My father was an architect and would bring me to jobs as a kid. I always hung out with guys like you and learned a ton while really enjoying it. I have lots of respect for the knowledge and skills you bring to your customers.
Really nice video. I'm having the same problem with not hot enough water from the coil. I'm going to try your solution of slowing down the flow to the coil. Thanks. I've seen some of your other videos on Riello burners. It is always a pleasure to watch you work. Thanks 😊
I had this issue with mine for years. I had two boiler drains on my coil that I could pump vinegar through it to clean out the scale. (I have hard well water) .That would work well for a couple months. I have since put in a rheem water softener and haven’t had an issue since. My water pressure has never been so good . Wish I would have done it 14 years ago.
Great video I usually try to sell the owner into a storage tank or a gas maybe electric water heater whichever would be more cost effective to them other than a gas condensing piece of garbage Most don’t realize the energy it takes to make hot water with a tankless setup
Steve you should see if you could set up the "thanks" button. I see some guys on here have it and then you can click on it and like donate money through a comment kind of like a super chat on a live stream. I've learned pretty much everything I know about HVAC from watching your videos, I'm maintaining a facility with five gas boilers all off of what I have learned from you.
Those tankless coils, does the boiler have to stay hot constantly in order for that thing to work? Seems like an indirect hot water tank would work better and run the boiler a lot less.
Interesting question. So the indirect HW tank is how large, at least 40 gallons, or more? How hot must that water be maintained at 125-140 degrees? I'm not sure. How often is the boiler going to be cutting on and off, how much oil would be used, to maintain that temperature in the tanK? What range must the aquastat be set at to maintain the much smaller amount of water in the boiler, how much oil would be used, to keep the boiler hot enough to provide suitable HW supply from the coil? I don't know. Both methods use similar coils don't they, with similar problems?
@@bigpardner The indirect is by far the more efficient way to make hot water. Better insulation, longer run times instead of several short cycles, the list goes on and on.
👍 I like the way you troubleshoot to solve and fix issues. You always find the problem and fix, not like other Hvac tech's how try yo sale you a new unit rather then find the problem and fix it. Great job, by the way what is your name? I been watching your videos for a while and never got your name. Have a Happy Holiday and be safe
Garbage. Nothing compares to a soldered joint that will last a lifetime. The o rings in those press fittings will surely fail. O rings don't last forever
Hey Steve... it's truly a PLEASURE watching a MASTER HVAC and PLUMBER at work ! Thank you for posting all your videos. You truly are a life saver for all your customer/clients... Someday Miss Molly will take over for you and it will be YOU running around the Coffee table Playing, "Catch Me if You can!!" :)
Dear RUclips: could you please stop with the unskippable 6 minute ads every 4 minutes? it would be very appreciated by those of us who can't afford to pay for RUclips premium. Thanks.
@@donhorn548 Yeah thats understandable and i support channel ads im a NoPixel GtaVRP Twitch partnered streamer im fully dependent on the ad revenue but for some reason RUclipss Ad Analytics thought is was necessary to play 3 2 minute "unskippable" ads every 4 mins that wound up being longer than the video itself literally would watch 4 minutes of Steve's video then 6 minutes of ads that could not be skipped.
Depends on the location and what oil prices are doing. Right now yeah electric hot water might be a little cheaper, but I have electric hot water and it really adds to my electric bill. I've got a buddy with oil hot water and he may be only burns 50 gallons all summer
What would it cost a year to keep a propane or electric HW tank of 40-60 gallons heated to what, 125-140 degrees? Compare that to the cost of keeping a much smaller amount of boiler water heated to maybe 160-180 degrees year round considering that part of the heating season the boiler would be hot most of the time anyway. Not that the HW would be completely "free" during the heating season as domestic HW would be consume some energy. I don't jnow the answers but don't see how the more modern indirect HW tanks heated by the boiler would be any better.
Steve, we need another very unusual plumbing job from Hell. You know, it’s that time of the year when the ghosts, ghouls, witches and goblins attack the plumbing in people’s houses. Maybe some kind of shitt*r from Hell will appear on the scene to stir up a little trouble. 😁
well at least they don't have to spend a fortune on an indirect heater you should try some small drills with wire brush for cleaning fittings and the pipe and a little reamer for ends of pipe makes cleaning everything to solder a lot quicker
I lived with a tankless coil for decades. Showers were fine. Washing hands and such was fine. But trying to fill the tub was super difficult. Would have it trickling out the spigot and then turn it off completely to let the boiler catch up, then run it at a trickle again. Now with my tank, can just fill the tub with hot water full blast, and have to add some cold water to cool it down.
@@ranger178 still doesn't make sense to me..he's on a well.. has a relief valve there .than he closes the cold valve to the tempering valve..so ur saying the mix can flow back threw the tempering valve and blow the relief?..think that relief was a waste unless I'm missing something
@@a-damgrubeer8527 i believe the idea is you can have boiler overheat the domestic water if it malfunctions and boil it even, I am not sure how their well is set up might have check valve to keep it full of water, so pressure has no place to go
Steve, I have a small oil fired boiler. Its old so I can't read the BTU, but its a small home. But on the back of the boiler the nozzle size says it should be 1.25 Gallons per hour. And that seems extremely high for such a small boiler and small home. I have a tech scheduled for my yearly maintenance on the 19th. Should I tell him to put somethin smaller in, especially with heating oil at $4.69/gallon.
i like running smaller nozzles .. all round they work better . usally boiler can fire 3 nozzles depends on btu load . i have house out there call for a 2.10 nozzle running a .85 never had a call back .usally the oil companys will want to run bigger nozzles to sell more oil
Where’s the trouble shooting? You just seem to throw parts at stuff and hope it works. It obviously worked well for many years, what changed to stop that? What if the nozzle is half plugged? You won’t have the proper heat getting to the exchange.
These tankless jobs are kind of pieces of shit, in my opinion. They rot easy, and no delivery. If you’ve got an oil boiler, I would krecommend an indirect.
My father was an architect and would bring me to jobs as a kid. I always hung out with guys like you and learned a ton while really enjoying it. I have lots of respect for the knowledge and skills you bring to your customers.
Really nice video. I'm having the same problem with not hot enough water from the coil. I'm going to try your solution of slowing down the flow to the coil. Thanks. I've seen some of your other videos on Riello burners. It is always a pleasure to watch you work. Thanks 😊
I had this issue with mine for years. I had two boiler drains on my coil that I could pump vinegar through it to clean out the scale. (I have hard well water) .That would work well for a couple months. I have since put in a rheem water softener and haven’t had an issue since. My water pressure has never been so good . Wish I would have done it 14 years ago.
Wow that grinder is wicked! No guard and a oversize cutting wheel, totally old school
Nice seeing Molly & Mr. Steven working together... Good job
Keep at it.. USA 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🙏
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Great video
I usually try to sell the owner into a storage tank or a gas maybe electric water heater whichever would be more cost effective to them other than a gas condensing piece of garbage
Most don’t realize the energy it takes to make hot water with a tankless setup
Steve solders just as fast as the guys using pro press.
Steve you should see if you could set up the "thanks" button. I see some guys on here have it and then you can click on it and like donate money through a comment kind of like a super chat on a live stream. I've learned pretty much everything I know about HVAC from watching your videos, I'm maintaining a facility with five gas boilers all off of what I have learned from you.
Dripping water is so soothing to hear.
I bet that coil plate is rotted too.
Howdy Steve and Molly
I have this system connected to only the heating baseboard in my house. How do you bleed the air out after draining and repairs?
Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍
why would you put that relief on that line, makes no sene
Those tankless coils, does the boiler have to stay hot constantly in order for that thing to work? Seems like an indirect hot water tank would work better and run the boiler a lot less.
Interesting question. So the indirect HW tank is how large, at least 40 gallons, or more? How hot must that water be maintained at 125-140 degrees? I'm not sure. How often is the boiler going to be cutting on and off, how much oil would be used, to maintain that temperature in the tanK? What range must the aquastat be set at to maintain the much smaller amount of water in the boiler, how much oil would be used, to keep the boiler hot enough to provide suitable HW supply from the coil? I don't know. Both methods use similar coils don't they, with similar problems?
@@bigpardner The indirect is by far the more efficient way to make hot water. Better insulation, longer run times instead of several short cycles, the list goes on and on.
👍 I like the way you troubleshoot to solve and fix issues. You always find the problem and fix, not like other Hvac tech's how try yo sale you a new unit rather then find the problem and fix it. Great job, by the way what is your name? I been watching your videos for a while and never got your name. Have a Happy Holiday and be safe
steve, what do you think of the new method of copper crimping pipes vs the old school method of sweating ? just curious....
Garbage. Nothing compares to a soldered joint that will last a lifetime. The o rings in those press fittings will surely fail. O rings don't last forever
@@user-zl1bh2gk1b Thanks, I can solder pipes all day long. I wont waste my money on a temporary fitting !!!
I got an education on tankless hot water coils on this one Steven! Like you say, "Every day is a school day."
Hey Steve... it's truly a PLEASURE watching a MASTER HVAC and PLUMBER at work ! Thank you for posting all your videos. You truly are a life saver for all your customer/clients... Someday Miss Molly will take over for you and it will be YOU running around the Coffee table Playing, "Catch Me if You can!!" :)
Great job Steve, sweating pipes like a pro.
Great Job 🔥Where Is Molly She’s Stil Wants To Play Catch Me And She Not With You Today🐶
Dear RUclips: could you please stop with the unskippable 6 minute ads every 4 minutes? it would be very appreciated by those of us who can't afford to pay for RUclips premium. Thanks.
The ads are income for Steve
@@donhorn548 Yeah thats understandable and i support channel ads im a NoPixel GtaVRP Twitch partnered streamer im fully dependent on the ad revenue but for some reason RUclipss Ad Analytics thought is was necessary to play 3 2 minute "unskippable" ads every 4 mins that wound up being longer than the video itself literally would watch 4 minutes of Steve's video then 6 minutes of ads that could not be skipped.
Hi Steve do you service in Cumberland
That boiler has some serious rot around the coil plate.
Many of them do. The tankless coils are notorious for it
Wouldn't it be cheaper to have a hot water heater than to run a boiler year round just for hot water? Or is it more efficient than I think.
Depends on the location and what oil prices are doing. Right now yeah electric hot water might be a little cheaper, but I have electric hot water and it really adds to my electric bill. I've got a buddy with oil hot water and he may be only burns 50 gallons all summer
@@waffalobill 50 gallons multiply by the cost of oil a gallon on the day of fill up
@@jw404 thought it said $50 not 50 gallons
What would it cost a year to keep a propane or electric HW tank of 40-60 gallons heated to what, 125-140 degrees? Compare that to the cost of keeping a much smaller amount of boiler water heated to maybe 160-180 degrees year round considering that part of the heating season the boiler would be hot most of the time anyway. Not that the HW would be completely "free" during the heating season as domestic HW would be consume some energy. I don't jnow the answers but don't see how the more modern indirect HW tanks heated by the boiler would be any better.
@@bigpardnerthe indirect doesn’t need to be constantly heated to a certain temp whereas the tankless could require the boiler to always maintain temp
Steven, have a nice day.
Good Enough for that neighborhood !
Steve, we need another very unusual plumbing job from Hell. You know, it’s that time of the year when the ghosts, ghouls, witches and goblins attack the plumbing in people’s houses. Maybe some kind of shitt*r from Hell will appear on the scene to stir up a little trouble. 😁
cut in a set up to acid wash the domestic coil.
Love your videos Steve. Can you use your Bluetooth temp probes to show temperature difference of the pipes? Thanks and keep making them videos.
I grew up with ice cold well water and a tankless in an oil boiler. Not a good combo!
Sounds like it just needs a circulating pump
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Once again another kick ass video Steve! 💯💥👍👍☝️👌
well at least they don't have to spend a fortune on an indirect heater
you should try some small drills with wire brush for cleaning fittings and the pipe and a little reamer for ends of pipe makes cleaning everything to solder a lot quicker
Hi Steve
I have to assume he doesn't understand the reason behind lead free solder.
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I lived with a tankless coil for decades. Showers were fine. Washing hands and such was fine. But trying to fill the tub was super difficult. Would have it trickling out the spigot and then turn it off completely to let the boiler catch up, then run it at a trickle again. Now with my tank, can just fill the tub with hot water full blast, and have to add some cold water to cool it down.
4:00 you said it dont have a water pressure relief valve but it does have one on the right side ! Look closely
he meant on the domestic hot water pipe for full water pressure the one on side of boiler is for heating system pressure of 30 psi max
@@ranger178 still doesn't make sense to me..he's on a well.. has a relief valve there .than he closes the cold valve to the tempering valve..so ur saying the mix can flow back threw the tempering valve and blow the relief?..think that relief was a waste unless I'm missing something
@@a-damgrubeer8527 i believe the idea is you can have boiler overheat the domestic water if it malfunctions and boil it even, I am not sure how their well is set up might have check valve to keep it full of water, so pressure has no place to go
@@ranger178 ur talking about a T and P and he only installed a pressure relief.. there's always a relief on a well system..
Great fix
Steve, I have a small oil fired boiler. Its old so I can't read the BTU, but its a small home. But on the back of the boiler the nozzle size says it should be 1.25 Gallons per hour. And that seems extremely high for such a small boiler and small home. I have a tech scheduled for my yearly maintenance on the 19th. Should I tell him to put somethin smaller in, especially with heating oil at $4.69/gallon.
i like running smaller nozzles .. all round they work better . usally boiler can fire 3 nozzles depends on btu load . i have house out there call for a 2.10 nozzle running a .85 never had a call back .usally the oil companys will want to run bigger nozzles to sell more oil
Oh my gawd there's no guard on that grinder Steve RUclips safety police!!
Haha
run great blades and dont be a pussy
Time for a new coil?
with the leaks all around boiler probably time for a new boiler
Steve, she's a Crusty One Momma!
Where’s the trouble shooting? You just seem to throw parts at stuff and hope it works. It obviously worked well for many years, what changed to stop that? What if the nozzle is half plugged? You won’t have the proper heat getting to the exchange.
its called experience dumb dumb
I had a customer like that I wound up putting 50 gallon gas water A O Smith 🙃 did away with the tank less coil
Coil relief valve
These tankless jobs are kind of pieces of shit, in my opinion. They rot easy, and no delivery. If you’ve got an oil boiler, I would krecommend an indirect.