I've been a diehard Martin fanatic for years now. I used to have a yamaha apx500 that I absolutely hated. I refused to play yamaha for 15 years. This past Saturday I played a FGX800C and I now own it and I absolutely love it.
Extremely helpful video, answered most of my questions as I finally narrowed down to getting one of those two. As a bass player who's looking for a cheap-yet-quality acoustic guitar, I understood with your video why the FG800 suited my ears a bit better: I tend to also prefer warmer sounds for bass, to the point of playing especially precision basses with flat wounds and tone slightly rolled off. I still think the FG830 looks and sounds richer, but not to justify the price difference for me. One question: what's the comfort level like for taller players with large hands? Thanks again and greetings from Germany
Glad it was helpful! A dreadnought size is ideally comfortable for most people above 5.6 feet of height. So playability wise you won’t have any hinderances. FG800 is a great choice you are making especially if you like that sound. Thank you. Love from India ❤️
I’m looking to get my first guitar. I found both of these on the second hand market in my area. Both are listed at $250 but the fg800 is brand new never used while the fg830 is used but very well taken care of. Wasn’t sure which one I should go for or if one is easier to learn on or more versatile. Need some help one which one to go with.
Does it matter in laminated back and side guitars also? I own the YAMAHA FG820 laminated Mahogany B&S model and FGX830C laminated Rosewood B&S model and they do sound quite different. Their characteristics are also as you demonstrated. However, some of the local acoustics guitar builders in my country said laminated B&S would not contribute sound characteristics in the acoustic guitar, and only the solid B&S guitar will. Does Giant Guitar manufacture use all ply from the same wood for the laminate B&S? In my experience, the sound is quite different in regards to the wood even if it is laminated especially in Yamaha Guitars. Please share your experience about the tone difference in Mahogany laminated and Rosewood laminated B&S guitars.
The sound difference will be there. But the solid ones will feel like a substantial difference. So I would like to negate the fact that laminate B&S doesn’t have a sound difference.
Laminate is BETTER if you play in colder conditions, maybe going from your house to garage, or outside....or just being more wreckless with your instruments!! Solid wood guitars Can absolutely crack and have issues with fast temperature swings, they have to be kept in temperature/moisture controlled environments!!! I purchased a Martin sold body, and actually took it Back, and went with laminate because I play in my cold garage very often!
All solid guitar with sikta spruce top and mahogany back and sides vs solid (top-back) guitar with sikta spruce top and rosewood back and side , which one i should go for at same price? Does only laminated sides make that difference?
@@JohnsmusicIn @skiswudtheguitarshop3060 Sir, since I am from Darjeeling it's very cold during the winters and very moist during the monsoon, will Solid top guitars not face any issues with the weather? Which guitar has a better durability? Among F310, F370 and FG 800?
Fs830 is not available since a long time. FG830 is generally available but that is a dreadnought size. You can go for FS820. Price n link to buy: www.johnsmusic.in/products/yamaha-fs820-acoustic-guitar
@abhinabanath904 we have not found a sound difference with regards to Color. That being said every guitar sounds a tiny percentage different from each other (better is not the point as it’s subjective)
@abhinabanath904 we have not found a sound difference with regards to Color. That being said every guitar sounds a tiny percentage different from each other (better is not the point as it’s subjective)
Hi, I have epiphone J15EC acoustic/electric guitar. I just play for at home and with friends and am happy with the sound. But few weeks ago, I was in a music shop to help a friend to buy something and tried Yamaha guitar (cannot remember the model) but the price was around $500 aud. The sound was quite different than my epiphone guitar. It was rich and fuller. My curious question, do Yamaha guitars sound better than Epiphone for the same price range? I want to change my guitar Yamaha.
Yes Yamahas do sound fuller, richer and more balanced in this price range. The FG series is one of the best sounding series in Yamaha in the budget range.
In the future, please turn off the background music when playing an instrument. It is distracting and ruins one’s ability to hear the pure tonality and volume of the instrument. Thanks
Thanks for this awesome video.. i was really confused in FG series guitar range 800,820,830 and role of rosewood /mahagony in sound..thanks for clearing so many doubts. Could you also please suggest guitar under 30-35 range ! I am intermediate player...( Mostly play chords with vocals) should i get FG series or yamaha CPX series ! Or any other recommendation from your side.. right now i am using yamaha F370 and want to upgrade. Also need a Pickup -- which one would you prefer after market or preinstalled ! Thanks in advance❤
I have rosewood and mahogany guitars I prefer mahogany over rose wood the sound is much more balanced and I’m not a fan of binding especially around the necks of guitars but you can’t go wrong with a Yamaha acoustic guitar I’ve played an fg 150 green label for years now and it’s tone is much better then some pricy Martin’s
You provide an incorrect information because the fg800 has nato back and sides. The fg820 has the mahogany one. It makes sense if the 800 has more inferior sound compared to the 830 because nato is a cheap laminated wood
@@94SexyStang the back and sides are laminate on both, which means what you see is a paper thin piece of nice looking wood with a thick piece of poplar in the middle. it may affect tone slightly, but not as much as if they were made of solid rosewood/mahogany, because in the center is still a piece of poplar
If I order a guitar online, will you check all the setup first and adjust if required and then only ship? OR you will send a fresh piece unopened without checking? I have been warned by friends that guitar ordered online would usually come with a high action etc etc.
Yes we do a thorough setup before dispatch. When you are buying from our website, you are buying from our store! And all the guitars we dispatch are fresh out of the boxes.
Yes ...a LOT of Yamaha models are made in China ....NOW I will say to be HONEST ...the Japanese RED LABEL models sound and feel better .....BUT ...I would put the FG3 red label up against any 1000 guitar and its made in China!!!!
Yes, the Yamaha guitar's Iv'e dealing with over the years ( 60) have always been excellent, I didn't know that at time I got my first one, but since then the one's Iv'e bought have All been Excellent. Very consistent quality wise, and Iv'e found over that same pierod that wasn't Always true with other brands, even Martin had their bad pierods, different managers, with Slightly different priorities, however the Yamaha Corporation I don't think had those time's, simply because in my experience, the Consistancy has Always been excellent, regards Don from Hamilton NZ @@b.d.charles-nb2vg
Just Ole Don here again, to add to my previous comment, I recently brought and old FG 180 made in Taiwan (black Label) and though it's a Laminate Top instrument it is simply quite stunning sound/wise ( Google how they make their L/T acoustic's ) and you'll see why. 😊😊😊
Nope no Before It Was Made In Inndonasia Now It's Making In India if you from china With same Japanese Technology process Both Are Same sound No charges you will gate
Sir PLEASE 🥺 🤌🏻tell me which is the ONE best guitar among these as per your experience My requirement is value for money at 8k , best sound , best durability for 10+years , one time investment Yamaha fs80c or Saga sf600gc (grand auditorium) or Ibanez md39c or Cort af500c or Squier 150c
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Very good review. It's rare to find such a good one on YT.
Thank you, Kind Sir :)
This is a very good explanation of the differences in tonewoods on acoustic guitars .Thanks .
I like your explanation I can see the difference right away, unlike some peoples just to beat around the bush. Love it my friend!
Excellent presentation. Thank you!
I have the FG-830. I like Rosewood and like the binding on it. It looks better. Try an Orangewood. They aint bad. Nice video!
I've been a diehard Martin fanatic for years now. I used to have a yamaha apx500 that I absolutely hated. I refused to play yamaha for 15 years. This past Saturday I played a FGX800C and I now own it and I absolutely love it.
The apx are by far the worst yams. They usually make great guitars!
Extremely helpful video, answered most of my questions as I finally narrowed down to getting one of those two.
As a bass player who's looking for a cheap-yet-quality acoustic guitar, I understood with your video why the FG800 suited my ears a bit better: I tend to also prefer warmer sounds for bass, to the point of playing especially precision basses with flat wounds and tone slightly rolled off. I still think the FG830 looks and sounds richer, but not to justify the price difference for me.
One question: what's the comfort level like for taller players with large hands?
Thanks again and greetings from Germany
Glad it was helpful!
A dreadnought size is ideally comfortable for most people above 5.6 feet of height. So playability wise you won’t have any hinderances. FG800 is a great choice you are making especially if you like that sound.
Thank you. Love from India ❤️
Yamaha FGX800C or Cort core OC mahogany?
FGX800c for the bright bold sound and durability. Cort core oc for warm sound.
Great review, I love my Yamahas
To my ear fg830 sounds so good.
I’m looking to get my first guitar. I found both of these on the second hand market in my area. Both are listed at $250 but the fg800 is brand new never used while the fg830 is used but very well taken care of. Wasn’t sure which one I should go for or if one is easier to learn on or more versatile. Need some help one which one to go with.
Excellent video!
Estoy indeciso entre la fg800 o la cort core oc abeto ,pero no tengo la oportunidad de tocarlas en vivo ,cual escogerias tu? Hablando acusticamente
Does it matter in laminated back and side guitars also?
I own the YAMAHA FG820 laminated Mahogany B&S model and FGX830C laminated Rosewood B&S model and they do sound quite different. Their characteristics are also as you demonstrated.
However, some of the local acoustics guitar builders in my country said laminated B&S would not contribute sound characteristics in the acoustic guitar, and only the solid B&S guitar will.
Does Giant Guitar manufacture use all ply from the same wood for the laminate B&S?
In my experience, the sound is quite different in regards to the wood even if it is laminated especially in Yamaha Guitars.
Please share your experience about the tone difference in Mahogany laminated and Rosewood laminated B&S guitars.
The sound difference will be there. But the solid ones will feel like a substantial difference. So I would like to negate the fact that laminate B&S doesn’t have a sound difference.
Thank you for your answer!
it has 3ply lamination. Midle ply is white, not red(((
Laminate is BETTER if you play in colder conditions, maybe going from your house to garage, or outside....or just being more wreckless with your instruments!! Solid wood guitars Can absolutely crack and have issues with fast temperature swings, they have to be kept in temperature/moisture controlled environments!!! I purchased a Martin sold body, and actually took it Back, and went with laminate because I play in my cold garage very often!
800 is nato which is a variant of mahogany from the east but 820 series is actual mahogany.
All solid guitar with sikta spruce top and mahogany back and sides vs solid (top-back) guitar with sikta spruce top and rosewood back and side , which one i should go for at same price? Does only laminated sides make that difference?
Hey!!
Should I get a F310/F370 or FG 800?
I am a beginner and getting serious about practicing.
FG800 indeed
Better by miles !
Not even close.. get 800 series.. try to go for 830.. theres a big difference in them too
@@JohnsmusicIn @skiswudtheguitarshop3060 Sir, since I am from Darjeeling it's very cold during the winters and very moist during the monsoon, will Solid top guitars not face any issues with the weather?
Which guitar has a better durability? Among F310, F370 and FG 800?
Bro to fix a peizo pickup for yamaha fg830 which saddle type fits wide saddle or narrow saddle
Are the back and sides of the FG800 mahogany or nato?
Can u please tell me Which one is best... fs830 or fs820 ...and price for both ....
Fs830 is not available since a long time. FG830 is generally available but that is a dreadnought size.
You can go for FS820. Price n link to buy: www.johnsmusic.in/products/yamaha-fs820-acoustic-guitar
@@JohnsmusicIn thank you so much.... one last thing to ask ...which colour sound better .... Autumn burst or natural colour ? Please help me decide
@abhinabanath904 we have not found a sound difference with regards to Color. That being said every guitar sounds a tiny percentage different from each other (better is not the point as it’s subjective)
@abhinabanath904 we have not found a sound difference with regards to Color. That being said every guitar sounds a tiny percentage different from each other (better is not the point as it’s subjective)
great review bro
Hi, I have epiphone J15EC acoustic/electric guitar. I just play for at home and with friends and am happy with the sound. But few weeks ago, I was in a music shop to help a friend to buy something and tried Yamaha guitar (cannot remember the model) but the price was around $500 aud. The sound was quite different than my epiphone guitar. It was rich and fuller. My curious question, do Yamaha guitars sound better than Epiphone for the same price range? I want to change my guitar Yamaha.
Yes Yamahas do sound fuller, richer and more balanced in this price range. The FG series is one of the best sounding series in Yamaha in the budget range.
@@JohnsmusicIn thanks for the suggestion...I tested yamaha FGX800C FGX820C and FGX830C...i liked FGX820C sound...I think I will go for that
In the future, please turn off the background music when playing an instrument. It is distracting and ruins one’s ability to hear the pure tonality and volume of the instrument. Thanks
We have done so in our recent videos. This one was an accident. Apologies and we will take care of this next time.
what is the difference between the fg800c ?
Review cort GA5F pls
Hi Jhon Music, please tell what is the difference in FG830 made in Indonesia & Made in China one.
There isn’t any. Yamaha is not a brand to compromise its reputation.
@JohnsmusicIn I do agree, but guitars from China sound very hollow.
@@mayankmishra6531nope it's now making in india if u r from ind before was Indonesia no China made this ever.
@@DjToxicCreatz
Are you saying the FG 830/820/800 are not made in China?
@@BryanClark-gk6ie Fg made in indian series Not Launched yet. i' said About F Series
Thanks for this awesome video.. i was really confused in FG series guitar range 800,820,830 and role of rosewood /mahagony in sound..thanks for clearing so many doubts. Could you also please suggest guitar under 30-35 range ! I am intermediate player...( Mostly play chords with vocals) should i get FG series or yamaha CPX series ! Or any other recommendation from your side.. right now i am using yamaha F370 and want to upgrade.
Also need a Pickup -- which one would you prefer after market or preinstalled !
Thanks in advance❤
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I have rosewood and mahogany guitars I prefer mahogany over rose wood the sound is much more balanced and I’m not a fan of binding especially around the necks of guitars but you can’t go wrong with a Yamaha acoustic guitar I’ve played an fg 150 green label for years now and it’s tone is much better then some pricy Martin’s
Can you please Do a comparison with Fender CD60s or CC60s and Cort L100C
You provide an incorrect information because the fg800 has nato back and sides. The fg820 has the mahogany one. It makes sense if the 800 has more inferior sound compared to the 830 because nato is a cheap laminated wood
Why is there a background track while he is trying to demonstrate intricate guitar sound difference between the two wood used.
When the back and sides are laminated, imho your point about tone falls down when you are only talking about a different veneer.
100% agreed. However we do get this question very frequently and hence the video.
Very intetrsting video thank you a lot
Is it worth upgrading from yamaha fg820 to yamaha fg830? Is there a big difference in sound?
no they are going to be super close, it is better to save your money for an all solid wood guitar
they are 2 DIFFERENT guitars!!!...nothing is better......rosewood sounds Entirely different than Mahogany, Try them side by side.
@@94SexyStang the back and sides are laminate on both, which means what you see is a paper thin piece of nice looking wood with a thick piece of poplar in the middle. it may affect tone slightly, but not as much as if they were made of solid rosewood/mahogany, because in the center is still a piece of poplar
does fg 800 have trust rod
Yes. all Yamaha steel string guitars have truss rod.
If I order a guitar online, will you check all the setup first and adjust if required and then only ship? OR you will send a fresh piece unopened without checking? I have been warned by friends that guitar ordered online would usually come with a high action etc etc.
Yes we do a thorough setup before dispatch. When you are buying from our website, you are buying from our store!
And all the guitars we dispatch are fresh out of the boxes.
@@JohnsmusicInfor sure u do that dude. ihve also been thinking of buying from u guys
820 and 830 are better made with bindings and studs compared with 800, ,not only wih different material
Is yamaha from china or not because I bought a Yamaha fg830 today, but it says Yamaha Made in China
Yes ...a LOT of Yamaha models are made in China ....NOW I will say to be HONEST ...the Japanese RED LABEL models sound and feel better .....BUT ...I would put the FG3 red label up against any 1000 guitar and its made in China!!!!
All instruments in this price range are from China. You get recent Yamaha from Japan for 6K plus....
Yes, the Yamaha guitar's Iv'e dealing with over the years ( 60) have always been excellent, I didn't know that at time I got my first one, but since then the one's Iv'e bought have All been Excellent. Very consistent quality wise, and Iv'e found over that same pierod that wasn't Always true with other brands, even Martin had their bad pierods, different managers, with Slightly different priorities, however the Yamaha Corporation I don't think had those time's, simply because in my experience, the Consistancy has Always been excellent, regards Don from Hamilton NZ
@@b.d.charles-nb2vg
Just Ole Don here again, to add to my previous comment, I recently brought and old FG 180 made in Taiwan (black Label) and though it's a Laminate Top instrument it is simply quite stunning sound/wise ( Google how they make their L/T acoustic's ) and you'll see why. 😊😊😊
Nope no Before It Was Made In Inndonasia Now It's Making In India if you from china With same Japanese Technology process Both Are Same sound No charges you will gate
Hi bro
Please make review on Granada gs343
Please make a video on Enya x4 pro, It recently got listed on your website.
fg 800 back n side .. nato or meranti ..
The first string on yamahas is too bright on my feeling. It spoils sound alot.
Fgx 800 back n side nato
i like a warmer sound on an acustic if i want brightness i will play my electric
Hi bro best acoustic guitar under 15k
The 1.69" neck is a deal breaker. It should be a minimum of 1.75"
Why
Not enough room to move around the board and articulate. Perfect for a small woman with small hands, however.@@timthaler8805
@@Man_Cave
FG series is 1-11/16"
FS series is the smaller one.
Sir PLEASE 🥺 🤌🏻tell me which is the ONE best guitar among these as per your experience
My requirement is value for money at 8k , best sound , best durability for 10+years , one time investment
Yamaha fs80c
or Saga sf600gc (grand auditorium)
or Ibanez md39c
or Cort af500c
or Squier 150c