeing how your design sensibilities change with time and experience!
Stamina bar and bonfires, clearly dark souls in mind 🤣
I like this kind of video, less scripted and more improvised and chill
Also, intentionally leaving a cheese strat in a rat based game? That just sounds meta and like a feature to me 🤣
Great video! And yes, I would love to see you fixing old game jam games.
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I would love more of this type of video. It’s nice to have a cut up short form version of a review at times when I’m not able to sit through a whole stream. Until recently I had an even used twitch so I’m happy to see these!
Yeah, I'd love to see a series of going back to older jams, and it would give me a reason to rewatch those videos I haven't seen since they came out
16:18, You intentionally let that cheese in because the rats love cheese :D lol
i remember seeing the devlog of you making this and yes defiantly would love to see a series of you fixing your old jam games
I feel if a jump needs to be perfect than it should be for side optional content for the more hardcore players.
I was introduced to you and your games through this art pack jam, so its fun watching you reflect on it. I would be really interested in more too
Please do more of this!
Definitely would like to see a series about going back and fixing up older games. I wish more developers did that.
Same it would be cool to see how he make the same game differently
Looking back at old games you've made is a great way to see how you've evolved, maybe if you're up to it, looking at and dissecting an early MWG could be good to do :)
Great video! It's very entertaining to see you critiquing your game design decisions you made in rush for game jams :) That's how we -game developers- humans learn - from mistakes and missed opportunities 🐵
I would really like to see you revisit and update some of your old game jam games! Especially this one, it's so close to being something really cool! It just needs a bit of the tweaks you mentioned, and then it'd be great!
This as very good video. And I really think you should revisit the game and make a “Oh! Rats! Remaster TM”
a more specific idea for videos where you review/remake games is to review 2 or 3, and remake one of the games (a smaller one for times sake)
i think a mini-series like that would be super super fun to watch!
LET'S GOOO i checked my subs feed first time in a week and what do I see uploaded 6 secs ago?
I think (a) video/s chronicling the improvement of a game jam game's concept could be really interesting in terms of showing the evolution in game design, and seeing what you can do with the game in hindsight.
i'd definitely be interested in seeing you revisit older jam games and improve upon them. either just fixing level design, mechanics, or even redoing some art or giving it a full make-over. all of that would be really cool. "Oh Rats!" especially seems like one that is worthy of polishing up a bit more, and you could redo the art to make it more attractive while you're fixing the level design and stuff. Cross the Gap is perfect though. i'm pretty sure you don't need to touch that one unless you just want to add more levels to it. :)
This video has an amazing concept
A great addition to this would be to make it where you use the coins to activate the checkpoints and have to have collected x amount to proceed to the next level. That would incentives players to try to get more.
I think you should make a little update, where you change the hitboxes a bit and keep the stamina bar, BUT make it so that if you are midair from a jump while the stamina bar runs out, it doesn't slow you, and also so that running is impossible to start mid-air. Oh and also make a larger stamina bar. And if you have time you could make more levels. The ones you already made could be the last 8 levels.
I think we need a design term for avoiding things that frustrate the player and make them feel like it's not their fault they failed at a challenge. Difficulty is not the right word and its not always just clunkiness with hitboxes and the like. I have been using "friendliness" though its a bit scuffed as well. A game like Celeste is very difficult but it's "friendly". It has coyote time, jump buffering, whatever you call the thing where it helps you around a ledge above that you just barely bump into, good hitboxes, fast respawns, no music cuts on death, and all these little minor helpers to give the player the benefit of the doubt and make the experience as seamless as possible and yet it still manages to be quite difficult.
I think friendliness is a flawed term as well but maybe you have a better idea on what to call it.
Cool video !
I like that "stream-like" format.
9:50 - I'd definitely be interested in you revisiting some of your older games. 😁
I'm not good with words, but I can definitely reinforce a yes to this idea for videos. I honestly don't know how to word this so I'll just say that I personally think this fits right into what you do with your games and in your community. I'd really love to see you go back and look a little more into past games you've made to help encourage the idea of going back to see what works and what doesn't and learning from it instead of just one and done, move on to the next thing. It doesn't have to be a consistent thing, but every now and then it would be really nice to see.
When you mainly see one side of game dev (namely the project after project and constant progress forward) it can sometimes seem like you're just supposed to know what you're doing at all times and you can't stop to re-evaluate your past projects because you just don't have time to. Having videos like this can help people learn or remember to take a minute and reflect or just take it easy on themselves and slow down a little. There's a lot to be learned from your past projects even way down the line when you think you've already learned all you can while you were making the thing.
I dunno, maybe I'm just projecting my own feelings on people. It's very possible. Still gonna be pushing for this content to be made, though. I want it so bad. Please, I'll pay if I have to (And yes, please do little cut ups of the Feedback Fridays. I don't care if it's once a year, I want it. My memory sucks and I find it to be a crime when I forget some of the cool things people are making. Also, lots of knowledge to be gained from those streams)
Brick done. Bye now
It's really interesting to understand how you see the game now. I often think it's cool when people return to jam games but I usually don't think it's worth it, unless you've got something solid.
It would be really interesting if you made a renovation video where you create yourself a punch list of things to improve, then sit down and make the changes and show the bits of code that implement the fix. Lots of us have hit box issues and seeing someone fix that kind of issue would be really helpful. Just an 💡
great video, thanks man
I think it would be interesting to see an updated version of the game you critique. You've grown a lot from when you did these. Even if you were given the same time constraint I think you'd be able to give a much more polished video. I don't know if this would work as well on this channel, but I have seen some game reformatting videos recently. Perhaps something similar could work here?
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Alright but why do you start running like 10 meters away from the ledge at every jump?
I don't remember if you added it in or not, but another good thing to add to Oh Rats! would be coyote time
Honestly there's a lot that i like about Oh! Rats! The esthetics of the game and how you executed on the top down was really good, i very much like the multiple levels going up and the jump mechanics between them, the only thing that I'd say that'd fix it real quick is just adding a dash maybe like Mega Man X where the velocity is kept after you jump even if it runs out, add a little bit of polish after that and i think this'd be a really fun game :)
tbh i was already wanting you to try and remake this game before you said it. you dont need to, but i think itd be a fun video!
also, your video about how to start making games prompted me to download godot and make pong:) it was really fun, though i got one symbol wrong and spent an hour looking for it lol. either way, i was really happy with the outcome! it plays nicely and since i also like to draw, i believe it was aesthetically pleasing
when i try and redo it to see how much i can remember, im gonna try and make it cursed instead hehe
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I would totally watch a long form video of you taking a game jam product and giving it the extra polish you cant in a game jam. Likely not full release polish much closer to.
It might be the framerate, but the video (facecam) and audio just seem a bit off?
Regardless, great video as usual!
I really liked this type of video. And the concept of revisiting old games feels interesting. Would like to see it come true.
Finished the game 15 min into the video with 460 coins(I think it's all of them?). Wasn't too bad, the platform edges are of course screwed up, but the jump time in the air is enough to compensate for it, so wasn't much trouble. Had one peculiar glitch char would go inside the platform and collect coins above while being underneath.
Oh about the dash bar... I think it has a place in this game, I enjoyed timing sequences.
I would make it regenerate faster though. Something like feathers in A Short Hike... you get your sequence limit but it's quick to regen for another sequence of action.
Another thing to consider: when making keyboard controls - most keyboards have keys groupped physically(hardware) and keys may not be pressed simultaneously. For example it's typical for arrow keys and space key to have mutual interference...
P.S. on the last level you don't have to walk across the edge, you can just jump and move with quick stops when a rat moves away. That's how I did it, before I even saw how you were doing it.
Re: Difficulty: When I was making my game for the VimJam, if I was having any trouble making a jump or anything, I tweaked it until I could get through that section of the game effortlessly. That seems like a decent place to start. (Figuring out what to do was harder than it should have been, because I couldn't find anyone willing and able to play my game ahead of time, but getting through was easy enough if they figured that out.)
I would like to see you update a game
I would really like to see you revising and fixing your old games. As a challenge I would add a timer ( 2 hours?) to see how much you have grown since and keep the game jam spirit. Would you think that you could improve the game within that time? That way you also practise to prioritize a bit and really think about what need to be improved first and what actually doesnt need to be improved.
Hi I really want to make a video game and I have a lot of ideas. I have absolutely 0 knowledge or experience, no money, no computer I only have mobile and I just don’t even know where to start. Your content inspires me and gives me hope that one day I can make video games like you!
I really suck at video games, but this is one game that I went through and beat.
I would love if you showed one, maybe two gamejam games and how you would improve them. Going really in-depth on how much of a difference there is when you have more time to (re)design the game.
EDIT: For example, making your max stamina bigger for every coin you pick up in Oh! Rats!. It's painful seeing you not make the jumps :)
I just finished the game in like 15 minutes while collecting all 460 coins and I didn't feel like there was any problems with the hitboxes or dashing. The level design wasn't bad either, I actually thought the level design was good. If there was any problem with the game it was that you kinda not being able to control your character when in air. I thought it was a great game for such a small time period
Yes please, definitely interested on you going back through the old game jam games but I guess you might feel “obligated” to do it and we wouldn’t want that. If you feel that there are some games you’d like to rework in then go for it but don’t burn yourself out just because it’s content we’d like to see 😊
Has there ever been any game jams where the goal was to revisit your worst entry And try to improve it in the amount of time allotted?
its got a little bit of a chips challenge feel to its.
Yep
i like your mustach :D
the should be a shift_h for games that would fix all these problems
edited streams would be nice
the "oh! rats!" name isn't bad, it's actually pretty good in a simple stupid way
You should re make this game!!!! Also I think you should do this with more game jam games. And improve them.
You should duel stream on RUclips and then RUclips will upload your stream as a video so those of us who don't watch your streams but enjoy your content can watch them and you won't have to fuss with video editing.
Rats? Stamina Bar? Bonfire? Janky Hitboxes? You really did have Dark Souls on the mind
part of Link's Awakening was top-down platforming, once you get the roc's feather. Seeing this I can definitely see why major developers abandoned the concept.
Man I think your games are great, but it’s almost beneficial that we never think what we make is as good as what someone else might make, because it allows for improvement through critiquing. Great video!
Heyyyyyyyyyyy vimlark
The oh! rats! Conspiracy grows. Vimlark says he has no idea why he used the Star wars font, Little did he know it was fate. Rats spelled backwards is Star!
Cutting up the streams and posting on here would be nice!
You know what this means………… “Oh Rats!” Remaster!
Hit boxes aside, never make jumps that require 100% of your jump power (except maybe for like secrets and stuff). Instead, to add difficulty, look at Super Mario Brothers, they'll have short jumps but like bullet bills and winged turtles flying at you. Make it more about player agility and creativity; give them a choice of how they can tackle the problem. With a 100% jump there's only one way to do it and it's not giving the players a chance to be creative.
it's not just bad hitboxes, it's a lack of coyote time
You've always stated you don't like the idea of revisiting games from old Jams so maybe not redoing an older game. But I'd love to see you improve them in some way. Maybe make a new game improving off 2 or 3 concepts you think could have been polished in older games. Maybe allowing yourself to reuse some code and art to make it easier on yourself. A game jam made only using concepts from your older games? I'm sure you'll find some idea that interests you. Just noting my interest in seeing the content 😀.
It would be awesome if you took old games of yours and update it.
Level 5 was when I gave up on that game.
Great example that we can all dislike some of the things we make but can find a way to critique it and not just shit on it. Find a way to come up with solutions instead of just hating it.
very noice
Nice
6:45 That's why you do 3D stuff with actual 3D objects. Not by simulating with 2D objects. ;)
I would have liked to see more games in the video instead of just one. "Hit box" and "hard jumps" were what I kept hearing throughout the video. I know that using one game per video is tempting for making more content but then it becomes an issue of quality vs quantity. With all that said, I do wish you would continue this series. It is beneficial for you and also us to discover these little mistakes that ruin our games. Also, please don't shy away from your good games. It is worthwhile to discover things that work and feel good to play.
When i played this game i think i diding get to the second level
Fix My Game Jam coming soon? XD
I did beat it!
Hey
nice ;D
Well rats do need cheese
lesss go :D
a new vid? am I dreaming? :D
MWG?
Where can I Get this Game?
Hi
Have you ever played terraria?
Rework things like this
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obligatory comment for the algorithm.
i completed the game and didnt dash at all...
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