Vz 58 vs AK 47
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024
- A little take-apart and comparison of these two classic launchers of the 7.62X39 round!
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the vz. 58 was constructed by ing. Cermak under the code name "koště" (broom) in Konstrukta Brno. My grandfather was the leader of the design team in these days :-)
Zbynek Babicka Da VC58 is better. Now I have another option to the galil ace I’ve been looking at. I don’t want to buy Heinz 57 parts guns or hyped custom guns. I just want a current factory produced from a reputable manufacturer.
That’s incredibly cool, I own a CSA vz-58 sporter and it’s by far my favourite rifle, the barrel made by lothar Walther in Germany is incredible
For real? I'm meeting Royalty.
Zbynek Babicka im also czech, but where tf can i meet him lol
That is awesome. I wish I had the mind of an engineer like your grandfather. I take a weapon apart and marvel at the minds that created it.
@tinslatee The cartridge is more than capable. The 7.63x39 has the power of a 30-30 and many hunters around the country use it for taking deer and other game. There are a number of good loads available for the 7.62x39 as well. The legalities of using the Vz.58 for hunting would vary from state to state, you would have to check your local laws.
Teaching by a hands on method is always more enlightening. Superb. I had no experience with the VZ 58 and learned a lot.
The VZ is SO light, Mags too.
I do like how nearly all the carbon mess is dumped between the gas block and forearm. Makes for a clean chamber. A little too many moving parts for the VZ, but a simple set up none the less.
I started with an AK and will stick with it, but right now for any guy getting into 7.62x39 platforms the VZ has the best deal. $400 for a rifle, sling, bayonet, mag pouch, cleaning kit and 5 mags.. Cant beat that deal. :)
To be fair though, the ak has a lot of parts to. Especially a full disassembly.
ZA_Survivalist, where did you find this deal...! :O
Crappy old rifle that was dropped and didnt even got fracton of AK popularity is somehow best deal... please dont fool yourself.
@@Alen725The vz58 is objectively better than the AK. More accurate because theres no giant hunk of metal with a dick moving back and forth causing the harmonics to shit themselves, light weight, same round, bolt hold open that works even when mag is removed(zastava tried but all that happens is bolt lock then drop when mag is removed so its pointless), sexy as fuck with that check grey and beaver barf, mags are lightweight as well, and the recoil impulse is much better than an AK. The reason for it not being as popular is because it wasn’t imported en masse to the US and it really only got super popular in Canada. It got dropped because the Czechs were smart and knew they needed to upgrade like the rest of the modern world instead of all the countries who try and fail to modernize an AK. But even if it wasn’t dropped modernizing the vz would not be hard at all especially with how light it is. So adding a bunch of tacticool shit would probably make it close to the weight of a normal unmodified AK.
Měl jsem obě zbraně, ale v trezoru mi zůstala jenom VZ 58...
Personally, although I LOVE the AK design, I believe the vZ.58 is better. If you don't agree, that's perfectly find; to each their own :) Both are thoroughly great and thoroughly proven firearms.
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It is not fine. Your oppinion is correct. End of story.
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Both have advantages and disadvantages over one another. Just a matter of preference.
Not only I disagree, you are fkin hilarious.
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I own both, and have to give it to the VZ, by far. Not taking away from the AK though. The VZ is just more "Handy" feeling. Lighter, (You notice the difference), a bit smaller, and to me, the recoil feels lighter....easy to get back on target. Both are fine firearms, but the VZ is really a sweetheart.
MrDavo1959 is it as powerful?
Vincent Alvarado do u own guns?
@@jonathankoulai494 ummmm...
Then buy proper AK instead of junk. How someone can say that recoil is lower on lighter gun. You are crazy.
Great video, it's good to see you doing more military arm reviews/videos.
I own both, and in my opinion, the VZ58 is vastly superior!
Why is that? Just curious.
It's insanely more accurate, much lighter, much less recoil.
Quick to shoulder, trigger crisp and clean, light recoil. Not a fan of the rear sight but, I'll change that on mine here in the near future.
Pete Hanton Yeah, that's the one thing I wanna fix on mine as well.
is your vz a csa?
Your videos are some of the most informative firearm videos on the net. Most people just shot off shooting their guns but you take the time to get right down to the nitty gritty and do things like this that no one else does so Kudos to you Mr. Hickok45.
VZ 58. Czechoslovakian classic. Light, smart, perfetct for all situations. I have one at home:-)
I realize this is dated 2011, but it is this style of video that "hickok45" does so well... he knows a bit of history and really likes the weapon and we can tell. I always feel the enthusiasm come through the video.
VZ 58 is very good,but in this video is the oldest version of VZ 58 !
lepší než Ak a řekl bych,že aji rozborka trvá kratší dobu...
Lukáš Szűcs Rozhodně lepší než BREN cz 805 to každopádně....
to těžko BREN jen nej. zbraň co zbrojovka udělala,jediné co je na něm horsí je to že je z plastu,je náchylný vůči počasí a složitý, už v žebříčku je mezi 1. desítkou nejlepších ÚT. PUŠEK!
Tomguls Hlado Nevím no, pro mě vždycky zůstane číslo jedna starý dobrý pádlo 58 :)
hmmm
That's a part of what makes you one of the more respected members of the youtube community. In spite of being so knowledgeable, having seen so much in your time, having so much blatant skill as well as experience, yet you're still modest and openly enjoy learning. Not ashamed to admit mistakes either. Life is truly a learning experience from beginning to end. A man who admits he knows nothing is closer to knowing everything than the man who boasts that he knows all. You have my respect. Cheers!!
@BigSlimmyD It's hard to measure reliability scientifically. With that being said, the Vz.58 is known for being a reliable rifle. Is it more reliable than the AK? Hard to say. There are so many variables. But if you own a Vz.58 that's properly made (Czech made) you'll find it to be a very reliable rifle.
Im my opinion the vz 58 is a little bit better, but not by much
@@alfie2891 the simplicity of the AK along with availability of parts is a definite pro for the AK and con for the Vz in comparison. For me anyways.
Got vz2008 that just crossed 8.5k rounds
And the internals look like someone took a Dremel to it but it still functions as that “cheap” green mountain barrel still 2moa-3moa at 100 yards.. solid.
Nowadays, reliability is a given. The M16A4 averages 5,000 rounds before a stoppage. To give you an idea of how reliable that is, original AK-47's have a stoppage once every 1,000 rounds.
great video. i love breaking down my guns and learning how they operate. it's the best way to get to know your guns and it brings a greater appreciation for the design. thanks for another quality video.
... rifle CZ vz. 58 is Czech hammer... It s the best gun in the world !
Agreed. There isnt a battle rifle I'd rather have than a vz58. Only the ignorant trolls say anything different.
@nikola poyukov you dont know anything about anything kiddo. Check your ego. Toolbag
@nikola poyukov Hush pussyboy
The Czech Republic, beautiful country and people. Their Weapons are phenomenal. And their military & security forces are amazing. Greetings from Arkansas, USA.
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"Hold your nose right." You and my dad must be of the same cloth. Nice video. I spent two years as a Mormon missionary in the Czech Republic and Slovakia and got to know the folks there pretty well. It makes sense to me completely why they wouldn't just adopt the AK. They wanted to make a better (subjective) design, but I think they also wanted to just piss in the Russians' morning coffee.
And we did it well :)
best guns on the world
Mormons in Czech? Well the world definitly turn to mad!
@skyhop, There IS an optic rail mount available for them. In the first video, I think I talked about how it had a red dot sight on it that I took off. It was on a rail that replaces the upper part of the forearm, the gas piston cover. Latches on quite nicely.
@jabagryz, Sorry, guess if I played video games more often, I'd know what guns I have. It's an AK-47
You by far do the best gun reviews over anybody. Thanks for the time you put in to educate your viewers.
There definetely are some muzzle brakes and flash suppressors for the VZ58 ;-) Theses rifles have a threaded barrel.
Thanks. You or somebody wrote me about that awhile back. I recalled that but the next time I took the rifle apart, I took a look at the carrier and could not see what part to use. I'll give it another look. :-)
:( sad day in Canada last week... the semi-auto CZ858's as they're called here became reclassified as a prohibited weapon (same class as full autos) and need to be handed in with no compensation for destruction because our gov't is idiotic.
they can't cite a single crime where any of these firearms were used to commit.
the swiss arms PE90 also got reclassified into the same category, so over 10,000 law abiding gun owners became criminals overnight!
The Tavor is probably next, time to stand up any canucks reading this ;)
Yeah I've heard about the Swiss Arms ban, it's not even about guns anymore, it's fucking ridiculous how they can just take your anything without compensation like that.
Well, it wasn't all the CZ858's, just the ones that were built off of remanufactured full auto receivers.
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Sorry, what do you mean?
That is fucked up. What about the actual vz58?
Dont give it up you guys cant take that sitting down!
Another fine explanation of how these things work so well, and why. Thanks for sharing!
Again Czech[oslovakia] gun. Again THX for video as Czech citizen, appreciate.
@jordub, Mine is an Arsenal. In general, I think AKs are less than ARs, but if you go with a higher grade of AK, such as the Arsenal, it's really about the same, I suppose, depending on which AR you're looking at.
czechnology tried and true...
@Hakken NR you are?
Díky
Hickok45, the only person on RUclips who can talk more than he shoots and still be interesting and not lose everyone's attention...
Chec weapons- the best in the world.
I thank you for your words of praise :-D. It warms my heart... but...
Please, dont use words Chec OK? You have already misplaced us for Chechina in your state News (that is if you are from USA), we are CZech, or Bohemians if you want to be really accurate.
Yeah and we are not Czechoslovakia anymore, for more than 20 years now.
Apologies, I live in South Africa. I definitely need to do more research on this topic. Either way when ever I see Cz weapons, I'm pleasantly prized at how well they are engineered.
Luke Pym
Thank you :-), our weapons are one of the last things we still have here :-D.
So Im really glad when I see they are able to make other people smile when they get them :-D.
Please dont take me wrong, I didnt mean to be a smartass, but it just makes you angry you know when they place you next to Afghanistan or Chechina :-D. The less incompetent at least refer to you as to Eastern-Europe (because they take it that whats after Germany is east owned by Russians, but in fact we are Central Europe :-D). And well... when you hear it everywhere you go... it kind of makes you angry over time :-D.
I fully understand where your coming from, I too get angry when people mistake my country for something else. I didn't know Chechina ever existed, which just just shows i have a lot to learn. We aren't taught much about the eastern world in school, our counties education being based on the west. But I'm am still eager to broaden my knowledge.
Luke Pym
Uhhh well yeah... we are beeing taught that world is not West and East :-D. And I really do not belong to the eastern part :-D. Im from Central Europe.
Amen on not being afraid to field strip your rifle! First thing I did when I bought my AK was field strip and re-assemble it multiple times to familiarize myself with the rifle.
Something about history of these weapons. Both are made from Sturmgewehr 44 (Stg-44), german ww2 assault rifle, first in the world in that time. Russians took this weapon and made their AK-47, czechs did the same and made their own weapon from it.. Many people think, that Vz. 58 is made from AK. But it's not true. They look similar, but that's all. So yes both are "sons" of Stg-44.
Kasurgis The receiver is completed different, the gas system is completely different, the take down is completely different, the rotating bolt lock up is completely different, and the trigger is completely different.
They are both firearms. That's about the end of the similarities.
"The neighbors are over there shooting,sounds like a muzzle-loader.Isn't that terrible?Should I call the police and complain about the noise?" Hickock, I love your sense of humor!
VZ58 looks like an updated SKS!!!!
Awesome!
+David Tiller The VZ 58 is based on the StG 44 not the SKS
Barrel, tappet rod and working mechanisms , except the striker fire mechanism look like and SKS to me! Own one myself and it's a hoot to shoot
Thanks for another great video. As a North Alabama Old Fogie, I really enjoy watching firearms videos produced by someone with common sense. I am sooo tired of the rantings of tactical mall ninjas! You, sir, are a class act. Keep up the good work.
Pán zapoměl ukázat,jak se páskuje zásobník bez vyjmutí ze zbraně.
Yeah, you are right friend.
He forgot to mention another pretty handy thing we added to our gun :-D.
You see there are such loading-bands made of mettal, for 10 rounds each.
You can fast reload this weapon without pulling out your magazine. Basicaly you can reload all your magazines through rifle directly from army supplies within few minutes. Notice, when you open the (how is it in english? It covers the chamber and it throws out empty cases out...) there are such two rails... and they are not here just to fit "that thing" back to its place, they function as a leads for those reloading-bands (like old mauser rifles had). You just place that loading-band on its place, press your thumb down and all 10 rounds will slip to your magazine.
Čau máš pravdu
@hickok45 never disappoints! I love learning about all different kinds of guns that i have never had the opportunity to touch or shoot. It's so cool seeing them being taken apart and put back together and kind of seeing how they work! Thanks and happy holidays Hickok!!
Got a VZ-58 from Czech Small Arms a few days ago, very well made rifle but I have to admit I'm not a fan of the M4 style stock, will probably buy some original bakelite furniture some day.
hey do you know if CSA ships individual orders directly to you or do they ship your order to a local dealer?
***** No idea, never ordered a part from CSA.
As an Australian with a weapons license this is so fascinating to me as unless our laws this may be some of the best most in depth firearms breakdown knowledge i may come across.
I wonder who those 55 guys might be?
AK guys
Altezza Ace I own an AK an liked it probably AR fan boys
Hickok is a great teacher, thats for sure.
I'd love to see more videos like this!
Vz = Vzor
eng Vzor = Type or model
Ok
Man, I remember when serving in Czech Army in 1994-1995, how terrible it was to press and pull this pin in winter with frozen fingers... And polishing that aluminum bolt ... man, neverending story... There were also time limits to put it all together and dismantling - like 20 secs to put it all together and 5 secs to dismantle... So you have a lot to practice, Hickok45! ;-)
Am i the only one who sees striking similarities inbetween the Vz-58 and an SKS? the internals are quite simmilar
Oh yeah, I think the true origin is to be found in STG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44)
Even better southpaw safety than the AK/AKM. Top-notch video as well, of course. Thanks, Hickok!
thats not an ak-47 that an ak-74
AnonVoluntaryist that and all the ammo is 7.62x39mm surplus shells. You can see it in the first few seconds of the video.
Do you know Russian AK-103 or Bulgarian SAM7?
no i dont, but its also in the video description.
ホークナイト hmmm no
...that's a truth...
You have fully vindicated yourself Hickok! Thanks! What an excellent video showing us just how different they really are (internally) As always, you're the man!!
Внешность украдена у АК!
мастер йода Уран за несколько миллиардов долларов украденный из Чехословакии
мастер йода АК украдена у StG 44!
Thanks Hickok45 all of your videos are very well done and informative.
Amazing that they look so much alike and yet operate so differently.
Very interesting design comparison.
All the times I couldn't remember how to reassemble a particular firearm I'd just gather up the whole mess and bring it to a local gunsmith who would show me exactly how I should hold my mouth right and the pieces would suddenly fit together like magic.
Hi, i have no experience with AK, but eight months with vz 58 (SA 58) in the mountains , from spring to winter, rain, snow, sun, heat or cold, daily few miles with this gun, without cleaning. But still fully working. Version in video we called "paddle" , we used lighter version with side folding buttstock. It was a good gun.
Very good detailed explanation of these two fire arms. Keep it up Greg.
great vid as always thanks hickok. i was watching another video and they were shooting a vz and had no idea what the differences were so thanks for doin the vid
A a gun newbie, I'd LOVE for you to take apart more things and show them to us!
Many including me have modified an AK74 style compensator for the larger diameter 7.62 round.
The AK74 compensator works very very well, today I shot about 60 rounds from prone position and the push was directly backwards towards my shoulder, no barrel rise at all.
When shooting quick doubles sidestep was more of a problem than barrel rise, I once took a battery-driven drill with small drill bits with me and adjusted the holes until that was eliminated too.
Hey Hickok, I have a vz58 with a 7.5" barrel up here in Canada ... I absolutely love it! Wanted to let you know that a better technique for removing the mag is to grab high on the mag with your left hand and use your left hand thumb to hit the mag release, you can rip the mag one handed that way
SA vz.58 Czech made assult rifle is the world's most reliable gun that fires the 7.62x39 cartrige. Extremely easy to take appart and maintain. The reason why the AK47 is more popular, is because during the Soviet era the Czechs were not allowed to export guns that surpassed the soviet rifles in every way. These guns don't jam even if extremely dirty, and are far more accurate then AK's.
Great video Hickock :)
Hickok45, you are Bob Ross with firearms.
That is pretty awesome.
That Vz 58 is a technological work of art.
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Boys: I HAVE SLEDGEHAMMER I AM THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD!
Man: Got my small sledgehammer, to use it if I need to.
The vz58 is a sweet gun it's milled and smooth and striker fired and nice trigger cause of that awesome gun I love it thanks Hickok
Man iv wanted an ak for years now and if i cant get my hands on one the vz looks like a good alternative.... And another great vid hickok, been subscribed since you started and you never fail
As far as I can tell, this is an amazing gun for a left handed person. The mag release is on the right (read: correct) side, the charging handle is on the right side, the safety is AR-like, and on the right side. It's perfect.
I agree both of these are great rifles, but let's not forget the grand daddy of both of them, so to speak - the SKS. I've felt for a long time that if the US had ever tried to downsize the Garand to handle an 8mm Kurz type round, the result might have been very much like the SKS. SKS, AK and Vz are an awesome trio.
Im really proud to our army industry....
Greetings from Czech Republic!
This video bring some memories... I served with the V version (folding stock) and 58 is the year this entered service. "Vz." stands for "Mk."
at 4:44 is this video the action cover (with springs attached, sorry don't know if thats the right name) is outside the set pin you can see at the back the pin not locking it in.. i had this problem when i first got my vz58 too, it would feel like it was in and the pin would comfortably lock. i took it to the range like that and started firing and almost had an accident. good to see that im not the only one who did this same thing. it is something i keep a close eye on now after cleaning or disassembling.
I love the layout and look of the AK- would love to own a VZ as well!
Thank you very much, it's true! VZ= Vzor ( Model ) , CZ= Česká Zbrojovka ( Czech Arms factory) ... CZ:vz.58
that VZ is put together rather well. looks like a good design. cool vid
Thanks for this vid, i've wanted to see a vz 58 apart for awhile now. Definately interesting! I was under the impression (for no real specific reason) that they were alittle less quality than an AK but seeing them apart shows they are just different set-ups.
@JAndersonIV, Yeah, I looked at the video, and with my "stream of consciousness" ( or maybe "stream of UNconsciousness") blabber, it sounds a little like I'm saying it uses the same round as the M1, whereas I'm actually reminding viewers who might not know that it DOES share the same round with the AK47 if I had not mentioned it yet.
I too have an NHM 91 and that gun is amazing. 1.5mm thick receiver is hard to beat.
absolutely! it does have an "Achilles heel" though. notice the penned ejector. mine broke and the ejector sits freely now, of course the firearm functions perfectly. the ejector is prone to slide out and get lost if a magazine isn't attached.
I enjoyed your non-shooting video Hickok and I look forward to your next! Thanks for sharing.
hikock45: The ramp in the back of the mag is for the LSBHO tab on the follower. I find the vz58 mags to be easier than the AK mags to change, provided you either get the extended/ambidextrous mag drop(aftermarket, steel) and/or get the 'early' trigger guard (doesnt have that annoying curley-que in the way of the mag drop). With these mods, you can drop the mag with your trigger finger. They also make an aftermarket bolt drop lever operated by trigger finger... make it as fast as an AR.
Wow! After being an avid ak fan for so long, I am highly impressed after seeing this.
I've handled them a lot and had a high respect for them, loved the balance, feel, sights, and general battery of arms with them... But this gives a whole new respect for how nice they are. I wish magazines were more common, and there was an AK optic mount rail on them though. If there was, it'd be perfect.
Hahaha. My grandpa had such great difficulty putting his Ruger Mark III back together that he needed to go to a local gun shop to do it. Those things are a pain to put together without help - my peace-loving (well, relatively speaking) dad is the only person I know who can assemble them without help.
The mag is shaped like that because the "bump" that runs along is a "finger" on the follower, and that pushes up on the bolt holdback when it is out of ammo. Ive fired both a chinese ak and a long barreled vz. (cz858) and the cz comes out on top.
Most of semi auto VZ-58 rifles for civilian market are modified VZ-58 army rifles. Some are said to be build from original, never used parts. Based on modification factory, rifle is branded as CZ (or VZ) - 858 (those are originals from Czech small arms factory in Uhersky Brod), Gazella-58 (manufactured in Poland i believe), Hermex, etc.. For US market, some has been fitted with diferent barell (to comply with local laws). Although it is definitly rifle firing 7.62x39 cartridge, its original name is "Samopal vzor 58" - that means Submachine gun mark 58.
Rifle is externaly close to AK as the AK is close to Stg44. Internal mechanisms are quite different, as seen in this vid. Notice wide ejection port that allows also filling empty magazine from ammo strip (cartridges are inserted on the strip, empty mag into rifle and then is strip inserted from top to opened ejection port and ammo is pushed down to the magazine - fast and simple.
There are also shorter mags (10rnds, 20rnds), standard is 30rnds and extended 40rnd. There also were 40rnd single use plastig magazines used by some Czechoslovac forces - those magazine were shipped to the unit already filled. There is also 75 rounds drum magazine avaliable.
Many 3rd party modifications including polymer stock, folding polymer stock, polymer handgrip, RIS front guard are avaliable (by FAB Defense company for example). Also rear cover (with springs) can be replaced with different styles including one with RIS on top. Scope mounted on this RIS is too far rear by my oppinion, but I have seen it to.
Rifle is extremly accurate (for 7.62x39). I had opportunity to shoot full auto version and it was also fairly accurate in bursts.
VZ-58 was succeded by CZ 805 Bren in Czech army - modern modular rifle for .223Rem, 7.62x39mm or 6.8Rem ammo. It is also avaliable in civilian semi auto version but prices are way different :(
Awesome video,been wanting a VZ for a long time. I love those semi oddball guns and there history and design is just neat. Great job,please do more breakdown videos!
Interesting video, I liked seeing the differences and similarities in the two.
1 Wild West Guns, the one that comes to mind I think is the Remington 1858. Everyone generally knows Colt six shooter. But in general the 1858 was considered the better gun.
When you broke down the VZ it looked sooo much like a Iver-Johnson carbine.
Thanks for the review.
Happy Holidays!
Both great looking weapons.
I'd love to see more cleaning and deconstructing, I love seeing how things work and operate.
i have to have this gun!!! It's to many limitations for NJ (i love folding stuck) , but i still must to have it ;)
It's reminds me back days, i was in Czechoslovakia army forces, and that gun was my best friend, never let me down ;)
Great video BTW.
hickok, to make it easier to remove the gas tube on your ak, all you got to do it turn the locking peice up, like your going to remove the tube, the bend it away from the gun so it wont be putting so much pressure on the sight block. i did it to mine. It also works on the safety if its to stiff.
I loved this video. i appreciate when you keep the explanations of the mechanisms basic for newbies like me. job well done
this sir, was a great video, I definitely enjoyed seeing the differences and now I would love to pick a vz-58 up! keep up the good videos
Czech weapons are known for their quality, that's for sure. On the other hand Soviet ones are known for working in extreme conditions. It would be extremely interesting to run a crash-test on both those and see which one would break first ))
Yes vz. 58 has been used in combat and actually is still in use. Czech Army using vz. 58 in missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, very often tuned with compensators, rail systems and red dots mounted. Previously it was used by Vietcong in 1960' for example. It's very handy lighweight rifle, I would go for it over AK anytime. But I'm personally using SKS 45 :-) Greetings from Brno, Czech Republic.
to shed some light on the protrusion on the back of the vz58 mags, here's a little lesson: 1. whether an AK holds the bolt open when out of ammo depends on whether you have a magazine with the bolt catch. 2. all vz 58's hold the bolt open when empty because ALL VZ58 (AND CLONES) HAVE A BOLT CATCH IN THE BACK OF THE MAGAZINE. REALLY THE GUN ITSELF HAS A BOLT CATCH, THE MAGS (ALL OF THEM) JUST PUSH THE INTEGRATED BOLT CATCH.
hey hickok, nice vid as usual.As for the mag release, the usual way is to activate the release with left hand thumb while you grab the empty mag out. Left handed shooter can activate it with index finger, right from the shooting position. Then knock the empty mag out with a full one, like on AK. You can also modify the release lever or get an ambidextrous one at vz58rifle eshop. Those are original Czech developed&made parts, not cheap knock-offs like elsewhere on the web.
Lovely Vz.58...When I was serving the Army duties,I had my lovely one,but with metal bending clutch,not wooden bar...and I serioulsy was able to shoot 400m machine gun nest...Very easy to clean...nice memories though..;-)
What country
@@syrynx22 bro what country u live in
I think it's hard to say which is better, but one thing is for sure both are pretty nice, dependable rifles. The VZ 58 has some nice aftermarket upgrades as well.
I just wanted to let you know that you singlehandedly convinced me to (plan to) get a Vz. 58.
@hickok45 The best thing about the VZ is, the russians tried to get every country in the warsaw pact to adopt the AK (great gun) but the czech's said screw you, and designed their own rifle...lol Took some serious guts to stand up to the Soviet Union at that time in history.
The VZ is a great little carbine and it truly holds its own with the AK.
Nice video.
Very true, I have a Vz 58, and it is fantastic. Great quality and very reliable.
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Hey Hickok45, love you videos, reviews, and demos! The only thing I would nit-pick about (and this is a very small critique) and this goes for anyone, is that any AK pattern rifle we get these days is an AKM or AK Modernized which have been made since about the early 1960s. While the AKM and more modern variants are based on the AK47 they have seen so many major and minor improvements it's definitely more appropriate to call them AKM's. But I also get more people are familiar with AK47 vs AKM.