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When a Client Is Stuck in the Freeze Response with Peter Levine, PhD
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2020
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What triggers the freeze response?
We tend to think of traumatic events, but according to Peter Levine, PhD, that’s not always the case. Even a perceived threat can be enough for a client to get stuck in a frozen state.
So how can we help clients who are stuck in the freeze response to move forward?
According to Peter, the energy that is “locked up” in a client’s frozen state is the exact energy we need to target to help them find a release.
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I have C-PTSD and I can tell you this man knows exactly what he is talking about.
So why don’t you do somatic experiencing and make it past tense? I did seventeen sessions to deal with seven traumas including car accidents. I got a friend to do the same. Life’s to short. I lived with cptsd for just over fifty years.
I have C-PTSD too and it takes resources to have the DR that is trauma informed like this.
Really, cuz he's putting me to sleep.
What is helping me for free.
Just lie down, comfortably. And bring your awareness to your heart. Or bring your awarenes to itself.
Ask yourself: Do I exist? And ler your attention go where it goes.
And stay there, as long as you need. It is tremendous relief.
Also mindfulness. Realize how pleasant it is to breath in and out.
When walking, feel the ground with the feet. Slow walking.
Slow eating with closed eyes.
Another free exercise.
When I breathe in, I feel the body part containing anger.
When I breathe out, I smile to the body part. I relax.
Saying this in my head with breath surprised me.
I wish you to get well soon :)
@@michaellamont9972you can’t tell people how to progress. I have cptsd your statement-that’s emotionally abusive, saying this shows you’ve learned nothing. There are all sorts of trauma and everyone is individual!
This has happened to me all my life, I had a seriously abusive childhood where in the 'family' I was the vilified child (girls are useless and worthless) The brother was the 'golden child'! Saint Jeffery!
I grew up totally unaware that I was being abused and shit on by everyone. I am now 63 years old, I only came to the realisation that I was being abused a few years ago after seeing a private counsellor for 5 years. I spent my life totally dissociated. I'm battling with the results of a completely lost life - I'm now trying to find some sense of 'who I am'.
When someone 'has a go at me' I completely freeze, even now and it takes hours to realise it - then it's like 'actually that individual had no right to speak to me like that'! That's when it sinks in! I then feel the rage of injustice! It happens every time. Then I'm like I should have said this or that to them.
It's so hard to 'live' in the world when your life was totally ripped away from you from such a young age. Socialising is impossible!
Please, look into Levine's book: Healing Trauma. It is so practical and the exercises are easy to follow. This can help you connect with yourself and thaw.
I’m 60 yo and am in the same boat as you.
Me @57. I have no support . All alone. Severe CpTS .
Totally get it ❤
@@rubytuesday7653YOU HAVE US ❤️
When I went through EMDR therapy I struggled with wanting to kill someone too. She told me it was ok to THINK it, I just couldn't act on it. That was such a new concept for me. It was me telling myself I was such an awful person for even thinking this thought that created the tension for me. Playing out in my HEAD blowing this person up was actually quite helpful in dissipating the anger energy.
I totally disagree with that. Negative and violent thoughts are very harmful. It’s really NOT OK TO THINK THAT WAY. If you hold a thought for 68 seconds or more, they multiply, creating more negative thoughts, and those thoughts also multiply in 68 sec. acknowledge your thought for a few sec., and SEND THEM OUT TO THE UNIVERSE WITH LOVE FOR HEALING. otherwise you original negative thought becomes a black hole and will suck you in. That is why depression is hard to get out of. That is why so many people commit suicide. The negative thoughts multiply, ‘win’ and eventually take their life. We’re human. I think every single one of us had
or have thoughts about being angry at someone. This is life-But do not hold on to that thought. Anger, sadness, negativity in all shapes and forms- is a poison that destroys its container ( you). DO NOT HOLD THAT HARMFUL ENERGY. LET IT GO AND BE HAPPY. Do something that makes you happy, lift your vibration, help yourself to snap out. ❤️
@@Erica-yr3gf Well, I think the point is ...if we reject that thought, we DO hang on to it because it wants to be acknowledged. If we ALLOW the thought, it dissipates. It worked for me anyway. And it's what my therapist teaches.
@@Erica-yr3gf Are you a psychotherapist?
@@Erica-yr3gf I think violence is actual somewhat normal we do have primal parts of us so the moral reasoning usually overrides the violence and then we do socially acceptable forms of violence like playing sports but if you study history most of it was pretty bloody
@@abbykoop5363 yes!!! I was told by my therapist too! I was very wronged and tried to be a good person and push down the anger which caused me so many physical and emotional issues
I have 2 pulled teeth, 2 cracked teeth, and TMJ with severe jaw pain from teeth grinding/clinching while asleep and sometimes throughout the day. I recently have started to understand and accept the long term effects of my childhood trauma. It has been a physically and emotionally painful process and I'm doing my best to be grateful for the unearthing.
That's great, keep going. I'm realizing from this video that I use to freeze my shoulders and jaw too!
Try meditating for 5 minutes before bed everyday
Look in to Internal Family Systems (IFS) Id recommend the book "No Bad Parts" by Richard Schwartz. Go slow, be patient with yourself, respect that you've been through a lot 🙏
Try ashwaghanda! Helps me LOADS!
@@ascend555 meditation sucks, sorry. Wasted years of my life with it and all I got for my trouble was sleep paralysis
My heart is frozen but breaking open at the same time from heartbreak. Rejection is a deep wound from childhood.
And the cracks will allow the light and warmth of the loving people around you seep into your heart
No child deserves to be rejected. It’s never been about you. Every child is born beautiful and worthy of complete and total ❤️ love
Fast and pray
God bless you. Always remember self-love and discipline
When I started to be able to read more of God’s word, I knew I was breaking out of the trauma.
This makes sense, so I tried it. It is amazing how this reconnects you to your body and perhaps your sense of self if trauma is severe enough. It takes time because it's about re-establishing a connection to ourselves. That's hard work when you're in freeze, but it's absolutely attainable.
Yeah, I agree. Dr. Levine is gold - just fantastic teaching.
Try working the neck it's more changeling but what a tremendous feeling mobility.❤️
hi I want to ask it's freeze mean can't feel emotions feelings numb can't feel ourselves? please reply me I can feel myself my emotions feelings
@@seanfox3007 hi how are you please explain me your problem
Thanks I freeze all time then I start nail biting and nose playing with it awful
I remember once someone in a position of authority was so disrespectful of someone who was never mean or aggressive to anyone. It triggered something that scared me into watching posts about anger management. Almost as soon as she deemed this helpless old man as not worthy of basic human respect, something in me lost all ability to give her respect. I swear I felt like I could tear her throat out with my teeth. I wasn't even related to the old guy but I felt this woman's attitude was a threat to all humanity. Scary to know what one is capable of feeling.
Yes I get angry when my mother won’t care for her dog I just get so annoyed we are born with this need protect the vulnerable
@@laurenpaterson3475 I relate to this SO much that I am angry just hearing that your mother doesn't care for her dog! I would say that animal unkindness/abuse "triggers" me, I guess you would call it, massively.
@@laurenpaterson3475 if she didn’t care for her dog, she must have not cared for you? 😔
Your last two sentences are absolutely correct.
Help the dog even if it takes stealing the dog.
Never ever thought my TMJ was a response mechanism!
I’ve been dealing with this jaw problem for years! The more I’m stresss the more I freeze the more my jaw cracks! 39 years to finaly understand my problem on a RUclips video! What is wrong with doctors cus I’ve been in so many I’ve lost the count! Thank you so much for this video! It changed everything for me! ❤
They have other interests it seems. We were prognosticated to have to become our own doctors and nurses in the future, and we are there now. Can jaw issues be a subconscious, old response of wanting to bite the one wj harm us, för self-protection? I also have jaw and teeth problems, never knew it could be related. Apparently, jaw is also related to Psoas
Doctors aren’t trained to have a holistic approach to physical health. Most do not operate from an understanding that first and foremost, the mind and body are connected. They just deal with physical symptoms.
Memories scare me. I've lost years with dissociation, like I froze time.
I can relate
Froze feelings like froze in time 30 years ago
Something triggered me & now all the froze repressed feelings are coming up now..
It’s awful just like the past is alive in the present moment.
Like it was froze then suddenly thawed out & came back to life 😢
I'm going through similar things due to stress/anxiety now. I started clenching my teeth in my sleep. While I'm awake I overthink and bite my lip until it hurts/bleeds and I don't always realize I'm doing it until it hurts/bleeds. People don't realize how much you physically and mentally go through with anxiety/stress.
I suffer from bruxism induced by stress but never realised until now that it's a primal instinct. Wow.
I started grinding my teeth in high school as a stress response from a covert narc moher. We need to start educating younger people about this kind of stress, so that they can a fnid a way to get away from it sooner.
Me too. And there are definitely a lot of people I want to bite. Plus there's the "having to bite your tongue" aspect. The biblical "gnashing of teeth". In German we even say when someone has to do something against their will that they do it "tooth-grindingly".
@@desaturated-firefox ‘Through gritted teeth’ is the English saying.
@@amandatarkington6877 me too. The response from the trauma of having a nark mum
Ironic, I used to bite a lot as a child, even into adulthood. I wasn’t allowed to voice any “negative” emotions growing up or even as an adult because by then I was programmed to keep my mouth shut. I ended up medicated for decades. Now at almost 60 I have intractable diseases, including severe TMJ. To this day I’m afraid to speak my mind. So much pain and suffering. A lifetime living in freeze is not good for the body or mind. I wish I found you 20 years ago.
Align your chakras through staying grounded and balanced 🧘♂️🙏
@ascend555 I've worked on the chakras, especially root, sacral, and solar plexus. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@cassieopia532 did it do anything for you?
@ascend555 Nothing that lasted. Maybe I wasn't consistent enough.
@@cassieopia532 also up your water intake plus regular Epsom salt baths. Give it three months or so
It’s actually been releasing trauma from my neck (pressing on VERY intense pain points) that led me to this info. I haven’t fully released yet but I believe there’s something to be said about tapping into your body first before even understanding/mentally grasping what’s really going on.
This is weird. I just worked with some trigger points on my neck because I woke up with what I think is a migraine caused by tension (I so have TMJ) and man! I just stumbled with this video.
@@Hanakowmaybe we should check out this guys book, waking the tiger
Thank you. It's important to know that something like missing a promotion can put your body into a freeze
I wonder if he thinks of his job as his survival. A higher position means more respect and especially more money.
I don’t think you get it…. It isn’t something like promotion. Potentially that person is experiencing seeing deep rooted unfairness and discriminations at their work. So it can be really shocking to see .. it all depends and case by case is different. What is important is to be understanding not judgemental
Thank you dr. Make sense. In the other hand, that is why I don’t work for anyone and don’t have a boss. Anytime there’s a boss and/or a company, there’s a lot of ‘politics’ and unfair situations no matter what company. They’re all unfair. Find the ‘sweet spot’ where SERVICE meets your PASSION and work for yourself, because that’s what you suppose to do. Your business will thrive and you will be happy, and you can say ‘ I never worked a day’, because work will be FUN not work. God bless. ❤️🇺🇦☮️💕🙏🏻🌎👍🍀💚🇺🇦☮️💕
I'm definitely in a freeze place. I have been wanting to get free for awhile.
How did you go Theodorable? Did you move through freeze?
Major breakthrough. Freeze response triggers seizures for myself and I believe many
This I'd not what i mean for freeze, I mean having no energy, brain fog, dissociation, weak muscles, for days, weeks months
Agreed. There's freeze and there's functional freeze. Irene Lyon's channel is a good resource on this.
Perfect synch. I've been dealing with tense jaw/tmj issues for a week...yesterday, I did the tapping technique and anger came up. Lucky for me tonight, your video popped up... thank you for sharing your wisdom and insight..
I'm 61 had this problem for years cacked teeth ear ache for years thinking ear infection very painful thank you❤ I can work with this😊
😭😭😭😭 My jaw muscles will NOT relax! I've been free from abuse for 5 years and I'm safe and in a wonderful, safe marriage now.
Suppressing anger with the muscles. Wow. I think I must be really angry 😢 I don't know how to get it to stop.
I think I've always been afraid of people who were meant to protect me. It usually kicks in around bedtime. It's like my body is getting ready for an attack. Even taking about my experiences makes my jaw tense up. How do I release this energy/tension!? There's not a lot of info on C-ptsd and trauma! 😢
I've experienced this too, and noticed especially bedtime/while I sleep. You're not alone - and thank you for sharing, it helped connect a few dots for myself. I've been doing a range of things to help heal, most recently finding IFS therapy to be very helpful in reconnecting to the self and helping to reestablish trust within. One practice I've been doing is to remind myself (as needed throughout the day/night) of what my current safe and healthy life is like, that I am far away from those who have hurt me, that it is safe to rest now. Hope your body has been adjusting to your new normal of a safe and loving environment/relationship. 💚
@Peter Levine : Is it normal to cry when coming out of the frozen state, and what is the neurologically and physiologically scientific explanation behind the phenomenon of tears when the body relaxes?
A heartfelt thank you from Germany for the explanatory video. The video and exercises have been immensely helpful.
Absolutely! Tears are usually an awesome sign of moving the energy which is the goal of healing. Congrats!
Tears and shaking. Whole body shaking. See workoutwitch here on yt. Greetings from Germany :-) PS: somatic experience exercises do not help me at all. Tried twice from different providers.
Suffering from freeze mode and anxiety disorder since 3 years and now suffering from TMJ pain 😭 😭 😭 omg I'm shocked !! And its heartbreaking to know this !! I failed my medical college entrance national exam for these 3 years as my body was stuck in it. Omg thank you so much now I'll hopefully start working on it, sir huge respect for you.🙏🏻❤️🩹✨🧿
I think love Peter Levine, his kindness and compassion!
OM Goodness, I know all these people Bessel van der Kolk, Peter Levine & even obtained 2 brief trainings from Pat Ogden whose work I love; Now I've got to see who Ruth Lanius is and what her specialty is! As a former BC Women's & Aboriginal Wellness in Community north west BC counsellor this is too late for my former work with clients, but it's so interesting 10 yrs after retiring.
I've been in therapy for over 20 years with a lot of trauma, and the freeze thing is new to me. My psychiatrist has always said not to worry and get caught up with the names of diagnosis and just work on our talk therapy. I don't know if I have it or not, but I clench my teeth so hard I broke a tooth and didn't even know, my dentist discovered it. Also I went in for a few physical therapy sessions and the PT said she had never, ever seen stomach muscles so strong (I don't work out, I'm middle aged). I don't remember the details now but they were so strong they interfered with what she was trying to help me with.
Idk you, but as the "self aware therapy client" that's had to fire a couple therapists, may I suggest (unsolicited, ot course) you seek another healing modality, something inclusive of mindfulness, somatic healing or something? 20 years of talk therapy sounds helpful, but if you FEEL like there's something in your body (which fully keeps the score, as they say), your therapist should want you to explore and release it, not prevent you from accessing it. Obviously, Idk you or them, but I'm also a trauma informed healer who works with women who express similar concerns re: years of therapy & my clients are always shocked & grateful for the release they have during and after our sessions. Not saying fire your therapist, but maybe add a coach or ask them about other treatment options & don't accept anything less than a yes because they exist and if it doesn't work, you can return to your weekly talk sessions, no harm, no foul. Please be well 🙏🏾
I love the short yet great example of self awareness to have ourselves out of the freeze response. 👏👏👏
THANK YOU !! so much !!
Some psychologist have SOME -20 MIN. video & its NOT helpful when
People need the help..
What a man! You are so amazing!
thank you for this video. I have PTSD and I've gotten stuck before and it's really hard for me to understand let alone someone else. These help others help me, thank you
I have a theory that, since I’ve worked on my anger management, my fight response got replaced by freeze. Has anyone experienced this, is it possible? I’m trying to make sense of my situation, why I dissociate so much… at least when I was angry my brain could think and I could do my job, now I literally cannot think or be creative, I make the stupidest errors. I wish I could control myself better.
Sometimes when people work with anger issues, they think the solution is going in the opposite direction (or believing it's not ok to FEEL anger). So it gets suppressed.
Dissociation may come from a lack of connection. Because you are now in freeze, you are not allowing yourself to be vulnerable (i.e feeling the anger). It is repressed.
I've been an anger repressor for decades, only now coming to terms with it. Every time I'm triggered, I look to see if there is anger there, finding ways to acknowledge it - feel it - and checking in with my body to see what it tells me
It doesn't equate with me blowing up at someone, or acting violently. It is merely an inner recognition of what's happening inside. (Sometimes it means having to remove myself from a situation in order to fully allow the energy to flow through)
@@ahakangard that’s a really good point, thank you! I guess I need to find concrete ways to express my anger. Ways that don’t harm me (or others ofc)
@@homiekeen23 interestingly enough, as I’ve removed myself from the toxic relationship I was in, and then found another partner who had no mental health issues and a secure attachment style, since then I have no problems regulating my emotions in conflict with him. Everything is a healthy two way discussion and sometimes he even gets angrier than me (raising voice or getting visibly frustrated, all within normal boundaries).
I can imagine some people, perhaps you too, have difficulties that affect all dynamics and not just romance. So maybe in that sense I’m “lucky”.
Thinking back, through therapy and self work, what helped me was understanding why certain emotions occur, naming them, journaling etc. but the biggest thing of all is self trust. I trust that I am right to feel the way I do. I trust that I can handle this situation. I trust that I DESERVE to handle this situation properly. That I deserve a better healthier state of mind, happiness, progress. That I am safe, or if I’m not, I’m able to create safety for myself (physically as well as emotionally). And all of this is blind trust - without proof. Simply because you are. And if ur wrong that’s fine too. Wrong judgment is ok we all make mistakes. I try kindness with myself in such mishaps rather than berating myself and adding onto the issue. No matter what nasty stuff the inner voice says, keep the trust going. It feels stupid unnatural and cringe maybe but what if it works. Avenues so far haven’t worked so might as well try
it's when you go numb. Getting completely away from person/people who have this influence on you is the only way to get clarity and un-freeze. Even Jesus got away many times from horrible people.
I agree. I had a panic attack from eating an edible for the first time, and a couple months later I started getting regularly occuring panic attacks without the weed. It was only until I realized I was hiding from those scary feelings and sensations and sat down alone and felt into my body did I get out of the freeze response
I was wondering why my jaw and teeth are cracked, missing and I have CPTSD and I have been isolating and suppressing for five years. I’m cranky but I’m not angry. I wonder why that is? This man is brilliant
If there is such a fury, for me it is a signal (after all, the feelings of a child are much more intense than those of an adult) that this anger comes from his early childhood and was triggered by the event with his colleague that unconsciously reminded him of a painful event in his childhood about which he than could not release his anger freely and had to repress his rage and transfer this rage to his colleague. So, if we ignore that this anger comes from childhood, the childhood trauma remains in the body and the exercise is more focused on well-being than living through the trauma and developing insight about the trauma and its dynamics,
to know oneself.
I've been in freeze-mode for months-- and years to some degree .
Regular therapists/ counselors are pretty useless.
How are you now? I’ve been working on getting out of freeze. I think JournalSpeak by Nicole Sachs is very helpful
Wow he has a very relaxing voice 😊
I can deal with many emotions, but anger...I haven't really found a way to process it. People say to punch pillows n stuff.....but I don't have that violent rage in me. I just need a way to FEEL the anger without it clogging up my whole body.
Process and release through daily meditation and prayer. Should see improvement in a few months or so
I did the jaw exercise that he described. I saw a whole bunch of memories from the past and know what caused my tmj. I feel like the tension has released. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
4:02 The Key - working with the energy that's gotten locked in
This sounds like a suppressed fight reflex, not wanting to kill the person per sè.
The jaw and shoulders are often affected when my vagus nerve goes off.
While processing trauma ive had a weird symptom pop up. An aching in my top gums and a psoriasis flare on my nose. When doing this exercise, my whole mouth started tingling and my face turned into a snarl. All the areas ive been having issues were activated into a literal SNARL. I was holding that in? Without knowing it?! Ive got 'Waking the Tiger' on my to read list...I just know its gonna be good.
I’m missing so many teeth now but a lot of that was compounded but not brushing, eating terrible food, not drinking water and be prescribed stimulants from age seven to twenty one
A good therapy has to embrace feeling old feelings and allow them to be felt into a myriad of possibilities - like rages and shames , disgust and losses ..With contexts and memory discussed so feelings can be expressed in "appropriated times" .. Most people don't get enough love as kids and plenty are traumatized - even sadly abused... It's a trail of losses for some all dissociated away until the pressure of their internal truth pushes to consciousness to be integrated and accepted .. Yes it can be done ... Do it slowly though otherwise it will hurt too much emotionally ... Be careful ... xxx
WOW that's fascinating story. thanks for sharing and shedding light on all of this interesting trauma knowledge. You are appreciated.
All wonderful stuff. Im just really starting to learn how the freeze response affects me. I mostly learned about fight or flight as its predominate in trauma literature. But freeze plays at least as important a part as the other two and possibly more are the affect of freeze leads to the most suppression.
This is a great video but it is a bit disappointing in the respect that it only speaks to the symptoms of the freeze effect. It mostly ignores the trauma responsible for creating this pattern. In the example of the man looking for a promotion its only spokennof how the man feals towards the other man and how it effects his autonomous responses. Not that trauma influenced him to be this way and that there are better ways to deal with the situation rather than treat symptoms or undo the initial trauma use a positive strategy on his life goals.
yeah, they are good points too. How to use the energy of anger.... in a good way for oneself.
Honest Sharing by Gopal has been really helpful for me
Some of us continue to go through situations and exposed to groups who have harmed us or continue to cause issues. Perception rhymes with deception. I would think you would help more people if you help them to determine if it’s past or it’s something that could happen again. If I slow myself down, at times I ask myself is this possible/repeat then ask is it a threat in this very moment.
Most of the time not in this moment but have had things happen I never could have imagined.
I would love to know more about the freeze response, but I am too sensitive to watch videos about animals being in distress. I understand that this is a great way to show people what we are experiencing so I’m on the quest to find some other videos that don’t have animals in it.if a anyone has any suggestions I would be great so grateful thank you
You're an earth angel. Look up other videos.
@@ascend555 Thank you beautiful soul. You are also an angel on this earth
I get a tight abdomen, like inside. Trying to expand bit by bit now with belly breaths. Expand more each time. And I think it’s working
Thank you ❤️
Amazing..... I miss the YMCA
I'm older it's harder to get to the y 😅😅😅
Love Peter Levine work you are amazing. I'm revisiting your work atm for my own practice. Beautiful soul 🙏✨
Oh man, I was with a guy for 4 years who wouldnt accept that I wasnt ready for a relationship so he forced me to be in one with him which lead me to having back pains the doctors couldnt explain. I also grind my teeth to where they'd break off, so loud people heard it through a concrete wall. After 1,5 years I came in, in a wheelchair, I was by then feeling faint all day due to the pain and the doctor finally read my journal and gave me muscle relaxants. THAT helped but the guy would force me for several years after that..I moved, reported him to the police, nothing helped. Finally he tired himself and let me be but by then I was so afraid I was alone for 8 years after. The backpains didnt come back, it was anger for being forced to be with him when I wasnt ready.
I am really glad you shared this experience... Since I am in a similar situation where my narcissist parents are forcing me for marriage and just by thinking about it triggers unbelievable chest pain and headache..
I hope you are doing well now wherever you are right now I hope you are safe
Just tried it..it's absolutely amazing!!
Thank you ❤ I can't believe how easy that was to fix. How about sleep walking do you have any tips for me?
Thank you very much for this channel i am applying this on myself , thank you very much 🌹🌹❤❤
What is helping me for free.
Just lie down, comfortably. And bring your awareness to your heart. Or bring your awarenes to itself.
Ask yourself: Do I exist? And let your attention go where it goes.
And stay there, as long as you need. It is tremendous relief.
Also mindfulness. Realize how pleasant it is to breath in and out.
When walking, feel the ground with the feet. Slow walking.
Slow eating with closed eyes.
Another free exercise.
When I breathe in, I feel the body part containing anger.
When I breathe out, I smile to the body part. I relax.
Saying this in my head while breathing surprised me.
Or find video from Plum Village channel:
What does it mean to go home to yourself? | Thich Nhat Hanh answers questions
A lot of tears. A lot of relief.
I wish you all to get well soon.
I having fluctuating hearing loss and autophony due to a patulous Eustachian tube. I'm in a very hard time emotionaly and tinking that my ear issues are likend to that. Thanks a lot!!
Yesterday my psychiater explained polyvagal theory and suggested that my ear problems are connected to my cptsd trough the vagal nerve.... amazing we start to know so much! I am starting the safe and sound protocol next week.
@@harry356 safe and sound protocol? Could you provide information about? Thanks Harry.
@@harry356 you got lucky. I can't find anyone who is Even available or open, nevermind who understands c~pstd. I'm just medicated. Suxs. Best of luck.
@@denisealley9822 thanks a lot Denise 🙂
@@piedadg3679 @Harry You're welcome😊 I'm a psyche nurse, but a disaster LOL. I'm trying to get the 17 + parts of the body keeps the score for you. It's on here free. Wishing you all of the best life has to offer you!
Uops. I just beat my mother (all theatre). I was in terror and cold in the bones tonight. Numb muscles.
When I release this energy warm body and sweat again.
I tried before this hugging myself and send me love. Other times I sleep my anxiety away. But I like to short out all the keys in my body so I try it. Always the hate an anger my last resort. Is heart breaking... but... it works.
Oh my god what a journey! Bless you Levine and all of you guys 🙏
you are a.mazing. thank you very much sir.🌸❣
It's amazing your technique did change my life. Thanks 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
How did it change ur life? U don't go into freeze mode anymore?
Rage is held in the jaw. In Core Energetics, we would have the client bite on a twisted hand towel and growl as we pulled on the ends of the towel! Those were the days!!!
What is core energetics? If someone has tension in the jaw, can it be stuff other than rage?
I’ve got so much built up rage, and no idea what to do with it so I simply go into shutdown mode.
@@cassieopia532 ..you don't verbally vent to a friend?
@@sweetbeepI’m in this position but my TMJ is so bad I can barely speak. So I can’t express my anger or act on it
@@joedimaggio3146 ... Did rage cause it?
My father wanted to kill me when I was a kid, so now I get it why I store the "I'll kill you" energy inside of me just in case of..
Wow... i mean honestly I've felt really inappropriate anger before and trying to suppress it, i also thought of biting the dude who upset me! Very visceral, my lizard brain was activated that day for sure.
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I'm a little confused how a locking of the jaw is part of the freeze response. I get that he was stuck, that his jaw was freezing, but how is this tied to the physiology of the freeze response? Is it the fear of killing someone that made him go into a dorsal vagal response? Is the polyvagal theory useful here?
I am not an expert but as far as I know responsible are neural pathways in the brain. It is learned, observed somewhere. Probably his father or some other figure of authority tensed their jow in response to anger. This time the impulse to represss was so strong that it got "stuck". Although the threat is gone the brain fires the neural pathway of represion again and again.
When we're traumatized/terrorized, we tend to freeze - parts of our body do too. Sometimes it's in the hands - have you ever seen someone with fingers locked in a claw like position? So, it's not always the jaw, it's just that some part of our body gets locked in a freeze position, just the way our psyche does. Arthritis is an example. I'm not sure that ALL arthritis is due to the freeze response, but it's possible. Anything stuck - even the diaphragm where it's difficult to take a deep breath, is an manifestation of the freeze response that's been locked in the body due to our inability to express the terror in the moment it occurred. Make sense? The jaw is primarily anger unexpressed. Often when we heal, we have to experience those emotions that we didn't experience at the time.
Sphynx so, like, anger wasn’t an option (part of a sympathetic, fighting response) and he went into a dorsal vagal response, locking his jaw to keep him as safe as he could be in the situation, yeah?
@@boolena Yes, exactly. Any time we can't express an emotion in the moment, it can get locked in the body via the sympathetic dorsal vagal response, creating pain and/or disease.
Let's try to make things simple (as they are :). Polyvagal theory says: Your body has a system to respond (sympathetic) and relax (parasympathetic). Main PHYSICAL transmitter of information for your response or relax state is the vagus nerve. (that also has the "dorsal" - meaning "back" part ..) Through which part of the vagus nerve does the info travel in which moment - that is less important. (and REMEMBER it's a "theory"!) What IS important is how a person adapts to trauma - usually this means a combination of sensation + intention + beliefs - in this particular case - blood rushing into his head + "I'm gonna bite his head off!" (or something similar) + "No, that would make me a bad person / put me in jail.." (or whatever belief the man had). So (whatever part of) his vagus is just transmitting the combination of all that information. Naturally, the energy + meaning gets blocked exactly where intended. And that's where you unblock it and release it from.
What about long term freeze like about not wanting to put yourself out there to date???
Examine "not wanting". Is it a belief created after some traumatic event? "Freeze" manifests itself not only in your physical, but also in your emotional being. You might identify it as a lack of energy, vitality, poor focus, not having a sense of purpose, not feeling motivated ..
Oh, that's now always a bad thing. I made a conscious choice to do that once, spent years on my own learning who I really am, doing healing therapies and found such intense joy on my own I thought I'd never bother again. At that very point, I met the man who is now my husband. Think about whether your deeper self is asking for your attention and affection. When you're feeling love for who you are, I swear it attracts wonderful people and situations.
I missed the concept od nutrition, when trauma happened..example person with narcolepsy get droped jaw..sensation become because of huge adrenalin and cortisol...the brain cant operate, period. Inflamation has to Lower..with food..
Dental caries are an evolutionary response to 'not being allowed to bite'
True! German New Medicine gets it right!
The urge to bite as a response to stress 😬
I think pranayam can help with this? I do think so.
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Sometimes, when i am alone in night, i freeze. It happened several times. Sometimes when i am in the freeze condition, i hallucinate or hear uncommon things. No emotional incidents. Its just because of fear.Can you please help me.
I'm stuck in freeze. It's awful.
What is happening at the preganglionic, postganglionic, nicotinic, muscarinic, acetylcholine and acetylcholinesterase during a freeze response ?
Hello, I read your book but don't think I still have an answer for my problem.I am afraid if panic attacks and I had one in the bathtub and then I spend 3 weeks worrying about having another panic attack.The fear was tremendous and now I am traumatised that this fear is hurting me and I can't handle anymore fear..I do breathwork and TRE so I release quite some energy but still the fear/thought still comes.What should I do?I realise it's not only the energy...but the thought as well..?
Panic disorder is exactly that. The fear of having another panic attack. When I was first diagnosed, I refused to sleep. I was scared of having one in my sleep and dying. I didn't leave my house for two years. Meditation and dancing are what healed me. It helped me dig deep and exhale.
Dr. Peterson has a recent video on anxiety and panic attacks ruclips.net/video/y6CWlDJioX4/видео.html
I have had a few myself and they're a nightmare. I have found some relief in having green drinks every day and removing some stimulating and acidic things from my diet. Also look into stretches for the psoas. That's a primary storage depot for stress and anxiety, so breathing deeply while releasing that muscle can help so much as well. Kundalini yoga has some marvelous sets using breath techniques for healing, they helped me so much I became a teacher. :)
Research Elkhart Tolle on FEAR/ Anxiety...... he is very good @ explaining how to deal with it......I too have ups & downs...... but, I have learned to deal with it, WHICH takes away its Power over me......( kind a like a child that thinks there’s a monster under their bed, and truly believe it!!!, or a FEAR of dogs, etc.....).... it IS THE THOUGHTS that are stressing you...... & your thoughts are NOT You.....think of them as clouds or better yet Stinky farts..... you will laugh when you do this...... It is our perception of the “ WHAT IF”.....instead think SO WHAT! I WILL DEAL w/ it IF it EVER happens, but it will not take My Joy/ life away from me TODAY.......❤️ get out of Your head abt YOURSELF.....help someone, go do a activity that uses concentration..... it will ease up you thought loop......I can break an intrusive thought but doing a MATH EQUATION in my head..... your brain cannot do both at same time.......( let the FEAR catch you.......it is like SMOKE - poof! Scared but it does no harm......just tell yourself, I am fine it’s just a FEELING....,.You can also hack your subconscience by telling it that it is not FEAR you are feeling it is nervous EXCITEMENT!!! Brain does not know difference...... have you ever watched a scary movie and got so intense and got scared and jumped? That’s because your mind really thinks it’s happening same as a dream or a nightmare........YOU CAN control your mind....... believe ( look up hypnotized by Zach) he is amazing..... Free on RUclips.....he has vids on FEAR, CONFIDENCE, SMOKING& anxiety.......
Wow this was my same situation. After my panic attack I was scared to sleep or eat or function at all. I lived in fear 24/7. It ruined my life. How did you get over this?
Louise Hay says jaw problems is anger, resentment and desire for revenge
If you freeze solid, no speech, no movement, you may want to research tonic immobility. Peter Levine has ignored people with dissociative disorders.
Crappy childhood fairy her channel is about recovering from trauma she says stamping feet writing down your stress wash hands write down problems and mediate these things release the freeze response
@@laurenpaterson3475 ???
@@laurenpaterson3475washing hands???
A Jaw Promotion so to speak :)
Who does he mention at 1:30, about armoring? I was very curious to know more.
Wilhelm Reich I think.
Fear
dissociatie?
I have TMJ but I don’t feel like biting anyone xD
I was C-PTSD in a field of cannibalism my tiger store bags I recovered her hands in a shopping bag.🐾
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This sounds like German New Medicine. Well it si exactly German New Medicine.
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The Hannibal Lector Syndrome (THLS)?
Riveting.... hahaaaaaa
I see no indication of a freeze response in this story? What is he on about? (as in freeze-flop-and-drop)
(And the freeze response is contentious - research shows it's more like a "pause to take in and decide the best response" )
The client inhibits his emotional expression (because? he fears the consequences of speaking up? or he lacks the skills to express himself in an effective way that gets the message across while bring true to his feelings) - and then gets stuck in that emotional inhibition reflex pattern (which ALWAYS has much more history to it than this single episode).
Why does Peter Levine think is has created something new?
This is all well covered in the origins of behaviour therapy - particularly in Andrew Salter's Conditioned Reflex Therapy (possibly the starting point of behavioural therapy).
Salter integrated Jacobson's Progressive Muscle Relaxation (Tension Release) with Auto-Hypnosis (teaching self-hypnosis) and the expression of emotion - proposing that excess inhibition (better word than suppression) is the cause of all neurosis.
Just teach them how to relax the jaw, how to spot tension and release it - and how to practise self-expression and conscious disinhibition.
Simpler and faster, more parsimonious explanation - and you can embed (embody) and generalise the changes very rapidly through hypnosis (imagery rehearsal and generalisation suggestions).
IF the issue is coming from not being able to handle a particularly social situation I HOPE that Mr. Levine spent 1-2 sessions on social skills/assertiveness training - e.g. rehearsing how he would have liked to have handled that challenging situation. And ensuring those new assertive skills are well embedded, embodied and generalised.
And of course that is working with "the energy" - i.e. helping the client learn how to work with the natural arising emotions in socially effective ways.
But one gets no sense of how the therapist actually helps the client with daily problem solving of social situations (which he claims gave arise to the jaw tension)
Lol, he never claims to have invented all of this and the specific topic of this very short video is releasing a physical stored manifestation of the freeze response we either consciously or unconsciously are holding onto.
@@catherineshaw1122 is dissociation is due to freeze response? i am stuck in dissociation from a long time. not able to find any way to get out of it.
@@ankushsingla4546 most likely, yes. That would make sense.
@@catherineshaw1122 you know any thing that helps in that?
@@ankushsingla4546 I suppose that will vary greatly depending upon the individual. For me, kundalini yoga and Kest yoga have healed my para sympathetic nervous system tremendously.
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Interesting - but this isn't really helpful is it?
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