I Was Wrong Ranking Martial Arts...
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2023
- I Ranked Martial Arts and I made quite a few mistakes...
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Brazilian here : we have about 15 different accents here in Brazil, huge country. Trust me you're good saying Capoeira 😂
Seth you Still need to rank letwei😟😠
I did in the first video 👍
Hey Seth, have you ever heard of Bataireacht, otherwise known as Irish Stick fighting? It's a fascinating martial art, a traditional Irish one. (who woulda guessed it haha) The weapon used in it is the shillelagh. It would be great to see you do a video on it sometime in the future. It's a legit martial art that needs more recognition, and you're just the guy to do it, being one of the best martial arts youtubers out there. Would you please consider making a video on it?
@@SenseiSeth Which video because I don't see it
As a Brazilian, when you pronounced capoeira with the Brazilian accent and pronunciation, I felt warm in my heart
Was just about to comment the same thing. Not pretencious att all
I remember a white girl I dated once told me not to pronounce Spanish words in a Spanish/Mexican accent because it was pretentious. I asked a bunch of Latino people and they all thought she was crazy.
@@SimBol1216 When you here someone speak english and you here a thick accent from what you are use to most people complain, but when they try to match your accent to say it correctly it does make you happy. So yeah it is common for people to want to have words pronounce correctly than having the word sound weird where you need to decipher the word.
@@SimBol1216 only white people say pronouncing a "foreign" word correctly is pretentious. I think they just get jealous about being culturally ignorant and project that on you.
@@SimBol1216 she was probably a woke, their opnion have no value, am also brazilian, wich is a latin country and i dont care
Title: I was wrong about martial arts
Seth: Nah i pretty much nailed it.
Now do the eclectic thing and introduce us to what you would take from what style into your very own hybrid one - the Seth mix. And maybe what you would choose to train if you had to start a fresh and had the option. Or what you would introduce your children to. Let's see what you come up with!
The final form of Sensei Seth xD
The Seth Chex mix martial art gonna take over.
He already did a video explaining what he learned from all the martial arts he tried. Including some that are not featured in this video or the original tier list. Like HEMA and bohurt.
I 100% get behind this message. Is it time for seth to form his own style or sub style? It takes a large ego to do this and publicize it, though I think doing so privately is something all experienced fighters do. I know I have over the many .. oh so many... too many years. strangely I discovered recently one classic 'signature' move in my tool box is actually common in karate - a sport/art ive never studied, found this out from another of seths vids - moves common to multiple arts are a thing obviously but it was still interesting to find this out.
Id love to see some one else with an eclectic study of different arts discuss this, and take it to its full conclusion. I think Rokas(martial arts journey) is on that path now personally.. and i wish him luck.
they have a video with basically all the guys talking about why creating a new 'style' is sort of a nonsense gimmick.
You actually did what maybe no one ever did on history. You tried all major martials arts from every corner of the planet before ranking them. Thanks modern times to have make it possible, and be proud of you for this because that's damn sure a huge achievement.
Honestly, doing one lesson in every martial art is just not enough to even begin to understand what is going on. Even when you have experience in the field, you need more than just a couple of hours to understand anything.
he ranked them all before trying them though
I only did judo for about 3 yrs but it was the fittest I've ever been in my life from doing it, the training is very hard but also fun. I got some injuries but that is to be expected.
As far as self defence goes I think its excellent. Taking someone's legs from under them and making them feel helpless can be enough to put them off.
shoulda done high school wrestling.....
@@Sakattack2023 unfortunately thats not available in the uk
The thing is yes even krav maga and King Fu can be effective if you train it right, but looking at how 90% of people train it is something that needs to be considered
@@aarkproductions yh it's more of a ceteris paribus thought but even then, there are so many variables that it often feels more like the adult version of "my favourite superhero would beat yours".
From what I practiced Judo is the only martial art that i used to defend myself, it's what i knew that time. Besides the training being brutal exaustive.
When comes to exhaustive it has to be Jiu-Jitsu during rolls/sparring, here in Brazil being hot af doesn't help at all.
I love watching Seth realize that he's gotten really close with all these coaches and how amazing they have been taking him into their circles and teaching him and the fact that he is supposed to go back and re rank these without crapping on their hard work and what they have dedicated their lives too. I don't envy him whatsoever
I have to say RUclips is a very interesting thing as you get to see the growth of individuals. Thank you not just for your honesty but for being strong enough to admit where you went wrong and what you got right.
I think the silver lining here is actually not the martial art but the method of training and whether there is a culture of growth and learning vs a culture of conserving and accepting.
It’s something that I’ve noticed as a theme in a lot of Seth’s vids and seems like the main tipping point for a whether a martial arts school is worth your time.
After 30+ years doing various martial arts, my sister wanted to know what her son should do. I told her whatever dojo had the best sensei. He's got a great wrestling coach and a great TKD coach. Got 10 years to grow into a body that'll choose his path if he wants to pursue it.
Sometimes your body chooses what you're best at
Wrestling will pay off for him in so many ways.
Sambo and Sanda have some historical links due to the connection between the Soviet Union and China, so the parallels you mentioned are actually quite apt.
Sambo and Sanda are really underrated. They are basically MMA before the UFC. We need to stop thinking them as "style" because what they really are Mixed Martial Art, the word mean more like rule set. They compete in "Sanda" rule or "Sambo" rule. If you are going to compete in a specific tournament you better train for that specific rule set otherwise you will lose points or straight up disqualified for using certain moves.
Judo
@@mr.q337 i always say, this is not a martial art, is a compilation of, and the fanboys goes crazy
Samba
Sambo was created by using judo as a base. SanDa was created by the KMT before the CCP existed using chinese wrestling as a base. They do not have any direct link historically
Boxed and wrestled for ~12 years competitively, had a number of professional boxing fights, but it was always a secondary part of my life so I can't say I understand it at the highest levels. What I do know is that between those two martial arts I have never been threatened or put into a truly dangerous situation by another random human being . I'm a bit of a hothead so I've put myself in too many "Oh yeah?" situations in my life, but there were a number of times where I was able to protect someone and myself from truly aggressive and dangerous people who were starting trouble.
Just curious, how much do you think that was the boxing/wrestling vs your own athletic/physcial abilities?
@@Hewrin88 Good question. Being extremely athletic alone put in advantage again 70% of the population. Size does matter after all.
This. As much as I love to practice MMA, Sambo, BJJ and Kickboxing (Muay Thai, Sanda, etc); all you really need in order to defend yourself in a real life scenario is boxing and wrestling. I’ve been practicing all those arts for a while now and they’ll all absolutely protect you, but by definition the best bang for your buck is boxing and wrestling. Think about it: wrestling is free… you just join your high school wrestling team and you’re covered. And boxing clubs are only like $30 a month compared to $100+ for all of others above.
@@tjsho417 Cost wise, I think it depends on where you live. In South East Asia, where I live, most boxing class are just fitness boxing. Meanwhile, people compete in Sanda, Muay Thai, BJJ, so they offer gym class everywhere and even offer a Judo club for free in college. I got to train with the Sanda national team for relatively cheap here.
Wrestling + Boxing combo is the most street fight proven ability to have. Everything else fails in comparison.
You're the man for putting yourself in uncomfortable situations for our enjoyment. The humility and open mindedness you've shown is 100% the reason I keep coming back to see the next video. Excited to see the follow up to this one in 5 years!
Hi Seth, about the 7:40 minutte. I'm a Brazilian who has tried capoeira in the past. I can't speak for the entire capoeira community, but I see no problem with you saying 'Capoeira' using our accent.
Edit: And your accent is very good, whether you're saying 'capoeira' or 'capoeirista.
This is so great Seth, I knew you would be planning something like this when you started trying out all these martial Arts, I love the way you've made this and gone back to Analyse your old thoughts to make something cool and new. You've made one of the Best Martial Arts RUclips videos out there.
This is one of the most underrated videos on youtube. There is a big underlying lesson about what you did that applies to many things in life. You gave us a big lesson in humility.
I personally think that every single martial art can be used for fighting IF you know how to fight but the problem is that not all martial arts teach you how to fight and those are the ones that get bad rep.
Just take what works for you and disregard the rest, mma is the best
I’m a practicing Okinawa Karate practitioner myself. I enjoy how you approach the different styles and take them on. Keep this coming! It’s helped my sparring and technique
Okinawa? As in the birth place of karate?
@@Deathbystrudel exactly lol
I took Kenjutsu way back when as well as Karate and Tae Kwon Do. Something I noticed through those forms was that the footwork is all extremely similar. What's your take on something that occurred to me about the Budo styles that's been stuck in my brain box for a little while now. This being that Karate is a HtH form built off of the footwork and movements you'd already be practicing for your sword techniques? It being so either to maximize muscle memory you'd constantly be reinforcing in training your sword techniques or a supplementary form to stay alive with should something happen to your katana and you wind up disarmed. Do you see any there, there or am I just injecting suppositions into a coincidence?
Ichi! Ni! San! 🤜 I did Okinawan Karate 20 years ago. I remember the knuckle push-ups very well
If you need help tearing apart more of your old videos... i would be excited to help!
Why am I not surprised
I'm 35 and still you have been a great inspiration for me. This is by far my favorite channel on youtube !
Trying different stuff is really important for getting you out of your arrogance like you said.. my instructors might get pissed of by me trying everything, especially those whose arts I just try out, but in the end I think this is good for everyone. I tried capoeira, I tried muay thai, heck I even tried wing tsung . I might have tried all the arts in my area. Now I have much better understanding about what those arts are about and what I want to train in.
Btw, escrima has been by far the most fun and interesting out of the things I have tried :)
My og art was taekwondo in which I have the blue belt exam tomorrow. Besides it I go regurarly to aikido and hapkido and kombatan (escrima ) . The most difficult choice for me is to choose between capoeira and defendo ( krav magaish self defence style ) . They are like day and night but both have such good things in them. Capoeira, like you know is really physical and you get an awesome physique , sense of rhythm of it . You learn to move in really creative ways which is always good for self defence. It is also REALLY FUN. The culture is really refreshing and lively and it's nice to have music in your life. Every training is like a small party.
There is music also in defendo, but it's heavy metal , lol . xD Which I enjoy also of cource, I'm a Finn. It is a REALLY effective self defence style, suited for professionals . On the other hand it is doesn't feel as healthy as capoeira. You get always something strained when you wrestle with really big and stiff ppl without much of grappling experience. But the community is great just like in capoeira. Just really different. I have to choose between capoeira and defendo, because they are on the same days at the same time so can't go to them both.
You are one of my favourite RUclipsrs Seth, love your content.
Thank you for all you've done.
I'd love to see you train for a fight, K1 or MMA, be an awesome video, the training and then the whole fight.
You know so much and know so many great instructors who could get you properly ready.
Sensei Seth revisiting his martial arts tier list is all I wanted for Christmas! I mean, I'd accept a new gaming console, but this still makes my day. Just kidding! I don't play video games (my hands are too beat up). Really great video, Seth! A lot of content creators hesitate to look back at their older content, but there's a lot to be learned by doing so. While you're teaching others new skills all the time, you're learning alongside us, as any true martial artist should. This is one of my favorite videos you have ever uploaded.
My hands are destroyed from boxing and sparring in judo, had an xbox and a Playstation that I could never play because using the controllers for extended periods of time was uncomfortable, if you did want to try gaming I've had alot more enjoyment with PC, there are so many options with mouse and keyboard you can find something that fits what your hands can tolerate
@@abcdefgcdefg5178 Thanks for the tip! Similar story with me: broken hands from kickboxing, multiple surgeries, and early onset arthritis. No regrets, because I love martial arts, but it is a bummer getting "writers cramps" a minute or so into doing anything that requires fine motor skills with my hands. I've never attempted gaming on a PC, but it sounds like a viable option.
@stephengann5978 it's definitely been a more viable option, especially if you get one of the bigger gaming mouse set ups because it keeps ur hand in a more natural position
Seth, you’re a monument to curiosity and open-mindedness in a world beset with the haughty arrogance of certitude. And I’m not just saying that to demonstrate my superior British vocabulary ;)
Thanks again for giving us - and everyone else featured here - a shot. You’re welcome back any time.
With respect and appreciation,
Glenn
idk what half of that meant, but it seems good! 😂😂 means a lot to me sir 🙏
this was really inspiring. its amazing seeing folks like you, Rokas, and Jesse going through your own journeys trying different arts. this is what makes yt content great. i look forward to seeing the next phase of your martial arts journey.
This feels wierd to watch because i remember the first videos i watched on this channel were those tier lists when seth was at like 20k
Its incredible to see how far he has come in 3+ years
Keep up the amazing content seth!
I started with MACP, retired and went into Krav Maga, then stuck with Muay Thai and BJJ. I agree, after a certain point, your BJJ really is just for other BJJ people lol. Its not bad to know some strikes for sure, especially knees and elbows.
I think the most beneficial thing about BJJ isn’t necessarily just the submissions, but being able to control and have an understanding of someone else’s body on the ground. Staying on top when fighting is probably one of the most important aspects of someone being able to win and minimize damage in a fight.
what is MACP ?
@@doomslayer4433 Modern Army Combatives Program.
I wrestled in HS a million years ago (I'm 55), did some boxing, now 1 year into judo and BJJ. You came to my gym for your judo video. I am glad it's not just me who thinks judo is so challenging.
You'd be stupid to assume any martial art is easy. Especially judo. Shit brutal
its just so hard you to get thrown down over and over, at least for me hahaha
@sensei seth: started watching you about a year ago. You're a great martial artist but an even better human being. You make great content and have done some excellent collaborations. Keep going brother! You're making the world a better place.
I remember leaving a negative comment on the original martial arts tierlist, mainly due to how you (and icymike at the time) ranked kyokushin karate.
Nice to see you come back to the topic!
Wish you would take the time to go more in depth on the different karate styles out there though
I've trained Judo, Taekwondo, Kempo, Silat and Kobudo and I believe the reason why we have so many different martial arts is because each is ideal for a type of individual. Physically and mentally a person may thrive in one and not be so good at another because of who they are, and not what the art is like. So even though the ranking system is a somewhat popular thing in youtube I find it useless and completely arbitrary.
Man, Seth, you and I are on the same page on BJJ. I pretty much do more BJJ than anything now, but it's also my least favorite to actually do. I just consider it extremely important as a skill. My favorite things to train are Sambo, Judo, and Muay Thai.
in my experience the guys who do well and get enjoyment in bjj are massive fucking nerds who love the depth of information
@@masonwillms2542 That's actually me, I'm a massive fucking nerd who loves the depth of information. But the actual doing of BJJ is just less fun, and I apply my OCD levels of detail orientation more to Muay Thai and Judo. With bJJ, I actually prefer to try to keep a super basic game. Roger Gracie is my biggest inspiration for BJJ. Game so basic that even a white belt can tell what he's doing, but nobody can stop him from doing it.
Great Video Seth! Thank you for all your hard work.
I love this video. Many people forget that none of these are gonna perfectly train for a street encounter. Every art has its own forms and rules, which create unique limitations. For most situations, learning to create the scenario for your chosen art through pressure testing will prove most valuable.
I used to train traditional jiujitsu with a guy who had come from Savate and Kali - dude was mixed race but spoke with a French accent and we called him Froggy and made fun of French cliches. Dude was one of the scariest fighters I ever sparred with. Just incredible kicks and given a weapon? Yikes.
Dude worked as close body protection - body guard for celebs and wealthy people. One of the other senior students at a dojo was a cop - we heard about a couple of times where Froggy had to do his job as a problem solver rather than a problem preventer. I’ll never know if his success was more about him as a person or about the skills he had developed - but he earned his living for sure, and even when I was trying for a pro career and had a lot of reach and weight advantage - I never wanted to imagine a fight with that dude without a referee, rules and mutual respect.
PRO TIP: Don't ever show your Keys on the Internet, especially in such a perfectly symmetrical shot.
Very true
Hopefully nobody steals the punching bags (but thank you)
Found the Krav Maga guy 😂
It was awesome to see you reevaluate your initial take, given the new experience. It's been great to see your take on all these other martial arts evolve and grow as you have learned more.
...3 years, huh. And what a journey to tell of it.
Honestly, I haven't even watched you for that long. But looking back at the content, it's just incredible how far you've come in those 3 years. From talking about loads of martial arts based on stray clips online, to having tried basically all of them and more in person, and getting to know all these amazing people in the process. I could see myself training under almost any one of the instructors you've visited in these videos, in arts I never even considered, before you stepped out and saw what they can look like when taught well.
So, thank you for that.
That said, I'm still crossed about you not moving Capoeira lmao
This is really heckin' interesting. I was wondering if you felt the same about your rankings after trying all these new things for yourself. Love it! Keep it up!
Also...phantom poop made me snort.
"Wait...is this growth?" Absolutely! It's been great watching that progress from our end. Your channel has become one of my favorite period, let alone for martial arts, precisely because of your willingness to go out and really try new things - to keep an open mind and be willing to approach these arts on their own terms.
I struggled with the original video and many videos like them from other folks, bc it always feels like folks don't have enough actual familiarity with many of the arts being discussed. The internet is a weird place and we have a habit of mistaking that wonky sample for reality as a whole.
But yeah, I dig how your channel has grown and look forward to more :)
Just rewatched a Podcast with Ramsey Dewey and Matt Clinton where they (besides VERY much other topics) talk about the "Jack of all traits, Master of ONE". I think by training all those different kinds of martial arts, you gained a lot of knowledge and become closer to the Mastery of "just" Martial Arts - an allround athlete, someone who knows what to do no matter the situation or circumstances.
Thank you for taking us with you on this journey
I appriciate you told us you would like to test them... And you did. As a content creator you are very creative and honest. As a human being you are top notch. Thanks!
You can say capoeira in a Brazilian way or with accent with no problem man (coming from a Brazilian Capoeirista)
Aw man, I waited the whole video to see if you did Silat. I could see Silat in general getting a low tier, but Raw Silat is *maybe* the one martial art I'd put money on a one year practitioner getting in a real life situation. Just because it's direct, brutal and unconventional in a way where it would be very hard to deal with, then designed to get you out and safe. This is the one thing I'd love to see you try next.
never thought id see a silat mention in here
I haven’t practiced Silat yet, one day!
@@SenseiSeth would love to see you train with @Maul565
I love that u tried so many different martial arts & seeked out legitimate teachers. I enjoyed all those vids. I think any martial art with a good teacher is a positive thing for their overall well being & ppl choose them for their own reasons. Some x's just trying something different, fascinating etc just works.
A friend of mine who was a street fighter, then Marine then confused, angry civilian due to previous trauma besides just military, benefitted hugely from Aikido largely bcuz his older, wiser sensei was the right father figure fit he needed to blossom into the gentle gem he is today.
Plus as a constant fight scenario thinker, he enjoyed the movement, flow based combat & it gave him peace which he so desperately needed. 😊
I love this video! Shows a lot of growth! ❤❤
I started in karate, BJJ, and muay thai back in 2001. Then started working in law enforcement and my focus changed.
Over the years I've trained and studied in a lot of martial arts, including wing chun, systema, krav maga, and KFM.
For the last few years I've been working as a tactical security supervisor in Las Vegas. I won't claim to have been in a ton of altercations, but I started thinking about the ones I have.
Not once have I ever punched, kicked, or choked anyone. Not that there's *never* a time to do so, I just never have. It was always grab and get control.
What I *have* done for real, is wrestling, takedowns, and pain compliance. So I've shifted my focus to arts that specialize in that. So now I study combat hapkido and judo. I've found them to be very practical.
I think any martial arts has their own good concepts that is actually applicable especially some things in ninjutsu, aikido and systema.
You're harsher on karate because you're deeper into it.
I've been loving your journey of training in different martial arts! You've done a great job finding quality instructors that do a great job showing us more of what their art has to offer than most sources on the internet, and I think the martial arts community owes you a big thank you for bridging that divide of inclusivity in a respectful and educational way while being hella entertaining!
My only problem is with your cookie dough level of regret, because we all know that feeling, but we'd also absolutely all do it again 😜
it would be cool if you did more videos about capoeira
Finally 🔥 the SEQUEL! Not only did that video change your life, the video CHANGED MINE. You are the reason I got into Martial arts! Keep going Sensei Seth, never give up!
Its so great to see the journey through the variety of martial arts. There really is something you can learn from all of them, even if it is only a little bit. But I do think the humility and open mindedness becomes apparent when you do things what you just did.
I'm glad that Sensei Hardy who comes from the lineage of Stephen Hayes was the one to show you the good of the art.
A lot if not all of what you said about Karate applies to Ninjutsu as well. As a Bujinkan practitioner I've heard some mad things and I don't want to point out names, but there's way more finger pointing and "We do it right because I say so" than I would've hoped for. I don't regret getting into it though, it's done nothing but good for me so far and I'm in better shape than ever.
But it takes a good sensible teacher to teach Ninjutsu in modern times. I lucked out with a good one myself.
I think with TKD it is important to distinguish Kukkiwon Style TKD (which does olympic style sparring and partners with WT) from ITF style TKD (which spars closer to kickboxing). In practise whilst coming from similar roots they are very different and by now are almost functionally different martial arts.
Right on. I practice a style similar to the latter and one may look at it and think it's Karate
Yea absolutely agree. I'm a purple belt and my Dojang is ITF, and it's very similar to Shotokan Karate. Our sparing is way closer to karate then WTF TKD
@@taylorkarnehm7184that would be because tkd came from shotokan karate. It has no roots in taekyon.
@@zman4116 oh absolutely. It's literally only inspired from taekyon from name only, because the President or prime Minister of Korea wanted it to be so from history. The killing art by Alex gillis was a absolutely essential read for the history. It's so crazy that in the 60s kyokushin karate and taekwondo almost merged, but because mas Oyama seen himself as Japanese (dispite being born in Korea) that it didn't work out. Classic TKD was much more focused on power and crippling opponents versus what the Olympic system is now
@@zman4116 honestly it's a same because itf TKD is a great base for MMA, kickboxing, etc.. but it seems over shadowed by the Olympic system and the mcdojoing of tkd
Capoeira has no guard , great fitness, but no guard , in a fight is sure lost .
Then learn something else with it
@Breakaway-ic5gj if you take a bad habit, it's difficult to correct. To keep an efficient guard isn't easy , by the way, capoeira is amazing as fitness .
This was my nr1 pick when i started watching youtube today 😊 Super content!!
Instantly liking for the blur on the key. LPL would be proud
And then open that lock with a spork, twice to show that it was not a fluke. All that while McNally is standing next to him looking disappointed... ;)
I'm very happy you changed your mind about judo. It is an incredible martial art, certainly up there with BJJ and Muay Thai. BJJ is the best on ground martial art, Muay Thai (the art of 8 limbs) is the best striking, judo is the bridge between with the most and best takedown variations. The strength required throwing people around and not getting thrown week in week out is unreal as well, unlike any other martial art. Not to mention they do have quite a few "basic" submissions that really do work (I say basic comparing it to BJJ).
Anyone looking to learn a martial art for self defense, (other than becoming a quick runner capable of long distance) id recommend you learn Muay Thai and judo for a few years and you'll beat at least 90% of regular people on the street that start something.
I haven't practiced Muay Thai, but it seems to me that the clinch should work excellently with Judo. I'm with Seth that if you're jumped in the street, you want to remain standing, so the balance training of Judo + Muay Thai, alongside the training to disrupt your opponent's balance in both, coupled with the low kicks and striking from Muay Thai would be a very effective combination for the street. On the mat, you can just let loose with Judo, which is what Masahiko Kimura did to Hélio Gracie.
Again without actually knowing what I'm talking about, it'd be interesting to add some Tai Chi "pushing hands" practice to that, just for increased training in retaining and breaking balance. And maybe Sumo, because if I'm wildly speculating why not go all the way?
@@c99kfm I wouldn't worry about tai chi or sumo personally. Tai chi just does not work in physical combat, think the best example of this was the amateur boxer that beat a tai chi master while only using his left hand.
And again like Seth said the best thing about sumo is the lifestyle gives you extra padding if they have a knife. The throws and clinch in judo and Muay Thai would be much much more effective at winning the fight. Just watch a judo match and think if those throws were on concrete rather than mats. If they stand you have your Muay Thai as a weapon, if they try to take you down you have the strength and skills to off balance and throw any opponent turning the concrete in to your weapon.
I wouldn't waste time learning tai chi or sumo as a form of self defense put that extra time in to more judo or Muay Thai or becoming a quick runner
@@stu9111 The part of Tai Chi that's interesting is the pushing hands - it resembles an exercise we did in Jujutsu (not Brazilian) where we stood right foot to right foot, right hands clasped, and tried to destabilize each other. As far as I can tell, pushing hands is really similar, learning how to master your own balance and mass while finding ways to make your opponent lose yours. I suspect, if you have already trained in the clinch, you would recognize principles if you tried "non-wellness" Tai Chi.
Sumo is for the explosiveness - very few things are more likely to win you a fight than an explosive start. A metaphorical "sucker punch" in the shape of a person trained and aiming to make you lose your balance is a very effective way of ending a fight quickly. Most Muay Thai and Judo matches start by a referee call, Sumo starts when both fighters decide they want it to start.
@@c99kfm again, a tai chi master got beat by a one handed complete amateur boxer. Can't find a single video of a tai chi master with 10+ years of experience winning against an amateur boxer or MMA fighter. Every single one gets knocked out or seriously hurt
And as for sumo, you can get that same explosiveness in wrestling or judo. The explosive power needed to throw someone around is ridiculous. Like why spend years learning tai chi or sumo just for one benefit when the rest is useless when you can get those same benefits and more and genuine skills and techniques from other martial arts. Seems like a waste of time to me
Just do Japanese jujitsu
As for wrestling it CAN means MORE than Greco roman wrestling or even freestyle wrestling. Heck judo can be considered wrestling. It have a pinfall, suplex, takedown. Or catch wrestling the ancestor of freestyle wrestling. In fact freestyle wrestling used to be called AMATEUR catch wrestling. Real catch wrestling was used in legitimate pro wrestling back then. According to historians. In fact they USED to do double wrist lock ( kimura) in 1930s amateur wrestling. Although for a pin.
In fact Greco roman wrestling is ACTUALLY FRENCH wrestling. REAL Greco wrestling was called Pale and it DID have pinfall AND submission. Kind of like catch wrestling. Although it went extinct after being banned by "Christian" emperor.
this video was awsome as every other Seth's videos ! I love you Seth !
It’s encouraging to see Seth grow and share his experience! My opinion, martial arts are like music, some are complicated, some are simple, some people like one style over another…. but that doesn’t mean it’s “objectively better”. Seth’s original video was like “I heard a song of that style, didn’t really like it, D-tier”. This video is like, I went to a concert in each style of music, and here is what I like now. Eventually Seth will be the equivalent of a musician in the band for more than one style….. at that point we will see what he thinks. Many styles take a lifetime to master, too many people casually take a class or two and think they know that style…. If a style is worth training, you should expect at least ten years of training before you can do it well. The internet lacks veracity, it’s just a bunch of casuals with opinions.
I train judo. And it's insanely hard, but I love it.
Brazilians and people that actually train capoeria would appreciate that you mention it like is supposed to be said but they don't really care, only terminally online white people that only care about what is socially acceptable in their terminally online circles would be upset and say is cultural appropiation.
Ive been waiting for this video for so long after all the knowledge youve gained. It shows a lot of growth to be like "oh i was wrong - heres an update!"
One thing we can agree on: there's a world of difference between your thoughts here and back then! And even then you were already a master of an art. Inspiring to think of how much there is to learn.
5:14 Thank you for having an open mind and experiencing modern Wushu Taolu, Sanda and Tibetan Hop Gar, as well as for the still high ranking for Sanda! As I said when we first talked, I agree with your decision to separate Sanda and kung fu. The reservations about the ruleset are understandable, this is due to the Chinese who historically developed the sport and holdovers from Chinese martial arts and Shuai Jiao (摔跤； shuāijiāo, traditional Chinese folk wrestling) culture, and I think that's okay, as long as we're honest about it and its limitations, it's still a great combat sport within its own right.
You can't insist on pronouncing Capoeira the "right" way, while calling karate, "krotty."
Not. to mention, to go full weeb, the title comes after the name. It should be "Seth Sensei", not "Sensei Seth".
To learn, grow and to accept your mistakes like that -- it takes a lot of willpower and good character. Subbed!
Fair enough man really good that you went out to actually try as many as you could and are willing to revise your ideas based on that.
I do Taekwondo, I only see a small portion of what I do in the videos you have done on it. It leads me to believe the master you work with has a modern style focused on the Olympic sport. Taekwondo in reality has a lot of takedowns and combo punch kicks that are more traditional to the sport. They bring the martial much closer to other ones in fighting ability. It's very similar to karate in some ways, but snappier. And it actually has more self defense involved from what I've seen on your channel, so I'm surprised you didn't compare the two more in this video and that this is the conclusion you came to.
Umm. That sounds a lot like hapkido.
There are 2 types of TKD, I feel like you do ITF Taekwondo which is closer to kickboxing and whatnot, while the guy in Seth's videos teaches WTF or Olympic Taekwondo.
I don't know much, but I've done some research since I wanna do ITF Taekwondo, but I might be wrong. If I've gotten something wrong, someone correct me please
No I don't do ITF. I do WTF. I'm aware of the different types. There is a bit of overlap with hapkido. But there is a lot in hapkido that traditional WTF doesn't do. Taekwondo has changed over time kind of like Karate but there are still a lot of masters who teach more traditionally. Just because you do WTF doesn't mean you do almost only this kick based fighting style.
You only raised ratings and lowered none... Meanwhile the strength of martial arts is only as good relative to each other... So only raising ratings while lowering none, comes across as pandering.
Your videos are great, I always feel like I'm hanging out with a buddy.
I love your content, humility and honesty, my friend. I would be so interested to see you evaluate and experience ITF TKD, or more specifically, TKD that is more combat or self defense oriented than the WT/ATA stuff that is so ubiquitous.
My father's and my flavor of TKD is derived from one of the original kwans and is deeply focused on self-defense and practicality to the degree that competition and forms/patterns were minor elements comparatively.
It would be incredible to watch you experience some proper masters in Korea that aren't interested in the Olympics or points. I would be glued to that video to get your impressions.
Dude, you deserve the highest respect for putting your own statements and judgements into perspective. That is truely honorable!
Great video as always.
Would love to see a tear list video for what non combat sports would be better in a street fight, or even what would prepare you to get into combat sports later in life.
Sensei Seth bringing exposure to other arts like Sanda is my favorite RUclips arc
Yes, ‘Pop’ is short for ‘Popular’ in music! Good catch!
I really Appreciate that you did this.
I have always detested the "stylism" in martial arts. I feel all styles have their lessons to teach and I shed the whole idea of one being better than the other. Each one does something well and lack elsewhere.
I started Sport Karate when I was young and as I have gotten older I started training in other styles like Japanese and Okinawan Karate, Kick Boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ, Wrestling, and Tae Kwon Do. Karate is my passion, but they have all taught me something very important . Ultimately it's the martial artist that determines what works and what doesn't for them.
hearing you talk about the "state of karate" I would love if you visited similar topics with the various teachers to hear what they thing about the states of their martial arts: the average quality of teaching, the public view, and what they hope to see change about it in the future.
Ooph!! Good work upping the gamma!
This shows your character and why I respect you. Good job friend 💪🏼 Respect from a Judo/Sambo dude
This journey of yours has been fascinating. Hopefully you'll be able to one day give Hapkido a try.
As a Brazilian, I really loved you trying to pronounce capoeira properly, keep doing it!
as *delightful* as it was to see your butt in that sumo episode, I have to say that id never given sumo much thought prior to that. It was a really great intro to the sport - so thanks for sharing all the same :)
Didn't Jiu Jitsu beat you at the Ultimate Self Defense Championship? I'm just saying, it's one of the only martial arts that can help smaller people disable larger people.
When you said the word “takedowns” in systems, that guy doing the takedown is Matt Hill, he was my first Aikido instructor, he got his third and fourth Dan Iwama under Saito. He joined the forces and went and learned systema and now teaches that in England, because he left I ended up getting into Muay Thai, Boxing and Wing Chun.
Small world
Damn bro it must have taken a lot to post this. So much respect. All love, brother.
I generally enjoy your videos. It really deserves respect for you realizing that most of the rankings where off.
A martial art is just a frame. The instructor is all that matters.
Thanks for the video.
I'd like to see an updated list with some of the martial arts that have gotten some combat exposure and hype recently. Sambo, sanda/san shou, savate and silat have all shown real world effectiveness (to varying degrees) in Muay Thai, kickboxing and MMA fights. I'd love to see how you evaluate them in a new version of your rankings.
Great video as always. Have you ever studied Combatives? Like Kelly McCann, Lee Morrison. Would be good to see a deep dive into these.
good job on this video, God bless you for your humility
I'd just like to explain something about Systema, it depends a lot on who trains you and what your purpose is for training it. It is literally a system of living, designed to give you the most out of what your body and mind has to offer. Martial Art is one part of that and as you would expect, learning it takes years and the only way to get someone to understand what it is, is to actually have them train it until they do...
Thanks for this video, btw. What I just typed, that epiphany on why people don't understand it, was something that just hit me as I was trying it out... And I've trained Systema for half my entire life! Truly, thank you!
You ended up making one of the best martial arts shows ever. None of the history channel or discovery channel entries had anything on your show. Please continue!
Takes a real man to make a video like this much props!
Thank you, your content is appreciated.
I been looking forward to this day
Very good you still have a few ones to try and show: Boxing, Lethwei, Kali, Hapkido, Kajukenbo, Silat Harimau, American Kenpo, Jeet Kune Do. It's a pity you didn't do a ranking this time.
kudos for you for trying new things and changing your mind, good video
Gotta represent Judo! Put a big smile on my face hearing you say it's the hardest martial art you've tried; I've been training for years and just to keep up you have to train and think as an athlete, even just to prevent injuries. Great video, loved it XD
The most effective martial art for self defence is the one that has the most simple yet effective moves to end the confrontation as quickly as possible.