I don’t think it is “holy shopping”. I think it would be better to keep extra supplies in our pantry to provide for such times. Thank you for your thoughts. Many blessings
You are absolutely right. If we can provide for them, without shopping on the Sabbath, either by asking others to cooperate, as I have done many times, or by taking from our own supplies, it is best. But, if we cannot, or have not; then I believe God does not object to us helping; if the need cannot wait till sundown ... ☝️💓🥰
I'll throw my two cents in since I have first hand experience in this. My local church has on multiple occasions supplied food parcels. We keep a stock of non-perishable food that can be given out when needed. However, we have no choice but to buy fresh food when a call comes in for someone in need. At times, this call happens on the Sabbath when people have paid their rent for the week and there is nothing left over for food.
You know what you re speaking as if you re always doing right..what if you need to help someone in need and you are far from home? Do you need to go back first to your home to get the supplies in order to help? Tsk tsk
Remember the Pharisees wanted to literally murder Jesus for doing good on the Sabbath. That's the attitude of some "so-called" Sabbath keepers. They return tithes, offerings and gifts and lack compassion for the suffering. If the "Pharisee" was at Church, he/she wouldn't have seen Pst Bohr leaving with groceries. I can relate to Pst Bohr's testimony. It's not like people walk around with groceries hoping that a family has a need. And most members like far from the Church and the need is urgent and you can't wait till the sun sets.
How beautiful meeting the needs of people who are in need! Our Savoir worked on the Sabbath healing the sick. I will admit I like to have everything done by including something for us to eat I do warm it up if it's cold. And if I have unexpected I will prepare something for them. The Sabbath was made for me to commune with my heavenly father to be able to study at my leisure getting all that I want. I will need that for the rest of the week we are representatives for Christ we will need to have the holy Spirit to show love and compassion. And to be honest it's the only day of the week that I am able to truly rest from my labors.
Great answer, thanks pastors Stephen and pastor CA. I completely agree that we should do good on Sabbath. It is also important especially in my case as a church leader to set the correct example for our congregation. Irrespective if a person is a non Adventist or working voluntary, the stranger in your gates and even animals are included in the command and that is also why we should not neglect the day of preparation to make provision for unexpected visitors on Sabbath. However, still well answered.
@@cyprianpeters9110 quote----God said on the sabbath NO FIRE MUST BE LIT.unquote I SUGGEST you read that again!!!!! Does Exodus 35:3 ' Does Exodus 35:3 "You shall Kindle no fire in all your dwellings on the Sabbath day" ----IN YOUR DWELLING!!! Apparently a family liviing in the north where it gets feeezing cold--can NOT light a fire it it happens to go out!!! Right !! Let the people freeze!!!! Why woulf anyone care???? Tell me, a family live in the back country. The ONLY stove for heat and food MUST be stoked EVERY 4 HOURS!!! It is stoked on Friday evening--Then what happens in 4 hours????? -- ALL MUST LIVE in the freezing cold for the next 20 hours!!!! NOT allowed to keep the fire burning???? THe family go to church and then arrive home. FIRE is OUT!! Then what????? STAY HOME in the freezing COLD until Sabbath is over????
Sabbath Dishes.--We would charge all not to wash their dishes on the Sabbath if this can possibly be avoided. God is dishonored by any unnecessary work done on His holy day. It is not inconsistent, but proper, that the dishes should be left unwashed till the close of the Sabbath, if this can be managed.--Letter 104, 1901. {3SM 258.4}
I have seen large evangelist meeting in Barbados where hot meals were served on the Sabbath but still we are told we should not light fire or cook on sabbath. Why have to shop on Sabbath ,we always say God will provide,did he not had enough at home to share there and then ,instead of going to the supper market.TOO MUCH CONFLICTS AND DOUBLE STANDARDS FROM LEADERS WHO CLAIM TO BE SDA .
According to Ex 20:10, not even the stranger within thy gates shoulď be allowed to break the sabbath so its a mute point that they were "non sda" and that they "volunteered".
It took me forever to realize how much work was done on Sabbath on our kitchens to feed the members ( very few visitors, ever stayed). It was only after I volunteer that my eyes were open. I was part of a large church and we need 10 ladies preparing food to provide for all. We baked the frozen lasagnas, chopped large amount of fruits, vegetables and leaves for salads...not to mention, setting the dinning room, cleaning after work...no way I stayed for another potluck in my life if it falls on Sabbath.
It is our purpose as a people to do good everyday including the Sabbath . The sabbath must not be seen as an item which interferes with tending to humanity, infact what awesome a sabbath observance when we do good on the day and not having to pause and think if we are pleasing God.
I notice that the Pastor was having trouble about the question about Jesus and his worship between 12 and the time that he went to the Temple and worship.But the text said , That he came to Nazareth and as his custom was , he into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read.
The question was "Where was He and what was He doing between ages 12 and 30?" I'm guessing everyone knows He went to the Synagogue on Sabbaths. But the person wants to know what Jesus did from Sunday to Friday for 18 years, 12 to 30. The Pastors read and understood the question.
It's about Jesus not the Sabbath sda false doctrine false prophet e g white preach preach mat 28 not happy Sabbath sick)stop sining dink smoking and sleep around ooooww look the Sunday law is coming trash it's all about Jesus
There are a lot of kitchen utensils that are disposals. No cooking on the Sabbath or have only fruits on the Sabbath.. there are grains fruits and nuts vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our creator. . . .for the tables of all who claims to be preparing for translation to heaven.TS on Diets and Foods -egwhite
Let me ask this--Many claim one can NOT carry anything on the Sabbath??? Does that include utensils to eat with???? NO ONE can liftt a fork to the mouth????? CAN NOT wipe ones mouth with a dinner napkin??? Can not take a cover from off a pot???? Where would I find serving spoons to serve with that are throw away????
My concern is, if they are non Adventist and are willing to volunteer why not invite them to church for worship then. Serve up the meals in disposable plates(allows no washing) or have other Adventist assist in washing up after Sabbath. For 1 I think you're creating a dark space between those who are non Adventist and the Adventists who are encouraging them because if they're not in like mind of adventism that encouragement could create a problem trying to win them over to Christ.
quote---For me, the washing dishes part may be a violation...unquoet A sink FULL of dirty dishes is NOT only unsightly--BUT also unhealthy!!!!! Bugs, flies and rodents are attracted to that!!!! Is that what you promote????
Yes it's good to do good on the Sabbath, but it is irrelevant that the ladies are non-SDA's. The organisers are being disingenuous by allowing non-SDA's to do their heating up. Why couldn't they do it? A hot meal, by nature, has to be warmed up prior to eating. I just find the question is legitimate, but throwing in the part about the ladies not being SDA is pathetic. You can't 'franchise out' good deeds on the Sabbath to non-SDA's. If anything, it should be explained it's not ideal, but in the better interest of the good deed, then it is permissible... The non-SDA ladies need to hear the gospel too.
For those who are trying to show us that keeping the Sabbath is wrong, I have a problem with your ways to do it. Do you think that insult, calling us names, or be upset with us are the best to get our attention? If you think that you are right then bring some Bible verses and we will discuss about them. Also, if you think that we are hypocrite then don't come anymore. I don't think it is love because love doesn't act like that.
Jesus picked corn heal the sick sda dr will not work Saturday Saturday is Jewish law JESUS gave life for you give you new covenant that you are throwing back in his face its it's called the blood Covenant which he wrote with his own blood and died for your sins you go to church on Saturday and got false prophet who tried her best to trash God word that was complete 2000year JESUS did not go into the holy of holys is NOT doing an investigation judgment you siting in church doctrine and who are master's at brain washing were your so called Sabbath and Sunday law now 😢
Should not point fingers who is doing wrong on the Sabbath. Mind your own business..... If u think somebody is doing wrong, pray for them. Withhold your judgement.
experts claim Jesus died on April 6, 33AD!!! NOT according to history". The Massacre of the Innocent happened about 5BC!!! Jesus was already born by then!!!! King Herod died about 4 BC!!! The Massacre of the Innocent was ordered by him. Tha places Jesus birth about 5BC. That places his baptism at 26AD!!!! Death at 29AD!!!! "Experts" claim again Hid death on April 6th. His minsitry to be 3.5 years Count back those 6 months and you come to October 6th. Another 10 days for gestation of 9 months --10 days and you get September 26th, 26AD for His birth.!!!
What sadness! We are living in the time of Christ and yet there are still people living in the time of Moses and the law. The Bible is yet to be read and understood by SDAs!
They should read prayerfully 2 corinthians 3:6-16, especially 14 and 15 so the veil can be removed. Here Paul is talking about the 10 commandments. You will realise its referred to as ministry of death, condemns men, it kills. So when you are in Christ the veil is removed
@@killiansayi2162 I am convinced that only the Holy Spirit can bring revelation and understanding. Until they ask for that they will remain in the darkness.
@@exwhyz9367 Any food that is going to be eaten on the Sabbath can logically be purchased or prepared before it begins. In a time where technology has made it available to accomplish this during the first 6 days, there is no real excuse for shopping on the Sabbath.
If we want excuses to break the Sabbath we will find them, simply because Jesus Christ will not impose his truth. He wants volunteer followers not a bunch of robots
In general Friday is called preparation day for a reason , to prepare everything before Sabbath , I believe buying food prept or anyth ing " on " Sabbath or going out for lunch " on " Sabbath etc would fall under thou shalt do No work neither your stranger within your gates , regardless if home or not, your entering a place of bussiness that are working for you on your Sabbath...Remember the Sabbath day to keep it " Holy " it is Gods day, sanctified & blessed.
Am Samuel sapezo from Zambia and my question is do taking a bath on the Sabbath morning when going to church considered as breaking the Sabbath? Because many quotes from 6T where the s.o.p says on how to prepare the Sabbath and it mentions " let the bath be taken " that is before opening of the Sabbath, does this mean that when we walk up in the morning on the Sabbath we shouldn't take a full bath but a half bath. If there is a quotation from the inspiration writings about half bath I would like you to help.
We as intelligent SDA's must learn to think, critical thinking is of utmost importance in everything that we do....we also must look at the context, ask ourselves questions, critical thinking is all about asking questions. Now what was it like when the statement was written, and for whom was it penned. In Ellen's day and geographic location preparing for a bath was a rather tedious job, you heat the water if the weather is cold, prepare your tub etc. Ok! There were no shower I imagine. So in my imagination I see the wisdom in her advice. Now think about living in the tropics...you start sweating soon after a shower, need I Say more.
I’m a Seventh Day Adventist, and my personal opinion (for me) is if’s a few dishes I’ve used, I’ll wash them for sake of cleanliness. I will not go to the extreme to do laundry, etc which can be done at some other time.
We don't because it is not a must. We decided that we could do it after the sabbath. We buy paper plates and most of the time we eat sandwiches. Sometimes people get upset when they are cleaning dishes, then to avoid that in the sabbath, we stay out the sink.
Sabbath Dishes.--We would charge all not to wash their dishes on the Sabbath if this can possibly be avoided. God is dishonored by any unnecessary work done on His holy day. It is not inconsistent, but proper, that the dishes should be left unwashed till the close of the Sabbath, if this can be managed.--Letter 104, 1901. {3SM 258.4}
quote--But not to wash dishes on the sabbath you didn't address that...unquote My opinion: A sink full of dirty dishes is BOTH unsightly and unhealthy!!! Dirty dishes can attract bugs, rodents, flies and germs!!!!
Sabbath sabbath sabbath that seem to be all you folks are concerned about trying keep the SABBATH HOLY. What About LORD OF THE SABBATH. He is the way the truth and the life no man cometh to the father but by him. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO GOOD EVERY DAY. All …ALL OF YOU BREAK the SABBATH somehow so none of you KEEP IT HOLY That is why we NEED JESUS. And dint tell me that if I dont keep the sabbath I dont obey Jesus.
😊😊😮please be like Solomon and ask God for wisdom. Take the time to study the Bible. Ask for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth. Do not allow the devil be the source of your aggression, thus blinding you to Spiritual Knowledge. That’s the sole purpose of satan and which you are not conscious of. Take the time to let God guide you and resist the devil. He welcomes being a winner when he gains control of you.
It is because HE is LORD of the Sabbath, which is why we are following the Master and keep the sabbath. We need to ask why HE created the sabbath? Is it only for one day? Read exodus, and the answer is no. Yes, we have to do good every day. That is how we show GOD that we love HIM. One of HIS commandments is that if you love HIM, we must keep HIS commandments.
The Lord of the Sabbath commanded that ppl keep it. Whether anyone does the best job with observing the Sabbath or not doesn't somehow nullify its authority. What it means is that the person needs to do a better job at complying with God's commands and get the self out of the way. You don't want to hear it, but i'll tell you anyway: your're not obeying Christ. Christ said that the ppl who truly love Him keeps His commandments(Jhn 14:15).
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 but my friend there are some places thus people in the world that cannot keep the Sabbath as it is to be observed from sunset to sunset and many countries don’t have sunsets for a long period of the year and when they do it is often very short or elongated
They are hypocrites. If the Sabbath is a global command then there are causing other people to break the Sabbath. if it is ok to do benevolent work on the Sabbath then they should do it themselves. You guys are just plain old hypocritical. you should not even be driving your cars to church. Keeping the Sabbath must be according to Moses not Ellen White
Did Jesus heal on the sabbath? Does God force the rivers to stop, the sun to go dark or nature to rest? No, it is not unlawful to do good on the sabbath. Don’t be legalistic and meditate on the love of Jesus and study on why God gave the sabbath to man.
@IAM Judah stop and take the time to STUDY the word of God, and do not get irrrational in your thinking. Be like Solomon and ask God for wisdom with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Only then will you understand the Word of God.
Real problem isn't those who obey God's commandment, but our will who choose not to obey God's order. When Cain choose not to obey God's plan of salvation he open door for Satan influence and he didn't stopped his hatred until he killed his brother. Same principle rule throughout all ages, that is why pharisees killed Jesus, and why we had dark ages. Please do not follow this wrong steps.
I don’t think it is “holy shopping”. I think it would be better to keep extra supplies in our pantry to provide for such times. Thank you for your thoughts. Many blessings
You are absolutely right. If we can provide for them, without shopping on the Sabbath, either by asking others to cooperate, as I have done many times, or by taking from our own supplies, it is best. But, if we cannot, or have not; then I believe God does not object to us helping; if the need cannot wait till sundown ... ☝️💓🥰
I'll throw my two cents in since I have first hand experience in this.
My local church has on multiple occasions supplied food parcels. We keep a stock of non-perishable food that can be given out when needed. However, we have no choice but to buy fresh food when a call comes in for someone in need. At times, this call happens on the Sabbath when people have paid their rent for the week and there is nothing left over for food.
You know what you re speaking as if you re always doing right..what if you need to help someone in need and you are far from home? Do you need to go back first to your home to get the supplies in order to help? Tsk tsk
Remember the Pharisees wanted to literally murder Jesus for doing good on the Sabbath. That's the attitude of some "so-called" Sabbath keepers. They return tithes, offerings and gifts and lack compassion for the suffering.
If the "Pharisee" was at Church, he/she wouldn't have seen Pst Bohr leaving with groceries.
I can relate to Pst Bohr's testimony. It's not like people walk around with groceries hoping that a family has a need. And most members like far from the Church and the need is urgent and you can't wait till the sun sets.
Amen, your answer is so right, Jesus says the sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath
How beautiful meeting the needs of people who are in need! Our Savoir worked on the Sabbath healing the sick. I will admit I like to have everything done by including something for us to eat I do warm it up if it's cold. And if I have unexpected I will prepare something for them. The Sabbath was made for me to commune with my heavenly father to be able to study at my leisure getting all that I want. I will need that for the rest of the week we are representatives for Christ we will need to have the holy Spirit to show love and compassion. And to be honest it's the only day of the week that I am able to truly rest from my labors.
Great answer, thanks pastors Stephen and pastor CA. I completely agree that we should do good on Sabbath. It is also important especially in my case as a church leader to set the correct example for our congregation. Irrespective if a person is a non Adventist or working voluntary, the stranger in your gates and even animals are included in the command and that is also why we should not neglect the day of preparation to make provision for unexpected visitors on Sabbath. However, still well answered.
I also think the same
You folks are so confused about the sabbath. God said on the sabbath NO FIRE MUST BE LIT
@@cyprianpeters9110 quote----God said on the sabbath NO FIRE MUST BE LIT.unquote
I SUGGEST you read that again!!!!!
Does Exodus 35:3 '
Does Exodus 35:3 "You shall Kindle no fire in all your dwellings on the Sabbath day"
----IN YOUR DWELLING!!!
Apparently a family liviing in the north where it gets feeezing cold--can NOT light a fire it it happens to go out!!! Right !! Let the people freeze!!!! Why woulf anyone care????
Tell me, a family live in the back country. The ONLY stove for heat and food MUST be stoked EVERY 4 HOURS!!! It is stoked on Friday evening--Then what happens in 4 hours????? -- ALL MUST LIVE in the freezing cold for the next 20 hours!!!! NOT allowed to keep the fire burning????
THe family go to church and then arrive home. FIRE is OUT!! Then what????? STAY HOME in the freezing COLD until Sabbath is over????
Sabbath Dishes.--We would charge all not to wash their dishes on the Sabbath if this can possibly be avoided. God is dishonored by any unnecessary work done on His holy day. It is not inconsistent, but proper, that the dishes should be left unwashed till the close of the Sabbath, if this can be managed.--Letter 104, 1901. {3SM 258.4}
quote--A sink FULL of dirty dishes is BOTH unsightly and UNHEALTHY!!!! Dirty dishes attracts bugs, rodents and flies!!!!
I have seen large evangelist meeting in Barbados where hot meals were served on the Sabbath but still we are told we should not light fire or cook on sabbath. Why have to shop on Sabbath ,we always say God will provide,did he not had enough at home to share there and then ,instead of going to the supper market.TOO MUCH CONFLICTS AND DOUBLE STANDARDS FROM LEADERS WHO CLAIM TO BE SDA .
According to Ex 20:10, not even the stranger within thy gates shoulď be allowed to break the sabbath so its a mute point that they were "non sda" and that they "volunteered".
Exactly...not sure why they even thought that stating they were non-SDA somehow made it 'better'...
Exactly.. these days people seem to purposely come up with programs to infringe og the Sabbath Day.
It took me forever to realize how much work was done on Sabbath on our kitchens to feed the members ( very few visitors, ever stayed).
It was only after I volunteer that my eyes were open.
I was part of a large church and we need 10 ladies preparing food to provide for all.
We baked the frozen lasagnas, chopped large amount of fruits, vegetables and leaves for salads...not to mention, setting the dinning room, cleaning after work...no way I stayed for another potluck in my life if it falls on Sabbath.
It is our purpose as a people to do good everyday including the Sabbath . The sabbath must not be seen as an item which interferes with tending to humanity, infact what awesome a sabbath observance when we do good on the day and not having to pause and think if we are pleasing God.
I notice that the Pastor was having trouble about the question about Jesus and his worship between 12 and the time that he went to the Temple and worship.But the text said , That he came to Nazareth and as his custom was , he into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read.
The question was "Where was He and what was He doing between ages 12 and 30?"
I'm guessing everyone knows He went to the Synagogue on Sabbaths. But the person wants to know what Jesus did from Sunday to Friday for 18 years, 12 to 30.
The Pastors read and understood the question.
It's about Jesus not the Sabbath sda false doctrine false prophet e g white preach preach mat 28 not happy Sabbath sick)stop sining dink smoking and sleep around ooooww look the Sunday law is coming trash it's all about Jesus
There are a lot of kitchen utensils that are disposals. No cooking on the Sabbath
or have only fruits on the Sabbath.. there are grains fruits and nuts vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our creator. . . .for the tables of all who claims to be preparing for translation to heaven.TS on Diets and Foods -egwhite
Let me ask this--Many claim one can NOT carry anything on the Sabbath??? Does that include utensils to eat with???? NO ONE can liftt a fork to the mouth????? CAN NOT wipe ones mouth with a dinner napkin??? Can not take a cover from off a pot????
Where would I find serving spoons to serve with that are throw away????
My concern is, if they are non Adventist and are willing to volunteer why not invite them to church for worship then. Serve up the meals in disposable plates(allows no washing) or have other Adventist assist in washing up after Sabbath. For 1 I think you're creating a dark space between those who are non Adventist and the Adventists who are encouraging them because if they're not in like mind of adventism that encouragement could create a problem trying to win them over to Christ.
Amen so true
For me, the washing dishes part may be a violation
quote---For me, the washing dishes part may be a violation...unquoet
A sink FULL of dirty dishes is NOT only unsightly--BUT also unhealthy!!!!! Bugs, flies and rodents are attracted to that!!!!
Is that what you promote????
Yes it's good to do good on the Sabbath, but it is irrelevant that the ladies are non-SDA's. The organisers are being disingenuous by allowing non-SDA's to do their heating up. Why couldn't they do it? A hot meal, by nature, has to be warmed up prior to eating. I just find the question is legitimate, but throwing in the part about the ladies not being SDA is pathetic. You can't 'franchise out' good deeds on the Sabbath to non-SDA's. If anything, it should be explained it's not ideal, but in the better interest of the good deed, then it is permissible... The non-SDA ladies need to hear the gospel too.
MUST hear about Jesus not the Sabbath false doctrine and false prophet e g white
Consider letting someone read the emails before the time and then rephrase it yourself so that the questions is more clearly stated?
What is rest in soul. It is not rest in work. When a needy one is helped it is observing rest .
The first question was about 2 different scriptures in Rev 19 and Rev 20.They did not cover the entire versus in Revelation 20:3-10.
For those who are trying to show us that keeping the Sabbath is wrong, I have a problem with your ways to do it. Do you think that insult, calling us names, or be upset with us are the best to get our attention? If you think that you are right then bring some Bible verses and we will discuss about them. Also, if you think that we are hypocrite then don't come anymore. I don't think it is love because love doesn't act like that.
Jesus picked corn heal the sick sda dr will not work Saturday Saturday is Jewish law JESUS gave life for you give you new covenant that you are throwing back in his face its it's called the blood Covenant which he wrote with his own blood and died for your sins you go to church on Saturday and got false prophet who tried her best to trash God word that was complete 2000year JESUS did not go into the holy of holys is NOT doing an investigation judgment you siting in church doctrine and who are master's at brain washing were your so called Sabbath and Sunday law now 😢
Let's get down to serious business how does the sda say JESUS is in minute detail book and page number hammer this till we get a public answer
Sabbath Amen Amen
Should not point fingers who is doing wrong on the Sabbath. Mind your own business..... If u think somebody is doing wrong, pray for them. Withhold your judgement.
Rev 1: 7 ....every eye shall see Him..... Whose eye is this? Does this include the wicked dead?
Yes, all everyone will be resurrected to the judgement day.
The bible says every eye shall see him including those who pieced him
Questions for us :
About :
When the prophete come ?
# 2 : what of Jesus Christ birthday is ?
experts claim Jesus died on April 6, 33AD!!! NOT according to history".
The Massacre of the Innocent happened about 5BC!!! Jesus was already born by then!!!! King Herod died about 4 BC!!! The Massacre of the Innocent was ordered by him.
Tha places Jesus birth about 5BC. That places his baptism at 26AD!!!! Death at 29AD!!!!
"Experts" claim again Hid death on April 6th. His minsitry to be 3.5 years
Count back those 6 months and you come to October 6th. Another 10 days for gestation of 9 months --10 days and you get September 26th, 26AD for His birth.!!!
What sadness! We are living in the time of Christ and yet there are still people living in the time of Moses and the law. The Bible is yet to be read and understood by SDAs!
They should read prayerfully 2 corinthians 3:6-16, especially 14 and 15 so the veil can be removed. Here Paul is talking about the 10 commandments. You will realise its referred to as ministry of death, condemns men, it kills. So when you are in Christ the veil is removed
@@killiansayi2162 I am convinced that only the Holy Spirit can bring revelation and understanding. Until they ask for that they will remain in the darkness.
quote---The Bible is yet to be read and understood by SDAs!...unquote
PROVE that opinion!!!! With FACTS
Did Jesus Christ buy food on the Sabbath??? I can't see it in the Bible
Well, how many of us nowadays has a cornfield in our back yards?
Context, context...🙄🙄
@@exwhyz9367 Any food that is going to be eaten on the Sabbath can logically be purchased or prepared before it begins. In a time where technology has made it available to accomplish this during the first 6 days, there is no real excuse for shopping on the Sabbath.
@@exwhyz9367 preparation for the Sabbath begins Saturday at sunset, after the Sabbath is over. Pray for guidance and take action.
If we want excuses to break the Sabbath we will find them, simply because Jesus Christ will not impose his truth. He wants volunteer followers not a bunch of robots
In general Friday is called preparation day for a reason , to prepare everything before Sabbath , I believe buying food prept or anyth ing " on " Sabbath or going out for lunch " on " Sabbath etc would fall under thou shalt do No work neither your stranger within your gates , regardless if home or not, your entering a place of bussiness that are working for you on your Sabbath...Remember the Sabbath day to keep it " Holy " it is Gods day, sanctified & blessed.
Am Samuel sapezo from Zambia and my question is do taking a bath on the Sabbath morning when going to church considered as breaking the Sabbath? Because many quotes from 6T where the s.o.p says on how to prepare the Sabbath and it mentions " let the bath be taken " that is before opening of the Sabbath, does this mean that when we walk up in the morning on the Sabbath we shouldn't take a full bath but a half bath. If there is a quotation from the inspiration writings about half bath I would like you to help.
You have to realize in the time she was speaking, taking a bath was a Task, it wasn’t as easy as it is for you, and I now to just turn on the faucet
We as intelligent SDA's must learn to think, critical thinking is of utmost importance in everything that we do....we also must look at the context, ask ourselves questions, critical thinking is all about asking questions. Now what was it like when the statement was written, and for whom was it penned. In Ellen's day and geographic location preparing for a bath was a rather tedious job, you heat the water if the weather is cold, prepare your tub etc. Ok! There were no shower I imagine. So in my imagination I see the wisdom in her advice. Now think about living in the tropics...you start sweating soon after a shower, need I Say more.
In Belize in the month of May, we have days that are 103 Fahrenheit. Bathing is several times a day.
Amen in agreement
Thanks poster..
But not to wash dishes on the sabbath you didn't address that
I’m a Seventh Day Adventist, and my personal opinion (for me) is if’s a few dishes I’ve used, I’ll wash them for sake of cleanliness. I will not go to the extreme to do laundry, etc which can be done at some other time.
We don't because it is not a must. We decided that we could do it after the sabbath. We buy paper plates and most of the time we eat sandwiches. Sometimes people get upset when they are cleaning dishes, then to avoid that in the sabbath, we stay out the sink.
Sabbath Dishes.--We would charge all not to wash their dishes on the Sabbath if this can possibly be avoided. God is dishonored by any unnecessary work done on His holy day. It is not inconsistent, but proper, that the dishes should be left unwashed till the close of the Sabbath, if this can be managed.--Letter 104, 1901. {3SM 258.4}
quote--But not to wash dishes on the sabbath you didn't address that...unquote
My opinion:
A sink full of dirty dishes is BOTH unsightly and unhealthy!!!
Dirty dishes can attract bugs, rodents, flies and germs!!!!
No pastor they go back and wash the dishes on the Sabbath thats breaking the Sabbath
Washing dishes is work..smh
A sink full of dirty dishes is BOTH unsightly and unhealthy!!!
Dirty dishes can attract bugs, rodents, flies and germs!!!!
Are they both SDA?
Yes, both are SDA pastors! Doesn't mean much today..
Crazy
Is it that Jesus is lying, or you ?sir please speak truth and stop pushing lies.
Sabbath sabbath sabbath that seem to be all you folks are concerned about trying keep the SABBATH HOLY. What About LORD OF THE SABBATH. He is the way the truth and the life no man cometh to the father but by him. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO GOOD EVERY DAY. All …ALL OF YOU BREAK the SABBATH somehow so none of you KEEP IT HOLY That is why we NEED JESUS.
And dint tell me that if I dont keep the sabbath I dont obey Jesus.
😊😊😮please be like Solomon and ask God for wisdom. Take the time to study the Bible. Ask for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth. Do not allow the devil be the source of your aggression, thus blinding you to Spiritual Knowledge. That’s the sole purpose of satan and which you are not conscious of. Take the time to let God guide you and resist the devil. He welcomes being a winner when he gains control of you.
Mmmm,Carl how do you know All break the Sabbath somehow?
It is because HE is LORD of the Sabbath, which is why we are following the Master and keep the sabbath. We need to ask why HE created the sabbath? Is it only for one day? Read exodus, and the answer is no. Yes, we have to do good every day. That is how we show GOD that we love HIM. One of HIS commandments is that if you love HIM, we must keep HIS commandments.
The Lord of the Sabbath commanded that ppl keep it. Whether anyone does the best job with observing the Sabbath or not doesn't somehow nullify its authority. What it means is that the person needs to do a better job at complying with God's commands and get the self out of the way. You don't want to hear it, but i'll tell you anyway: your're not obeying Christ. Christ said that the ppl who truly love Him keeps His commandments(Jhn 14:15).
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 but my friend there are some places thus people in the world that cannot keep the Sabbath as it is to be observed from sunset to sunset and many countries don’t have sunsets for a long period of the year and when they do it is often very short or elongated
They are hypocrites. If the Sabbath is a global command then there are causing other people to break the Sabbath. if it is ok to do benevolent work on the Sabbath then they should do it themselves. You guys are just plain old hypocritical. you should not even be driving your cars to church. Keeping the Sabbath must be according to Moses not Ellen White
Satan hates the sabbath, too.
Did Jesus heal on the sabbath? Does God force the rivers to stop, the sun to go dark or nature to rest? No, it is not unlawful to do good on the sabbath. Don’t be legalistic and meditate on the love of Jesus and study on why God gave the sabbath to man.
@IAM Judah stop and take the time to STUDY the word of God, and do not get irrrational in your thinking. Be like Solomon and ask God for wisdom with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Only then will you understand the Word of God.
Real problem isn't those who obey God's commandment, but our will who choose not to obey God's order.
When Cain choose not to obey God's plan of salvation he open door for Satan influence and he didn't stopped his hatred until he killed his brother.
Same principle rule throughout all ages, that is why pharisees killed Jesus, and why we had dark ages.
Please do not follow this wrong steps.
@@leslynjohn8593, you can break the sabbath to help someone BUT you cant PLAN to help someone by breaking the sabbath.