Wow seth, you're editing skills, have really gotten good. That was such a good video. Everything that was said at the end flowed so beautifully with the song you chose, I was really sitting here reflecting lol. This video just made me want to be better 🙂
Dude, you gotta have a mma match soon. Especially now that you have been through good deal of grappling aswell. You have tried just about every martial art, you got top level talent in your friend circle. Why not put your allround skillset to the test? I think you can do well, find someone of equal experience, or lower ;D just for fun.
A lot of the pro sumo wrestlers in Japan also were highly competitive high school and college judo athletes. Sensei Seth is just secretly trying to climb the sumo ladder while also giving us great youtube content
@@emperortime4380 It's crazy to think that, if Seth had actually won that final round, he'd have made a video of him competing in Tokyo. After 6 MONTHS of training. Nonetheless, I think visiting a stable could be a really good idea. Seth is a variety martial artist, but he's clearly more passionate about sumo than a lot of other styles he's tried. It would be so cool to see him go there.
My best buddy got me into Judo last year. My background is Muay Thai and BJJ, but Judo has really become more central to me now, since there are a lot of transferable skills in Judo to both, especially those linked to positioning, timing, and feeling a flow. Also, Shintaro Higashi is just dope.
Seth did a video with Shintaro and Brian Glick where the two of them just bullied Seth. It was the funniest damn thing I've ever seen. In fact, I'm going to go watch it again!
correct. Learning Judo compliments my positions while in a standing clinch. Transitioning from Muay Thai to Judo is pretty natural and puts you in a position to transition into wrestling
As a wrestler, I've always had mad respect for judo. When I was in college two of my fraternity were part of the judo club. I weighed around 325. he weighed around 400 and was 2nd degree blackbelt. One day I challenged him to a judo match in the front yard. He gave me a gi. In my 10 years of wrestling I've never been thrown like that in my life
@ktkt1825 in retrospect if we were going no gi i would have faired much better. The Grabs were foreign to me. On the other hand I imagine watching 700lbs of man flying in the air must have been entertaining for all
@@andrewverburg1805 Glad you survived! It depends- some players have done no-gi work, and the principles are the same. That must have been quite the show!
I had similar experience. I wrested in high school up till the 3rd year of college. Met a judoka, went a round, I was baffled as to how he could do a throw with significantly less effort than me. Judokas definitely emphasize more on the “perfect leverage” and feel for a throw before going for it. I started judo a couple of weeks after meeting him and it really helped my wrestling game.
@@mikaelnigel1 As a Judoka, I've been blessed with a few perfect throws- the very first (Orange) was a counter to O Soto Gari learned the week before on a 225lb very strong policeman (White)- without any effort, he floated up and landed flat on his back. It was amazing and beautiful!
This is very timely. After several years off from martial arts I just started Judo at my alma mater. I chose it because it is very close to my house and as an Alumnus, it is INCREDIBLY affordable compared to other places. I always thought low of Judo because their competitions remind me of Tae Kwon Do in that you throw, stop, reset, throw, stop, reset. Submission is VERY rare. Austin Powers also contributed to my opinion. It is NO JOKE. Like other grappling arts, practice IS sparing. You get thrown and choked and you do it to your opponent from the first day. Additionally, unlike my experience with other arts, it is very logical and methodical. The reason you do every step is basically to fit your body into your opponent's body in such a way that throwing is almost easy (from a strength perspective). Hitting someone with the earth is a very fast way to end a fight. It also keeps you on your feet.
Olympian tkd athletes are in insane shape and finish every practice with blood in their mouths. I broke a rib in an adults tkd TRYOUT practice. Every contact sport is brutal on the body.
@@Petruscaceresok bro but none of that matters if you miss once and I get ahold of you Don’t get me wrong there’s a few people who have made tkd work but they had to train other martial arts to even stand a chance and you could argue that they do kickboxing or Muay Thai implementing a few tkd kicks more than saying they do TKD with a bit of boxing Yea they have a tkd base, which is why I think tkd deserves that recognition, but tkd is not effective at all the moment you add for example something as simple as low kicks or even taking a kick and closing into jab range
@@tearsintherain6311 I hear you bro. The rest of the question in my opinion is “made TKD work where?” TKD is made to work in TKD tournaments. MMA is designed to work in MMA tournaments. I won’t take it for air marshals training or personal development, it may work, but only in a limited fashion.
One of the things about watching Judo competitions.....they may seem a bit boring because by bblack belt level it's basically two experts playing a game of physical chess with each other.....put a black belt against a beginner and you'll see some excitement......
I have practiced TKD, BJJ, Boxing, Muay Thai and Judo and nothing comes closer when training judo. It was probably the most exhausting class I have tried and judokas are just simply beasts. I practiced for 5 months and then I dislocated my elbow during randori and never came back. But man, people really underestimate judo
@@leonardomarquesbellini Tried an ippon into a guy that was at least 50% bigger than me, we both fall and he felt into my arm before I could even break the fall
I started judo at age 38, on the way I broke my leg, fingers, toes, shoulder, tore my abductor muscle, tore my ankle ligaments, but I persevered and got my black belt at aged 44. I am now aged 67, and playing Judo learned me a lot more than just a martial art, the camaraderie was second to none, there was a kind of spiritual ethos too, loved the journey and the self discipline, I am so glad I did it. I stopped training when I was about aged 47, because when I hit the mat, I no longer bounced, but broke and the older one gets, the healing takes so much longer. Giving up was a large wrench, but I didn’t want to be an arthritic old man, for there’s a time to come and a time to go.
I'm 31 and rather strong, but I want to get into martial arts but I've been wondering if it might be too late to get into something is hard impact as judo. Thanks for this.
since you've been in trenches to get your judo black belt, taking up bjj might be rewarding and much easier on your body. I say this because I remember training with an old white belt who was tough as nails. Look up "It's Never to late to be a savage" by Alberto Crane there's a mini video on him you might like.
It's not. I recently started training again after a break of 40 years - you'll love it but take it easy to start with and try and build up your flexibility and strength, a valuable tool for this would be what i use, a Bullworker, - I hope it goes well for you. Judo is a wonderful sport/art and 2nd to none for friendliness and sportsmanship - @@emmanuela7528
@@emmanuela7528 I started Muay Thai at the age of 42. I have been doing it for about 9 months. You are never too old to learn new things. I say pick a martial art and go for it.
I started judo just over a year ago, as an extremely unfit complete beginner 39 year old. I'm now training three times a week and absolutely love it, even when I feel like I suck. I was partly inspired by Seth and other martial arts channels, so thank you for improving my life. The comment about finding your spark really rings true.
The oldest beginner in my dojo started at 55 years old 18 months ago. He had no prior background in martial arts. And recently took bronze at a local veterans tournament. It shows you're never too old to start training.
Started at 39, well basically 40. Getting thrown a lot, I'm only sad leg takedowns are not allowed in competition. Feels really good for a shorter fighter like me, like kata guruma. Also, in rondori being a beginner sucks since every other belt knows how to defend against basic moves like osotogari. So my idea is to start learning sequences ASAP.
@@kendallvlogz2686 With Sambo background from my teenage years I start Judo at 30 years. Now I'm 44 with black belt. Judo is excellent, some of my friends started Judo later and it's always fun. But it can be frustrating, mainly (in my case) because of physical limitations (lack of flexibility, previous knees injuries etc.) But my only regret is, I didn't start it when I was a kid.
"People either don't find it, or they choose the wrong thing, or they never look". Gentlemen, thank you for this video. It has made a difficult day a bit better. I am very happy that you tried judo Sensei Seth. I got into it after only doing striking arts and it was very eye-opening. Thank you for this video, if I ever meet you, I'm buying you a beer. All the best.
I think it might’ve been that Ramsey put it best for me: Judo is greco roman wrestling with a gi on and it changed my perspective of how dope it is (and yes there’s also some ground elements too)
The use of tension (because they have sleeve, lapel, and collar grips) create a different emphasis on how techniques are done. You can do techniques like Ippon-seoi-nage from further away purely because you can rely on the sleeve/lapel grip. You can really anchor someone down because you can get a grip on the gi. Especially when grabbing the collar for breaking posture. The big difference between Greco-Roman wrestling and Judo is *tension.*
Listening to y'all talk about finding that one thing, that thing you're going to strive for, actually made me cry. I wish I'd found martial arts a long time ago, but I'm grateful I've found it now.
Bro i have never wanted you to get your butt whooped at a new martial art so bad lol. As someone who studied judo for 8 years I was surprised to see you had rated it so low. I'm glad that you got to experience judo, it really is a wonderful style/sport. I am grateful for the confidence that it gave me.
It is nice to watch this video. As a Judo Sensei, and with a Father with more than 40 years of Judo pratice (As a Yondan), we did enjoy the way you showed. My father is a Brown Belt at BJJ and Goju-ryu Karate as well. I do not know how it is in USA, but here at Brazil we are very tradicional about the Judogi, wich we stay using only the blue and white one to train. Usually the other colors of Judogi are not allowed in competition, and a BJJ or Karategi are way more diferent than the Judo ones, it can get some advantages when it pratices Judo. Nice to see things through other eyes and a Karate Sensei. Wish you the best things for you in your life. "We can only get close to perfection when we search it with consistency, wisdom and above all, humility." - Jigoro Kano
I think judo is an underrated martial art. I did judo for such a long time and i can assure you its very effective and and its not too hard to learn. Edit: I didn't say judo is easy to learn, I meant that compared to other martial arts, the basics of judo are easier to learn.
It def is, it birthed bjj and Sambo. But I think schools now have ruined it by watering it down. Making it more friendly for kids and safer for competition. Tho I guess this goes for other martial arts that become Olympic
I think it's underrated, but I am not sad that I left it for other stuff that includes punching though (especially after seeing judo knuckles the first time :P ).
You and Jesse inspired me to take up karate at the age of 35. And a month in, it is the most fun I have had in years while working out/training. Walking around with a sprained ankle is the best after landing a headkick during kumite 😀
I did Judo when I was a young man, I was 13 years old throwing full grown men across the mat, and good to see that the format for training is the same but this was in the 90’s when people shelved it in favor of jiu-jitsu.. Good to see that people aren’t sleeping on it’s effectiveness anymore.
@@CanadianWolverine back then everyone was saying that Judo would just get your back taken once people saw cage fights. And the Judo federations seem to be antagonistic to MMA to their own detriment, so casuals aren't as exposed to it. Ronda Rousey was the only big name associated with it.
FINALLY!!! Glad you enjoyed judo. One thing I learned from doing judo is that the staying balanced while being able moving around has helped me tremendously in my Muay Thai clinch game.
You are in good hands Seth! I practiced Judo at Bushido Judo back in high school (Shout out to Sensei Stokes). 3 weeks after starting, I made a rookie mistake at my first tournament and hurt my foot (nothing fractured or broken thankfully). Noticing that I couldn't put weight on my foot, a 16-year old Austin Cook asked if I was okay and then wraps my foot in a compression bandage so I could put weight on it again. He's a world class Judoka, but also a genuinely good dude. It's no surprise that he became a doctor. Also, Alex is my brother! I love that guy...even though he did _literally_ drag me to my first Judo class lol. He's the kindest person you'll ever meet.
The sumi gaeshi is a classic counter to the single leg(kuchiki taoshi)…we don’t see that since IJF banned leg grabs in 2010…but I remember back in my days (late 90s-early 2000’s) to practice it A LOT…and once the arm is there, why not go for the armbar?(juji gatami)… Sacrifice throws to armbar were ubiquitous in judo back in the day… my go to was tomoe nage (sacrifice with foot in the hip) to armbar…
Man your life is so cool. In the hospital recovering from a collosped lung and thought Seth will surely add to the day. And he added, laughter, education, and inspiration in just 16 minutes. Keep living the dream man
i live in taiwan and I ride scooters as my main form of transportation and judo breakfalls has helped me out a lot. I did 2 years of judo here and think I still suck at it. and how did the instructor not tell you that you have a small amount of time to submit the opponent on the ground after a throw??? that's what Rhonda Rousey (and her mom) was all about. also, every single thing in BJJ that's not some modern sport guard was stolen (appropriated?) from judo. and if you're going to compete just learn a few common used combos like ouchi gari to kouchi gari, ippon seioinage to kouchi gari, etc. the "cheapest" way to ippon less experienced opponents is to tani otoshi off of their bad hip throws. be careful when using it though. edit: Austin Cook is a beast and I'm glad Sensei Seth trained with him. The US overall is pretty weak in terms of competitive judo and it was likely he would've found a judo gym that was more "casual".
I did judo in the 90’s when they didn’t stand you up unless you were getting nowhere on the ground. It was very much 50-50 back then and submissions were absolutely a thing. IJF is just murdering judo.
They didn't improve anything. Judo already had ground specialists. Even stuff like de la riva guard was already present in Judo, it just wasn't popular. Obviously overtime due to the different rulesets, the average BJJ person had on average better ground game than the average judoka given the same time spent training.@@justas423
Honestly an interesting take on osoto gari, usually we would start by detailing where we’d put our left foot but honestly I’m on board with the idea of just going for it with the reaping leg straight away. It’s quicker and emphasises a change of direction which actually adds to the effectiveness. 10/10 would throw again.
Nothing quite like getting tossed around by a high level judoka to make you say . . . "Ow!" To quote a modern day philosopher, Joe Rogan, "you're getting hit by the Earth." It certainly feels that way.
Lets not just glide by how smooth that sumi to armbar at 12:07 was, also if seth is in the white belt division he might dust them I think he has a legitimate shot at a gold there
Hey Seth, it was great to meet you. You did an amazing job for your first time ever doing judo. Idk if you have a bjj (gi or nogi) video yet but if you'd like to make one I'd be happy to help.
I took Judo in college when I was 18 until my instructor joined the army. So I got one semester in. It was tough. More vigorous than other arts I had tried and I wrestled on the team in middle school in tournaments. Learning how to fall was very useful for me as I was in a snowy environment, and everyone was wearing a coat. I mixed in the basic throws with the Shotokan karate I knew and that was a good combination for me. Combining your sumo AND Judo will be a great combo for you.
Judo is so hard. I've trained for a good few years. It's interesting to see your perspective as someone who's done a lot of toher martial arts at how difficult, demanding and technical it is. A small adjustment is the difference between a clean throw that feels easy and trying as hard as you can to force someone over and can't. As you train more you learn to move around a lot more and relax and not tighten up. Biggest newbie mistakes i find are holding your breath and tensing as hard as you can, and then probably not grip fighting. You learn how to manage your energy levels and not exhaust yourself. Your technique was really good though on the O Soto Gari.
THANK YOU SETH. judo is my fav martial art and the first i ever competed in, first time i ever submitted someone too! love this, and seeing you grow has been amazing. cant wait to watch you compete.
Thank you for giving Judo a shot! It takes a lot to be able to put your pride to the side and try something new. I hope that BJJ and Judo players alike can train both to further advance the future of grappling!
Check out universities and large Olympic type gyms. It’s an Olympic sport so it’s very common in places connected to other sports like where there’s tracks, pools, etc they sometimes have judo too but might not be as advertised
I competed in Judo locally for 6 years as a youth, and the main thing that carried over was BALANCE. Learning Muay Thai worked especially well in close-range situations and having the passive ability to stay standing.
Yep did judo for 13 years started boxing last year and started muay thai last month. I'll say whenever I've had an actual self defense situation due to judo usually all I've had to do is weather one blow and then once I've got a grip it's game over
That ending conversation with Austin had me tearing up. I'm on my own Judo journey at the moment while in University and I'm gonna be competing in a tournament in April. Austins words of encouragement were amazing. Love this video. Thank you Sensei Seth!
Love it. Judo is a tough martial art. I'm currently a blue belt and a 3stripe white belt in BJJ, hoping to be a double blue belt by the end of the year.
Judo, 2x a week for 8 years. BJJ on and off, 2 x a week for 7years + monthly seminars, I'm lucky to have a dojo that trains both, so the majority of bjj students still know some judo for our takedown game. @@lm10_dxz91
you fought like a sumo wrestler at the beggining, it sure made you not a real "novice" that's better for viewers cause you gave all of them some degree of a challenge. A real first day doing randori its just like a deer in a headlight great content sensei!
I've done some judo, stopped for a while now, but it's been good watching you. I know it's not your first time, but for a beginner you've done very well. Good falls, good instincts. The other guys had more experience than you but they weren't going as easy as I used to on beginners. Looking forward to your tourney, and no worries on the ranking ! As long as you're having fun :)
I believe sensei Seth gave a much better portrait of how an average judo randori looks like than Rokas' (martial arts journey) experience with Chadi (chadi). Without belittling Chadi, maybe he was more cautious with an opponent without proper breakfall practice and did not really apply the big throws.
I think that's probably very accurate - Shintaro also made the observation that much of what Rokas was doing to avoid being thrown would get you penalized in competition Judo, which I believe was the focus of that school or at least that class; your opponent doesn't need to go out of the way to throw you if everything they do is making you Shido yourself - they'll win the match handily either way.
I don't know if this is a practice in Judo. But when we were learning our throws we also learned how to counter the throw or how to interrupt the throw. With shoulder throws, for example, you just place your hand between you and your opponent on their lower back and you push against their lower back. That way, you're pushing them out of the range of leverage necessary to throw you. Even with the little bump throws this would help. Learning how to interrupt a technique is very important in regards to reducing the amount of points your opponent, or sparring partner in this case, can get on you. It also gives you the ability to dictate when you do go to the ground.
I was pleasantly surprised by the O Soto Gari demonstration. They showed the proper, competition version of the throw that actually works, not the traditional one. If they do this for all techniques, then I'm sure a lot of competent beginners come out of this dojo at a very good level. I wish I would have a place like this near me. At most dojos you get senseis that show traditional ways of performing techniques, then when you do randori with them, they do the technique in an entirely different way, and you are left wondering why is nothing working for you, not realizing they are just doing something completely different. I don't know why Judo is like that. It almost feels like most teachers and competitors are trying to gatekeep the knowledge of the stuff that actually works. Sadly, I've learned more from RUclips videos from a couple of particular channels, and certain users on the Judo Reddit, than I did at my dojo. Judo is actually simple, it's a few key concepts and movements that work and apply to pretty much all techniques. The hard part is that you have to practice them for thousand of hours and thousand of repetitions, until the movements become second nature and you can do them in your sleep. The most difficult part of all though seems to be getting the right sensei to demonstrate, explain and instill those concepts in you. After that, it's just drilling and, probably most important of all, developing the athletic ability and endurance to perform all of those movements time after time during a randori round.
I don't think it is about gatekeeping at all. I have the impression that a lot of competitioners do the variant "that works" very intuitively and don't really reflect too much on how the technique changes from the base variant. So in their head they *are* doing the base variant they are showing to you. Also there is the problem that the competition variants often are not very clean when executed against a non-resisting opponent. And the changes might be very different depending on your physique and gameplan. So it is a "learn the base variant first, then change it in a way that it works". That said, I would also love if this approach would change in a way that gives beginners a faster sense of accomplishment. Especially positioning in randori is heavily underrated during teaching. In this sense it is a harsh opposite to the BJJ approach "position before submission".
The traditional ways works fine; at our dojo they demonstrate both, explain the benefits of each, and encourage you to do whichever fits you best. I have some issues that prevent me from performing it as demonstrated here, and have only ever used the traditional version. Despite that, its one of my best and most consistent throws.
The thing is : you're supposed to find your judo, the moves that work with you, your balance, your speed, the way you move, your flexibility... Teaching the traditionnal way gives you all the key informations to understand the move, then you adapt =) Aldo traditionnal moves are designed to be safe to execute. The O Soto Gari shown in the video seems effective and spectacular, but you're not supposed to attack your opponent's legg this way, with wrong timing you can injure his kney... + I don't know how it works in the US, but in France we have exams (katas) to pass in order to get black belt and next levels, and in thoses exams traditionnal forms have to be perfectly executed. So if you never learnt before...
First you learn "step pull turn throw." When you get better you think "Do uchi-mata". When you get even better you just think "attack". But the best throws, the ones that feel incredible, ALWAY end up in Ippon are the ones where you throw your opponent without even thinking about it, without telling your body to do it. It's like you are floating in slow motion and are brought back to live speed when you land on top of your opponent. You have to ask yourself, "What happened? What throw did I just do?" I have probably had less than 5 of those in my life - but there is no feeling like it!
I've been practicing Judo for 35 years. One of the best things about it is that there is a community that involves all ages and sizes. I'm 54. My hips are shot, and my knee is having problems. Still, I can practice with larger people at my dojo that will take my injuries into account when doing randori. We have kids/teens in the dojo too, so I can help them out, and still be involved.
Fun video Seth! Glad you got to try out Judo and see how cool it is. You should totally make a video like this for wrestling too! Whether it's American Folkstyle, freestyle or Greco
Seth did very well in this randori! Great work man. Austin cook is such a great judo coach. I loved having him on my podcast and also I’ve learned so much about judo from his IG
Without the first experience on the mat, you can believe you’re capable and stable, but a few moments with a Judoka will show you that is nonsense- you have to ‘feel’ that to appreciate Judo. Of all the directions I've taken throughout my life (running, swimming, long distance road bikes, gyms), Judo is without question the most physically demanding and mentally challenging/fascinating of them all. I'm very proud and humbled by what was accomplished in 8 years and wish I'd started earlier in life. Judo can be a philosophy of life as well- the friends made are the very best. Be careful- you may get hooked!
Most people who don't do judo and not fully educated in what Judo is underates the art. Judo is a complete art, strikes, joint locks, throws, ground work ect.
No way can’t wait for the comp video. I think judo really compliments and is complimented by other martial arts so I think someone as trained as yourself will do really well. 👏 great video
I had 9 years of judo as a kid, and now miss it very much. Gives you so much body fitness and mobility confidence. Never fear someone grabbing you, or pushing you, because you can probably put them on their ass in no time.
Been doing judo since I was 16. Now a green belt, and I really need someone my size to join because I’m the smallest dude in my class. I’m 5’8 and like 150-160 lbs
I did judo a long time ago, but the things you learn about breakfalls and how to not get thrown has really helped with my BJJ and also in other martials arts as well. Judo people have AMAZING sense of balance. It is something everyone should experience
When I did judo, there was much more to it than throws. The instructor didn't seem to care much about competitions though - he was more interested in how to use it to save yourself. Different times.
BJJ No Gi might be worth consideration. You‘re not grapping a Gi, so most grips are around ankles, wrists, necks and your own fingers which significantly reduces burn and doesn’t tear up your fingers nearly as much. I think. I‘m currently in my first year and while I had mat burns on my feet and toes and burns from skin on skin on my arms, my fingers have been spared so far.
Judo is my favorite sport and martial art. In my opinion it is the optimal training system, it keeps you fit & strong, it can be practiced safely at any age, randori and competition keep it grounded in reality, it has a rich history and culture of respect and honor, and I believe it would be useful in self defense if needed. So to me Judo is ideal. However I respect other people’s chosen arts as well. It’s most important to pick one that works for you and stick with it.
We couldn't clear our yellow belt until we were able to execute a series of rolls front roll, back roll, side roll, dive roll, And our drills included a set of drills that were purely about rolling. The other thing is if we didn't learn how to properly break fall we could not advance to yellow belt. But we were mixed martial arts. So it was more like you have to learn the basics of jujitsu because that's where most of our grapple lock and breaks were. There are some themes that are very similar between jujitsu and judo. Iquito becomes a lot more useful if you apply some of the rules of judo or apply some of the rules of Brazilian jujitsu. I'm not very familiar with Japanese jujitsu, so I'm not exactly sure what the differences and similarities are. If it kind of falls into that same wrestling judo, Brazilian jujitsu category. Then I guess that too, you could apply to aikido though and make it much more useful. Either way though the rolls the brake falls and the basic throws are your rudiments. And in our school, you can't get your yellow belt until you have all of the rudiments down pat. We used the ranking that I guess is currently applied to ninjutsu and so yellow is just a second rank. We had 9 ranks, so 9 belts. Each belt of course has two steps like everybody else. So just like everybody else wants to get your striped. That's one step between your current belt and your next belt. But sometimes we couldn't get new belts, so we would just used electrical tape. Size I'm watching this. It feels a little odd but I guess that's just because of the dojo that I was trained in. The roll drills seem automatic to me. The break fall drills also. We wouldn't even let you do any locks or any throws until you learn how to break fall reliably because we're not trying to hurt each other. I forget often that these are things that are not necessarily automatic in your typical karate dojo or another pure styles honestly.
i hope you enjoyed, i would like to give you a litle advice, its more enjoyable when you are relax, if you tense your body you won't feel able to do any techniques.
As he has trained martial arts he would know, anyone who has trained martial arts can see when people are going easy and when they have to put effort in
Really good conversation at the end of of the video during the sparring with Sensei - anyone watching can learn a lot from that. Judo is so under appreciated and I think is really good - especially for self-defense! Martial arts saved my life at 18 - they're a life blood to so many. Great video!
Did a bit of judo as a child, so fascinated to watch again through adult eyes. Am enjoying binge watching Seth's videos. But what I really want to say here is: fantastic music choice and editing in all these. Not just really apposite (and often amusing) selections, but perfect volume as well to be audible but not intrusive.
Why would you say it does not count in judo? If the throw is not perfect you have to be fast to pin down your opponent or choke/armbar him. It is very important to anybody going serious about judo competitions to be able to transition fast and efficiently from standing to ground
Hey, Sensei Seth, I wanted to say you and Sifu ED at Metrolina martial arts and my Sifu at the Chesapeake JKD academy in Virginia have inspired me to learn martial arts. I turn 34 in August, and I been learning Jeet Kune Do since September. JKD is improving my well-being and my conditioning. Thank you, Sensei Seth, for your wisdom and this video!
Shodan here - Starting at 13 i fell in love with this sport(Judo), now 33 I wish I cross trained jiujitsu with my judo to complete both standing and groundwork. With 20 years experience I welcome and suggest every BJJ/JJ to come do judo with a open mind and see the grass on the other side. and vice versa. We have a few jiujitsu guys that have come to our club and now have been here for 2 years doing both sports. Key thing to remember is rules of combat are different and to familiarize yourself with them to not mix the sports up but to take away the great wealth of knowledge our creators and grow together!
Thanks Seth, a very enjoyable vid, I have been practising Judo for 57 years in the UK (hopefully I will get the hang of it one day) You certainly picked a couple of quality Sensei's to train with. I will try the wide legged stance, stab style Osoto Gari at my next session.
You're probably bored of getting comments like this but here we go - having now done martial arts for near 20 years, this video has inspired me to try my hands at Judo. Before this, I only saw it at an Olympic level and thought it would be impossible. I thought that I was too old to learn or do anything new. Seeing you try it, struggle, but continue to do your best has shown me that it is possible. My first class is next week and I can't wait to get started with it.
Nice to see this - also nice to see it being taught by someone who knows what they're talking about (and uses the throws no longer allowed in competition.) Judo underrates itself, I think - especially in how much it charges. You can't generally make a living teaching judo. Most instructors end up paying to teach it. Also note - judo does have strikes, and weapons, and wrist locks, spine locks.... they're just not taught (and so many instructors don't know how to teach them - or even that they're there, given how long they haven't been taught.) If you do all of judo, there's really quite a lot there to learn.
Doing a controlled grab where you're not injuring your opponent in a tournament is very difficult because usually they're coming at you north of 50% like 70%. Someone coming at you that fast? With the intent to do some level of harm, your reflex is going to be to respond with the same speed that you're receiving. That is an incredible amount of skill.
Judo is a friend martial art of karate. Gigoro Kano was a noble and helped Funakoshi introduce karate in japan. Tis is the reason karatekas use a gi and the belt system. They know what karate is and respect your rank, even though its a different martial art. For getting a judo black belt though you need to score points in competition, that's probably why brown belts are a bit far from black belts in the game. I quitted judo cause I was getting prone to injury, it is somewhat temerary to be a judoka. Judo is a sport, and a tough one, but if your focus is self defense there are some things you need to pull out if it.
As someone who has tried all sorts of martial arts over the past 45 years, I find your videos and your attitude very entertaining. Thanks for your effort!
This was really great. I loved it. I am a Sandan (62 now and just try to stay active). It's so cool when you are thrown by someone really good and you're just like, wow, that was cool. Great video.
I started judo at 31, and never looked back. I totally understand what Austin said about obsession, I definitely found the thing for me. Glad you enjoyed it, Seth!
10:15 Ippon has to have 3 elements. Controll of your opponent, speed and your opponent landing on their back Half point (we call it Wazari) is lacking in speed or the back landing. So if you end up on the ground and then manage to roll the opponent within 2-3 seconds it's Wazari If your opponent lands on his elbows,or arms it's Wazari for you , if he lands on the side it's also a Wazari
As a previous sambo and judo player, I thought your old rankings were absurd. But now, it's so cool to see you going and training these arts yourself and finding out how amazing they are. I respect your humility, effort, and journey.
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Hey man, Whats the soundtracks name you used playing in the background when he held his speech towards the end? :3
I bet this would really help your sumo
Wow seth, you're editing skills, have really gotten good. That was such a good video. Everything that was said at the end flowed so beautifully with the song you chose, I was really sitting here reflecting lol. This video just made me want to be better 🙂
Jita Kyoei! 🔥🔥
Dude, you gotta have a mma match soon. Especially now that you have been through good deal of grappling aswell.
You have tried just about every martial art, you got top level talent in your friend circle. Why not put your allround skillset to the test?
I think you can do well, find someone of equal experience, or lower ;D just for fun.
A lot of the pro sumo wrestlers in Japan also were highly competitive high school and college judo athletes. Sensei Seth is just secretly trying to climb the sumo ladder while also giving us great youtube content
I would love to see him actually go to a stable in Japan. That might be asking a bit much though lol
Judo in Japan is like wrestling is in the states. Probably more popular if Inwant to be honest. Great post.
@@emperortime4380 It's crazy to think that, if Seth had actually won that final round, he'd have made a video of him competing in Tokyo.
After 6 MONTHS of training.
Nonetheless, I think visiting a stable could be a really good idea. Seth is a variety martial artist, but he's clearly more passionate about sumo than a lot of other styles he's tried. It would be so cool to see him go there.
U was 100 percent right look at his most recent vid ☠️
@@oba_reese1611 it's SumoSeth's world and we're just living in it!
My best buddy got me into Judo last year. My background is Muay Thai and BJJ, but Judo has really become more central to me now, since there are a lot of transferable skills in Judo to both, especially those linked to positioning, timing, and feeling a flow.
Also, Shintaro Higashi is just dope.
Seth did a video with Shintaro and Brian Glick where the two of them just bullied Seth. It was the funniest damn thing I've ever seen. In fact, I'm going to go watch it again!
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foot sweeps will be complimentary to your muay thai.
correct. Learning Judo compliments my positions while in a standing clinch. Transitioning from Muay Thai to Judo is pretty natural and puts you in a position to transition into wrestling
Shintaro 🤘🏼🤘🏼 muay thay and judô = golden clinch
Good to see Seth using some of that Sumo Training. Practicing these various martial arts are having a positive effect on your style!
came here to say exactly this, the dude is walking cyclopedia on martial arts by this point.
I imagine Sumo and Judo mesh well together. I remember reading somwhere Hoshoryu practiced Judo.
Seth looking like a beast, even with more experienced practitioners 👊
The problem is that staying with the sumo grip on the belt will get you penalized in a judo competition.
Oh really? That would explain why the judoka do not look more like sumotori ^^@@jdeveau6718
As a wrestler, I've always had mad respect for judo. When I was in college two of my fraternity were part of the judo club. I weighed around 325. he weighed around 400 and was 2nd degree blackbelt. One day I challenged him to a judo match in the front yard. He gave me a gi. In my 10 years of wrestling I've never been thrown like that in my life
A clean throw from a skilled player is an honor to participate in, even if you are the Uke.
@ktkt1825 in retrospect if we were going no gi i would have faired much better. The Grabs were foreign to me. On the other hand I imagine watching 700lbs of man flying in the air must have been entertaining for all
@@andrewverburg1805 Glad you survived! It depends- some players have done no-gi work, and the principles are the same. That must have been quite the show!
I had similar experience. I wrested in high school up till the 3rd year of college. Met a judoka, went a round, I was baffled as to how he could do a throw with significantly less effort than me. Judokas definitely emphasize more on the “perfect leverage” and feel for a throw before going for it. I started judo a couple of weeks after meeting him and it really helped my wrestling game.
@@mikaelnigel1 As a Judoka, I've been blessed with a few perfect throws- the very first (Orange) was a counter to O Soto Gari learned the week before on a 225lb very strong policeman (White)- without any effort, he floated up and landed flat on his back. It was amazing and beautiful!
This is very timely. After several years off from martial arts I just started Judo at my alma mater. I chose it because it is very close to my house and as an Alumnus, it is INCREDIBLY affordable compared to other places. I always thought low of Judo because their competitions remind me of Tae Kwon Do in that you throw, stop, reset, throw, stop, reset. Submission is VERY rare. Austin Powers also contributed to my opinion.
It is NO JOKE. Like other grappling arts, practice IS sparing. You get thrown and choked and you do it to your opponent from the first day. Additionally, unlike my experience with other arts, it is very logical and methodical. The reason you do every step is basically to fit your body into your opponent's body in such a way that throwing is almost easy (from a strength perspective). Hitting someone with the earth is a very fast way to end a fight. It also keeps you on your feet.
Huh? While we can't do standing chokes or armbars anymore any high level tournament has plenty of pins and submissions in ne waza.
Olympian tkd athletes are in insane shape and finish every practice with blood in their mouths.
I broke a rib in an adults tkd TRYOUT practice. Every contact sport is brutal on the body.
@@Petruscaceresok bro but none of that matters if you miss once and I get ahold of you
Don’t get me wrong there’s a few people who have made tkd work but they had to train other martial arts to even stand a chance and you could argue that they do kickboxing or Muay Thai implementing a few tkd kicks more than saying they do TKD with a bit of boxing
Yea they have a tkd base, which is why I think tkd deserves that recognition, but tkd is not effective at all the moment you add for example something as simple as low kicks or even taking a kick and closing into jab range
@@tearsintherain6311 I hear you bro. The rest of the question in my opinion is “made TKD work where?” TKD is made to work in TKD tournaments. MMA is designed to work in MMA tournaments. I won’t take it for air marshals training or personal development, it may work, but only in a limited fashion.
One of the things about watching Judo competitions.....they may seem a bit boring because by bblack belt level it's basically two experts playing a game of physical chess with each other.....put a black belt against a beginner and you'll see some excitement......
I have practiced TKD, BJJ, Boxing, Muay Thai and Judo and nothing comes closer when training judo. It was probably the most exhausting class I have tried and judokas are just simply beasts. I practiced for 5 months and then I dislocated my elbow during randori and never came back. But man, people really underestimate judo
How did the elbow dislocate?
@@leonardomarquesbelliniprobably tried to catch himself on a fall instead slapping the mat
I agree, and hope you return! One of my worst injuries came from resisting something that I should have let happen.
Randori is legit dude. After 2 rounds I need a break 😆
@@leonardomarquesbellini Tried an ippon into a guy that was at least 50% bigger than me, we both fall and he felt into my arm before I could even break the fall
I started judo at age 38, on the way I broke my leg, fingers, toes, shoulder, tore my abductor muscle, tore my ankle ligaments, but I persevered and got my black belt at aged 44. I am now aged 67, and playing Judo learned me a lot more than just a martial art, the camaraderie was second to none, there was a kind of spiritual ethos too, loved the journey and the self discipline, I am so glad I did it. I stopped training when I was about aged 47, because when I hit the mat, I no longer bounced, but broke and the older one gets, the healing takes so much longer. Giving up was a large wrench, but I didn’t want to be an arthritic old man, for there’s a time to come and a time to go.
I'm 31 and rather strong, but I want to get into martial arts but I've been wondering if it might be too late to get into something is hard impact as judo. Thanks for this.
since you've been in trenches to get your judo black belt, taking up bjj might be rewarding and much easier on your body. I say this because I remember training with an old white belt who was tough as nails. Look up "It's Never to late to be a savage" by Alberto Crane there's a mini video on him you might like.
It's not. I recently started training again after a break of 40 years - you'll love it but take it easy to start with and try and build up your flexibility and strength, a valuable tool for this would be what i use, a Bullworker, - I hope it goes well for you. Judo is a wonderful sport/art and 2nd to none for friendliness and sportsmanship - @@emmanuela7528
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I started Muay Thai at the age of 42. I have been doing it for about 9 months. You are never too old to learn new things. I say pick a martial art and go for it.
@@jericho2619 contact sports are good, but they do have a shelf life.
I started judo just over a year ago, as an extremely unfit complete beginner 39 year old. I'm now training three times a week and absolutely love it, even when I feel like I suck. I was partly inspired by Seth and other martial arts channels, so thank you for improving my life. The comment about finding your spark really rings true.
37 and struggling to get started. Thanks for the inspiration
Started BJJ at 37. Blue belt now after 2 years and having the time of my life!!
The oldest beginner in my dojo started at 55 years old 18 months ago. He had no prior background in martial arts. And recently took bronze at a local veterans tournament. It shows you're never too old to start training.
Started at 39, well basically 40. Getting thrown a lot, I'm only sad leg takedowns are not allowed in competition. Feels really good for a shorter fighter like me, like kata guruma. Also, in rondori being a beginner sucks since every other belt knows how to defend against basic moves like osotogari. So my idea is to start learning sequences ASAP.
@@kendallvlogz2686 With Sambo background from my teenage years I start Judo at 30 years. Now I'm 44 with black belt. Judo is excellent, some of my friends started Judo later and it's always fun. But it can be frustrating, mainly (in my case) because of physical limitations (lack of flexibility, previous knees injuries etc.) But my only regret is, I didn't start it when I was a kid.
"People either don't find it, or they choose the wrong thing, or they never look". Gentlemen, thank you for this video. It has made a difficult day a bit better. I am very happy that you tried judo Sensei Seth. I got into it after only doing striking arts and it was very eye-opening. Thank you for this video, if I ever meet you, I'm buying you a beer.
All the best.
In what ways was it eye-opening?
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Cardio brother. It is a whole other level of endurance, at least for me. And a whole new sphere of fighting as well
I think it might’ve been that Ramsey put it best for me: Judo is greco roman wrestling with a gi on and it changed my perspective of how dope it is (and yes there’s also some ground elements too)
Not really you can’t attack legs or subs in Greco
its a bit diff since you can use the legs to trip too but same idea
Some ground elements is an understatement.
The use of tension (because they have sleeve, lapel, and collar grips) create a different emphasis on how techniques are done.
You can do techniques like Ippon-seoi-nage from further away purely because you can rely on the sleeve/lapel grip.
You can really anchor someone down because you can get a grip on the gi.
Especially when grabbing the collar for breaking posture.
The big difference between Greco-Roman wrestling and Judo is *tension.*
@@AGuy-s5vWell, also judo doesn't have constant tension while GR does.
Listening to y'all talk about finding that one thing, that thing you're going to strive for, actually made me cry. I wish I'd found martial arts a long time ago, but I'm grateful I've found it now.
Bro i have never wanted you to get your butt whooped at a new martial art so bad lol. As someone who studied judo for 8 years I was surprised to see you had rated it so low. I'm glad that you got to experience judo, it really is a wonderful style/sport. I am grateful for the confidence that it gave me.
It is nice to watch this video. As a Judo Sensei, and with a Father with more than 40 years of Judo pratice (As a Yondan), we did enjoy the way you showed. My father is a Brown Belt at BJJ and Goju-ryu Karate as well. I do not know how it is in USA, but here at Brazil we are very tradicional about the Judogi, wich we stay using only the blue and white one to train. Usually the other colors of Judogi are not allowed in competition, and a BJJ or Karategi are way more diferent than the Judo ones, it can get some advantages when it pratices Judo.
Nice to see things through other eyes and a Karate Sensei.
Wish you the best things for you in your life.
"We can only get close to perfection when we search it with consistency, wisdom and above all, humility." - Jigoro Kano
I think judo is an underrated martial art. I did judo for such a long time and i can assure you its very effective and and its not too hard to learn.
Edit: I didn't say judo is easy to learn, I meant that compared to other martial arts, the basics of judo are easier to learn.
It def is, it birthed bjj and Sambo. But I think schools now have ruined it by watering it down. Making it more friendly for kids and safer for competition.
Tho I guess this goes for other martial arts that become Olympic
in my opinion I find the learning curve for Judo much steeper, the techniques take longer to master than other martial arts
I think it's underrated, but I am not sad that I left it for other stuff that includes punching though (especially after seeing judo knuckles the first time :P ).
It’s definitely hard to learn.
@@kennwinJudo hasn't been watered down "for kids", it's been watered down for the Olympics.
You and Jesse inspired me to take up karate at the age of 35. And a month in, it is the most fun I have had in years while working out/training. Walking around with a sprained ankle is the best after landing a headkick during kumite 😀
Got my Judo Black belt @ 40. When you fight 19 year olds at gradings, it makes you blow a bit!!
I did Judo when I was a young man, I was 13 years old throwing full grown men across the mat, and good to see that the format for training is the same but this was in the 90’s when people shelved it in favor of jiu-jitsu.. Good to see that people aren’t sleeping on it’s effectiveness anymore.
People slept on it's effectiveness? Where did you encounter that? From Wrestlers?
Bjj judo/wrestling and Muay Thai and you are the most effective killing machine
Judo is easiest to cross train with bjj tho
@@CanadianWolverine back then everyone was saying that Judo would just get your back taken once people saw cage fights. And the Judo federations seem to be antagonistic to MMA to their own detriment, so casuals aren't as exposed to it. Ronda Rousey was the only big name associated with it.
@@ChucksSEADnDEADKhabib also did Judo
FINALLY!!! Glad you enjoyed judo. One thing I learned from doing judo is that the staying balanced while being able moving around has helped me tremendously in my Muay Thai clinch game.
You are in good hands Seth!
I practiced Judo at Bushido Judo back in high school (Shout out to Sensei Stokes). 3 weeks after starting, I made a rookie mistake at my first tournament and hurt my foot (nothing fractured or broken thankfully). Noticing that I couldn't put weight on my foot, a 16-year old Austin Cook asked if I was okay and then wraps my foot in a compression bandage so I could put weight on it again. He's a world class Judoka, but also a genuinely good dude. It's no surprise that he became a doctor.
Also, Alex is my brother! I love that guy...even though he did _literally_ drag me to my first Judo class lol. He's the kindest person you'll ever meet.
"if you dont break the fall, the fall breaks you"
Sensei Seth, 30 September 2023
It is not October, bro.
It will be soon, but not when you wrote this.
That's true tho
sry mr grammer
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12:15 that was such a sick reversal he casually reverted a single leg into an armbar
The sumi gaeshi is a classic counter to the single leg(kuchiki taoshi)…we don’t see that since IJF banned leg grabs in 2010…but I remember back in my days (late 90s-early 2000’s) to practice it A LOT…and once the arm is there, why not go for the armbar?(juji gatami)…
Sacrifice throws to armbar were ubiquitous in judo back in the day… my go to was tomoe nage (sacrifice with foot in the hip) to armbar…
@@vitoravila9908sumi gaeshi is great
@@vitoravila9908I love Judo I wanna train it one day
Man your life is so cool. In the hospital recovering from a collosped lung and thought Seth will surely add to the day. And he added, laughter, education, and inspiration in just 16 minutes. Keep living the dream man
Dang dude rest up!!
Best wishes for getting well !
Get well. I hope you recover soon
i live in taiwan and I ride scooters as my main form of transportation and judo breakfalls has helped me out a lot. I did 2 years of judo here and think I still suck at it. and how did the instructor not tell you that you have a small amount of time to submit the opponent on the ground after a throw??? that's what Rhonda Rousey (and her mom) was all about. also, every single thing in BJJ that's not some modern sport guard was stolen (appropriated?) from judo. and if you're going to compete just learn a few common used combos like ouchi gari to kouchi gari, ippon seioinage to kouchi gari, etc. the "cheapest" way to ippon less experienced opponents is to tani otoshi off of their bad hip throws. be careful when using it though. edit: Austin Cook is a beast and I'm glad Sensei Seth trained with him. The US overall is pretty weak in terms of competitive judo and it was likely he would've found a judo gym that was more "casual".
IIRC BJJ came about when the Gracies focused on the ground game of the Judo they were taught and improved it through specialization.
I did judo in the 90’s when they didn’t stand you up unless you were getting nowhere on the ground. It was very much 50-50 back then and submissions were absolutely a thing. IJF is just murdering judo.
because it was a tachi-waza randori not newaza or both
They didn't improve anything. Judo already had ground specialists. Even stuff like de la riva guard was already present in Judo, it just wasn't popular. Obviously overtime due to the different rulesets, the average BJJ person had on average better ground game than the average judoka given the same time spent training.@@justas423
good point. They also banned leg grabs in order to differentiate between wrestling and encourage high amplitude throws. @@stickgarrote8582
Honestly an interesting take on osoto gari, usually we would start by detailing where we’d put our left foot but honestly I’m on board with the idea of just going for it with the reaping leg straight away. It’s quicker and emphasises a change of direction which actually adds to the effectiveness. 10/10 would throw again.
Nothing quite like getting tossed around by a high level judoka to make you say . . . "Ow!" To quote a modern day philosopher, Joe Rogan, "you're getting hit by the Earth." It certainly feels that way.
Lets not just glide by how smooth that sumi to armbar at 12:07 was, also if seth is in the white belt division he might dust them I think he has a legitimate shot at a gold there
There isn't usually a white belt division, it might be green and below, blue and below or Kyu and Dan separated
Hey Seth, it was great to meet you. You did an amazing job for your first time ever doing judo. Idk if you have a bjj (gi or nogi) video yet but if you'd like to make one I'd be happy to help.
I love the end of the video! Maybe this will be like Sumo, and if so, we'll be seeing a lot more Judo content in the near future.
I took Judo in college when I was 18 until my instructor joined the army. So I got one semester in. It was tough. More vigorous than other arts I had tried and I wrestled on the team in middle school in tournaments.
Learning how to fall was very useful for me as I was in a snowy environment, and everyone was wearing a coat.
I mixed in the basic throws with the Shotokan karate I knew and that was a good combination for me.
Combining your sumo AND Judo will be a great combo for you.
Karate and judo, sounds like sport ju-jutsu. Mma before it was mainstream
Shotacon karate?
Judo is so hard. I've trained for a good few years. It's interesting to see your perspective as someone who's done a lot of toher martial arts at how difficult, demanding and technical it is.
A small adjustment is the difference between a clean throw that feels easy and trying as hard as you can to force someone over and can't. As you train more you learn to move around a lot more and relax and not tighten up. Biggest newbie mistakes i find are holding your breath and tensing as hard as you can, and then probably not grip fighting. You learn how to manage your energy levels and not exhaust yourself. Your technique was really good though on the O Soto Gari.
THANK YOU SETH. judo is my fav martial art and the first i ever competed in, first time i ever submitted someone too! love this, and seeing you grow has been amazing. cant wait to watch you compete.
Thank you for giving Judo a shot! It takes a lot to be able to put your pride to the side and try something new. I hope that BJJ and Judo players alike can train both to further advance the future of grappling!
It's so amazing seeing your adventure with trying other martial arts. Great video, keep at it and thank you!
man ive always wanted to learn judo, just no places around here. youre livin the dream tryin all this stuff Seth!
Check out universities and large Olympic type gyms. It’s an Olympic sport so it’s very common in places connected to other sports like where there’s tracks, pools, etc they sometimes have judo too but might not be as advertised
I competed in Judo locally for 6 years as a youth, and the main thing that carried over was BALANCE.
Learning Muay Thai worked especially well in close-range situations and having the passive ability to stay standing.
Yep did judo for 13 years started boxing last year and started muay thai last month. I'll say whenever I've had an actual self defense situation due to judo usually all I've had to do is weather one blow and then once I've got a grip it's game over
Yeah man those clinches with judo knowledge is lethal 😅
The way Austin generates momentum is super impressive. Gotta study that.
I've been doing Judo now bout 2 years and I love it. A seriously underrated martial art
Finally... A real Judo episode! 🥋
This is the most watered down school ever though. The brown belts were fucking horrific
His O Soto Gari demonstration says it all................@@eliaskjrbo8142
That ending conversation with Austin had me tearing up. I'm on my own Judo journey at the moment while in University and I'm gonna be competing in a tournament in April. Austins words of encouragement were amazing. Love this video. Thank you Sensei Seth!
Love it. Judo is a tough martial art. I'm currently a blue belt and a 3stripe white belt in BJJ, hoping to be a double blue belt by the end of the year.
Great, go ahead!!
How long have you been doing both for, and how consistently do you train?
Judo, 2x a week for 8 years. BJJ on and off, 2 x a week for 7years + monthly seminars, I'm lucky to have a dojo that trains both, so the majority of bjj students still know some judo for our takedown game. @@lm10_dxz91
you fought like a sumo wrestler at the beggining, it sure made you not a real "novice"
that's better for viewers cause you gave all of them some degree of a challenge.
A real first day doing randori its just like a deer in a headlight
great content sensei!
I've done some judo, stopped for a while now, but it's been good watching you.
I know it's not your first time, but for a beginner you've done very well. Good falls, good instincts. The other guys had more experience than you but they weren't going as easy as I used to on beginners. Looking forward to your tourney, and no worries on the ranking ! As long as you're having fun :)
as a judoka I'm so excited about this video , can't wait to see the next one about this let's goooo
Maybe I’m imagining things, but while watching the Randori, Seth’s grappling looked like Sumo really helped him out, which if so is pretty dang cool
Judo had actually been my introduction into martial arts many, many years ago. And it still comes in handy 46 years later.
I believe sensei Seth gave a much better portrait of how an average judo randori looks like than Rokas' (martial arts journey) experience with Chadi (chadi).
Without belittling Chadi, maybe he was more cautious with an opponent without proper breakfall practice and did not really apply the big throws.
I think that's probably very accurate - Shintaro also made the observation that much of what Rokas was doing to avoid being thrown would get you penalized in competition Judo, which I believe was the focus of that school or at least that class; your opponent doesn't need to go out of the way to throw you if everything they do is making you Shido yourself - they'll win the match handily either way.
I don't know if this is a practice in Judo. But when we were learning our throws we also learned how to counter the throw or how to interrupt the throw. With shoulder throws, for example, you just place your hand between you and your opponent on their lower back and you push against their lower back. That way, you're pushing them out of the range of leverage necessary to throw you. Even with the little bump throws this would help. Learning how to interrupt a technique is very important in regards to reducing the amount of points your opponent, or sparring partner in this case, can get on you. It also gives you the ability to dictate when you do go to the ground.
I was pleasantly surprised by the O Soto Gari demonstration. They showed the proper, competition version of the throw that actually works, not the traditional one. If they do this for all techniques, then I'm sure a lot of competent beginners come out of this dojo at a very good level. I wish I would have a place like this near me. At most dojos you get senseis that show traditional ways of performing techniques, then when you do randori with them, they do the technique in an entirely different way, and you are left wondering why is nothing working for you, not realizing they are just doing something completely different. I don't know why Judo is like that. It almost feels like most teachers and competitors are trying to gatekeep the knowledge of the stuff that actually works.
Sadly, I've learned more from RUclips videos from a couple of particular channels, and certain users on the Judo Reddit, than I did at my dojo.
Judo is actually simple, it's a few key concepts and movements that work and apply to pretty much all techniques. The hard part is that you have to practice them for thousand of hours and thousand of repetitions, until the movements become second nature and you can do them in your sleep.
The most difficult part of all though seems to be getting the right sensei to demonstrate, explain and instill those concepts in you. After that, it's just drilling and, probably most important of all, developing the athletic ability and endurance to perform all of those movements time after time during a randori round.
I don't think it is about gatekeeping at all. I have the impression that a lot of competitioners do the variant "that works" very intuitively and don't really reflect too much on how the technique changes from the base variant. So in their head they *are* doing the base variant they are showing to you.
Also there is the problem that the competition variants often are not very clean when executed against a non-resisting opponent. And the changes might be very different depending on your physique and gameplan. So it is a "learn the base variant first, then change it in a way that it works".
That said, I would also love if this approach would change in a way that gives beginners a faster sense of accomplishment. Especially positioning in randori is heavily underrated during teaching. In this sense it is a harsh opposite to the BJJ approach "position before submission".
The traditional ways works fine; at our dojo they demonstrate both, explain the benefits of each, and encourage you to do whichever fits you best. I have some issues that prevent me from performing it as demonstrated here, and have only ever used the traditional version. Despite that, its one of my best and most consistent throws.
The thing is : you're supposed to find your judo, the moves that work with you, your balance, your speed, the way you move, your flexibility...
Teaching the traditionnal way gives you all the key informations to understand the move, then you adapt =)
Aldo traditionnal moves are designed to be safe to execute. The O Soto Gari shown in the video seems effective and spectacular, but you're not supposed to attack your opponent's legg this way, with wrong timing you can injure his kney...
+ I don't know how it works in the US, but in France we have exams (katas) to pass in order to get black belt and next levels, and in thoses exams traditionnal forms have to be perfectly executed. So if you never learnt before...
First you learn "step pull turn throw." When you get better you think "Do uchi-mata". When you get even better you just think "attack". But the best throws, the ones that feel incredible, ALWAY end up in Ippon are the ones where you throw your opponent without even thinking about it, without telling your body to do it. It's like you are floating in slow motion and are brought back to live speed when you land on top of your opponent. You have to ask yourself, "What happened? What throw did I just do?" I have probably had less than 5 of those in my life - but there is no feeling like it!
I've been practicing Judo for 35 years. One of the best things about it is that there is a community that involves all ages and sizes. I'm 54. My hips are shot, and my knee is having problems. Still, I can practice with larger people at my dojo that will take my injuries into account when doing randori. We have kids/teens in the dojo too, so I can help them out, and still be involved.
You must be like a judo ninja by now.
@@GuruishMike Nope. I'm tough, but have no talent for throws. I still love it though.
Yoooowww! That message about the tournament? I can't wait for it. For me, I think this is one of your best of all time videos. Keep it up!
You have no ideal how long I waited for you to get into both Judo and Sumo, and at last I can say FINALLY!
Judo is pure class.
I love the energy of this group..happy, helpful and friendly.
Fun video Seth! Glad you got to try out Judo and see how cool it is. You should totally make a video like this for wrestling too! Whether it's American Folkstyle, freestyle or Greco
Or catch or shoot
@@jacobharris954 Nah I wanna see him do actual straight up wrestling.
Seth did very well in this randori! Great work man. Austin cook is such a great judo coach. I loved having him on my podcast and also I’ve learned so much about judo from his IG
Lol love to see you tired on the warm ups. At my dojo it's a 30 minute intensive warmup/exercise. Really kills allot of people
Without the first experience on the mat, you can believe you’re capable and stable, but a few moments with a Judoka will show you that is nonsense- you have to ‘feel’ that to appreciate Judo. Of all the directions I've taken throughout my life (running, swimming, long distance road bikes, gyms), Judo is without question the most physically demanding and mentally challenging/fascinating of them all. I'm very proud and humbled by what was accomplished in 8 years and wish I'd started earlier in life. Judo can be a philosophy of life as well- the friends made are the very best. Be careful- you may get hooked!
Most people who don't do judo and not fully educated in what Judo is underates the art. Judo is a complete art, strikes, joint locks, throws, ground work ect.
Strikes are there but we do not really train them, the rest though it is very much true
No way can’t wait for the comp video. I think judo really compliments and is complimented by other martial arts so I think someone as trained as yourself will do really well. 👏 great video
Judo is no joke, I still remember that clip of a girl from a reality show or whatever slamming a bodyguard
15:19 ngl i really needed to hear that and that whole end portion was rlly nice
I've been waiting for this one.
2:07 you ask me, Judo is Water bending. The way you have to redirect and inmovilize the opponent, turning defense into offense
Best thing judo really taught me was how to fall safely.
as a very clumsy person I can say that learning that was a godsend XD ... saved me from braking my bones more than once
I had 9 years of judo as a kid, and now miss it very much. Gives you so much body fitness and mobility confidence.
Never fear someone grabbing you, or pushing you, because you can probably put them on their ass in no time.
Been doing judo since I was 16. Now a green belt, and I really need someone my size to join because I’m the smallest dude in my class. I’m 5’8 and like 150-160 lbs
I did judo a long time ago, but the things you learn about breakfalls and how to not get thrown has really helped with my BJJ and also in other martials arts as well. Judo people have AMAZING sense of balance. It is something everyone should experience
When I did judo, there was much more to it than throws. The instructor didn't seem to care much about competitions though - he was more interested in how to use it to save yourself. Different times.
Nah, just a different flavor of judo. Clubs like that are very much still around.
Exhausting, demanding, and fun is absolutely right. I'm so glad you're trying some more judo! Can't wait to see the tournament vid! 🤘💪🔥
I’d love to train judo but I make money playing guitar, so the finger damage really scares me. Same with BJJ.
Ye with Judo it's not a question of if it happens it's when it happens
Same
Wrap your fingers
BJJ No Gi might be worth consideration. You‘re not grapping a Gi, so most grips are around ankles, wrists, necks and your own fingers which significantly reduces burn and doesn’t tear up your fingers nearly as much. I think. I‘m currently in my first year and while I had mat burns on my feet and toes and burns from skin on skin on my arms, my fingers have been spared so far.
Judo is my favorite sport and martial art. In my opinion it is the optimal training system, it keeps you fit & strong, it can be practiced safely at any age, randori and competition keep it grounded in reality, it has a rich history and culture of respect and honor, and I believe it would be useful in self defense if needed. So to me Judo is ideal. However I respect other people’s chosen arts as well. It’s most important to pick one that works for you and stick with it.
Lets go seth and austin!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Yes sir! Glad to see this community coming together!
We couldn't clear our yellow belt until we were able to execute a series of rolls front roll, back roll, side roll, dive roll, And our drills included a set of drills that were purely about rolling. The other thing is if we didn't learn how to properly break fall we could not advance to yellow belt. But we were mixed martial arts. So it was more like you have to learn the basics of jujitsu because that's where most of our grapple lock and breaks were. There are some themes that are very similar between jujitsu and judo. Iquito becomes a lot more useful if you apply some of the rules of judo or apply some of the rules of Brazilian jujitsu. I'm not very familiar with Japanese jujitsu, so I'm not exactly sure what the differences and similarities are. If it kind of falls into that same wrestling judo, Brazilian jujitsu category. Then I guess that too, you could apply to aikido though and make it much more useful. Either way though the rolls the brake falls and the basic throws are your rudiments. And in our school, you can't get your yellow belt until you have all of the rudiments down pat. We used the ranking that I guess is currently applied to ninjutsu and so yellow is just a second rank. We had 9 ranks, so 9 belts. Each belt of course has two steps like everybody else. So just like everybody else wants to get your striped. That's one step between your current belt and your next belt. But sometimes we couldn't get new belts, so we would just used electrical tape. Size I'm watching this. It feels a little odd but I guess that's just because of the dojo that I was trained in. The roll drills seem automatic to me. The break fall drills also. We wouldn't even let you do any locks or any throws until you learn how to break fall reliably because we're not trying to hurt each other. I forget often that these are things that are not necessarily automatic in your typical karate dojo or another pure styles honestly.
Im literally going to start my first judo class on 3 days and you upload this... well lol thank you
i hope you enjoyed, i would like to give you a litle advice, its more enjoyable when you are relax, if you tense your body you won't feel able to do any techniques.
Great video, Seth! Props for trying judo full blast with an open mind. Really helps people appreciate the art more.
Bro I hope you realise they were only going about 10% on you.😂
As he has trained martial arts he would know, anyone who has trained martial arts can see when people are going easy and when they have to put effort in
Really good conversation at the end of of the video during the sparring with Sensei - anyone watching can learn a lot from that. Judo is so under appreciated and I think is really good - especially for self-defense!
Martial arts saved my life at 18 - they're a life blood to so many. Great video!
0:31 I don’t think you gonna C judo in C tier….
I was just looking for more Judo content, I’m stoked you dropped this
Just wait til next Saturday
Judo addicts unite!
Hello there
In recovery but thinking of relapsing
hello there
Did a bit of judo as a child, so fascinated to watch again through adult eyes. Am enjoying binge watching Seth's videos.
But what I really want to say here is: fantastic music choice and editing in all these. Not just really apposite (and often amusing) selections, but perfect volume as well to be audible but not intrusive.
looking forward to part 2
good tip for osotogari! i want the full class pls! that's not a traditional way of teaching it, is more a competitive technique
The points seem to do judo dirty. The genius of judo really comes out when used in brazillian judo when the position after the throw actually matters
It doesn't matter when you are on the concrete
everything in bjj thats not mma specific is from judo, its just practiced less
Why would you say it does not count in judo? If the throw is not perfect you have to be fast to pin down your opponent or choke/armbar him. It is very important to anybody going serious about judo competitions to be able to transition fast and efficiently from standing to ground
Hey, Sensei Seth, I wanted to say you and Sifu ED at Metrolina martial arts and my Sifu at the Chesapeake JKD academy in Virginia have inspired me to learn martial arts. I turn 34 in August, and I been learning Jeet Kune Do since September. JKD is improving my well-being and my conditioning. Thank you, Sensei Seth, for your wisdom and this video!
The part where you corrected the tier list warmed my heart and the speach with the champ was really motivating
Shodan here - Starting at 13 i fell in love with this sport(Judo), now 33 I wish I cross trained jiujitsu with my judo to complete both standing and groundwork. With 20 years experience I welcome and suggest every BJJ/JJ to come do judo with a open mind and see the grass on the other side. and vice versa. We have a few jiujitsu guys that have come to our club and now have been here for 2 years doing both sports. Key thing to remember is rules of combat are different and to familiarize yourself with them to not mix the sports up but to take away the great wealth of knowledge our creators and grow together!
Trained judo on and off for years. You've a good natural base for Judo Seth. The coaches are super nice guys! Good video.
Thanks Seth, a very enjoyable vid, I have been practising Judo for 57 years in the UK (hopefully I will get the hang of it one day) You certainly picked a couple of quality Sensei's to train with. I will try the wide legged stance, stab style Osoto Gari at my next session.
You're probably bored of getting comments like this but here we go - having now done martial arts for near 20 years, this video has inspired me to try my hands at Judo. Before this, I only saw it at an Olympic level and thought it would be impossible. I thought that I was too old to learn or do anything new. Seeing you try it, struggle, but continue to do your best has shown me that it is possible. My first class is next week and I can't wait to get started with it.
Hey, just curious, how did it go?
Nice to see this - also nice to see it being taught by someone who knows what they're talking about (and uses the throws no longer allowed in competition.)
Judo underrates itself, I think - especially in how much it charges. You can't generally make a living teaching judo. Most instructors end up paying to teach it.
Also note - judo does have strikes, and weapons, and wrist locks, spine locks.... they're just not taught (and so many instructors don't know how to teach them - or even that they're there, given how long they haven't been taught.)
If you do all of judo, there's really quite a lot there to learn.
Doing a controlled grab where you're not injuring your opponent in a tournament is very difficult because usually they're coming at you north of 50% like 70%. Someone coming at you that fast? With the intent to do some level of harm, your reflex is going to be to respond with the same speed that you're receiving. That is an incredible amount of skill.
Judo is a friend martial art of karate. Gigoro Kano was a noble and helped Funakoshi introduce karate in japan. Tis is the reason karatekas use a gi and the belt system. They know what karate is and respect your rank, even though its a different martial art. For getting a judo black belt though you need to score points in competition, that's probably why brown belts are a bit far from black belts in the game. I quitted judo cause I was getting prone to injury, it is somewhat temerary to be a judoka. Judo is a sport, and a tough one, but if your focus is self defense there are some things you need to pull out if it.
As someone who has tried all sorts of martial arts over the past 45 years, I find your videos and your attitude very entertaining. Thanks for your effort!
Thanks for introducing Judo! Just started recently and definitely underrated!
Thanks for visiting Triangle Jiu-Jitsu in Durham, Sensei Seth! Awesome meeting you!!
This was really great. I loved it. I am a Sandan (62 now and just try to stay active). It's so cool when you are thrown by someone really good and you're just like, wow, that was cool. Great video.
I started judo at 31, and never looked back. I totally understand what Austin said about obsession, I definitely found the thing for me. Glad you enjoyed it, Seth!
10:15 Ippon has to have 3 elements. Controll of your opponent, speed and your opponent landing on their back
Half point (we call it Wazari) is lacking in speed or the back landing.
So if you end up on the ground and then manage to roll the opponent within 2-3 seconds it's Wazari
If your opponent lands on his elbows,or arms it's Wazari for you , if he lands on the side it's also a Wazari
As a previous sambo and judo player, I thought your old rankings were absurd. But now, it's so cool to see you going and training these arts yourself and finding out how amazing they are. I respect your humility, effort, and journey.