The British-led Tank Mission on Russia’s Border
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Correction on the French:
3:24 An SGTIA from the 13th Alpine Chasseur Battalion replaced the 4th Company SGTIA from the 7th Alpine Chasseur Battalion in November 2022. It'd be more accurate to say that the 7e BCA company was part of the 1 Royal Welsh rotation while the 13e BCA company was part of KRH's. There was confusion because 7e BCA's 3rd Company had deployed there in March 2022 as an emergency due to the invasion of Ukraine (France's formal contribution was going to be relieved by the Danes). This company was relieved by the 7e BCA's 4th Company in June 2022, so it was an odd cycle
3:31 About 14 VHM armored personnel carriers (the French version of the articulated Bandvagn 210 Mk II) are also deployed. They're mainly used by mountain troops.
do vids about Estonian defence forces and the Estonian land forces and about their organizations armaments etc
So rad
Can you please do a video on US Air Cavalry?
Just a small correction: in 1:05 you used the flag of Czech Republic instead of Slovakia's.
do not forget all the logistics France involved during mission LYNX and / or AIGLE. You mention it for Denmark but not for France
I love the inclusion of the Icelandic PR guy. It's exactly what every battlegroup needs.
Mandatory icelandic PR operator to every battlegroup.
"It aint much but its honest work"
well iceland doesn't actually have a military just a coast guard and some armed police.
Iceland *Sends 1 civilian
Iceland: "I'm doing my part!"
what % of their total armed forces is that one guy though?
@@johncmousley Approx 95%
@@johncmousley iceland does not have a military.
@@TheBooban Iceland is green and Greenland is covered with ice.
Best defence against air attacks: a sign saying
Iceland that way ---->
@@johncmousley That one guy is even more than the Icelandic armed forces have, because they don't exist. Iceland doesn't have a military.
Im from Estonia and can confirm that without NATO we wouldnt be here
Meil vaja rohkem lapsi siin eestis!
@@lembitmoislane. nojah
We got your back bro
Well U have been there before NATO
@@ahmedhamma7455 but without NATO we would be the same as chechnia, georgia, and ukraine
Iceland also contributed with a C-130 cargo plane which helped supply the exercise as well as taking part in it. It's a huge contribution for this tiny island nation which doesn't have a military of it's own.
Well done Iceland.
Awesome, I had wondered how these NATO Battlegroups worked, and now here's a nice succinct breakdown
Wonder what Russians think
@@user-lp7wo7og4xthey mostly brainwashed
@@user-lp7wo7og4x They're too busy dying in Bakhmut to know fortunately
i'd like to see the nuts&bolts of how supply works at such a battalion level mishmash of units.
@@cladglas particularly that. Logistics are life and death matter
Point of clarity: at 2:22, the soldier is from the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards (SCOTS DG), not the Scots Guards. (If anyone cared)
I played a few games of rugby with the Royal Welsh and have nothing but high praise for them. An extraordinary group of lads. Greeting from Estonia!
I would love to see the same type of video for the other NATO deployements !
There was a little error listed in the pinned comment, so I might have to make a quick correction video that goes into what the French are doing in Eastern Europe
@@BattleOrder it's ok my dear friend. I speak for France : you have been very loyal until now. You are forgiven.
But of course if you still want to make another video about the french go for it 😇
for the Lithuanian EFP Battlegroup, germany provides an reinforced mechanised infantry bataillon (3 companys of mech infantry in Marder IFV´s reinforced with 1 or 2 leopard 2A6M/A7 squadrons, Artillery and Air Defense, engineering etc, wich are then supported by a few other elements from other NATO partners)
@@florian6259 you speak for France? Gtfo 🤡
@@redacted5035 Kestuveu
Great as always! A very armor focused BG, looking forward to the other EFP BGs!
I feel like they should have more mechanized or motorized infantry if they don't have that support from the Estonian army already
@@jimmothy3012well at the beginning he pretty much said that they got men but no tanks, so they mostly send armored groups. Also Russia is very heavy on APCs, IFVs and tanks so MBTs and ATGMs are pretty much the best deterrent outside of an overwhelming air superiority
@@maxaudet5177Your right but I feel like they should still have a bit more infantry
@@jimmothy3012 they're integrated into Estonian forces wich is almost exclusively comprised of infantry may it be motorised or mechanized, we're only providing what they lack so they have an all around efficient defense force
@@jimmothy3012 but I get what you're saying
I think a video on Estonia's new Division Organisational Structure would be of interest
Yessssssssss
Yes but best he waits a while first. It’s very new and the organization is very confusing. (I.e the Artillery battalion which last year was in First Brigade is now listed as Divisional. This results in cases where second battalion has indirect fire support, while First doesn’t.). Not sure if the Battlegroup would be split from First Brigade and put in the British Brigade. So let’s please wait until Kaitseväe Diviis has it’s organization in solid stone.
@@lembitmoislane. Võime niimoodi ootama jääda. Palju asju mis praegu juhtub, Pevkur isegi ütles nädal või kaks tagasi, et mõtlevad juba tanki brigaadi tulevikus luua (pärast õhukaitse ja pikkamaa suurtükki välja arendamist (arvatavasti ta mõtles selle all veelgi juurde HIMARS'e, ja siis neid PrSM 'e mille programist Eesti on kaasas)).
Nii et lähi tulevik (u4-5 a) toob palju huvitavat.
Can I have a link to learn more?
@@lembitmoislane. There are two artillery battalions, no? 15th and 25th, both under the division I thought? Iirc the 25th will be reconstituted with K-9s
Canadian troops are also deployed in Lithuania in addition to Latvia
I'm guessing the flag was representing leadership of that mission, for instance Estonia's mission is led by the brits but he pointed out that France and Denmark also had people there. Latvia is the Canadian led mision but there are other countries involved just like there are canadians in Lithuania.
Which units and what's is size. Company?
Great video! I love the fact that denmark was mentioned in the BG for once. I would also love if you could try to make a few more videos about the nordic forces. (DK, NO, SE, FI)
A few areas of critical military organizational structure that never get mentioned are training units, that would be interesting to see the organizational styles of Drill Sergeants’/Drill Instructors’ parent units.
Another military that has yet to receive mention is the Mexican Army. Our southern neighbor has quite a sizeable army, but little is publicly available in English source material about some of the nitty gritty of their TOE.
That French attachment looks pretty bad ass
You nailed the problem right there. Lots of bling for very little substance.
@@maszk9743 I dunno, we've seen how important small drones are
We fought the French for a thousands years, good soldiers. Worthy opponents and honourable too.
@@maszk9743 mais t'es français, pourquoi tu dis ça ?
@@ryklii9039 Je suis Légionnaire. Mais je ne suis pas en train de divulger des sécrets défenses quand je dis que l'Armée Française est dans un état horrible.
Makes me glad that the UK is putting its money where it's mouth is so to speak with the military showing that it still has teeth. Like basically entire army ready to go at a moments notice
Greetings from an Estonian! At 1:14 , that’s not very accurate. 2nd brigade does exist as well beyond just being an reservist brigade. They have active units such as the famous (at least here in Estonia), Kuperjanovi infantry battalion, an Combat support battalion, and brigade headquarters company. (So basically regiment strength at peace, brigade strength when called up).
Also for those interested, in 2022, the British upgraded their mission here so in case of crisis, they will quickly send in a brigade, which would operate within our Estonian army Division. (Created at the last of the last year)
Would love to see a video focusing on Italy’s division structures and whatnot
it would be so interesting since it's also my country. Unfortunately our army's structure down to the tactical level is still outdated since it changed it's organization ( lowering manpower, capabilities etc) to fight against an asymetrical enemy like in afghanistan or iraq and also thanks to the very low defence budget, the budget was rose only last year hopefully so it looks like the armed forces in general will start to change soon. Basically the armed forces ( only the navy and air force are ) aren't ready for a possible war.
Same. I think particularly interesting topics could be Cavalry Regiments (the ones that employ Centauros, for reference) or Bersaglieri Regiments (Dardo IFVs) - they're both quite specialized roles that respectively focus on reconaissance (as cav usually does) and quick, light but mechanized actions for the Bersaglieri.
Alternatively, Alpini Brigades and Regiments are also quite specific in their role (harsh terrain and conditions) and have very unique capabilities for which even the US comes here to train.
@@stralabastro142
"Basically the armed forces ( only the navy and air force are ) aren't ready for a possible war."
You've ground and gendarmerie force not just a navy/air force.
Love the thumbnail! Great video, as always!
Currently there is a cool exercise in France, the Orion operation exercise. It can be neat if make a video on it. Very nice video :)
As part of the EFP battlegroup and it dosent surprise me that we’ve been forgotten but there is a full bty of HVM stormers deployed there aswell and have been for years
Great video! Could you make one on the oragnization of eFPBG Latvia?
Quick pronunciation tip for "chasseur"
In french eur is always pronouced like "her" in english but without the -h. The chass part is spotless on the other hand
4:27
Iceland : we're gonna send 1 guy, that's the best we can do
He's there to write a saga about the operation.
Please, do videos about the others NATO battlegroups
All eight of them.
Loved the video @Battle Order! Can't wait for the next video man! Another "Smashing" Informative Breakdown on Military Forces around the World. The Challenger 2 is being replaced by the Challenger 3 slowly but surely as we speak and the British Ministry of Defence estimates that All Challengers will be the Challenger 3 by 2030. The Boxer is what's already replacing the FV 510 Warrior Infantry Fighting Vehicle which effectively makes it the British Army's Answer to the M1128 Stryker Family. I noticed that you have a video on the Stryker's so I'll look at that after I've caught myself up on what's going on in the Channel man!
I have been working on an "AI Forces Inventory Overhaul" Add-on for the Search and Destroy DLC (aka the Weapons DLC) for the Stormworks: Build and Rescue Community for about a Year Now. The main focus is to have the AI Forces get a Massive Buff to the Equipment they Use as it Currently stands at....
Air Force:
• Eurofighter Typhoons
• Eurocopter Tigers
• Bell UH-1Y Huey "Venom's"
Army:
• Main Battle Tank that looks like a Horrendous Cross between a Challenger 2 and a Leopard 2.
• Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Tank that looks like a Horrendous Cross between the Challenger or Leopard Marksman and the Shilka or Tunguska.
Navy:
• Fast Patrol Boat that's still unidentified.
• Destroyer that's still unidentified, but has Gun and Missile Armed Versions.
Local Community member @Toastery has gotten a Decent bit of improvement with his "Improved Conquest Mode" Add-on, but that's just a Slight improvement as you see the AI Flying A-10 Warthogs and F/A-18E Super Hornets and Some Fictional Ground Vehicle Designs as well as the Allowance of the Tanks and Ground Vehicles to Move and Possibly Hunt you down instead of just Spawn-Camping at every Capture Point. What I plan on having my "AI Forces Inventory Overhaul" Add-on do is to Bring the Military Forces of Nations like The United States of America, The United Kingdom (and the Commonwealth Nations of Canada, Australia and New Zealand), France, Germany, Italy, and the Russian Federation to the World of Stormworks and with the Release of the "Industrial Frontier Expansion" DLC I've now had to adjust those plans to include the Military Forces of the Middle East like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar, Kuwait or even (By Extension) Egypt. I'm hoping that there isn't a Jungle-Themed DLC around the Corner because then I'd have to include the Military Forces of The Philippines, Japan, South Korea, China, Taiwan and North Korea.
What are your thoughts on something like this man? Do you think Fighting AI Forces of Stormworks backed by Actual Military Forces will be a Challenge? Let me know what you think about it and I'll catch you in your next video!
As a Canadian I cant wait for a video on the Latvia EFP group lead by the Canadians soon!
cant wait for our victory parade in moscow - cheers!
You should do more of these EFP battlegroup breaksdown, would have been wild if you had done one video that had covered ALL of them.
There is also british electronic warfare there
Good Stuff, nice to see more different Nations.
called the mission Lynx in France I believe! glad to see le 2e Régiment de Dragons yee hoped you'd mention them
Would be awesome to see a video on the current operation Orion over in France, it's pretty extensive s I think it would make for a good video.
Lithuania just ordered new Leopard 2 to work with their Boxer wheeled infantry combat vehicles.
Great info, thanks
great video breakdown as always. idk if you'd be interested in this but I'd love to see a breakdown of American civil war units and if they differed between union and confederate.
Really loved this, it would be great if you have breakdowns on other NATO task forces (maybe including NATO Air Policing deployment in the Baltic?)
Fear the Chally!
1:25 , what does the vertical bar represent, on the left sife of the scouts Mechanised Battalion icon?
That they're equipped with a cannon-armed infantry fighting vehicle, as opposed to an APC
It mean it is a unit with ifv. If the bar is not there then it is a unit with apc.
@@neige9 In this case since we know what equipment they have the ones without a bar mean they are in an APC. But if we didn't know what equipment they had, just that they were armored infantry, the plain mechanized infantry symbol would be appropriate as the 'default' option.
Very good , no one has done this so clearly 👍🇬🇧
fantastic... do more of these especially all the baltics
Slight error: The Queens Royal Hussars should be the Kings Royal Hussars
I talk about both, but the bulk of the video is about the King's Royal Hussars BG rotation from Sep 22 - March 23: www.thedefensepost.com/2022/09/27/british-army-nato-efp-estonia/
The Queen's Royal Hussars replaced them in 2023: mncne.nato.int/newsroom/news/2023/the-queens-royal-hussars-prepare-to-take-the-helm-of-nato-efp-battlegroup-estonia
@@BattleOrder Thanks for that
Could you make a video about the German led Battleqroup? Would be very interesting.
I have a MA in strategic communications it is a degree that specializes in macro communication planning and coordination of pr, adv, and marketing efforts.
Respect to those guys training in that weather.
It is really hard functioning in those kinds of extreme conditions, let alone soldering.
So the Battlegroups depend on close cooperation with the Estonian infantry units right?
Yes they are under the command of Estonian HQ.
This is a very tasty junk of steel. I can't imagine how all those machines have to be repaired after first combat, especially the new models. Its all good on papper.
it is intresting to see what is in Estonia, my brother was recently rotated to Lithuania.
I feel like a breakdown of the dutch infantry corp would be cool
An update on the Ukraine invasion would be highly appreciated...thanx for the detailed video as always👌✌️
Please do more NATO stuff you're so good man
You should cover the Canadian led eFP Battlegroup Latvia!!
Very infantry light ... But I suppose it is meant to stop armour and I think this group would be more than capable in that role :)
Can you do one on the EFP in LV and LIT as well?
Will you do reviews of the other NATO FBGs in Latvia and other nations?
4:28 man I miss the ICRU (Iceland Crisis Response Unit)...
Iceland should man up and have a military. It’s the duty of every country to defend itself and not freeride on our alliance. Better they have a simple small battalion than nothing.
Edit: Also the ICRU was at best a paramilitary, peacekeeping force, not a fast reaction military unit.
wow Iceland is literally helping
English, Scots, Welsh, Danes, French and even Iceland ... giving me big North Sea Empire and King Canute vibes.
Anyone remember at the start of this war every “expert” saying the tank is finished, it’s obsolete, it’s done?
Will u do videos on other Efp battle groups
France has also a total SGTIA with Leclerc and VBCI in Estonia. Can you make the same video but for the French side?
Great video as always! So judging by the flags, I'm guessing Hungary is the only country that's leading it's own forward battle group?
Yes, initially that battle group was basically a Hungarian infantry battalion reinforced by a small number of supporting personnel from Croatia and a Stryker infantry troop (company) from the US
With that, it doesn’t sound like the battlegroup is really necessary. The Hungarians should just make their military bigger with conscription or something.
@@lembitmoislane. considering that hungary´s GDP is smaller than new york states gdp.... unlikely that this will happen soon.
Hungary is modernising its military with 44 new Leopard 2A7V´s and 200 KF-41 Lynx and that swallows a lot of their defense budget.
those eastern european partners have GDP´s that are smaller than some of germanies federal states (the 3 baltic states each are similar in economic power to the Saarland in germany)
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Well us Estonians have just 1,3 million and yet we can field an army division if called up, along with many thousands of national militia. Hungary has over nine million and a much larger economy. As well since Hungary is not as rich compared to rich Western Countries, there are benefits such as solider pay and other stuff not being as expensive. Hungary if they really wanted, could and should field a number of divisions (i.e though conscription and reserve units). It is better to have an army that can be large and can be in a conflict of attrition then having only few thousand top of the line soldiers who’ll be worn out quickly in any state to state war.
@@lembitmoislane. well, you need to be truthful in respect to army size:
Estonia has two very small infantry brigades as the standing army (and a few support elements of non relevant size).
230.000 reservists, wich first sounds alot, but those will not be equipped as mechanised or motorised infantry but as light infantry on foot and only got limited acess to weapons and equipment.
Its still 20% of the total population.
But overall this wont help much in a conflict with an enemy that can bring substantial amounts or armor.
(yes ukraine defendet itself with territorial defense units, but the hot combat around Kyiv for example was done by the Alpha Group Special forces unit of the national intelligence agency, the Special Forces of the Army and 2 already mobilised mechanised infantry brigades of Azov and a few other STANDING territorial defense units not the mobilised civilians.)
Are you in contact with the eFP brass, or was this an OSINT collection of sorts?
For this it’s open source
Can you do a video like that about all of the efp battalions? Or maybe only the ones pre Ukraine war
US also had a unit of 101 airborne in võru (south estonia) at the beginning of 2023
Sad part is that they will mostly serve as tripwire defences.
They'd eat and shite out whatever the Russians initially threw at them.. Considering the airpower and intel gathering resources in Eastern Europe. There's other multinational battlegroups across the baltics. Infantry reinforcements would be a few hours away by heavy airlift aircraft. A few days travel and you would have a shitload of US armour in the region.
Yes under-estimate your enemy, that'll go well.
Could you do a video on the British armoured infantry please? Thanks
Solid looking group.
Tapa is a pretty cool place, so is voru
1 active brigade with 1 NATO armored battalion attachment at the very edge of allied territories bordering the adversary, with a tenuous line of communication through Suwalki gap.
It takes special bravery to be in a ‘trip wire’ force.
It’s Two active Brigades, Second Brigade is active with one infantry battalion, support battalion, and command. As well the brigade can have it’s reservist battalions activated to full brigade strength. As well, above the two brigades is our own Estonian Division, and in the National Militia, 10-25 battalions worth of volunteers and older reservists.
The ruskies for sure would be trying to cut the B3 Baltics from Poland, although with the addition of Finland (and hopefully Sweden soon), the larger border will help. We all know how the Russians feel about fighting Fins - especially when the snow starts talking.
Warno music is soooo fitting for this content
5:41 homeboy is sleeeeeppyyy. Pulling security for hours on end will do that lol.
5:43 - What am I looking at? Ar first I thought it was a minigun but then I noticed that the "barrels" are just inbus screws and the ammo belt is full of blanks. And there's the very M2 looking sight.
Am I right when I assume it's an M2 blank fire device? The tiny muzzle hole in it would support the idea.
It's kinda hard to imagine why on Earth would someone design a 12.7 caliber blank firing minigun resemnling thing when 5.56 can do the trick just as well with the added benefit of the whole thing being lighter.
It's a blank firing device for a regular M2.
It looks more like it's trying to replicate a heavy machine gun, as the barrels don't really make sense like that... Maybe that's just how much assembly is needed to create a blank adapter for blanks that large and underneath is an entirely normal large caliber heavy machinegun.
Most guns especially large ones need blank adapters to let blanks cycle the action, lacking the pressure of the bullet in the barrel and the trapped gas behind it, and with such large bullets it'll need to be very sturdy and very firmly attached to the gun. This way no new gun is needed, just a device attached to it for this and then taken off later.
@@RobinTheBot The original "blank" device was built to shred a wooden projectile. The M2 is recoil operated but even the blank cartridge is powerful enough that the blank adapter has to be firmly attached to the barrel and remain centered on the bore. There is also the issue of retaining the balance of the barrel for proper operation. A blank adapter just attached at the end of the barrel will result in excessive wear on the under part of the barrel.
Its a 50 cal with recoil supressor so can stay on target at distance when something is moving, the same as yanks had on some of their PBR river boats in vietnam...
The British and French have a long rivalry, but if sh1t hits the fan we stand shoulder to shoulder! 👌
Fought for a long time against each other, but we're brothers by blood now. Amour from France
@@julmar9153 you see, us Brits think you're all tossers. But as equal tossers we can make a fine team 😂
Iceland sent one dude which i assume is for public relations.
Well of course, it's the one thing we are good at........Well that and making sure to not win Eurovision 🤣
Are you going to cover all of the NATO deployments you mentioned? If so you should go over their parent brigades they were attached to aswell
Probably not all but some of them.
Great video! Could you make video about NATO’s number two, the Turkish Armed Forces
It would be verry cool to see videos about the latvian lithuanian and istonian militaries
Can you do the ADF (video 9)
Shows that UK need to reform its Tank units to be reinforced Squadrons rather than regiments as the Regiment never deploys. I think 30 Tanks in a Heavy Squadron - 2 x Companies and a HQ. Then 144 could form 4 x Heavy Squadrons with the RTR ones being able to join to form a Heavy Brigade.
1st brigade is also mostly conscripts and reservists actually, only the scouts battalion is active duty.
Jah. See on sama 2. brigaadiga.
Wow, this almost looks a bit too armour-heavy, for a reinforced Battalion stationed all the way in the North. I'm guessing the pairing with the Estonian Scouts is because they are the professional portion of the Estonian Land Forces, and they can form hunter-killer teams with the scouts, since the Armoured Group appears to be very armour-heavy.
Given the Estonian Army has no tanks of its own but does have infantry, giving them an armored task force is plugging a gap on their force structure.
Infantry can be reinforced at short notice (unlike armour). Allied forces have conducted exercises specifically to demonstrate this capability - including Exercise Swift Response 21.
GReat video Thank you
Awesome 😎
Can you please do videos on the Romanian Armed Forces too? Thank you!
nice camo on the tank
that soundtrack
Don't mean to be a pain but you dont have the 1st battalion scouts gaurds on the picture I was in the scouts gaurds for 8 years sorry but just had to say love the video
Can you now do the same for the German LED battle group in Lithuania
They probably think they've been invaded by Germany and are planning counter attacks against german armour
Can you please improve the sound quality. The voice is like whimpering but with high volume
only Iceland understands how wars are won these days, so they sent an expert TikToker
Haha
Gotta love the brits, left the union but still supports sovereignty.
I’ve never really thought about it like that.. but yes the U.K. is playing war games directly on Russias border. :|
We are a great power, and Russia knows it, they fear us and we must keep it that way
0:07
uk: tank standing there *menacingly*
Estonia: unleashing the fires of hell on its target
France: aiming with murderous intent
Danemark: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SPIN TO WIN WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET ROTATED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Is this the first deployment of leopard 2a7's?
Yes
You should do more of these nato battle group
British Challenger battalion is interesting however this + deliveries in Ukraine is gonna stretch UK's Armor capacity to its maximum
What exactly are they going to use this armor against, if not deploying on exactly that territory for exactly this purpose?
KRH haven’t used tanks in years
4:28 Iceland has stripped their homeland defense bare.
@BattleOrder That is not Bulgaria’s flag (🇧🇬) at 1:01 but actually Italy’s (🇮🇹).
Because Italy leads the Battle Group deployed to Bulgaria.
@@BattleOrder Thanks for the clarification! Great video 💯
British noice